Ronnie Coleman's Training Was ON POINT, mostly... (Full Breakdown)

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Geoffrey Verity Schofield

Geoffrey Verity Schofield

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@GVS
@GVS 4 ай бұрын
So, yea...I think Ronnie was great in large part because of his training, whereas with a lot of enhanced lifters it very well might be in spite of it. A lot to be learned here! Anyway, for more about the finer points of getting jacked AF, check out my books, they'll be handy: Book 1: SWEAT (beginners/intermediates) www.verityfit.com/product-page/sweat Book 2: Ring Training For Hypertrophy (ring enthusiasts) www.verityfit.com/product-page/ring-training-for-hypertrophy Book 3: Resurrecting Your Gains (intermediates/advanced lifters) www.verityfit.com/product-page/resurrecting-your-gains-finding-your-muscle-growth-formula Can check the site for full Tables Of Contents of each book. Appreciate the support!
@xrp589baby
@xrp589baby 4 ай бұрын
im pretty sure I could beat up Ronnie Coleman...I bet his muscles aint even real...I bet they are filled with air like Spongebob wearing that muscle suit.. I could just POP his muscles and b3at him up easily
@atdyeam1605
@atdyeam1605 4 ай бұрын
I’d love a video exploring when the trade off between ‘perfect’ form and stimulus becomes an issue. For example you’ve mentioned previously that at some point lifters will use less ROM or order to lift heavier weight because they need the stimulus. I’d be really curious on a video diving into that in detail and I’m sure others would too! Keep up the good work. Probably my favourite fitness channel on KZbin!
@steroidsR4losers
@steroidsR4losers 4 ай бұрын
Roiding Pillman USES STEROIDS! Stay natural buddy!
@DrightJKayorent
@DrightJKayorent 4 ай бұрын
Hi, I tried to buy SWEAT but the checkout system is not working for me, sent you an email. semi-related, what happened to "IMPORTANT NOTE 3:"? Thanks!
@steroidsR4losers
@steroidsR4losers 4 ай бұрын
Roiding Pillman USES STEROIDS! Stay natural buddy!
@Fazlifts
@Fazlifts 4 ай бұрын
4:02 Correction here big dawg, according to historical records it wasn't just 800lb it was actually '800 solid ass pounds'.
@GVS
@GVS 4 ай бұрын
Ah true, thanks, can't believe I missed that!
@zaddy596
@zaddy596 4 ай бұрын
"800 pounds. 800 solid ahh 800 pounds"
@GuillaumeLeValiant
@GuillaumeLeValiant 4 ай бұрын
Haha yeah, indeed!
@gimpycpu
@gimpycpu 4 ай бұрын
Light weight - Ronnie Coleman probably
@steroidsR4losers
@steroidsR4losers 4 ай бұрын
roids
@benbernanke7701
@benbernanke7701 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie who? What's his tiktok?
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie sulek
@Christopher-ko9op
@Christopher-ko9op 4 ай бұрын
😂
@Br0_dir
@Br0_dir 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie Isratael Sulek
@razz444
@razz444 4 ай бұрын
@@C0d0psBruhh i laughed so hard 😂
@Ojthemighty
@Ojthemighty 4 ай бұрын
God help us
@usamakhanfit
@usamakhanfit 4 ай бұрын
13:24 "HOOOOO" - Truly an anabolic quote
@dylanhebert7054
@dylanhebert7054 4 ай бұрын
What I love about all the Ronnie videos is how happy and excited he is about every single part of the process. Eating the gross food, throwing hundreds of pounds around like a mutant, reminiscing about his career in interviews- he just loved every part of it. And he was completely and utterly committed to everything he did, no complaining, no second guessing, just completely engrossed in the process of becoming a ginormous creature. Huge opportunity to learn from that, and it’s a shame a lot of people get so hung up on “muh stretch” or whatever. Yeah, we generally do things a little different 20+ years in the future, but acting like there’s nothing you can glean from Ronnie is crazy
@Ojthemighty
@Ojthemighty 4 ай бұрын
Id say the problem is that we are doing things differently now 20+ years in the future. They knew what they were doing back then, and didnt need some nerd telling them its ok to bench because he said so. Dont even get me started on this hyper range of motion bollocks
@orbarak123
@orbarak123 4 ай бұрын
@@Ojthemighty100000% right bro
@freakied0550
@freakied0550 4 ай бұрын
YEA BUDDY
@Hebra1
@Hebra1 4 ай бұрын
LIGHTWEIGHT
@John-cena6483
@John-cena6483 4 ай бұрын
HOOOO
@danielkantor5693
@danielkantor5693 4 ай бұрын
@@Hebra1 BABY
@soonerborn7603
@soonerborn7603 4 ай бұрын
@@danielkantor5693Ain’t nothin’ to it but to do it.
