INEOS GRENADIER OFFROAD TEST and REVIEW

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Ronny Dahl

Ronny Dahl

Күн бұрын

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@trevorhicks7852
@trevorhicks7852 5 ай бұрын
A decent 4wd review, at last! Good on Ineos for letting go and trusting their vehicle and someone we listen to.
@rodgood
@rodgood 5 ай бұрын
Just imagine if Jeep had the 2.7 Gas turbo or 3 litre diesel General Motors engine . And a head office that valued dependability over profit. We would have the King of off road trucks .
@nickrobertshaw9692
@nickrobertshaw9692 5 ай бұрын
Landrover fitted the ZF8HP to the D4 in 2012 so landy owners are well aware of how good they are off-road, good to see you pushing the vehicle in real world conditions.
@beyondthehorizon27
@beyondthehorizon27 5 ай бұрын
Exactly… amazing how they perform. And now, after 12 years toyota boys discovering that there is something cool in ineos that actually works for years not only in LR
@wpns4l
@wpns4l 5 ай бұрын
your the first person i've seen take this on something more than a dirt road with small bumps. So nice to see it could actually handle it and probably just needs a lift.
@steveallen1340
@steveallen1340 5 ай бұрын
I’m loving this vehicle, as long as it proves itself reliable over time it’s a winner.
@ryanandrews559
@ryanandrews559 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm also keeping a look out for that BMW B58. Its proven itself on the motorway but we wanna see how it survives on the safari or the outback
@espkh1549
@espkh1549 5 ай бұрын
Buddy just buy new cars every 5 years… life is short
@himboslice_
@himboslice_ 5 ай бұрын
@@espkh1549 every 5 years is a lot if you're gonna heavily modify suspension, armor etc
@espkh1549
@espkh1549 5 ай бұрын
@@himboslice_ I’ve been running 37 and a 3 inches full kits lift on my jeep JL since 2020. 70K on the clock never had any issues
@himboslice_
@himboslice_ 5 ай бұрын
@@espkh1549 i was responding to the dude who says to get a new car every 5 years lol. idk anyone putting mods on their rig and just replacing it every 5 years unless they like burning $ or are an influencer lol
@Kill4Time255
@Kill4Time255 5 ай бұрын
transfer case used in grenadier is gear driven instead of your usual chain drive , thats why it lets you use all 8 gears
@TheAusGamer1000
@TheAusGamer1000 5 ай бұрын
The grand cherokee with the 8 speed let's you use all 8 gears also, for some reason you're limited to 40kph though
@vinom5364
@vinom5364 5 ай бұрын
like a bicycle?
@tomdixon7955
@tomdixon7955 5 ай бұрын
You’re spot on with the diff locks. They engage and disengage instantly, but… the stupid computer needs to detect different rotation speeds across the axle to realise they are unlocked. I noticed this on mine straight away, its fine if you have space but if you’re in a heavily rutted track you can’t always climb out of the ruts or turn a corner that isn’t there! That said i still love the car, it really is very good. Looking forward to the report with the lift and the 34’s. If you like it I’ll lift mine too.
@tomdixon7955
@tomdixon7955 5 ай бұрын
I’m hopeful they can fix the lockers wit a software update. If they don’t I think they could easily be hardwired to an old fashioned switch.
@DMEU77
@DMEU77 5 ай бұрын
Can you tell me, is Ineos useable on road for a long distance travel? I have a full spec LC150, want to change to new one LC250 or Grenadier. I will use it most on road, just for long distance traveling.
@tomdixon7955
@tomdixon7955 5 ай бұрын
@@DMEU77 The longest day I have done in mine was 930K from Amsterdam to Lyon. That was a long day! The footrest is annoying but it didn’t cause any real pain or discomfort. I wish it wasn’t there, but it’s not as big an issue (for me) as some have made out. The seats are very comfortable and the driving position is nice. As good as any other car that I have driven. I find that the heated seats are good for easing the ‘numb bum’ that you can get on a long drive, even in the summer I stick it on for 20 mins and then off again it does help. I have fitted an airbag lumbar roll to mine as I do suffer with back issues on occasion. I will drive for an hour in one position and then pump it up a bit to give my back a change of position and then deflate it later to do the same. There are only really two positions that your left foot can go in the grenadier, on the foot rest or with your left heel tucked behind your right foot. Again on a long drive I alternate between the two. The comfort in the grenadier is way better for me than any of the utes that I have driven, and many cars that I have owned. But its all subjective, its like asking “what’s the comfiest pair of jeans? “ What suits me might not suit you. See if you can get an extended test drive….
