Ron Weasley Sacrifices Himself for the Team

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Follow MprooV on Twitter / mproovapp #agadmator Jeremy Silman: When I was asked to create the chess position for Harry Potter And The Sorcerer’s Stone, I was more than delighted. Throughout my life, I’ve watched movies and TV shows make a joke of real chess positions and real chess lingo. Now, after years of seething, I finally had a chance to do the job right.
My gripes were the following:
* When referring to an opening system, the actors would never say, "Ah, that’s my favorite line in the Sicilian Defense.” Instead they would blurt out, "Hey Jeb! You are playing the Farmer Smith line against the Oak Tree Defense.” I’ve never understood why they couldn’t use a real opening name in the script.
* When referring to a famous player, they would never say, "Oh, there goes Alekhine!” Instead, we would always get some bastardized Russian name: "Oh, there’s goes Ragmazagolsky!”
* The actors were never taught how to move the pieces correctly. A real chess player doesn’t push the piece meekly forward, he grabs the sucker and smashes it down on a square. If he captures, one hand moves his piece and simultaneously cranes the enemy unit off the board, almost faster than the eye can follow.
* In about 20% of the scenes I’ve watched, the chessboard has actually been incorrectly placed, with a dark square in White’s right hand corner (it’s supposed to be a light square in that corner).
* Invariably, no matter how strong the players are supposed to be, one will think for quite a long time, smile, confidently make his move, and his opponent will move something and say, "Checkmate!” (Does any strong player EVER say checkmate?).
Clearly, I was faced with stemming this tide of insanity. Unfortunately, many of these ideas faded when I read the first Potter book and was faced with the problem at hand: What position would I create that would justify Ron sacrificing himself?
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[@billlupin8345]

He not only created a puzzle that suited their needs, he made it very dramatic. The queen takes the rook _right in front_ of Harry. Very scary. When Ron gets taken, he's way on the other side of the board, making it feel like there's nothing they can do.

[@williamdeng7524]

most importatantly how the fuck does black have 2 bishops and a rook more then white but dont have a queen?

[@markusmueller---]

Why Not rook to c1? What white can do is just put the Queen in Front of the rook or capture with their rook Both will follow bishop to c5 checkmate

[@SimWillems]

Then simply Rxc5. You just put a white rook on the file where you're putting your bishop.

[@yureft]

STOP! We are still playing...

[@pramodkoppada6821]

@@markusmueller--- well that simply don't work once you play rc1 then rxc1, bxc1, the white will simply move the pawn on h file and you missed the checkmate chance

[@KunaiForce]

Hermione literally only castled

[@sh-bf7bv]

F1 / F2?

[@The_Jim]

Ron was trying to slay the muggle born hottie, he couldn’t if she was all twisted up

[@elijahmiles3500]

If they had to take 3 pieces, Ron should've taken the king, that way he's able to play the whole game. Then he should have put like Hermione as one of the rooms and Harry as the g2 or b2 pawn. Those pieces are fairly easy to keep alive.

[@elijahmiles3500]

*rooks

[@akasyaharchie4765]

She was the queen side castle wasn't she?

[@gorillaglag4944]

and now 1.2m people know of his contribution which is more than the amount who read the names in the credits

[@YariAzQuran]

I take solace in that for sure as some kind of justice

[@patrickclifford2331]

Very true

[@thaarbitor2003]

Facts!

[@jimmymoss3579]

That’s karma

[@fakenio242]

1.4*

[@mysteryGuySaysHi]

Ron later survived changed his name, dyed his hair and moved to the muggle community and was known to many as Mikhail Tal

[@p.celeste1307]

Funny ☺☺😊😊😀😁😁

[@Drzee-ow9bd]

Hahaha😂🤭

[@rajveersinha2484]

😂

[@kubasochor5184]

The magician from Riga

[@AkashDayanand]

😂😂😂😂

[@MadderMel]

Terrible that they didn't mention him in the credits .

[@JesusFriedChrist]

Yeah it’s a damn shame.

[@jancelestinesantiago5284]

1point 6 likes 2 comments

[@sethbuscus]

True that's Hollywood for you though they don't give a crap about anyone but themselves no need for Godly morals or giving credit to someone who isn't an actor.

