rory & jess (68)

[@jayaybee3047]

Dave Rygalski being the only unproblematic guy in Gilmore Girls:

[@actuallyimapanda]

Logan wasn't that problematic

[@zumann874]

@@actuallyimapanda yeah. cheats on rory with multiple women. blames the women he slept with, calls them "worthless idiots" and slutshames them, cheats with rory as an adult like pls

[@LouiseAndersen1991]

@@zumann874 it's not cheating if they are broken up, wich they were

[@zumann874]

@@LouiseAndersen1991 broken up???? did rory think they were broken up?? logan is a very problematic guy too but yall are blind to that cuz he covers it up with that prince charming behaviour of his, what he constantly does is gaslight, manipulate and lovebomb rory. but it doesnt seem that way to yall cuz hes rich

[@lauriecarson6483]

​@@actuallyimapanda lmfao yeah he was. If I had a boyfriend who was 25 and cried every time his daddy tells him he needs to start growing up I would drop him so fast. Plus I don't go for a guy who puts his needs and wants in front of his girlfriend.

[@wb560]

2:41 the contrast between Rory and Lane's boyfriends is very funny

[@jasminebegin13]

Ikr, that scene was so funny

[@WarmLittleDiamond90]

Lane's seem less stressful.

[@AA-qb7ni]

The way he fell I'm dead 😭😂😂😂

[@sreejitakarmakar8488]

And to think Lane's future boyfriend and husband was present too 2:50 haha Zack.

[@gieniusialompke]

@@sreejitakarmakar8488 gee thanks for the spoiler

[@carcrash9768]

2:35-2:48 Lane’s boyfriends compared to Rory’s boyfriends...

[@kiwi_lover9505]

"Get off me". "I'm trying"

[@marialawson2328]

hahahahaha i never noticed it like that before lmao

[@atticpigeon3937]

Lol 😂I second that!

[@kyrball]

I JUST PEED MY PANTS OMFG LMAOOOOOOOOO

[@morg05an]

😂😂😂😂 fr tho

[@uofc57]

Part of me feels like if Dean had just minded his own business, Jess would have caught up with Rory, apologized, and told her everything

[@Cassandra765]

Probably, but it's hard to mind your own business when you see someone you care about coming out of a bedroom crying.

[@mrs.jessmariano7249]

i agree. Dean should of mind his own business.

[@josiahstearns9615]

Not saying you're wrong but considering all the build up between Jess and Dean ever since Jess came to town - you have to expect that somewhere along the way it would blow up. Personally, I think it was a long time coming. However I do agree that if dean had just let it go Jess and Rory might have worked things out. That being said you have to kind of appreciate that Dean cared enough about Rory to not let Jess get away with upsetting her. The only problem with that is, Dean was currently in a relationship with Lindsey so that is where I see it going wrong. But we all know that Dean never really got over Rory - That is until the Pool House Party with Logan. Anyways, there's my LENGTHY opinion. lol

[@sarailahi7945]

uofc57 yes because when you suspect a woman of being harassed you just mind your own business. God which century do you live in??

[@keymeko95]

@@sarailahi7945 exactly. Dean thinks that Jess is a bad guy whether or not that is true, and he just saw Rory (his first love who he still cares about) come out of a room crying. For all he knows he tried something with her that she didnt want and she just got away (not that far from the truth). Even if he didnt care about her or know her it is super irresponsible or any man or woman not to check in and or try to defend a person you suspect has been either harassed or sexually assaulted

[@sarahohana6447]

I find Jess really inconsiderate in this scene, he knew Rory was still a virgin at the time, and he should, at least, have asked her how she felt. He also probably knew she wanted her first time to be special (not in a hurry at a party). No bad days excuses his behavior, and the fact that he guilted her into entering the room makes me mad. Sharing a room with him didn't mean she was ready to have sex. She was just looking for him and making sure he wasn't too bored at the party. If anything I applaud Dean for being here for her, even if they are not together anymore. He cared for her as a friend.

[@merdelune9]

Sarah Ohana thank you! People always want to ignore Jess’s behavior and Rory’s feelings. People forget that Jess brought everything that was going wrong to himself. Rory wanted to know what was wrong, and instead of telling her, he tries to avoid the conversation by having sex in a stranger’s bed. We see how he treated Shane, and he thought it would be the same with Rory.

[@Seven_Leaf]

Looking out for my guy Jess, I'm sure they were pretty blue. Of course he could have handled the situation better, but he's an 18 year old boy, give him a break.

[@merdelune9]

@@Seven_Leaf Yes, he was 18, but I see that people give Dean way a harder time when he was 16. I do understand him at certain point, but we can't ignore that there were many times he made the wrong choices. He chose to skip school, and not even do any school work, and chose to work at Wal-Mart. Luke even offered to give him more money and pay for his car insurance. Jess chose to reject Luke.

[@Seven_Leaf]

@@merdelune9 With Dean he was really controlling and possessive, which is understandable in certain situations, but Rory didn't have a bunch of "guy friends" she spent tons of time with. Something I had to deal with my first love, and was infinitely more patient and trusting about. With Jess he basically started on everyone's crap list when he moved there so of course he recoiled from those people. Instead of trying to win them over. Skipping isn't smart but again boys will be boys, especially if they have no friends. Walmart is well, at least he did something productive and on his own without having to turn to an uncle that didn't even really want him around to begin with.

[@merdelune9]

​@@Seven_Leaf I don't think Dean was neither controlling or possessive. He never said don't spend time with her friends or family; he even spent time with them. He had problems with Tristan and Jess for good reason. Both Jess and Tristan were rude to Dean and he could clearly see they both liked Rory. Isn't he allowed to feel or say anything about the situation? And the time that Dean wanted to spend the day with Rory, he got upset that she cancelled on him twice, not because he wanted to monopolize all her time. He even said that they were apart for a long time, and thought to spend time together. He even apologized later that day for the way he acted. The way I see it, Rory worked very hard at school and barely had time. Dean went to school, worked and played sports, and still tried to spend time with her. So it wasn't like he was with her ALL the time. If anything, Rory was the one who was possessive. When she found out he had an old girlfriend, she was like, "I hate the name Beth." When she found out about Dean and Lindsey, she admits that she wanted him to pine for her. And of course, when she claimed he was her boyfriend first (which, she wasn't) and then said he was "her Dean." Going to school is just as productive such as having a job; teenagers at that age want to have independence, and I understand that. However, Luke gave Jess a place to stay, twice, and gave him a job. All he wanted was from Jess to go to school and not get in trouble. Luke never said he didn't want him there, just Liz suddenly changed his life by sending Jess to him before talking to him. I just don't understand that people say that Jess didn't have anyone, when he had Luke and Rory (she tried to get him to open up). Luke did try to help him the best he could, but the same time people praise Jess for doing things on his own. You can't have it both ways. He did things his own way when he had no other choice.

[@captainclaire5529]

Nah man, there’s no excuse for Jess acting like that

[@kateh7647]

The writers making Jess do this makes me very angry. I guess I get why they put it in to show the problem of consent, but like they never really got into it they just tiptoed around the idea. So they didn’t really portray the message very well. I also think they did this so her first time could be with Dean. The writers got very annoying starting around here😂. Also the favoritism started to show and in general they kind of just threw ideas around.

[@monique4525]

@@kateh7647 exactly

[@mjayoung]

How about Because it’s real And this kind of awkward broken stuff happens when people are developing emotionally

[@kirtu9035]

literally

[@Snybarbie]

Exactly everyone in the comments are disgusting

[@Wendy-hh8fk]

the juxtaposition of rory and lane’s lovers is amazing

[@chxxii]

IKR

[@hey-wt5pq]

I think people are forgetting that Rory and Dean are friends at this point. I am not defending him starting the fight, but he sees Rory come down the stairs crying (someone he cares a lot about) and instantly tries to comfort her. He isn't as bad as all you are making him out to be in this scene geez

[@Tragic977]

hey yeah I’m not defending Dean for starting the fight, but I’m not mad at him for defending Rory. All he saw was Rory crying and seeing that Jess was the cause of it. I can’t blame him for defending Rory because for all he knew something serious could have happened

[@reptilian_0]

THANK YOU

[@drewmcmahon3742]

!!

[@signalfire15]

Jess is Rory’s boyfriend. Dean shouldn’t have intervened. Rory will choose her boyfriend’s side. Before this fight, Rory tells Dean “no,” as in, don’t hit Jess. And even after the fight, Rory only looks towards Jess and only cares for Jess, not Dean. Dean is lucky that Rory didn’t hold this against him. I would have a hard time being friends with someone who attacked my boyfriend, no matter how good his intentions are.