@johnvaneeden1455
@johnvaneeden1455 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Ronny, you did it for me ! Brilliant review and good that you share all your “surprises”
@TsavoTouring
@TsavoTouring 5 ай бұрын
Automotive journalists don’t really provide much that you can’t garner from a press release. Especially when the manufacturer is shoving shrimp cocktails and beers down in front of them at the end of each and every day of their initial press “reviews.” I think there’s a ton of value in someone buying their own rig for reviews and hopefully consumers will catch on at some point
@michaelhermans4753
@michaelhermans4753 5 ай бұрын
Even when you buy one it takes a year for the euphoria to wear of and be honest with yourself Long term owner reviews are interesting
@robertte3320
@robertte3320 5 ай бұрын
Terrific review with real off-roading assessment - not just the gravel road seen in so many other reviews. I have had a Land Rover Defender for 27 years and it is mighty capable when driven correctly and intelligently. It has excellent clearance, the best approach angles, fantastic balance with the weight being low, and because the body is aluminum and light, gets good fuel economy. It has fantastic low range and pulling power, and with locked diffs has gone almost anywhere I directed it over the 27 years. Occasionally an alternate route was sought since its a Land Rover and not a tracked tank. But what to move on to when sadly the time comes to replace her? Virtually any car can drive along a gravel road, so it was exciting to watch this review by a fellow Aussie truly go OFF-ROAD in Australia. I have wondered for over 12 months about functional clearance and 4WD capability, and this footage and commentary has been very helpful. Thanks mate. Rob - Perth.
@sydneyraj
@sydneyraj 5 ай бұрын
Amazing for a stock vehicle. Looking forward to mods.
@grahamweber2130
@grahamweber2130 5 ай бұрын
Ive had mine since October 23. Did the sand dunes you were on and forgot to put on off road or the centre diff. However, it handled it beautifully. Then i did the trip again at the grenadier day but remembered the offroad. Just great, so easy at Lancelin.
@Trebior1
@Trebior1 5 ай бұрын
I have a Jeep grand Cherokee. same gearbox with the 3.6L V6 Petrol. Full time 4x4 with locking center diff with 4L. lovely car. highly underrated.
@_TenaciousD_
@_TenaciousD_ 5 ай бұрын
And all 8 gears usable in low range too. In many ways the world is catching up to the Jeep WK2
@TheAusGamer1000
@TheAusGamer1000 5 ай бұрын
​@_TenaciousD_ annoying that it's limited to 40kph in low range though, going to see if I can remove that limit somehow
@Trebior1
@Trebior1 5 ай бұрын
@@TheAusGamer1000 would not recommend as the transfer wont be able to handle all the torque and might exploide
@TheAusGamer1000
@TheAusGamer1000 5 ай бұрын
@Trebior1 Limiting wheel speed doesn't limit torque, you can flat foot first gear in low range, that would be the most torque the transfer case and driveline could possibly see. Higher wheel speeds could cause shock loads from track obstacles which could be an issue, but 40ks is plenty of wheel speed to do damage if a wheel stops suddenly anyway. My assumption would be gearbox output shaft speed and transfer case input shaft speed, if they're too high they could cause a failure. From my experience with older Jeeps I'd imagine you could happily do 60-80ks in low range without putting the transfer case in danger.
@Trebior1
@Trebior1 5 ай бұрын
@@TheAusGamer1000 yeah. I get that but the transfers in the Cherokees are known for slipping and if you send it in high gear over a mound on the beach shit can go wrong
@1nando632
@1nando632 5 ай бұрын
Awesome review. Thanks for the extensive test Ronny. Im so impressed that as soon as my lease is up on my current car I'm buying the ute version of this. Wow
@deldridg
@deldridg 4 ай бұрын
Not bad for a vehicle which was only an idea a few years ago. Looking forward to a few model iterations and aftermarket gear. Will be interested when my fourby dies. Great review too and love the country. Makes me want to load up with camping gear and get out there again. Cheers from Sydney and thanks for the work you put into this review - Dave
@concernedcitizen4181
@concernedcitizen4181 5 ай бұрын
We call your corrugations "Washboards" here in the US mate.😊
@Harry_Gersack
@Harry_Gersack 5 ай бұрын
Good work🤌 appreciate you being unbiased and also looking at all the details. A review like this is worth so much more than people driving a car for a few hours on a track prepared by the manufacturer 🤝
@1nando632
@1nando632 5 ай бұрын
I'd love a review of the 76 and the grenadier on a hoist and comparing the 2, looking at the size of the chassis, running gear, engineering etc
@rossb1922
@rossb1922 5 ай бұрын
I'd recommend a spare part availability and cost comparison.
