Roon vs Mistform vs Hapatra vs Mizzix EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

[@smolclips5996]

Misdirection wouldn't be able to change the target of confluence since it in fact had 3 targets not one

[@funkyfish90]

Timothy Terry I immediately went looking for this comment XD

[@MTGMuddstah]

Ah, good to know! I don't think the card is in the deck anymore.

[@smolclips5996]

@@MTGMuddstah maybe replaced with fierce guardianship? ;)

[@MTGMuddstah]

@@smolclips5996 Gosh, I wish! That card is $$$$$

[@jthrone7768]

Just watched a Playing with Power video and seeing everyone on turn 5 with almost full life feels weird.

[@iamthefinal5934]

Love it when a mistform game play comes out. I would love to see changes you've made to it with the last few sets.

[@TxarlesN]

Is always a pleassure to see Mistform. Thanks for the great content, Mr. Muddstah.

[@ianross9475]

Wait, why do people play Mistform? I don't particularly see the appeal...

[@TxarlesN]

It's fun. Just any blue lord works well with Misty.

[@PaulGaither]

4:21 I am a little surprised by the turn sequence of casting Muldrifter before Roon. Roon has a 2cmc activation cost and summoning sickness. He could have cast Roon first, then evoked Muldrifter and flickered it to draw 4 cards instead of two and would still have a flying blocker. If he needed Muldrifter to draw land, then I get it, but I always ramp into Roon first, then cast the cards I want to flicker.

[@Kazz1187]

Tru

[@samson1880]

Sam (that's me!) made a misplay when overloading Mizzix's Mastery. He tapped 1URR when he needed 1RRR. It didn't affect the rest of my turn, but still... Whoops!

[@agusdelutis4220]

Do you have a decklist of the mizzix? I would love to take a look at the deck

[@its_chris2323]

It's kind of worth noting that with Mizzix's Mastery you cast all the copies at once. So you would have known the targets for the Mystic Confluence before he had re-cantripped and used Firemind's Foresight, even tho the Misdirection wouldn't have worked. Still a great game. The early aggro from Kevin had me hoping for a spiky Triumph of the Hordes to knock 2 (or everyone) out.

[@jackfrager2542]

Mtg Muddstah, an idol for commander players. It's always great to see your tribal tribal deck!

[@BrendanChewy]

does Kevin know you can attack with the snakes? they all have deathtouch and the damage really adds up...

[@PaulGaither]

8:38 - Sam cast Firemind's Foresight and then takes the long way around to winning the game by eventually bouncing everything with Storm instead of just going for the Reiterate combo: Firemind's Foresight > Reiterate @3 > any 2cmc ritual such as Reality Spasm or Desperate Ritual > Lightning Bolt or other damage spell at 1cmc. Cast the ritual, then Reiterate for infinite storm and Mana and then win off of pretty much any spell, including the Bolt.

[@samson1880]

This was a super budget build at the time (around $50 or less), so didn''t have the reiterate combo. Temporal fissure was probably the most efficient win-by-salt victory the deck had. I've rejigged the deck now, so there's more interaction in the first few turns, and it includes reiterate/reset/lightning bolt. :) EDIT: I just checked the value of the semi-correct decklist and wow card prices have gone up. archidekt.com/decks/798068#Mizzix,_%22Not_to_be_Generic,_but...%22

[@PaulGaither]

@@samson1880 - Tappedout deck list? I play Mizzix too and am having a hard time getting a list that works WITHOUT having to play high powered (and expensive) cards like Intuition. My current build has that stuff, but it is too linear. Personal Tutor for merchant scroll for intuition for a combo and gg. It has a bunch of dog to find any one of those busted tutors to get to the combo and can often just turn 5 combo out. Turn one a can trip Turn two ramp Turn three interaction/dig Turn four Mizzix with 1cmc and free counterspells to protect her. Turn five or six ccccombo breaker. It is too linear and self piloting and always either gets hated out, fizzles out or wins fast.

[@PaulGaither]

@@samson1880 - Also, I really like Reality Spasm more than Reset. Invert//Invent (Invent half) can be used to find Frantic Search (for that untap goodness) and Past in Flames. Cast Frantic search, untap, cast past in flames, recast Invent to find Reality Spasm and Mind's Desire, cast Reality Spasm to untap and frantic search and then Mind's Desire for 7+, then you can recast Past in Flames to get Mind's Desire for a lot more. This should dig deep to find any number of other combos in the deck.

[@samson1880]

@@PaulGaither tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mizzix-not-to-be-generic-but/ Warning: It is not a good deck haha I'll be updating the archidekt one tonight (the deck has seen some big changes), but the tappedout one I'll keep the same so people have it as a reference. There shouldn't be many differences between the tappedout list and the deck at the time.

