Ronnie Creager Explains What Happened With Blind After 20 Years

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[@tactical1981]

Ronnie on Thank You with Daewon feels like a no-brainer to me.

[@theduvalspaceprogram]

Or business and company with Marc Johnson

[@twuandixon8675]

Oh my god!

[@ciscoak9074]

I love that jerone seems to be angrier for ronny than ronny is for himself lol.

[@mendaciousreality8459]

Jermone is getting anger management treatment in 2023

He’s rightfully empathetic to the way a legend was treated. By a company that’s basically irrelevant now.

[@paulblankenship6737]

There wouldn't be Blind skateboards without Ronnie Creager. He's literally the plys that held them boards together

[@codyjohnhamblin]

*glue lol ply is wood

[@paulblankenship6737]

@@codyjohnhamblin yeah i know and if you read it properly you'd see what i mean. Can you make a board without wood? Just like blind couldn't have made it without ronnie. Its a metaphoric comparison. We all know glue holds the Canadian maple cross grain 7 heat pressed ply skateboard together. Geez man way to kill a mood.

[@n-wordheelflips2648]

@@paulblankenship6737 take it easy on him lol, he's probably not doing well and tryna take it out on you. it's easier to put others down than pulling yourself up..

[@paulblankenship6737]

@@n-wordheelflips2648 i thought i did, I'll try to be more careful of others feelings.

[@ultimatenirvanatribute]

All things come to a end. He was probably considered useless at his age and won't bringing in enough money.

[@wsdamico]

Ronnie's Menikmati part is still one of my all time favorites.

[@Hack_The_Planet_]

Me too!

[@thinglizzy2718]

That entire video is so good

[@starlitshadows]

His part was the biggest suprise for me when I first saw it. I was expecting a great part but he killed it in that vid.

[@algnar5786]

That part was amazing , that whole video was mind blasting !! 🤯🤯🤯

[@AChristian316]

180 over a super tall trash can on flat!? Blew me away

[@newvocabulary]

I've seen this happen to so many people. Not skateboarders, but people who dedicate their lives to a company, only to have the company treat them like a number when their ends come. They say "oh, you're part of our family, we appreciate you so much!" Then they push grandma off a cliff and get a new person to lie to for the next 30 years. The company is not your friend, and never will be.

[@Xboxracer1]

I agree, but I also think if you start your own company, eventually you resort to those kind of techniques. I guess it's capitalism man, you can't feed your family off friendship.

[@Bobbytheman98]

That’s why you never be loyal to a company

[@MrWatchtower]

And for cheaper too sadly.

[@RexDavis415]

Sad but true. Time is your most valuable asset, don't waste it helping someone else stay wealthy.

[@Thedude897]

Yeah never be loyal to company. They won't be loyal to you.

[@xSL1210MK2x]

Ronnie Creager, you're a straight-up LEGEND. One of my favorite skaters of all time. RESPECT!

[@Quesly1]

modern blind are absolute scumbags, they got Yuto to sign a contract in english when they knew he didn't understand it. Shane helped Yuto get out of that contract so he could join April. Now we learn they cut Creager like it was nothing when he is the most iconic pros they've had since the Video Days/Tim and Henry's era.

[@ChangoMC]

Pro skaters should have retirement plans payed by their sponsors. Skateboarding is a high impact sport were pros risk their body's integrity and health. Props to Ronnie, one of the 1rsts 100% consistent skaters I've seen in the scene since I was a teenager.

[@edwardlee9845]

With wat money g. And who qualifys. I agree in principle. But then u would see guys get cut right before the deadline. Then careers end quicker for the legends. If ur getting paid passed 33/35 yrs old. U r getting helped out. Sorry but then is the breaks

[@newvocabulary]

@@edwardlee9845 It's weird when the CEO drives a $500,000 car but "what money bro?"

[@Quesly1]

@@ChangoMC lmao they don't get health insurance, no way are they getting retirement plans

[@edwardlee9845]

Ur right but is that car paid off in full. Big difference. Plus the ceo gets everyone paid on time. The common misconception is that the owners r rich. Most r rich before the company/side project starts. Now equating car leases don’t prove much. Please address the time min and cut off. Plus many skaters move on from their childhood passions and want to do other things too.

