ROOTHY'S MAHINDRA MODIFICATIONS - CATCH CAN, EXHAUST, SUSPENSION, WATER TANKS, TRAY BOXES and more

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This clip is about ROOTHY'S MAHINDRA MODIFICATIONS - EXHAUST, SUSPENSION, WATER TANKS, TRAY BOXES and more - and outlines some of the development work that went into building up this Mahindra Pik Up for sustained outback use. So looking for a new dual cab four cylinder I borrowed and drove everything in this market available here in Australia, liked the Mah so much I kept it for a year - then missed it so much I had to get my own. It was a leap of faith maybe, buying something not many Australians knew much about - but I also knew that in India Mahindra is considered their Toyota, only better - they’re everywhere. Time to take the plunge - and maybe put my money where my mouth is.
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[@trevorspary134]

Thanks Roothy. Like you I think the Mahindra will be exremely popular once the wave comes in. Remember when Landcruisers first came to Australia, everyone said nah, wont sell here. Well , I think this is history in the making again, and its going to happen .

[@tyzon00800]

Cruisers are a bit different to a binhindra , bottom feeders will be the main person to get caught

[@mottthehoople693]

@@tyzon00800 spoken by someone without a clue

[@Bigsoot7393]

Dunno a mine I worked with bought a heap and they didn't last when all the other Jap, Thai utes seem to without dramas

[@mottthehoople693]

@@Bigsoot7393 mine wear things out simply because machines are abused by imbeciles..I know miners who would break an anvil if you let them anywhere near it...Cruisers have problems like anything else..so do mindys..

[@emu4wd]

That exhaust looks sweet. Quality always pays off. I can’t understand why you’ve not got 1m subs. So genuine. Steve 🇦🇺

[@Jagermonsta]

we need to separate the terms 'catch can' and 'crankcase filter' - catch cans catch oil when your engine pukes, and do no filtering. crankcase filters, as pictured at 0:25 DO however filter the vapors coming from the crankcase vent before going to the intake of the vehicle. too many poor kids getting fancy looking crap catch cans off ebay, which do nothing anyways, great vid and interesting to see the development come along

[@bravohotel]

Absolutely. I've also heard the crankcase filter referred to as an "oil separator". A device with fine mesh which catches the oil as it leaves the crankcase, whereby said oil is than gravity fed to sump. Not sure why Roothy is installing a catch can. Take care of the car and it's really not necessary in my view.

[@aussiesmoko]

Seen you at Gilgandra a few months ago at the shell. You were filling the triumph up with fuel you were going back to Brisbane from collie Thank you for your 5 minutes of your precious time much appreciated thankyou

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

No worries Andrew - see you on the road again sometime no doubt!

[@mickymouse3491]

Looks like a great exhaust, it’s amazing how it also sounds like a didgeridoo. Very patriotic lol 👍👍. You would be a great bloke to have a beer with Roothy. Thanks for your brilliant video’s.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

I don't think you'd get better actually - took a while, but we had to get it right with so many people watching.

[@fishlessfishermenfishingan4613]

Its great someones out there actually testing these cars. I was in the market for another car. I decieded on the fj cruiser. My misso has had one for 4 years and never had an issue. And i got to put it through its paces a few times. But she was getting grumpy and me for being rough lol. So i got my own to give the 47 a rest and some love

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Yep, pity they don't make the Crsuier anymore - good looking rig.

[@fishlessfishermenfishingan4613]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY yeah man not wrong. Shame they never made a hj model or bj. Took me awhile for the shape to grow on me lol. But man those things go anywhere.

[@JJ.791]

is there any lift kit for the Mahindra?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Ryebuck do a kit - check 4wd industries (Rutherford) web site and talk to them.

[@jackturtle131]

Going to be an awesome truck when you fitted everything you want on it Rooty. Love it mate

[@quartzghost9380]

She's a nice rig Roothy! you have her looking great.. Love ya work mate 💯

[@jimtekkit]

I haven't seen many builds with the Cummins R2.8, it's a great donk for engine swaps. Strange that it's still kind of rare to see them.

[@TheOldaz1]

Looking good John, watching with interest. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work.

[@kevinsummersford4112]

The mahindra is coming along nicely roothy and the noise sounds cool too

[@chiphood2966]

It's a relief watching your videos after looking at all those 100k plus shit boxes at the 4x4 show the other weekend

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Yep, I know how you feel! A;lways felt swamped at shows with $500 worth of Milo surrounded by mega buck trucks.....

