Frozen rail shot all great players know

[@happyhappy8746]

Out of all the many videos I've watched,this is by far the best at explaining the short

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you HH, I’m glad you found this tutorial to be helpful and thank you for the kind words 👍🏻😊👍🏻

[@bstanga]

Another powerful shot Ron. Robert Byrne talks about this shot a good bit in his books. If a person wanted to improve his/her game quickly read his books and watch your catalog of videos. best Brian

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Brian and thank you for turning me onto Byrne’s book 👍🏻😊

[@JerryLee..]

Great video and explanation. One thing I learned is to look at the angle of vie ball deflection. That will tell the player how the ball was hit. Love it Ron.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Jerry, I appreciate the feedback 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@Leswayne777]

Excellent video Ron, we appreciate all the hard work you put into these

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Les, glad you liked it and hope it was of help. I love creating videos as I discover these new shots. Hopefully, videos like these will help newer players improve which will in turn, help grow the sport. Thanks again 👍🏻😊👍🏻

[@fixitrod4969]

Another great video! And kodus to whoever did those rail. To roll by the center pockets without hitting a rail corner in either direction is pretty good!

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Rodney, and that would be me and my sparring partner Lance that redid the table. We are both perfectionists at everything we do 🤷🏻‍♂️😉

[@ObsessedWithPool]

When I was having my table re-covered (which involved removing all the rails), I made sure with a framing square and laser that the side pocket rails were straight down the table b4 allowing them to be tightened down. I actually lost a tournament game bc my only shot was a straight down frozen rail shot past the side pocket and I couldn't do it bc I would have hit the far knuckle.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@ObsessedWithPool I’m super fussy about this. I will inspect billiard hall tables to confirm straightness by sighting them. By closing one eye and sighting them for any mismatch is easily done and then you’ll know if there would be an issue from a specific direction for your rail shots. This is good info to know 👍🏻

[@OffGridMadMan]

I play on a 7x4 English table with very tight pockets but this is literally priceless as rail shots are the bane of my life! Cheers from 🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Ron 👍👍👌

[@ronthepoolstudent]

I bet you must stay super tight to the cushion on the way in with your tables OGMM. This shot can really help achieve that. Thanks for commenting from all of the way across the pond 😊👍🏻😊

[@OffGridMadMan]

@@ronthepoolstudent it's my pleasure, I'v watched loads of your videos and they're excellent. And yes, the balls must go in clean or they ain't going in! Thanks again 🙌

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@OffGridMadMan thanks so much for watching OGMM, I really do appreciate that 👍🏻😊👍🏻

[@MrLeftfootlouie]

As a late beginner. I have so much thanks to you players so well versed in all manners of shots. I hope to emulate the best of the best, and thanks to you,Ron ,I just might win a few difficult games.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks, I’m pulling for you Mr LF Louie 👍🏻💪🏻😊💪🏻👍🏻

[@MrLeftfootlouie]

@Ron, “The pool student” . Thanks for the moral support. Enjoy the rest of your day Ron.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@MrLeftfootlouie thanks bud, you as well 👍🏻👋

[@dinorojo]

Just what I needed! Thanks Ron! Love that slo-mo

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@yvans8994]

Ron I love what you are doing for all of USSSSSS THANKS

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Yvans, this is what my channel is all about 👍🏻😊

[@MrSegopa]

🎱 Master Ron, thanks for clarity on this shot that is needed in my shots repotore & sure gonna be working on it until I master the shot... Put more video helping us 8ball or Blackball players to excel and be consistent in our shots.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks Leon, and glad this was of help. I’ll for sure be sharing more as I improve and cross new horizons. Thanks again 👍🏻😊

[@hyperbassify]

Excellent demonstration!

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Clyde, glad you liked it 👍🏻 ❤️🎱

[@michaelwilliams-wv6xb]

you know, its something I've "known". hit the rail first. But, I have not executed the shoot that way. Now that I see your video, I know why I'm inconsistent with that shoot. Thank you for the break down. I will now become better with the shoot. I'm sure of it

[@ronthepoolstudent]

You’ll shoot this shot with confidence now Michael 👍🏻

[@brianb0326]

top notch instruction as always Ron !! thanks for all your Vids !!