[@PaulGaither]

@@samson1880 -You could create another list and link it in the description of this one

[@Keos027]

When I first started to play Commander with my group of friends, we had a Mizzik player. As you mentionned, we quickly learned that Mizzek must not stay on the battlefield. This resulted in my friend playing Mizzek not doing much anymore since we were killing his commander on the spot each time. Mizzek is now part of the 99 and he swapped for a different commander.

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

The last game I played with Mizzix had it being destroyed once, then recast again on the turn that I won. Managed to get off a Mana Drain for 7 on a Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts. Was able to cast Firemind's Foresight for actual combo pieces on end stepp, Mizzix on turn, cast a number of spells to get the rest of the counters I needed, then do the Reiterate, Desperate Ritual, Lightning bolt combo. Then I turned the deck into a combo of "budget" Melek and Nin, the Pain Artist, taking out the expensive counters and mana rocks.

[@suntitan4419]

I always liked the art on Griffin canyon nice to see it in your mistform deck would be nice if they would make a good griffin commander and some good griffins so it could be a tribe

[@Starcraftgamer97]

I want more tribal support in general for lesser known tribes. I want more Wolf/Werewolf legendaries and support.

[@autobotjazz1972]

" I see your a man of culture as well" I died XDDDD

[@cclynchfilm]

That cheeky Dualcaster Mage at the end. Gotta make sure you get that extra bounce

[@AspavientosPC]

Tezzeret's Gambit doesn't copy specific counters, but specific entities for which the counters are added, so when Sam proliferated himself he should have also gotten a poison counter

[@samson1880]

[Pikachu face.jpeg] Good catch. I've been proliferating wrong for years, whoops. EDIT: Apparently this rule changed in 2019. It was still correct at the time of filming (2018). ...Wasn't aware of the rule change until you pointed it out, though. Thanks!

[@MTGMuddstah]

You're quite right in regard to the current rules! This game was actually filmed in 2018, prior to that change though.

[@whatsinadeadname]

I take it this was before the change to proliferate (and thus before the release of War of the Spark), since Sam didn't proliferate all counters on selected players/objects (poison + experience). Of course, it could have just been habit of using card text as opposed to Oracle.

[@MTGMuddstah]

It was filmed in 2018

[@kurowasanabe]

I love me some Snakemaker, I hope the eventual return to New Phyrexia will do her some good.

[@Jonas-fm4po]

Was there a reason behind not drawing a card with Griffin Canyon at 7:21

[@TheHeulerDuarte]

I would love to see the mizzix budget decklist

[@ultiplayer1]

thanks for dropping the music during the game

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

I thought it was eerily quiet.

[@Lawngoose]

Is there a deck list for the Mizzix deck? Would love to see it :)

[@taco4all]

7:03 Depending on whether this was before the rule change or not, the proliferate would have also increased Sam's poison counters as you can no longer choose which counters on a permanent or player to proliferate, it's all or none. Though it wouldn't have made a difference.

[@MTGMuddstah]

taco4all this was filmed in 2018

[@CamaradaKano]

What is the card list of the mizzix deck?

[@jonasvincent3099]

Why didn’t Scavenging Ooze exile any spells before Mizzix Mastery resolved?

[@aidanhavey2368]

Ah yes, tutoring for weezard

[@DeanJayJackmanJr]

Always love a budget deck

[@thisiskindabadass212]

Where are the deck lists, I want to see the mizzix budget deck pwease

[@signisakanades1329]

So it wasn't relevant, but you can't Misdirect Mystic Confluence cast in this way, as Misdirection only works on spells with a single target, and Mystic Confluence had 3 targets.

[@SeanteBrown]

Queen Cleopatra comin atcha. Let’s go infect and snakes. I bet my guy a dub we see the ichor rats in this deck. Don’t disappoint me bro ✊🏾👍🏾

[@MstrKipper]

Exciting looking commanders for this video. Hoping Rune perma exiles a commander by stifling his return trigger lol

[@stephenthomas8405]

Is it possible to get the Mizzix decklist?

[@samson1880]

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mizzix-not-to-be-generic-but/ archidekt.com/decks/798068#Mizzix,_%22Not_to_be_Generic,_but...%22 It might not be exactly the same as it was at the time (this was recorded a while ago), but I've refrained from updating it recently in case people wanted the more accurate version. Now that the video is out, I'll likely update the archidekt version, but can keep the tappedout one the same for posterity.

[@Canuhk]

@@samson1880 I think you mean for posterity :)

[@samson1880]

@@Canuhk Uh oh I made an oopsie. Thanks

[@cosmotect]

What is the story of the Mistform deck?