[@turtleboypurp]

I can't think of Blind without thinking of Ronnie Creager. That company owes him a lot for being the face of it for so many years.

[@robertosuarez1247]

The way this guy was treated leaves a blemish in Blind's legacy. He deserved so much more love and support for repping the brand for so long

[@masonmcconnell9375]

Agreed man they owe Ronnie huge he was everything to blind imo half the reason I bought any blind boards was cause of Ronnie.

[@leapoldstotch4987]

After that there is no blind legacy just another darkstar .

[@AChristian316]

@@leapoldstotch4987 Darkstar dude. They still make those and sell at Walmart. May even have plastic trucks and horrid bearings

[@euminkong]

@@AChristian316 Decenzo is on it...it is weird

[@AChristian316]

@@euminkong Lol dude Decenzo kills it! Hey if they're paying him who cares i guess

[@GregMuniz7]

I would’ve given him a job at the warehouse or as tm. It’s ronnie creager!

[@aedelus]

If that's business, than it's a very short sighted one.

[@twuandixon8675]

@@aedelus you don't get it.

[@user-xm6ro1ep5d]

@@twuandixon8675 What is there to get?

[@kdsburneraccount1171]

@@user-xm6ro1ep5d get to there is what?

[@LushiTV]

He deserves better

[@eppyz]

I can really relate to this episode. Doesn't just apply to skate boarding, but in life in general. I worked in a line of work for 23 yrs. Got injured, and just couldn't meet the expectations any longer. You ask for something else so you can keep on trucking, and your offered either nothing, or something that pays 1/3rd of what you were making. Next thing you know, your out of work, and think to yourself....Now What??? Your middle aged, and all you know is was you have been doing for the past 23 yrs. Its not a good feeling. Honestly, its scary. So I understand how Ronnie feels to some degree.

[@newvocabulary]

Every time I hear about some guy shooting up his job, this is what I imagine happened. You never hear the madmans story in the news, only the companies story. You never hear what drove him to do what he did, only that he's a monster. And no, you shouldn't shoot up your workplace, but hurt people, hurt people. Our country is damaged, and corporatism is a big part of that.

[@隠れた]

That’s just how business works if u move on to shredding papers they ain’t gonna pay u the same as u were making before it’s just life man, businesses are there for money and u can’t pay someone to do nothing just because he was a solid worker for a long time…not tryna be harsh but that’s business man

[@eppyz]

@@隠れた yes you're right but you're missing the point... like what stated in this interview..the business promised to take care of him... now the debate is what does "take care of you mean" ? Does taking care of you mean offering you a job you can't live on forcing you to quit? So if that's the case it's better for them to just not say nothing at all then isn't it 🤔 from a business perspective you're totally right....and I understand... but when people promise you things and don't hold up there under the bargain???I guess the lesson is get it in writing. But under that condition would you really want to keep working in a place that you needed something in writing like that? Some of these companies are huge they could definitely afford to take care of their employees better. Greed is humanity's worst trait.

[@redrobbo1896]

Thats why every working man and woman in the world needs to unionize. You don't get treated like that when you have a union standing behind you.

[@eppyz]

@@redrobbo1896 I worked for an organization and had a Union... Union was no help. Now a days even with a Union you still may need to lawyer up. Unions give a false sense of security unfortunately.

[@StarburstExpress]

The difference in the volume between Kelly and Ronnie is too much. I turn it up to hear Ronnie and my ears get blasted by Kelly's laugh.

[@kevvymetal666]

Unfortunately Ronnie's head down, humble persona affected his marketability later in life. Same as Jeremy Wray. Those that know, know how good he was and still is. Tech legend.

[@juvedoo99]

And what’s crazy is that those skaters are often the ones that make the most impact. Jeremy and Wray were way ahead of the curb.

[@timboslice45]

Very true. He never had a gimmick either, like "Drunk punk rock guy" or "Hip hop baggy jeans guy" even in this video he has a blank hat and tee. I always thought that was cool about him.

[@MrLTW2009]

No doubt. But people who pay attention to skating know

[@jakeholland6194]

It took so long for tech skaters to catch up to his level from back in the day, like not until pj ladd whl imo, but still that was only a couple guys at that level.

