Rory McIlroy: LIV players shouldn't be here this week | Shane Lowry: I can't stand some of them

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Жыл бұрын

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Rory McIlroy believes that players who have signed up to the LIV tour shouldn't be allowed to compete at this week's BMW PGA Championship, with Shane Lowry sharing similar views to the Northern Irishman.
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@fenixrising75
@fenixrising75 Жыл бұрын
All due respect to Rory as a player, but he has played the PGA Tour this season & is now playing a marquee event on the DP Tour, so is also taking a spot of a player that may need prizemoney to keep his card. Just like the LIV players, he is utilising his exemption into the event & just like the LIV signed players, Rory doesn't need the money.
@shane-irish
@shane-irish Жыл бұрын
He has ever right to play here
@fenixrising75
@fenixrising75 Жыл бұрын
@@shane-irish Yes. He is exempted. Just like the other players in the field.
@mattnoonan8398
@mattnoonan8398 Жыл бұрын
Rory plays euro tour events every year and has supported it his entire career. He holds cards on both tours. These guys going to Liv who claim it's "the future of golf", yet are scrambling for world ranking points are hilarious. If it's the future, why do you care about the ranking points. Isn't that effectively the past now?
@fenixrising75
@fenixrising75 Жыл бұрын
@@mattnoonan8398 Some players can hold cards on two tours, like Rory, but other guys can't because one of the tours is the LIV tour. Looks like different sets of rules for some players. Poulter also played European tour for years, but now he is not welcome. World ranking points will come to the LIV tour. They just have to figure out the formula, just like for The Big Easy Tour, The Alps Tour, Nordic Golf League, Mena Tour, which all receive OWRP.
@mattnoonan8398
@mattnoonan8398 Жыл бұрын
@@fenixrising75 compared to all of those, Liv is exhibition golf. Fully respect their decision to go but they knew the impact before they made the decision to sell their careers for exhibition golf payday. Maybe they'll come to an agreement in future 🤷‍♂️
@seanyoyoboy
@seanyoyoboy Жыл бұрын
Lowrie's had the best take so far tbh
@ridhwaanmahomed4609
@ridhwaanmahomed4609 Жыл бұрын
rory is a hypocrite if liv is tryna buy the game of golf why has pga upped their winnings like your. 18m for fedex cup?? are pga not tryna do the same? tryna monopolise golf
@michaelhudson4080
@michaelhudson4080 Жыл бұрын
The same could be said about the American pga players going there. They took a spot from a young european player. Honestly they should be shaking all the liv players hands and thanking them. Those players joined liv and tours miraculously found millions of dollars to add to the purses and pushed rory and tiger into building a league
@padmystr
@padmystr Жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. People seem to be under the impression Rory and Tiger sat with their laptops working on their startup golf league of an evening 😂 it’s 100% a PGA concept and then they ask Rory and Tiger for a photo 😂
@MrTitleist910
@MrTitleist910 Жыл бұрын
I’m a Rory fan but this is a pga tour player playing the event so why not a LIV player??? Is he not then also taking a spot?
@michaelfagan2630
@michaelfagan2630 Жыл бұрын
Rory hasn’t taken millions off liv , they should not be allowed to come back and take a spot off someone who has played all year on the DP tour .
@craigblock138
@craigblock138 Жыл бұрын
@@padmystr …because they (LIV) are nit PGA or European or Asian tour players… they are scabs who are working to destroy golf by going to bed with a tyrant….. as for your hatred of America… king not,an would be feeding kangaroos if not for American influence….
@padmystr
@padmystr Жыл бұрын
@@craigblock138 wrong tag Craig. But if it helps I think you’re talking bollox
@WillyMcCoyBBQ
@WillyMcCoyBBQ Жыл бұрын
Then do you think that the LIV league players should get World points for their tournaments to qualify for the Open tournaments. I keep hearing the PGA boys saying they want the best players in the world. But only if they aren't in the LIV league. ALL Pro Golfers play for money and ALL hope to get trophies and titles..... But money is first.
@rmmst49
@rmmst49 Жыл бұрын
no wrp’s for livers. it’s not competitive golf, by definition
@si777
@si777 Жыл бұрын
@@rmmst49 I can add to that with the rumour of the contract situation. For example, Dustin Johnson signed for 125million. Now this is a rumour so I wouldn't quote me on this, but everything Dustin wins he doesn't actually get it until they he has won what his contract is worth. So he won the other day knocking it down to 121million. It was basically a up front payment for his future earnings. Now if the above is true, Then it really isn't that competitive. It's a locked in tour for most of the players playing. They won't get relegated to another tour or have to go into a qualifying situation to play in the next event. If no consequences to playing bad then what sort of professional sport is that. It's a bit like what the Super League in football tried to create, Locking in all the top teams.
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 Жыл бұрын
They are hypocrites....the corrupt OWGR board won't give LIV ranking points....
@fenixrising75
@fenixrising75 Жыл бұрын
@@rmmst49 Why not? Yes, they are paid up front to sign up, but they are also playing for a tiered prize money breakdown each tournament. If it's the 54 holes you're referring to, there are already tours running that receive OWR points for 54 hole events.
@decentcomment9447
@decentcomment9447 Жыл бұрын
@@fenixrising75 I think it’s probably the no cut that’s the issue and no qualification process
@balance3201
@balance3201 Жыл бұрын
all backfiring now with the double standards btw Poulter n Westwood have done more for the European tour than a lot of the field. Show them some respect.