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Brian 👍🏻😊👍🏻

[@eddiemanning2719]

Ron thanks for sharing your knowledge, it’s definitely a great shot to know for sure. I know this shot myself and it has got me out of some situations many times. I like snaring my knowledge too but there’s always more to learn lol.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks Eddie, we are forever learning I’d say. This game has so much going on, we will most likely never totally figure it out 🤷🏻‍♂️ This is what drives us to perfection. Thanks bud 👍🏻😊👍🏻

[@harper626]

Video very well done. I need to practice this shot. Encounter it all the time.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks Harper and yes, it’s super common but now it’ll be a hanger for you also. 👍🏻💪🏻👍🏻

[@dexterpagurayan4881]

So this is why i kept doing this in highschool which i don't know how but i just kept repeating it when it's close to the rail😜😅 thanks for informing us sir🖖🖖

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks Dexter 👍🏻😊

[@Bevallalom]

Great explanation. It's time to practice 😀

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Bevallalon, good luck with this shot 👍🏻😊💪🏻

[@kenplatzer8007]

New to the channel…GREAT lesson. Thx!

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Awesome and thank you Ken. Please feel free to reach out with any questions you my have 👍🏻😊 ❤️🎱

[@mythoughts.....4787]

I don't miss a video, I have become one of your favorite fans. Always like, every video gets better, forever subscribed. Cheers !!!

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Oh man, thank you very much mythoughts. (Sorry, I don’t know your first name) I appreciate the compliment and I’m working to always improve. Btw, I’m upgrading my audio system as we speak. Thanks again 👍🏻😊👍🏻

[@seamusmcfadden994]

Excellent vid and camera work!

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Seamus 👍🏻😊👍🏻

[@ral819]

Ron, I especially like that, if you have enough speed, you can also get reverse spin off the other long rail and go back up table ... I've been working with this shot more often...

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Great to know ral, I haven’t experimented with position back up table from this shot yet so thanks for that 👍🏻

[@ral819]

@@ronthepoolstudent I've seen a video on this using more low spin and the appropriate right / left spin ...

[@veronicahawthorne3452]

Thanks for the link to this video! This is THE HARDEST shot for me to master. I'm going to apply these techniques and I'll let you know how it goes! Thanks Ron! :)

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Awesome and you’re welcome Veronica. One more word of advice; do not hit the cue ball too hard with these shots. With medium speed, the spin grabs the cushion much better.

[@egreber]

I enjoy your short videos like this one

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you and glad to hear Gordon, I hope you found this video helpful 👍🏻

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

Great to see that ball go all the way down the rail.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks Dan, it’s amazing how at times, the ball will huge the cushion all the way in. The shot needs to be struck clean for that to happen but it’s not that hard to do.

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

@@ronthepoolstudent that's what I like about this shot , it allows for error and still makes the shot. I guy I use to play would use center top 🔝 English and they would hug the rail and run to the pocked, but, extra run on the cue ball leads to scratch shots. so your way bis better in cue ball control. thanks for the vid, I will start practicing this next.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@DANTHETUBEMAN awesome Dan and thanks. Btw, I too used center top when I started playing to make this shot. You’re spot on that the scratch looms large when shooting this way. This is why I began messing around with spin rather than top only. Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@RichardsWorld]

Your table plays pretty good if you can make it past the side pockets. Most good pool halls don't have this problem. But a run-down table might make shooting along the rail past a side pocket near impossible.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

I’ve matched up my rails so they are perfectly in line with one another Richard.

[@georgedennis2112]

Great video Ron. Have you been watching my game😁? Just what I needed at this time. Much appreciated. Keep them coming. Stay well.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks George, glad to hear this was of help. Hopefully I can figure out more shots that’ll help us all like this one. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@dimson9020]

great stuff,thank you.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you dimson, glad this was of help 👍🏻

[@ERDG516]

Great video

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you EDR 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@politicalatheist5861]

Thank you Ron for your time and passion. Although I am at the skill level and know this shot, you explain it to beginners perfectly. I was Fortunato that my father was essentially a pro and taught me these tricks over 20 years ago. Back then people didn’t give away their secrets. Now we have KZbin and it’s a great learning tool. Keep it up and stay blessed

