ROLLOVER || 4x4 OFF ROAD RECOVERY - I didn't get everything right!

4x4 ROLLOVER OFF ROAD RECOVERY of an 80 series LandCruiser on our family holiday in the Victorian High Country, Australia. I talk about what I did right and wrong in the 4x4 recovery and talk through the complete recovery process with Robert Pepper. Subscribe to Robert's Channel here / @l2sfbc
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[@jonathanz4987]

Matt, you have earned a new level of respect from me. Most of us downplay mistakes, blame the terrain, and generally hide any emotions we feel. There are so many lessons to learn. Thanks for talking about the human side of accidents. Thank your son and Robert too. Arizona Desert, USA

[@MadMatt4WD]

My pleasure. Thank you

[@lankanrover8911]

Hear, hear

[@jeffrey7002]

In my experience the last person in a convoy has to drive the fastest to keep up, so i think an inexpirent driver should be in the middle.

[@MadMatt4WD]

RE: Convoy order valid point- Most of the time I had Rod, my mate with vast experience, at the tail of the convoy. I thought I would give my son some experience there and it also put a winch at the back of the convoy. Maybe that was not a wise discussion, in hind sight! Thanks for your comments :)

[@jeffrey7002]

@@MadMatt4WD everyone has to practice and on a easy road, normally it shouldn't be a problem, biggest thing is that nobody is hurt👍 keep up the good work. Greetings from the Netherlands

[@rbrdly]

When we have motorbike shenanigans, we do something called CORNER MARKING. Any change in direction, you wait until the next guy can see you turn, then you proceed. TEC basically never stops and there is NO pressure for anyone to catch up as they're never left behind. In fact, the TEC could ride the slowest. If everyone can see the next guy at critical points, it's impossible to get lost. You can apply it to 4wding, cycling, skating, anything... and take the pressure off.

[@Malc664]

@@rbrdly That's common sense really, I'm surprised they didn't do that. The young fella learned the hard way.

[@ninaandbob]

First off, good on your son for wearing a seatbelt, which is one of my biggest bugbears in off road driving. And secondly, good on you for accessing the situation on arrival before heading in to assist you boy. Coming from years of rescue and recovery work we occasionally see the rescuer or first on scene become part of the casualty list. So assessment is one of the first things we are taught. Your boys reassurance on the radio that he was okay was a good call. Thanks for the walk-though. We learn form EVERY rescue and recovery by debriefing and running through it when things calm down. Love your emotional honesty.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks man!

[@OverlandPNW]

Probably the best recovery instructional video on KZbin right now. Real world experience, working with environmental conditions, using the tools available and good decision making in real time...that's the best teacher you'll ever have. Thanks for sharing this. Very glad everyone is ok !

[@MadMatt4WD]

Glad it was helpful!

[@B4UClose]

A smart man learns from his experience. A TRULY smart man learns from other people's experience. Thanks for the opportunity to be truly smart.

[@MadMatt4WD]

I like that. My pleasure

[@andrefischer5025]

Great video Matt! Addressing the “helper” situation is so important. This is not only for recovery, also when people offer help for spotting. Two situations that stick in my memory are one where I was driving over the rocks at cable beach which needed some 100% wheel placement, it didn’t take long to attract a crowd. All I needed was a 2nd pair of eyes outside to tell me where my wheels are. Everyone there was trying to tell me how to drive. Saying “no, thank you” was really difficult. The other situation was at Lorella Springs where some unexpected rain had turned a track out to the ocean into a muddy nightmare. Everyone on it had turned around to go back to the homestead and I came across a group being unable to get back up a hill. Given the setup, experience and training I have I knew I can just drive around this group.i walked up to the lead vehicle and offered my assistance, what I realised there was they had no one in charge. At that point I just told them what I will do, which was - I drive around you, go about 10m straight into the scrub and pull you up one by one with my rear winch. Plan established & executed. By then it was dark and we had about 40km of under water muddy track to negotiate to get back to the homestead. Whilst I knew there’s no real challenge ahead anymore I looked at the group (4 families with kids) and knew water over the track is going to cause mental difficulties on the way back. By now we knew each others names and had the radios on the same channel, it was a no brainer to just guide them back with calm advice over the radio. We all camped together that night and the wifes were telling me that they’ve never seen their hubbies just following a strangers “orders” without any resistance before, asking me how I did that. The thing is I’d really like to know for myself, I have no idea. All I knew at the time was that I know how to get them out and they don’t, the rest was kind of auto pilot. There’s a lot of technical howto do xyz out there, but the mental situation and group dynamics is so important. Like you had someone drive to town get burgers, it’s so important. Have someone telling you to have a break. Someone entertains the kids 200m away, etc…. There’s a lot more than winch power and rigging to a recovery.

