Looking back at Capcom vs SNK 2, a true masterpiece among Fighting Games!

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@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
At last here is the CvS2 video! Capcom vs SNK 2 turns 20 years old later this year and simply put its one of the best fighting games ever made, hands down! So with that, its time to look back and the game and what made it so great, from the presentation, to the mechanics, to the almighty groove system and more! We can only hope one day its ported forward to modern systems, and hopefully in a way that involves rollback netcode :) This video took quite some time to make, so any likes/shares sincerely appreciated!
@Tweaked818
@Tweaked818 3 жыл бұрын
I love this game as much as you do. I even went out and got a modded dreamcast from ebay solely for this! I hope we can see it make a comeback in the future.
@Elpha22
@Elpha22 3 жыл бұрын
JFC, 20 years old? LMFAO, damn I'm getting old. I remember when this game first dropped. It was freaking awesome!
@miggypeso909
@miggypeso909 3 жыл бұрын
I love this game. Great review. I just wish they included Blue Mary,Andy,and Billy Kane. Never understood why they where left out.
@semmelboesel
@semmelboesel 2 ай бұрын
Soooooo?????😮
@NexZu-
@NexZu- 3 жыл бұрын
Friend - aight lets play some cvs, what stage. Me- *Stare* Friend -look man there are other stages with really good songs! Me-*Stare* Friend - .... god dam it. "Picks London* Me- ♬This is true love we makin♬
@alberthurt9472
@alberthurt9472 2 жыл бұрын
Every. Time
@vaiyt
@vaiyt Жыл бұрын
This is tuna with bacon
@Son_Of_Nel
@Son_Of_Nel 3 жыл бұрын
The special intros for characters when they faced off were magical. The Bosses all had great ones against each other
@chickrepelant
@chickrepelant 2 жыл бұрын
the Rugal Guile intro is SUCH a meta deep cut
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 3 жыл бұрын
CVS2 had: 1. Many characters 2. Many Grooves 3. Many modes 4. Many bosses
@srseki
@srseki 3 жыл бұрын
5. Many fans
@zhaf
@zhaf 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I love CvS2. I'd say they could have made the cast and grooves more diverse. This was essentially Street Fighter vs KoF with just a few added characters from other games. I would have liked it if they had cut down on Street Fighter and KoF characters and added more characters from their other fighting games. And perhaps added a Dark Stalkers groove a Project Justice groove instead of A and P and so on.
@orlanzo2621
@orlanzo2621 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhaf Yea CvS1 was even worse, the only characters that weren't from either SF or KOF were Morrigan and Nakoruru. So i was thankful CvS2 at least gave us characters like Haohmaru, Hibiki, and Kyosuke.
@magnetoisbroken
@magnetoisbroken 2 жыл бұрын
6. A great soundtrack
@TheMixedPlateFrequency
@TheMixedPlateFrequency 2 жыл бұрын
Many fun
@scottnotpilgrim
@scottnotpilgrim 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest: This deserves a remaster with rollback netcode
@kiriljurjev
@kiriljurjev 3 жыл бұрын
it's on fightcade
@AntaresArcade
@AntaresArcade 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiriljurjev it's not rollback, the emulator sucks
@srseki
@srseki 3 жыл бұрын
I see some AI software can remaster pixel sprites into HD quality, wish it would come true for CVS2
@patrickcarr9906
@patrickcarr9906 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiriljurjev Null BEAR seems to be the better route.
@CaptainSlapaDome
@CaptainSlapaDome 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't say, "I'm gonna be honest", are you lying?
@troytheguilty
@troytheguilty 3 жыл бұрын
How had this still not been re-released? Legit insane
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
harder to re-release things when multiple companies are involved. That said(and you can see the vid I made on it a few weeks back) things are in a really good spot on that front with SNK and Capcom lately, so there's a strong chance
@troytheguilty
@troytheguilty 3 жыл бұрын
@@rooflemonger 🤞
@somebodyelse766
@somebodyelse766 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably on it's way... 🤞🏿
@legalam
@legalam 2 жыл бұрын
Might be coming back soon!
@MrLandega
@MrLandega Жыл бұрын
@@legalam Ha! Buddy...the big WHAT IF...A sequel? More characters from a wider variety of games on both sides and individual interactions between said characters??? More grooves AND perhaps a way to create your own groove? It has been over 20 friggin years but the hype has returned! Even if we just get to reintroduce CVS 1 or 2 with top quality netcode, generations of new competitors await...I'm in.