[@reneeg4817]

@@signalfire15 I agree. He should've stayed out of it none of his business anymore..

[@user-ir5ub6lk6q]

He was so disappointed he couldn’t hold his promise to Rory to go to prom. He probably beat himself over and over again that Dean would’ve been able to take her to prom. What he did to Rory in kyle’s bedroom was wrong but if he apologized, explained and given Rory time they could’ve survived this

[@susantamallick7736]

Frida Vole but the reason he wasn't able to do all that was because Dean couldn't mind his own business

[@justme-ew3ri]

What did he do?

[@icycupoffreshlemonade3194]

Frida Vole but its also cuz jess was being annoying to him sayin “fiGuReS”

[@merdelune9]

Rory tried to talk to Jess; she wanted to help him through whatever he was going through. Instead, he decided he rather have sex with her than try to explain.

[@andreasarmiento1999]

merdelune9 this scene is just so forced and unnecessary

[@angelibaygan9795]

Gosh, a big chunk of why Jess is so problematic as a boyfriend for Rory is that he is such a bad communicator. Dude just say what you feel. Express what you feel. Don't be ashamed of it. Ugh he would have been so perfect. Good thing he matured when he got older though. #teamAdultJess all the waaaay

[@Seven_Leaf]

It's not always that easy when you think your thoughts and feelings will disappoint everyone that you care about. You tell the truth but usually in a sarcastic way or hold your tongue and go off to brood, the maturity to just be yourself comes later on. The sarcastic stuff doesn't ever truly leave you though, but it does lessen over time.

[@macaroni1121]

Yess #TeamAdultJess !

[@avag1334]

Yes!! His character progressed and rorys declined

[@LM085]

By the time he matured and was ready for Rory - she stupidly said no to him. Something I hate the writers big time for

[@badbiddiezzz4993]

I cant believe anyone could ever stand up for Jess in this situation, people go and educate ur selves

[@Nylamcdoom]

what episode is this from

[@brooke9977]

Fr

[@zara-cm3kv]

@@Nylamcdoom s3 ep20

[@jefesohe]

right?? he’s bordering sexual assault

[@destinybella6747]

FOR REAL

[@udenoncourt2669]

I never liked Dean but in this particular scene I completely agree with what he did. Rory came out of the bedroom literally crying while Jess followed behind and said, “of course.” Jess then walked away like it was nothing. Dean thought that Rory had just been sexually assaulted (which SHE WAS.) Also, wtf was that with Jess saying, “you came up here on your own.” That was blaming her for saying no. I like Jess but not in the first seasons he was in. Rory continuously said, “Jess wait.” It wasn’t just one time she said no. (Although one time should be enough.) She said it multiple times yet he did not listen. The one time he did listen was when Rory actually had to forcefully push him off. And at the end of the entire thing, Jess walked away like he was the victim. Not okay.

[@larenaamorette]

I love Jess and I dont like Dean that much but I completely agree that what Jess did was inexcusable and Dean was definitely right in this case. But I am glad that Jess got better

[@jimson8222]

Dean could not in any way have known what had just happened. The only thing he saw was rory crying and Jess walking away. Thats not enough reason to start throwing punches. What Jess did was wrong, but Dean didnt know at that point what Jess did. They were both in the wrong here.

[@udenoncourt2669]

@@jimson8222 that’s very true

[@mahal1a]

@@jimson8222 true but in my opinion if I saw a girl walking away from a room crying, her bf walking after her calling after her. I’d assume she was sexually assaulted

[@zumann874]

no i totally dont understand how yall r saying dean came to know she was "sexually assaulted"??? first of all it wasn't assault. jess was so wrong here i agree, but it's not even close to assault. and how tf would dean know it is? like if u saw someone crying from a bedroo, its immediately assault??? it couldn't have been a fight??

[@daniellebriganti9790]

You can see the chemistry between Alexis and Milo yup definitely dating

[@younggoth6491]

I don't see ew

[@Jennah0908]

I don’t see it. Alexis is awkward. There was more chemistry between her and Logan actually.

[@anthonyshepherd265]

Jennah 0908 no, there wasn’t. Lol.

[@anthonyshepherd265]

Young Goth you’re blind.

[@younggoth6491]

@@anthonyshepherd265 I saw, but with Dean

[@Nepaliifoodie]

The fact that people are mad at dean for trying to comfort a friend ( or an ex girlfriend) rather than jess who tried to assault her is so annoying!!!!

[@trevonpernell0814]

You ain't lying!

[@cristiantilinzuniga8049]

People don't think, it is really annoying and almost cringy for defending Jess xd

[@isaacpulido5693]

People are stupid

[@barbyyalejandre]

no frrrrr

[@dayschange2]

Right! I’m shocked that there are comments going “if Dean had minded his business Jess would have explained everything 🥺,” like the fact that Jess was having a bad day would excuse the fact that he just tried to take her pants as she was trying get him off her.

[@lciav]

I'm sorry but Jess was a terrible boyfriend. He wasn't ready to be dating someone seriously. He never communicated his feelings to Rory. When something was wrong, he hid it from everyone. Whether there's a justification in there or not, it kills relationships when you don't communicate. There was no strong foundation to their relationship because Jess was emotionally closed off. I don't get how people think his relationship with Rory was good. He never answered direct questions, he'd always deflect, and he'd lie ALL the time. That would drive me insane. Sure he has good hair but that's about all he has going for him.

[@a79899]

FACTSS although he shared the same interest in books he didn't treat her properly there was no communication and they never fulfilled the same energy towards each other! dean seemed to try and be there for rory with good communication, he loved rory for the way she was unlike jess.

[@omkargurav8992]

One of the thing which bothered me was when he went for dinner to emily and had black eye, he could have just told rory swan attacked him. He was so immature. He acted like something big happened and we will talk about it later like if it was a big deal.

[@destinybella6747]

AGREE

[@smoothcashewbutter8820]

I mean... I've never see anyone saying theire relationship was good. I've mostly seen people who were more in love of what could have been had they met at a different time. Teen Jess was an awful boyfriend, and person, but Adult Jess had grown out of that shitty behavior. And that's why people think Jess is the best option, because they think of Adult Jess, not Teen Jess. Everyone knows Teen Jess is a jerk. He had his issues, yes, I can sympathize with him, but it still doesnt justify his actions. For me, the roles are reversed, before Rory was too good for him, but now Adult Jess is too good for Rory.

[@mrnathanaelchen]

thank God I’m not the only one who despises Jess

[@Urfavav_]

Dean wasn’t my favorite character but he did right here warmed my heart. This shows that after everything he still deeply cares about Rory.

[@laharig9622]

The contrast between him and logan is so clear here. Logan asked for rory's consent twice and always made her feel safe.

[@jennyboldt751]

Exactly what I was thinking 🙌

[@sarapinkandpurple]

Yeah that is one thing I liked about Logan is he asked and there was consent.

[@noragleason8884]

Ik I freaking love Logan

[@loony3822]

Most of the comments here disgust me. You guys are seriously making up excuses for Jess and putting the blame on Dean???? WTH, he assaulted Rory and yelled at her when she's been nothing but sweet to him. Dean beat him up deservedly so. I'm against violence, don't get me wrong, but what Jess did was way worse than what Dean did. Disturbing to see how y'all fail to see that.

[@loony3822]

@imafraidofchuckycheese666 did you see the same video I saw? He forced himself upon her even after she asked him to stop. That's sexual assault.

[@daisyhernandez26]

@@loony3822 Yes I agree with u. Do yk What Jess meant when he told Dean “figures” ? Also did they break up after this right? I haven’t seen the full show but just wanted to know lol.

[@loony3822]

@@daisyhernandez26 i think he said 'figures' cause like he was dissapointed but not surprised to see dean consoling rory, so he said that in a kind of ironic way to say that he wasnt surprised? im not sure now. And no, they didnt break up just yet, actually they never broke up, Jess just left. He went to another town where his dad lived I think without telling Rory and only came back about a year later.

[@daisyhernandez26]

@@loony3822 I need to watch it ASAP lol thx

[@loony3822]

@@melindam2776 its a tv show, my comment has nothing with the me too movement... but anyways, no, i havent, hopefully i never will, but the statistics say 97% so ill have to be lucky... And im just frustrated with how people are blindly defending him???? how was that as fast as possible, he didnt even stop when she explicitly said "wait". it might not be that serious but what he did was wrog either way, rory did not over react, i would would react like that too if my boyfriend disrespected my boundaries and yelled at me afterwards, and im pretty sure id break up with him too

[@elzawalkers]

The fact that Alexis dated both Jared and Milo is beyond me 😂

[@kissame104]

She didn't date Jared.