[@MadMatt4WD]

What a fantastic story. Thanks for sharing.

[@usvcrescuecrew9563]

No need to be embarrassed. The most experienced folks get into precarious situations and accidents happen. That's why they call them accidents. Heads up to him rebuilding this one or building another. We love your videos and so glad he came out unhurt.

[@darkside_adventures]

I'm glad the boy was safe and you done extremely well in this situation I found this video informative and constructive

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks so much!

[@TimsBitsnPieces]

Matt, I have worked for a few tow truck companies in the past both here in Vic and QLD and from what I have seen so far in this video at 27mins you were quite challenged with only one vehicle having a winch but you did what you could and did quite a good job of it. Now at the end of the video, it is a great learning video for others to see what you did, how you did it, and the methods and also options you show how it could have been changed or done differently. I'm glad your son was not hurt and that you both decided to show this as this could help others in the future to learn from this. Not everyone would say when things go wrong and even show what they did to fix or resolve the issue, most YT channels just show the good stuff and I commend you for this, and validates why I watch and follow your channel and have done so for quite a while now. I am interested to see what you find out later as you do a body swap what happened to the Trans oil.. very weird indeed. The only thing I would have done differently is trying to pull the vehicle up on an angle giving your vehicle with the winch more of a rear or front pull on a slighter less aggressive angle against a straight upward pull and also giving you more area to use and work with. Otherwise, I think you did quite well with what you had to use.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks Tim. It means a lot to have a professional encourage me like you have. Thanks for the support of my channel.

[@Wayne-Kerr_Rudy-Zarzoff]

The young fella straight up owning it speaks volumes and very rare these days. Hes no doubt had a good teacher and influence. Big thumbs up

[@nickjayawick610]

Thanks for introducing Robert pepper as a 4wdriver for over 25 years there is always something to learn from you guys I rather learn how not to break a cv than how to break a cv like some other 4WD shows

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks

[@fifiandmax]

Valuable episode in several ways, cheers

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks. Glad to help

[@stevegoodwin5841]

Some great lessons to be learnt. I would of engaged a towing company to recover myself due to the terrain but you guys did a great job. You had a plan and achieved objective so you had a successful plan you executed. Things can be done better in hindsight but that is after the fact. Well done to all I say and thanks for the learning lessons presented so well.

[@bentnbuckled2487]

“The rest of it is stuffed” 🤣🤣 love the banter with the boys! Shows a great relationship. Well done, given the availability of gear and the mental stress I don’t think anyone would’ve done any better. In fact I think you were very level headed. Well done! And Jessie, we’ve all made mistakes, some simple with big consequences and some big with little consequences, that’s wheeling! Proud of you for allowing it to be shared and I look forward to the next build! 👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks Thomas! He is a great guy, both my boys are.

[@tennesseethompson5287]

Matt, first off & most importantly is that your son is ok! 👍 All recoveries make you think about various options & when it’s Your own son this naturally will add in unwanted stress to the situation no matter how experienced you are. I recovered a Patrol, that had rolled over in the Vic high country near Dargo too & the memories came flooding back. At the end of the day, you did recover the 80 & got it back on its wheels & back on the road, I’m not commenting on the procedure at all. The only thing that I will add is that in my kit to recover the Patrol, I was lucky to be able to use a Turfor to right the vehicle, I couldn’t get an electric winch near it - (long story) just my 2 bobs worth is take as much recovery gear as you can & all your 4wd party with you, you just never know when you need it, anyway Matt huge respect from me to you! So glad everyone is ok, including the 80! Love & respect, keep on wheeling Matt & family, great learnings, great discussion!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks mate. Although I agree about the tirfor they’re such a heavy bit of kit to use once every 10 years.

[@peterellis6065]

It must be a huge relief when you heard your son was OKAY, but then all the questions come into the head, and sometimes we forget that the other person doesn’t have all our knowledge. When you lean to ride a bike you fall off, skin your knees etc, same as when you learn to drive, only the mistakes are bigger, but hey the school of hard knocks is a tough teacher but a lesson learnt will never be forgotten. I slide off a gravel road in a corner just after I got my licence, not much damage but taught me to be a lot more careful with the right foot and to also look at the surface of the road as well. I guess now your son will be reading the road surface and being more attentive to all the conditions around him. Any experience you can walk away from is positive and you and your son have just made this experience very positive indeed for the whole of the 4WD community. Just be thankful that it was not in N.Z. As over there they sometimes (not always) use small river rocks on the road and its just like driving on marbles! I wondered why the hire car was going straight no matter what i did irrespective of the speed 😳. You made a bad situation into a very positive one, well done 👍 Nobody knows everything, we can all learn something. Thanks for sharing

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks. The road surface sounds very similar to your description "just like driving on marbles!" Mrs MadMatt slide on it with her boots on and that is probably why I slide down the hill and go the graze I mention.