@balance3201
@balance3201 Жыл бұрын
@Jackie Jay yes things are very different watch what will happen later. Money talks.
@dalerichardson8247
@dalerichardson8247 Жыл бұрын
Whose up for a liv vs the rest Ryder cup style event? Imagine the passion/rivalry in that!
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 Жыл бұрын
So Lowry wants to play on two tours but LIV players can't...EPIC hypocrisy
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 Жыл бұрын
@Jackie Jay You obviously think your opinion counts...
@padmystr
@padmystr Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Rory should turn up for the Irish open… If only he weren’t chasing millions to lift the prestigious and historic FedEx Cup on the PGA tour 😂
@SiLoMixMaster
@SiLoMixMaster Жыл бұрын
He's a great golfer but a total hypocrite.
@padmystr
@padmystr Жыл бұрын
@@SiLoMixMaster agreed. IMO he’s the best talent in the world and one of my favourite players to watch. Unfortunately he’s not the brightest lad. Long history of jumping the gun and shitting on things he has no prior experience of like the Ryder Cup, the Olympics, now LIV. Americans LOVE him cos he smiles and gives in-depth interviews but to me a lot of what he says reminds me of the expression “Eloquence does not equal intelligence”.
@BOO66IOU
@BOO66IOU Жыл бұрын
Bang on we haven't had top European players supporting the euro tour since the days of seve faldo Langer etc it was a strong tour back then BC of those guys.
@craigb2644
@craigb2644 Жыл бұрын
Yeah mate I'm a big fan of Rory but after buying my Scottish open ticket in advance was disappointed he didn't play. Must have been the same for yous over in the Emerald Isle when he didn't play in the Irish.
@tomasfm3124
@tomasfm3124 Жыл бұрын
I have always been a fan of Rory the golfer. but never a fan of Rory the Man . How can we forget when .he wouldn't atsept and let the tricolor be walked on after winning the US open ...
@Unshou
@Unshou Жыл бұрын
Lowry - lol. "I don't mind the players that I like playing here but I don't want the players I can't stand playing here". Wouldn't that be the same all the time - regardless of which tour they played on?😂
@blakeanderson4750
@blakeanderson4750 Жыл бұрын
That's not what he said. He said there are players that he can't stand being here not that he can't stand them. Mainly the guys who have never played in the European tour or supported it before but now wanna play it because it's the only way to get world ranking points. That's hypocritical
@colmhealy8173
@colmhealy8173 Жыл бұрын
That is not what he said, and he spoke very clearly...
@markpass4215
@markpass4215 Жыл бұрын
Exactly..you and Sky have completely misquoted him..he didn’t say there are players he can’t stand that are playing
@Unshou
@Unshou Жыл бұрын
@@blakeanderson4750 How's the hypocritical? If the only way they can currently get world ranking points is to play on the DP world tour, then why shouldn't they play? It would be hypocritical if said players (Gooch, Ancer, etc) said that they were going to support the DP world tour.
@Unshou
@Unshou Жыл бұрын
@@markpass4215 Fair point. Listened to it again and I did misquote.
@jptvi1
@jptvi1 Жыл бұрын
Question, is Rory playing both the PGA tour and The DP when he feels like it any different? How many journeymen or DP regulars are missing out on spots and money to make way for Rory and Billy etc?
@VG32123
@VG32123 Жыл бұрын
Rory's a member of both Tours.
@alexanderjefferies7740
@alexanderjefferies7740 Жыл бұрын
@@VG32123 he just means that despite being a member of both, Rory has a more PGA tour-based schedule as opposed to an equal number of events on both the PGA and DP
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 Жыл бұрын
They are total HYPOCRITES
@razorback_king
@razorback_king Жыл бұрын
@@pauljcross2289 couldn’t agree more!!!
@fenixrising75
@fenixrising75 Жыл бұрын
@@VG32123 There would be nothing stopping the players signed with LIV to play either The PGA or DP tours as dual members, too. They could easily play the minimum events required by LIV & either the PGA or DP tours.
@keith1817
@keith1817 Жыл бұрын
So Rory wins $18m at the pga tour championship, which is a Different tour but then comes across to the European tour to it's flagship tournament. I'm confused how is that any different to what the Liv players like westy/poulter who have played more events than most on the European tour.
@Thegov51
@Thegov51 Жыл бұрын
Liv players are scum they chose to leave pga and European tour shouldn’t be allowed
@macurlyfries
@macurlyfries Жыл бұрын
Euro tour is affiliated with pga num nuts
@keith1817
@keith1817 Жыл бұрын
@@macurlyfries I'm quite aware of that. It's still a different tour though. You obviously don't get the irony of it 🙄
@decentcomment9447
@decentcomment9447 Жыл бұрын
@@keith1817 there’s no irony. None at all
@ScottLaRue
@ScottLaRue Жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Rory is on the PGATour and is coming to this event and taking a spot from someone on the DPTour, or am I missing somethkng.
@steveg209
@steveg209 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he’s also a member of the DP World Tour, in good standing on both tours.
@davidfinn9828
@davidfinn9828 Жыл бұрын
Lost all respect for rory , 😪 and shane too , its grand for them to be members of 2 tours but dj , deshambo, keepa cant be , hippicrotes in my eyes
@sidneygreen9120
@sidneygreen9120 Жыл бұрын
Excellent point, is Dan gavins playing? 🤔
@darthfader7414
@darthfader7414 Жыл бұрын
Are you missing something?…..Probably the fact that Rory is an integral part of this tour & has been for many years.