[@VincentAlucard]

If you copy a spell with storm, does the copied spell has storm as well?

[@FernandoRojas-py6fn]

No it doest, storm say you copy the spell x times, and if you copy an storm spell you only copy 1 more time

[@samson1880]

Storm is an on-cast trigger. Copying it only copies the effect once. So, like Fernando said, you'd have one additional copy on top of the original and all its storm copies.

[@jeremy.oliver]

Not leaving up a counterspell with a know mastery in hand, what mindeset was that?

[@hugooliveira2104]

8:17 am I missing something or did Sam pay for an overloaded mizzix mastery with 3 islands and a mountain? I know the cost of generic mana is reduced by Mizzix and electromancer, but what about those 3 red mana?

[@samson1880]

Yeah, good catch. There was still enough mana of each colour for it not to affect the rest of the turn, but it was definitely a misplay.

[@Schieddog]

Have you been making many new decks?

[@mixmatched2342]

I look away for ONE MINUTE and everyone's got poison counters! Also, I've never seen someone cast that many instants and sorceries in one turn, ever.

[@rafaellumrodas350]

Good stuff man!!!!

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

That was awesome.

[@xxmerkutioxx]

If you tapped the Changeling to draw a card at the end of combat, shouldn't Hapatra have stayed alive?

[@jua3000]

No, it already blocked and just because its tapped doesn't mean it deals no damage

[@faerie7dragon]

Storm is just such a hilarious mechanic.

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

I love Izzet :) So far, my Izzet commander decks have gone Melek into Mizzix in to Melek+Nin and next I think they might add some shadow with Kess, Dissident Mage. We'll see how that goes. I love Mizzix though. Some nuts stuff. Playing Melek a week ago, I cast Mana Geyser off the top to copy it, make 22 mana, cast a Jaya's Immolating Inferno from my hand using Primal Wellspring to copy that while adding another 4 mana in rocks and lands, blasting the table for 50-something. I don't think I'd end up scooping to bouncing my permanents though. His graveyard was exiled and though he had all the cards in the world, you can still do a decent amount of stuff over the next couple turns. I understand the casual nature though, if they're playing what they call budget, they might not put as much into it. Just a fun game.

[@VirtualCheetah]

Ah, a fellow Izzet player

[@saintcyan2505]

When was this recorded?

[@MTGMuddstah]

2018

[@davidvonjohnston]

Thanks Kevin for not playing blue

[@tmarch351]

9:49 missclick in real life will be the new mechanic

[@PaulGaither]

I play Roon and Mizzix. I have two decks to root for here.

[@brandonfrew3221]

Is that the same Sam who played Muldratha?

[@samson1880]

Nope, it's the Sam who played Alesha. :D kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKfbk5mof92IiZY

[@stevenyuskowski1383]

Andrew is love to play a game sometime with you

[@ffjes]

Mistform was new?

[@MTGMuddstah]

This was filmed in 2018, when I had just started playing the deck.

[@behemoth1158]

The blue is strong in this one

[@meps8965]

I see mistform, I press like

[@HighlanderHipster]

Those FoF piles were... hmm....

[@PhazonOmega]

I would just like to say, after seeing the commander close ups in the video thumbnail--MIZZIX IS A GIRL??? I'm also now thinking about how goblins are apparently hairless mammals, so what are they, really?

[@philippereeves9241]

Goblinoids, of course!

[@LiquidToast42]

Countering that awakening zone was a waste of a counterspell

[@vividplasma227]

I think Sam would have also needed to proliferate his poison counter 7:24 due to the rules change, not that it’d matter. E: 9:10 too

[@MTGMuddstah]

This was filmed before that change.

[@Ecksiu]

Sam, as much as I like the Mizzix-Deck (Building one of my own atm), I gotta say: You forgot to add a poison-counter on you everytime you proliferated. :/

[@mylene6873]

I joined the goblin gang i built krenko and put in blood moon because im a monster

[@jeffnorris211]

Cyc rift and mizzix mastery=budget of the entire deck lol

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

Mizzix's Mastery is less than $5 and the mystery boostery printing is less than $3. I suppose it was at $15 at it's highest. It was also in the Mizzix precon. Rift though, sure? But I would say a budget could easily be $50-100 for a lot of people. I might call budget $50-75. This seems to fit into that with no problem though.

[@rodrigocosta2365]

Budget? Yeah

[@andrewlaverghetta715]

Yeah? Nothing looked overly crazy. You don't play Mizzix without a Cyclonic Rift, really, and it doesn't necessarily need to take the deck all that high.

[@alexleblanc6364]

Another game of Roon not really doing anything 😔😔😔

[@Zerschnitzler77]

heresy, the hapatra deck should have won