[@thepaddockengineer]

Yeah, not quite the same but i had the arse of my car slide out on top of a hill on a gravel road near home soon after getting my licence and i nearly needed a new seat covers and it taught me to be more careful, particularly on gravel corners. (It wasnt even a big slide but between really not expecting it, not being able to see if there was anyone coming over the hill and it being a semi-notorious section of road, it really spooked me.)

[@ssravernal4185]

Mat, I have been watching your channel a long time and you are always about safety. When everything goes right you sometimes don't remember much of the trip.Sometimes things go wrong

[@ssravernal4185]

But you can learn so much from the experience. I think you handled it well and did a good job on the recovery.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks for your support.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Your son took responsibility most kids nowadays would blame it on the road or something else Good ON the young Chap for Taking responsibility and good on you Matt for keeping from yelling at him mate

[@NoFixedDestinationAu]

Thanks for sharing Matt, glad everyone is ok and I learnt a few important-tips, unfortunately from your misfortune, but appreciated you making this available. Looking forward to another build series. Cheers. .

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Glad your son is Okay Matt Always a way to learn from Mistakes we are all human we all make mistakes

[@jondukamp3059]

Thanks Matt for your very honest and humble approach to this video. So pleased no one was injured. I was reliving a similar experience I had with my son in his 80. I had all of the same mixed emotions but understood that he knew what he did and didn’t need a lecture. It’s a father’s worst nightmare so see a vehicle upside down with your children in it. He was driving last in a convoy of 4... I wonder if we need to put new drivers in the middle?? Just a thought. Love your channel and your thought process. You obviously had a few bottles of relaxant back at camp 😆 Doing a great job with your family too, love to see the respect. Cheers.

[@MadMatt4WD]

oh thank you so much for your kind words. RE: Convoy order valid point- Most of the time I had Rod, my mate with vast experience, at the tail of the convoy. I thought I would give my son some experience there and it also put a winch at the back of the convoy. Maybe that was not a wise discussion, in hind sight! Thanks for your comments much appreciated.

[@robertwilson1827]

Need to play all positions on the footy field sometime!? ✔️✔️✔️ Thanks for the lesson.

[@scrotumguts5139]

Out of all this from one father to another you are an awesome dad. Great memories are made in the bush with family and friends and how we control our emotions when it all goes arse up is what last forever and you did a great job there.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks kindly. We all try our best ay.

[@marktyler9464]

best video on real life 4x4 recovery i've ever seen. No body injured during the recovery, vehicle safe , good outcome. we can all learn from our mistakes , it takes a real man to admit to them. I am sure I would have made many more than you. hope it all works out ok.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks mate!

[@v26224]

This is the most dangerous recovery I have been involved in. I am very thankful for you letting us learn in this stressful situation.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks for your comment. Cheers!

[@bendgeddes]

The emotions involved aren’t often mentioned in these situation (perhaps except fear and panic). In my experience they can be overwhelming. This can make the immediate recovery dangerous. Great video Matt. 👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

Agree Ben

[@noelaird3273]

Matt I just want to thankyou and commend you for not bashing young drivers. Age DOES NOT make knowledge and experience. We all make bad choice's even experienced people, but it's only a mistake if you do it twice. My hat goes off to your lad for owning it and hopefully learning from it plus helping to make some great content🤠👍👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks Noel. Jesse has certainly learned from it and has been driving very since this incedent.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Here I talk about what I did right and wrong in the 4x4 recovery and talk through the complete recovery process with Robert Pepper. One comment that has been brought up a lot and valid is re: position in convoy. Most of the time I had Rod, my mate with vast experience, at the tail of the convoy. I thought I would give my son some experience there and it also put a winch at the back of the convoy. I take the comment on the chin as maybe that was not a wise decision , in hind sight! Subscribe to Robert's Channel here kzbin.info/door/MszYFGrHDh4myHOnYentew

[@timokuivalainen7046]

Well done on the recovery and thank god nobody got hurt.. Young fella has an experienced lesson learnt and will also be a better driver ❤️

[@Mr105.]

Bloody top stuff Matt. Good to meet you today. My young bloke said your Cruiser looks even better in real life. 👍👍👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

That was a spin out that you saw us. We got home safe.

[@Mr105.]

