2021 Roofing Shingle Guide: Ultimate Review by Roofers

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Roofing Insights

Roofing Insights

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@WEATHERLINEROOFING
@WEATHERLINEROOFING 3 жыл бұрын
I am in Southern California, so we are limited to Malarkey, GAF, CertainTeed, and Owens Corning. If you are judging on customer service, GAF and CertainTeed are the worst. I don't use Owens Corning so I'm not too sure, but Malarkey is far above the rest!
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@SFurbandog
@SFurbandog 3 жыл бұрын
From a website perspective the GAF is inferior to Owens Corning. As a homeowner/consumer I need to get information and images easily.
@mrc79
@mrc79 3 жыл бұрын
What’s your company domenic?
@mathewmccurry1140
@mathewmccurry1140 3 жыл бұрын
Gaf is definitely not the worst
@devingale3699
@devingale3699 3 жыл бұрын
I sell BP/IKO shingles into California.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
What a feedback! Thank you everyone who came to comments and shared feedback! Wouldnt be here without you guys!
@butalina
@butalina 3 жыл бұрын
Dmitry...I used your Directorii...OMR Construction just completed my roof using Atlas Pristine...The owner Ozzie and his crew were fantastic...Owner was on site...He upgraded the flashing to black metal instead of the ugly silver...the plastic ridge vent was a upgrade as well...The roof looks fantastic...I could not be more happier with OMR construction...
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing! Glad we could help!
@butalina
@butalina 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 Thank you for helping a homeowner get a dependable contractor.
@ericeaton-iy8ni
@ericeaton-iy8ni 10 ай бұрын
As a new agent in Tampa, FL, I’ve started building relationships with a couple roofers, along with lenders, title companies etc, and videos like these are GOLD! I had a client ask me today about the Atlas Pinnacle shingles and if they were good, and I refuse to lie, so I said I’d get back to him, and although this is 2021 it helped me a lot! So thank you! You do a great job speaking, and organization, so hats off to you! Great work man!
@willarddickerson921
@willarddickerson921 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I am the DIYer that most contractors hate because sometimes I know as much or more than them. I have successfully done major roofing work on my own home. This is a great video. I just subscribed to your channel.
@stacyerickson164
@stacyerickson164 Жыл бұрын
Your videos have been extremely helpful in describing everything I need to consider when choosing a shingle for my roof. I enjoyed your thoroughness and your professional experience - thank you for posting!!
@jennycatlike
@jennycatlike 2 жыл бұрын
Dimitry you are the Ralph Nader of roofing- thank you for educating us consumers!
@pro4x99
@pro4x99 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've been a curious about roofing since Malarkey replaced my roof free of charge after experiencing buckled shingles after they were installed. They did make me wait to see if the shingles would "settle" down for about 3 months and because of Covid took a bit longer to get to my house to inspect them, but that's fine. I live in Canada and they honored their warranty and took care of the problem. I would recommend Malarkey based on their customer service alone and they did well in your ratings. Thanks
@Richism4U
@Richism4U 2 жыл бұрын
I am a DYI person for my own roof. Asking roofers what they prefer is huge. I am on west coast and limited on big box stores. I appreciate you guys. keep up the great videos.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@marios.5954
@marios.5954 2 жыл бұрын
wish I watched this last year before having my roof installed. Glad to have seen this before replacing roof on my new home.
@teaddywarner1357
@teaddywarner1357 Жыл бұрын
As a home owner that just had his roof replaced. This video was very helpful. My roofers recommend atlas. Although the definition on the architectural shingles was not expected as a high definition GAF the performance in this video sold me on its longevity. I live in the southeast part of the USA and it withstanding heavy winds as demonstrated in the pull test gave me all the assurance I needed. I do recommend that there be a category based on overall look after installation. Thanks for the video.
@itsdyl1031
@itsdyl1031 3 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated channel thank you for all the work you put into these they help more than you could know!
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the love! We love roofing industry so rating don’t matter to us!
@itsdyl1031
@itsdyl1031 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 I use primarily OC duration and as a roofer I must say it really does have the best granule loss vs when I’ve used IKO and have trouble standing on a 7/12 when it’s hot. will admit iko has gotten a bit better still OC fan though!
@annasherbatova9255
@annasherbatova9255 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@maryannnoland2321
@maryannnoland2321 2 жыл бұрын
I am grateful for this video and want to thank you for rating and explaining the rating process. I recently bought a roof that used the IKO Dynasty shingles. I heard the sale pitch, but watching your video helped me gain a little more confidence in the shingle..