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks 👍🏻 When making this video I kept thinking to myself many players wouldn’t share this one. This shot truly becomes a hanger once shot this way. Thanks again PA 👍🏻

[@nelsongovindsamy7143]

Thank you so much

[@ronthepoolstudent]

You’re welcome Nelson, it’s a great way to pocket these shots 👍🏻

[@rogercarlson2330]

another great one ty

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Roger, glad you liked it 👍🏻

[@ObsessedWithPool]

@ronthepoolstudent Ron, thanks for this video. I have been having a terrible time getting this shot to work as I have no idea where I need to aim. I manage to get this to work about 1 in 8 or 1 in 10 times. All the other times I manage to have the object ball drift away from the rail enough to not go in. When it does work, I can't really reproduce where I aimed that time too well, since, as I said before, I don't know where to aim at all.. I am using a low deflection carbon fiber shaft, so my English shot line should be more or less parallel to the center ball shot line, not pivoting. Are you aiming through the ghost ball center and then pivoting a bit for the English? This shot seems to me to need much more precise placement than you are saying. Any clues would be most appreciated.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you D. There is actually a fair bit of leeway on this shot. The main thing is not to hit the object ball first. Ideally, missing on the way in by 1/8” will send the ball tight down the cushion from this angle. Keep shooting the shot while trying to miss hitting ball first. Once you visualize the aim point, you’ll start making it with consistency. Let me know if that helps 👍🏻

[@ObsessedWithPool]

@@ronthepoolstudent hi Ron and thanks very much for the reply. I set up my cell phone on a tripod to watch the hit in slow motion video (this was bothering me as to what exactly was happening!) and found out, indeed, that I was hitting the object ball first, both stroke and aiming issues. Once I fixed that (by concentrating on shooting to where i actually think i was aiming 🤔 and aiming right between the cushion and the ball as they all say to do, it went right down to the pocket, both with Tor Lowry's center high and high outside English (which seemed to make the ball hug the cushion more??). Center high caused a couple of scratches (as was said in other comments), but outside high seemed to fix the scratch issues, mostly. Once I got past the psychological barrier to missing the ball, at least for one shot or so, I was even able to succeed with your inside high trick, but that only seems to consistently work if one is always going to aim to miss even the simultaneous cushion and ball hit, and you have to be pretty precise as to how much to miss as I sold out a game on the 8ball by missing the ball completely once. I will try more with the inside English to see how far I can actually miss the ball and make the shot as that way seems much more useful.. Problem with all of this is that ball control and position after the shot seems to go out the window..

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@ObsessedWithPool thanks for the update D. As for the inside spin shot, you can control position by adjusting the vertical tip location placement along with speed of stroke. (high/low) It will take trial & error to gather feedback to know the physics behind the shot. I shot inside spinner drills for months to be able to learn stun with spin and speed. It’s a quirky shot but once you get a handle on it, it’s an amazing addition to your game. I have a KZbin Short coming out tomorrow where I shot an opening nine ball game shot. The shot is low inside stun to gain sick position to my next shot. The shot can only be described in a way that I simply felt how to stroke it and that I subconsciously understood tip placement. This instinct came from countless hours of trial and error as mentioned. What you will find is that one day, you’ll begin to feel how stun and differing degrees of stun will play a huge part in your game. You’ll be able to instinctually play and it’ll feel as if you are an extension of your cue, you and your cue will become one. It sounds crazy but this is what I feel when I’m in stroke. Please ask me any questions at any time and I’ll be happy to help in any way possible. Thanks again 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@ObsessedWithPool]

@@ronthepoolstudent is it possible to DM u? I'll write u email if that's ok?

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@ObsessedWithPool I’m one of the moderators with “Lil’ Chris Pool Coaching Den” on Facebook. Go ahead and request membership there. You’ll need to answer all four questions in order the be approved. If you don’t, other moderators will deny your request.

[@vincevita6872]

Ron, what is your aim point on these shots.... i can do it but not consistent...aiming at the ball thin or at the rail itself? i'm thinking of trying backhand english to see if that helps consistency so i get a tru aim point and let the deflection take over from there. Thanks again... Vince

[@ronthepoolstudent]

I aim just short of hitting the ball Vince. This being said, I use a super low deflection Z3 shaft (11.8 mm) so I’m able to aim where I plan to contact the cushion. You’ll need to practice this shot from various cut angles ranging from shallow to steep. This will help to find your own aim point while accounting for any possible cue ball squirt. One more point: Experiment with speed as well as this makes a difference.