[@dirtbagzrus]

Those Creager ES in the background were my favourite kicks as a kid

[@skateboston420]

Yeah I remember I had the 🐝 color way in 8th grade. I think they were black, yellow, Grey, and silver. One of my favorite skate shoes of all time.

[@thesnapper84]

Seen Ronnie at a few parks… He’s always super coo and chill as fuk.. He’s super consistent and still gots that effortless style, in person…. Legendary RIPPER!

[@jarodmore2836]

I always loved Ronnie Creager’s parts. He was so technical and solid at the same time. Never a lay back or foot drag solid landing on the bolts.

[@MC_1993]

“What if “ used to get me so hyped back in the day. Ronnie creager is a skate god. He should be on plan b

[@Mazalara]

One of my top 5 favorite skate video

[@cresc3ndo475]

Two people that immediately jump out in my head as being done dirty is ronnie creager and jeremy wray. If they filmed a co part and released it on youtube it would break the internet

[@mrpzpdx]

Dang your right!!

[@euminkong]

Wray Brothers Skateboards. RIP Jonas.

[@juvedoo99]

Definitely. Element fucked over Jeremy and instead bet on bam. Look at how that turned out.

[@-solidsnake-]

@@juvedoo99 yeah…. They really bet on the wrong horse with that one…. Bam really never sold boards much lmao

[@crazycarlsadventures5983]

@@juvedoo99bam sold millions of boards though .. like 20,000+ a month …Jeremy wray I love and respect but wasn’t bringing in the $$$$ like bammy

[@Babyhipp0z]

Jeron is such a great addition to the show.

[@ronaldblanco3140]

Most underrated skater in history

[@solidrock6524]

Sitting there Like an OG!! NO LOGOS !!!

[@pabloenrikay]

I noticed that too… everything he’s wearing is just blank lol

[@episodebeats2817]

Business & politics suck sometimes. Especially when there's corporate ownership involved. They just look at the bottom line & don't really care about the heritage of the company acquired.

[@RexDavis415]

Exactly. They want to make profit, they don't give a fuck about the brand. Once the contract is up, it's like the skater never existed.

[@Scrootumm]

From what i can gather from this It seems like the combination of Blinds scumbagness and Ronnies inability to confront them and hold them accountable was the main issue

[@PullUpNoLights999]

I remember in like 2002ish all the homies in the neighborhood started buying boards. One of the homies bought that Ronnie Creager Spin master OG blind deck. I had many decks but my favorite graphic was the Flip Tom Penny Cheech and Chong graphic.

[@richardrockhound6554]

I had that Penny Cheech and Chong deck hahahaha I haven't thought of that in forever!!! Damn I'm old hahaha

[@Hack_The_Planet_]

I used to have the flip cheech Chong sticker, I remember getting it in like 07-08 in junior high at the time and my dad was pissed

[@marcuslee2186]

The spin master board was my first one. Loved that graphic. Kept it for like 10 years after it broke.

[@richardrockhound6554]

@@marcuslee2186 I think my first board was a toy machine with the red monster graphic and indy trucks that weighed as much as a pickup truck axel hahahah

[@PullUpNoLights999]

@@marcuslee2186 my first legit skateboard was a Shortys L deck. The one that Chad Muska holds up to the camera in that line in Guilty video.

[@bak1386]

1 of my all time favorites! Ronnie got that real legend status

[@DonnieEls]

me? I think of COREY SHEPPHARD when i think of blind, his what if part was ahead of its time. Switch tre triple set when prod literally used the same trick for his dunks video in 2021 on the same size triple set. Switch flip front boardinghand rails. His opener in that part the massive tre down that big 4 or 5 block. Such a sick part! You guys should get him on and see what hes been up to. So sad if he stopped skating he was the decenzo of canada once upon a time,

[@Mazalara]

James Craig's and Evan's part were my favorites on the What if video

[@DonnieEls]

@@Mazalara James Craig with the custom rap song about him and blind is unforgettable! Lol hardflip carlsbad!

