Why Nike is boring - Pegasus 41

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[@ReaganWForrest]

2 days ago huh? So that's how you get the first comment!

[@requiem2074]

Please make a video about the new balance 990v3 i think it would be a great video, or a series about all the new balace 9XX series or 990 series

[@adamcuthbert9498]

Atreyu are a brand worth checking out in the running shoe space, their goal was to make super affordable minimalist no-frills performance focused running shoes.

[@IdunRedstone]

Thanks for calling out brands not saying material composition of shoes. It's happening a lot on other clothing as well (in UK company called frasers group is worst for this). I try and buy all clothes from as much natural materials as possible but these people have clothing worth several hundred without a material breakdown.

[@Bully____Maguire]

The Pegasus made it's reputation for being Nike's most boring but reliable daily trainer, because it's so versatile any runner from beginner to expert level can benefit from it. While I agree with everything said about Nike in this video, you picked THE model that's appreciated for not being innovative and instead being a tried and true classic.

[@SiopaoSauc3]

Maybe should have looked at a Pegasus Plus or something? A running shoe series could be tricky. Try ey could have just started with all daily trainers but you get a random s-lab shoe in there. Also no Adidas. Puma or Asics.

[@pahlevymu]

Agree with you, but i think the price is the issue in here. It’s okay to be boring and not innovative, but their price are insane for its material and old tech.

[@metalsadman]

@@pahlevymu they're actually cheaper than other running shoe top brands hoka, adidas, asics, on, saucony to name a few. _From __#PureTuber_

[@derringera]

​@@arunashamalBrooks Ghost $140. Hoka Clifton $145. I wouldn't say cheaper but fairly priced. As a runner I think the only $140 I've particularly enjoyed recently was the ASICS Novablast 4.

[@jaredarteaga8391]

My exact thoughts when watching this video. Thoughout my college career up until my weekend warrior days now , it has been great being able to go back to a consistent pair of trainers for the past 13 years that I've been using pegs in my running shoe rotation. I know exactly how it's going to fit, feel, perform, and last. They are the trusted wrench in the toolbox. and can even double as a lifestyle shoe. This isn't the shoe line that is going to get crazy innovation - that's for vapor and alpha fly. For a neutral foot - this is still one of the best go anywhere / do anything trainer out there.

[@luisodriozola79]

For me it comes down to: -Too expensive -very narrow, pointy toe box

[@dcamnc1]

Yeah, I can't wear them, too narrow and pointy like you said.

[@sammallory]

They come in wide.

[@nassiglutt6587]

💯 agree. If you size up with those pointy toes, heel slippage going to be the problem. Even on their basketball shoes with athletes. Almost all are pointed toes😩

[@luisodriozola79]

@@sammallory Really? I ever realized... 🤦 I have really wide, really healty and really mobile feet, I need more width and space than the wider Nike Sonic the hodgehog running shoes offer.

[@luisodriozola79]

@@arunashamal Yeah, you are a fan boy, we got it. They are more expensive if you consider that you got less for the same money: worse foams, worse total mileage, less durability, less comfort. Is not so simple as "get the wider one" if I get a wide enough shoe they would look and feel as clown shoes because the length, and became unrunnable. I'm far better off with my asics and salomons.

[@zt7088]

I think this was the wrong shoe to look to for really special innovation. Pegasus has always been the kind of “classic” running shoe. Pretty ordinary colorways and standard cushioning. They’re trusty, able to go for a long time, get beat up and dirty, then get tossed at 300-400 miles. Nobody in the running community that I’m aware of really looks to the Peg to be anything mind blowing.

[@dnawei1o121]

Good thing this was addressed in the video!

[@zt7088]

Kinda I guess? They paid some lip service to it being an everyday shoe and being this wrong one, but kept asking where the innovation was. They’re showing images of Puma’s super shoe, Hoka Mach X, and other carbon plated shoes. Why cut this one open then? If it was to help you pick the best average runner, maybe, but that wasn’t evident.

[@dnawei1o121]

@@zt7088 They literally say this is the everyday trainer that isn't known for innovation, and this is not what is losing their customer base. It is their failure to connect with hobby joggers.

[@ballgameshoes8583]

For $140?

[@zt7088]

@@ballgameshoes8583 The Hoka Clifton's they showed are $145, hardly ever go on sale, and are in the same category as the Pegasus. I don't know the prices of the others, but aside from the Kirkland ones, they're probably about the same. I may not like it, but that's what decent running shoes cost these days I guess. Pegusus go on sale pretty frequently, which is nice.

[@KC-kp4vh]

Late 1970s Nike, “we’re gonna use foam and air in our shoes” Mid 2020s Nike, “we’re still using foam and air in our shoes, but now you’re paying more!”

[@StoicDivinity]

Something... something... Federal Reserve... something.

[@xxstealerxx]

Also cardboard

[@GEES44DC]

Air over everything.