@@MadMatt4WD Looking forward to the next build.👍👍👍

[@TristanNicolas]

That was very insightful: thanks for being so transparent and open to critiques so we can all learn.

[@MadMatt4WD]

You are so welcome! :)

[@andrewangeloni]

Thank you for sharing Matt Glad everyone is ok . Great video that has brought some memories and feelings back of similar situation. I know you were under an enormous amount of pressure and handle it to your best ability. You did a great job. Your a great Dad and I’m sure your sons appreciate every thing about you . It’s good to see others stop and offer there help. Keep up the good work matey Cheers Andrew

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks. Absolutely it was great to have help! Sorry to hear about your experience.

[@cooperken11]

Just a thought on getting over the last rock the 80 got stuck on. I’ve used my spare wheel under the cable to get lift to remove tree stumps, Malcolm Douglas showed it once. The wheel just sits up vertically like it does on the car and the cable sits on the tyre and it rolls as you winch. I actually had mine set up with a snatch block so double line the Rope rubbed a bit instead of actually rolling with the tire but it still works really well and gave a really good lift and still amazes me that it didn’t just flop over sideways and collapse. Thanks for sharing such a terrible situation with us and showing what wonderful respect your children have to you and also you to your children, well done, awesome video. looking forward to the next one hopefully not as traumatic as this one.

[@MadMatt4WD]

I love this idea. Now you mention it I have seen it before.

[@davidleadford6511]

We all have to start somewhere. We were all new at this at one time. I'm just starting out myself, and I value videos like this. A post trip debriefing like this is a good thing.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Bang on correct. That’s why I decided to do this video to help

[@bvward]

Humble mistakes make the man... I know nothing about recovery, so this was very enlightening. I do hope you opted for cheese on your burger, though. The outro makes me hum the tune "If I had a hammer, I'd hammer in the morning..." Thanks for the sobering presentation and Mr. Pepper's commentary.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks for the encouragement! Beetroot is one of my favs on burgers hahah. Hope that song doesn't circle in your head ALL day :)

[@jessegillan7013]

Such a sad but informative video. You’re a great role model to us all!

[@MadMatt4WD]

I appreciate that!

[@laurentoth]

You're awesome Jessie! Well done on letting others learn from this experience. Sooooo glad there were no injuries 🙌

[@tonydam4270]

One thing i will say, Thankyou, not just for making awesome videos but for being so open and honest. I really do applaud you for being a human in your clips. We all stuff up every once and a while but you got to take the positives out of the situation. 1 Your family is ok. 2 You can't kill a landcruiser. Keep up the great work Matt.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks Tony

[@mhe8545]

I have learned so much from your videos. I am new to off-road and am sure I will make mistakes. Love your storytelling. The first part of learning is admitting one made a mistake.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks 👍

[@warp2288]

Seat belts are awesome. Good job Mat's son, it saved your life mate.

[@eddiemoore5633]

Brake feathering is a great skill too. Find a safe road, and practice with the young fella. I am currently teaching my 15 year old son. Glad no one was injured

[@MadMatt4WD]

Doing that this weekend on a skid pan.

[@bkrgi]

@@MadMatt4WD Also work on eye control, as in look where you want to go not at what your going to hit or in this case looking over the embankment which likely ?? contributed to the whole situation. It is really really hard to over come especially when things go sideways.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Where we looked was one of the keys they taught us. Go to my fb page for a vid of the 105 in full drift mode.

[@huntingarete9214]

Magnificent effort and video Matt. I have been in two recoveries in the past that have not been as bad as your initially, but plenty of potential to become very bad if the recovery went wrong. What I and others learnt from it was that the best way to remove the stress, and emotion from it, was to have one of the third parties, IE not family and not involved with the incident, coordinate and or lead the recovery. This does come with the caveat of being able to implicitly trust the 'leader'. Keep up the great work and awesome to see you involve a third 'neutral' party in the commentary and review.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Sounds like good advise. Unfortunately at the scene it was just me and Rod with the experience! Actually he told me later he stayed a lot longer than I realised. He was helping with traffic control and keeping an eye on me! He is such a good mate..

[@aussiequest9543]

Thank you for sharing such an emotional experience. The stress you would have been feeling as a father would have been extreme, and then to have to recover the vehicle. I praise you, your son and al those involved.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thank you for taking the time to say that. I appreciate it!