@lepapanouwel4663
@lepapanouwel4663 3 жыл бұрын
The COLOR EDIT MODE was the greatest thing ever
@adolphineatingchildren2641
@adolphineatingchildren2641 3 жыл бұрын
more games should have that, super Saiyan ken vs fist of north star ryu was childhood
@chicco5033
@chicco5033 3 жыл бұрын
Now imagine if it would be implemented today... 1.99$ please.
@adolphineatingchildren2641
@adolphineatingchildren2641 3 жыл бұрын
@@chicco5033 nah 4.99
@lepapanouwel4663
@lepapanouwel4663 3 жыл бұрын
@@adolphineatingchildren2641 omg Kenshiro Ryu is such a good idea, I'll do it lol, I had a "Oni Dan" which consisted of a shadowy Dan lol
@lepapanouwel4663
@lepapanouwel4663 3 жыл бұрын
@@chicco5033 tbh it was free in SF X TEKKEN
@mr.anonymous4806
@mr.anonymous4806 3 жыл бұрын
This game was the game that got me into fighters when i was around 9. Such a masterpiece.
@filipedeataideramos
@filipedeataideramos 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! And here I am, 36 y/o, starting my fighting game carrer (bought all these games and having a blast!). hahaha
@shen-long9082
@shen-long9082 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipedeataideramos *carrier
@filipedeataideramos
@filipedeataideramos 2 жыл бұрын
@@shen-long9082 Thank you:)
@realtalk6195
@realtalk6195 Ай бұрын
@@filipedeataideramos * career
@doctorwolfman5221
@doctorwolfman5221 3 жыл бұрын
Back in my days as a high school stoner putting 100 hours a week into this game with buddies, we realized that since Ken is in the game, but Robert isn’t, Ken doesn’t have the money to cover the tournament prize and needs to win. It being a team tournament is so that Ryu can be used as a ringer.
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
haha never thought of it that way, true enough! I guess Robert is just a lot richer than Ken is.
@TheMasterBlaze
@TheMasterBlaze 3 жыл бұрын
@@rooflemonger Doesn't the Garcia family fortune keep the Art of Fighting gang afloat? Like, a whole dojo and marketing?
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMasterBlaze probably, Robert paid for kings friends bills in AoF2, so he probably just bankrolls everything
@orlanzo2621
@orlanzo2621 3 жыл бұрын
Yea i always thought it was weird that Robert helped finance the tournament along with Ken but wasn't in the roster, lol.
@alberthurt9472
@alberthurt9472 2 жыл бұрын
Deep 420
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
This month is the Guilty Gear Strive beta! When that hits expect tons and tons of coverage, guides, streams, and all that! Also in the near future got more silly video ideas, and of course whatever news comes our way!
@NekoDavid
@NekoDavid 3 жыл бұрын
This is my all time favorite fighting game. I had never even heard of SNK before this game. Then I went back and played everything I could. I love the KoF franchise so much, Terry and Clark are my favorites
@michaeljohnson588
@michaeljohnson588 3 жыл бұрын
This game is so much fun. I have it for the Sega Dreamcast and it never gets old in my book.
@Liteyears11
@Liteyears11 3 жыл бұрын
True Love was put into Making this game
@tomasparant8901
@tomasparant8901 3 жыл бұрын
Along with some tuna and bacon, _for good measure._
@thewagelessmage9866
@thewagelessmage9866 3 жыл бұрын
"And I could spend another hour talking of the competitive scene" yeah, please do!!
@NLGunners
@NLGunners Жыл бұрын
Right!!!
@StarkMaximum
@StarkMaximum 3 жыл бұрын
I KNEW THAT GROOVE WAS IN YOUR HEART Immediate like for CVS2.
@kogazor
@kogazor 3 жыл бұрын
My gf back then liked CVS2 a lot while I was obsessed with KoF, I wish we had played more together. This apex game closed a golden era when fighting games were generously overflowing with features, characters, extra animations, special intros & win poses, killer soundtracks, gameplay, masterful sprite art, etc. We live in a different world now. I remember an interview with SNK telling that at some point in the nineties, the dev teams were basically given carte blanche, instead of tight deadlines or budgets. And it shows.