@nitish2049
@nitish2049 4 ай бұрын
Your quora posts on athleanx saved me from being a noobie lifter. I truly appreciate all the work you did on exposing him.
@eastender_
@eastender_ 4 ай бұрын
What’s the deal here? I’m new to this channel. Not seen an AthleanX video for 10 years.
@einispro3740
@einispro3740 4 ай бұрын
​@@eastender_athleanx is known here for misinformation and bad takes on body fat, essentially keeping newbies as newbies through bad info
@kamo7293
@kamo7293 4 ай бұрын
​@@eastender_he touts himself as a strength coach, when he doesn't know much about strength. faked his 600lb deadlift in a deadlift demonstration video. told everyone to blow air out the stomach when doing squats. calls the 6 to 9% body fat the athlean range, and says 10 to 12 is pudgy. attempted a real 600lb deadlift after getting called out and the form is disgusting, ie he used way more weight than he should have, something a strength coach would not have. really, in all, I'd say watch Alec enkiri and curlean-x for their takedown of him.
@eastender_
@eastender_ 4 ай бұрын
@@kamo7293 Alright. Thanks for the info 👍
@Kalilloko
@Kalilloko 4 ай бұрын
His Bent over rows are a piece of art Magnificent technique and power
@nikolakrastev8880
@nikolakrastev8880 4 ай бұрын
Did we really have a literature class on Ronnie Coleman
@GVS
@GVS 4 ай бұрын
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@Hebra1
@Hebra1 4 ай бұрын
Yeah buddy
@corenko
@corenko 4 ай бұрын
AIN’T NOTHIN BUT A PEANNUT
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 4 ай бұрын
🥜
@Hebra1
@Hebra1 4 ай бұрын
@@C0d0ps 🥜
@Ash-os7fc
@Ash-os7fc 4 ай бұрын
Nothin but a penus baby woooo!
@Mr_Sh1tcoin
@Mr_Sh1tcoin 4 ай бұрын
*peeenus
@JPstudart10
@JPstudart10 4 ай бұрын
This is simply the best lifting channel on internet. It's the perfect balance of high quality information and entertainment. I actually feel a little bit guilty of having these gems for free. Thank you so much Geoff
@GVS
@GVS 4 ай бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the videos!
@AlanThrall
@AlanThrall 4 ай бұрын
Think about how much bigger Ronnie woulda been if he did Starting Strength. Also, hearing you quote Ronnie was hilarious.
@SKINNY_BRUH
@SKINNY_BRUH 4 ай бұрын
The year he competed bald was the year he hoped on sauce.(Also the gyno) Until then he was natty. Crazy Genetics,the best work ethic,hyper responders to roids.. king Coleman had it all...... Ronnie still has an amazing physique,still shredded,still motivating millions.... The GOAT for a reason. People who pinpoint his injuries "well lift those weights and try to stay alive". Everything has a trade off
@GVS
@GVS 4 ай бұрын
Yep I'm inclined to agree, up till ~29 natty, then hopped on, and hair fell off :)
@MrClassicmetal
@MrClassicmetal 4 ай бұрын
@@GVS 😆🤣🤣🤣 A bit off topic. Lee Haney won 8 Olympias as well, and he did it the smart way. His motto was, "Train to stimulate, not to annihilate." Today he's 64 years old, still healthy and working out.
@samueltaylor9935
@samueltaylor9935 4 ай бұрын
@@MrClassicmetal Lee Haney was a different time period. Basically classic physique.
@MrClassicmetal
@MrClassicmetal 4 ай бұрын
@@samueltaylor9935 Jay Cutler had a long and illustrious bodybuilding career, crowned with four Mr. Olympia titles. Part of this longevity is undoubtedly due to his lack of serious injuries, which, in part, can be attributed to his high volume & moderate-intensity approach to training. Cutler is over 50 years old, and still training for the heck of it.
@gsftbeast9761
@gsftbeast9761 4 ай бұрын
@@MrClassicmetalthing is Ronnie would smoke Lee Haney on stage
@rajendraprasathgs7905
@rajendraprasathgs7905 4 ай бұрын
Its a GVS video. Good day fellass
@kasrasayten9047
@kasrasayten9047 4 ай бұрын
i am a fan of israetel , but i 100% agree with you, RP crew really exaggerating the stretch
@zerrodefex
@zerrodefex 4 ай бұрын
Especially for natties, most that I follow when asked about it say "nobody I know stresses over that stuff."