[@at30774]

@Your moms HITACHI did u like not watch the full video?

[@ebnus3146]

@@sethbuscus actually, they also forgot to mention a woman playing a witch in the leaky cauldron, and they fucked up some names of slytherin quidditch players

[@renekrsnadasa14]

Ron had so much Elo.

[@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725]

How strong was the magic chess board though?

[@seanmiller3756]

@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 Well, in the books the board was enchanted by Professor McGonagall, and it's sort of implied that the "engine" used by the board was based of off her skill level. Of course Elo is never mentioned in HP, but McGonagall was written to the a genius who consistently gained perfect scores in all manor of academic testing. Considering she was already one of the best duelists and transmutes on the planet, the fact that she chose to use her skill in chess to protect the Sorceror's Stone implies she was probably one of the best chess players in the wizarding world as well.

[@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725]

@@seanmiller3756 I wouldn't of thought that white was one of the best players in the world by how ron dismantled it. Unless ron is like a super gm wizard

[@seanmiller3756]

Ron is something much stronger than a super gm. He's a main character in a children's book who is trying his best. :)

[@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725]

@@seanmiller3756 lol I guess in real life they play the wizard version of magnus and aren't able to win.

[@shadebinder9969]

"they didnt even include him in the credits." Wow that almost physically hurts. Like litterally everyone ends up in the credits of movies. They play for like half an hour.

[@graealex]

All the people that work for a movie production are usually associated with guilds, which always requires the production company to include them in the credits, and companies include clauses to get mentioned in the credits. That is contrary to many other businesses, where you might sign NDAs preventing you from even mentioning any association. So the credits aren't just a random list of people the production company somehow remembered, but a big legal liability. The production company can't just add or remove names from the credits at will. This all goes back to the time when movies had no credits, and actors could barely make a living because they were so replaceable.

[@shadebinder9969]

@@graealex TIL thanks. Also didn't know some unions used the word guild. I thought it was antiquated

[@graealex]

@@shadebinder9969 It's interesting how the industry is organized, and reading up on SAG and SAG-AFTRA on Wikipedia gives a good overview. It contains stuff like: "No member shall work as a performer or make an agreement to work as a performer for any producer who has not executed a basic minimum agreement with the Guild which is in full force and effect." "Membership in SAG-AFTRA is considered a rite of passage for new performers and media professionals. It is often procured after getting hired for their first job in a studio that has a collective bargaining agreement with the union." So once you are a member, you can't work for companies that don't have agreements with SAG, and once a company has an agreement with the SAG, it can only employ SAG members.

[@o00nemesis00o]

@@graealex You'd think that would violate some fairly fundamental employment law.

[@graealex]

@@o00nemesis00o Yeah, you'd think. Regarding the guy making the chess puzzles getting credited: "The comic-book-inspired Sin City is No. 1 at the box office right now. Last year, its director Robert Rodriguez quit the Directors Guild of America in a dispute over whether he could bring on the author of the comic, Frank Miller, as a credited co-director. A reader asks: What happens to a director who’s not in the guild?" "Why couldn’t Rodriguez bring in a co-director? The guild has stuck to a one-director-per-film policy since 1978, to keep producers and stars from demanding “gift credits.” Exceptions are made under special circumstances"

[@gasp1424]

can we appreciate how Ron beat a bot even in a game where he couldn't sacrifice a bishop and a rook (or himself until late in the game).

[@xxyWolf]

It has been a while since i saw the movie, but if i remember correctly ron makes the observation along the lines of "Whenever White has the opportunity to capture a piece, they do it" - which makes that bot VERY predictable and easy to beat.

[@sevenpolar3483]

@@xxyWolf you remember incorrectly

[@sanjanasharma5892]

@@xxyWolf u probably watched ron’s gambit

[@zoklev]

it's a low depth bot considering it took the rook sac instead of preventing mate

[@rayvaasatlotld9357]

@@zoklev if the queen leaves the file he can checkmate with the knight on h3, so you’re not running on a high depth either.