@davidfinn9828
@davidfinn9828 Жыл бұрын
@@darthfader7414 o yea so commited to the dp tour that he couldent be bothered to play in the Irish open , not that he wasent in ireland that week , after all he played in jp 's event on the monday 🤔wonder how much apperance €€ he was payed
@ReenactionMan
@ReenactionMan Жыл бұрын
Absolute state of these spoiled babies
@davidglendinning8457
@davidglendinning8457 Жыл бұрын
Billy Horschel 6 total non major, wgc or co-sanctioned event. Way to go supporting the tour Billy
@nigelhawkins3162
@nigelhawkins3162 Жыл бұрын
Billy who ? massive beneficiary of LIV and should be grateful. Never qualifies for Ryder Cup and now has a great chance to play. Would never have got a pick for Presidents Cup (never qualifies himself) if DJ, Reed, Gooch, Kopeka, Bryson where available as most of them would get the nod over Billy (always has a lot to say like Eddie Pep Nobody) Nobody
@foodreacts2
@foodreacts2 Жыл бұрын
Billy is a goat
@jd9799
@jd9799 Жыл бұрын
So Rory was put through his amateur career by the GUI yet when it came time to represent Ireland in Olympics, he decided not to originally. He then abandons the European tour to go to the pga for the money, he's a complete hypocrite.
@unshavengamer5542
@unshavengamer5542 Жыл бұрын
He went to the better tour
@worldgonecrazy
@worldgonecrazy Жыл бұрын
@@unshavengamer5542 he went for bigger money...
@Rocky0Road
@Rocky0Road Жыл бұрын
Spot on,
@Rocky0Road
@Rocky0Road Жыл бұрын
@@unshavengamer5542 for da 💵 💲 🤑 💸 💴
@integralintervention6323
@integralintervention6323 Жыл бұрын
@@unshavengamer5542 that's what happened to the golfers who joined LIV. Went to the better tour.
@JohnNiemsMusic
@JohnNiemsMusic Жыл бұрын
Well I can VOICE my opinion too RORY! I love the LIV TOUR and the coverage on YOU TUBE HERE is so much more fun to watch with NO COMMERCIALS than the PGA! Last weeks tournament with DJ winning was fantastic and look at the players as they made some fabulous shots all day!~
@JohnNiemsMusic
@JohnNiemsMusic Жыл бұрын
@@vivalarocka7384 Obviously you did not watch it then!
@worldgonecrazy
@worldgonecrazy Жыл бұрын
@@vivalarocka7384 so you'd support tiger and Rorys little venture if it happens I suppose?
@erikscott4791
@erikscott4791 Жыл бұрын
@@vivalarocka7384 lmao could you be any more of a close minded “fan” havnt even watched it and hate on it but hey if Tiger says its cool then its cool…
@keithskelton5596
@keithskelton5596 Жыл бұрын
Spot on Bring in the younger players As Gary Player pointed out ✌🏼🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@dbo4506
@dbo4506 Жыл бұрын
The irony of Rory’s point while he’s playing a DP tour event is clearly lost on him. Taking one of those spots he’s talking about.
@marchmcmadness7134
@marchmcmadness7134 Жыл бұрын
He's a prick mate. I cannot stand the bloke.
@deanfarrand9545
@deanfarrand9545 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Clearly you missed it. No irony here.
@Retiredroamers
@Retiredroamers Жыл бұрын
He bailed from the European PGA for more money on the US PGA
@bacster_
@bacster_ Жыл бұрын
No man has the right to tell another man how to make a living.
@jakecvma8571
@jakecvma8571 Жыл бұрын
Man sure hope one those liv golf players win ,
@jakecvma8571
@jakecvma8571 Жыл бұрын
@Jackie Jay isn't that what the PGA player's did ? Take spots from DP player's ? Took the money right out thier mouths ? lol
@danconklin9377
@danconklin9377 Жыл бұрын
losing respect for a man I really respected.
@brianhebb5711
@brianhebb5711 Жыл бұрын
How about the guys that are playing actually earned a spot to be there!
@stevenjenkins3882
@stevenjenkins3882 Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@cougar2013
@cougar2013 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but uh “sports washing” or something. Yeah, that’s it. My low info fake outrage means that nobody earned anything if my feelings get hurt!
@cougar2013
@cougar2013 Жыл бұрын
@Pel Gram I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what’s wrong with that. Why is everyone so upset that people with tons of money are investing in sport?
@cougar2013
@cougar2013 Жыл бұрын
@Pel Gram ok, but what are you worried about? So what if they are putting money into sports.
@cougar2013
@cougar2013 Жыл бұрын
@Pel Gram I’m asking simple questions, and apparently not getting any answers. That’s the opposite of what someone would do if they simply trusted authority. I’m just trying to get you to articulate why you feel the way you do.
@WinstonSmith24
@WinstonSmith24 Жыл бұрын
How does Billy Horschel feel about a player who’s never played the Shell Houston Open playing it as a last ditch effort to get into the Masters, or a player who’s never played the John Deere Classic using it as a last ditch effort to get into the Open Championship?
@Nickhilton90
@Nickhilton90 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, hes taking a place away from a hard working dp tour pro who deserves to get into the big money events. im a fan of the dp tour and watch it regulary and it annoys me all these players come back for the big purse events
@nigelhawkins3162
@nigelhawkins3162 Жыл бұрын
@@Nickhilton90 You can only be a big tournament if you have the best players - I want all the best players which includes LIV as would they get sell out events if no one knows the players. The reason no one watches the challenge tour has nothing to do with whether they are hard working or nice blokes.