@beebeefoke1205
@beebeefoke1205 3 жыл бұрын
just thinking of what a CVS3 could be and all the kind of new groves they could do.: - a groove with focus attack/supercombo/ultracombo like SFIV - a groove with Vskill/Vtrigger/CriticalArt like SFV. - a groove with charging supers/Pandora like SFxT. - a groove with roll/max mode/cancelable supers like Kof. etc. etc.
@rimzaaah5892
@rimzaaah5892 10 ай бұрын
That's be so cool omg
@CSlinger
@CSlinger 3 жыл бұрын
I just can't believe that CVS2 stole Rooflemonger's theme music for a stage.
@testament0
@testament0 3 жыл бұрын
Worth mentioning that this game's announcer has been living in my mind rent-free for two decades. "Keep rocking baby"
@ragfarok
@ragfarok 3 жыл бұрын
Talking about presentation and personality, this game had loads of special character entrance, something that late fighting games lack. Seeing Ken give Terry his cap back is truly heart warming!
@TekkenShazam
@TekkenShazam 3 жыл бұрын
Easily one of my favorites and helped introduce me to SNK. Always glad I got it. Another favorite that I wish would return are all the stylized char intros. Like Terry vs Ken, Iori vs Bison, Iori vs Kyo, etc. all these little touches that added so much identity and flourishes to the matches. Hopefully a follow up video at some point about roll canceling? Like the history and the impact it had for various chars.
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 3 жыл бұрын
The final Osaka stages, the arena, the rooftop and the burning city stages have vibes similar to the Disney movie The Lion King: 1. Dark clouds 2. Lightning storm 3. Fire engulfing the area
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 3 жыл бұрын
20:40 Dramatic/Finest KOs Dramatic Finest KOs are one of the best parts of this game! They are not only fun to perform, but they allow you to get to the secret bosses!
@HavocFGCTV
@HavocFGCTV 3 жыл бұрын
A bit of lore on Shin Akuma in this game - it's actually not the same kind of Shin Akuma/Gouki as usual. The 'standard' one, like how he appears in the Alpha games and 2nd Impact, has Shin written as 真 "True", cause it's basically Akuma going all out and not holding back. Now the Shin Akuma in this game has Shin written as 神 "God", cause he absorbed Orochi power from Rugal and reached a new level of power. It's also worth noting that the character on this 'God' Akuma's back is different than usual. It's usually 天 "Heaven", as in beyond human, but in this game it's actually two characters 神人 "God-Man", as in one who has reached godhood. So it's basically God Rugal vs God Akuma in this game ;)
@legalam
@legalam 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew that, interesting. In SFV when you activate Akuma’s (don’t remember the name of the trigger) and become Shin Akuma, after landing the raging demon, Akuma’s kanji is different than the usual Ten. Is it the same as the one in CVS2?
@HavocFGCTV
@HavocFGCTV 2 жыл бұрын
@@legalam Yes, it's actually the same as in CVS2, 神人 "God-Man"
@sharksocks8130
@sharksocks8130 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this game when I was in middle school back in Mexico, man, it felt like the future, the presentation, everything, I know this might sound as nostalgia but dude when it comes to the impact the game had no other game has come this close
@arod6079able
@arod6079able 2 жыл бұрын
When I went to Mexico as a kid, like deep country mexico, a local tiendita had MvC and we wasted soany fucking pesos on that machine
@sharksocks8130
@sharksocks8130 2 жыл бұрын
@@arod6079able yeah dude those were our arcades, the maquinitas
@pentiumradeon
@pentiumradeon 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharksocks8130 en el soriana they had some arcades and a movie theater even. I remember when mvc2 first came out they had it on this huge machine that was like the centerpiece of the arcade. For me that game was just overwhelmingly good. I had to have it on the dreamcast. Thankfully I was old enough by that point to know how to aquire games to begin with, especially being in mexico. For so long I relied on rentals at the local shops, I missed out on so much during the snes genesis era that I was definitely old enough to enjoy.
@goryn9660
@goryn9660 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me sad, that I never experienced Fighting Games in that era.
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
on the whole fighting games are much more polished these days than back in the day, but the old games certainly left their mark
@orlanzo2621
@orlanzo2621 3 жыл бұрын
@@rooflemonger Ehh true, but fighting games nowadays (in my opinion at least) are more "sanitized", dry, and, safe. At lot of the unbalanced, wacky, and busted stuff is what made older fighting games so fun, lol. Games like CvS2, MvC2, Super Turbo, KOF '98, UMK3, etc had some janky degenerate stuff but they were fun. Fighting games nowadays are so focused on being balanced that they aren't as fun (games like MK 11 and SF5 come to mind)
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
@@orlanzo2621 older games for sure more wacky and imbalanced, but thats exactly the kinda thing people won't stand for anymore honestly. People can like the jank, but its much harder for jank to find legs these days.