@michaelhains2291
@michaelhains2291 5 ай бұрын
This video is a deep dive under the Grenadier: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmWUoY13jZxji5Y&ab_channel=DirtboxOverland
@1nando632
@1nando632 5 ай бұрын
@michaelhains2291 I've seen that video. I'd just love to see it compared to a 76
@robertjfsoper
@robertjfsoper 5 ай бұрын
Would be great to have a touring / towing review 👍
@capt.stubing5604
@capt.stubing5604 5 ай бұрын
You confirmed my analysis of the rig. Great in many ways, but the clearance is a serious issue for extreme off roading. I’ve had three rigs with the ZF 8 speed, it’s a game changer.
@michaelnugara1
@michaelnugara1 5 ай бұрын
Finally a proper offroad review. Great work Thanks for sharing
@Lyallthetime
@Lyallthetime 5 ай бұрын
2 best reviews of the Grenadier - last week for on road and general impressions, this week for off road. Quality, Ronny, well done.
@CauliflowerMcPugg
@CauliflowerMcPugg 5 ай бұрын
Being 6'5, I often have my left leg bent and tucked under my right leg when driving, no matter the vehicle. Your next installment will be interesting. It's nice to see a real and honest review 👍
@damionlea958
@damionlea958 5 ай бұрын
Ronny, Land Rover started using the ZF8 transmission in the Discovery in 2013 and you could always use all 8 gears in low range in it. Even in the 2005 Discovery with the ZF6 transmission you can use all 6 gears in low range.
@livingworkingoutsidebox
@livingworkingoutsidebox 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting it through these different off road trials. It appeares to have flown through with flying colors. While like any off road vehicle has it's short comings. Being able to go through 8 gears in low range is crazy. 😮 Wouldn't do it consistently I imagine.
@jamesc6363
@jamesc6363 5 ай бұрын
Great review mate. I'll be sticking with my old Defender...
@ianwatson3315
@ianwatson3315 5 ай бұрын
There is a portal axle conversion for the ineos..it looks amazing !
@pauldavies4650
@pauldavies4650 5 ай бұрын
Great review. I asked the question low range gears pre purchase and was surprised when they said all 8 were available. It amazed me then and also that no one else thought this was awesome. 100% agree on relocking the diffs it's a pia, and yes, they can be fickle. Offroad mode (ORM) also disables the seatbelt chimes (and should allow you to move with the door open) ORM turns off at 80kph automatically
@Saint_Vincent1735
@Saint_Vincent1735 4 ай бұрын
The mad thing for me is , this is their First vehicle !! Imagine with time what they could do.
@Levelandspade
@Levelandspade 5 ай бұрын
Mate, loving the videos keep em coming, have been intrigued by this machine and following since its conception, so far it’s meeting the hype
@taurota1554
@taurota1554 5 ай бұрын
Awesome and outstanding review.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
@JRVDH-kq8dv
@JRVDH-kq8dv 4 ай бұрын
Now available on the LC 100, ZF 8HP70 transmission to match a HF2A transfercase from the 80 and 100 series. The best mod ever...
@paulargent1003
@paulargent1003 5 ай бұрын
A good honest unbiased review 👍👏to you .I like the grenadier , I get what it is about but just to expensive for me , I just purchased another jeep a gladiator this time and loving it . On another note when taking to Landy guys and the like it doesn't turn into a pissing comp . Again I really liked your review ,thank you 👍🇭🇲
@jafuk
@jafuk 5 ай бұрын
I've had my Grenadier for 3 months now with 4.5k miles and the front diff has failed. My local agent has ordered a replacement axle. Ineos dragging their heels. 3 weeks and waiting. So much for marketing spiel shipping parts worldwide within 24hrs .😔😔
@adampowell4867
@adampowell4867 5 ай бұрын
If you reckon it's good Ronny, that's good enough for most users. Parts service and reliability are going to be questioned for at least 300,000km. Time will tell
@johndyer3743
@johndyer3743 4 ай бұрын
Extremely good range of info you seem to be thinking of every thing
@mickwhitton
@mickwhitton 5 ай бұрын
Great videos mate. Having owned a 70 series and now a Grenadier I’m stoked you’re playing with it. Hopefully it will put a rocket up the Aussie aftermarket. Need a bash plate for the transmission and/or sump change. And a protective method for the inline diesel filter. I’ve already snagged and ripped mine off on a branch/stick on the trail. Also install the Brown Davis fuel tank, because I’m just super curiou. Nice work Ronny.