@nceebee6859
@nceebee6859 Жыл бұрын
@@Nickhilton90 Hes the defending champion?
@shane-irish
@shane-irish Жыл бұрын
He won last year he has every right to be here
@stevec8352
@stevec8352 Жыл бұрын
@@nceebee6859 How about last year? Why did he play then? He's a hypocrite, calling out players who played more tournaments in the DPWT than him.
@robertchaplin
@robertchaplin Жыл бұрын
There seems to be a lot of vested interests currently operating here that are making a lot of noise to protect those interests. Golf is a professional sport and indeed a business and as such should be totally open to all and not a chosen few. Ability should be the determining factor, people just want to see the best golf available and it is entertainment all said and done. Any chosen vehicle or organization involved if more than one, is in competition with the other/s and this can only be a plus for the very game itself.
@Ligerpride
@Ligerpride Жыл бұрын
McIlroy signed an enormous contract with Nike. Let's not pretend there's no financial incentive in his head. Why is McIlroy playing in this tournament but not the Irish Open....or the Andalucia Masters.....or the Italian Open? McIlroy left the European tour to play in the States.
@SuziesAshes10
@SuziesAshes10 Жыл бұрын
Because thats where the best play and hes the best and the best get massive contracts from the likes of Nike.Michael Jordan, Tiger etc.It's how it is.LIV is a circus, nothing to like about it.Its cheap.
@Ligerpride
@Ligerpride Жыл бұрын
@@SuziesAshes10 the Open Champion plays on the LIV tour.
@SuziesAshes10
@SuziesAshes10 Жыл бұрын
@@Ligerpride You are right he does.
@Ligerpride
@Ligerpride Жыл бұрын
@Jackie Jay maybe so
@jamesnoonan9302
@jamesnoonan9302 Жыл бұрын
He’s playing the premier events with the best fields. If you’ve won a US open by 10 strokes or something, how pumped up can you really be playing a smaller event?
@vertstang123
@vertstang123 Жыл бұрын
Rory has become the biggest Karen in sport. Why is he there this week? Aren't there players that need it more than him? He just won 18 million, shouldn't he give up his spot?
@mwood7864
@mwood7864 Жыл бұрын
@Jackie Jay what does Sergio have to do with anything?
@johnlangford6230
@johnlangford6230 Жыл бұрын
As a fan I want to see the biggest stars in golf compete..
@stevenjenkins3882
@stevenjenkins3882 Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@pigs6486
@pigs6486 Жыл бұрын
Well Shane Lowery is a coward.
@henrymcvey6538
@henrymcvey6538 Жыл бұрын
As someone who wants presumably to tolerate LIV you’re no fan in my view! They should be only allowed to play LIV events. They took the money after all.
@johnlangford6230
@johnlangford6230 Жыл бұрын
@@henrymcvey6538 why wouldnt I tolerate liv?? Who cares if they took the money..look how the pga doubled and tripled payouts now...everyone on pga tour should send a thank you basket to Phil and say than you
@erikscott4791
@erikscott4791 Жыл бұрын
@@henrymcvey6538 as someone who thinks they dictate what constitutes a golf fan and that you can only be a fan of a certain organization I would say you are no golf fan. You are simply just a fan of the PGA, sad to be a fan of an organization and not of the sport that grew that organization. Its ok to make some money but not as much as the PGA execs, what a shitty argument.
@Kevin-l4
@Kevin-l4 Жыл бұрын
PGAT posterboy trying to be 2nd coming of Seve . He is a hypocrite . Seve would be ashamed of him . He forgets he is playing on 2 tours or wherever who will pay him . Make no mistake Rory n his PGA friends are only interested in there own bank balance . Shane shut up n play golf .
@grahamstuart9432
@grahamstuart9432 Жыл бұрын
I have pretty much stopped watching PGA altogether and I'm watching Liv. It is so much more fun as a spectator. And the longer this goes on the more the PGA looks like a winning bunch of elites . I think the best thing the PGA players could possibly do is stop talking about Liv. Play golf the period plague off and be silent. Wait till this all shakes out because this is not looking good on you
@paulwinsor4599
@paulwinsor4599 Жыл бұрын
If the grown ups don’t sort this out sharpish the only thing to suffer will be the very fabric of the game we all love.
@bobstirling6885
@bobstirling6885 Жыл бұрын
Everybody has an opinion, but the facts currently are that they can play....so put up and get on with the game.
@funkieblue
@funkieblue Жыл бұрын
Rory's attitude towards these players is asinine. He should keep his mouth shut.
@NemoArtics
@NemoArtics Жыл бұрын
come on liv golf! win one for the us! viewership will b high thanks to liv players.
@jsiemering68
@jsiemering68 Жыл бұрын
Didn't all of the European Tour players move to the PGA Tour for more money. Why are they mad at the LIV Tour players for doing the same? PGA Tour players have better benefits because of the LIV Tour yet are still mad at them.
@mikejones-go8vz
@mikejones-go8vz Жыл бұрын
Stronger competition 🤔
@joannenoakes8288
@joannenoakes8288 Жыл бұрын
PGA doesn't like competition...the money men have taken over...and you KNOW who they are!
@Ackermannized
@Ackermannized Жыл бұрын
Congratulations Rory you have become the most unlikable guy in golf.
@123rfd1
@123rfd1 Жыл бұрын
Amongst whom? He’s probably the biggest pull in world golf at the moment. Who doesn’t like him, non-golfers?