@duffman18
@duffman18 2 жыл бұрын
@@rooflemonger that's cos people are dumb. Less than 0.1% of all the matches that will ever played on these games are not gonna be competitive/esports etc. Fighting games have never been only about pro esports. That's a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny fraction of what makes up fighting games. Back in the 90s we used to play fighting games because we enjoyed them. That's it. They were just good games. Nowadays every naive fool who thinks they can win evo complains about the balancing in games even though you have to be a top 0.01% player in the world for any of that to actually make a difference. It's only at the very highest level that anything like that really matters. Fighting games used to be good because they were games first, competitive sports second. It was fun to just play on your own in story mode. But apparently now we have to accommodate all the people who are terrible and will always be terrible but think they'll actually be a successful pro esports player. It's so stupid. Make fighting games fun again. These aren't supposed to be a job, where you have to put in hours and hours of practice each day and if you never do that you'll never have fun. No these games are supposed to be fun regardless of skill level. At least the ones in the 90s and early 2000s did. Even things like tier lists simply do not matter for 99.999% of players. They're just not good enough for it to matter. They can pick the best character in the game or the worst, there'll be no difference. It's only at the top level where the margins are so razor thin that those kinds of things really matter. I guess this is the modern day version of every kid getting a guitar and thinking they're gonna be a world famous rock star. They won't. They should just learn to enjoy having fun playing guitar for its own sake, not try to be competitive when they're not good enough. Fighting games should go back to being fun, and the naive kids should stop kidding themselves. They're all so so so worried about balance even though they'll never be good enough for it to actually affect them. Just enjoy the game, play the character who you think looks the coolest, don't worry about any of the pro-level stuff, you'll never need it. Like it you're gonna go play catch with someone, you don't need to do a months-long MLB training regimen and diet plan with personal world class trainers etc in the months leading up to the big day where you... play catch with your dad. No you just go and play catch. You'll never be good at baseball, you'll never be in the MLB, so don't worry about any of that stuff, and just try to enjoy what you _CAN_ do, what you _ARE_ capable of. Enjoy playing catch. Enjoy playing really dumb, sometimes when really badly made, fighting games. Like, I dunno, clayfighter. It ain't a good fighting game but it's very fun, it's a hell of a lot more fun than trying to jump into a modern street fighter game. And therefore it's the better game. Seriously. Clayfighter is better than street fighter 4 and 5. And it's because those street fighters have lost what made them popular in the first place, EVERYONE played street fighter, and nobody was really very good at it for years, not until tournaments began popping up with legitimate cash prizes, mostly after the 20th century had already ended. Everyone played street fighter before then, and nobody was really very good at it relative to today, and so practically anybody could win at least a few rounds, so everyone had a good time and enjoyed it. Who's gonna casually pick up a fighting game these days? It's something you have to commit to these days, like a job, you have to be dedicated to getting better at it, otherwise you don't have fun with it at all, and even if you do get good at it it's never really fun, not in the way street fighter 2 was. It was so much better back in the day when people weren't going "hmm I could play as Zangief but he doesn't have a lot of good options for overcoming projectile spam blah blah blah blah". No, people just went "hah, that Russian wrestler guy looks cool, I'll pick him". That's what fighting games don't have anymore. Over balancing makes most fighting games worse, not better. Not every single character needs to have every option. Like you don't need to give Zangief zoning tools. Keep each character very distinct. Not every character has to be top tier.
@clemo86v24
@clemo86v24 2 жыл бұрын
@@rooflemonger Don’t you mean, left their mark of the millennium 🤣
@greensun1334
@greensun1334 Жыл бұрын
An amazing title, it's most likely one of the best fighting games ever! Back then, I missed it somehow. But I bought it a few days ago for my PS3. Now, I start to discover its huge content, it's addicting as hell...
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 3 жыл бұрын
23:50-23:60 "Akuma is everywhere. You can't get rid of him." Yep. Akuma was in Street Fighter, Marvel vs Capcom games, the Capcom vs SNK games, Street Fighter X Tekken, Asura's Wrath & even Tekken 7.