@marmite1076
@marmite1076 2 ай бұрын
One issue having seen a lot of vids are the front side radiators. I would look to get the front corner bumpers beefed up to protect them. I've seen two videos where the corner was damaged taking out the radiator + pipework. Both cars needed towing to a workshop to get repaired
@LandRoverDrive
@LandRoverDrive 5 ай бұрын
Great points on the diff-lockers, would be annoying if you only went off-roading all the time. As a overlanding/tourer it would be fine. Turning circle is a bit disappointing, actually a big thing if you are on narrow tracks or gravel/mountain roads here in Norway. 🏔 Great video again! 👍
@3TZZZ
@3TZZZ 5 ай бұрын
I’m loving the surprise and chagrin from a welded on Tojo driver! The ride on four coils, the off-road capability, the axle articulation has, for decades, been better than Tojo leaf springs, in the real (pre-2016) Land Rover Defender. And all with a 4 pot 2.5 - 2.2. The INEOS has taken over the real Defender mantle. ...It looks pretty clear to me that the INEOS Grenadier is the new King of 4x4 wagons. Even the new Tojo with a 4 pot diesel (in the other videos) goes like my 10 year old Defender with 150hp remap; except my Defender has constant 4x4, a centre difflock, and four coils, all just like the INEOS Grenadier. …playing Defender catch up. ...Finally Ronnie! ha ha! 😇 The next step …when is the EV version of the INEOS Grenadier coming out? (you can play a recording of a V8 on your stereo if you like, while you burn zero diesel and it costs 75% less to run on electric, compared to the diesel used previously). And no need for a complex lithium battery set up to run all your gear, the whole car will be a battery. …the charging network is already playing catch up with the EV boom. With solar potential in the desert, EV 4x4’s should already be a no brainer in Australia.
@timolheiser7874
@timolheiser7874 5 ай бұрын
I would like to see this vehicle with a 3 -4.5 inch lift and 37 inch tires, with appropriate gearing for that. A front camera like the Jeep Gladiator Rubicon has would aid rock crawling and decents. It need the low gear cruise control that the Gladiator Rubicon has. But I see it was designed for the dunes and the sand like our Gladiator Mojave was. I like how you put this vehicle through its paces, and you actually know why you are doing it, and see the weaknesses and the benefits of this vehicle.
@aussienscale
@aussienscale 5 ай бұрын
I like the concept they have behind the car and why they are making it, love the modernised old style looks, future models I think will improve on the tech and how it performs and engages, looks like good off road ability, and will not take long for aftermarket goodies come along.
@markelliott6105
@markelliott6105 5 ай бұрын
Great review. I’d call it “reviewed on purpose” all the info we need and none of the fluff we don’t.
@baronvonteuchter1412
@baronvonteuchter1412 5 ай бұрын
I’m 6’4” and a bit (about 1.95m) and have had a grenadier here in Scotland for 6 months. I’ve done 400 miles (8 hour drive) in one hit with no discomfort and the foot bump doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve got the seat position quite high which I think helps, give it a go 👍
@Youtubeuser1aa
@Youtubeuser1aa 4 ай бұрын
That’s a comprised design. No good excuse.
@ZenEndurance
@ZenEndurance 5 ай бұрын
That thing is truly an expedition vehicle. The inside is such a huge box, it's really made for hauling a ton of gear to the interior of Africa and keeping lions and leopards out. Be cool to see a video of it being used for real work, like delivering supplies to a remote Australian research or adventure outpost. We drove my Xterra into the bowels of the Ozarks to an adventure camp hauling gear for 3 for a week and that's where you can really see a badass vehicle in action - loading one up with people and gear to do awesome stuff in rugged terrain. The road down to the camp was bad enough that one day the camp staff couldn't make it there from town and had to radio in instructions. Grenadier could do what the Xterra did and probably fit twice as much stuff!
@benjaminwilley3578
@benjaminwilley3578 5 ай бұрын
After 10 months of ownership you got the review bang on Ronny. Switch selection could be improved. Are you going to look at adjusting the steering bump stops? Or at least a video pointing out if there is some adjustment? You could alter the castor angle? I'm loving mine, it's great for towing.