@YetiRoofing
@YetiRoofing 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Still love Malarkey, they’re just a solid shingle. Not flashy just dependable. They’re the Toyota of shingles, lol. Had my first manufacturer warranty claim in 11 years and thousands of squares I’ve installed. They treated me great. The process was painless and I had a check in my hand about 3 days after filing it.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Malarkey is great! Never had problem with them, but thats what the only bad shingle in test (bad batch). I am sure they would take care of it in case of the claim, but because we cant review them, it cost them a start as promised last year. Bad quality batch didnt cost them this year but will next year for sure! Thanks for feedback!
@Bryttannee
@Bryttannee 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel has helped me so much asking contractors the right questions for my new roof.
@vladkifor2567
@vladkifor2567 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is for initial quality, but it would be nice to see a longevity category. Because that’s what’s very important to contractors and customers.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Longevity is more predictable if initial quality is good.
@blondeguy08
@blondeguy08 Жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 not necessarily true. Changes in formulation especially like adding poly or copper granules could have serious long term effects. In my industry polys do great until they have extended UV exposure.
@scottchristianson7841
@scottchristianson7841 3 жыл бұрын
Landmarks have been at the top of my list for years. Four out of five repairs used to be the Owens corning shingles, so I have to give it to them for revamping the line to being so durable during wind events. One of the issues with materials is ease or comfort of use is fiberglass slivers you get in your fingertips. Timberline shingles are one you get many slivers from, certainteed you hardly ever get these slivers in your fingertips. Thanks for listening to commets, I have installed for over 20 years now.
@thomasgaucher-peressini8785
@thomasgaucher-peressini8785 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, GAF give my splinters in the hands from fiberglass, and also its very thin
@somethingkindawonderful3034
@somethingkindawonderful3034 Жыл бұрын
Help please what is the very blackest shingle
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 6 ай бұрын
@@thomasgaucher-peressini8785 the GAF shingles I examined were the thinest and most brittle ,easily damaged things ive yet seen.. reminded me of a nacho chip.. so easily cracked.. high fiberglass content for sure
@comienzaunnegociodeconstru426
@comienzaunnegociodeconstru426 2 жыл бұрын
I am new in the roofing industry, this video helps me so much on using my to go shingle for my clients! From California Glam Roofing Inc.
@ValloneJohn
@ValloneJohn Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this content! Quoting a new roof and I have been watching so many of your videos. One thing I was thinking when I was watching these: If products are apples to apples on a cost basis, then the average homeowner wouldn't care about metrics like packaging, true coverage, or count. I definitely understand why this is important to the roofing contractor, but it would be interesting to see a contractor rating vs. homeowner rating. It would also be cool to see pricing on these to understand rating vs. cost to determine best bang for buck.
@saadalexan
@saadalexan Жыл бұрын
Hi, When do you have ratings for 2022 and 2023? Thank you for a great analysis.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
From Insights: 00:00 Intro 02:20 Test 1 - Packaging 04:11 Test 2 - Weight 05:50 Roofers need to offer homeowners financing; Enhancify can help! 07:57 Test 3 - Nailing zone 09:53 Test 4 - Pull test 12:53 Test 5 - True coverage 14:42 Test 6 - Consistency 17:32 Test 7 - Reputation trend 20:29 Test 8 - Granule loss 22:54 Test 9 - Feedback friendly 27:26 Which brand of roofing shingles is the best? 31:18 Find a local contractor on Directorii
@bryansprecher
@bryansprecher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@joshuawilson1989
@joshuawilson1989 3 жыл бұрын
The new O.C durations are really great installed them 5 different colors and they are all 👍. Great info
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@bobkrueger194
@bobkrueger194 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for a 2023 shingle guide but I dont see that posted. I am looking at Atlas Pinnacle pristine and Owens Corning Duration. Which one would you pick for your house? Thanks.
@_May_019
@_May_019 3 жыл бұрын
My Father has a company and he uses Malarkey here in Oregon and even though his company has started not that long ago he has over twenty years of experience and since he doesn’t know how to write in English it’s up to me as the oldest to help him in that department as well as everything dealing with Paperwork , emails etc .
@Dylan-si5qm
@Dylan-si5qm 3 жыл бұрын
Proud to be Master Elite, and installing HDZ all over Michigan. Fantastic shingle. And looks great.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
GAF made a lot of improvements with HDZ. We were impressed. They didn’t get single 3 in comparison. But they can’t stop improving because others are innovating too! Manufacturers should keep investing in better products and not focus as much on marketing budgets.