[@panda5122]

Actors often end up dating co-stars. They're on set 12-16 hours of the day, day after day. They tend to couple off simply because they're only interacting with actors all day.

[@luilo7848]

She secretly dated jared when the filming started for 2 years.

[@alondraa.3522]

@@luilo7848 that’s not true. According to Jared it was during the first season and they only went on a couple of dates, so they weren’t serious

[@mayradiaz147]

@@alondraa.3522 That's true. They dated when the filming the 1 season.

[@Solahi-kq2gz]

I’m confident that the writers of the show never intended for this to be viewed as assault. The intent was to create a rift between Jess and Rory centered around Jess's inability to communicate or process his own trauma and low self esteem, causing him to lash out at Rory in the ensuing argument and thus be a catalyst for their furthered development as characters. At the time that the show was airing many scenes like this weren't perceived the same way they are now. That doesn't make it right of course but that's just what it is, some things don't age as well because people today are more aware and educated on these subjects. I'm certain that if this show was being made today, the scene in question would have played out quite differently. It seems clear that the writers never intended to have Jess do something that would completely vilify him in the eyes of the fans. It’s really a shame because it causes so many people to completely overlook all of the complex emotions and character work going on here.

[@fynnfish]

Uff thank you so much for this. This was why I was so on the fence about the claim that this scene was SA. If I imagined this as a real life moment where a girl was just too petrified to say anything (which happens) then this would have ended horribly. But at the same time I absolutely can’t imagine Jess to continue without him realizing a minute or so later that what he was doing at the time was wrong. It’s just not in his character not confirming that Rory was okay with the situation. So I believe he wouldn’t have done much more even if she didn’t push him of. BUT he already crossed a border here and he so should have had apologised immediately after stopping. Yet I just can’t imagine him just continuing and ignoring her saying stop once the situation got more spicy. I think the reason is something that a person wrote on the previous video, namely that Jess was looking for connection in that scene. That day was his low point and that’s why he went further than they did up to this point. Which is also the reason why he is taking it so negatively that she rejected him. Him saying „I don’t know what to think anymore“ because he didn’t feel the connection at that time was actually pretty sad. And if Jess continued, he would have quickly realised that he absolutely didn’t establish any closer connection in that moment there. Anyway, I think this is what the writers originally were thinking when they wrote this scene, and they had no awareness that they wrote a SA scene, because Rory also takes no trauma away from the assault. She is only crying because Jess is screaming at her and she didn’t know what she did wrong. Later there is a scene where she tells her mother about what happened that night, but Lorelai is only concerned about the question if the two did it or not, and not really telling her daughter that she should realise that she almost got assaulted that evening. So that’s another hint that the writers didn’t see the situation as SA.

[@terryparker9237]

He wasn't listening to her, and that wasn't right. It also doesn't seem like he had a threatening intention or demeanor. It doesn't seem like she felt threatened either. It wasn't his best moment, but SA was not so clearly defined 20 years ago. For perspective, there was a time not so long ago that marital SA wasn't considered to be a thing. Society standards change over time.

[@bee__222]

Finally!!! I was thinking this but didn’t know how to word it. Thank you for this comment, everyone completely overlooks jess’s communication problems and significance of his character as a whole because of one unintentionally bad scene. Jess’s character was never meant to hurt Rory in any way but now people think otherwise. It’s a complete shame.

[@fynnfish]

@@bee__222 there is a lot of fanfiction I found after I rewatched the show and it dives all into this topic waaaay deeper, I was so fascinated by it! A lot of people actually thought about how his life must have been for him to turn out this way, trauma, self preservation etc. it's really interesting to see how a show that doesn't have a lot of heavy/sad drama and which is mostly comedy integrated a character that must have had a pretty depressing past. That's why so many people love him, he is the only character that develops a lot apart from Rory (and maybe Lane) and he is the only one who starts out in a really bad place and is probably the one who ends up best. That's also the reason why many think he is endgame, Dean was only a 2D character, he had no storyline of his own really and no real ambition. I'm currently rewatching the Logan episodes and he is more fleshed out than Dean but god after Jess his character and his relationship with rory feel really really COLD. And that dude is so manipulative, he really is Christopher 2.0

[@Al-ho1oo]

@@fynnfishagreed, although I think she was assaulted, not “almost assaulted”. I remember when I was younger I had only had non consensual interactions and when I met my now husband I realized what a kiss felt like, what a caress felt like. For me to define those things as kisses, caresses and so on, is yet another traumatizing experience. Kisses don’t make you feel pain, shame, terror. They don’t leave scars. Calling them what they were freed me from the constant feeling of being built “wrong”. Even though I had no idea what consent was, I knew what happened to me was wrong and I knew that it would linger.

[@madameee4274]

I'm sorry but I don't know how people can defend Jess for this and say he "didn't force himself on Rory." Then what else does it look like to you? Rory told him to wait (indicating for him to stop) MULTIPLE times and was obviously uncomfortable. He even started unbuckling her pants while she was telling him to wait. The only time he stopped was when she had to physically push Jess off of her. So no, Jess did not stop when he was told. If Jess weren't hot, would you all be able to see that he was forcing himself on her? What if it happened to you? On top of that, he lashed out at her for wanting to stop. That sounds pretty toxic to me. Also I'm not saying what Dean did was completely justified because he has some issues, too, but think about it: what else would he think happened if the girl he used to be in love with and still cared about came out of a room at a party with another guy and she was crying? Wouldn't that seem a little suspicious? So I can understand why he would've been mad at Jess, because if the same thing happened to one of my friends with a guy at a party, I would've been pretty damn mad. Dean has some issues, but in this situation, I can understand why he would start a fight with Jess.

[@shaharfrenkel7247]

It isn't even about "a gorl he used to be in love with" ut is about how it is important for every person, at every party, when he sees a girl comes out of a room with a boy crying, to check up on her, its what we want all people to do

[@michemash8860]

I fully dislike Jess 👎 & Yes, he’s toxic. But this was not SA. Things were going one way, she pumped the brakes, he took a moment too long to stop. & then he threw a fit because he’s a jerk and always has been. Had he continued after she shoved him off I’d easily call it but that didn’t happen.

[@kavyamani9523]

Wow so many people defending Jess forcing himself on Rory. Y'all hate on Dean for far less!

[@drewmcmahon3742]

facts

[@logansmm]

Well me rory is Logan

[@jenxnx]

he didn’t force himself on her though in the slightest?

[@anya7733]

I usually love jess and hats dean but I will admit what jess did was wrong. I still think dean shoulda minded his business tho and plus I hate him hes a big jerk still team jess

[@danielabaroni4020]

@@jenxnx kissing her and going down her body while she keeps saying to wait and stop.

[@lovefromwonderland]

I’m glad everyone in the comments agrees this was sexual assault. I always felt like people glossed over this when discussing his relationship with Rory. Dean saw a crying Rory and people said he should have minded his own business??? Y’all will defend Jess no matter what.

[@merdelune9]

True. They give harder time to Dean when he tells Rory he loved her than Jess actually hurting Rory.

[@TheONLYGamer-Girl]

Yup

[@schuppen4183]

Ich sehe das so wie du, danke

[@philchickenfingers1190]

It literally wasn’t

[@Jennah0908]

The amount of people defending Jess 😂 regardless of what Dean did, Jess is still an immature, pushy, angry prick who put Rory in an uncomfortable situation. He honestly irritated me so much this episode to the point I no longer cared for them. He was complaining the whole friking time at the party. I believe he does love Rory but he needs to grow up!!

[@LaudePelícula]

And he DID grow up! You can see slight changes in season 4, but the person he was in season 6 and the revival, is even better than Rory herself. And I think they deserve to be together.

[@hetbann]

too bad this isnt named rory & jess (69)

[@annieho7446]

BAHAHHAAH

[@Scooby_Nubie]

DED

[@reereadstoomuch]

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

[@sirileva2268]

😂😂😂

[@reptilian_0]

OMG I CANTTTTT MY MINDDDDD

[@gee2541]

he's literally the worst?? how do people find him romantic or ship this lmao even the way he yelled at her was horrible. she did nothing wrong and that punch was deserved honestly.

[@lcall4619]

I know right it's the fact that he had the audacity to say "jeez" and be angry because she didn't let him force himself on her 😭😭 like bruhhhhh

[@metalbox_]

Because Jess was usually ok with Rory and made sure she was comfortable(IN GENERAL, NOT IN THIS SCENE). It was a nice relationship, however, this scene...this scene is not romantic in any way, and the fact that he yelled at her?? What?? They actually had some chemistry but this scene is so unforgivable and undefendable.