[@eoretaspace]

i dunno what you're expecting when almost every sports brand went back to improved foam after they had their sci-fi tech era to compete against air and shox

[@shgenergy]

To be fair, the pegasus has never been a shoe where nike tries to push any new tech or be super advanced with. It's supposed to be a reliable daily runner and it has a pretty big following for being so consistent. The price hike to $140 is what bothers me more, getting to the point where its not really an affordable option

[@watchreport]

If you are smart you never pay $140. They all go on sale and will eventually be on sale plus 25% on the Nike app. I’ve bought all my Nikes from the app, metcons, Pegasus, Pegasus trail etc, and have never paid full price. I bought a pair of Pegasus trail 4 last year for $78. And in May of last year a pair of Pegasus 39 for $62

[@derringera]

A fairly large following among non-runners. I think the intro states that the key point is they lost sight of their primary audience. Unless it's a $240 vaporfly on race day I don't see any Nikes on my fellow runners' feet anymore.

[@hungryforfun3565]

Nike went from a performance brand to a fashion brand . With that actual innovation for performance and went to mass produced garbage for the cool kids . Hell even the jerseys for the mlb , nba and nfl are utter trash .

[@AmnesiaTanner]

now happening to Salomon

[@dscrappylocogolani9555]

​@@AmnesiaTanner someone needed to say that out loud. Yeah, man, very disappointed.

[@lz2012]

@@arunashamal You think a shoe make you run better??? You are exactly who Nike markets to.

[@Morbpious]

Like half of their innovations got banned from sports, of course they weren't gonna waste money on R&D anymore

[@wongfit]

I kinda of agree, except Nike's top tier shoe the Alphafly has been legit for a long time. To be the king you gotta knock the king off. The company is so big that it does market elsewhere on many other things, such as fashionable stuff vs performance/comfortability/tech.

[@johnwednesdaylapp2446]

honestly the 41 is the best Pegasus in years!

[@justinpatrickhoffman]

In all fairness, the Nike Pegasus has been around for about 41 years. It’s a basic workhorse running shoe. They have their customer / fan base already setup. I think they want to make small incremental changes to the shoe in order to maintain their fan base. It’s kind of like “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

[@rothgonch1174]

true i had my first pegasus 90;;; and is the best sensation i ever had, since ever i tried many many others and also these the peg 90 is a non back retro actually, cause the elements on these were real well made pair of and materials, and tech, and 35 years or more ago,so the actual pegs have a big heavy weight to carry to keep happy our niche. and is alwys well received a new of nike pegassus.!

[@poncesean]

I like pegasus, im buying another one since i wornout my pegasus 39

[@thommyrubin1866]

My choice of running shoes is Asics Kayano. Very good running shoe for me because I have a slight overpronation. Choose a running shoe based on your own preferences before choosing a specific shoe brand. It will make wonders for your running workout.

[@daniel-qs5sz]

New balance, Hoka, brooks, ASICS, saucony, are killing Nike, Nike always have small tight shoes more and more people want wider shoes. The only one using Nike shoes are professional athletes.

[@francisportugal5584]

Same here. Those brands are now becoming my new brands for my next shoes.

[@kshere]

The wide part is so true

[@oliverato]

yeah, for "normal" people brands like NB, Asics, Hoka are more than enough, and the thing about the names of technologies the video is spot on, Im a sucker for Asics, but even I cant remember all the new stuff that they are doing, even when the names are simplier, oh a new type of foam, they compare it to the old one and change the name in a way that you can tell the difference, with Nike I dont know even what the fuck is going on with speed react% plus zoom, like come on.

[@Bully____Maguire]

While it is true that Nike's regular width shoes are very narrow, especially in the toe box area. They also do offer wide and extra wide versions, albeit mostly exclusively for their running shoes. The shoe in this video (the pegasus) also comes in 2E (wide)/4E (extra wide) and is comparable in comfortability to the wide width offerings of those other brands you mentioned, except Saucony. They only offer one 4E shoe, the Echelon 9. Which is probably their least popular model. While the pegasus is often referred to as Nike's most known running shoe, with the exception of the Vaporfly's. So imo Saucony is the most guilty for making narrow shoes out of all the brands you mentioned.

[@heybrowhatup]

Most of those brands have been around forever so that’s not it. People are tired of Nike’s declining quality which is forcing people to reconsider the other brands.

[@blackguardunlimeted]

I have a pair of pegasus 41, I use them at the gym: they are amazing for running, I come from a pair of nike pegasus shield 38, in the past I always had a lot of nike running shoes, I loved, the now dead "downshifter" line, but today there are so many options, I also have asics and adidas sneakers for perfomance and running in general ... and I think this is good for us. They are forced to keep on pushing on new tech., a good challenge is good for everybody !

[@rothgonch1174]

true. the challenge is to feel confy feet and let the brands make better options, is an example , saucony the intro line, is few known, and by using it is similar to a better New ballance or nefty salomon.s more techy ones but,, always u know a pair of nike's will work ever,,, and if u are metoculous, ucould find techy nikes ondiscounts. so... its an open door of options. and just let feet choose

[@conke7765]

Problem with nike is that when they make the perfect shoe, they just do it for a year and move on to a new one. They dont give the shoes time to cement themselves anymore.