@Dylan-si5qm
@Dylan-si5qm 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 Agreed 100%. You've had our company on your show, Rapid Roofing. And we are very active with GAF. We give them loads of feedback on what to improve on. And usually they listen! Thank you for the great content!
@travisbolinger1387
@travisbolinger1387 Жыл бұрын
We just roofed 9 duplexes with OC oakridge onyx black bought at Lowes. 3 have issues with colors off. OC wants me to o on each roof, remove one of each color and send in for lab testing. I should not have to do this.
@anthonymason8469
@anthonymason8469 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video, I help me narrow my roofer to two contractors and the shingles and underlayment they use. and one of the contractors I'm considering is recommended by Roofers Insights, they are giving good information and data to the regular homeowner who do not know this business.
@deborahnichols5672
@deborahnichols5672 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, so very very helpful for me to select the right shingle. I based my selection on color first before talking to contractors, but found discrepancies between outdated sample boards and the color of the actual shingle; so maddening after selecting the color I love! I need to share with consumers to ALWAYS ask for a sample shingle from the bundle of shingles for the true color of the dye lot BEFORE approving the shingle! Thank you for this video.
@patriciaosborne8940
@patriciaosborne8940 2 жыл бұрын
What shingle did you select?
@SeanMcDonnell33
@SeanMcDonnell33 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic video! super helpful thank you! one thought, if they aren't all the same size.. what's the point of weighing them?
@Roperpotter
@Roperpotter 3 жыл бұрын
Super proud of IKO! Can’t wait to show this to customers!!!
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir! Customers must know!
@Cretehead
@Cretehead 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely nothing to be proud of around 2004-06!
@vintagerocket6814
@vintagerocket6814 2 жыл бұрын
Cambridge are junk. Never again!
@saudk9261
@saudk9261 Жыл бұрын
Hey @Dmitry so I live in the Southeast (Atlanta) and so we had hot humid summers and rainy (all year) long. The Roofers I am talking with only seem to have GAF Timberline HDZ and OC (Not sure which one but let say its Duration). My house also has lower tree count so wind is a issue. What is your recommendation or any other roofer's recommendation between the 2 brands? Also am I within my right to ask for a quote with another shingle type? Lastly is there a reason to go with a certain combination of products to get the warranty honored by the shingle manufacturer?
@Faruk651
@Faruk651 3 жыл бұрын
OC duration might be couple grams lighter than other brands but it does not lose granules easily. I think it is the most important factor in these comparisons. (OC duration is already great at sealing)
@songfitsterlou2814
@songfitsterlou2814 Жыл бұрын
This video helps a lot. I didn't see Corning in there amongst the manufactures. Why is that?
@Go_Roof_It_Right
@Go_Roof_It_Right 3 жыл бұрын
I like a lot what you did in this review. From Homeowners perspective: pull test and granular loss is most important. I think You have to give to those categories a heavier numbers. Like actual PSI numbers from the pull tests and 1000 devided by the milligrams of granular loss. Seems it will be nice to add a test on a sealer. If it sticks well. You know how some winter installation is never sealed up because the adhesive is weak and as a result many blow offs.
@PavelessAdventure
@PavelessAdventure 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! I’m a roofer in Manitoba Canada, install almost only Owens Corning duration!!
@somethingkindawonderful3034
@somethingkindawonderful3034 Жыл бұрын
Who has a true really really black shingle
@delander100
@delander100 Жыл бұрын
I am in Central FL and trying to get a quality roof -- i have a quote using Owens Corning Duration Series -- I did not see this in your shingle evaluation video?
@octavianavila2418
@octavianavila2418 Жыл бұрын
He just calls it Duration. It got a 4.5 the surnail strip makes it the only shingle with a triple layer. It’s great and all I use for high wind and look.
@markkeller9378
@markkeller9378 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Agree with what many have said here that tests should carry different weights. As a homeowner I care about longevity, looks (roof sealing, lie flat, etc), when do roofs start to fail (brittle, lose granules, crack), impact test with different steel balls at different heights and finally….that dreaded algae prohibitory. If I spend $20k for a roof it needs to look great for a very long time. No streaking or fading, strong sealing, how heat and cold extremes affect each shingle, etc. ……nice job on this, but maybe skew this more towards homeowners. Maybe ask roofers how many issues / return visits by shingle mfg, over a year.