[@merylsmith8297]

"Hey guys we're trying to finish out these credits- I feel like we're forgetting someone though" "Are you thinking of that nice kid that delivered donuts?" "Yeah, that must have been it"

[@davidbjacobs3598]

At 2:39, Ron also could've played Bc5+. Then after Qxc5, Nh3 is mate. In other words, Ron had the option to sacrifice himself or Harry.

[@blackdarkdarkerbleach7100]

Thought the same

[@lecioperyjunior1690]

This is the actual solution, I believe.

[@herzwatithink9289]

All Hermione had to do was play shield maiden and watch from the sidelines

[@Nubian42]

Hermione took away the important f1 square from the white king

[@smartstix66]

Not necessarily. After Bc5, white can play h3, which complicates the mate further. Nh3 is more forced.

[@kaigreen5641]

I had always wondered how this would look on a real board, I remember reading it in the books and thinking "How the fuck does harry checkmate the king with only the bishop? Glad to finally see a position that actually works.

[@Gandorhar]

Kai Green well its not only harry its also hermoine and the other bishop which are needed for the checkmate

[@NoAllahNoGod]

Rowling probably never thought that out, like so many other things in the books. This is why a pro has to create a chess position to make the checkmate possible in the first place.

[@zat1245]

Satan Maybe. But they are all dwarfed by the sheer mass of what she did think out.

[@sergeirachmaninoff876]

Bruh

[@figmentinfinity8259]

@@zat1245 And how she later went back and made everyone gay.

[@nickp3949]

Never understood why Ron just didn’t make his family rich by becoming a chess GM...

[@robfab5204]

Think he's better at chess or magic haha

[@TheOneWhoHasABadName]

probably should have gone hustling for a few bucks, and play the occasional muggle or wizard chess tournament here and there that is, if he even has an ID for muggle Britain to register himself into tournaments with lol

[@ceratoenjoyer]

You say it as if chess gms make Alot of money lol

[@metaldogstudio]

@@ceratoenjoyer the top players make decent money

[@jfbxjk3037]

​@@ceratoenjoyerthey make

[@maxhinchliffe5660]

Another thing that I never see mentioned about this but is really cool, is that Ron made a really interesting opening choice. You can watch in the movie he goes with the Scandinavian defense. I see people wonder "why does he have all his weaker pieces but no queen?" Probably because of this opening. It's not a really highly regarded defense against e4 for black, its not bad but there are better options for sure. It's a bit wild because you send out the Queen so early, but it's actually really clever and considerate from Ron, because by going with an opening that used the Queen more he protected himself and his friends, the weaker pieces, that usually go first. Ron used the Scandinavian, and riskily put the Queen out first to help his friends.

[@davidjones4201]

Great observation. Very combative, going for checkmate, avoiding piece exchanges. That's some incredible storytelling for a chess game.

[@sayemali7766]

Another suggestion from movies: Sherlock Vs Moriarty game from the 2nd movie (game of shadows)

[@agadmator]

I'll check it out :)

[@lecioperyjunior1690]

You didn't knew that one yet? It's worth gold! People had done it already on KZbin, but I'd rather see your version, since I like your commentary.

[@mukmin01]

we love you agadmator for being so friendly listening to suggestions :)

[@waddlin_penguin7555]

I'm pretty sure that in that chess game the players literally switch sides mid-game with no explanation or even acknowledgement of such a happening.

[@Rumu11]

another suggestion: the chess match from No Game No Life... they only cheat a 'little' bit :3

[@matthewsutton5532]

I bet Agadmator cried on that scene when voldemort got check mated.

[@JungleCrook]

When did old Voldy play chess? that rascal

[@LeVezz]

It was Hogwart's Professors that made these challenges in order to prevent Voldemort from getting to the Philosopher's stone.

[@pathutchison9866]

When did Voldemort play chess?

[@ra1zoo]

1:47 It is funny to call a bishop hairy :)

[@buzzedbrain]

ra1zoo What does Simon Williams have to do with this game? And how does that make the h-pawn Harry? Shed some light? I didn't get the reference and it's driving me nuts.

