Ronnie O'Sullivan vs Allan Hopkins | 1996 Mosconi Cup

The Rocket Ronnie O'Sullivan takes on Allan Hopkins at the 1996 Mosconi Cup!
#MosconiCup #RonnieOSullivan #Ronnie

[@Padgestic]

It's not just me who comes back to watch these Mosconi Cup matches lol

[@nuntana2]

Nope ;-)

[@rickvassell8349]

Allen is a great guy. I brought my 6 year old son to an exhibition by him in the mid 80s. He brought my son up and set up a shot for him to win on the break. He hit them flush, my son will never forget.

[@imaclown12345]

that’s so cool, wish i was as fortunate!

[@imranramjewan6470]

Imagine Ronnie didn't even know this game when he came to replace Jimmy White that year and he still dominated the top 9 ball players. That shows the superiority of the snooker fundamentals.

[@AlexZander688]

But Snooker players know how to run six color balls in order. Not much more difficult to run three more. And yes, Snooker fundamentals are stronger. You can't cheat those round pockets. And time has shown that O'Sullivan would become the best Snooker player of all-time.

[@AlexZander688]

And in 2006 Johnny Archer thumped O'Sullivan in an 8-ball tournament. And Reyes ended up winning that major tournament. Too bad the $$ backer and tournament organizer was a con man failed to keep that tour going. ....How many times has O'Sullivan been fed up with the folks that organize and run the Snooker tour? Takes more than great Snooker fundamentals to win American type pool. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmeof6F6lpd2fdk

[@riffbw]

And he played with a Snooker Cue instead of a Pool Cue. The heavier pool balls means pool cues are heavier to accommodate the added weight. When he has to hit for power, he's got to massively compensate for the mass difference and it's amazing he hit some of the shots he did.

[@Occupuyourspine]

using ronnie to make yer valid point was not fair as he is one of a kind

[@jimmynich4791]

@@AlexZander688 The break and jump shots are so important in pool, pots are easy but there's a lot more to pool than just potting balls. As the pockets are so big the safety exchanges are tricky. There's variations of pool much more difficult than 9 ball or 8 ball and I think snooker pros like Ronnie have a lot of respect for pool players and there's snooker players who have made the switch to pool for whatever reason and the fact snooker players like O'Sullivan, Davis, Whyte, etc took the time to go and play some competitive pool says a lot about pool. Could be going to play pool helped O'Sullivan when he was getting fed up with snooker and the schedule travelling around the world to play in more and more tournaments every year.

[@marcosrsdeoliveira9657]

☄☄⚡🚀🚀Ronnie O'Sulivan. THE BEST EVER!

[@robmckennie4203]

Hopkins had to commission nasa to engineer his chalk to get it that squeaky

[@finjones7535]

Commentator: The rest of the balls look as inviting as...... Me: (holds breath expectantly) Commentator: ......a field full of Easter eggs. Me: (not disappointed)

[@pauloagra9084]

Sullivan break and play with a Snooker cue in a 9 Ball match damm the guy have some balls what a legend 😂😂😂

[@johnsheridan8281]

he wouldn't of known the difference at the time he grew up in snooker halls, didn't play pool

[@blu3collar949]

He hit the 6 before he hit the three on the foul at 49:32. These announcers are blind.

[@raydoherty5419]

Spent a night out at a bar playing locals with Allen Hopkins back in about 2003 just outside Philly, great guy and of course a wonderful pool player!! Very cool to see this

[@mackmcmillan9905]

I'm not being mean spirited, only curious - Was he this herky-jerky all the time? Sort of reminds me of Charles Barkley's golf swing.

[@GrrMeister]

*Funny you should mention that as around that time and on the campsite with a few Feldschlößchen Lagers, was having a chat with other similar aged (early 20's) Germans, and one asked have you been to Köln before, I said no but my Dad did, "How did he like it?" - I don't know he just dropped his bombs and said let's get the Hell out of here - They all rolled over laughing !*

[@dellett5269]

Didn’t even really know the game, just mauled them with overwhelming talent.

[@user-cs6wh4ol3f]

I only jus started playing pool and I’m finding these old school games and players so much better and entertaining than todays

[@nuntana2]

Today's are more formulaic and professional, which, while still good to watch, is not as much fun.

