Yargle vs Bruse Tarl / Kydele vs Hapatra vs Sliver Queen

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

If you want more info on the playmats we used in this video check out Dragon Shield's Nomad playmat on TCGPlayer here: bit.ly/casually-cedh-nomad . This is the second part of our 'Battle of the Builds' episode, so let us know what you think of this 2 part series. Also, if you've been looking forward to the budget decks, our regularly scheduled seasonal gameplay will continue this upcoming Friday with our first episode of this budgeted pod. Hope to see you there! *NOTE ON MANA ECHOS* Adam misunderstood how Mana Echos worked and didn't think he had enough mana to active the Sliver Queen. In practice, Mana Echos would have counted both slivers and would have generated enough mana to activate Sliver Queen, but due to the misunderstanding Adam just passed turn, thinking he needed to wait to untap to have enough mana. Since it wasn't a rules error and was just a gameplay mistake we will be leaving it as is, but we wanted to leave this note explaining the issue.

[@jacobbecicka2291]

I think these would be the perfect play mat for pre commandfests. I think when you are in the middle of a game and they tell you that you have to move tables this would be perfect for that but now with commandfests and dedicated play spaces they are a little late to the party. Still would be good for when you wont be able to play a full game and can keep your board state clear and organized as you move.

[@francescocentazzo9555]

Nate L definitely the MVP. Feels like the only one who's gotten the theme right. That only swing felt so good

[@dantebeleren]

Definitely. Hapatra/Nate bent the "rules" the worst. I was immediately disappointed with him and Adam on CMDR reveal last episode.

[@CasuallyNateL]

The swing felt too good 😆

[@lukasloetscher1037]

not a big fan of infect normally. but this time i reallz hoped that he gonna win. (I actuallz thing onlz his deck and the bruse Tal deck were on theme. (come on infect from the commander counts) the other two don-t reallz count as commander damage win cons.)

[@inidebiningin]

@@dantebeleren Dude, Adam just said "f*ck it. Slivers. Eat it." At least Hapatra had to actually do damage for things to really happen. That bent "logic" was just pathetic... But that Yargle swing tho

[@dantebeleren]

@@inidebiningin The fact he chose Queen which leads to easy combos was dumb, but Slivers in most situations are/can be an Aggro deck.

[@ofekm1996]

Adam should have won, cascade is a cast trigger so mana echos would have been on the battlefield when the first sliver enters, thereby having infinite creatures on the board, not sure what people have had in their hands but seems like it should have been his game to win Please be advised this comment was made without knowledge of who would end up winning. Replies may contain spoilers

[@Sliver_Boi]

I have failed my queen with my misplays. Big oof lads

[@wryohio4549]

Shouldnt he have also won with intruder alarm, sliver queen and jengantha for infinite slivers?

[@maximilian49627]

@@wryohio4549 Mana produced by Jegantha can't be used to pay generic costs, it can only be used to pay for W, U, B, R and/or G mana symbols respectively.

[@tiagocordeiro2457]

@@wryohio4549 jengantha mana cant be use to pay generic costs

[@jameswilles7814]

And then he should have won later when he cast intruder alarm, right? Use jegantha to add 5, put two of it into his commander making a sliver, triggering intruder alarm, untapping jegantha. He should have as many 1/1s as he wants and has infinite mana...

[@CasuallyNateL]

Happy late Yargle day everyone! One of these days I'll bring home the win with him!

[@jonlamoreaux1889]

Considering you were the only one building on theme against a bunch of combo decks, you had a huge hill to climb.

[@rowrow_]

Turn 2 Yargle is cursed on this channel

[@CasuallyNateL]

IT NEVER WORKS 😭

[@mrbelbobaggins8959]

@@CasuallyNateL I was rooting for you the whole time man.

[@maximilian49627]

11:38 Nate be like:"Yargle, I've come to bargle!"

[@audiolive5931]

The commanders got me excited, the playmats are really hard to look at however.

[@oscarrivasflies9680]

Yargle sais: i'm Yargle... 1 hit, 1 kill... Yargle smash, Yargle broke your bones... Yargle eats your dreams and turns into nightmares

[@WHITEKNIGHT95]

Nate was playing yargle... What a fucking legend. He was the real winner here

[@masterofshadowfire]

This was so much more interesting and was refreshing see how the deck where made, it was also fun to see how they worked afterwards

[@AstridCeleste96]

It was interesting to see the deck construction and piloting, but I prefer the higher power games myself. Seeing Yargle struggle to exist and only live through ploys of his opponents is just a feels bad.