[@zekragash4294]

Getting around to watching some older videos. How much aim compensation for squirt/deflection? I don't seem to be able to consistently get this shot. The only thing I can think of. That and old eyes.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Knowing our cue’s performance is a must Ze. I suggest using the paper reinforcements to shoot the same shot over and over as you experiment and adjust. This will more rapidly help you to understand your cue’s performance. For instance, I recall not understanding the three cushion inside running spin shot. (linked below) I then set it up as mentioned above. Within one hour, I understood the shot. I realized I was hitting the shot with too much pace which caused massive squirt. Once I slowed down the strike, my cue ball hit my aim point every time. From there, I began to pocket the inside running spin shot with regularity. See link below: 3 rail inside running-spin shot kzbin.infoKUwNUMbjkpM?feature=share Lastly; think of it like this when using spin, let the spin do the work as you stroke with finesse. I call this slinging the cue ball. By doing this, you’ll dramatically reduce squirt thus holding your cue ball on line. Where players get in trouble is when they bang at the shot too hard. Give this advice a lengthy chance as you practice. As you go through the process, you’ll come across one of those eureka moments Ze 👍🏻

[@jamescathcart4762]

Very nice Ron. Ouick question for ya. When you were practicing your straight stroking drill either on the rail or on a straight line drawn on the felt, how many reps and sets did you do? l understand we have to create muscle memory and thicken our mylen sheath. This exercise seems to be helping with my crooked stroke Your thoughts?

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you very much James and thank you for the question. I never really counted when working on recreating muscle memory. I actually just kept telling myself to stay at it and eventually it will come. This took lots of time but I can say this, when I learned to push my cue forward slowly that first inch or two before accelerating through the CB, that’s when it all began to come together. Hope that helped 🤷🏻‍♂️ Thanks again James.

[@cueball5858]

Hi Ron. Just curious. Did you use what I would call 'normal' spin on the ball as a snooker player would and move the cue parallelt to the original shot line and then just adjust your aim by having built up a 'knowing' of the amount of squirt and compensating for it by sight? Or do you use either of the Front Hand English or Back Hand English methods? Which method do you normally use? If FHE, did you use BHE in your early days? What are your thoughts nowadays? Thanks for your help.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks for your question cue ball. I do not use FH or BH english. I simply move the tip to where I know the contact point is on the cue ball and stroke to deliver the tip on target. Also, I use a Z3 11.8 low deflection shaft so I aim at where I intend to hit on the cushion. There is hardly any squirt with the Z3 shaft so aiming this way works fantastic for my stroke. This being said. cues that squirt the cue ball will need to be figured out through experimentation by the player so they can compensate accordingly. I hope that helps to answer your question CB. Thanks again 👍🏻

[@cueball5858]

@@ronthepoolstudent Thanks Ron. I am currently in the 'experimentation/compensation' stage 😂

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@cueball5858 cool 👍🏻 My best advice if you’re struggling, purchase a low deflection cue. I have eleven cues and two are amazing. My Purex 11.8 pro taper and my Z3 Predator shaft are super low deflection. And make my game much easier. Just a thought.

[@cueball5858]

@@ronthepoolstudent Hi Ron, the greatest concession I can make to getting good equipment is to buy some decent chalk! I bought the green Taom and it's great. It was the same price as my cue - around 1,000 pesos here in the Philippines, so less than $20. Amazingly, I've found that with a bridge length of about 14" and using BHE the CB goes where I send it. And that's after my wife had put my shorts, with the chalk and my glove in the pocket, through the washer!😀

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@cueball5858 I use the Taom Pyro and haven’t yet tried the green. I’ve heard great reviews about it from others as well. I need to order some. Thanks 👍🏻😊

[@rickwilliams3515]

I struggle with these. You make it look easy. Do you have to allow for throw when aiming to hit rail then ball?