[@jacques8277]

Tony blair's interview of Earl strickland at the beginning was really good!

[@valentinagajic7559]

OMGGGG THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! More please :) From 1994, and rest of 95.96.97.98.99....... :DDDD Awesome!!!

[@winnie1983]

49:30 apparently the referee is blind even when it was replayed in slow motion, before contacting the red he had moved green.

[@davidmellish3295]

No the referee called foul as soon as he hit the green ,before it hit the red 3 or yellow 1 ball,it's the commentators that are blind and who thought he hit the red 3 first. Everyone else including the ref,the players,the audience and us watching on tv/KZbin etc know the foul was on the green

[@frankberryfilms]

It always makes me smile when they identify positional play as the thing snooker players WON'T have under control... They seem to always say "Course they are great potters, but what about the POSITIONAL play?" -- Position, you say? Have they got any idea of the positional ability and control required to make a 147 break? It is unfathomable. It's like saying, "Sure, Tiger can drive, but what about the bunker shots and the putting?" -- He can do it all. Just like Ronnie can do it all on the table... They are clutching at straws.

[@poppajretired410]

Ronnie’s position play is second to none.

[@goegoensaja6397]

Damn...no debate.. Ronnie is a monster...

[@stv8361]

without any doubt

[@poolmagic2023]

OMGGGG THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@_diorrr._3045]

Mate as if earl said pool is basically harder than snooker. Get in the bin

[@mackmcmillan9905]

I'm a Yank and not on any level of Earl the Pearl - But the man's full of shit! I bet he'd lose his shit and walk out before one rack was done... Put him against someone methodical like Ebdon and tell Ebdon to quit playing so fast.

[@mistatrollge3184]

@@mackmcmillan9905 An American calling himself a Yank? Quit LARPing.

[@mackmcmillan9905]

@@mistatrollge3184 I called it that way BECAUSE the snooker audience I see by and large are BRITS. I'm speaking about myself as THEY would. I figured that was obvious. But nah, I MUST be so crazy I'd LARP on a YT snooker video... I'm retired USAF living in Tucson AZ. I've no reason to be a troll unlike others who can't just scroll on past. Enjoy what must be a fun existence in Hatersburg!

[@stv8361]

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[@ReganMcKee]

Im an American, but I can absolutely understand how Earl can be annoying. Someone could ask him a simple yes, or no question, and he would write an entire novel without even having an answer. By the end of his rant you would've forgotten what the question was to begin with. Nevertheless... this doesn't take away from the fact that he is one of the best pool players to have walked the Earth. Even now he STILL competes on a pro level. Kind of inspirational really..

[@oicism]

If ronnie had played 9 ball I don't think earl or Shane would have had as many US open titles honestly. The guy rivals earl for shotmaking ability and speed around the table.

[@neuvocastezero1838]

45:45- I'm surprised Hopkins didn't just kick at it cross side. That's a pretty high percentage shot compared with trying to bounce the cue ball out of the back of the pocket.

[@stv8361]

too afraid of a O'Sullivan come back so he had to rush to pot the 9 fast... hahahahhaha

[@NoJusticeMTG]

Unbelievable Jeff!

[@ru55ells]

49:45 "just contacted the red 3 (ball) prior to the one ball" So are we forgetting the green?

[@marginality270]

I'll bet a lot of us were wondering that same thing. Plus, it isn't at all clear to me that the cue ball did strike the three before the one.

[@paulsmith1707]

Yes, he hit the green first, they showed it twice. "Like a bulldog with a rat." ?? That'd be a terrier you're thinking of.

[@jaybe2908]

I think the commentators were the only ones who didn't see it hit the green.

[@sammey1919]

Ref called foul before cue ball hit red or yellow.

[@chriscolabella880]

Thank you! Was wondering how that was called a foul as was sure the 1 was hit before the 3.

[@maggieandjim1934]

HOPKINS SAW THE WEIGHT CONTROL AND ABILITY TO HOOK AND HOW EASY HE WAS POTTING THE BALLS AND IT THREW HIM OFF HIS GAME.........RONNIES TALENT IS INTIMIDATING

[@taufikefendi6204]

Ronnie's cue ball positioning is on the next level.