@kimwillis8144
@kimwillis8144 2 жыл бұрын
DITTO
@Bob-um1dq
@Bob-um1dq 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel provides excellent information. I'm in the process of building a new home, and knowing the best roofing options are critical. Thank you very much
@dlg521
@dlg521 Жыл бұрын
I have a question for you. I am a homeowner finding out more about shingles before I contract out the job to replace my roof. At the 26:31 mark in the video there's a roofer that is using what looks to be a hand nailer but he is not nailing anywhere near the nail strip that was discussed in this video earlier. Am I way out of line and wondering about this? Thanks in advance
@michelecollier6856
@michelecollier6856 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this valuable information by professionals. It gave me an insight into choosing a quality product to rely on for the next 20 years in the hurricane prone area of Florida.
@genaromontelongo1026
@genaromontelongo1026 3 жыл бұрын
Right on!! Atlas Pinnacle Pristine did as expected!
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir. Atlas surprised this year! Great roofing products!
@EdStaniszewski
@EdStaniszewski Жыл бұрын
Still no word on the Tamko Titan? Roofer brought over Certainteed Landmark and the Titan. They are very comparable by feel and touch, thickness. He said he could also lay Owens Corning Duration. Owens and Certainteed are a little more. Which is best?
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 Жыл бұрын
Don’t recommend anything Tamko
@scottcarruthers9204
@scottcarruthers9204 2 жыл бұрын
Iko seems to be the most popular asphalt shingles here in Saskatchewan, Canada. I personally try to upsell my clients to rubber shingles. Hail proof and wind proof up to 160mph.
@kenndecareaux149
@kenndecareaux149 2 жыл бұрын
What about rating companies based on the companies easiest to work with when warranty problems occur?
@JB-il8cw
@JB-il8cw 2 жыл бұрын
im no roofer but the pull test should be done shingle over shingle after heated and cooled. that would let you test the bonding of the shingle to shingle in the pull, '
@nebraskaninkansas347
@nebraskaninkansas347 3 жыл бұрын
Love how Atlas's Facebook page sent me to this video.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
They did? Good for atlas!!!
@DavidSummerly
@DavidSummerly 3 жыл бұрын
What a difference! Love the Atlas Team!
@Creative-Chaos
@Creative-Chaos 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see what is recommended for entry level homes. I'm not suggesting prices but instead guidelines on what to look for as it pertains to type of home owned. A fancier home might use one type of shingles while a least expensive home uses a different kind.
@ryanzacharias9339
@ryanzacharias9339 2 жыл бұрын
As a roofer from saskatchewindy (saskatchewan, canada) id like to see reviews on the sealant bonding strength as well as strength in cold weather. If you bring those two tests in it'll drastically change those shingle scores.
@dannytome3389
@dannytome3389 Жыл бұрын
Iko dynasty vs gaf timberland, which one would you recommend?
@rayphillips9563
@rayphillips9563 3 жыл бұрын
You could add one more category (10)... The Malarkey Vista shingle was the only shingle tested, that had a Class #3 Impact rating and is the only shingle you can install in lower temperatures.
@joshuam7172
@joshuam7172 2 жыл бұрын
Not anymore, IKO Dynasty is a class 3 impact shingle now and also the hip & ridge. Lower temperature install is always curious to me. IKO Nordic with it's SBS tech and poly modified asphalt, being a class 4 impact shingle, is able at lower temps.
@aaronb4936
@aaronb4936 2 жыл бұрын
Just because you CAN install in lower temp doesn’t mean you SHOULD
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 Жыл бұрын
I havent got them on my house But I did ask a roofer to bring by samples of malarky vista , a certainteed and a malarky ecoasis nex...I asked if he would mind me doing some torture tests on the samples.. these were full length shingles.. I rolled up each on like a burrito, ticht, then stepped on it then unrolled to check for damage.. he was shocked.. the eco asis had cracked, the certainteed did as well.. the vista seemed a different animal.. it was noticeably more rubbery, flexible.. granules stayed more intact and it was Almost resistant to any damage.. not perfect but 90% damage free
@unpopularopinion149
@unpopularopinion149 3 жыл бұрын
OC duration nail strip only overlaps the bottom laminated portion by 3/8 of an inch. If you nail at the top of the nail strip it only goes through the single bond area on the top half of the shingle. The strip does help with bonding just helps with pull strength.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
True but that’s not the only thing to look at in roofing shingle!
@unpopularopinion149
@unpopularopinion149 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 I agree I just don’t think the nail zone is as beneficial as they make it sound. If the entire strip was where the common bond area was it might be the best in terms of bailing.