[@brendacastro7565]

god i know im late but this comments are lame how can everyone is hating on dean while jess here was forcing himself on rory. u must be greatfull that that has never happened to you but he made her feel uncomfortable and she said no repeatedly, yes he stopped and yes i know what was going on but you cant just excuse it cause he felt sad or whatever

[@giusleao]

i like jess but if this ever happened to me I was be rlly sad and never talk to the person again

[@chaelisings]

@@giusleao this is why i hate teen jess because this is one of the many things he did wrong to rory. Now adult jess is soo much better.

[@omkargurav8992]

Jess stans are just too much blind.

[@sabinalechnerova7345]

What is the name of song ? Does anyone know ? Thanks

[@jayclearmen411]

He definitely was not Forcing anything!! He was stressed an caught up!! She is clearly kissing him back so knock it off!! He was merely escalating a bit too fast for her comfort soon as she say something he backed off..but he was frustrated so he lashed out

[@shaharfrenkel7247]

I don't think sexual assault can ever be excused and im so mad at Jess for that scene, it was just so wrong and the fact we fail to mantion this scene a lot of the times is very bad. However, i also feel for him in that time of his life, his life was so fucked up that he just wanted to drown himself and his pain in Rory's love, because she was the bright spot in his not so bright life... and that's just so sad, but also explains how she is the only person he liked or payed attention to and she is the reason he wanted to get his life together sometimes... I don't know Jess is really a complicated person and this was the lowest point for him....

[@merdelune9]

I would agree with you, but to be honest he brought it to himself. Jess came back to town and he convinced Luke to let him stay. Luke’s only condition that he had to graduate; something he could’ve easily do because he claimed to be smarter than anyone else in school. At that time Jess wasn’t going through anything because he was living rent-free, had a car, had a girlfriend, had a job. Then Jess decides to work at Wal-Mart, which is not bad, but he neglected school. And it’s not like he had to pay rent or didn’t have anyone to help him. The principal called him many times, but Jess ignored him until he had no choice but to see him. When Luke finds out he’s might not graduate, he offers Jess a raise and to pay for his insurance, but he’s too proud to accept. So at this point, Jess has no excuse for his behavior.

[@shaharfrenkel7247]

@@merdelune9 jess grew up feeling the world is against him, he didn't know how to accept help, he was rebelious, which is something i think we can relate to where he grew up, and how he grew up, which we know very little about, by the time he came to town he was massed up, we don't know why... I agree that he handled it badly, and that he made a lot of mistakes, but when someone grows up a certain way, no amount of money or wealth or security can just rid him of it, it something that needs to come from within, and eventually did come to him... I dont think anything can escues his bad actions, but i think tryibg to understand where he was coming for is important, or at least interesting, especially since his evolvement was more impressive than most characters

[@cristiantilinzuniga8049]

He is not that complicated tbh, he thinks he is the only one who has problems, idk why Rory dumped Dean for that piece of crap.

[@shaharfrenkel7247]

@@cristiantilinzuniga8049 you have no idea what was going on in his life before what we see on the show (of course im talking about the character, who didn't really have a past, but i think we can say that there was just for the sake of talking about the character). I believe something has made him behave that way, something in his childhood needs to be wrong for him to turn out like that. And while we don't know what that is i think it is significant and for the story and is what makes him complicated, people are complicated,they don't just descide ome day to become a certain way

[@merdelune9]

@@shaharfrenkel7247 @kaleb We learn later on that Liz was projecting on TJ, that Jess grew up without discipline. You can see that Liz loves Jess by the way she acts around him. Liz is very flaky, and probably wanted to raise Jess without rules, because she herself did a lot of stuff in high school. Also, she probably felt guilty because Jess grew up without his dad, so she let him do whatever he wanted to compensate. Not having discipline might create a kid who is "hell on wheels" like Liz said. Liz told TJ, "this kid will grow up with no discipline. It'll get out of control. Then we'll end up having to send it away."

[@idfy2599]

Dean sucks. ALWAYS has had anger issues. With RORY or Jess or Lindsey. With Luke as well. Can't mind his own business.

[@tammyhayes6920]

Nah its just you who sucks :)

[@babashiba5558]

Tammy Hayes did you even watch the show?

[@tammyhayes6920]

@@babashiba5558 yeah every episode. I just like dean better than the other guys. I just love Jared Padalecki

[@babashiba5558]

Tammy Hayes just because you like the actor doesn’t mean he plays the best character

[@sharkgirl1617]

Yeeah

[@tairamcbride7536]

"Dean, no!" DEAN, YES

[@merdelune9]

That punch was satisfying

[@hoursandmins256]

I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about this. Everyone paints dean as the bad guy but they never even mention that jess forced himself onto rory like that. Everyone says Jess is the best and I believed them until I saw this. This is disappointing

[@ninasuperbass]

I really don't get WHY everyone loves Jess

[@dazzlekazzle]

​@@ninasuperbass same 😭 he was toxic, annoying, not to mention this scene and always put the bare minimum efforts for Rory. Dean was farrr better.

[@nadimabbas4093]

I don't understand why Dean attacked Jess just for making Rory cry. I mean Dean is with Lindsay now and it's not his job to defend Rory anymore. It was really none of his business and he should have stay focused on his girlfriend instead of his ex. Apparently, Dean still has feelings for Rory and I wonder what Lindsay was thinking when she witnessed the fight

[@marissabell7731]

Nadim Abbas Dean I think that Dean assumed since Jess made Rory cry and they came from upstairs that Jess tried to force himself on her; Dean still had feelings for Rory which is why he got involved. I was never a fan of Jess.

[@nadimabbas4093]

@@marissabell7731 Yeah Jess sort of did force himself on Rory because he's the one who started the make-out session. It's a good thing Rory stopped him or she would have made the same mistake as Lorelai. It doesn't matter if Dean is still in love with Rory because Rory isn't interested in getting back together anyway

[@sarailahi7945]

Nadim Abbas yes, because when a woman is being harassed you just mind your own business

[@xxhorror13]

I agree dean should have minded his own business but this was a fight waiting to happen not to mention Dean still had steam to blow off from Jess taking Rory from him. That's just my thoughts

[@icycupoffreshlemonade3194]

Nadim Abbas cuz jess went “figures” at his face. He disrespects him and annoys him contantly

[@idfy2599]

Did not like the writers screwing this relationship up. Jess trying to fool around with Rory, then fighting with Dean. Later episodes he can't even talk to her. Way out of character. He's a messed up kid, but not stupid. Of all the BF's she had, he seemed the most intellctual. Logan was well read, but usually just wasted his opportunities. Trust fund kids. Arrogant, spoiled, and smart..... Ass.

[@omkargurav8992]

Jess was never good character.

[@jessicarose7350]

being “messed up” isn’t an excuse for secual assault

[@zumann874]

@@jessicarose7350 no one said it was. also it not "sexual assault". jess was so in the wrong here. but it isnt even close to assault like what the hell

[@zumann874]

@@omkargurav8992 he became a great character, something you'll never become in your life cuz you're such a fcking loser with no job but to spread hate on him everywhere. like how miserable your life must be if you have nothing better to do?

[@stancesome]

@@jessicarose7350this is NOT sexual assault just wait till you know what actual assault is💀

[@prongssupremacy]

jess deserved that, idc what anyone says. yes, im team jess, but he definitely deserved that. i dont care HOW upset he was, he had no right to take it out on rory and push boundaries like that. thank god he matured as an adult and became a better person because if he had stayed like this i wouldnt have liked him. dean had every right to punch him, i seriously dont get how people are blaming this on dean. it literally doesnt even have anythign to do with him liking rory, they were friends here and he cares about her so much, youd be mad too if you saw someone you cared about crying because of someone. he's justified in punching him, in fact, i was rooting for him here.

[@cookieeofcc]

i can’t imagine how scared rory must have felt. someone she trusted with her life wouldn’t listen to her. not to mention he’s much stronger than her which makes it a lot harder for her to get out of that position.

[@katherinegruber499]

Dean seemed like such a sweet guy who always protected Rory

[@Monamondragon]

Thank u for this, Dean

[@a79899]

it's annoying how much people obsess over jess. dean was looking out for her in this scene as a friend and not out of jealousy. jess was in the wrong for blaming her and getting annoyed for stopping before anything happened. in my opinion he deserved the punch from dean, sorry not sorry!!

[@faithd2834]

Wait so why are people saying she's crying because he "force her" when she crying at the fact he YELLED at her? I can't tell if I'm watching the same clip or...?

[@Seven_Leaf]

Cause Rory could do no wrong back then? I have no idea honestly, and I'm pretty sure if mine were ever that blue I'd have been a bit to touchy-feely as well. Jess took "wait" as no basically immediately (in teen boy with blue b. time) is what I saw though.