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Great video Showing the bad and the good always helps others try to advance there skills so they hopefully don't need to do a recovery like this but if they do they will know how to do it safely

[@gregwendt7172]

We were all rookies, once upon a time. I’m not a rookie in performance driving but in 4 wheeling, I just bought my first vehicle. It’s a 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport which is pretty well outfitted already. It still needs rehearing, long arm front (to start) and some misc reinforcing. Thank you for humbly made, informative video. I’m glad I subscribed and look forward to more. Greg

[@MadMatt4WD]

Sounds like your about to have fun.

[@gregwendt7172]

Gently, at first.

[@jwat2396]

Feelings lie to us quite often. Case in point your feeling of embarrassment with no reason for it. Your feeling of anger that was exaggerated by the lack of complete information concerning the situation. But what makes us a good human is collecting these emotions or feelings as it were and evaluating them before we react to them. I appreciate that in you. I have issues with that and have for most of my life so I appreciate those that have grasped that and use it constructively. You're a good dad and it sounds like you've raised a good son. Glad he's ok. Keep up the good work!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks kindly for the encouragement.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Great video ON the recovery not alot of people realize how much the fatigue sets in when your in a very hot climate especially like Australia even Were in Live in arizona

[@squatch2461]

Good on you and your son for sharing this. Sucks to be human sometimes.

[@MadMatt4WD]

It’s part of the adventure.

[@jaredbabic9928]

Its always good to see this side of 4wding. Everyone who goes on a trip should at least have a basic knowledge of performing a recovery. This vid will help a lot of people👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks. I hope so!

[@lronpaw]

thanks for going to the effort and sharing this experience with such a detailed breakdown of events and emotions Matt. Your son now has experience a lot of people don't have and while expensive, he came out unscathed (apart from his pride) so props to him. I've learnt a heap from this video and I think it highlights the need for someone to take the lead making sure your human resources are working. keep hydrated, observe effort spent and ensure people are not left to neglect themselves. when youre in charge of a situation you often neglect your own needs. thanks again.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks. I don't know who it was but someone was handing me water through the recovery. I was so grateful for that!

[@1967kap]

Hi Matt As a farther of a son that also wheels a 4x4 , I think you should be very proud of yourself for the way you handled yourself in a horrible situation . And just as proud of this video well done mate!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Cheers

[@DKingXJ]

First off, FANTASTIC job as Dad which was your most important job that day. That's a day your son will always remember and it will be a positive learning experience. It could have been the day he quit wheeling because of a negative reaction on your part so kudos for keeping your calm and having presence of mind to think of your sons feelings in the moment. As far as the mechanical aspects of the recovery I thought you did a great job given the circumstances and environment (confines of the roadway, steepness of the bank etc). It takes a big person to admit making a mistake and even more so to allow the world to critique it so congrats to your son for having the balls to man up and allow others to learn from this. Enjoyed the video, really glad your son wasn't hurt.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks for the kind words.

[@offthetrack4x4]

Great video and great job putting it out for all to see, comment on and learn from, well done. Glad no one was hurt and you all continued your holiday too! We’ve been through the rollover dramas with a mate on one of our trips and it’s not fun, but if you have the right people in the right headspace doing the recovery it can all work out well. Will definitely be sharing this one on our page, lots of interesting and useful info to gain from this

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks 👍 Always appreciate your support!

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Very nice way the young lads Went about giving there help 👏

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes it was

[@SirLuisBarrera]

My outmost respect for the way you handled the whole incident. Being quite active in social media this is one of my biggest fears. Having an accident . Accidents can happen to anyone, and people are very quick to judge. I don't know you personally but I admire you already mate. An example to follow. 🤜

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks for those very kind words.

[@nathan100tz]

I respect you more with every video I watch, I'm so grateful for you and grateful that you choose to share everything you do.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Cheers mate.

[@fedvoxavoxa]

Hey matt this was full on, i wrote off my first 4wd on a sharp bend in the wet after 1 month of owning it too... sometimes as yung boys we need a lesson. That was mine and thats his, well done to him and you in sharing this experience with us all as our beautiful passion of 4wd and touring is not always a happy fun holiday. Most of us have invested lots of money and swet in our rigs and they are not just toys that we play with as others might think. I have to say that the recovery for me looked flawless, there are endless ways to get the job done and you did it safe quick and simple, and thats for sure very valuable in a 40kmh road. Again well done and I am sure that your family will only be tighter after this experience! Cheers from nsw

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thank for the kind words

[@markholtan5696]

First of all and most importantly is your son is safe and was able to walkway with out any damage except for his pride and no one else was hurt. In my opinion that is a 95% successful recovery 👍👍👍the good news for your viewers is we get to see more videos of an 80 rebuild 😂😂👍ohhh yes get me some cold beer and let’s get watching 😂😂😂😂once again glad your son and everyone around was safe and thanks for posting the video.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks mate. The rebuilt video went up late last year.