[@hotspicymilky3608]

so disappointing to see Yargle targeted so much. Wanted him to pull through :( Also I'm surprised this video didn't come out a few days ago for Yargle day lol

[@GaucheEtVeule]

Exactly, feels like Bill didn't really want NateL to do anything.

[@P4r4k]

Interesting to see a casual style deck built by cEDH players, you can definitely notice the difference on the choice of cards and, like you mentioned at the end, even the gameplay is still very much competitive style haha

[@r.dommizsed2377]

Joseph: althought no one actually died from commander damage. Me: yeah, they never do.

[@thecollectiblecollectabill2298]

Yargle killed adam. someone did die

[@r.dommizsed2377]

@@thecollectiblecollectabill2298 with infect, with infect

[@jonlamoreaux1889]

It was awesome to see yargle take out Adam who didnt follow the theme and just built an infinite mana sliver queen deck. It was even better to see that it was because of his own misplays. Also you guys should put a leash on Adam when it comes to his freedom to reply to comments on here. Calling your viewers smoothbrained for calling you out for building a boring sliver combo deck is god awfully cringy

[@goodymanc]

I love competitive games with solid restrictions. Build the best deck possible within your restrictions and play the best game possible! Love the content! Please make more!

[@DJVU12]

I was just convinced to build a Yargle deck. I really like this tier of games and would like to see more from you guys!

[@brettsutherland8390]

I loved this episode even more after watching the deck building episode and getting hyped for it!

[@moralessanchezoscarelias6412]

Yargle: Attack you for 11 flying infect damage? Me: *closes Nomad playmat and ragequit *

[@DarkEinherjar]

I think this is the first time I see the decks' power levels drop below 7... :o Not that it's a bad thing, mind you... I really like this new take, it makes the games less predictable.

[@jonlamoreaux1889]

None of these decks were below a 7. They just weren't 9's and 10's

[@bevans224]

As an avid sliver player, Adam should have won as soon as that mana echos hit field, at least he should have created infinite slivers due to the way cascade works mana echos would hit field first, then the first sliver, generating 2 colorless mana, which should have been put into the queen, then infinite slivers, probably would have been game the next turn Edit: I loved the game BTW, I was just a bit salty about that massive misplay lol

[@DarkEinherjar]

I was wondering what those playmats were about, and now I want two or three of them!

[@muchmoonies]

I like the mix of jankyness and high power from this channel

[@piralos1329]

17:17 123 on the right hand side? Also, it's a shame to have not seen Feather! Being able to draw a bunch of cards and pump her in the process seems like it could have been interesting to see, on a higher power level. Also, no Sigarda, the angel queen of Voltron?

[@king_eternal]

I've been waiting to see the decks play!!

[@xxdrakezz]

would really like to see another game where they win only with commander damage or infect. that would be fun!

[@ravenger777]

Nice game, I enjoyed the change of pace and it’s refreshing to see a non oracle race.

[@HeirophantCarneus]

Kind of weird threat assessment. Seemed like the weakest deck got disproportionately targeted...

[@bobby45825]

Eh, it diddddddd spike out one player with infect pretty quickly.

[@DarkEinherjar]

I've seen that before. People are very afraid of an unblockable Yargle, probably because of how easily it can go from manageable to lethal (a single Tainted Strike allows Yargle to swing for exactly 10 infect damage, for example).

[@HeirophantCarneus]

True enough. Still seems weird to me to hate out the deck capable of killing with commander damage...in a pod specifically about KO by commander damage. I also just have a thing against hating out any deck/strategy before it shows it's thing. Like if a deck is threatening a win, by all means, target it's pieces. But preemptively targeting a deck that's durdling just because it has dangerous win cons is shitty to me - not saying that's definitely what happened here.

[@TH3L3M0N]

It's just a mindset of not leaving damage on the table. Also being the only open player onto combat damage triggers is bad news

[@jetshark8308]

@@TH3L3M0N I think it was more about the many removal spells cast against him

[@georgethekingiv]

Great game play. Was surprised on the choices of commander. I was certain somebody would have picked Zur.

[@josephs.4813]

Those playmats are not the move imo

[@RoastedPheasant]

They'd be great if they could hold decks.

[@kunu9051]

Adam cast mana echoes before the First Sliver hit the field. That should trigger Mana echoes and would’ve given him infinite colorless mana and slivers

[@lurro9963]

Nah since mana echoes only gives him 1 mana cause it counts how many other creatures there are who share a type with the entered one.. So he could not activate the queen

[@kunu9051]

lurro99 Thanks for that clarification I should probably read the cards I don’t normally play 😂

[@ujai5271]

@@kunu9051 is correct. Gatherer ruling: "You do get to count the creature itself, you even get one mana if it is the only creature you have on the battlefield (assuming it has at least one creature type)." So First Sliver enters, Adam gets 2 mana for Queen and First Sliver, goes infinite.