@doug8515
@doug8515 Жыл бұрын
@@123rfd1 Not anymore, he plays in America. LIV golfers will be watched in events all around the world, growing the game, not trying to prevent it evolve.
@Ackermannized
@Ackermannized Жыл бұрын
@@123rfd1 amongst me for one. Biggest pull for some biggest self righteous yap for others
@allanbrunelle
@allanbrunelle Жыл бұрын
The hypocrisy is laughable. Like actually laughable. What are they afraid of honestly? Are they afraid LIV players will win tournaments and subsequently the LIV tour will earn world golf ranking points? I sure think so
@keunpruitt7509
@keunpruitt7509 Жыл бұрын
Rory is woke AF
@tko9624
@tko9624 Жыл бұрын
Hey Rory, You shouldn't be there either. You are taking someone else spot.
@SoftSpeakin6
@SoftSpeakin6 Жыл бұрын
Rory and Shane should play the hero Indian open, Czech open, and those unheard of tournaments in Belgium , Denmark, Finland etc
@worldgonecrazy
@worldgonecrazy Жыл бұрын
Now your talking...let's see their "support for the tour" then...
@tonytitado6478
@tonytitado6478 Жыл бұрын
Everytime i see these interviews, i support LIV GOLF even more. I'm sure i'm not the only one. I wonder what they'll say if a LIV player wins?
@davidrhodes5245
@davidrhodes5245 Жыл бұрын
And every time i see these interviews, i dislike the LIV players even more. Works both ways 😂
@lazerpug4416
@lazerpug4416 Жыл бұрын
The greatest player of all time doesn’t support it!!
@lungchan1729
@lungchan1729 Жыл бұрын
you are the only one
@canefan17
@canefan17 Жыл бұрын
@@lungchan1729 no he’s not lol
@Rocky0Road
@Rocky0Road Жыл бұрын
Zip it rory
@JJG86
@JJG86 Жыл бұрын
I knew Rory was a prick, did not know Lowry was as well. It must be an Irish thing.
@ismaelzavala7685
@ismaelzavala7685 Жыл бұрын
Rory making a ton of money on the pga and even making his own virtual thing now saying players from a diff league shouldn’t be playing a dp event is an absolute joke. Why is he so concerned about how much money they have. Maybe tiger shouldn’t take a spot in another tournament since he’s made so much money too then? Hypocrite
@NA-bn9er
@NA-bn9er Жыл бұрын
It's not about how much they're getting paid. It's WHO they're playing for. Pretty obvious.
@doug8515
@doug8515 Жыл бұрын
@@NA-bn9er So what do you think of the Aramco Womens Tour? Or those 24 or so saudi backed sponsors financing the PGA tour? Etc Etc. The hypocrisy is staggering, don't fall for the divisive baiting by the media, or those 'Rory' types sent out to create division where none existed before.
@aidangriffiths5075
@aidangriffiths5075 Жыл бұрын
They chose to go to liv, and the dp world tour and the pga tour have had a cross tour partnership for 40 years. That's why
@NA-bn9er
@NA-bn9er Жыл бұрын
@@doug8515 LIV is primarily and solely funded by the Saudis. The players who signed with LIV literally took millions from a genocidal government.
@bobbys4327
@bobbys4327 Жыл бұрын
@@NA-bn9er yeah, like everyone is not getting $$$ from the Saudis. Saudi money runs deep in all these businesses.
@williamshultz4620
@williamshultz4620 Жыл бұрын
Rory I've been a fan of yours since you won your first event. I think you need to just focus on how to hole putts in key situations instead of worrying about what other guys are doing. Maybe you'll win more majors again. IT'S GOING ON 9 YEARS NOW!!!
@parkeranderson7599
@parkeranderson7599 Жыл бұрын
I think the whole 9 years thing is part of what's making Rory act like such a... well act the way he's acting lately: For all these years he has been chasing that dragon of returning to be "the best of the best", and now the "best of the best" is more complicated. I think he's worried he missed the boat to reclaim his spot at the true top, Liv has thrown a wrench in it. It's an ego thing really.
@oso77373
@oso77373 Жыл бұрын
I think we do another cup. Like PGA vs LIV like they do the rhyder cup
@alexsamain812
@alexsamain812 Жыл бұрын
Why are they so mad ? Blame the DP Tour. Category 1 exemption is top 60 in the OWGR so why wouldnt that LIV guys play this if given that opportunity to make more money. Rory just made $18 mil he doesn't need to be there
@thomas2223
@thomas2223 Жыл бұрын
But that's the difference, Rory isn't there for the money as opposed to most of these LIV golfers, the ones who went are highlighted as the money grabbers whilst anyone who stays loyal to the PGA e.g. Rory shows their priorities are straight
@johnr9528
@johnr9528 Жыл бұрын
Never realized that these pro golfers were so whiny. Damn.
@davidmcmanus2464
@davidmcmanus2464 Жыл бұрын
I thought LIV had their own Tour and events?
@Trill_Tre
@Trill_Tre Жыл бұрын
It's called ranking points...
@jhat74
@jhat74 Жыл бұрын
It’s called being an independent contractor and playing anywhere you are able.
@erikscott4791
@erikscott4791 Жыл бұрын
Doesnt the PGA also have their own tour and events? Must have another hypocritical “I know all about golf and it’s tradition” “fan” on our hands.
@brianb1217
@brianb1217 Жыл бұрын
This is why ppl hate the PGA
@rickynicol7205
@rickynicol7205 Жыл бұрын
Well said both
@davewinter1350
@davewinter1350 Жыл бұрын
Well said gentlemen couldn’t of put it better myself and what’s going to happen to the Ryder Cup ….