@clstjam4321
@clstjam4321 5 ай бұрын
Ronny's surprise over the 8 speed ZF has me imagining all the Jeep JL owners saying "yeah so, we've known this for years bro".
@philipparana9225
@philipparana9225 5 ай бұрын
It's the same transmission.
@akar2755
@akar2755 5 ай бұрын
​@@philipparana9225 Yeh, that's his point
@ThisPc0001
@ThisPc0001 5 ай бұрын
It's got 8 gears, why wouldn't they be available in low range?
@_shreyash_anand
@_shreyash_anand 5 ай бұрын
​@@ThisPc0001 Many cars limit gears in low range. The Ranger/Everest for example only give you 6 out of the 10. Don't really know why, but it is what it is
@danielburger1116
@danielburger1116 5 ай бұрын
Probably a reliability consideration. The force multiplication on those higher gears must be great in low range..
@beyondthehorizon27
@beyondthehorizon27 5 ай бұрын
Well, we are travelling in our Discovery 4 and lot of people would say “agh land rover, air suspension etc etc.” but, we have very capable vehicle of the shelf, 8speed auto with hi low range, awesome traction control, don’t have to make rear axle correction, no need for adding arm rest on door card, no need for upgrade of suspension, arms, shocks, audio, seats etc. air is amazing for carrying load (that’s why lorries using it), just AT tyres and we can go anywhere where lots of people with heavily modified cars will not ever get/or get absolutely knackered. And all that saved money we can use for actual travelling. In comfort with amazing capability… fantastic to see toyota “fanboy” beeing surprised about 8speed in low range… Well, 79series is like having 60years old car, yes it could have some advantages but unfortunately they don’t compensate the disadvantages that you need to address and improve to make it drivable and livable…
@DPR178
@DPR178 4 ай бұрын
Sorry but I only like Christmas lights on my vehicle during Christmas season.
@beyondthehorizon27
@beyondthehorizon27 4 ай бұрын
@@DPR178 you mean on your Alfa Romeo?
@DPR178
@DPR178 4 ай бұрын
@@beyondthehorizon27 😂😂 Guilty. Although there is less wiggle room on reliability for a 4wd.
@DarrenMcManawaynz
@DarrenMcManawaynz 5 ай бұрын
Great review. I look forward to looking back in 10 years to see about reliability. Seems to be missing AHC/Adjustable suspension. Other than that - looks like this truck might have potential!
@OutbackOffroadNT
@OutbackOffroadNT 5 ай бұрын
Good to see the 4wd podcast boys on the ep. 👍
@JimmyJames801
@JimmyJames801 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, this car is gonna look really cool modded up. Already performs very well in stock can't wait for more.
@fvandeventer
@fvandeventer 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Ronny & team, good review. I own an IG with the same spec as yours, other than mine has 17" wheels and the petrol 3L Turbo. My vehicle is 1 month old and I am learning with you & the team. I live in Dubai and I have not used low-range gearing on the dunes yet, so far, I stayed in high-range without the center diff-lock. However, you need to press that ESC button again - vehicle has two ESC modes (ESC Off Road and ESC Off). The former is good for harder terrain, to use brake-traction-control (BTC) to keep the vehicle moving, however, in sand there is to many things going on and it slows you down, this is where you need the latter (ESC Off). I think you eluded to this in a previous video.
@DMEU77
@DMEU77 5 ай бұрын
Can you tell me, is IG nice to drive long distance on road? I have to choose between LC250 & IG.
@fvandeventer
@fvandeventer 5 ай бұрын
​@@DMEU77 Oooo... The LC250 has not arrived yet (for us)... I would think that it's not really comparable vehicles in my mind, the target or goal for each vehicle is different. I don't think you can go wrong with either, but they are different. The Ineos is good on road, for what it is. It is big, it is heavy, but it is comfortable. The Recaro seats are amazing, really, it is. this helps with the comfort. This vehicle is build for touring, over landing, as comfortable a possible.
@DMEU77
@DMEU77 5 ай бұрын
@@fvandeventer Most of test had an issue with steering. Is it that bad? I would like to buy IG more then LC. But I would use my mostly on lomg distance road trips with my family. Every tip / advice you can give me is a help for me. THnx.
@fvandeventer
@fvandeventer 4 ай бұрын
@@DMEU77 Its a matter of opinion & perspective. The IG is different from most other vehicle in so much that the steerting wheel does not center as quickly. In cases it does not go back to dead-center at all. Now, it took me about 2 weeks to get use to this. Now, I love the vehicle. Comparing this to my other two vehicles, both these vehicles, to me is twitchy, it moves around the road lanes for almost no steering input, to me these vehicles now are overly sensitive. Compare this to a LC Troopy, LC76, etc, the IG is worlds, decades ahead.