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks Rick, when using inside spin on these frozen shots, the ball will hug the cushion even though we hit close to or slightly away from the object ball as mentioned in the video. As far as adjusting for throw, I do not unless the object ball is off the cushion. Here’s a tip for you: If the object ball is slightly off the cushion, use top, middle or bottom outside spin, this will make the object ball track freely down the rail into the pocket. This also pertains to any cut shot on the table. We do have to factor in spin induced throw here but once you’ve learned how to aim with speed/spin, this becomes a powerful weapon. Thanks for your question Rick 👍🏻😊

[@yes2crypto]

Good video. Are you doing anything consciously to account for deflection or squirt? Or is it all unconscious?

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Y2C. I use a Z3 low deflection 11.8 shaft so my aim point is exactly where I want to make contact with the cushion in this case. Any cue ball squirt is counter acted by swerve. In fact, if I use low inside spin, the cue ball will swerve/hook into the shot even more, this is great when the cue ball is at a 90° angle to the object ball that’s also frozen to the cushion at distance. Thanks again and hope that helped. PS, I have eleven different cues. There is definitely a difference in squirt where some of them would require lots of practice time to get to know them.

[@brett6314]

I've made the 30 to 45 degree angles pretty regularly. Last night I missed a longer shallow angle, say 20 degrees. I was confused looking at it thinking a specific contact point on the rail wasn't obvious. Why don't I ever see someone using this if the ball is close but not frozen? Those are hard to cut more than 4 diamonds.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Brett for your question. On those shallow angle frozen rail shots, you’ll need to hit ball rail at the same time. My advice: Experiment by adjusting your aim point and keep your cue as level as possible to avoid swerving the cue ball on those longer shots. Hope that helps 👍🏻

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Also note; when the object ball is not frozen, you will need to contact the ball direct. (unless going rail first) This will require good aim to the ghost ball position with a good stroke. Thanks, Ron

[@zanethind]

Nice video Ron

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Zane 👋

[@zanethind]

@@ronthepoolstudent you're welcome

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@zanethind it’s a must shot to know 👍🏻

[@zanethind]

@@ronthepoolstudent very true

[@MichaelJones-yi5ue]

Do you need a lot of speed to transfer the spin and limit deflection of the cue ball

[@ronthepoolstudent]

No Michael, in fact, you’ll need to apply a medium stroke so the spin actually grabs the cushion. Too much speed will reduce the margin of error. Experiment with it and you’ll get a feel for this shot rather quickly. Good luck and thank you for your question 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Also, you should know your cue’s rate of deflection. My Z3 11.8 maple Predator shaft for instance is super low deflection. I’m able to aim at the point I wish to hit. Any cue ball squirt btw, is negated by swerve due to the side spin. Hope that also helped.

[@MichaelJones-yi5ue]

@Ron, “The pool student” Yeah I have a low deflection McDermott cue and shaft so going to start practicing this shot class. Needed it last time at league and failed. Now it's tournament time next week.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@MichaelJones-yi5ue it will become a hanger for you. I love it when the ball is frozen to the cushion and I need inside spin or I’m on the nine. Also, check out my “Powerful Position Practice” video linked below, it has two of these shots: Powerful Position Practice PPP kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZelYoaNjbWNbKc

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@MichaelJones-yi5ue good luck with it and hope you’ll have it down for your tournament. Give me a shout if you need more help with it.

[@bentackett6299]

Could you actually have a little reverse angle and still make this with enough spin?

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Actually, yes Ben. I will say that some cloth grabs more than other however. Thanks for your question 👍🏻

[@bentackett6299]

@@ronthepoolstudent thanks for the answer! I enjoy your videos. I'm going to practice this and actually got to use it tonight. Just got done playing with the crew on an early 1900's Brunswick Kling table with my old Titlist Palmer window cue. We played for about 7 hours straight. I'm still very much a beginner but getting better. It's a great game!

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@bentackett6299 thank you & glad you like my content Ben. 7 hours of play goes fast when playing friends. This is such a cool game 😊👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@rodconner9079]

:) What more can be said!?! --- Other than, it takes Practice! Practice = Exercising shots that result in a specific outcome so they become familiar. Be Safe

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Rod, well said and be safe as well 👍🏻

[@CueballcontrolSometimes]

A work in progress but I am trying to dial this in for balls off the rail as well.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@CueballcontrolSometimes I’ve always kind of had an eye for angle in/angle out. This said, once I began applying (consistent) running spin, my success rate jumped up considerably. It really boils down to practice, in order to develop a “feel” for these shots. There is no doubt about it, by me creating vids like this one, it has made me a better player for it. As I shot my video clips for this tutorial, I found myself practicing for three hours, as I tried to perfect that draw shot for position above the yellow. I find I do this on almost every video I create.