@wigletron2846
@wigletron2846 4 ай бұрын
RP is going downhill. It feels like they're pushing things that really don't matter just to be different and grow their channel
@mcfarvo
@mcfarvo 4 ай бұрын
​@@wigletron2846remember years ago when it was simply not-flashy-or-clickbait basics lectures with Mike? Pepperidge Farms remembers
@namanshukla2854
@namanshukla2854 4 ай бұрын
The smugness of the "science-based" guys is annoying.
@_Zane__
@_Zane__ 4 ай бұрын
I cant stomach dr mike. He always looks like he farted and is waiting for someone to smell it.
@Leothecommenter
@Leothecommenter 4 ай бұрын
When I was a newbie I watched GVS then moved on to Dr Mike and others. Now that the years have passed I watch GVS.
@FunkyHarrison
@FunkyHarrison 4 ай бұрын
dr mike is way too dogmatic
@98danielray
@98danielray 4 ай бұрын
youre still a beginner. this channel is not that old
@Leothecommenter
@Leothecommenter 4 ай бұрын
@@98danielray there's a thing called humor and hyperbole, but sorry if I made you feel insecure. Also 5+ years is not a beginner, not very smart guy
@dailyhacks4634
@dailyhacks4634 4 ай бұрын
Who is dr mike.
@nicksbricks6719
@nicksbricks6719 4 ай бұрын
Damn I was wiping my phone screen thinking it was dirty with that spot in the back. 🤦‍♂️😄
@PraveenJose18551
@PraveenJose18551 4 ай бұрын
Also, Ronnie not only trained through pain, but rarely consulted with doctors, and kept going to a chiropractor when he felt something was wrong. By the time he started consulting professionals, his spine was entirely ruined, and he needed serious surgery. It was never an issue with his training and training mentality, but an issue with how he treated his injuries, especially relying on chiropractors till it was too late.
@Propraj
@Propraj 4 ай бұрын
Relying on Chryopractors and then training wasn’t bad. You do realize if you need external help for your injuries it’s the workout that needs changes ?
@cumquat8320
@cumquat8320 4 ай бұрын
​@@Propraj U are dumb
@lucasgraeff5391
@lucasgraeff5391 4 ай бұрын
@@Propraj it really wasn't bad, thanks to the chiropractors he is doing alright these days!
@Júpiter-p1f
@Júpiter-p1f 2 ай бұрын
​@@lucasgraeff5391ya know that chiropractors are absolutely useless morons how are funiling peoples money for something useless right? There's absolute zero evidence chiropracey even does nothing other than felling nice, if anything, they could have made it worse.
@cloutmaster965
@cloutmaster965 Ай бұрын
Any competitive athlete is going to get injured, it’s up to their support, trainers, doctors and coaches to help when that happens.
@jonathanbean8232
@jonathanbean8232 4 ай бұрын
First Reddit Q&As and now training breakdowns? You're a real influencer, Harry.
@erickg667
@erickg667 4 ай бұрын
12:38, wow thanks man. Your interpretation on that quote really puts things in perspective.
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial 3 ай бұрын
He mentioned something in an interview that it was Shawn Ray that helped him with his programming. The first year leading up to his Olympia win, Sean gave him a plan that he followed and he said it worked best. It was basically a push pull leg split, but the first workout in the week he’d go heavier and the second workout he would go moderate. If you look at all his training videos, you can see that’s what he did for all muscles too. The first exercise, he’d only do 1 working set as heavy as he could for 4-6 reps (first day) or 10-12 reps (second day). For example, his heavy chest day he’d work up to 1 set of bench press for 4-6 reps (this is on KZbin and you can see for yourself). Then he’d do 2 more exercises, and on those he’d do 2 sets, 1 close to failure and 1 to failure with increasing weight on the second set. On his second he, he’d do dumbbell bench and work up to 1 heavy set of 10-12 reps, then do the same 2 sets for 2 other exercises but varying the exercises (doing dumbbells instead of barbells). He only did 6 sets for chest for example, but he would warm up with a bunch of sets and reps.
@synapsy9291
@synapsy9291 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting take on the squat depth thanks
@brennand933
@brennand933 4 ай бұрын
11:40 this point is SOOO good GVS! The RP cult don’t realize that by “exaggerating the stretch” by lowering the weight super slowly with light weights, the muscle is actually getting less of a stretch lmao
@thegoldfish123
@thegoldfish123 4 ай бұрын
There’s a video of his mother on stage with him she’s got incredible arm development even though she’d allegedly never worked out in her life.
@chandansimms9167
@chandansimms9167 4 ай бұрын
Yeah team3dalpha mentioned in a video how males get the X chromosome from their mothers so if your mum had really great bodybuilding genetics don’t be surprised if her sons will as well.