@RobChapala
@RobChapala 3 жыл бұрын
They are good shingles built well, doesn't matter if you miss, the manufacture bonds them very well
@245-etf
@245-etf 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 m
@andrewjames1613
@andrewjames1613 3 жыл бұрын
Our local ABC stopped carrying the Atlas pinnacle (booo) so now we use OC, HDZ and landmark. I like the OC alot. Thank you for doing the review
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you need new supplier! Try SRS
@andrewjames1613
@andrewjames1613 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 no SRS here in Buffalo,NY weatherpanel,Miris or ABC
@patriciaosborne8940
@patriciaosborne8940 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful Video !!! That you for helping with reviews about the shingles!!!
@jonollom2367
@jonollom2367 Жыл бұрын
In another video I watched a few months ago you said the new shingle guide would be coming out soon... Is that still in the works?
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 Жыл бұрын
Yes, should be our in few weeks
@roofingtips
@roofingtips 3 жыл бұрын
I’m proud of Atlas! Good job dreamworks and Roofing insights!
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys! Wish you could join us this year! Maybe next?
@roofingtips
@roofingtips 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 that would be a lot of fun
@nbrco6140
@nbrco6140 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this! Thank you Roofing Insights!
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother!!! Hope we didn’t disappoint this year!
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Hope we didn't disappoint this year!
@preferredexteriors9798
@preferredexteriors9798 3 жыл бұрын
This video should get a million views! Very helpful! 😁
@charlieanderson4449
@charlieanderson4449 3 жыл бұрын
Great content here for roofers and homeowners alike!
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Brother!!! Thank you so much for all your help!
@jonanderson738
@jonanderson738 Жыл бұрын
I got quoted for an Atlas Pinnacle roof for $14,800, however, a tuff ribb metal roof would only be $18,400. is it better to just go up to the tuff ribb metal? is 14,800 pretty avg cost for Atlas? Thanks for this video! Very helpful.
@highcommandroofingllc1636
@highcommandroofingllc1636 Жыл бұрын
The weight is the extra granials they put into packaging because the shingles loose 40% granials when you open the package 😅 and throw them around pabco is bad with this!! OC looses the least. We only install OC best in our area and market.
@jackroads2439
@jackroads2439 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could tell me what kind of Lawyers handle this kind of thing if you have problems with the contractor using materials from other co that would cancel the warranties from like Owin Corning . The contractor told me the work is only warrantied for 2 years and the shingles for 25 years, but if they don't use the right underlament or from another co the won't honor it.TY for a reply P.S. I also want to know if the home owner has to register the Warrantee because how can you tell if the contractor has done it or not ?
@juancarlosm2033
@juancarlosm2033 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a 1950 old house with no plywood I want to install a 1/2 4x8 Osb plywood And does are my roofing options after my own search 🤦🏻‍♂️🤯🤪 1- CertainTeed Landmark pro 2- Malarkey Vista 3- Owens Duration 4- Malarkey Highlander I like Atlas StormMaster but is more $$ by the way, I like the CertainTeed pro. but my friend told me, that this roof is more heavy plus I put a lot of weight with the new plywood to are this damage the structure on some point? I have 0 experience on Roofing. Can you guys help me 🙏 to pick the best Roof option for my house? By the way I live on Wichita,Ks a lot of Wind 💨 and tornadoes 🌪 area. thanks a lot!!
@texasroofer2204
@texasroofer2204 3 жыл бұрын
The comparing apples to oranges to tomatoes was entertaining. IR, SBS, Entry level lams, ect. Next time try multiple bundles from different runs/colors and see what happens.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, everything was about the same price in this test.
@texasroofer2204
@texasroofer2204 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 would you compare a Ford pickup truck to a Tahoe or a Tahoe to a Subaru because they were the same price? Different shingles are used for different areas of the country. In parts of Texas an SBS shingle melts under your feet and scuffs.
@unpopularopinion149
@unpopularopinion149 3 жыл бұрын
@@texasroofer2204 what shingle doesn’t melt in Texas then?
@texasroofer2204
@texasroofer2204 3 жыл бұрын
@@unpopularopinion149 asphalt
@SFurbandog
@SFurbandog 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, your videos are EXCELLENT! I needed to get get quickly informed and you are helping.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for feedback!
@captainmo3064
@captainmo3064 Жыл бұрын
Install 10,000 square a year OC Duration. No issues. Replace GAF / TAMKO all day that’s less then 15 years old.