@paulomontero12
@paulomontero12 Жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with competition? PGA doesn’t own the golf world.
@brianhebb5711
@brianhebb5711 Жыл бұрын
Oh, so its a closed tournament!
@ianewart2695
@ianewart2695 Жыл бұрын
Golfing prostitutes should stay in the brothel.
@motty147
@motty147 Жыл бұрын
I don't think any of them would mess with Shane after he's had a few Guinness's anyway.
@johnburnett3942
@johnburnett3942 Жыл бұрын
Rory why are you there. I didn't see you in Switzerland.
@enoch6450
@enoch6450 Жыл бұрын
This whole situation is a joke. Any player should be allowed to play any tournament. The issue is the PGA Tour....
@simonrogers9101
@simonrogers9101 11 ай бұрын
Money changes everything
@2sqnbandit379
@2sqnbandit379 5 ай бұрын
LIV are only doing what pga did to the European tour.
@alarmservicepros
@alarmservicepros Жыл бұрын
Say's the guy that has Millions in sponsor money.
@maurecara6908
@maurecara6908 Жыл бұрын
Priority explained it very well, I think the answer is on the course, to ensure none of them win
@scoopmendenhall1008
@scoopmendenhall1008 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with that
@chadillac1127
@chadillac1127 Жыл бұрын
Honest question… Can someone explain to me why players can play on any other tour (ie asian tour, European tour etc) and not be chastised but Liv players are?
@jamespeters7775
@jamespeters7775 Жыл бұрын
The argument is that LIV is not so much a tour but a sovereign wealth fund throwing money at famous players to try and promote the country’s new tourism play whilst washing over their human rights issues. Other tours have more structure in terms of qualifying, routes for young and amateur players, and collectively provide points to events such as majors and Ryder cup.
@dalehurrell1961
@dalehurrell1961 Жыл бұрын
Because all those tours are ‘sanctioned’ - in other words ‘controlled’ by the PGA. LIV golf is the only tour not controlled by the PGA. The PGA is using the Saudi human rights record as a negative when most sponsors of the PGA do big business with the Saudis. Especially the women’s tour. China has a worse human rights record but their golfers are welcomed! It’s all a power struggle and messy.
@nceebee6859
@nceebee6859 Жыл бұрын
@@jamespeters7775 That's exactly what it is.
@chadillac1127
@chadillac1127 Жыл бұрын
@@jamespeters7775 I see what you’re saying but all of that sounds more philosophical.
@chadillac1127
@chadillac1127 Жыл бұрын
@@dalehurrell1961 if I’m being honest it kind of sounds like people are just getting butt hurt over where the money is coming from when behind the scenes they’re all pretty much hypocrites. Thanks for your input!
@abelendecody1
@abelendecody1 Жыл бұрын
Rory just saying this so there’s less competition for him now so he can win more stuff and he doesn’t want to compete with the guys that beat him all the time
@oregonmines4919
@oregonmines4919 Жыл бұрын
I'd be careful if I was these guys. It mite look awful funny in the future when they are signing on with liv golf and someone plays these interviews back to them.
@johnnypolo1983
@johnnypolo1983 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with Rory's "they shouldn't be here" stance. Or Shane saying "they don't deserve to be here." They may not like that they're there (which they obviously don't), but being in the top-60 in the OWGR is a qualification to get into this tournament. If they're in the top-60, then it is what it is. Now, if that court ruling next year changes things and LIV guys aren't allowed in DP World Tour events, that's a different story. But for now, Shane and Rory gotta live with it.
@okdude7366
@okdude7366 Жыл бұрын
yeah, for real. buy the PGA Tour out with blood money from Saudi Arabia. Hell yeah.
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 Жыл бұрын
@@okdude7366 How is Saudi money blood money care to explain?
@davidchipman7612
@davidchipman7612 Жыл бұрын
And neither should you Rory
@fio3630
@fio3630 Жыл бұрын
You think the the LIV give a crap about Rory , enough of the crying about LIV.
@mycoshe
@mycoshe Жыл бұрын
At this point I'm getting tired of Rory and his constant whinging about LIV golf players.
@bennyb44875
@bennyb44875 Жыл бұрын
"We should be talking about the BMW and Wentworth and how great they are, but instead..." .... Hey Shane, you are one of my favorites to have ever won the Open...start acting like an Open champ and talk about whatever you want and DONT fall victim to the vile media.
@frankmcnally01
@frankmcnally01 Жыл бұрын
100% correct
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 Жыл бұрын
The tour players seem to be the ones who want to talk about LIV players and who much they hate them...
@davidmilka3909
@davidmilka3909 Жыл бұрын
The media is where all the storms originate. When they grow and grow they effect everyone first the players . By there comments. Then the patrons. By there thought and comments. The looser is the game of golf, And the p g a.
@mikefry5704
@mikefry5704 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@JaguarNuts
@JaguarNuts Жыл бұрын
take it up with the league for allowing them to play, dont blame the players. im deeply disappointed at these 2
@deebee7607
@deebee7607 Жыл бұрын
lots of growing up to do. all golfers are golfers.. play good golf and respect all good players....
@milly7205
@milly7205 Жыл бұрын
Remember you left European tour for the big money of the US tour. My eyes no difference.
@sethjohnson4845
@sethjohnson4845 Жыл бұрын
Your eyes gloss over a lot of horrible little details.