@mcfarvo
@mcfarvo 4 ай бұрын
Do all of the genes related to building muscle and skeletal structure all map to only the X chromosome? Highly unlikely
@chandansimms9167
@chandansimms9167 4 ай бұрын
@@mcfarvo I didn’t say that
@DarkVeghetta
@DarkVeghetta 4 ай бұрын
GVS videos are always great to listen to while training. 💪😎👍
@kamo7293
@kamo7293 4 ай бұрын
same man, I don't even listen to music anymore
@JohnDoe-kz4tw
@JohnDoe-kz4tw 4 ай бұрын
Ronney coleman really put his heart on the gym, he enjoy the good and the bad parts of it, is something we all should do too!
@cartonofmilk6323
@cartonofmilk6323 4 ай бұрын
Hey Geoffrey, great video. I just want to ask if you could ever make a video on how write a program for a client or for somebody other than yourself. I feel as though I have amassed a large amount of training knowledge and experience but lack the skills needed to create a program for somebody else. Thanks and stay well 💪
@mookkss1381
@mookkss1381 4 ай бұрын
9:25 Mike Israetel in shambles
@watsonkushmaster3067
@watsonkushmaster3067 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful...back when lifting was simple
@slee2695
@slee2695 4 ай бұрын
And super genetics and drugs
@brianbachmeier34
@brianbachmeier34 4 ай бұрын
We're all gonna make it brahs 💪
@AlmostlessThanHuman
@AlmostlessThanHuman 4 ай бұрын
I doubt it
@zerrodefex
@zerrodefex 4 ай бұрын
Except for the guy who said that.
@mcfarvo
@mcfarvo 4 ай бұрын
If by "make it," you mean that with proper training, diet, rest, etc., we all can make significant improvements in our body composition and fitness for whatever tasks/sports we train seriously for the long-term, then yes, we all probably can make it
@Christopher-ko9op
@Christopher-ko9op 4 ай бұрын
It's a Zyzz thing
@nocapproductions5471
@nocapproductions5471 4 ай бұрын
Strongly doubt it. Most of us will never be rich or have a mind blowing physique
@albionnika
@albionnika 4 ай бұрын
I was just thinking "man I hope GVS posts another video soon"
@JonathanHuard-mc3up
@JonathanHuard-mc3up 4 ай бұрын
Please please more like this, this is a really good video
@Abdo.R.Mohamed
@Abdo.R.Mohamed 4 ай бұрын
13:30 "Next quote ... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH" 😂😂😂
@Noonesbusiness
@Noonesbusiness 4 ай бұрын
“The deep stretch is overrated” THANK YOU
@Christopher-ko9op
@Christopher-ko9op 4 ай бұрын
I had a reply from someone saying studies showed the lengthened offers a 53% increase after I said it was overhyped. I asked if it was on the aggregate or one study but I've not had a reply yet. I really think it is overhyped though I'm not saying not to do it or it doesn't have benefits but what's the cost? What's the cost in recovery? I don't have the answer.
@tomdesborough9031
@tomdesborough9031 4 ай бұрын
I don’t know. I’ve made a fuck ton more progress since focussing more on the deep stretch. I guess it might still be overrated. I think it’s just talked a lot about currently because it’s new, I don’t think anyone’s saying it’s more important than other factors (other than maybe Dr Wolf 🤷🏼‍♂️)
@Noonesbusiness
@Noonesbusiness 4 ай бұрын
@@tomdesborough9031 that’s who I had in mind and in his debate with NH even he said that lengthened partials would only be, like, a 5-10% difference in your training.
@Christopher-ko9op
@Christopher-ko9op 4 ай бұрын
@@tomdesborough9031 absolutely not saying it doesn't offer benefits but the way people talk about it you'd think it was double or triple the gains.
@DCJayhawk57
@DCJayhawk57 4 ай бұрын
It's not the deep stretch, it's training at long muscle lengths, and probably also using exercises that are hardest at longer muscle lengths. There was a recent study of incline curls vs preacher curls. Even though you're more stretched on an incline curl, the preacher curl gave better results. They speculated that it was because the resistance curve is more lengthened biased on preacher curls. You can use all the bro science you want, the evidence is becoming very clear at this point. Training with tension at long muscle lengths is the most important factor for growth. There hasn't been any study with negative results, so all you doing mid range partials and feeling the squeeze could probably get better results if you just listened to actual experts instead of your echo chamber.
@bogus69
@bogus69 4 ай бұрын
Seeing Ronnie barbell row 315 like it’s 135 is mind blowing
@shades4313
@shades4313 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie was ahead of his time with that quote everyone wants to be a BB but no one wants to lift heavy. Applies so much today when everyone is trying to find reasons to lift as light as possible
@moses9647
@moses9647 4 ай бұрын
His joint and tendons are also completely pulverized. There's a good reason not to regularly move max weights.