[@tonymontana9462]

when to use shot1 vs shot2?

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you for your question Tony. Both shots 1 & 2 are only different in that you can still drive the object ball down the rail even though you hit close or slightly away from the contact point on the object ball. These two shots were differentiated, to show the margin of error a shooter can get away with while still pocketing the shot. I hope that answered your question and thanks again.

[@migueleduardo6297]

VERY good, but do you have a video on how to pu "english" on the cue ball? thanks

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@migueleduardo6297 Thank you Miguel. Here is what I did to learn to shoot with english. Start at the beginning and do not progress until you master those shots. The tip indicator shows where you’ll need to strike the cue ball. Do not give up trying as it’s this process that teaches us how to pocket shots when applying english. This is the best way to answer your question. See link below: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3qkhpprit2aZqcsi=O7V0hAd723jnZLrR Thank you and please reach out as you have questions, I’m always here to assist 👍🏻

[@migueleduardo6297]

@@ronthepoolstudent thanks Mr what site do you recomend tô buy good snooker cues with a fair price? Thanks

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@migueleduardo6297 Thank you Miguel but I wouldn’t know where you could purchase a good Snooker cue. I would think there are KZbin videos on the subject though.

[@PLANDerLinde99]

Does this work in British pool?

[@ronthepoolstudent]

There are many times when this shot is hit that the object ball hugs tight to the cushion all the way into the pocket. In order for this to happen, the aim point must be more precise. This being said, I have never played English Pool so I can’t really answer your question Dr. Thundergun. However, if the English Pool ball will go into the pocket when running tightly down the cushion, then the answer would be yes.

[@PLANDerLinde99]

@@ronthepoolstudent Yes, It seems to make sense for it to work in British pool, Only difference is, In British pool, The cue ball is slightly smaller than the object balls, I believe in American pool, They're both the same size

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@PLANDerLinde99 great point and yes, our cue ball and object balls are the same size @ 2 1/2”. We do have situations where the cue ball is larger which is typical on pay tables so the CB returns to the kitchen end. I’m not sure however about the physics and how this would effect the shot if CB is smaller. I think I’ll order a set of English Pool balls to experiment. Thank you for the question Dr. T and stay tuned for my findings.

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@PLANDerLinde99 I’m searching and have found a set of English Pool balls on Amazon. They are 2.05 inches which is of course smaller that our 2 1/4” but the balls are said to be the same size as the cue ball. Your thoughts on if I’m not finding the correct English Pool ball set?

[@stevejones3180]

@@ronthepoolstudent Aramith pro cup are used in UK for the most part. The cue ball is smaller than the object balls. However, the method that you have demonstrated in your video works well, provided that your aim is good, I know because I tried it today. Thank you.

[@rickvassell8349]

Nice!

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thank you Rick, glad this was of help 👍🏻

[@naonao76]

Hi Ron, yes that's definitely a good shot to have. What's also cool about that shot is the fact that the cue ball follows very close to the tangent despite the fact you're applying inside English. So it's very predictable path. Also, there's a cool variation of this rail first shot with inside draw which makes the cue ball bounce from the first long rail, follow the tangent line, and zipping back from the second rail because it remains all that inside English. Have you tried it?

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Thanks Nao Nao. I have not tried this but I will as it sounds interesting. As you know, I’m new to these more advanced shots so imparting different spins from them will be an eye opener I bet for sure. Thanks for pointing this out as I can’t wait to make the cue ball change it’s mind 👍🏻😉👍🏻

[@CringeBasedDuality]

I can only do this shot in miniclips 8 ball pool😂

[@ronthepoolstudent]

Not sure what miniclips is 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[@CringeBasedDuality]

@@ronthepoolstudent it's a pool game on Android/Apple

[@ronthepoolstudent]

@@CringeBasedDuality ahh, cool 👍🏻