[@chiphood2966]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY it's just a shame to see people being told they can't go bush without dropping a ridiculous amount money. I had to leave after i was told i wouldn't make it to all those little fishing and camping spots i know without spending a minimum of 18k on my vehicle. Makes me wonder how I've been getting to these places for the last 17 years 🤣

[@dtnicholls1]

Good to see you're enjoying the new ute mate. Still not sold on them being a good buy due to parts availability etc, but I'm glad it's working out for you.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

I don't get that - maybe you can't buy parts at your local shop but wow, we have the web these days! And there's heaps of them worldwide.

[@BrucePinkerton]

Did you fit a UHF radio? And if so, where did you fit it and what sort?

[@conservativesniperhunter7439]

They are great modifications for the Mahindra Roothy 👍😀.

[@markdalbeth9274]

Great update vid Roothy. I hope you have something up your sleeve regarding wheel options.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

So far the steels I've tried on my bike wheel bvalancer have been out of round - except this standard Mahindra made lot. However I'm still looking for something worth fitting up that's wider !!

[@Draracle]

Nice looking setup. Have you considered installing a trundle drawer/table at the rear or does the water tank use up that space? I bought the single cab with pastoral pack, EFS suspension and steel tray. Like you I went with the Gough plastics boxes, two behind the rear axle and two for water in front. I installed a UHF antenna between the cab and headboard on a fold down bracket as well as breathers, brake controller and winch. It has been running great and has handled all of the off-road tracks I've taken it on with ease.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Eventually we're aiming at a full canopy with touring kit - but it's a slow evolution, and the tray came in real handy during our downsize! A removeable set up would be wonderful...

[@lukeday2375]

Hey Roothy, on the snorkel front ring John at rum city exhaust up here in Bundy. We made one for a guy and the work has gotten out. We have people from every corner of the country sending their cars in for one and now some big names 4wd suppliers are putting in orders. Photos can be provided for the design to see what you think. Cheers for the updates👍 and the autograph on the glove box of my 40😎

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Yep I've seen what he's done and he's good. This is as good as it gets tho - especially for a commercial fitting that can be supplied in a box. Hope the 40's going hard!!!

[@aarondwyer3746]

What a bugger of a exhaust system thank God you put it right

[@jase6827]

Nice one Roothy. Been looking at the Mahindra for a new fishing truck for Fraser , Moreton and Straddie.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

I'd do it with anything but use heaps of Steel Seal from new OK? Otherwise it'll be short lived, anythjing would be. Saw a Troopy that got used for the Fraser Fishing classic and never got washed - two years later you could walk thru the sills...

[@taringaturi6950]

You're a bloody Legend, Roothy Thanks Mate👍🏾

[@cherrykollipara5932]

I think the South African bull bar model looks much better compared to ours here. What do others think?

[@aarondwyer3746]

What have you been up to Sunshine

[@68404]

Roothy, is it going on the dyno and tuned? The baseline figures are not brilliant..

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Numbers don't tell the full story - they make lovely gradual torque all thru - mine makes more already (ECU is a Bosch, so very playable by the right experts) but I'll save that until I'm totally finished the testing.

[@arronjohnston742]

you do know Roothy has never been the horsepower hero type right? peak power is racecar and dyno queen stuff

[@annettehewitson6426]

Can you do a video of how you route your pipe for fuel thank you.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Yes I will soon as possible - thanks

[@papaloo2000]

Please consider adding a heat shield between brake and exhaust pipe.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Good point but at this stage my testing - ok, bunging a hand in toe touch the brake line - suggests it's not an issue. But time will tell as always!

[@alexgrubb7446]

Cant wait to see the finished results. Are these mods (snorkel/exhaust) gonna eventually be off the shelf parts do you know?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Yes, we're working on that - too much development work not too! Contact 4WD Industries [phone]

[@Jase-so2tm]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY you gonna go canvas canopy roothy??

[@bucklrya]

What are those wheels Roothy?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Mine runs standrad Mah steelies, got them from Mahindra Australia who pluck them to put on mags...

[@tishofikini2776]

What is your advice for storage of jerk,wheel spanner accessories,road stop warning accessories...... because there seems to be no space for them. This made me think twice about buying it.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Yep, mine's stuffed under the back seat for now but will go in the canopy when I get around to that bit...