@slee2695
@slee2695 4 ай бұрын
He's in a wheelchair now..but ok....with his genes and drugs he could have gotten huge lifting any method
@fincy645
@fincy645 4 ай бұрын
He was also taking steroids to lift unnaturally heavy amounts. Ligaments don't adjust at the rate muscles do on steroids. Natties lifting heavy are gonna be fine
@slee2695
@slee2695 4 ай бұрын
@@fincy645 yes but it isnt the best way to grow muscle
@shades4313
@shades4313 4 ай бұрын
Yes let’s all continue to critique the 8x Mr Olympia 🙄 and no the only thing that really was wrong with him was his back, which he should have never done those surgeries. That’s why he can’t walk due to a fked up surgery
@chrismosleythept2361
@chrismosleythept2361 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks 🙏
@austinhowley3907
@austinhowley3907 4 ай бұрын
The pulsing reps actually feel great on my joints and I been doing them lately
@saad_ghannam
@saad_ghannam 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie doesn't have one in a million genetics, he has one in a billion genetics
@gyorgygajdos1657
@gyorgygajdos1657 4 ай бұрын
He took even in the beginning roids. You don't get that sharp biceps under no circumstances without
@98danielray
@98danielray 4 ай бұрын
​@@gyorgygajdos1657sounds absolutely regarded. get help
@user-en5vj6vr2u
@user-en5vj6vr2u 4 ай бұрын
“1 in a billion” lol is there even a billion bodybuilders in existence?
@royenkenneth4014
@royenkenneth4014 2 ай бұрын
​@@user-en5vj6vr2u he meant the entire population 💀
@gsftbeast9761
@gsftbeast9761 Ай бұрын
Nah he doesn’t plenty of west Africans have similar genes like him
@landerhendrickx3522
@landerhendrickx3522 4 ай бұрын
16 minutes of GVS going over the good parts of Ronnie’s training style :)
@jeremy1755
@jeremy1755 4 ай бұрын
never understood the hate on Ronnie's training. Maybe it's not technique-cyborg level, but it's the majority of the range of motion with some control and close to or to failure. Those squats would be some of the deepest in the majority of gyms I've been to. Additionally, the dude is awesome. He's confident enough to know he's the GOAT without being arrogant; he's not out here telling people "I know more than everyone else and everyone should do what I did" because he acknowledges that he has crazy genetics.
@slee2695
@slee2695 4 ай бұрын
Well he's in a wheelchair now
@98danielray
@98danielray 4 ай бұрын
his training is great. but both the kind of people who criticize him and defend him cant tell the difference between his training and say Branch Warren's (which is pretty awful). they think a little explosive pull to take things out of inertia is somehow the same as having no control.
@theiceman7590
@theiceman7590 4 ай бұрын
​@@slee2695so what? This is about building muscle, not whos walking around in their 60s
@slee2695
@slee2695 4 ай бұрын
@@theiceman7590 lmao..those full ROM guys and more out of less weight guts will still be able to lift in their 60s
@theiceman7590
@theiceman7590 4 ай бұрын
@@slee2695 not a given that they will. Plus didnt Ronnies back injury come from football?
@Volttikoira
@Volttikoira 4 ай бұрын
Just listening to GVS talk about Ronnie is enough to make me want go lift them heavy ass weights. The man is a gym motivation avatar.
@PowerMaze
@PowerMaze 4 ай бұрын
Great video!
@lulagoodwin5372
@lulagoodwin5372 5 минут бұрын
Prime Ronnie Coleman was the greatest bodybuilder of all time. He wasn't just a mass monster; he was aesthetic as fuck. He worked his ass off and took his gifts to their peak.
@anirudhagaram7725
@anirudhagaram7725 4 ай бұрын
Did broski get a new camera? Quality looking crisp
@cglnarcissist5700
@cglnarcissist5700 4 ай бұрын
I noticed that a month ago too
@straight_man
@straight_man 4 ай бұрын
Would love your take on the new RP video about Training Hard Enough.
@paulmcd1982
@paulmcd1982 4 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your videos, you make me want to go to the gym. These 'science based' youtubers really do suck the fun out of it!
@EandEsystems
@EandEsystems 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie's early pictures are mind blowing
@BillLinAZ
@BillLinAZ 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how many scientific studies he read to ensure he was training optimally?
@logomarkz
@logomarkz 4 ай бұрын
Probably did Jeff Nipples iliac fibre vegan pulldown to get his phisique
@thegoldfish123
@thegoldfish123 4 ай бұрын
@@logomarkz no no no. He did Jeff Nipple's one arm bussy rows to grow his lats.