[@Chambely]

She was saying..Jess wait ...Jess wait and he continued and tried to unbutton her pants yes this is sexual harrassment.

[@lynns4122]

@@Seven_Leaf Bitch are you dumb? She said Jess wait and he started to unzip her pants. Do blue balls make you unable to understand words?

[@sian2060]

@@Seven_Leaf blue balls isn't actually a serious thing and doesn't matter at all. it's a shitty excuse to manipulate someone into having sex when they clearly don't want to but nice try

[@zumann874]

@@Chambely oh god

[@saii_10720]

Is it only me? But I never liked Dean since the beginning

[@payneicecold3000]

Why is that? He was only the BEST boyfriend Rory has had. The character and the actress who plays her has said this multiple times.

[@FGJS28]

Me

[@estellasomo5596]

Payneeicecold3000 he wasn’t. He made so many complications for Rory if only you watch the whole show. He can’t trust her and has caused her so much anxiety, as well as hurt other around her.

[@payneicecold3000]

@@estellasomo5596 All of that are pure lies. Lol Dean was by far her best boyfriend. Rory has stated this multiple times.

[@estellasomo5596]

Nah

[@Miumiu0404]

I hate Rory so much. She got bored with Dean so she hooked up with Jess. Now that she realizes Jess isn't as romantic as she wants him to be, she hooked up again with Dean who was now married. She honestly doesn't deserves Dean or Jess. Logan was indeed perfect for her. They're both immature and restless.

[@miryamk6472]

First of all she wasn't "bored" with Dean, she was just simply in love with jess (but still loved Dean). And second of all she didn't "hook up" with Jess while being with Dean, it was just a kiss( which i can understand why you get mad at). But still didn't hooked up with him.

[@raya3513]

Doll Face SAME

[@raya3513]

shes a terrible gf and didn’t deserve them

[@Lina-lu5fw]

Y'all are fucking insane omg, it's not about Jess not being romantic enough, it's about him almost forcing himself on her, yelling at her, not communicating and having mood swings so bad he lashes out his frustration at her!! It's abusive and toxic, behavior and it made Rory feel like crap! Everyone would feel that way if your bf yelled at u for no reason, was irritated all the time and didn't communicate, I'm talking from experience. Stop blaming Rory because Jess is 100% in the wrong here.

[@augustharper15]

Lina RORY came upstairs, he didn’t invite her...they were kissing and he wanted to take it to the next level, she didn’t want to, he stopped. He has communication issues, as he’s flawed like Dean and Rory are too (in their own ways). Y’all are so sensitive. He didn’t actually force himself on her or rape her so stop acting like he did.

[@potatoes4lifersxd813]

Edit: Hello year ago me. So I feel like I need to clear things up cause rereading this comment is making me realize how much my thoughts have changed about this scene. First of all, again, Jess was in the wrong here. But I don’t think I’d go as far as to label it as sexual assault. Let me paint a little picture for ya. Jess just found out that he wasn’t going to graduate (it might have been the day of, but at least in the same week of this scene) and so he is clearly struggling. He and Luke made a deal when he came back from New York that he cannot stay if he doesn’t graduate. Which means he was struggling to figure out what he was going to do, where he was gonna go, and how he was going to tell Rory he was gonna have to leave again. Not to mention that he can’t take her to prom, which she was really excited about, and I know that he felt super bad for letting her down. Just so many thoughts flying through his head. So then he’s at the party, the sad boy that he is, thinking about everything that is stressing him out. Like majorly struggling. Like someone needs to give him a hug kind of struggling. And Jess has a massive fear of confrontation, we all know this, so of course this would translate to his thoughts as well. He wants to get away from his eternal struggle, and how might he do that? boom. sex. like that’s the obvious choice for a 18-yr-old boy. i showed this scene to my friend who has never seen gilmore girls (and made sure to give her all the context) and she agrees with me when i say that it’s not as bad as people make it seem to be. she said something which is just an awesome way to view this moment. she said that sometimes she gets really upset over something, and physically can’t hear what someone else is saying. a common form of disassociation. and that’s what i think happened here. he couldn’t hear or register Rory’s resistance because of all the thoughts in his head. and let’s just make this clear that he did not continue. he did not go all the way! she did not have to do much to get him to stop. (she literally just started sitting up and then he moved away) and i think that’s just really important. he didn’t get violent, he didn’t try to keep doing it after he registered what was going on. and even though he definitely shouldn’t have yelled in response, he wasn’t mad at her, he was just mad at the stuff he couldn’t control. “i don’t know what i think anymore.” his words describe it perfectly. and when rory started walking away, like past year me said, he IMMEDIATELY went to go apologize, saying “you didn’t do anything.” he was clearly apologetic and embarrassed for what had happened. he wanted to go and make amends. he cared. again, i truly believe if stupid dean didn’t get in the way he would’ve apologized and explained everything to rory. So there you go. Jess did not almost rape rory. This is not a Where The Crawdads Sing moment on the beach or a Lessons in Chemistry moment with the pencil. I feel like we gotta make that clear, draw that line. Also I’m keeping my past comment up just because I think it’s important to highlight a change in perspective and opinion. Previous comment: as a 100% team jess fan, I hate this episode so much. This was definitely Jess’ lowest point, and I def don’t condone his actions. Like this was totally sexual assault it makes me sick. I did however appreciate that he immediately regretted what he did and was about to run after her and apologize, but ofc Dean got in the way. If only he got a chance to apologize before Dean went overprotective, they might’ve been able to heal their relationship enough to be end game. But in a different viewpoint I’m kinda glad that he ran away to California. It gave him time to grow up and become a better person. When he comes back he’s matured and the fact he still never got over her after all those years shows how much he cares about her. If we’re talking the characters themselves and not the writers and what they decided to do, i honestly believe this part would’ve never happened. It was just so out of character, and you learn throughout the show how goddamn much Jess cares about Rory, it just doesn’t make sense why he would treat her like that. Like I know he had some stuff going on, and he was still figuring out the world, but that doesn’t mean it made sense. All in all, I’ve forgiven him enough over the series to still be team jess, considering all the good things he did for Rory. Like they truly brought out the best in each other. And he changed a lot after this whole incident, while Rory also changed, but not for the better. Them reuniting and Jess getting her back into Yale, really put perspective on their characters. Like Rory goes down a path that is so rotten, I no longer like her as a character. But Jess, even though he messed up, like big time, and was also not the best communicator as a kid, he matured enough and is now a way better person. Like I love him before this episode, and then I love him even more after, because he recognized the faults he had, and grew from them. If I got to choose what happened in this ep, he would’ve gotten to apologize in this episode. i still think he would’ve gone to cali, because that seems like smth he would do, and considering the fact he’d probably have a lot of self guilt for what he did, even if he did apologize to her. i feel like he would’ve decided she’s better off without him. then he comes back and the rest of that happens, but in my heart she chooses to not sleep with dean and comes with jess to new york. of course after he apologizes again. but that’s not what happens, but i’m team jess anyway cause i like him as a whole. now for all the dean stans in the comments: Dean treated Rory about the same throughout their entire relationship then Jess treated her in this one episode. Dean was wayyyyy to possessive, and literally had no trust in her at all. jess did. when rory decided to be friends with dean again, jess was mad, but he trusted rory, and therefore wasn’t all possessive and angry. dean also got angry over the tiniest things, and blew everything wayyyyy out of proportion. it makes me sick. like i’m genuinely scared of him. and that is sooooooo toxic to be like that to your girlfriend. rory, for basically the whole time she’s with jess, if she slips the tiniest bit she asks “are you mad?” or “please don’t be mad” and jess has to assure her that he isn’t. soooooo toxic, like she felt she had to do that to her boyfriend. she felt like it wasn’t safe to be around anyone of the opposite sex when she was dating dean. it makes me sick, i genuinely hate dean. and when he got the news of how rory broke her hand? go rewatch that and tell me dean is a good guy. i DARE you.

[@zumann874]

exactly, youre so right

[@TasTheBlue54]

Anything you write after this being a SA os just you justifying why you are team Jess. The audacity to know you are be-siding a sexual predator and yet keep doing it is just out if this world.