[@bleach4038]

Simon Williams names all of his pawns, his h-pawn is called Harry.

[@smugless191]

@@bleach4038 thanks

[@_Harry_Potter]

Brilliant

[@gavinjenkins899]

You're a bishop, Harry. I'm not a bishop, I'm just Harry!

[@anp1609]

Never wondered about the actual game that was played in the movie! Great video! That's what you call original!

[@matthewwroblewski8752]

"...that's how far down the food chain chess is" lmao too funny!!

[@applescruff1969]

Funny because it's true.

[@kas8ia]

wróblewski huh

[@TheBeastNC]

And now chess is at the top.

[@nuwandalton]

Love how he plays the Scandinavian to check whether it was real wizard chess ^^

[@stefan4159]

Ron Weasley, the oldest member of #TeamScandi.

[@beatlecristian]

It’s a waste of a pawn if you ask me, even if it dies open up the D file.

[@SuperDCookie]

"Harry knocked the queen down" I just completely lost it there 🤣 This Video made my day

[@tuhinchoudhury7201]

Shout-out to the guy who created this puzzle and gave chess a remarkable position in the first harry potter movie♥️

[@user-ht1vg5we2p]

"Your favourite chess channel has done a video about your favorite movie" Me not knowing how to express my excitement in any other way: *BLOODY HELL*

[@boringflint9803]

Thanks for amazing work again.

[@mattallred]

glad he's getting credited through you, interesting video, brought me back :'-)

[@ZenoDiac]

3:36 woah.... unbelievable

[@DustPox]

Cool idea for a video!

[@MagarAnandChidambaranathan]

How could they have not acknowledged him. It hurts to hear about it. This is such a crafted masterpiece.!

[@Trowa71]

This is something I shall forever bring up when talking about Harry Potter. Thanks for the video.

[@urospetrovic1086]

I was wondering if you are going to post this one, and you did. Made my day!

[@josephdickson3531]

That really sucks they didn’t credit him. I know from experience what it felt like watching everyone go by in credits hoping to see your name, but it never shows. :’(

[@niklas0000]

My favorite one so far. Good Job Team!

[@BattleslashX]

Why didn't Ron choose one of them to be the king, and why did he choose to be a knight, one of the most likely to get traded?

[@longball756]

Jesse Wu that's such a good point 😂😂😂

[@longball756]

He might as well chose to be the E4 pawn 😂😂😂😂

[@network_noob]

there were only 3 vacant squares for a rook a bishop and a knight!

[@warwickthekingmaker7281]

Wait. Doesn`t that mean that only a party of 3 could find the philosophers stone? Or does the chess board change depending on how big the company is?

[@TaismoFanBoy]

According to the book, when they walk into the room, a piece for every player will leave the board. And in the movie, the way Ron shouts out who gets what piece sounds like he saw the three available, realized "oh snap a rook/bishop/knight?? I'll choose the one easiest sacrificed to protect them" type of thing.

[@TuetchenR]

I got a an ad for an chess teacher got 1 min through before noticing it was an ad

[@checkmate885]

Robin Riediger Is it about this Website called improvemychess.com?

[@allen3178]

Garry Kasparov teaches chess?

[@tim9352]

Great Video.

[@logannoble4]

this is the content we need

[@averagestatelesssinner]

I was waiting for this moment, long ago! :)

[@xXjuanpablo1403Xx]

Harry the H pawn 😂

[@richardcharlesworth6069]

This scene in Harry Potter is the reason why my two daughters are interested in chess. We have the Harry Potter wizard chess set which is very good.

[@phabidz]

Make video of it?

[@robfab5204]

I wanna buy one of those

[@sanketmanna8653]

Finally, was looking for it!

[@AppyKumari]

Omggg!! I recently got into chess during lockdown and I was scrolling through HP memes and remembered Ron was good at chess, I wonder if I would enjoy the story more now since I understand chess and I found this!!!!! Thank you. Yayy 😍😍😍

[@nik0096]

Chess is one of the most underrated sports !