@codycale2526
@codycale2526 4 ай бұрын
based
@KurokamiNajimi
@KurokamiNajimi 4 ай бұрын
Greg’s video on Quinton Eriya was my first experience seeing the impact of elite genetics and why wondering if someone is natural or not is somewhat of a waste of time
@Ojthemighty
@Ojthemighty 4 ай бұрын
That 800lb squat was during his contest preparation while he was cutting down if im not mistaken, let thst sink in.
@gloccry2184
@gloccry2184 4 ай бұрын
Justin Harris was spot on on Ronnie training
@GVS
@GVS 4 ай бұрын
Yep. Crazy how other people are assuming that they know how Ronnie could have been bigger. Intellectual hubris on an astonishing scale.
@ryanhailey401
@ryanhailey401 4 ай бұрын
11:30 I really think the emphasis on slow and controlled reps is hurting a lot of people's training progress. It often times is actually preventing them from getting more eccentric reps and limiting the force at the deepest stretch position.
@johnshadow9310
@johnshadow9310 4 ай бұрын
Great video. At least one more Olympia easy if your ebooks had been around.
@user-dn4lg1dv5v
@user-dn4lg1dv5v 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie 's training was definitely on point. Especially for him. Clearly, it worked amazingly well.
@zdspYT
@zdspYT 4 ай бұрын
Imagine how much bigger he'd be if he didn't squat and deadlift. I'd say 400lbs on stage at the least.
@DevOne561
@DevOne561 4 ай бұрын
Brother Geoff! Can you pretty PLEASE make a Ronnie Coleman style program on boost camp! I’m doing 70s powerlifter rn and it seems very Ronnie like and I love his style of training. God bless!
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't you rustle one up yourself and save a lot of money?
@DevOne561
@DevOne561 4 ай бұрын
@@baronmeduse wdym boost camp is free and so is Geoff’s programs. Besides I’m not good at creating a good program yet😅
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 4 ай бұрын
@@DevOne561 That's interesting, I didn't know that.
@Jean-Pierre.Hortefeux
@Jean-Pierre.Hortefeux 4 ай бұрын
Bodybuilding is more about contracting your muscles with added weight rather than "full ROM". "Full ROM" works well if you are built like a ball. I think every top bodybuilders trains explosive. Jay Cutler has a similar form on DB bench press of shoulder presses for instance, same for Victor Costa, etc.
@sevourn
@sevourn 4 ай бұрын
"every" top bodybuilder didn't do any one thing other than trained hard and consistently. You are way, way overthinking it.
@landerhendrickx3522
@landerhendrickx3522 4 ай бұрын
I’d say this is more entertaining than informational :)
@GrandVoyager92
@GrandVoyager92 4 ай бұрын
Do you think two different biceps and triceps exercises per week is all right or should there be more variation? Also, does it matter much which type of exercise you're choosing, for example mid-ranged or lengthened biased curls, or for triceps mid and lateral biased or long head biased exercises?
@Kyle111
@Kyle111 4 ай бұрын
I’m not GVS (obviously) but I’d say you’re probably good with 2 exercises for bicep/tricep for a while. You should eventually swap them out when they get stale. I wouldn’t worry too much about mid range vs lengthened, since throughout your lifting career you’ll probably end up doing all of them at some point. Not saying it’s not important but I wouldn’t stress over it. Just don’t do redundant exercises if you’re only doing two, like a barbell curl and supinated db curl. Maybe a preacher curl and an incline curl. Since they hit the bicep a bit differently. No matter what anyone else or I say, you have to experiment and see what works for you. You may find 2 isn’t enough or you respond really well to some lifts vs others etc.
@zerrodefex
@zerrodefex 4 ай бұрын
Don't forget the hammer curls, a larger brachialis not only props up the biceps but it provides nearly half of your elbow strength.
@Kyle111
@Kyle111 4 ай бұрын
@@zerrodefex 💯%. Big fan of reverse curls too
@wigletron2846
@wigletron2846 4 ай бұрын
Don't overthink it. Try different exercises and stick with what feels best.
@GrandVoyager92
@GrandVoyager92 4 ай бұрын
@@Kyle111 Thanks. You think if you're doing two curls, one supinated, one hammer curl is all right? I know the hammers still work the biceps, but to a lesser extent and I wonder if you're doing two curls, if both should be supinated
@JustSomeGuy69420
@JustSomeGuy69420 4 ай бұрын
something people are missing on the slow eccentric thing...reverse a weight descending lets say at 1 meter per second is much more difficult than one descending at 0.5 meters per second. You are really probably reversing more weight than is even on the bar because of momentum. Just like when you are running, the forces exerted on your body are much higher than just your bodyweight.