[@whowroteholdencaulfield]

finally someone that’s not defending jess but is still team jess

[@jester1664]

The fact that jess tries to justify his behaviour by implying that Rory coming upstairs to check on her boyfriend (who seemed upset and disappeared) gave him consent to have sex with her... It doesn't matter if he's upset, he effectively made the situation even worse with Rory by letting her down even further and betraying her trust. The nerve to get angry at someone who has expressed they don't want sex when it reaches past the stage of comfort when the consent was never given is kind of sickening tbh. When people say its wrong that Rory went to Dean when they were broken up and he was there with another woman, just look at it from her prospective. She's at a party, where she doesn't really know anyone very well expect her friend and Dean. Rory obviously feels emotional and vulnerable in this moment and Dean is the first person she sees (even if she wanted to go to her friend, she was busy, and disturbing her would have made a scene ik it ended up being a scene anyway lol but Rory couldn't have known it would be like that). She could always rely on him and in this moment things like past boyfriends etc aren't important. Of course she's going to tell him what's going on, she needs someone to confide in. Then it's kind of justifiable that Dean would hit jess, look at it from his perspective. Someone you care for has just come flying down the stairs crying shortly followed by their boyfriend, who you know doesn't have a good reputation. Of course he's going to assume that some kind of assault has taken place, whether it's physical or sexual. In that moment Dean must of been enraged by the idea that something like that could have just happened to Rory. Obviously he's not going to go up to jess and have a civilised conversation with him: asking if he had done anything to her. He knows by now that's not the way jess works, and besides, would you really think talking would solve this situation?? You know anyone in this situation would deny accusations if questioned about it. And you know for a fact something serious must have happened for a reaction like Rorys. I also hate jess' reaction to seeing Rory crying to Dean, as if to say "as soon as something happens with us you go back to him". He has no right to be upset, he shouldn't be seeing Dean as some kind of competition when he has just hurt Rory to this degree. He was ready to walk away as if Rorys loyalty couldn't be trusted when he had just broken hers. His resentment of dean carries on the next day too, even when he had time to think about it he kept his immaturity and failed to see sense. When he mocks the fact that Dean is appearing as a responsible adult it just goes to show that he doesn't think of what he did as a big deal as he focuses more on bitterness then trying to make things right. he should have realised he would get some kind of comeuppance by acting in the way he did. When he saw Rory with Dean all thoughts of making things right with her went away, instead he does what he always does and made a sarcastic comment before leaving. He didn't even try to talk to her. Maybe if he had, Dean would've tried to tell him to back off instead. All of these characters aren't exactly great. Rory has a reputation of being a cheater/ the other woman. Dean also cheats. But at least those situations had consent and weren't forced. This show has a tendacy to annoy me at times because alot of girls grow up watching this show, myself included. Seeing broken and toxic relationships like this doesn't help impressionable teens decide what is best for them in a relationship. It might be clear to adults that jess was in the wrong here, but the amount of toxic relationships and cheating normalises this kind of behaviour and shows these experiences as something to expect. One thing I am glad for though, is when Rory asks what she did wrong as she ran away, and then jess saying to himself that she didn't do anything wrong.

[@merdelune9]

I agree with everything, especially about impressionable teens. I think the worst line in the whole show was when Lane tells Rory, “*EVERY* girl *HAS* to fall for a bad boy. It’s the *RULE*.” What kind of “rule” is this? That is ok to be with a “bad” boy because it’s “exciting” and “unpredictable.” Jess was only nice when he felt like it or it was convenient to him (he was really nice to his dad’s girlfriend). What people fails to see that a guy who treats anyone but you horrible, it is a matter of time until he starts treating you like crap. At the end, Rory even confessed that Jess didn’t her right (4x22) and treated her like dirt (3x20).

[@katien3022]

You’re pretty spot on. I do think it does a good job of creating realistic characters. They all had flaws, they all failed another person in some way or made major mistakes. That’s just reality. That said, I definitely would be cautious of letting my future daughter watch it until she was old enough and we could discuss all our thoughts on it. Because the downfall and conclusion of Rory’s character in this story is really disappointing and doesn’t send a very positive message to young women. Also, the cheating and relationships the Gilmore girls have are not relationships I desire at all for my daughter and I don’t agree with a lot of Lorelei’s views on sex that she unfortunately passes onto her daughter due to her selfishness and immaturity in relationships.

[@annagranados8619]

Jess was completely wrong in this, even if he was upset about everything going on he shouldn't have taken all on rory. And if rory said "stop" he should have done it right away. He must've apologized after that

[@larenaamorette]

0:21 the way he leans onto her hand is so cute!

[@ande.sinclair]

They are one of the best couples

[@amna3169]

@@ande.sinclair they were but it was quite toxic like they were the right people but just at the wrong time. I know Jess had a bad day but that’s not an excuse for forcing himself onto Rory after she said “wait” 3 times and you could clearly tell that she was really uncomfortable. She finally got herself off of him after he was about to put her unzip her trousers

[@amna3169]

Btw this comment wasn’t meant to be against you I was just saying my point of view

[@larenaamorette]

@@amna3169 I completely understand and I totally agree! I ship them but more so when they're older. They understand each other so well and I definitely think it was right person wrong time

[@Steph_Curry123]

Yesssss

[@rosedavis6549]

The next day when Lorelai found out that the fight was over Rory and she started singing “did you ever know that you’re my hero” to Rory was the icing on the cake 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@midapita]

LMAO I loved that😭

[@lillaharkai9128]

I can't get how could Lindsay marry Dean, after she saw him fighting over her ex. Pretty dumb.

[@oooh19]

well he thought jess tried to force himself onto rory so yea she couldnt know he had feelings for her

[@jessicarose7350]

are u a fucking dumbass? u see a person h care ab coming out of a room cruing and her boyfriend following. ur first instinct would be to protect ur friend. the fact that ur hating on dean for DEFENDING and caring ab his friend is fucking disgusting

[@leh5593]

​@@jessicarose7350 OMG chill who hates Dean? He's a fictional character first of all. The dumb was for Lindsay dear. And not in a pejorative way but come on. She had to at least guess that he is not over her.

[@deziahwoodson8612]

okay i hate dean but y’all saying “if he would’ve minded his business” he sees a girl he used to be in love with and is now good friends with coming out of a room at a party crying…… who wouldn’t check if they where okay 😭

[@swiftie4ever2010]

stop putting the blame on dean! jess is the one who was in the wrong. dean was just supporting his ex girlfriend

[@zumann874]

he wasnt wrong to ask rory what happened. he was wrong to initiate the fight with jess when he had no idea what had happened

[@gracelebby]

Was I the only one super happy to see this fight

[@rae_bear]

Grace LeBreton no

[@rivanaidu8827]

Grace LeBreton nope

[@serenitybeats1677]

It was very satisfying. A really good release of tensions

[@LaudePelícula]

Well, I'm team Jess, so I don't (althought I don't think this is right or justified), but I was a little amused, I was laughing so hard when I watched this for the first time.

[@TasTheBlue54]

No

[@katherineripia3738]

The writers ruined this couple. They were so cute

[@quackson4905]

No, Dean was the best bf no one can change my mind.

[@nathanklapsas4513]

The writers dumbed Dean down tho. In season one he was so smart before the car incident. Then he just got downgraded to the point where he was saying “I like beer”.

[@ajtraceey]

i cant believe im seeing people defend sexual assault 😭😭😭 she pushed him off 4 times before he got pissed and never spoke to her again

[@pameun2323]

yall trying to defend Jess so hard huh

[@SR-ml6mb]

I don't know about you but I cried when Dean started the fight. I mean, he just loves her and wants to protect her. I'm team Jess but Dean was and is the best boyfriend one could ask for

[@merdelune9]

Thank you!

[@jackhalo56]

Team Dean thanks you.

[@gwendolyn2442]

Why are you team Jess when he literally assaulted her???

[@ande.sinclair]

@@gwendolyn2442 he didn’t tho

[@midapita]

@@ande.sinclair he literally kept touching her when she asked him to stop

[@jailenneduran6344]

Why is everybody talking like Jess was a victim. Yes he didn’t get the tickets because it’s his fault he didn’t pass. He always had a bad actitud towards everybody and never communicated whatever was going on to anybody so how was Rory or anybody supposed to know what he was upset about.

[@merdelune9]

jailenne duran exactly! Rory and Luke tried to help him, but he wants be seen as the “bad boy” that doesn’t need anyone and he can’t quit.

[@mariem24601]

The writing of Jess was frustrating. When he first arrived in Star's Hollow his defensiveness and lack of trust made sense based on his history, which then got reinforced by the town's negative reaction to his attitude. But it makes no sense that even after dating Rory for months he still refuses to tell her anything- it was like Luke's advice in the boat never happened. It got old watching him lie to her over and over, constantly tell her he wanted to leave X event because it was lame or dorky, reject all sensible attempts to help him by Luke. It was unrealistic that he never moved in that aspect of his development at all or that by this point Rory wouldn't have challenged him more directly on his shutting her out. It just felt like a waste.