@TysonWillert
@TysonWillert 2 ай бұрын
Seeing this game again on my new retro handheld took it to the next level
@abbyrytel
@abbyrytel 3 жыл бұрын
This game getting a GameCube release is what truly got me into fighting games as a kid. Every so often I'd play Marvel vs. Capcom or Tekken 3 at the mall arcade, but this was the first fighting game I owned, the first one I could properly play and learn. If not for this game... I don't know where I would be.
@lounasty69
@lounasty69 3 жыл бұрын
Playing shooters
@MiketheNerdRanger
@MiketheNerdRanger 3 жыл бұрын
That damn England stage is *everyone's* favorite soundtrack 🤣
@LordRaptor
@LordRaptor 3 жыл бұрын
I remember circa 2003-5 going to an Office Depot as a kid, seeing a Playstation 2 stand of Capcom vs SNK 2 and being so enamoured with it that it must've taken my parents almost an extra hour to get me away from it, at the time I wasn't super familiar with what SNK was, but I did know Terry, Joe, Mai, Geese and Rock from Fatal Fury 3 and Garou Mark of the Wolves and I was a HUGE fan of the X-Men/Marvel vs games and the Street Fighter 2 & Alpha games, since I played them every day back then on Kawaks, I wanted this game so badly...
@mloyd64
@mloyd64 3 жыл бұрын
Groves are such an interesting concept.
@TheMixedPlateFrequency
@TheMixedPlateFrequency 2 жыл бұрын
It truly is. It also felt like it sort of changed some of the match ups a bit too.
@KaitouKaiju
@KaitouKaiju 2 жыл бұрын
Very reminiscent of isms
@danielarizmendy5399
@danielarizmendy5399 3 жыл бұрын
The layers man. When you break stuff down, you really break it down. This is why I always watch your guides and breakdowns. Thanks for the hard work
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
thank you friend I try my best! 💪🐵
@mandarinduck5507
@mandarinduck5507 3 жыл бұрын
This game really is the best, had an amazing roster and battle mechanics that appealed to everyone
@BeeLy1011
@BeeLy1011 3 жыл бұрын
14:14 Ah yes, my favorite classic Capcom fighting game...Darkstyles
@supersonicprime
@supersonicprime 3 жыл бұрын
I'm totally here for the hour long competitive deep dive.
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
haha if that were to happen, has to be after strive beta.
@supersonicprime
@supersonicprime 3 жыл бұрын
@@rooflemonger WORTH THE WAIT.
@kamenrider64
@kamenrider64 3 жыл бұрын
Heck I was able to get a hold of a copy of capcom vs snk 2 at a retro game store back in march for only $48 sweet deal right there
@BeanMonsterr
@BeanMonsterr 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great vid roof, I don't get too many opportunities to revisit this game so this was a real treat.
@leandrodavid6256
@leandrodavid6256 3 жыл бұрын
I wish a CvS3 was under development right now!
@AKARazorback
@AKARazorback 3 жыл бұрын
Best fighting game in the past 30 years, hands down. Needs a remake, meaning ... nothing more than updated graphics and online cross play. My wet dream would be this being animated by the Guilty Gear team (best freshest looking cell shaded/ animated fighting game), but playin pretty much as it did back in the day.
@NigzBlackman
@NigzBlackman 2 жыл бұрын
This was super cool, thanks for the review of this one Roof! I had no idea about the Damage buffs and such to the Ratio system! I only ever got to play this casually
@daywalker3735
@daywalker3735 Жыл бұрын
I just downloaded Fightcade and omg it has been so great playing this game again after all these years!!!
@bjordan429
@bjordan429 Жыл бұрын
"...getting these characters is a rare treat." Thank you. Its my single favorite fighting game; and it feels forgotten.
@phdbot4483
@phdbot4483 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say, though I never played this before, I see that its aesthetics hold to this day! The music and art, details, etc. You didn't set "True Love We Makin'" as your outro theme for nothing! I even gave its entire playlist a listen, and I really enjoyed the detail of hearing the announcer as you pick your character! It sounds so inspirational, like a kid walking at the arcades and/or seeing the tournament on the big screen! It's a shame I missed out on such a gorgeous looking fighting game! :D
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
when I was starting the channel and learning things like an end screen, to me once I thought of what the music should be, wasn't even a question, had to be true lovemaking.
@M4TRIX_FuzzionZz
@M4TRIX_FuzzionZz 2 ай бұрын
We back🗣️🗣️
@MrLobran
@MrLobran 3 жыл бұрын
That was the best video I ever saw on the subject of this game. Thanks dude, I always found this game to be very confusing, and you helped to clarify it a lot! Now I will just hope and wait for a remaster or a sequel as everybody else, lol.