[@johnkersley584]

Great video, thanks for sharing and glad no one was injured

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comment!

[@XploringOz]

Nice work mate! Glad to see people go through the whole process and explain what went right and what can be improved 👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks. It’s not easy showing people your mistakes but it’s a good way to learn.

[@paulvanross4783]

Good on you matt for being so honest. Thanks for sharing and glad your son is okay. Experiences like this are worth going through and very valuable for all.

[@MadMatt4WD]

My pleasure. Yes a lot was learned that day. Robert’s contribution was great as well.

[@cybermatstrikes7557]

Nice work Matt and boys. Having escaped a catastrophic fail on my first week with my license, it does stay with you. Glad to see you back on the horse!!

[@motodog621]

Great video, analyzing your own mistakes shows great character. My wife was watching with me and agrees- you (and your son) showed great honesty. Thank you so much for sharing!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@stevem540i]

Thanks so much for sharing so openly & honestly. Among all the emotions you experienced, pride in your boys should also be one of them. Owning your mistakes isn’t easy, but is obviously a sign of his trust & respect for you. If I may offer a tip I was taught, is to have a very experienced person at the rear of a convoy for when situations arise & someone needs help. Thanks again & good luck with the new build.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yea proud of both of my boys. RE: Convoy order valid point- Most of the time I had Rod, my mate with vast experience, at the tail of the convoy. I thought I would give my son some experience there and it also put a winch at the back of the convoy. Maybe that was not a wise discussion, in hind sight! Thanks for your comments :)

[@stevem540i]

@@MadMatt4WD it’s always much easier to make a judgement call with the benefit of hindsight mate. I’m sure you’ve all become a little wiser & gained valuable experience from this, which in turn is benefiting the whole 4wd community. Thank you 👍

[@neilodonnell4072]

Thanks for the video Matt

[@brentonpaterson7047]

Very educational. Thanks for turning a difficult situation into something positive.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Glad it was helpful!

[@chrismason4512]

Fantastic video showing a very stressful event. Glad to hear everyone was ok. A trick ive learnt was use the embankment to your advantage and place a tree trunk protecter onto a strong tree at the top what this does is straighten out the angle of your winch rope pulling the vechile up the hill.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yep

[@edwardpeters4700]

Awesome honest reflections by both you and your son. Hats off to you blokes for allowing your tough situation to become a learning experience for all of us.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Much appreciated

[@Theoffroader80]

That’s a great video Matt covering some many different aspects of vehicle recovery including not only the technical side but the thought process that goes into a difficult recovery. Thanks forGreat video 👍👍👍👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks 👍 I am glad you appreciated it.

[@shaneraber3072]

Glad nobody was hurt. Also thank you and your family for allowing yourselves to be vulnerable for a good learning experience.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thank you!

[@GhostofZuuzGaming]

ive been in a very similar recovery situation late at night middle of a snow storm and on a tight trail. My mate hit black ice and skidded off the side of the trail and was saved by a rock which kept it rolling down the hill probably 50 meters. 5hrs broke 2 winch cables, had about 4 cars doing pull work and finally got the patrol out. owner and family were ok, drove patrol home with damaged passenger piller.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Oh wow!

[@DeejayManii]

the fact he got up, dusted himself off and finished the trip speaks for itself, hes got tenacity. i would have packed up the hobby and looked into bird watching! - the auto trans fluid could have gone into the transfer.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Hahaha... he is a great guy, "He said why go home?" tenacity is a great word for it!

[@drivingparadox]

So glad to hear there were no injuries to loved ones except the 80 series. Highly valuable video and kudos for sharing warts and all. Thanks to Robert Pepper also.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Yes

[@andrewheadland50]

I think did a marvellous job & I'm glad nobody was hurt in the process

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thansk Andrew

[@craigmclintock8358]

Thanks for sharing. Glad everyone was ok. I certainly learnt some stuff here. Your young blokes have a great father/mentor. Good job Matt

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks 👍

[@dirtyoff-roadaustralian5525]

Thank you We are glade your all ok and appreciate your knowledge and covering a situation so close to heart

[@MadMatt4WD]

I appreciate that. Thanks for your comment. Cheers!