@DMEU77
@DMEU77 4 ай бұрын
@@fvandeventer I knew about steering, but also know that "Old Man Emu" has smthg for it. I have to choose between LC250 and IG. LC got very soft, more SUV then ever. I am just affraid that it will not suit my familiy for long distance travel on road. I dont drive fast, like to cruise. I need a ship not a speed boat.
@davidbutler5114
@davidbutler5114 5 ай бұрын
On the ride character, I have driven series Rovers short and long Toyotas, diesel and gas , jeeps unimogs, Nissan, Isuzu and several others. I did really enjoy the ride in the 110 as the longer wheelbase made it better than the 90. RR Classics were plush , but my favorite is the 91-92 Fj80. Out of the box just an amazing ride, admittedly massively underpowered 3fe.
@BorisEkner
@BorisEkner 5 ай бұрын
Without personal experience but some knowledge I’d say that the 3L straight six with the ZF8 with low range should be a great combination.
@explore_off_road
@explore_off_road 5 ай бұрын
I would be impressed if it just met expectations. I actually dig the Grenadier... Whether i ever get one is pretty slim. But i do wish them luck. So this is a great video... Little short, need more rough stuff footage to watch it do its thing. And after watching this, i would say it did really quite well right out of the factory. Thats not bad, not bad at all. With just a couple parts, it would be pretty much good to go for 95% of people. Couple/few inches of lift and some Mud Terrains... Good to go.
@Harry_Gersack
@Harry_Gersack 5 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised it did good, after all it was designed by 4wdrivers for 4wdrivers. What surprised me was the amount of flex it has. The first time I saw this thing a couple years ago, I already thought clearance will be a problem and that it'd need bigger tires. Would be interesting to see how it performs on 33s and 35s. Because I'm still concerned about the breakover angle
@siebitup
@siebitup 5 ай бұрын
In my experience in most off road vehicles that I've driven clearance is always the first limiting factor. I wonder what lift options will appear in the aftermarket.
@dadventuretv2538
@dadventuretv2538 5 ай бұрын
Great vid. Love that you actually took this wheeling. And that you note the difference. Lol.
@jamessouth4776
@jamessouth4776 5 ай бұрын
A comparison with the 76 would be great
@NickLeening
@NickLeening 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review (and I’m not even in the market for one!) You came up with a great idea on the off road mode as the selector (bet the manufacturer didn’t think of that) keep up the good work Ronny
@Ronny_Dahl
@Ronny_Dahl 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@nirfz
@nirfz 5 ай бұрын
As the devellopment was done by Magna (you know, the guys who develloped and devellop the G-Wagons and many other 4wd vehicles or 4wd systems for most manufacturers) i would be surprised if they hadn't thought of it too, (they got plenty of experience) but probably some regulation somewhere has prohibited that, and so all vehicles have that for ease of manufacturing.
@QuantumAlchemyst
@QuantumAlchemyst 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Ronny, nice video. At last a good review about Grenadier behavior on real all terrain typical conditions, not only a green laning. Good job buddy! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
@marksharman8029
@marksharman8029 5 ай бұрын
Damn! Great insights Ronny. Brilliant information.
@danedge5180
@danedge5180 5 ай бұрын
I have a zf8 in my 79 ronnie mate best mod ever
@mikehooker1963
@mikehooker1963 5 ай бұрын
I'm impressed, didn't know much about it before but have alot of respect for it, the land cruiser killer
@sebbykonyn
@sebbykonyn 5 ай бұрын
A Land Cruiser can be fixed by almost any mechanic in the outback. No way a car without that reliability is the 'landcruiser killer'
@landrover1155
@landrover1155 5 ай бұрын
​@sebbykonyn not any more mate. Toyota are alao a complex beast and require a Toyota computer diagnostic system for much more than the basics. So Toyota dealer for anything technical. At least a dealer is to he found our west versus BMW which is in major centres only.
@chawenhalo0089
@chawenhalo0089 5 ай бұрын
Finally, a real test of the Grenadier! Well done.
@joezephyr
@joezephyr 5 ай бұрын
It was designed for overlanding. Not specificailly off roading.
@HeIaI
@HeIaI 5 ай бұрын
INEOS GRENADIER or LC70 series ???