[@tishofikini2776]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY thanks 👍

[@Caith2010]

G'day roothy, any chance of a short video on the location and fitting of the catch can. Mahindra is looking good mate! Top trucks.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Yeah I would have but it's tucked up where it can't be seen easily - wuill do something on it, my fault for not doing while fitting!

[@terrybailey4039]

Did you change the torsion bars Roothy when you replaced the shocks and leaf springs? Any advantage or disadvantages in doing so? Keep up the good. Catching up on the videos whilst I'm laid up in hospital with a collar bone infection.

[@grantthethirst415]

Will we be putting air bags on our Mahindras John? Did you consider the Mahindra Factory suspension up grade? It would be nice to have some indication of cost on these mods. The price to the punter that is. 🤔. Thanks for sharing.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

I've got the Mahindra aftermarket suspension on now, basically EFS with the front rods turned up 40mm. It works a treat, once worn in a bit, but I think there's more potential here too - watch this space!

[@rossholmes178]

Hey there...looking at Mahindra as a replacement for a BT50 fatally injured by fuel contamination. Most diesel specialists in this area (ACT region) have passed on horror stories regarding parts availability and the only (I think) local dealer has bailed out re parts supply and ongoing servicing. Do you have any thoughts or info on this?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

They are new - to Australia, and the world outside India - and finally we have a genuine Mahindra owned/operated distributorship so I think you'll find things aren't quite like that. However it might take time for that to penetrate your area. Meanwhile with the sheer numbers of them worldwide and the web parts aren't an issue - Bosch ecu, Toyota (Aisin) gearbox, etc etc - worldwide componentry.

[@crazyharry1586]

Thanks for the update Roothy :) Would you be able to give us the prices of the items you have installed please? Does the new snorkel flow better than the Mahindra one and are you using an aftermarket air filter with it or still the standard filter? Cheers

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

All in good time - about a fortnight ok? Snorkel not finished yet but already it flows heaps better owing to redirection to standard air intake. Same Filter tho.

[@crazyharry1586]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY Thank you cause if I'm going to spend $40k+ on one it will make it easier if I know how much extra I need to bring it up to Roothy standard :)

[@jamiegroves1761]

Thanks Roothy 😎🍺👍

[@404errorpagenotfound.6]

My new Mahindra should be here at end of month / early November. Been a long wait, told dealer I don't care about colour or configuration any more just get me a dual cab. Will be looking at developments in aftermarket extras.

[@timmycarey1958]

When you get it right, can you talk to the dealers so I can just walk in & buy a new Pik-up "Roothy Pack"?

[@perpelle]

Why doesn't all 4*4s with leafs put the spring over the axle for better clearance?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

The forces are different - extra strain on spring plates under acceleration especially- ok for Trailers and short haul competition but not for general use. Great question though.

[@perpelle]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY What does that mean regarding my hilux that has the leafs over? 😳 Is it something to lie sleepless about?

[@darcykeddell4930]

@@perpelle no its not something to lose sleep over, more capable

[@johnswallow3710]

I'm really looking at buying one of these rigs

[@stevegoodwin5841]

Going well. I myself would ditch RTT for swag and Stretcher stored in tray.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

I did that for quite a few decades - but the Bushcompany clam shell is too easy and too comfortable and suits this time of life when a bloke might like a snooze after a pub lunch...

[@vintagetintrader1062]

I hope,they develop a exhaust for the Scorpio, picking up one shortly.

[@4WheelingInNSW]

Nice one Roothy 👍 thanks for sharing bud. 🇦🇺👍

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Thanks 👍

[@danthewookiechewy9555]

Hey roothy the car looks incredibly low on camera is it the same up close? will it drag itself over every rock you drive over or is that just camera trickery?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Camera mostly I'd say - it's got a diff lock so I guess dragging is an alternative!!!

[@omfgishBenneh]

Hey Roothy, have you seen Anthony from Fourby4Diesels explanation as to why you don't need a catch can? I highly recommend it.

[@omfgishBenneh]

Good to see you getting some mods done on her! Makes it feel like a new vehicle 😎🤙 Next up wheels? Speak to the guys at Dynamic Wheels, they can do you custom stud pattern, offset and they have pretty well every sized barrel imaginable.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Thanks - checked it out, lots of it makes sense but for short hauls - hard to beat a cach can!

[@superwag634]

indicative pricing of these modifications would be worthwhile adding to these videos.