[@JamesWilson-zy2cf]

Give ronnie o'sullivan some respect as 20 year old playing top American 9 ball player's of there time beating 2 of the best if ronnie o'sullivan practice playing 8 ball and 9 ball he could be up there with the best today and gove it a go dont surprised to see ronnie play on mosconi cup again in a few years

[@akshayjaggi4686]

Commentator said ronnie is going to find difficulty in controlling the white 😂😂😂 Plus he said he will be taking notes...😂😂😂 such a fool

[@leeaheron1]

‘Do you think you’ll lift the cup on Sunday night??’ ...let me talk about me for two minutes. Typical.

[@blueboy189]

I saw a clip of Earl the other day telling his interviewer that he was "one of the greatest athletes of all time". I spat my tea out over my phone 😂

[@leeaheron1]

@@blueboy189 Hahaha, he's one of a kind that's for sure. In his mind Usain Bolt should be passing him his chalk ... hope your phone survived :-P

[@payco64]

Strickland lowkey flexing

[@blanca5050]

Strickland talking smack got beat by Ronnie same tournament lol

[@CynicalMiracal]

🔥🔥🔥

[@istvanpataki9820]

I love Sid Waddell's commentary! :) His excitement is entertaining!

[@marginality270]

That makes one of us.

[@neuvocastezero1838]

"Ohh, sweet as a hot needle..." I would like to hear the rest of that simile.

[@paulsmith1707]

Ronnie doesn't have the all round game? There has never been anybody with better cue ball control. Snooker is for adults!

[@TAROTAI]

Efren Reyes

[@therealivan398]

@@TAROTAI Isn't he dead?

[@christopher19894]

What would happen if a pool player took on Ronnie in a snooker match? I can't find any of those videos...

[@scotty193]

I tell u what would happen annihilation.........Earl Strickland one of the best Pool cueists in the world would struggle to muster a 40 break...................I myself consider myself a very strong Pub league Pool player. On a snooker table if I make a 20 break I call it a decent break.

[@po4RP20361]

It would be a disaster, as it has for lifelong professional snooker players, he truly is incredible and genius is a fitting descriptor as so many have siad over the years

[@MrJonny2324]

They couldn't even beat him at their game, it would be absolute destruction if they ventured into Ronnies world.

[@robdetuinman2]

Efren Reyes took Ronnie o'Sullivan's money after beating him on a snooker table

[@robertwright1317]

@@robdetuinman2 Ronnie o'Sullivan was aged about 16 at the time and gave Efren reyes 25 points start

[@TAROTAI]

Ronnie is having a laugh at torturing Hopkins

[@wilpog]

Bei tempi

[@dandyshaquille]

Ronnie "The Rocket 🚀" O'Sullivan 🙌🏻

[@GarethRiffStevens]

41.04 .. what, it's my shot lool 🤣🤣🤣

[@formerlybernard6460]

Lets just say. Ronnie. A 5 minute 147. Nuff said. Pool is just Disney.

[@poolmagic2023]

Just Allen , isn't Allan :D

[@carloscervantes911]

44:45 Ronnie realize he was Peter Ebdoned, lol

[@diegoschwammkopf1141]

I don't think most of you don't understand that this event was held in 1996 when Ronnie was 21 y.o. Only time travellers and fortune- tellers knew what he will have achieved by the 2023.

[@timothyduzenski1386]

Its kinda funny. The brits assume that anything other than snooker is an american game and that Ronnie is really taking it to the americans. But it is really pretty equal here because Hopkins was known for straight pool. Not 9 ball. Just like you dont want to play Efren in Rotation or One Pocket. In 10 ball you have a better chance. Same here. 9 ball is not the best game for either of them.

[@MrScottCarson]

It is funny how me as a Canadian played both snooker and pool and it definitely takes more skill to play snooker. Watch the O’Sullivan / Strickland match.....The true arrogance of the American showed through.

[@robdetuinman2]

I played both as well and I don't think either is harder or more skill are needed or anything. That all depends on the level you're playing it imho. They both have their charmes though.