[@lurro9963]

@@ujai5271 kk my bad then this would probably be a win

[@ujai5271]

@@lurro9963 No worries, it is a weird card. I only know it because I run it in my Goblins list.

[@MTGSavage]

Yes! Been looking forward to this

[@fabtuba215]

Nice channel and games! One thing, Classical playmats are better for me greetings from Italy

[@andrevpedro]

I don't really get why Bill focused Nate L so much.

[@CasuallyNateL]

It felt bad to be on the receiving end of the beat train, but it makes sense because of the draw effects from dealing combat damage. In hindsight it was poor threat assessment considering I had the means to kill both Adam and Nate in two turns at any time, but that also means I had the means to kill Bill as well.

[@blazerboy55]

At 09:35 wouldn't the Mana echoes resolve before TFS and TFS resolving and ETBing would add two colorless?

[@ferdinandahern4765]

Low key want to see some more yargle

[@patrickbaillargeon7568]

Team yargle may not have gotten the W but it did get a kill

[@8GREENchocolate]

Hey, I have a suggestion for a building restriction. Play only cards that are common or uncommon. My playgroup made decks around this, affectionately called silverback, and they can still be quite competitive. Many tutors, rhystic study, mystic remora are all available cards. Would be fun to see.

[@darkrai2x]

I really enjoyed this more casual gameplay

[@Starcraftgamer97]

One of these times I'll see Trynn and Sylvar. And one of these times, Froggyboi, will win.

[@CasuallyNateL]

❤️

[@HugSeal42]

A Voltron game without someone playing Bruna? I am dissapoint! Great game to watch anyways though, but an angel with eldrazi conscription is hard to beat ;) Playing carnival of souls versus a sliver queen with intruder alarm on the battlefield seems a tad risky though :)

[@waltercardcollector]

Hey at 9:01 did Adam take the 3 damage from Tarnished Citadel?

[@FollowAlongNow]

I appreciate a good chunk of peeps looked at Slivers and Hapatra as cop-outs cause... well, Slivers kind of was (dont @ me) and -1/-1 combo in disguise was the expectation. Hapatra slapped face, I am pleasantly surprised. Basically every turn was a combat step with her doing boot + face math.

[@unwucht1529]

Hm... tough call for Nate L whom to take out of the game. I would have opted for Nate though, instead. He just had a scary combo on board. Nice game, hope to see more content from you guys!

[@coreysierchio4650]

He is Life. He is Love. He is Yargle!

[@krisdaschwab912]

My choice is Ramos spellslinger. You'll find the list particularly...charming.

[@alexmaragh7766]

its a Yargle day miracle!

[@sergiocarrillo53]

Adam is just playing slivers

[@davidparsons9914]

So these Nomad Playmats are for playing on the go, or on a windy day?

[@thenolifenerd7850]

Kind of funny how he describes this as not quite casual and not quite competitive, however it’s a channel literally named Casually Competitive😂

[@ZenaphobeZerj]

Casually competitive? More like competitively casual 😎

[@justintdesrochers]

Liked this lower power video. Don't love the deck building video though

[@barryswigart1432]

Those playmats are ugly AF

[@xChikyx]

True, but I see how useful they are if you're in your LGS, they have to close, you haven't finished the match, and you're going to continue the game in a restaurant... ahhaha unfortunately they are WAY too expensive, and I'm sure they don't fit in my backpack xD

[@zvnholy3396]

I would be really suprised if the Prof wouldnt test it.

[@临高]

Is pretty cool design, but appearance wise, yeah they are pretty ugly

[@zmk55]

They are a bit of an eye sore to watch on camera. Probably works fine in person but i felt like it was hard to see all of the cards.

[@isaacgurney1927]

funky game! looks fun though

[@AidanWR]

Well, that says, "opponants"

[@thedeadfool1]

If this ever happens again, Saskia, skullbriar, Etrata, and (edit) Akiri + Silas-Ren

[@NotSceptile]

"Lower-powered decks" *First opening hand shown contains 3 fetch lands and a shock land* 😂 I love this channel and the games you guys play, but my play group must be on such a lower level.

[@isaacsmith3998]

TBH, shocks and fetches don't actually increase power level all that much. Yeah, they're the best lands, and they'll make just about any deck *slightly* better and more consistent. But they're not going to be winning games or anything.