[@siskarahmadani5691]

thank you, I'm both Ron and chess fan ^^

[@multipurpose101]

I actually made a video about this 8 years ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3eZfHuoad5pfqc

[@tekekaki]

I was wondering if you did this video because I was so curious about Ron's game, and of course you did it, you're my hero man

[@TheRMJQandA]

As a kid wizards chess was one of the coolest thing I wish they could of added more of it the some of the plot lines it was so epic

[@sergelorenzvillasica2361]

Is the chess game between House and one a patient in S03E23 accurate? If so, can you show it to us with your amazing commentary? :)

[@nescoalrem]

There is an explanation here: www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/remember-the-chess-game-on-house

[@lepredator189]

Serge Lorenz Villasica the game between House and Nate is based on an old real game that ended in Anastasia's mating pattern. I don't remember the original game unfortunately, it's been quite a while since I checked it out. In that episode, they reversed the colors and made one or two bizarre and downright silly waiting moves to transpose to the source game.

[@lepredator189]

Here it is: Tarrasch v Richter, Spain 1883.

[@pedropereira6888]

Incredible how people didn't think that showing the chess positions in a movie was interesting enough but then a netflix series takes over the world

[@hrithikkachru]

I congratulate you for this stupendous channel, Just love your commentary. cheers!

[@agadmator]

Thanks hrithik :)

[@guneskoc]

great video!

[@rays5163]

That farmer smith line is the stuff of legends though.

[@agadmator]

+Ray S Farmer smith line :D

[@zarathustrasserpent1850]

That's the fun thing about pop culture, though. Every artifact is inspiring other artifacts. So every good movie has lots of KZbin videos discussing it in many ways. And so, even though the moviegoers didn't get to enjoy this chess puzzle, we can enjoy it here on KZbin.

[@genki2469]

Huh, you play chess? :D

[@vivvpprof]

I enjoyed the video tremendously!!!

[@danielezeme3364]

Loved this episode

[@10freekie2]

Worst thing is that harry doesnt take the queen but says it is already checkmate the turn before the queen can block it haha

[@JontyLevine]

It's worth noting that Ron's line in the scene was "then you'll be free to *_check_* the king." It's possible he gave a longer explanation of the forced mate afterwards but it may have been cut for time. In fact, I want to believe there's an entire unused take of Harry destroying the white queen. If I ever was to meet Daniel Radcliffe, my first and only question would be to ascertain whether this footage exists.

[@ngarcia103]

​@@JontyLevine Thanks to the full scene being uploaded on YT, I took a look - when the White King drops his sword in front of Harry, you can see a shot of what I think might be the White Queen knocked over, on the left side of the screen. So I think the move was made, just cut from the movie.

[@basmeisters3]

Thanks for this video. I didn't know this and I couldn't figure out the chessposition in the movie. Also, in the movie Harry gives immediate checkmate after Ron Sacrified himself, and in your video the bishop has to make 2 moves. So yes, I do think they screwed this up. Too bad, because I too detest those stupid chess scenes in movies as you described.

[@AvalonWizard]

I’ve spent the last few weeks watching your videos. This is awesome. Lol.

[@johndobson1899]

I’m getting my 9year old into chess and she loves HP so I can’t wait to show her this . Thank you

[@tyrannism5648]

When did Tyrion Lannister become a chess master

[@MightyPee]

Cyvasse ;) gameofcyvasse.com/

[@ArnoldSig]

What video did you watch, I watched the video with Mr. Bean

[@2veki]

I know its a joke but even in GoT he is one of the smartest characters there.

[@hellatze]

@@2veki but he make a lot of failure. Dont put too much credit oh him

[@sheefra7731]

He won with the Scandi too

[@Waythroughway]

Watching this right before the scene, perfect video

[@PhilipVels]

Absolutely brilliant to compose a puzzle for Harry Potter. No mention in the credits. I think they owe him a big apology.

[@RAEN74]

Your snarky half smirk's make me laugh everytime..."to kill harry" hahaha

[@rakeshmehra6321]

Will I ever be able to solve at least one damn puzzle!?

[@PatrickEugenio]

Lol, can't believe you also made one for this. Thank you!