[@AlexZander688]

And a great many players from the U.K. and Europe choose to play American pool or Chinese 8-ball pool. Snooker is a great game and has the highest paying tournaments, but it is not the be all end all of pool. Gareth Potts, Jason Shaw, Mick Hill, Zheng Yubo, Yang Fan, all great players that could have gone into Snooker if they wanted. Many players just prefer a different table and game.

[@davidmellish3295]

@@robdetuinman2 snooker tables are much harder ,forget the actual games of snooker and pool and the different tactics etc. I'm talking just about the tables,they are a lot bigger and the pockets are a lot smaller in relation to the size of the balls. ( obviously the balls are bigger in pool,but the pockets will take two balls and the snooker pockets will take 1 ball with a little space either side ) Pool tables except the balls in the pockets so much more,you don't have to be as accurate, the ball can hit the rail and still drop and you can cheat the pockets. In snooker you have to be more precise, hitting the middle of the pocket and if it hit the rail and bounced it will never go in like on a pool table. Pool tables even have diamonds marked on them to help with aiming/bank shots etc Say what you like about the games themselves being apples and oranges and there is more to pool than a lot of snooker fans realise BUT the FACT doesn't change, a pool table is a lot easier than a snooker table. That's why all the snooker players can play pool,they may not beat the pool pros as they don't know the nuances of the game BUT they can still give the pool players a match,whereas not to many pool players can play snooker. When snooker Pro go over to pool they can compete but when pool players try going to snooker as a few have ( Steve mizerak, massey even Efren had tried ) they all got DESTROYED at snooker . If you can pot at 12ft into small tight pockets then it's no trouble potting at 9ft into giant buckets. If all the pool pros played pool against the snooker pros they will probably come out on top BUT the snooker players will have given them a game ,with some winning BUT if they played pool using a snooker table with snooker balls ( just colouring the balls) I bet the snooker players would come out on top ad the pool boys would struggle on the snooker table

[@robdetuinman2]

Just like all the snooker boys would struggle on a pyramid table. Table same size as a snooker table but with bigger balls.

[@THE_CHOAS_ENGINE]

makes no sense at 45:00 why Allan decides to do that low % circus shot when the object ball is hanging over the pocket and all he had to do was kick to the opposite side rail and come back and tip the object ball in. I've done it many times for me that would be about a 40% shot but for Allan you'd think it would be a 80% shot. Makes ZERO sense what he did.

[@paulmartin5803]

I'm sorry, respect to the game but the American's do not compare to Ronnie's ability. If he played the game full time they would get destroyed!

[@po4RP20361]

nobody compares, in most of the sporting world, but thats just my humble opinion as a pool player and a sometime snooker player

[@Abnsdllnnlosnfd]

Well, to be honest, basically no one compares to Ronnie´s talent when it comes to knocking balls around with a cue. So you can´t blame the Americans here😜

[@alexw5085]

Cleanest pot of the match to win it.

[@rossdonnelly3951]

This is like the boxing Vs MMA debate. It's a bit arrogant to assume that someone can just turn up to play a different sport and dominate. These guys are masters of their sports and it is fun to watch them play but just enjoy it for what it is. To claim one game is superior to another is a bit daft.

[@johannbogason1662]

Do you actually think that a pool-player can just turn up to play a different sport and dominate. That sport being snooker?! You must be delusional.

[@iweoldtimer]

Rocket vs Paper Plane 😂

[@kaneda010]

What's this game of "snucker" I keep hearing about?

[@andrewralphs6961]

It's like pool but for adults but you have to think 🤔

[@philiprose6226]

Well that joke fell flat... I appreciated it tho... snucker 😂

[@kaneda010]

@@philiprose6226 thanks ;-)

[@sammey1919]

Similar game as snewker.

[@izziebon]

@@andrewralphs6961 One of the main differences has a clue in the name, snooker… It’s much more to do with strategy than just potting. Much more precise, even with a massive table and a ‘nap’ surface.

[@blu3collar949]

Ronnie used a Snooker cue tip on his stick. That is what he is used to.

[@paulsmith1707]

Ronnie fouled the green before he hit the red, they showed it twice.