@markslowen1411
@markslowen1411 5 ай бұрын
The knew that RD was the man to give this thing a serious review TTL❤
@haanjamiis
@haanjamiis 5 ай бұрын
For me (for occational offroad): Too heavy (could have used aluminium is some places), too expensive, steering seems pretty bad for highway/city driving. No support in my country. Speedo is not in front. Not liking the 30/70 split door (small one is too small). Back seats not foldable. Offroad clearance not great. Alltime 4wd system not as good as Jeeps or Land Rovers. (e.g. for driving on ice/snow). I like the looks, the buttons, engine (although power/weight ratio isn't great), gearbox, offroad mode for turning off beeps and bongs.
@Charlie-ec3bc
@Charlie-ec3bc 5 ай бұрын
Good to see a actual proper off road testing ! Watching with great interest not that I can afford it 😂 pretty lucky there Ronny to be lend it and actually test it like it should be !
@jowly1462
@jowly1462 5 ай бұрын
Don't go beyond tow truck range. Nice colab Ronny👍
@steveg219
@steveg219 3 ай бұрын
Looks fantastic - only concern is clearance
@Rob-w5t
@Rob-w5t 5 ай бұрын
Ronny, just found a properly detailed component review by Dirtbox Overland, interesting to see how beefy this build is. Worth a watch if you haven’t already seen it…
@simonhjc
@simonhjc 5 ай бұрын
Very capable. My concerns are 1. Drivers foot position. 2. Size of fuel tank (i did here there is going to be a bigger one) 3.serviceability 4. Parts. 5. Dealer support. Mind you I had issues last year with my 79 dual cab. One created by the toyota dealerships workshop the other a clutch problem from 5000km on. The general manager was an arsehole 💯(and I was their auctioneer), so whilst i still have an 1979 fj45 and a 2023 hilux, id love to see toyota lose sales to a new live axle vehicle (and ive owned 40,60,,80,100,200,300(shitbox) 75,76,78,79 and a hilux lol
@seanchristie7150
@seanchristie7150 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic review and real world testing. Some awesome tech on the Ineos but with tech comes some limitations. Looking forward to a longer test
@michaelbowers5675
@michaelbowers5675 5 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed watching you take the grenadier through various terrain and pointing out its good and bad. Next time you put the thing on a lift, maybe you could show how the undersides look a bit and give your pros and cons about that as well. Thanks for the content. very enjoyable. The comments about the transmission in low range were very interesting as well. I had no clue.
@OldWon991
@OldWon991 5 ай бұрын
Finally a decent 4x4 on a great looking body
@gottfriedmathis7356
@gottfriedmathis7356 3 ай бұрын
A pretty good video. In my opinion the software for the axel lockers and so on have to be done in more practicable way. A software update to solve this issues would be great!
@jehannavarathne1885
@jehannavarathne1885 5 ай бұрын
@Ronny Dahl, when driving an automatic in sand, always use the triprotic (manual function) that's how we do it in the middle east. Driving in "D" in the sand is a disaster.
@Qthefun
@Qthefun 5 ай бұрын
Pajero Sport has a lot of this, would love an Ineos next though
@fahdabdulaziz5067
@fahdabdulaziz5067 5 ай бұрын
I think you are the only one who review cars in sand which is great for us in middle east.
@DrDankoff
@DrDankoff 4 ай бұрын
Any chance you'd repeat this assessment with the 2" lift and 34s which is quickly becoming the go-to setup for those wishing to push the Grenadier.
@pauls4708
@pauls4708 5 ай бұрын
your impressions and test have confired what i hoped and thugh t would be like.I am very surprised that no one else hs commented the lw low is LOW. I had hoped that would be true. I also hoped that it would use all the gears in low range. I thought that its oround clearance would slightly less than ideal. Good work Ronny.I test drove one it was verry comfortable even allowing for the footrest humpThat hump sure feels wired at first. On my test it completely ironed out the corrugations but they wrent bad. It was light years better n coruugations than my Fortuner
@chrisbackhouse5730
@chrisbackhouse5730 3 ай бұрын
The most important thing to consider - an you put a gturbo on it with a 4" snorkel and 3" exhaust running a unichip?
@scottbmedic
@scottbmedic 4 ай бұрын
I had a 2006 Jeep Liberty which was far more difficult to put in 4low. I had to slow to 2 to 4mph and shift into neutral while still rolling and while still rolling at 2 to 4 mph in neutral shift into 4 low then shift into gear
@sab249
@sab249 3 ай бұрын
Bc those things are junk
@MKratz
@MKratz 4 ай бұрын
Great test - thank you.