[@swiftie4ever2010]

jess ain’t no victim. rory was

[@zumann874]

@@swiftie4ever2010 logan aint a saint either

[@swiftie4ever2010]

@@zumann874 neither is jess or dean. so sit down

[@belmarshall9103]

This is so problematic for me. I’ve always been team Jess based on everything else he does, but consent is so important guys!! I understand he was upset, but she was saying no and he wasn’t stopping until she pushed him off of her. I am still team Jess simply because the other alternatives are Dean and Logan who are both cheaters, so no, but she honestly hasn’t had any super great boyfriends. I think a lot more people want to excuse this because they had a character that a lot of people already loved be the one to do it. When normally, it’s stuff like Nick St. Clair on Riverdale where it’s easy to hate the guy.

[@angelawilson2336]

Bella Marshall how is dean a cheater

[@payneicecold3000]

That's funny that you're team Jess when Rory and the actress who plays her have said on multiple occasions that Dean was the better boyfriend. Lmao I love how all these Team Jess people ignore all of his actions and bad treatments of Rory. Smh

[@belmarshall9103]

Angela Wilson he cheated...on his wife...with Rory

[@belmarshall9103]

payneicecold3000 dean literally cheated on his wife but sure he’s a “better bf” lmao💀 honestly, all the guys she dated were crap, jess just always seemed like the lesser of the evils to me. idrc if you or rory or alexis bledel disagrees with me, it’s my opinion🤷🏼‍♀️

[@payneicecold3000]

@@belmarshall9103 Your opinion is your opinion. But lack facts to back up your argument. I mean you can't even debate how Jess is the lesser of the two evils. I can come up with tons of examples of how Jess was a bad boyfriend. Then you strongest argument is he cheated on his wife? LMAO okay you got me there. Just kidding. I look forward to debating with REAL Jess fans and not Dean haters. Lol

[@daniellebriganti9790]

I'm sorry but Dean has a girlfriend why is worrying about Rory when he is at the party with Lindsey??? The way Dean is around Rory is creepy and OBSESSIVE!! Dude move on she doesn't want you anymore #teamjess

[@Ashely56]

Will I do think jess and rory are better together in total. in this moment Dean thought his friend and first love was being sexually assaulted. And while that not entirely what happened. That what dean though he saw so he was defending her.

[@angelawilson2336]

Dean loves rory and clearly she still has feelings because why would she not just run all the way down to the bottom of the steps if she didn't know dean would protect her ps dean is loyal all the time and is the best #Teamdean 😁😁

[@merdelune9]

If Dean hadn’t done anything, he would still be hated for not “caring and defending her.” Dean asked her what was wrong and if she was ok, and she said “yes, no, I don’t know.” He saw she was clearly upset, and Jess just walking by and saying “figures” didn’t help. Jess didn’t even tell Rory sorry or anything, he just left her crying with Dean.

[@shaharfrenkel7247]

It wasn't about being obsessive, ot was about dean understanding the situation and doing what is supposed to be done whan a girl comes runninv out of a badroom - check up on her.... There are many ways dean is obsessive, this is not one of them

[@ItsMeSarah123]

Right... cause if my ex girlfriend, a person i loved and still care for, would ran out of a room crying id just ignore her. Espacially when her boyfriend is behind her and i think he assaulted her, i do nothing and mind my own business. Honestly i would worry about anyone when they're crying. And asking if they're alright. It's sad that you and 93 other people wouldnt.

[@lexi3774]

Even though I’m team Jess, there is absolutely no excuse for the way he behaved here. He didn’t respect Rory’s boundaries. He was in the blame here, not Rory or Dean.

[@metalbox_]

Exactly. Sexual assault or not, he should've stopped when she said "wait". When I 1st watched this scene, I was so mad at Dean. But now that I've realized what Jess did, in this scenario he was unforgivable. No excuse for this scenario. I'm also team Jess, and I HATE how the writers screwed this relationship up. Like WHAT???

[@sleepycigs]

I love the “sad boy” moment and then he kisses her and she says you’re not tired of me are you- she sounds sm like Audrey hepburn there

[@firdaousmasso5077]

Aaaand shit hit the fan. And this kids was the begining of the end of Rory x Jess

[@annaheggie9053]

This is the kind of scene that I rewrite in my head

[@rratbagz4071]

ok this scene is the issue with the idea that dean is actually sam from supernatural using his brothers name, our Sammy would have destroyed jess no issue

[@reneereah9437]

GET OFF ME. I'M TRYING HAHAHAHA

[@AwkwardWhispers]

"Get off me!" "--I'm trying!" Hilarious.

[@UnAnonKnown]

God it’s concerning to see how many people defend Jess here. “He’s a teenage boy.” “He’s going through some stuff.” Bullshit. I don’t care what he’s going through. He was wrong every step of the way. He tried to push Rory to do something she clearly didn’t want. He yelled at her for not doing it. His resolve to apologize for it lasted two seconds because her ex showed concern for her. Dude - your girlfriend is racing out the door crying because of how badly you behaved - get over yourself and apologize even if her ex got to her first. And for everyone who thinks his past explains his behavior - I don’t think it’s good enough. But even if you do, at least acknowledge that a boy like this shouldn’t be in a relationship until he deals with his problems. Because women like Rory are NOT put on this earth to cure angry, toxic, irresponsible men with their love.

[@oliviahermes4646]

This is why I always liked Dean better. He always was so protective of Rory and he never pushed her meanwhile Jess over here trying to get her to lose her V at a party in someone elses bedroom. Dean got so protective over her and here it's not even because he still loves her it's because he's protective of her cause even though he is in love with her she's still his friend and he will always protect her from any bad boyfriends.

[@zamariacolon6665]

So, in this scene i totally agree Jess was in the wrong. He totally forced himself on Rory and it almost turned into SA. But overall, he’s a better boyfriend. Dean is forceful, and they’re relationship was so horrible. He definitely would’ve gotten abusive toward rory. Even in the scene where Jess came over JUST to bring some food to rory, dean got so mad and started shouting at rory.

[@zamariacolon6665]

Dean is a bad boyfriend, and as Jess matured he was and always will be the better guy for Rory.

[@Em-pl7gd]

Dean lied to Rory to get her into bed by telling her that his marriage was over and that he was going to leave his wife for her. I wouldn't consider that to be okay in any shape or form. He was extremely manipulative. Remember when he got mad in season 1 bc Rory didn’t ily right on the spot? He isn’t exactly the best either. Logan seems to be the most sane I’d say

[@rosariocasas3345]

@@zamariacolon6665 he wasn’t just mad because she brought her food, he was mad because he knew jess liked rory, and he wasn’t stupid, he also kind of knew rory liked jess, also he wanted to hang out with her that day and she told her she wanted to be alone, the he comes over and see jess in there with her, he felt as if she lied to him before the explanation

[@zamariacolon6665]

@@rosariocasas3345 Okay, I agree that jess was really trying to sabotage their relationship. But, my main point is that dean is no good for Rory. In one episode, when they were at a bookfair he was just SHOWING his boredom and he was showing that he didnt wanna be there, even when he KNEW Rory loved to read. He only cared about himself tbh, but in some situations he did deserve better.

[@samanthamccrary8946]

Even though jess did this to rory I still really liked his character and rory together.

[@pearl_lisha896]

I don’t like this scene because what happened between Rory and Jess doesn’t seem like something Jess would do. He’s always been respectful and cares for her. I feel like the writers did him dirty. If she said stop I think he would have stopped.

[@merdelune9]

Yet, in this scene what you describe that wouldn’t happen, happened.

[@audreyyy-06]

THANK YOU! I am in no way saying that what happened in this scene is ok, but I HATE the writers for doing this! I found it completely out of character for Jess. Yes he has made mistakes and has screwed up quite a bit but I cannot see him being the kinda guy to force himself onto someone, especially Rory. The writers completely ruined his character towards the end of season 3 😤

[@zumann874]

EXACTLY. THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING JESS WOULD DO IN A HUNDRED YEARS. THE WRITERS FCKED HIS CHARACTER UP FOR MORE DRAMA.

[@ameliab3]

She said Wait jess 3 times and then when she got away he was mad at her! Jess is really awful

[@deru1792]

tea

[@pennypinch3167]

In this scene yes but he has a lot going through his head and he didn’t want to break it to Rory that they weren’t going to prom. Dean is awful and could not mind his own business and assumed it was Jess

[@pennypinch3167]

Gigi Campione hey it’s a show and MY opinion let’s just not get into a fight over a KZbin comment.😋

[@pennypinch3167]

Gigi Campione it’s ok lol Incase you cant tell I’m team Jess, lol.

[@bananaboat805]

@Gigi Campione No. Initiating violence is not the sign of good morals. It is an escalation of tensions to something much worse. If he were truly trying to defend her, he would have come between them and left it at that. Both guys were in the wrong here. Jess for not listening right away and communicating, and Dean for picking the fight. If anything, being the first to throw a punch should be a warning sign of a potentially violent relationship, not an admirable trait.