[@gavcanflip]

It's so odd seeing other people's playgroups where commander damage is never even considered as a threat. A large amount of decks I see from people I play with aim to win with commander damage, it's almost always a threat in a game

[@cassiemay2397]

When the finale was mana drained would it not give 2 mana in the next upkeep because the cmc is still 2 cause the x counts as 0, I'm not a judge just asking if I understand corre. Either way it was a great game and I like the idea of themed building games

[@ArborusVitae]

Mana Drain checks CMC on the stack and thus counts X when determining the CMC. So finale with X = 4 is CMC 6.

[@DarkEinherjar]

When a card has X in its mana cost, X is 0 in every zone, EXCEPT the stack. On the stack, X is the amount you set for it, and will count for anything that cares about that spell's CMC, including Mana Drain.

[@baileychinnan5656]

what is the thing they are playing on called?

[@reccaman]

Hard to stop Johnny players from thinking about loop holes lol

[@thecollectiblecollectabill2298]

at the end you say no one died from commander damage. im pretty sure Yargle infected someone to death

[@calebhalbrook788]

It may just be me but I felt like hapatra combo wasn't really in the sport of the restriction

[@jameswilles7814]

I see a couple people mentioned that Adam should have won on his mana echoes turn, but shouldn’t he also have had infinite mana and 1/1s after resolving intruder alarm? He might have still died to yargle, but I’m just wondering why not go for this line? Were you worried about earthcraft?

[@ujai5271]

Jegantha cannot pay for Sliver Queen.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Jegantha's mana can't be used to pay generic mana costs like Sliver Queen's activation.

[@jameswilles7814]

@@DarkEinherjar oh, you're right. I always forget about that line of text, lol

[@the1bmc1]

The overlay over the manabase is kind of weird. Nice video non the less

[@jonnyupchurch7283]

What about an episode where you build decks that are based on jank but try your best to power them up to a decent level Something like the chair tribal, dudes wearing hats etc...

[@Bcdeano]

Jeez. Nate L targeted all game :(

[@suntitan4419]

Right they must hate poor Nate

[@CasuallyNateL]

It makes sense, but boy does it feel bad.😭

[@bobby45825]

@@CasuallyNateL All the "Darkness" effects in the future.

[@ujai5271]

This is the official "'Opponants' in the Bruse / Kydele deck introduction" comment. Please don't post more comments pointing this out; instead upvote and reply to this one. Thank you.

[@darbymckilkannoncaid3279]

I also noticed that haha

[@craigfernandez4433]

I’m all for you guys making these themed videos... but this was not voltron. This was you guys expanding too far on what “commander damage” means. I would appreciate it if you stuck more on theme

[@jormungardwe]

so nobody choose any neheb?

[@Bammab127]

I like this game more than Oracle/ Consultation wins

[@scottcisek2376]

Hmm thanks now to snag an attrition for my hapatra pretty gross

[@jadencawley6942]

Cascade go brrrrrr

[@travisbrandt8663]

Hapatra

[@TashaRhyming]

YARGLE

[@CasuallyNateL]

😱

[@mtg_player1783]

Haha game go bonk

[@Haroldsackmtg]

If I wanted to watch bum fights I could just search Kimbo Slice

[@xChikyx]

for next challenge: No combos allowed 😈

[@bobby45825]

They'd die. That's all they do.

[@CasuallyNateL]

@@bobby45825 But... but... Yargle

[@xChikyx]

@@CasuallyNateL Yargle smashes hahaha Great kill in this game btw

[@elbe0072]

Adam got so scammed .

[@illbetthisnameisnttaken6598]

I'm sure you all got the playmats as part of a sponsorship, but man they are rough to look at. Not a fan unfortunately :-/

[@andr3xc366]

I want see korvold and kykar again :(

[@zer0shift72]

please never do this again, those playmats are fucking atrocious.

[@gokumasteredultrainstinct1]

Do a non-partner partners restriction. Any two legendary creatures, they don't have to share color identity. Their total identify is the deck's. It's about as within the rules as this "commander" dmg restriction. Lol

[@moreparmesan5261]

Losing to 10 infect technically doesn't count as commander damage.

[@bryanbonar]

I don't know what is going on with this play area but I don't like it. Please consider playing on some aesthetically pleasing mats instead.

[@justryangeorge]

(A) never use those ridiculously overpriced dumb mats again. (B) remind the players to think about the overlay and stop hiding half their board below where the overlays would be.

[@ianjuby8492]

those mats are ugly, sorry

[@yashaskedlaya7326]

...third?

[@the1bmc1]

The overlay over the manabase is kind of weird. Nice video non the less