@sengunvolkan
@sengunvolkan 4 ай бұрын
GVS, what do you think of Ronnie Coleman doing DB Kickbacks?
@JackedNStoic
@JackedNStoic 4 ай бұрын
Bro literally had a demon back in the 26 footage
@logangodofcandy
@logangodofcandy 4 ай бұрын
Compare biscuit Oliva with yujiro. Now, compare Sergio Oliva with 2003 Coleman. We know who the baddest man is
@najlepszyinformatyk1661
@najlepszyinformatyk1661 4 ай бұрын
12:21 Could you provide more context about the info in the subtitles? Why would you not get big that way?
@RepaSre
@RepaSre 4 ай бұрын
Do more updated workout videos. Like ultimate back workout etc
@GuillaumeLeValiant
@GuillaumeLeValiant 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie is GOATED
@petruradu7242
@petruradu7242 4 ай бұрын
Ronnie mentality was something else, science based lifters could learn a thing or two
@slee2695
@slee2695 4 ай бұрын
Sure..with world class genetics and drugs everything is possible...including ending up in a wheelchair
@petruradu7242
@petruradu7242 4 ай бұрын
@@slee2695 every winner had world class genetics and he did it 8 times, there's more to that then just the peds and roids
@slee2695
@slee2695 4 ай бұрын
@@petruradu7242 he literally won pro before using drugs..he's a unicorn
@lamontbillingslb
@lamontbillingslb 4 ай бұрын
You make some valid points but then again because of his style of training you could say that’s what led him having all of those surgeries post career. Bodybuilding is marathon not a sprint
@jlowe8059
@jlowe8059 4 ай бұрын
If bro invests in a solid microphone and sound setup his subs will blow through the roof.
@Fazlifts
@Fazlifts 4 ай бұрын
The GOAT!
@AlmostlessThanHuman
@AlmostlessThanHuman 4 ай бұрын
I think his depth on squats was fine his legs were so big it looks like he is squatting high i go down all the way down and it still looks like im squatting high
@colindenny1236
@colindenny1236 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know you did a posedown with Ronnie Coleman
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis 4 ай бұрын
The thing about Ronnie's early 90s pics is. They don't have any obvious indicators of juice. The veins are still smaller than a lot of natural guy's veins. The traps aren't huge. They're big sure, but not absurd like they get on testosterone. And he's not huge to the point of questionability, the real weird is the combination of leannness with size. I do think it is plausable that he is natural aswell.
@levinwitt6622
@levinwitt6622 4 ай бұрын
Big ron!!!!! GreT but only problem was he used more volume than necessary. But it was all good
@ivvan497
@ivvan497 4 ай бұрын
I think people are vastly underestimating the effect of genetics and steroids here. Coleman is just built different. And at the core of everything, I dont think coleman or any builders of the era really knew what they were doing. They were just lifting heavy ass weights because they could, did what coaches told them and gotten big.
@GVS
@GVS 4 ай бұрын
Mentioned both, both are big factors, not saying they're not!
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps 4 ай бұрын
Despite taking all the PEDs, working perfectly, resting is on top tier. I’d never reach his muscularity. - But as a natural I’ll look better for every year than I’m in the gym. I don’t believe we ever completely reach our genetic limit. Almost 3 years in the gym now
@Noonesbusiness
@Noonesbusiness 4 ай бұрын
Bro no one is underestimating his genetics. We all know they’re god tier, but it’s still interesting to examine his training.
@ivvan497
@ivvan497 4 ай бұрын
@@Noonesbusiness I'd say his training can be described as slightly shy of failure, perfect form and juts going hard.
@Fazlifts
@Fazlifts 4 ай бұрын
Genetics were literally mentioned in the first 40 seconds of the video, steroids mentioned within the first 70 seconds.
@kieranmurraysnaturalstreng5913
@kieranmurraysnaturalstreng5913 4 күн бұрын
'roids ain't genetics though in all honesty.👍👍
@gloccry2184
@gloccry2184 4 ай бұрын
Can we get a science based breakdown at 13:25, we might need to get Mike Israetel, Jeff Nipple and the Stronger by Science team on speed dial for a proper meta analysis
@Hebra1
@Hebra1 4 ай бұрын
The ''HOOOOOOOOOOO'' increases tren by 956.7% for 38.452 minutes, increasing Ronnie's ability to activate his muscles according to this EMG study and be more anabolic.
@slee2695
@slee2695 4 ай бұрын
Are those guys in a wheelchair?