@ronaldoleksy8264
@ronaldoleksy8264 3 жыл бұрын
Hey wondering I just put on my roof Landmark, Cottage red having a big problem with discoloration. The rep said needs to weather down in a few months 50 square roof. I'm not convinced. Your thoughts?. Great video
@marlinmiller7321
@marlinmiller7321 3 жыл бұрын
You need to test the seal strips not just nail strips...Owens Corning has a good nail strip but 8 of 10 blowoff repair calls I get are Owens Corning because of their poor seal strips...GAF and Certainteed (the other 2 common options in our area) never get those call because of much better seal strips. My 3 cents😄
@jonh901271
@jonh901271 3 жыл бұрын
That's very useful feedback, Marlin. Thank you!
@jeffreycarpenter2062
@jeffreycarpenter2062 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Marlin. Are those blowout repairs from Oakridge or Duration? Just curious. I've never had an issue with Duration specifically with sealing here in New England.
@agajohanna428
@agajohanna428 3 жыл бұрын
IKO brand are shocking for blow-offs, regardless of which style you use. Shingle cement is recommended for a reason, especially with IKO
@davidbrakefield188
@davidbrakefield188 2 жыл бұрын
That's not true. I've never seen a Duration shingle blow off. They seal fast and you can't get them apart.
@kishoregolla09
@kishoregolla09 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Which one is best between OC Duration vs Atlas Pinnacle Pristine for NE Florida?
@kore996
@kore996 3 жыл бұрын
How is GAF Timberline HDZ for Canada or longer winter conditions? Would Owens Corning be a better option for winter conditions?
@Finestizpro
@Finestizpro 3 жыл бұрын
great informative video I'm actually excited to replace my roof next year 😂
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! What city are you from? We will give recommendation!
@ivtec845
@ivtec845 3 жыл бұрын
Add BP to the list of not recommended lol. The last 2 roofs we did this week I tried out the atlas shingles due to them being bigger in size an inch over 40+ rows of shingles really adds up quick.
@jimmystate
@jimmystate 2 жыл бұрын
love these videos you do. you put SO MUCH into these videos. thank you! (consumer not installer)
@chrisparmenter9582
@chrisparmenter9582 3 жыл бұрын
I love the information as always and I know malarkey has a great shingle. I will continue to stand behind pabco though! The nail zone sucks, it sucks bad. What I say every year and will continue to say is get on a roof and pull some shingles that are 20+ years old and see how they held up. Pabco will outlast em all. Just pulled a pabco roof that was from November 1998. I know that because it was printed right on the release tape. 23 years old and the only wear was under the downspouts. Until you can incorporate longevity in the mix it’s not totally accurate. Homeowners hear 30-50 year warranty and automatically think that’s how long a roof lasts.... well, pabco would last that long. I’ve pulled a 26 year old pabco roof and it was still holding out. No one single other shingle on the market can do that. Not from what I’ve seen at least. Even seen malarkey at 4 years old putting and I have photo proof of all of this. Have tons of in the field examples all over here in little independence oregon. Should have came down on your trip, but I guess you only know what contractors you want to talk to. I could have drove you around all day and pointed out several manufacturers and the failure that they have.
@spiketaterman5181
@spiketaterman5181 3 жыл бұрын
My Pabco roof in SW Idaho has lasted 27 years. But going with OC Duration or GAF HDZ this time due to high winds.
@Eastahtata
@Eastahtata 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiketaterman5181 I'm in N Idaho and had Pabco 3 tabs last about 18 years. They were blowing off with every significant wind storm. Just got done replacing them with HDZs
@EdStaniszewski
@EdStaniszewski Жыл бұрын
What about the Tamko Titan? A roofer gave me a lower estimate using these shingles. Hes bring actual shingles over, Tamko titan and Certainteed next week. Tamko seems to have a bad rep. But im reading good things in regards to the new titan.
@thomaskalladan4065
@thomaskalladan4065 2 жыл бұрын
It was a educational and great information about roofing shingles. Thanks.
@juliuspereira7067
@juliuspereira7067 2 жыл бұрын
Thank your for the insights into shingles. Love the detail. Quick question - is this rating valid for 2022 too or are you planning to do a similar comparison for 2022 any time soon.
@Faustywang
@Faustywang 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Good video. Very informative. I am right in the middle of getting a new roof, and of course all that fun, so this is appreciated.
@jeffreycarpenter2062
@jeffreycarpenter2062 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job! I'd like to see a few more categories added based on warranty. Upfront, manufacturers, prorated etc. As you've said many times before, warranty issues can be a huge turn off! So, peace of mind for homeowners and contractors alike.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Great feedback! Warranties are hard: they written by lawyers and have to be reviewed by lawyers! But we are on it!
@kimwillis8144
@kimwillis8144 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 Happy this is considered as well. I am going through the knowledge stage before I get the new roof, so this video was a great help and look forward to the others. I see you have one on warranties as well so will watch that one too. Thanks for your dedication to helping people.