[@siddharthvashishtha1275]

Really sad to know that Jeremy was not given credit for this in the movie. Thanks for letting us know about him and providing this nice Harry Potter puzzle to the public! :)

[@gavinator8018]

3:54, that sad laugh when he realizes that much of his life has been dedicated to chess.

[@kevinreyeskev2475]

0:21 Jeremy Silman?! I just finished reading one of his chess books!

[@knarfx4732]

I actually dint know what position was played on the movie.. thanks man Best chess channel 💪💪💪

[@multipurpose101]

I actually made a video about this 8 years ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3eZfHuoad5pfqc

[@gregoryzala136]

Harry the h pawn hahah thank you Simon

[@lecioperyjunior1690]

Simplified version: white blunders, then white blunders again, then checkmate is unavoidable.

[@martinmaguire-music6692]

I can see the first blunder, I think, Qxd3 (capturing the pawn) But where is the second blunder? (EDIT: d3 not c3)

[@Wtahc]

Rose English Deluxe There's no second blunder. Our dear friend Lécio thinks he's smarter than an International Master.

[@lecioperyjunior1690]

Rose, try checking with Stockfish 8 if capturing the Rook with the queen was a good idea. The answer is a mixed feeling: checkmate was still avoidable up to that point, but on the other hand the "way out" of this was still a winning position for black. I would personally think that God abandoned me and resign at that point if I were white.

[@martinmaguire-music6692]

+Lecio, you are right, in the sense that, if Qf5, then the only way to win is if Hermione takes the queen and gets killed by the knight. I mean, this is from stockfish. After Qf5, every winning sequence for white involves Rxf5, Nxf5 at some point. And whilst, in the film, Ron could survive being knocked off the stone horse, Hermione literally is the rook, and would presumably get hit directly by the white knight and hence die. Although the stockfish engine on lichess still calls Qxc3 a 'Good Move' lol, but it thinks Qf5 is the best which, with the parameters, causes huge problems. But it's not a 'blunder,' unless the engine in Harry Potter knew the parameters.

[@AssortedIdiocy]

Silman explained Qxd3 as follows: "This eats a pawn (thereby making the producer happy!) and prevents the Knight's intrusion into h3. She also threatens to capture Harry on a3! Note that I had the Queen make the capture because I wanted to do everything possible to turn this piece into something the young fans hated. In other words, I wanted to turn the White Queen into the scene's villain." It was not meant to be the best chess move. www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/features/essays/issue26/chessgameinsorcerersstone/

[@canirunit8162]

In 2010 there was a human chess in Bangkok. The queens on both side were highest rank female celebrities. Both received $10000 for something like 1 hour standing in the chess board. Meanwhile the highest rate ELO chess player in Thailand at that time who command white and black pieces each of them received something like...$150...

[@samuraishinobi]

Ron was a true knight to the very end. A noble one if I might add.

[@riesenhobbit3958]

"It´s pretty funny to call this Bishop Harry!" It is xD xD

[@icelick6912]

When Harry is the darksquare bishop: Reverse Jerome gambit time 😎

[@kaizoisevil]

I realized that Harry could have been the one to get captured instead, and Ron would deliver checkmate.

[@victorshilin9360]

There's also a line where Hermione could get captured as well (actually the strongest line for white, found by Stockfish 10): lichess.org/study/dGTfWBpu . Kinda sad that either Ron, Harry or Hermione getting captured (unless white blunders).

[@muddledlion9593]

Who tf would beat voldemort then get the fu***** storyline

[@janeryan2709]

"Not me. Not Hermione. You."

[@robfab5204]

How would they win if Harry gets captured and Ron doesn't

[@Marshal_Longarm]

@Rob Fab 1. Black: Bishop (Harry) A3-C5 + (Check) 2. White: Queen C3xC5 (Capture Harry) Black: Knight (Ron) G5-H3 # (Checkmate)

[@mba4677]

Dat Simon Williams reference, perfect for the video lmao

[@MrDaveangelo1]

I never thought I will have to watch a breakdown of a chess scene from the first Harry Potter movie, yet here I am.

[@zottffss]

You have to remember that Ron had to win the game while ALSO keeping Harry and Hermione from being captured/attacked by any of White's pieces. His ELO is over the roof on that one.