@Ojthemighty
@Ojthemighty 4 ай бұрын
His best advantage: he trained super hard The worst part of his training: he trained way too damn hard way too often.
@Mmmmchocolate
@Mmmmchocolate 4 ай бұрын
All that heavy weight messed him up, but sacrifices must be made for greatness.
@lulagoodwin5372
@lulagoodwin5372 12 минут бұрын
As someone who used to be a perfect form nerd I definitely think "perfect form" is over rated now adays. If anything I think trying to do perfect form with slower reps on lighter weight is going to keep you smaller for longer than if you did a bit heavier weight with less textbook form. Theres a lot more ways to do all these different movements than you might think.
@agame-jv6zv
@agame-jv6zv 4 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that the eccentric portion gives more fatigue than concentric. Have you ever considered the possibility of Ronnie being so big because he focused on the concentric so much, thus limiting fatigue?
@GVS
@GVS 4 ай бұрын
I have. Olympic weightlifters do something similar, it's to limit muscle damage. Makes sense, might allow more frequency.
@mohlodingmabapa5941
@mohlodingmabapa5941 4 ай бұрын
Ain't nothing to it but to do it
@RuckRitz
@RuckRitz 4 ай бұрын
A video about Ronnie, without a clip of him saying "light weight, baby" is incomplete 😅
@LeeronCarbuncle
@LeeronCarbuncle 4 ай бұрын
The real takeaway to be gleamed here is that we need to inform infants that the weight we are lifting is in fact not heavy.
@panagiothsstaurou7569
@panagiothsstaurou7569 4 ай бұрын
Man Ronnie Coleman Marius Pudianofsky and Tom Havilland now days was and are true superhumans they all have the body of a bodybuilder and the straight of a strongman and roids genetics gifted now an can be like that
@Chimpertainment
@Chimpertainment 24 күн бұрын
undisputed championnnnn .. the weight
@brianholland5447
@brianholland5447 4 ай бұрын
How dare you disagree with Dr. Mike?! Don't you know he has a PhD in something?
@jackdemoguitar
@jackdemoguitar 4 ай бұрын
LIGHTWEIGHT BABYYYYY
@PollittKing
@PollittKing 27 күн бұрын
1469 Demarcus Roads
@CesarFleites
@CesarFleites 4 ай бұрын
Hello, could you make a video about the real arm measurements of several bodybuilders like Ronnie Coleman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, because I saw a video you made recently where you talk about Arnold's arms measuring 19 inches and not 22 like he said, something that I just don't believe. since devin bernardo is 19 inches and is much shorter in height than arnold and even so arnold's arm looks much bigger than devin, therefore I do think that arnold in his prime was 22 inches, even if you compare him with steve reeves who you claim had 18 inch arms even so arnold in his 20s according to his photos he looked much more muscular than steve reeves which if arnold had 19" arms you wouldn't notice any difference with steve
@thomasruckstuhl9980
@thomasruckstuhl9980 4 ай бұрын
Goeffrey, you are really an impressive guy for your physical journey and your intelligence/humor! Don’t understand why you point the attention of your audience to the most massive guy ever. And to the drugs…
@Skoopyghost
@Skoopyghost 4 ай бұрын
I am a musician. The best musicians take one thing spam it until they do it without thinking. Tell me if it applies to BB.
@jonnathangiant6582
@jonnathangiant6582 4 ай бұрын
Hell yeah
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 4 ай бұрын
Now do Markus Rühl, the ultimate heavy and wrong lifter
@DROGOC0P
@DROGOC0P 4 ай бұрын
I've come to realize my training is pretty much like ronnie's (except the crazy weight lol) should I be worried? I'm 81kg and not on gear so it seems weird I do the same as the GOAT
@GVS
@GVS 4 ай бұрын
Bit hard to say, can probably experiment with different training variables and see how things go.
@ryanhailey401
@ryanhailey401 4 ай бұрын
10:50 Mike is seething
@orbarak123
@orbarak123 4 ай бұрын
He was pyramiding up each set, so for like T bar row for example he started with 6 plates for 12-15 then next set 8 plates for 12-15 then 10 plates and finally 12 plates for as many as he could. For bench press it was like one plate for 12-15 then 2,3,4,5 plates and so on and so on for every exercise. Most if not all bodybuilders trained like that (even Dorian - he just emphasized the last failure set) up until recent years when science guys started to talk about RIR and shit like that
@thomasdawicki141
@thomasdawicki141 4 ай бұрын
His spine also had a full breakdown
@fitoverforty
@fitoverforty 4 ай бұрын
Yes! So good 😂
@kamo7293
@kamo7293 4 ай бұрын
people who say "I don't track my numbers" what're you doing
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