@Drew-im7is
@Drew-im7is 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the history of these fighting games. And now I know where your outro song comes from!
@emeraldmann1329
@emeraldmann1329 3 жыл бұрын
This is insane. A 3v3 crossover fighting game, with *6* sets of *system mechanics?* That's amazing.
@tulegaming415
@tulegaming415 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought this game last month, I haven't touched it yet but this video had me pumped for it.
@Choom89
@Choom89 3 жыл бұрын
It's a blast!
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 3 жыл бұрын
22:10 Arcade mode I love playing the arcade mode. Three different endings, two groups of boss fights
@xavierpierre1676
@xavierpierre1676 Жыл бұрын
MAI's bounce is insane hahaha
@rgarciaf071
@rgarciaf071 5 ай бұрын
This game is just on another whole level, it brings so many good memories, thanks for sharing, I wonder how can I play this gem nowadays
@ssjfrosty
@ssjfrosty 3 жыл бұрын
My first time seeing cvs2 was not too long ago, I went on this one channel called "rooflemonger" to learn dbfz and heard the outro music and HAD to search it up
@fatalradius
@fatalradius Жыл бұрын
The tournaments I hosted at my house with this game were unforgettable. The salt, the laughter, blasting the soundtrack...nostalgia hitting me like a train 😢
@cycodamo
@cycodamo 3 жыл бұрын
I had this game, it was amazing - the roster itself was insane, the depth of gameplay on another level. I hope when Digital Eclipse finish remaking Marvel v Capcom 2 they do this as well
@tmanhang
@tmanhang 2 ай бұрын
Im here since this pop up. Guess im sitting down now
@Seven7swords
@Seven7swords 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I love this game. I love the BGM of the London Stage so much. "And now that's what I like to call BIG DAMAGE!" Love the announcer. Everything about this game was amazing. The art, the music, the characters and the gameplay.
@SadikiStGeorgeangemon44
@SadikiStGeorgeangemon44 2 ай бұрын
We’re so back !!!
@zeroshift11
@zeroshift11 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I would love to see a sequel, I think a remake of this game would be way better. In todays state of games, devs would release cvs3 with less than half of the roster, and charge the rest as dlc. A proper seqel is suppose to be bigger with more features and better, that would not be the case sadly. At least in the bigger department.
@rapidkid11
@rapidkid11 3 жыл бұрын
ive never played but really appreciate this breakdown Roofle! i think its pretty clear to see that they dont make fighting games with this amount of depth anymore sadly
@KramerBebop
@KramerBebop 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this, I wish I can get my hands on it sometime. One important part that you didn't talk about... the fact that the game is nowhere to be found on current platforms (alongside kof 11 or early MvC games) :(
@oonkymppa5923
@oonkymppa5923 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! that guy Terry from smash is here too!
@ottosantiagolassus
@ottosantiagolassus 2 ай бұрын
😂
@Irishstile
@Irishstile 3 жыл бұрын
This game is absolutely awesome! When I saw it at GameStop, a few years ago, I ended up buying it, & I had no idea what I was getting myself into! I absolutely love this game! It has all of my favorite characters in it, from both the Capcom, and SNK side! It's an awesome game to add to your collection! I love it!
@DecepySwag
@DecepySwag 3 жыл бұрын
This is what introduced me to SNK. I already got a new melty blood coming, please gaming gods give me the other part of my fighting game wish. Rerelease this with rollback on all platforms cross play. I would cry.
@fart3312
@fart3312 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite fighting game of all time. I remember playing this for hours in a Las Vegas arcade when I was a kid, 20 years ago. Used to have tournaments in the dorms on PS2 when I was in college and everyone got really into it. Good times
@Domdizzle33
@Domdizzle33 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Had no idea this game even existed. As a tekken fan it’s crazy to think T7 wasn’t the first game to be able to put geese against akuma LOL
@Jaybaybay2838
@Jaybaybay2838 3 жыл бұрын
If this was a full hour and you went into the competitive side of the game, I would definitely watch it. I would also watch this similar format of video if applied to other fighting games. Its great to hear someone talk about the things they like and you do a good job showing what's there to like. Also I can't believe I didn't know so much about the groove system before. Blew my mind learning I was playing most of those grooves all wrong
@madeuinheavan108
@madeuinheavan108 3 жыл бұрын
Dude if this ever gets a remaster I will ACTUALLY CRY
@videosyarego
@videosyarego 3 жыл бұрын
I love fighting games due to this one and MvC2, I had them in my Dreamcast
@Crazy_Dialga
@Crazy_Dialga 3 жыл бұрын
CvS2 is one of those legacy fighting games that I'd love to try out at some point. Also, could you imagine the kinda roster a new CvS game could have
@lorenzovonmatterhorn4756
@lorenzovonmatterhorn4756 2 жыл бұрын
you mean where they milk us for every additional player?