[@Mazalara]

@@DonnieEls that video was gold. I loved the intro with Hosoi too 🤣

[@Mazalara]

@@DonnieEls Corey's part was definitely the right opener part

[@DonnieEls]

@@Mazalara facts and Carlos Ruiz. The only part I've ever seen from the guy and he did the most gnarrrrrly hubba ledges ever 😂

[@JoshP81]

This guy is still one of my favorite skaters.

[@acmtexas3027]

Creager Has been ONE of My Fave's My Entire Life. Good to see Him on the Show. Awesome! GREAT Episode Guys, love it🤘

[@dylanfuller8146]

The blind what if video was my first skate video , brings me back to the good old days

[@luckymanham302]

There was a lot of good old days of skateboarding before 2005…

[@wizdomtrust1596]

Big-ups Ronnie! Truly a humble professional.

[@williamchastain2749]

How stylish was this cat .. love him

[@michaelc.682]

Kelly landed a job with Es. Which is great. He should however refrain from speaking on this matter and be silently grateful for the luck tossed his way. As for Creager, Kelly should push for him to be on the Es team. Hell, they just put Penny back on. Creager is 100x better than Penny. No dig at Penny. Age gets to you. But Creager still has mad skill.

[@richardrockhound6554]

Yeah man Penny was something special..... I could watch him skate mini ramps for hours.

[@Hack_The_Planet_]

I still bet penny is top tier if he actually tried and put out some actual content

[@souluti0n]

@@Hack_The_Planet_ He‘s just 💨

[@souluti0n]

Absolutely, u can’t hold job A for a certain time and then expect to be given a new job B without qualification for it when you can’t fulfill job A anymore. Welcome to the real world 😎

[@timboslice45]

Penny is more marketable and has a waaaay bigger following, therefore more $$$

[@PapaPerk360]

Nine Club finally at 100,000 subscribers!!!!!!!! Good work CROB! You too Kelly ! Get it in! Dorks.

[@killachronic9021]

Bro my favorite board was the Ronnie Creager Munchies deck.. It still is to this day fr..

[@edochoa3452]

One of the best skater ever !!!!!

[@justinamato2212]

One of my child hood and present favorites

[@kdsburneraccount1171]

just watched Clean Cut. this dude is Awesome.

[@KiteAndKeyProductions]

This dudes handboards got me into skating.

[@caterpillakilla]

Kelly comin thru as a company man hahah

[@skatehabitat711]

What a chill dude, my blood would have been boilin.

[@IncelopeMori]

Blind’s dropped the ball with SO many of their riders constantly throughout the years, I’m honestly surprised they’re still around.

[@andofb]

They have some great riders but are no where near the level they should be. Blinds used to be so sick.

[@From96TilDeath]

They even lost Yuto, after keeping him am for a while, to April Skateboards and now look at him

[@therestingmitchface6241]

I remember him starting Ecetera and High School Dropout Brand. I think I still have some of the stickers he sent out

[@Unogamingchannel]

yo, Kelly, i'ma need that blue and grey colorway Creager reissue as soon as possible dawg. you can't put that shit on the shelf cause he's a guest and not give the world what it wants. you're straight ripping him and Muska off dropping that swift 1.5, we all know it's the combo of the two shoes.

[@隠れた]

Wats the story with Kelly and eS is he involved in ownership/management or wa she just a long time sponsor with ties to the main guys?

[@StraightUpOG]

How could Blind do him like that? He's a God on a skateboard!!!!!

[@Thedude897]

Thats the problem. Blind is about the business. He doesn't have the business background

[@rossmoniz5032]

Has his es shoes one of the greatest shoes I ever skated black with the red pipping color way

[@TheoRhoades]

I feel as though one must create their own brand to survive nowadays. Skateboarding has excelled to another level nobody can wrap their heads around. At the end of the day...business is business. To make money in skateboarding is exceptionally difficult.

[@AdventuresInSkateboarding]

20 years would get you a full military retirement. They should send him 50% pay for life. But I guess 50% of no salary is 0. Maybe average 3 years highest board royalties.

[@idoskateboarding2785]

i cant believe they would do ronnie like that smdh

[@jonathanboese6818]

Such a sick guest to kick it back off! One of the best ever.