[@alanjones511]

Excellent job Matt ! Very brave to share everything. 👏👏👏

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks mate

[@markbouchie8973]

Great video, Sir, and I appreciate you allowing us all to learn and benefit from this unfortunate experience. This showed me that thinking about convoy order based on driver experience, terrain, etc., can really matter, and I will pay more attention to that from now on myself and put slower and/or less experienced drivers near the front of the group. Good on you for realizing you were stressed and managing it accordingly as best you could. One other take away for me is that given the added stress of it being your son and vehicle, as trip leader, it would have been perfectly fine and perhaps advisable to put your trusted and experienced mate in charge of the recovery itself as he may have been able to think more clearly since he was not as emotionally tied to the whole thing. Very happy your son was okay and thanks for sharing!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks mate. So much to learn. It never crossed my mind that Rod could take the lead. Great comment

[@raelock8145]

Realy injoyed the content and will be refering back to this later in life thanks heaps for all the amaizing content and tips of all types of 4wding

[@MadMatt4WD]

Great to hear!

[@stanschaefer9010]

It is quite likely that the transmission drained out via the vent tube in a small stream straight in to the soil without leaving any sort of trace because it would have drained so slowly (Just a Guess because of the potential siphoning effect). I say this because I was in the transmission industry for many years and I have also been on sight with a rollover where this has happened. To the other side of this rollover, it is a GR8 lesson to all of us that cooler heads will prevail, you and your team handled this very well and considering the circumstances I would say excellent. Bravo to you and your TEAM.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks mate. I think t What you’re suggesting must be what’s happened.

[@scottsdm]

An awesome honest video Matt. A great lesson for everyone involved and your viewers!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks

[@deeiks12]

Thanks for sharing Matt!

[@n9ghtb9k5r]

check the transfer case oil levels, could have migrated there

[@MadMatt4WD]

These have a drain between them so it’s not possible

[@lukedearing770]

@@MadMatt4WD any way it could have leaked out the front of the box, or out through the breather whilst on its side?

[@NoLaggPlz]

@@MadMatt4WD more than likely would have drained out the dipstick and after cranking the engine over and getting oil everywhere/in the midst of the recovery wouldnt have noticed the atf all over the floor. too focused on other things

[@easyroller54]

Hey Matt. I just discovered your channel and immediately subscribed. I’m not an off roader in trucks but I do a lot of back country ATV riding. I have been involved in a few ATV recoveries and experienced a lot of what you described here in this video. This was a very serious recovery (thank God your son was not injured) and I admire the way you handled it and the emotional stresses involved. And thank you for walking us through the process. I plan to use this as a teaching aid for our ATV club members. Keep up the great work!

[@MadMatt4WD]

I’m really pleased this was helpful. Some of my recovery videos may be helpful. Thanks for the sub.

[@gofaroverland7854]

Thanks for sharing MAtt! A very valuable vid

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks I wish more people took the time to watch it and learn.

[@electronicshaman]

Thanks Matt, really appreciate the insights into the psychology of the recovery.

[@MadMatt4WD]

My pleasure!

[@billp3819]

You learned ways to do better on the next recovery. Thank you for sharing this, it took a lot of adult thinking on sons part.

[@NorthernBorderBoys]

Thanks heaps for posting mate ! I have learnt a lot ! The 80 will be back to mint in no time !

[@MadMatt4WD]

Hope so! Thanks

[@thisoldjeepcj5]

The old saying, hindsight is 2020. You could have done this and you could have done that. You did an amazing job. Glad no one was hurt and all went home safe. Thanks for sharing, the stress and the adrenaline is often overlooked but is an important factor. The knowledge gained is what I look for when I watch youtube.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks and I’m glad I helped. I feel it was important to be real about it in the video.

[@markholtan5696]

That was a very informative video and is the first one of its kind that I have seen. I think your son did great, any vehicle you roll over and able to walk away from without the driver getting hurt or anyone else in my opinion is over 95% successful 👍👍👍well done on him. The positive I can see for me is expecting all those new build videos of the 80. Just got to stock up on beer now and start watching 😂😂😂once again I’m glad all is ok and we all can learn from it all 👍👍👍

[@skitzy8189]

Great video.helpful info.glad no one was hurt and good to see at the end you guys were having a joke..one another note i hope you had fun acting as a security guard in the movie...

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks 👍... re: movie it was hard work but soooo much fun. I would do it again tomorrow! But I am no actor.

[@CaseysOffRoadRecovery]

The recovery was great. As always the video and details around the situation were top shelf. No one was hurt in the accident or the recovery, that is an important aspect. Great Job! Steering wheel is on the wrong side!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks Mate. It means a lot to me that you take the time to watch and comment. The steering wheel is on the Right side so there really is no discussion to be had on that point.

[@MrDingo71]

Appreciate the raw honesty in this video!

[@MadMatt4WD]

thanks

[@shanelittle6621]

Glad to hear that your boy's alright, I have picked up a lot from this video. I'm new to the 4wd scene so this was a real eye opener, just subscribed. Stay safe mate.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Welcome aboard!