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, imagine characters like K’, Shermie, Alex, and Juri joining the fun, not to mention characters like Felicia, Cham-Cham, Ryoko Izumo, Rouge, Tessa, etc. I could see them going a bit more into the MvC side of things because there’s no MvC in sight nowadays. Morrigan was already pushing it, among others, but who’s to say they don’t go further. Basically everyone unironically wants Fio, they could fish out a Mega Man character to be her counterpart, and Power Battle/Fighters open the floodgates to the series.
@NekoDavid
@NekoDavid 3 жыл бұрын
They need to release this on modern generation concoles / PC with cross play rollback netcode. I've got the disk on PS2 and digital on PS3.
@gnarlyburrito5123
@gnarlyburrito5123 3 жыл бұрын
GET IT NOW and the only game that rivals it is MVC2. GET BOTH OF THEM.
@prawnk1ng
@prawnk1ng 3 жыл бұрын
Got them both. 👍. Virtual tennis 2 is the only other game worthy of playing even today on my Naomi.
@gnarlyburrito5123
@gnarlyburrito5123 3 жыл бұрын
@@prawnk1ng GOOD, now enjoy the blessing that is those 2 fighting games
@felipediasaraujo5497
@felipediasaraujo5497 3 жыл бұрын
I would love a CvS 3 with a groove inspired in KoF XIII bars system
@LoDart210
@LoDart210 3 жыл бұрын
At first I was reluctant to watch a 30 min video but wow, what a gem! I never played cvs2 and always wanted to try it. I knew nothing about it then and after this video I want even more to give it a go, seems like a lot of fun! Thanks for the vid Rooflemonger, A1 fighting game content!
@A3Religion
@A3Religion 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't even watch the video just came to agree that it's a masterpiece and give you a like. Keep it up King.
@FantasyYeet
@FantasyYeet 2 ай бұрын
This game will always hold a special place in my heart. Back then, we didnt know frame data or were we competitive. My friends and I played this game like crazy. We were leaening how to do quarter circle forward. We all played on controller and everyone had different button settings. Loser pass, winner stays. When ever someone passed the controller we had to pause at the start of the new round and chamge the key config. I remember we all loved C groove for the roll. I loves Ryu's super Tatsumaki because when I predict a roll I would just suoer hurricane and they wouls roll right in. My friend loved Joe Higashi amd his double tornado super. Sometimes I rolles into it, yikes. Good times. We just had fun, all of us. Now a days were all playing much better. We know frame traps, bnb, tier list. Back then on svc2 we just random pick to mix it up and random groove. Everyone hated A cause we had no clue how to do custom combos. Activate A groove and just spam stufd lmao!!!! Good times
@josueramirez1372
@josueramirez1372 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I love the "ass" snippet on the name entry. Good job on the video man loves every second of it. Just got the rom for snk 1 on my phone now its time to get the 2nd one.
@danzixx6
@danzixx6 3 жыл бұрын
This game gave me a lot memories on dreamcast and ps2 except on gamecube me and my friends had a lot. Hours of playing this game and mvsc2 and kof 2002 ps2 version before the ultimate match came to console
@duden2217
@duden2217 3 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot about a classic game I've only ever seen played, but the most important thing I learned today is that the E stands for "Edmond."
@CPS2
@CPS2 3 жыл бұрын
Great in-depth review! Thanks for taking the time to appreciate a true great! One thing that always bugged me about this game though is the visual disparity between the sprites and everything else... I wish they'd redrawn all the sprites to be the same resolution as everything else.
@NaotoSaysNo
@NaotoSaysNo 3 жыл бұрын
guile straight up going home to be a family man in his ending
@Wakkowolf
@Wakkowolf 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing hop is in P-groove to help emulate the universal overhead from SF3
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
actually thats fair enough, never thought of it that way. But still even near 20 years on it bugs me that Capcom grooves got "snk stuff", but all in the name of making things equal I guess.