[@aarondwyer3746]

Something I like john,the pure

[@jasonhowe1697]

I'm surprised you didn't DO truck style exhaust roothy to river water out of the exhaust

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Not needed - YET!!!!

[@jasonhowe1697]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY with the amount of bush bashing you do and water crossings I would of thought you'd be doing that exhaust sooner rather than later so what iis the diesel spec, is it similar to the old toyota spec of a 2.4 liter diesel like the hilux???

[@Splagnate]

Have you ever watched “Rescuers Down Under” with your kids? If so whatcha think of it?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

No. I’ll have a look. Thanks mate

[@bluntobject4084]

Enjoying the walk along with you this journey. Very interesting seeing it from your point of view. Will you be showing/taking video crew with you when you go out in it ?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Sometimes, and sometimes it'll be home made stuff - fact is that takes money, which means sponsors, which can mean BS.... sometimes!

[@bluntobject4084]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY yep makes sense. Thanks for the honest response

[@jeanbrinon5451]

Kiaora, have had a '15 Pikup, purchased at100thousand KS about.Near seaside nz, rust perforation in 2018,rust coming through super thin paint, windshied frame perf.Happy to get price of alloy tray ? You get What You pay for...

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Rust - yep, all about how it's treated and where - a few beach drives early in a vehicle's life can really stuff them up later. I Steel Sealed mine almost from new, but would have with anything - time will tell!

[@vikramrao2797]

These guys should consider opening up an outpost in India, they're infinitely better at it than any Indian outfit. They will be booked solid for years, people there are hungry for this stuff, plus they would be educating the buyers there on quality products.

[@murrayedgar4791]

Hey mate. You still riding? If so, what you on? Read so much of your stuff in 2 wheels in the 70's and 80's.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

OFCOURSE!!! Got a shed full of bikes, all old - newest is a 95 BMW LT, and a Harley Road King - can't do fuel injection tho.... on ya mate.

[@murrayedgar4791]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY Glad to hear. Still got the ancient beemer? (Hilda???) I can only justify one at a time to my wife and have gone to the dark side with a new gen Bonneville T120. Still, reminds me of why I started riding, and have not been without a bike (apart from a very sad 18months while studying) in the last 48 years. Hope to ride until I die. My therapy and meditation.

[@Splagnate]

Roothy! As an expert, which I know you are! I’m trying to grow a beard and it’s driving me crazy! So itchy! Any advice?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Haha! I don’t know. I shaved twice in Sixty years. Shaving makes Me itchy. Try rum?

[@Splagnate]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY Will do! Wait do I drink the rum or rub it on my face? Or both? Thanks for your content! Genuine and fun to watch!

[@robbiecryer]

Just let it grow, the itch will go lol

[@chiphood2966]

The itch is the hair growing back into your skin. Once it grows out it'll been fine

[@andrewgraham7659]

G'Day Roothy.... I'm still interested in the Pik up as a vehicle. My family think because it's Indian, it's to be avoided. But I do value your opinion and insight into these vehicles. There's nothing like them. Now they come with a auto I am really excited about getting one. I've been a watching a few "we don't bash the Mahindra but here's are it's faults" meaning what they have to say is negative. I think they barking mad themselves and I would like to own in the next few years. I wonder if I'm better off waiting for the 2025 ute.

[@redbitter1232]

Love the mahindra. One problem roothy mate. Spare parts are very scarce. Brake pads and filters I hope they would have aftermarket bit’s for these things Don’t get me wrong I love them.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

I'm not so sure on the parts thing yet - I haven't had any issues and the web is loaded with parts.

[@craigtomkinson2837]

Nice work

[@jameswebb3000]

Awesome just awesome

[@MrMandala1111]

The mahindra looks promising but that efs suspension, nah I'll give that a miss after past experiences with their shocks not lasting very well at all.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Yep, their shocks aren't great if pounded off-road but none of the stock modern stuff is. I've replaced mine and had no dramas since.

[@aarondwyer3746]

Respect john it's about glens

[@AP-ow5vu]

You don't need a catch can you need to blank the EGR off. The soot is the problem, when you remove the oil from the soot you're turning it into dry abrasive crap that is even worse because it does more than just block your intake up.

[@RoyFJ65]

First item I installed on my 2016 FJ Cruiser was a catch can.