@shanebrbich5698
@shanebrbich5698 5 ай бұрын
Very impressive Ronny! Great review mate! 👍
@the_curry_cruiser
@the_curry_cruiser 5 ай бұрын
My thoughts are, I'd rather spend $40,000 on a upspecked Mahindra Pikup than $123,000 on a base mode Ineos. I drove both in Lancelin. Yes the Grench has build quality and power. The solid axle setup has pedigree for a tough truck with descent suspension. I'd rather the Ineos over a 70 series based on what you get for the price. Interestingly, my fully loaded Pikup handled the soft stuff just as well and for less than half the cost and if not better comfort! That's a lot of coin for not the equal benefit.
@OutbackOutlaw
@OutbackOutlaw 5 ай бұрын
She definitely handled everything you threw it at…the clearance is an issue…bigger tyres or a lift??
@TheBeatenPaths
@TheBeatenPaths 5 ай бұрын
I'd just buy a higher vehicle, before making those changes to a brand new $90 000 (or whatever it costs) vehicle.
@Sh4dow682
@Sh4dow682 5 ай бұрын
@@TheBeatenPaths 110K here in Australia
@markelliott6105
@markelliott6105 5 ай бұрын
@@TheBeatenPathsIt’s over 10 inches and there’s not much out there higher (stock). Patrol is but has other limitations.
@anthonydentice8180
@anthonydentice8180 5 ай бұрын
​@@markelliott6105yeh prob enough for most people man id be freaking doing hard rocks in expensive unit like that. Thats what old.beast is for
@TheBeatenPaths
@TheBeatenPaths 5 ай бұрын
@@markelliott6105 I just paid 10k for an old Unimog. Lots of them out there. It'll go places a person can't walk, if it dies I'm only out $10k and not $90+. I don't have to worry about scratches or dents. It's win/win vehicle.
@jimmyy9273
@jimmyy9273 5 ай бұрын
Hilux has 6 gears in low range, is it really that unbelievable?
@karlfriedrich7758
@karlfriedrich7758 5 ай бұрын
Really curious how that steering damper bracket is going to hold up. Honestly can't think of a worse place they could have mounted it.
@samartz
@samartz 5 ай бұрын
lift and better tyres, this will be all people need!! I know you want to buy it Ronny 😆
@willito1211
@willito1211 5 ай бұрын
Would love a comparison of the LC vs the Ineos. Which would be more capable
@Ronny_Dahl
@Ronny_Dahl 5 ай бұрын
I would very much too, so lets lock that in...
@stevecrop6264
@stevecrop6264 5 ай бұрын
Best grenadier review I’ve seen 👍🏻
@laszlolenard7222
@laszlolenard7222 5 ай бұрын
Sorted the YT membership. Now to navigate this area.
@ingvarkristjansson766
@ingvarkristjansson766 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic review
@RyuKyuRvr
@RyuKyuRvr 5 ай бұрын
Good review, to bad the American version doesnt get the diesel option...
@syncrosimon
@syncrosimon 5 ай бұрын
I have to say that with a few tweets this could be really good.
@M-Wulff
@M-Wulff 5 ай бұрын
Make a video just explaining the off road system / configs
@donlum9128
@donlum9128 5 ай бұрын
Saw one a few months ago near Chicken Corners near Moab. Awesome looking
@jerrymyahzcat
@jerrymyahzcat 5 ай бұрын
Agreed, gravel and dirt roads are NOT off-road. Off-roading is driving Not on a road. You also have to remember that the low range has nothing to do with the ZF transmission - that’s the choice of transfer box/case that Ineos used. The LR Defender uses the same ZF 8 speed transmission programmed to their specifications and paired with their choice of transfer box/case. I knew about 8 gears in low range. Assumed it was common knowledge with the ZF boxes - why would all gears not be available in both low & high range? They are in Land Rovers. I think a lot of your surprise is that you are used to Toyotas and especially the pretty sub par 70 series. *Correction - You don’t put it into 4WD and go 4WDing. It’s permanent 4WD. All vehicles don’t reset everything when switched off. My recirc stays where it’s set & terrain modes stay set.
@peterj5751
@peterj5751 5 ай бұрын
I never understand why it’s so hard to get more steering lock. My father had a 1980’s Jeep Cherokee with the twin live axles and leaf springs all around and it could turn tightly. Why is it so hard nowadays to build in some more steering lock.
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