[@seanjamesjawns108]

When Massi flowed me that second hand shoulin board. That was was awesome. Even though it t second hand it made such a difference for me. I remember city hall first try up the three 50ed the bench kick flipped the six and collected my props from the groms lurken from the steps felt good . Once again thanks Massi.

[@greenlit802]

I loved blind and darkstar board art back in the day.

[@mikekaplan8497]

My Ronnie creager blind tech deck collection in 🔥🤘🏼 good shit man

[@thesmitty83]

Ronnie Creager could have made Tony Hawk money if he had an ego, but fortunately he was humble; cause at the end of the day money isn't shit. Money will laugh at you while you're on death's doorstep, knowing you were a fool for caring about it so much.

[@stefanopedro76]

Can someone please explain me how it's possibile that a Legend like Ron Creager is have no one kind of sponsor today....Hey he's still skateing and dropping bombs every single day!!!!

[@GeorgeZimmermen]

He’s old. It happens to every important person in sports. The newer skaters don’t even know who he is and the ones who remember like me, haven’t skated in almost 20 years

[@shutupcnt5222]

The first board I got from a skateshop was the Creager golf club back in 2002 -2003 it was one of the best boards I had back then Sad to hear how they treated him fuck the executives at blind for doing him dirty like that

[@FALL-LAFF-7477]

So, from this interview, Blind already lease 3 pros: Ronnie after 20 years, TJ(?) and Yuto before he got pro on April. Wonder if these happened because mismanagement or maybe a wrong way to doing a regeneration...

[@twuandixon8675]

I've literally been salty at Blind ever since they dropped him 😂

[@euminkong]

Me too.

[@Ib3N1nja]

They owe Ronnie so much mab

[@sima4362]

100k subs😍

[@isthatyoumax8397]

Ronnie is the reason i skated blind for a min or two

[@MoDuncanjr]

I’m pissed off hearing that… him being my favorite skater period and how loyal he is to blind and just skateboarding I’m feeling a certain way being on a smaller company from Texas makes me think wtf is gonna happen to me being on a sponsor for 20 years being loyal and not pro. 😔 this isn’t what skateboarding should be honestly and it sucks and it makes you not wanna be sponsored truthfully. Like what had skateboarding given back to guys who given their all to someone who was supposed to be family to them and not asking for much. I’m humble like him as he is the greatest so I don’t have a single chance is what I’m feeling after him being a humanitarian to skating from the 90s till right Effin now smh 😡 greatest if not one of the greatest

[@jamespritchard5435]

Can’t wait for his stop and chat!

[@Freskoeh]

I still got an old school creagor techdeck blind dude with turntables

[@Juliano_DJOL]

He supported and built that company into what it is now and then didn't want to keep supporting him later when he needed them. Honestly it's probably a good thing he left cause it sounds like they suck!

[@flatgroundtv7097]

Ronnie Creager is a living legend. How could Blind Skateboards do this to him?. This is awful!.

[@Dracula_sb]

My first pro board was a Ronnie Creager Blind 💪💪💪

[@deveron372]

It's life. It goes on

[@4vendetta1]

Never had that much respect for blind tbh, they were one of the companies that seemed to be trying harder to appeal to non skaters... Similar to etnies. But now we are seeing this shit come out and it just makes sense to me.

[@thethe3244]

The graphics definitely took a turn towards goofy, cartoonish type things. But I believe that was more an effort to have Blind try and replicate the huge sales that World had with Flameboy and Wet Willy. Same artist, too.

[@ShredHouseGaming]

Legend.

[@KyleMonizMusic]

Blind always had the coolest graphics

[@CanadianskateboardChronicles]

Dwindle in general has done so many skaters dirty

[@jamescastelhano4117]

Man fuck blind!! I always loved ronnie growing up!! So sad to hear they did him dirty like that!!! I will from here on out boycott all dwindle company's!! Long live ronnie creagers legacy!!💯💯❤❤👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼🏆🏆🏆

[@christopherwilliam2542]

I really hope blind makes this right they have Olympic skaters on their team. They survived the dark days because of Ronnie. Now tj and Jake killin it please blind watch this video n make things right wit the legend

[@NzTings]

My first pro model 😎

[@dylanboland4784]

Legend!