@Xelae93
@Xelae93 3 жыл бұрын
I love this game. I discovered it a couple years after it came out, and it was pretty hard to find where I live. So I asked my dad multiple times to help me get it, and after some nagging, he made himself an ebay account and bought it. That made it all the more special when I got it, and I was incredibly happy. This video was a blast to watch, and I'm glad to see that passion that some of these old fighting games bring out in us. Any chance we could see some similar videos down the line?
@rooflemonger
@rooflemonger 3 жыл бұрын
I did a similar, smaller, retrospective on KoF 13 a few months back, should be at the end of the video? These kinda vids take a long time to make though heh so don't expect them too often. This is like 5-6 "normal" videos worth of effort. Although that said there will be more in the future, right time/right place just needs to hit me.
@LegendaryJiggXV
@LegendaryJiggXV 3 жыл бұрын
I got into the FGC with MK11, so, while I've done my share of historical research, videos like this are always nice.
@numa2k147
@numa2k147 3 жыл бұрын
This game is the only reason I'm using Fightcade. This game is a gem. Btw I main Kyosuke
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 3 жыл бұрын
2:47 Geese & Rugal's appearances were special because they are the bosses
@MartinDemario
@MartinDemario 3 жыл бұрын
This needs to come back
@sisyphus4889
@sisyphus4889 2 ай бұрын
Well its 2024 baby and were getting it!
@zackspiker_
@zackspiker_ 11 ай бұрын
Lowkey this is the game I keep challenging my friends to.
@brandonsellers1076
@brandonsellers1076 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew how to do "Alpha Counters" with fmp/mk nor did I know you could like specials out of lvl 1 supers OR that you could like 2 supers in C Groove. Lol, that's how I lost in semi finals years ago in a CvS2 tourney at an anime convention ACEN.
@chickrepelant
@chickrepelant 2 жыл бұрын
about the presentation: the character select screen has game "rivals" on the mirror side of the board, with familiar normals, or visuals. ryy - kyo, ken - terry dictator - geese boxer - yamazaki 桜 - yuri chun - mai its super cool, even last game's winners, Dan and Joe are on the mirror opposites of the select board
@KenMasters.
@KenMasters. Жыл бұрын
Most of them are mismatches. It should've been: Ryu VS Ryo Me VS Robert Sakura VS Yuri Dan VS Joe Chun Li VS Mai Zangief VS Raiden Guile VS Terry Nash VS Kim Batsu VS Kyo Kyosuke VS Benimaru Rolento VS Iori Maki VS Mature Guy VS Vice Morrigan VS Athena Eagle VS Billy Vega VS Yamazaki Sagat VS Geese Bison VS Krauser Akuma VS Mr. Karate Urien VS Rugal Gill VS Orochi Etcetera VS Etcerta
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Жыл бұрын
@@KenMasters. Mega Man vs Terry for a mascot smash up.
@rzqhipnox1667
@rzqhipnox1667 3 жыл бұрын
Genocide cutter will be stuck on your head by the time you beat Rugal or fight Rugal for the third time since he spams that move like there's no tomorrow.
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 3 жыл бұрын
You talking about ULTIMATE Rugal right?? Regular Rugal is easier to deal with.
@rzqhipnox1667
@rzqhipnox1667 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshualowe959 I am talking about God Rugal.
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 3 жыл бұрын
@@rzqhipnox1667 that's what I thought.
@gmwes
@gmwes 2 жыл бұрын
this is one of my favorite games and favorite youtube videos of all time
@carritohmc
@carritohmc 3 жыл бұрын
My only criticism of CvS2 is that the stages took a step back compared to part 1, I think CvS 1 had some of the best background art out of any fighting game.
@jdrobin1
@jdrobin1 3 жыл бұрын
GOD Rugal was so awesome. He used to kick my ass back in the day
@renkyo7
@renkyo7 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my favorites along with king of fighters 2006 and maximum impact
@prawnk1ng
@prawnk1ng 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favourites of all time. My Naomi cab is always either on MvsC2 or Virtual Tennis 2, but this is a very close third place.
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if during your secret boss fight against Shin Akuma or Ultimate Rugal, you could hear people screaming in pain while being burned alive in the flames of Osaka...
@rookless4121
@rookless4121 2 жыл бұрын
Man... I finally understand the grooves. THANK YOU!!!
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