[@gobbergobberer4776]

While I like how he designed the puzzle, I have one complaint. When Harry moved, he said "checkmate", even though it clearly wasn't, there was still one move to be played, the Qe3. Can't call it a checkmate when it's not. So how was Harry supposed to destroy the queen made of stone with his bare hands? So, from dramatic point of view, the puzzle isn't perfect.

[@jaitdas3582]

He never really says check mate actually. The white king just throws his crown at his feet meaning he resigns.

[@jaitdas3582]

Also the human players do take pieces they don't have to actually kill them you know just go over to their square.

[@gobbergobberer4776]

@@jaitdas3582 First off, he does say checkmate, go check out the clips of the real wizard chess scene, and second, about your point that they can take pieces by just go over to their squares, that of course makes sense, but I think that's kinda lame and non-dramatic, and that's probably why they never showed humans taking pieces in the scene.

[@gobbergobberer4776]

@@jaitdas3582 Also, it's not the crown the king drops, it's the sword.

[@jaitdas3582]

@@gobbergobberer4776 I'm talking about the book.

[@xeltupyreli]

love this channel

[@tanmaybhatt6980]

Looks like agadmator just woke up and made the video.! Haha. So committed to work.!

[@lilylikesmarkies]

Is there a problem with playing Nh3+ immediately, then after Qxh3 (only move) Rc1+ Rxc1 (if Qf1 Bc5#) Bc5+ Qe3 Bxe3# it seems justified have I missed anything?

[@OneWithManyThings]

lilylikesmarkies After Rc1+ the rook is on the c file, so Bc5+ loses to RxB

[@n0valis458]

lilylikesmarkies 3. Rxc5 ;)

[@n0valis458]

Brandon Morehouse o, i was 34s late D:

[@leoff2]

the rook can capture Harry on c5 this way (Rxc5) and end the mate

[@lilylikesmarkies]

Brandon Morehouse thanks I missed that

[@adityas3259]

You know that Ron is not bad when he plays the Scandinavian with black and wins Against an engine, basically.

[@tapaschitre]

"after watching some of the movies, its very hard to call anything but this pawn harry!" - I lol'd so hard.

[@robfab5204]

What is that in reference to

[@astronomygirl2174]

Ron and Harry are awesome

[@immanuellasker4273]

I hope that he had been paid at least

[@jmiquelmb]

Nope. Also, he was asked to pick up the trash from the set and they stole his wallet when he wasn't watching

[@Alt-yg5ng]

@Patrick S his username or his comment?

[@roisinnigcrainn7722]

@@Alt-yg5ng yes

[@termodox]

There is no way to solve this damn puzzle, i spend around 3 hours of my life on this trying to figure it out, then i gave up, watched the solution of the video AND SNAPPED...!!!! (chess annotations below!) You should not play Qxc3, instead white should play Ne6 guarding c5 and attacking Rook (Hermine) on f8. So there is no Rxd3 for black because we would capture the rook. and there is no Bc5+ because the knight guards it. so after 1.Qxd3 Rc3 2. Ne6 only possible moves are with the Knight (2..Nh3+ or 2..Nf3+ or 2..Nxe6) everything else loses Hermine/Harry or the game lets look at 2..Nh3+ first. Here the queen is forced to capture 3.Qxh3 since the Bc5+ isn't possible and rook on f8 is under attack black loses after ANY move since Hermine or Harry are going to die. okay now 2..Nf3+ 3. Qxf3 and black loses again because Hermine or Harry are forced to die. last variation is 2..Nxe6 white simply captures the Rook 3. Qxc3 which attacks the bishop and forces him to move on the last possible square 3..Be7 after which the following line is forced 4. Ng6+ hxg6 5. Qh3+ Kg8 6.Qxe6+ Rf7 7. Qxf7+ (Hermine dies) Plz give a thumbs up and dont want it all go to waste for nothing :) Here are the variations with annotations: [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "?"] [Black "?"] [Result "*"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "5r1k/1pN3pp/1Pb5/n1r1P1n1/7N/b2Q4/7P/1R4K1 b - - 0 1"] [PlyCount "12"] 1... Rc3 2. Ne6 Nxe6 (2... Rxd3 3. Nxf8) (2... Nh3+ 3. Qxh3 Rf7 4. Qxc3) (2... Nf3+ 3. Qxf3 Rcxf3 (3... Rc1+ 4. Rxc1 Rxf3 (4... Bxc1 5. Qxf8#) 5. Nxf3) (3... Re8 4. Qf8+ Rxf8 5. Nxf8) 4. Nxf8) 3. Qxc3 Be7 (3... Nf4 4. Qxa3) 4. Ng6+ hxg6 5. Qh3+ Kg8 6. Qxe6+ Rf7 (6... Kh8 7. Qxe7) 7. Qxf7+ *