[@LVNITUPM8]

All good and well until the car manufacturer claims that its caused the issue and voids warranty. Nissan navaras for example the rear main seal blowing out, Nissan claim the relief on the catch cans has not allowed it to vent and has caused back pressure

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

That's sounds like dodgy Nissan stuff to me - I'll investigate, thanks for that mate!

[@mervonmcnab6135]

It would be nice if you could get a long range fuel tank for the Mahindra

[@aarondwyer3746]

Very nice rig

[@ramonwill3543]

Oh I do like your program, but it you new ute designed for Australia conditions? I drive a Mercedes X class ute and just love it. It has the widest and longest carriage range, plenty of horse power. And it is a MB which is the most comfortable ride in style hehe cheers

[@perpelle]

Sorry to burst your bubble but it's a Nissan navara. There's a reason why Mercedes stopped selling them.

[@ramonwill3543]

You can still buy a MB ute only with a V6 engine

[@perpelle]

@@ramonwill3543 Propably leftovers. They stopped production in 2020.

[@ramonwill3543]

It is a Citroen engine if you do your homework

[@perpelle]

@@ramonwill3543 I did my homework. I never mentioned where the engine comes from. It's a joint venture within renault/mitsubishi/nissan. At the end of the day, it's not a Mercedes. That's why no one bought them. Premium price tag for a "non premium" pickup.

[@yusufsayed2119]

Great content 👌 Greetings from south africa 🇿🇦 Check out the karoo dusk fx4 for the SA Market

[@garypriddin9949]

Sounds fully sic.

[@bjpayne1615]

I'll take one of those exhausts

[@Travelling_Jonoberries]

Roothy everyone bangs on about a Catch can? Is this a deficiency in this vehicle?

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Lot's of opinions - I have mine, and voiced it - but then I remember when fumes went straight to the road, so I'd rather play it safe and catch it rather than burning it!

[@operation4wheelz]

With the utmost respect. There’s no way catch cans are a mandatory addition. A well engineered and functional engine, operated as the engineer intended should be fine. Some people certainly have issues, but I don’t personally know a single person who would have benefited by one. Same with additional water separating filters if the OME has a separator.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

We'll just have to disagree there - the engineers design engines to pass emissions standards - there is and never has been a reason to feed oil fumes back through a motor. And that is not good. I've seen it in my own 76 where the intake was halved after 70K - when I bought i -and in several other vehicles, usually with 100K or more. Agree on the extra fuel filter with reservations - that being if it's easier to see and drain then it's a benefit. And the TT filter is a much finer one - I like that. At the end of the day I agree with ouy that most problems are maintenance related - and some dealerships are the worst for that.

[@operation4wheelz]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY yeah like I said. I’m certainly not saying hard and fast that catch cans are no good. In some circumstances they may be 💯 necessary. I just don’t think that they are a must for everyone. Those vapours (in theory) should be completely goneskis if working at optimum temps for sufficient times. I’ve had three diesel 4wds… they run at optimum temps 99% of their running life .. no issues with the inlet at all. All my work vehicles are the same, they run all day, rarely doing cold starts and no issues. But different engines are gonna operate differently. I’m just saying that they are not a mandatory addition. I’d personally wait until i saw direct evidence that i needed it, before spending the money. And I’ve heard some engineers say, that PCVs and EGRs are actually relied upon to operate as the intended. I know what they do and why they exist…straight up… my engine runs perfectly with out it.

[@gtbtp2036]

Not much point having a catch can if the egr hasn’t been blocked off

[@operation4wheelz]

@@gtbtp2036 … not sure how you come to that theory.

[@gtbtp2036]

@@operation4wheelz strange

[@samftr]

Thats exhaust is sexy as! Love the welds and mandrel bends

[@gasnxt6805]

Sounds like the Doves that live in my garden.

[@FordJ1]

You're getting curryed away with it! 🤙

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

hahahahaha!!!

[@markjames3393]

09:55 Bloody fruit bats 😂

[@aarondwyer3746]

I'll come out to play john

[@Bruser71]

roothy would endorse a greatwall ute for a dollar

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

They're a good thing actually - but I'd never 'endorse' one, and would never buy one either. That's just personal - Mahindra is India and they've always been on our side.

[@hankcuccina5260]

Another $10,000 or $20,000 and that Mahindra will be sweet

[@aarondwyer3746]

I know where to turn up

[@tonybennett638]

But big note John Cadogan reckons catch cans are bull-shit..

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Yes I know. I know and respect John having worked with him but never seen him in a workshop on the tools - and I'd point out as he does, in reverse, that his site is funded by sales of NEW vehicles.