@jayr3635
@jayr3635 Жыл бұрын
That's maybe one of the worst comparisons I've ever heard!
@thewi7ard
@thewi7ard Жыл бұрын
Has Rory been asked if he believes LIV players should be receiving world ranking points?
@nceebee6859
@nceebee6859 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, rather then drawing your own conclusions, pay close attention to the comments. This is the inner circle. They're comments are more relevant then anyones. Same from the other side.
@TheFoxpitt
@TheFoxpitt Жыл бұрын
Wow! So says the man who plays how many DP World Tour events during the Summer? McIlroy's brain is missing, again! For the umpteenth time. I wonder if he still doesn't think The Open should go to Muirfield? Probably given that that's the wrong answer too. Well done Sky Sports Golf for being the media vehicle for Jay Monaghan too. Talk about trying to protect your own product, this channel is a master. The Saudi Arabians will win, everyone knows this, if you're paying attention.... BTW, these "people" McIlroy talks about are guys like Poulter, Westwood, Stenson, Garcia, Kaymer... remember them, the guys who helped you win Ryder Cups, carrying you along the way. Apart from no brain, he has a short memory too..
@johnmurray5840
@johnmurray5840 Жыл бұрын
just that it isn’t an alliance with the DP tour…DP tour just a feeder tour for the PGA…hopefully the way it seems I hope they jump in with LIv to stop the monopoly of the PGA tour…how is giving the best 10 players next year a card on the monopoly tour…well done the no idea Canadian running our DP tour…well done..great bit of business…yes for the monopoly tour certainly not the dying DP tour..hope you are are proud of yourself…. fine play the PGA tour but then he has too much to say about the tour he deserted to play on another tour…he needs to try and keep his own opinions to himself when he has no interest to a tour he left to get more money..and mclroy is openly promoting the PGA tour on a flagship DP tour event and saying the best players play on the PGA tour…unbelievable
@bknoxx
@bknoxx Жыл бұрын
I agree
@simpedros4766
@simpedros4766 Жыл бұрын
Rory makes no sense. The liv players are playing cus they want to win . But then he’s complaining they only play for money now . Make your mind up. I don’t see how where people play has anything to do with anyone else .
@jacobr4558
@jacobr4558 Жыл бұрын
So what if somebody takes another person's spot? Are we going to act like these guys actually care about each other? Or they care about each other's careers or their earnings. Come on man.
@mikhailov08
@mikhailov08 Жыл бұрын
🤣 these guy's crack me up, Liv being disruptive 🤣 classic stuff
@wheelieking3976
@wheelieking3976 Жыл бұрын
Good to see big Darren carrying Shane’s bag.
@ChapterMasterAres
@ChapterMasterAres Жыл бұрын
Go on the boys
@davidevans1203
@davidevans1203 Жыл бұрын
Says McIlroy who's just won $18m on another tour, what an hypercrite.
@mickytan6206
@mickytan6206 Жыл бұрын
Plenty of sour grapes around.
@pecky7334
@pecky7334 Жыл бұрын
Praying for Lee Westwood to win. Looks on top form. Spent his whole career supporting the European tour.
@lucaswheeler5586
@lucaswheeler5586 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being so pathetic you pray for a golfer you don't know personally to win a tournament lol
@jdietzVispop
@jdietzVispop Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Shut this guy up with the game play if the LIV players!
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 Жыл бұрын
great, but what a terrible choke in Boston....can't hit a green from 100yds
@phillnavin1212
@phillnavin1212 Жыл бұрын
@@pauljcross2289 really.
@roberttilton7927
@roberttilton7927 Жыл бұрын
Wasted prayers for Westwood as he's done.
@IrishSpursFan
@IrishSpursFan Жыл бұрын
"their best days are behind them" says Rors just checked a LIV golfer won the PGA :)
@Cutlerypotato
@Cutlerypotato Жыл бұрын
Rory thinks he's the Prince of golf but he didn't hesitate to ditch the European tour for the PGA when it suited him
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 Жыл бұрын
EPIC HYPOCRITE
@worldgonecrazy
@worldgonecrazy Жыл бұрын
💯 correct and he swans in when it suits him ...keeping other dp tour players from a spot...the man is clearly delusional, tbh I wish he'd stfu about liv, everytime he opens his mouth about it ...abosolute garbage
@Ligerpride
@Ligerpride Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@davino108
@davino108 Жыл бұрын
Rory should be the PGA spokesperson...
@restevotait6061
@restevotait6061 Жыл бұрын
Can't they just all get along.
@2Thes22
@2Thes22 Жыл бұрын
LIV has as much right to be there as Rory and other primarily PGA players. The truth is, the stronger the field and more ranking points and the more attractive TV and attendance.
@wildebeest88
@wildebeest88 Жыл бұрын
I feel for a player like Alfredo Garcia, a member on DP tour, busted his ball all year was kicked out because some LIV players who never supported the DP tour want to play. Yet their only intention is to get points for the majors. I can't see how golf benefits as they claim.
@mineshjogia9945
@mineshjogia9945 Жыл бұрын
Which LIV guy didn't qualify and took his place? Can you provide specifics? I am certain if i was a LIV guy i can't just rock up at Wentworth and just play and have some DPWT guy kicked out. That is not how that works.
@wildebeest88
@wildebeest88 Жыл бұрын
@@mineshjogia9945 players like Kokrak, Gooch & Na never supported the DP tour and didnt cross the Atlantic. In this case, the BMW championship is a co-sanctioned PGA tour event. Subsequently, only now as LIV members, to maintain their higher rankings than Alfredo & gain more points they were automatically allowed to play. Thus pushing Alfredo down the line to be omitted.