[@kalebrowe4726]

xxx xxx I think they made it so that white didn’t know harry, hermione and ron where on pieces. When you where solving this you assumed that white would want to attack the bishop or rook and that it gave it a higher value then its king because if white played Ne6 then black plays Bc5+ and after Nxc5 black can play Rxd3 winning whites queen and having mate in 5 moves. So yes in this situation Harry dies but i don’t think it would happen as white saw that this would lead to checkmate. If you want to be stubborn and say white did know that they where in pieces then in this scenario harry dies but in the other scenario Ron dies, so it wouldn’t really matter to white which one it plays it’s killing one person either way. But I don’t like to think of it this way because the game wouldn’t have lead to this scenario following that logic as white would trade of it’s queen or others pieces early in the game to kill one of them. Ps: either way hermione lives so who really cares anyway. Pps: sorry you wasted 3 hours on this.

[@intergalactic92]

You are assuming that white is thinking like a human. White is thinking like a computer that is keen on capturing as many pieces as possible, and protecting its own queen as it is the most powerful piece left.

[@sebastiankicklighter7402]

Love how you put this one here lol

[@belicko1997]

Поздрав из Србије! Гледам те сваки дан и желим ти срећу у даљем раду.

[@MURDR63]

Absolutely no one: JK Rowling: And Jeremy Silman is gay.

[@UpperCrustthe3rd]

Lol

[@johnluujl]

And everyone forgets that Quirrell / Voldemort won their game, too. Maybe they played hand & brain...?^^

[@robfab5204]

He probably just avada kedavred all the pieces

[@donovanewing1820]

the ultimate Ron sacrifice

[@martinroswell7339]

Loved the video! I think it would’ve been cool if you tried to find a “how could Ron have survived?” solution. Not sure if it would take too much time, but it’d be interesting

[@ngarcia103]

3 years late with this comment, but it's been posted elsewhere in this comment section. There is a solution where Ron survives, but Harry does not. After 1. Qxd3 Rc3 2. Qxc3 you have 2 ... Bc5+ 3. Qxc5 (there's the sacrifice of Harry) 3 ... Nh3# (Ron delivers checkmate)

[@berniel1991]

I would've liked to see Harry knock the Queen down indeed. Unfortunately the Queen didn't interfere, and he just yelled 'checkmate'.

[@multipurpose101]

I included it in a video I made 8 years ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3eZfHuoad5pfqc

[@paxpacis2]

It would've been so cool to see Harry take revenge on the Queen after she killed Ron. Movie made it seem like he didn't care

[@joeschembrie9450]

Chess is far down the food chain in Hollywood, and maybe that tells you what you need to know about Hollywood.

[@mathfincoding]

Thankfully, this didn't age well.

[@oumaima353]

"It's very difficult to call anything but this pawn (h2) Harry" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@clintonjohnson2777]

Good video!

[@soruisareti2654]

Haha "the only thing here can be harry is this pawn" lol 😂

[@reconnell854]

The really impressive thing is that Voldemort/Professor Quirrell won while giving Rook and/or Bishop odds

[@BillboMC]

ReConnell damm never thought of it like that!

[@flightyavian4580]

or maybe he exploded the chess board

[@slivovitz1683]

That was the movie's addition out of convenience. In the books all the pieces are on the board and Ron chooses which ones they replace

[@_spook]

top vid man

[@Bravemeister]

that's beautiful