[@tonybennett638]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY lil

[@Vacublaster1]

I don't think the Mahindra will sell that well.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

We'll see won't we? Maybe people will get over their prejudice and give it a go -

[@arronjohnston742]

with grossly over priced toyotas there's starting to be more an more curry cruisers and even chinese 4wd's on the road, plus sponsored or not is the curry cruiser was garbage i seriously doubt Roothy would still have it, he's just never seemed to be the type, plus if the mines are starting to use them then they can't be sh*t

[@Vacublaster1]

@@JOHNROOTHROOTHY Well anyone who buys a new 4WD usually is very keen to get it off-road, you've had yours a while and I haven't seen many trips with it? I'm beginning to suspect that it isn't as capable as you make out? Of course, I don't own one and likely never will, I like older 4WD's so, we're all waiting to see, I guess. The problem I see is that most 4WD manufacturers (USA Excepted) make the trucks for the Aussie environment, Mahindra have just imported an Indian designed truck for the ute market and I reckon that's its issue right there.

[@Vacublaster1]

@@arronjohnston742 Yes, but the mines have a different requirement to the average 4WD owner, they are probably looking at costs more than capability.

[@arronjohnston742]

@@Vacublaster1 what it means is if the mines are using them then they must be a reliable an solid rig, time is money for the mines and they wont put up with shitboxes breaking down all the time and can't haul a load . the average 4wder wants reliability and not be charged a million dollars for an old farm truck like 76-78 series cruisers that doesn't even come with cup holders an shit seats

[@arronjohnston742]

wait, the mines are now using curry cruisers?!?! hmm if that's true that's huge news!

[@SpencerHHO]

Look up John Cadogan, he's burnt more bridges than any other car journalist in the country. He's also an automotive engineer and makes a very cogent argument against catch cans. He would also turn around that accusation and say the endorsement of catch cans comes mostly from ignorance OR people sponsored by the makers of superfluous and gratuitous ad ons for cars. I have a shitbox 2010 zd30 patrol that's never had a catch can, it has over 350 000 Ks on it now and hasn't grenaded. Plenty of people with catch cans have had their motors blow. There is very little evidence that they make a positive difference in modern well designed engines. They might void your warranty however or if you get a shit catch can blow out your oil seals.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

I know Cadoges, have done for thirty years - and if you look you'll see his site is paid for indirectly thru new car sales - he's a good operator, but you need to go talk to mechanics to find the problems caused by feeding goop back thru the inlet.

[@SpencerHHO]

@JOHN ROOTH thank you for the reply. I appreciate where you're coming from but my understanding is that it really depends on the vehicle in question and how it's used and what else you've done to it. Certainly a bad catch can is much worse than no catch can as my best friend who runs his own mechanic shop has had a few cars blow their PCR valve from a bad catch can. Most engines have an oil vapour separator on them that works essentially as a catch can that returns the oil to the crank and I've had just asany mechanics advise against catch cans on new engines as those in favour. My old shitbox ZD30 patrol has other mods but no catch can and gunk build up over 300 000Ks has been pretty minimal when I gave it a big clean out and I've seen plenty of blown ZDs with knackered PCR valves with catch cans so I remain unconvinced. It's something I probably would do to an older diesel but I think I'd rather just pay for a deep clean of the intake manifold amd valves every couple of years on a more modern engine. EGR systems have gotten a lot better with newer CRD engines too with less soot clogging shit up which probably mitigates a lot of the problem too.

[@andrewcoulter323]

eww torsion bars like an older Paj....

[@darrylmackie9184]

EFS ! IN MY EXPERIENCES WITH SPRINGS and SHOCK ABSORBERS, THEY WERE SHIT PRODUCTS.

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

I've used them before with mixed results but this time they're definitely doing a better job -especially the shocks.

[@aarondwyer3746]

John I'll pay you a motsa,how beautiful you are,I thought all was lost

[@janicekerrigan5863]

Catch cans void your warranty.

[@johnbiggins4864]

Needs a little more grunt....take that crap off the roof

[@TheSarvaks]

Lol terrain tamer are a joke

[@fromjarrod]

Lol only decent thing to come out of India is curry

[@brentmcd12]

full offroad touring rig now !! 🏞️🛻📹🤙😎

[@JOHNROOTHROOTHY]

Lonmg way to go there mate - but happening slowly!