@GeraltofRivia5150
@GeraltofRivia5150 2 жыл бұрын
Why isn't F Wave or any shingles like that listed?
@desertskyroofing
@desertskyroofing 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video. Just a thought, each category examined weighs the same. This means not being reviewable weighs the same as the nail strength. We all know that being reviewable doesn't directly effect how well the shingle performs. Perhaps each category should be given an importance factor and then worked out in the numbers? With that said, this is super helpful so keep up the great work!
@Bwanar1
@Bwanar1 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your logic, but not being reviewable is a choice they make; and it's usually for a reason.
@travismoon2570
@travismoon2570 2 жыл бұрын
Super easy to follow. Gives easy to implement ideas 💡
@roofinninja6729
@roofinninja6729 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review😎👍(24 yrs in the biz) couple of things to mention.. first off the Malarkey 'vista eye warning. As a contact wearer, the fine dust blow back makes them impossible to lay without eye protection..(2)the Atlas pinnacle..I've had a problem with the shingles sliding slightly during packaging making the plastic and seal strip not align so they are stuck together and tear when attempting to seperate(great shingle though).. My favorite shingle to install would have to be OC Durations..and i agree with everyone else on tamko👎they dont seal at all
@roofer850channel4
@roofer850channel4 3 жыл бұрын
Good job. Tamko really deserves to be at the very bottom for a reason right now. I only recommend Landmarks. The HDZ's may be the best thing GAF has had in decades though.
@anewzack78
@anewzack78 2 жыл бұрын
GAF HDZ shingles within the last 3-5 years have really increased their game
@asepo3
@asepo3 3 жыл бұрын
Just a homeowner looking to learn a little more about shingles as I am replacing hail-damaged roof - finding your videos and information helpful. Thanks.
@jeffjohnson48
@jeffjohnson48 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, keep up the great work. One request. A value/price score. Atlas is a great value when priced next to OC Duration or IKO Dynasty. Glad to see GAF in the test this year.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Good call! Will do next year for sure! Price is hard, because manufacturers dont set market price, suppliers do...
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 - survey multiple suppliers, especially ones that carry multiple manufacturers and styles. There will be a trend that can be observed, as to which tend to be priced higher vs lower.
@joshuam7172
@joshuam7172 2 жыл бұрын
The trend of pricing will always revolve around the top manufacturers, none of them will price too low or too high mostly..... They all remain rather competitive.
@jaysharp4348
@jaysharp4348 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful information for homeowners. Thank you. I live in Mustang, Oklahoma (suburb of Oklahoma City). We are getting more and larger hail each year. What brand and model would you suggest for my area. Cost is naturally a factor also, so metal roofing is out of my range. Thank You.
@phouviengsalith3976
@phouviengsalith3976 3 жыл бұрын
I advise u use malarkey legacy shingles u would be buying local to since there's a malarkey roofing plant there
@DavidS-ox3li
@DavidS-ox3li 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the comparison. Would these findings apply to higher end shingles as well? I'm curious how the Malarkey Windsor would compare to the Presidential TL in terms of durability.
@johnmarcucci5992
@johnmarcucci5992 3 жыл бұрын
If you're testing IKO Cambridge and Dynasty you should be also be testing the CertainTeed Landmark and Landmark Pro shingles. Would be fair considering I use 60% Landmark Pro's.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Next year we will have like 16 products. Certainties needs to answer their phone and send us product next time. Not begging for it anymore. Worst brand to hear back from! They think they are too big to fail and too important for us!
@shaneMcguire1981
@shaneMcguire1981 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 no ones asking you to begg, just tell the people watching in the video that this is the lowest priced architectural shingle in their Line or the best.
@macpro5937
@macpro5937 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the basic landmark is not comparable to most of those shingles. The landmark pro is much more comparable. If you want to be the guru of shingles go buy a few bundles and compare apples to apples.
@chrisparmenter9582
@chrisparmenter9582 3 жыл бұрын
Same with pabco premier and malarkey. Get legacy, prestige and all the other 50 year shingles too. Then we do a presidential series as well.
@RCR740
@RCR740 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fair price comparison. Dynasty is exactly comparable to standard landmark and duration. Landmark pro is in another price category
@karlozlopez8535
@karlozlopez8535 3 жыл бұрын
Which one do you recommend to choose from oc duration ,malarkey Highlander and gaf hdz?
@webguyz1
@webguyz1 4 ай бұрын
You should also have compared with major retail brands like Corning and GAF. Seems like roofers don't like to compare these. Can you?