@mineshjogia9945
@mineshjogia9945 Жыл бұрын
@@wildebeest88 Again buddy you're wrong. Tell me which player of the 15 from LIV hasn't qualified or is exempt? If you can name me just one of the 15 and present how they are not qualified or exempt based on DPWT rules i'll give you a thousand bucks. P.S i never said anything about who has supported what. So if you want to talk about that separately we can as well, as we can pick many out of that field and many are PGAT puppets and European who i could easily bring up and shut down your arguments about who supported the DPWT. Don't open that can of worms. And yes every knows they are there for OWGR points, well done captain obvious. Every player chases OWGR points, always has. As for Alfredo, he is not more qualified or exempt than any of the 100+ who are qualified to play the event. Sorry bud, but Alfredo is just not good enough, if he was, he would have qualified for it. I'll wait patiently on the above though, name me one, show me how, and tell me who's place he took. Bet you can't.
@wildebeest88
@wildebeest88 Жыл бұрын
@@mineshjogia9945 you sound like a LIV stooge.
@georgiosmtl
@georgiosmtl Жыл бұрын
Go cry with Rory. Maybe you can hold his sack for him
@CamMacMastermusic
@CamMacMastermusic Жыл бұрын
Hypocrites 😂 The lot of them ! Only the DP players should be there … PERIOD.
@jhat74
@jhat74 Жыл бұрын
At least we know that PGA players aren’t concerned about playing against the best. Basically their jealous that the entire golf world hasn’t banned the Liv golfers from all non-Liv events… proving Liv golfers are smarter than the rest of them.
@ns281
@ns281 Жыл бұрын
I remember Mcllroy golfing with trumpSCvM at trumpSCvM golf resort. We patriots don't forget Mcllroy!
@C.J.M..
@C.J.M.. Жыл бұрын
Who would have thought Rory could be such a bad loser.
@royahoy8655
@royahoy8655 Жыл бұрын
Loser? How?
@mikeygee3550
@mikeygee3550 Жыл бұрын
What has he lost?
@SethMacLeod95
@SethMacLeod95 Жыл бұрын
Bad loser? Lolol what are you talking about
@2Thes22
@2Thes22 Жыл бұрын
LIV players are playing to get ranking points which is controlled by the PGA Tour cartel. This will be sorted out in the court. In a few weeks LIV will have as good fields as any non major PGA Tour event - they probably do already considering that LIV players play all LIV events and PGA players are spread out over many tournaments.
@Cornwall1888
@Cornwall1888 Жыл бұрын
They definitely don’t have a better field than most pga tour events, the players is the strongest field in golf for a start, the fedex cup playoffs obviously have a stronger field, the Scottish open, the Phoenix open, the memorial, the match play, the Arnold palmer invitational.. the vast majority of pga events are much stronger and from 2023 the top 20 have agreed to play 20 events a year together The only pga events that liv are stronger than are the ones the week of or before a major
@VG32123
@VG32123 Жыл бұрын
Hey , I like the LIV golf but there's only 48 players. If you've signed a contract you HAVE to play all the events and there's only 8 this year. Which is great I guess as they all wanted to play less golf.😉
@tkboylan3223
@tkboylan3223 Жыл бұрын
Way to go Shane.......
@pigs6486
@pigs6486 Жыл бұрын
Ya what a coward! Way to go!
@azapro911
@azapro911 Жыл бұрын
Lectures in loyalty from the guy who held the European Tour hostage three years ago, you couldn't make it up.
@doomdawgwr
@doomdawgwr Жыл бұрын
Thats why it's called competition Rory
@allenyeong4771
@allenyeong4771 Жыл бұрын
Why are LIV golfers taking part in PGA tournament? They are well paid by LIV golf, a normal PGA tournament only pays out slightly more than one million dollars to the winner when they are paid 100 million to take part in LIV golf, so why should PGA allow LIV golfers play in their tournament?
@fenixrising75
@fenixrising75 Жыл бұрын
Because, just like Rory, they qualified & are exempt into the field if they want to play.
@tomweaver9652
@tomweaver9652 Жыл бұрын
Rory is arrogant little jerk. He says that the LIV tour golfers are all washed up, yet he was just beat in the OPEN Championship by Cam Smith the number 2 seed on the PGA tour. I venture to guess if you look back on past tournaments that DJ, Patrick Reed, Jason Kokrak, Brooks Koepka and Taylor Gooch, Bubba Watson and others on the LIV tour have beat him. Now what interesting is that the PGA tour and the European tour are watered down now, and Rory likes it like that so he can win more tournaments in the future. If the LIV players don't play at Wentworth, then Rory will be the most likely to win. But by having the LIV players there he will have some competition. And everything Michael Hudson said below me.
@henrymcvey6538
@henrymcvey6538 Жыл бұрын
Listen to the guy, he said no such thing. Most of them are well into the back 9 career wise that’s the point he was making. Cam Smith has acted badly throughout, knowing he would grab the LIV money yet denying it all the way with his I’m only here to play golf crap! As for the top players like Johnson etc they think they can have the cake and eat it. Greed has driven them and I hope they have doomed their careers to playing the gimmicky Mickey Mouse LIV tour! They shouldn’t bank on being too big to be kept off the PGA tour!
@gordonking2859
@gordonking2859 Жыл бұрын
If you don't like it don't turn up, it's not as If you support the DP tour you made that decision a long time ago
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