[@blu3collar949]

You can say what you want but Ronnie made plenty of mistakes. Unfortunately Hopkins' mistakes were more costly. I doubt if Ronnie could of got away with his mistakes against Efren.

[@frankberryfilms]

I can't help thinking if Hopkins just kept his head still when he is down on the shots, even just a little bit, it'd iron out a lot of his mistakes... You can't bob your head around and leap up off the shots like that without sacrificing accuracy. It's bizarre to see

[@siavashsabet2462]

the American technique is horrible, and he is a hall of famer! he shoots like 80 year old grandmas!

[@ementega]

Kinda weird play by ronnie, just like snooker atmosphere.. ❤️

[@hotwork115k4]

I KNOW THIS IS LATE HE HIT THE 6 BALL BEFORE HE HIT THE 3 BALL

[@ojelectrichvac]

Allen wore ear buds. That was his secret.

[@h98_kk76]

38:47 I guess it wasn’t considered foul in 1996.

[@h98_kk76]

At 51:27 another foul shot of similar nature.

[@wallytverstol8627]

good thing the rocket didn't decide to paly 9 ball for his career

[@harishhp137]

Cuing of pool players is so disgusting compared to the classy snooker players. I mean give some respect to the table at least.

[@1vo6m1t5]

Kind of a poor technique from Hopkins and bad fundamentals.

[@johntogher7356]

pockets are so big

[@paleshelter4002]

when the cloth was slower..and more follow was used

[@AngrierGorilla]

yep, now it's almost always draws and stuns

[@johnsheridan8281]

I suspect that if he ever wanted to learn pool he beat all these left handed

[@dellett5269]

In others words, he shot their liver out lol.

[@woodlouse6226]

oh when people thought that pool was a sport and not just a pub game, the good old days. just wish i could see some of these so called pool experts try there hand at snooker

[@parksyist]

45:30 the stupidest shot I've ever seen in pool

[@jaybe2908]

He did keep it out of the pocket though

[@leonardbangay2178]

Lol, totally agree. Shook my head when I saw what angle he was hitting at.

[@parksyist]

Crazy stuff lol

[@po4RP20361]

That was ugly

[@willem_nn]

are you pro?show your thropy..

[@Frankje01]

wtf is Allan's problem lol, that's the poorest technique I have seen on a pro that I've ever seen.

[@RobertSmith-bn3zw]

holy ads batman

[@nicholasbeaufrand4752]

Hopkins has one of the ugliest strokes in pool. Played bad that night.

[@AlexZander688]

Very consistent and repeatable though. Won many a tournament.

[@nicholasbeaufrand4752]

@@AlexZander688 indeed. My point still stands though. Not pretty to look at.

[@po4RP20361]

he really does, Ive never really seen a player of his caliber jump up on shots like he does too, but it worked out for him quite a bit and has made him some decent money over the years.

[@rogerscottcathey]

It'd be funny if Earl developed an English accent . . . But listen to Wych, saying "cannon" instead of carom or just "bounce". Smh

[@anotherOneMore7]

TOO MANY COMMERCIALS !!!!!! WORSE THAN NETWORK TV !!! I GIVE UP. GOING TO WATCH SOMETHING ELSE.

[@onnyt60]

Ever heard about AdBlocker

[@anotherOneMore7]

@@onnyt60 No, will look in to it thanks.

[@anotherOneMore7]

@@onnyt60 It looks like you have to set up yet another account and give yet another company information about what the youtube account watches and what it requests to block. I don't want to do that. Thanks for the idea though.

[@iweoldtimer]

Vanced KZbin 👈 Settle

[@repentofidols]

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[@johnmackenzie3773]

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[@dermotgillespie5138]

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[@peteranserin3708]

39:40 Ca lie bear? It's caliber. I thought English could speak it?

[@jimid9240]

He had a decent command of the English language, he just spoke it out of his arse!

[@TheJohnCooperShow]

Standard from Americans was rubbish back then ! I could beat that guy!

[@willem_nn]

snooker player vs pool player..play in pool game?are you kidding?

[@iweoldtimer]

Like rocket vs paper plane

[@ezekiel763]

Had no idea Mr Bean was so good at pool

[@infamousroy4421]

That guy you are calling mr. Bean would murder reyes, strickland day in day out.