@soprano3683
@soprano3683 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos! I agree with a lot of what you say and tried a few of your recommendations. Your shingle comparisons are very helpful. GAF, OC CertainTeed are the top 3 you see in my area. You know Owens Corning has a great product because I always have to explain to customers, they are such a great shingle, they need more time to cure than others.
@davidelmer4302
@davidelmer4302 Жыл бұрын
Why not state the weights?
@finnsdad8086
@finnsdad8086 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Always a success with Roofing Insights!
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dantheman8279
@dantheman8279 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video. I would like to have a longevity rating too since reroofing is a big expense.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
comment away guys!
@zehuazhou3390
@zehuazhou3390 2 жыл бұрын
No comparison with IKO Cambridge?
@chrismitchell8914
@chrismitchell8914 3 жыл бұрын
Certainteed has a weak nail line, the nails go through the shingles unless you hit the hurricane line. Malarkey has a great nail line but gets tacky on hot days. . Tamko shatters when you gun it. Owens Corning has a excellent nail line that can be shot on in any temperature that I have ever seen but is difficult to cut with a hook blade
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
great points! Can tell you are roofer :)
@phouviengsalith3976
@phouviengsalith3976 3 жыл бұрын
Malarkey get tacky on hot days cause our shingles are made from recycled plastic bottles and tire rubber bet u didn't no that
@shaunmullins1219
@shaunmullins1219 3 жыл бұрын
Cost category. As a customer having a new roof done, my Contractor uses OC as a Norm, but can install others at request including Marlakey and Atlas. As the end customer I'm more worried about the use durability and reality of the product lasting and standing up as long as possible far more than I am about reputation and feedback or weight. On the cost side if one product is $5 more a square than OC but has the same or better on durable test, or even if they are the same but color options are different i may pay a little extra OoP for the added durability or color to either everything else being equal. However if OC and Malarkey Highlander otherwise the same (just example)but OC are $50+ a square higher then I probably want to go w the Highlander. And for people on a budget a couple hundred either for cosmetic appeal or peace of mind may be worth it w/o breaking the bank, vs spending a couple grand on added product cost for the same result just because of a company namesake.
@philindeblanc
@philindeblanc 2 жыл бұрын
agreed. Another major factor is the area one is using the material. I am thinking some MFG will be better for hot climates vs those for snow and hail, or year round rain. this is a foundational category to have distinguished the products line.
@TXHORNS210
@TXHORNS210 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of good options- as a roofing contractor in Texas i only use and recommend ATLAS with scotchgard.
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Do you experience any shortages yet?
@TXHORNS210
@TXHORNS210 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 with my suppliers no they are stocked up always luckily
@joshuam7172
@joshuam7172 2 жыл бұрын
That's wild you are in Texas and don't sell TAMKO, I always figured they ran the market because their home office is there. Atlas came in super strong and the Scotchgard Brand is something everyone is already aware of, probably makes you super competitive.
@TXHORNS210
@TXHORNS210 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuam7172 tamko has always been a garbage shingle we used to buy truckloads of them bc it as $50sq but lots of issues. Now tamko has their class 4 stormfigher I believe it's called 150mph wind rating insane havent used it yet
@mashuflynn
@mashuflynn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏 for being transparent, and honesty
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@theroofguru807
@theroofguru807 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I'm a iko pro 4 contractor. . Dynasty is a great shingle
@RoofingInsights3.0
@RoofingInsights3.0 3 жыл бұрын
Roof Guru, can you tell us about their Pro 4 contractor program? Whats are the benefits and how do you archive highest status?
@arnw7933
@arnw7933 3 жыл бұрын
I just did a 200 square job with iko and there where 4 very different shades of color you can see from a mile away . Iko rep said it's the oils and will all match after a few months . Sense you are an iko installer have you came across this or is he B.S.
@jaimebenitez3208
@jaimebenitez3208 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnw7933 that's not just iko. I install tamko. Does the same. Especially with weatherwood wood.
@theroofguru807
@theroofguru807 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnw7933 hey there. So we over 100 iko roofs a year . And when they are fresh shingles . Straight from the plant type thing. Then yes they do do that occasionally . I've deal with it a few times a season. . Once they settle and the oil drys up then yes they start to match . Takes anywhere from a week to a month or so
@theroofguru807
@theroofguru807 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoofingInsights3.0 I like it alot. They give us a standard to uphold. And a system to install. . Then every receipt that you provide back at the end of the year that has 4 iko products on it theyll pay you back 4 bucks per sq
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