[@directionergirl1]

Dean was a great friend here. Jess had it coming. Although he was sometimes annoying, he defended Rory and had good intentions (all of course before season 4).

[@Crimson28]

Normally I don’t like sucker punching but Jess had that coming for a long time

[@cyndibarron]

am i the only one that thinks this fight is funny?

[@serenitybeats1677]

Ikr it is sending me

[@vudi2103]

I love it, but man they really can't fight.

[@strictlyonvacation8860]

I love Dean. He’s the best of Rory’s bfs. He loved her, took care of her, and protected her. It’s true that at the end he didn’t belong in Rory’s world anymore. He saw that it was not the same Rory that he loved, so he left.

[@sophhhhh123]

He argued with her and hated on her Harvard goal. He cheated on his wife with Rory with no problem at all. He always picked a fight with Rory over the stupidest crap

[@tanya2345]

ummm why are yall making excuses for him forcing himself on her that's not justifiable at all 😐

[@bsofitaly]

I love you pls marry me! They're such a machistas.

[@bsofitaly]

MARRY ME I LOVE YOU

[@merdelune9]

Unfortunately, most of the GG fandom is team Jess. No matter what he does, is excused or ignored. Dean gets too much hate because they know he treated Rory better than Jess ever did, so they try to make Dean look like this evil guy to make Jess look good. Jess is defended ao much, he could’ve gotten away with murder.

[@allisongutama8110]

Dean is hot idc 😭😭😭

[@epiphany5062]

People saying Jess would have apologized if Dean didn't attack him. Funny how the only thing he said while she was crying was "Fugures" and left trying to be cool, while Dean was truly worried. Team Dean.

[@zumann874]

OH GOD. PLS STOP TRYING TO MAKE DEAN LIKE A KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR IN THIS SCENE

[@kennedyloo9870]

I’m team Jess but he was SO out of line he pissed me off. I get he was frustrated with everything going on in his life but pressuring Rory was beyond unacceptable from him. His thinking clearly was not there.

[@metalbox_]

I'm so mad at the writers for making this scenario.

[@xeesos]

i’m sorry, but jess’ anger is no justification for this scene. at all. it was sexual assault, rory told him to wait multiple times. you don’t let rage cloud your judgement when it comes to sex, that’s terrifying. dean reacted so annoyingly too. so out of character for jess i’m disappointed.

[@ar17hd]

Umm people defending Jess for sexual assault and saying Dean should mind his business need help like serious help

[@supertuna9525]

0:22 just that movement 🥺❤

[@kewuofthedownside]

Not yall acting like Dean is worse than Jess here when Jess just SA'ed Rory...

[@ivanareyyes]

god, in this chapter jess disappointed me so much, I think it was the only time he really behave like a jerk

[@Roe97]

YES! Out of everything that happened this was the one time I truly hated Jess. This was so out of character and awful.

[@AA-qb7ni]

Lmao I love the difference between Lane and Rory's boyfriends 😂😂😂😂

[@giorgiarighetti1471]

That angry "jeez" cause she didn't want to lose her virginity on some stranger's bed during a party... That jeez alone should be enough for everyone to hate this character

[@jay1don.675]

Let's be honest for a tall guy Dean can not fight

[@sachah5454]

BAHAHAHAHHA HE LANDED THREE FUCKING PUNCHES AND JESS LANDED 5

[@sirileva2268]

Your height doesn't define the way you punch

[@bestecorey3596]

although i bet sam winchester could finish jess in like 2 seconds..

[@vudi2103]

Seriously! They said he's from Chicago... Give him some hands, man.

[@scr1231]

First punch was classic.

[@merdelune9]

Yes! It was so satisfying. Jess had it long coming.

[@sachah5454]

merdelune9 no

[@merdelune9]

Sacha H yes ☺️

[@sachah5454]

merdelune9 i mean- he had it coming because he messed up, and that scene is the one scene i watched with him and was like, “mate! what are you doing?” and Rory thought he was mad at her when he really wasn’t. he was mad at the world and that he wouldn’t graduate and he had no one. however, this does NOT justify his actions, it simply explains why he did what he did.

[@daniellebriganti9790]

I bet Alexis loved getting to majority with her boyfriend at the time!

[@sharmainealag6142]

what do you mean getting to majority?

[@angrygoose5053]

If Jess had gotten to make it down the stairs and talk to Rory i truly believe they could've resolved that without the violence. The second Rory started crying you could see the remorse on Jess's face.

[@sanchitasarkar7839]

I don't know how realistic this was to Jess' character. Is assaulting Rory something that he'd do? He seemed to know her so well and respect her so much

[@itzawesomelen1002]

Dean they can never make me hate u (except when he cheats on Lindsay)

[@Reya_Sunshine]

His behavior makes so much sense when you meet Liz later.

[@joewhitehead3]

I didn’t think Liz was that bad

[@Reya_Sunshine]

@@joewhitehead3 Maybe by the time she appears in the show but I imagine she'd have had multiple relapses, broken promises to do better multiple times, to Jess and to Luke.

[@zumann874]

AND HIS DAD JIMMY TOO. GOD, HE MUST HAVE HAD AN AWFUL CHILDHOOD

[@Reya_Sunshine]

@@zumann874 ...I forgot about Jimmy bahaha

[@ErisWriter]

This was a horrible moment for Jess, but ppl acting like he was going to attack her are crazy. I’d like to emphasize this is a fictional world that I’m talking about so we are told information through other characters and subliminals and this no way is what I’m about to say equate to anything similar in real life! So - Rory does want to be intimate with Jess at this point. We know this because she talks about it with her mother, of course this doesn’t mean she is ready to go through with it whenever now. Rory wants it to go a certain way and she tells him to slow down here - which he doesn’t listen to because he’s panicking of losing everything and thinks this is his last chance. Rory gets angry at this point because she thinks he just wants to get it over with and pushes him off her. She doesn’t run away or appear scared which tells us she wasn’t fearful that he was going to hurt her but instead she was angry that he wasn’t taking her first time seriously. This is highlighted by her asking him if he really thought it was going to happen here? At that point she is not upset. What upsets her is that he starts to get upset with her himself because she is angry at him for assuming they were going to be intimate. That is when she starts crying. None of the story indicates he assaulted her because when she tells Lorelei about it she also doesn’t word it that way or else Lorelei would have done something about it for how protective she is about her daughter. I’m not saying he wasn’t an a hole in this situation because he very much was but people are stretching it by calling him a rapist. Is Dean an abuser then? Is Logan a controlling narcissist? Like cmon.

[@user-fb6cw6cb2i]

2:42 lane's boyfriends vs rory's boyfriends

[@missaxsi]

after my fair share of having a toxic boyfriend phase its easier to tell jess was so fckn toxic in every part of the relationship i don’t even remember him genuinely apologizing for once the boy was a trouble. every nice thing he ever did was because of how much rory insisted & as if he was doing her a favor. i can’t believe how many of you guys are defending him but a few years ago i’d probably find him hot and mysterious so i kind of get it but you live you learn lol

[@metalbox_]

I dont agree for every part. They actually had chemistry and could've worked together. But wtf is this scene. Come on. The writers screwed him and this whole relationship up SO badly. In this scene, he is unforgivable.

[@marquicetaylor3941]

I don’t get how any of y’all can like Jess 😭

[@gee2541]

same I've never seen this show apart from these clips but he's so bitter and negative all the time. why would anyone want to date a guy like that lol such a downer

[@mochii_]

true

[@moonbabeee]

bruh I didn’t even get to finish season 2 and I HATE JESS. I don’t get the hype with him. I’m team Tristan above all 😭

[@zumann874]

@@gee2541 watch the entire show and then you'll know why people love him.

[@zumann874]

@@moonbabeee watch the entire show and then you'll know why people love him.

[@anoushkasingh2355]

things would be so much better if jess was better at communication i was so shocked at how awful it got the last time when he just wouldn't tell rory that he got hit in the eye by a damn swan was it really THAT embarrassing of a thing that you ruin an evening with your girlfriend over it?

[@katherineripia3738]

I seriously love this channel thanks so much lol

[@daniellebriganti9790]

Dean punched Jess first he started it not Jess #TeamJess

[@jajaj111]

what

[@aditihrishi2508]

jess tried to sexually assault rory u absolute idiot

[@nathanklapsas4513]

Lane’s love interests were the best!

[@ribenariver]

Why are there two Deans at 3:04?

[@luluxx4221]

I didn’t actually realise how bad Jess was being in that scene when he assaulted her and until then I was all for the couple 😢