[@onnyt60]

Was Darren Appleton playing?😂

[@onnyt60]

No he wouldn't

[@ezekiel763]

@@infamousroy4421 lol funny. Positive that any billiard game variation outside of snooker, Reyes would smoke mr beane.

[@infamousroy4421]

@@ezekiel763 what variation lol? All other variations of pool is below snooker. I really doesn't how pool players are proud of themselves and how do they believe when people call them greatest to hold a cue. Think about it, pool has bigger balls, biggest holes, shorter tables, broader cues. That itself makes pool inferior to snooker. Steve Davis smoked Efren. Jimmy White gave Efren a run for the money in his first ever pool tournament and he played efren in the final ( he murdered his way through to the final). The reason why snooker isn't that popular is because of the corrupt and incompetent governing body. It's like comparing mma(snooker) to boxing(pool). A great boxer is a great boxer. that's it. A great MMA fighter is one of the dangerous hand to hand combat artist in the world.

[@dhirajpallin2572]

I still don't get why snooker players are so bad at shot making in pool. Even when they play center ball, they miss shots they would _never_ miss in snooker. It's weird. For example how did Ronnie almost miss the shot at 14:13. I can't imagine he would miss this shot in 1000 attempts in snooker.

[@PaulMarostica]

He didn't miss at 14:13.

[@dhirajpallin2572]

@@PaulMarostica True, but I doubt he was aiming for the near cushion like that. Very risky!

[@marginality270]

Not just snooker players, either. I've watched some of the best pool players send balls directly to rails and slop them into pockets (just because they know they can, i'm guessing).

[@PaulMarostica]

Sometimes it is not possible to get good position for the next shot if the cue ball hits an object ball in the ideal spot to make the object ball go most ideally in to a pocket. So, sometimes a player will aim the cue ball a bit to 1 side of the ideal spot on the object ball, but not so much that the object ball will not go in, to try to get better position for the next shot. This technique is sometimes called "cheating the pocket". This could be the reason for some apparently sloppy shots that still go in, or miss. Or, it could be that a player just made a sloppy shot!

[@jaybe2908]

I think with some snooker players they don't give it the same concentration as they would in a big snooker tournament, Ronnie can be awful concentration wise sometimes added to that getting used to the different size balls/table, but if he is a different level in cue ability to the guy he was playing here, not to put the guy down but it wouldn't be a contest if Ronnie was really into the game.

[@midwestboyy6499]

Ive noticed these 2 guys has some of the worst fundamentals and strokes ive ever seen.

[@jrw0707]

Alan Hopkins yes, he was jumping out of his shot, head moving all over the place, repositioning while he was down on the shot, and stabbing stroke at the cue ball from time to time. But you can’t say that the greatest snooker player of all time has bad fundamentals. Bad shot choice, inexperience in 9ball, crappy break. Sure, I’ll give you those for Ronnie, buts it’s not his game. the sport of pool has grown leaps and bounds in the last 30years I mean what do you think Alan shot like Fargo wise 650-680, even 700 seems like a stretch. So todays players are way better, but that’s the way it works. Put any pro team against a team 30 years ago and see what happens. I guess what I’m saying is let’s cut Alan a little slack and if you haven’t watched Ronnie play snooker go do that right now, I think he is the best cue sport player of all time. Over Efren, SVB, Earl, all of them. And I’ll stir the pot a little more and say that snooker players are far superior to pool players.

[@harveywhipp9245]

did anyone notice Allen Hopkins double hitting the cue ball at 16:50

[@THE_CHOAS_ENGINE]

you could probably argue he pushed the cue ball yes I think

[@davidcollins6778]

I think if you asked both players, they both played shit this game

[@dewimudd5692]

These pool players would be no good at snooker because theire cue actions are terrible

[@mrearlygold]

So, cheating and "safety" shots are a way of life over there eh?

[@regat70]

He talks to much

[@briannolan8061]

8 Ball and Snooker is like watching U F C and Boxing, 8 Ball being the U F C.

[@po4RP20361]

under boxing rules though

[@jimid9240]

Sid Waddell was a terrible commentator, just insufferable.

[@user-ek8iw7vi6q]

У Ронни снукерный кий