[@NShewchuk]

It's too bad, he was THE FRANCHISE for so long, he was the entire brand and carried it through some tough years. You wish they would have been able to do right by him better.

[@theroadless]

Man, that's nonsense. He dedicated over 20 years to that company. They should find him a role somewhere within the organization. Even if he doesn't have the right skills or qualifications, he could start as an intern and learn gradually. It seems like they just didn't want him causing any disruption. It's unfair because he supported that company for so long; they should let him keep earning a living.

[@SAA_All_Day]

Ronnie Creager RULES OK

[@johnnyboy2653]

You can't rely on someone else saying stuff like they will be there for you when the time comes because maybe the guy who said that will be dead, maybe the company won't even exist anymore, life change so fast nowadays. Sucks for Ronnie tho, not only was he a big part of Blind but he was also a big part of skateboarding in general. He should be a team manager or something, he looks like a great guy. Hope he was able to save some money and I also hope eS will revamp his shoe and give him a percentage.

[@bradjames8256]

The first skateboard that I bought was a Creager Blind. Probably 1999

[@ACOG_batteries]

Why don't you put ad rolls in this video?

[@ChristianRaymondFilms]

LOVE YOU RONNIE ❤️❤️❤️ #DEDICATEDTOSKATEBOARDING

[@marlonavitia3594]

what are board royalties

[@pabloenrikay]

Board royalties are skateboards that sell with your name on It… this money or royalties, are supposed to go to the pro skater.

[@dollabill167]

Fuccccc blind!! They should have gave Ronnie a job. He carried that company for years.

[@Rob-in-hood]

Well f*** blind! I’ve been in the game since 98 and never thought they would do him like that. Ronnie is one of my top top 5 favs All TIME not jus tech top 5 ha. Anyway that’s low, imagine being a low paid pro athlete your entire life then one day ur old, No resume in life and gota put bread on the table… they should start a legends company for any “retired pro” 🤷‍♂️

[@SkateOrDie666]

0:05 lol

[@anthonymiller619]

Sounds like to me Blind was just pushing Ronnie out the door to get rid of him.

[@pabloenrikay]

Pro skateboarders….. SAVE UR MONEY, and INVEST…. These companies won’t be there for you after it’s all said and done. 💯

[@Hjgfrfjufdetivjiu]

Never be loyal to an employer. Ever

[@lantzmania2069]

Ronnie Creager has the best Switch Frontside 180 in the game! #CargoPantsBucketHatSteez

[@billybobjosh]

I dont think ronnie creager was assertive enough

[@rodrigoibarra2054]

man... getting old sucks...

[@juvedoo99]

Damn Blind did Ronnie dirty and now enjoi did the same to Louie. The world camp (now dwindle I suppose) really dropped the ball…

[@ripplerfx]

The fact the skate industry can drop someone like dust and give no fair justice to someone like Creager after a 20 fucking year commitment makes me somewhat grateful I didn’t fully pursue a paid career in skateboarding.

[@musicfeedsthewhole]

100k subs tho!

[@Rightwingarmy]

Anyone know what happened to Corey shepherd ?

[@frontsidebackside2107]

Not liking Kellys energy trying to defend them…

[@McFlurryMachineIsDown]

Everyone sees it from a different side unfortunately.

[@Hack_The_Planet_]

He’s human, being defensive of your “bread” makes sense

[@frontsidebackside2107]

@@Hack_The_Planet_ I’m human I don’t defend bullshit for my “bread”..or my “butter”

[@paulbrendanawicz4609]

@@frontsidebackside2107 Do you talk shit in public about your boss/company? Maybe Kelly should be more careful with the way he commented with stuff, because Creager was clearly sad talking about it.

[@frontsidebackside2107]

@@paulbrendanawicz4609 lucky for me I don’t work for scum bags…

[@julienbaeren4931]

This is the world we re living in, but a guy who gives so much joy to so many skaters, kids, anyone, for such a long time, should just get paid the rest of life without having to do anything productive. He should just be able to do whatever he wants, it will for sure be postive. How the f... a skater should have to plan his retirement. The companies have to anticipate what obviously will always come

[@deloused44]

Bill weiss rules!

[@ryanlea750]

Dude this bummed me out! That sucks