[@lukedearing770]

Hey Matt, Realistically there are really two things that make a good recovery from a bad one. 1) Ensure everyone's safety, 2) Taking the time to develop a plan once you have everyone in a safe position. The only thing you could do differently in hindsight, as someone who has spent some time in the Vic High country (and I know the exact spot the car went off). The one rule we have for our trips in the High country - everyone has a winch, and everyone carries a basic recovery kit, with that you typically would have a snatch strap, a tree trunk protector, a winch extension strap, and appropriate shackles/safety devices - this way you would have had a bit more available equipment and means you could have used a 2 winch pull to get the car up (it's also easier to manage tension on different lines which adds to safety in the situation). However, with the available equipment you got the car out and no one was injured - That's a successful recovery every day of the week. Good on you for being honest about how you felt in that situation and for being adult enough not to rip the young bloke a new one - we have all made mistakes in the past (and not to be too bold but I imagine there would have been some thoughts of your late brother as well).

[@MadMatt4WD]

Cheers mate. Great comment. Yes post the event we thought about Dan.

[@billroach2393]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing...and it is with that in mind that I make these couple of casual comments....NOT criticisms!! (1). I have always worked on the premise that it is best to place any "novice" driver in P2 in the convoy...certainly not TEC. (2). At the risk of sounding condescending to your youngest son, you as trip leader, possibly should have been on the radio more often and giving him guidance about the road conditions ahead of him. For example, if he'd been behind you Matt, and you were conscious of the sharpish corner you had just negotiated (which may have appeared "nothing" to you, but through your knowledge of your son's novice status, may have occurred to you that he may benefit from some guidance), you could have advised to exercise a bit of caution. Something like: "mate, there's a bit of sharpish left hander ahead of you, might want to back off a bit"...... Just saying.....NOT a criticism. All-in-all, as others have said, I think the whole recovery was handled as well as could have been expected. Job well done. Cheers, Roachie

[@billroach2393]

Just a further note about the "TEC officer" (as we refer to Tail-End-Charlie..... In my opinion you should allocate the trip leader position to a well-versed wheeler...preferably the most experienced in the convoy. The TEC officer should, preferably be the 2nd most experienced driver. In the case of that little trip, I reckon Matt should have been in the lead and your long time mate with the beard should have been TEC...just an idea.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Hey Roachie. You make excellent points. This was day 4 of our trip and the 4 of us had been travelling together well. Rod had been tec for the previous 3 days and this was for a short run into dargo so I got complacent or just too much holiday mode. Regardless I’ll be paying more attention to where the experience is in my convoys from here on in. I’d hate to think of the number of trips I’ve lead over the years. 100s. But we can all get caught. I’ve learnt a lot through this.

[@chrispedlar1918]

And through your openness Matt, so have allot of other now! 👍😎😎😎

[@TonyTony-rd4rj]

@@MadMatt4WD it was just Murphy's Law. Thats life..

[@davidnorthrup3674]

First of all, thank you for sharing this in the way you did. It is a great way for not only others too learn, but yourself. It will serve you immensely that you are willing to realize that you can make a mistake and there for can learn! Your son will not be forgetting this, and there for will have learned a lot from it. And as far as the recovery goes, there will always be things that could have been done different, sometimes better sometimes not. All that really matters is that you got it done without anyone getting hurt. And for that reason I say, WELL DONE! And thanks again for sharing it.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Great comment thanks David

[@jackrussellville]

I appreciate you and your son sharing this, I'm teaching my son to drive now and teaching about how a vehicle works and it's limits is very difficult to teach much less learn

[@MadMatt4WD]

That is awesome!

[@whoguy4231]

Thanks for the vid, very educational .... under the circumstances... Good Job and nobody got hurt.

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks

[@jackfourbee3609]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. With all the knowledge and training one can have and do, put real life emotions in play. It changes everything. The mane thing is Jess is ok. Well executed in that situation. Everyone got home safe. (It’s like scraping off the burnt bit with a knife😂) Great vid Matt well done. Keep up the good Matt 👏👏👏

[@MadMatt4WD]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing... never a more true statement!

[@nevilleholmes4422]

Great video and better still no serious injuries- thanks for sharing

[@onehot57]

Very good video Matt, good that everyone is OK!

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks and yes

[@bradlovejoy5814]

Great Video Matt on how to recover a vehicle Glad everyone was ok and you finished your trip. The Vic High Country is great play ground most us would have stories of similar incidents or near misses in this part of the world trust me. Keep up the good work 👍

[@MadMatt4WD]

Thanks Brad