[@eoretaspace]

the comments here prove that if you dont fix what's working, they will complain as "lack of innovation" in a span of a year or two lol

[@ccccjjjjeeee]

They just brought back the Pegasus Turbo (called "Pegasus Plus" this time for some reason), it's a great shoe and I'm sure they'll ditch it again next year :(

[@HEMAYATC]

As a runner who has been wearing Pegasus since 2012 (Peg 28), I wholeheartedly agree with Colin. Nike is certainly an innovator, but the problem is other brands have caught uo and improved on the tech that Nike pioneered. In the meantime, newer, less known brands have been working harder to connect with communities and provide septic products while Nike has been churning out shoes in a business as usual way. Finally, generally a lot of people tend to start out with Nike as it is a well known brand and over time gravitate to a a different brand that better suits their needs (example, Altras have wide toe boxes, Hokas have more cushioning,Brooks have more structure etc etc).

[@damonsiegiel7855]

I spent 2 days trying on shoes for comfort and fit. None even came close in comfort for me than the pegasus 41. i walk between 5 and 15 miles a day on hard surface at work. I was able to get a size 11 in wide width, Very pleased I could care less what's new or innovative because i care more about my feet not hurting. Yes I tried all the major brands your going to mention but the pegasus 41 was by far the best for my feet just needed the wide width and it was love at first step.

[@markanstrom2981]

My next pair of running shoes will likely be Brooks or NB. Not because I think they're more stylish, but because Nike stopped making shoes in B width. You'd think that with the plethora of models shoe companies make available in wide widths, they'd keep even *one* still available for those of us with narrow feet. Nope.

[@TheSara200424]

The new balance soles are soft and don't last long if your a road runner brooks has a harder sole, I've went through a few of the nb running shoes until I changed 🤔👍

[@symptomofsouls]

Where do you even buy narrow shoes? Have a lot of family who needs EEE. See wide shoes everywhere but never narrow

[@markanstrom2981]

@@symptomofsouls I don't. I wear two pairs of athletic socks. No joke. For dress shoes, I suck it up and spend $350 on Allen Edmonds. It's either that, or blisters.

[@leanest3829]

@@TheSara200424 what's in your opinion the brands with best and harder sole?

[@Tang-qi6zw]

Bit of a correction, but Nike didn't start their innovations for the supershoes, they just took them the farthest and to the largest market. The first carbon plated running shoe was the Brooks Fusion in 1991, which they called their propulsion system. Then the high response foams was the biggest push by Adidas/Puma (really the petroleum company they contracted) in 2013. The Nike Vaporfly was introduced in 2016. No company pushed shoe technology as far as Nike did to the point that they influence running shoe regulations for competition, but they didn't start these technologies. Even at the start, Blue Ribbon Sports was re-selling Onitsuka Tiger shoes as cheap running shoes compared to New Balance's offerings. The Cortez wasn't much different from the Mexico. Then Nike got its two big innovations in the 1970s: Air and the waffle sole. Why is Nike losing share? For apparel, they have pretty middle quality but some of the highest price. When lululemon is more expensive, it's just better apparel. Adidas really invested to be stylish, for shoes and clothing really doing those artist collabs. Then Nike doesn't even put themselves in your local running store. You go there, and you see Brooks, Hoka, and Altra mostly. Then On, Saucony, Solomon, and Icebug if they have space. Nike has put themselves into large chain sports stores like Dick's (there isn't even a Dick's in every state), which limits their visibility to runners. People also want to try on shoes before buying them, usually. So that really prevents their sale. Then it's been forever since the running regulations were changed by Nike's marathon shoe advancements, so they've lost the huge boost in popularity by pushing an official sub-2 hour marathon (current official record is 2:00:35 set October 2023 at Chicago), and it's been time since the unofficial sub-2 marathon with the pacers done so it didn't count. Since Covid forced online purchases, and Nike has the best marketing, they also got an artificially high boost to their sales at that time. So a shrink was inevitable. I use Saucony as my race shoe, because it has a stiff carbon plate and responsive foam that's like boost. But it's cheaper than other racing shoes, and I can get last year's model less than half price at my local running store.

[@mylesgalos6465]

A saucony guy too

[@derringera]

Not only is Dicks not in every state, they mostly only carry those peg adjacent entry level shoes. So anyone who wanted to try a Nike other than a peg was out of luck for quite a few years. I just answered a Dicks email questionnaire the other day asking how they can have a whole running section and not have at least an endorphin speed. Not even an Asics Novablast at the same price as a peg 😅

[@hansink]

If I was bonafide fast with running, I would consider Nike supershoes. But as a amateur, I care more deeply about stability, tracking and shock absorbtion. And for those specifics, there are better options. Running is more populair than ever, Nike should be selling like hot cakes!

[@nickf1354]

It’s just the wrong Nike shoe to cut apart and test for innovation as it’s known to be the least. Go the Alphaflys or the Vaporflys and then look at performance of these shoes compared to peers….thats more accurate. Having said that thank u for cutting apart running shoes as I think it’s a topic more people are getting interested in. Love the videos…🥰🙏 Colin really knows his stuff as well and he is valid with what he says.

[@JJ-zr6fu]

Nikes tech is the comparable to everyone else’s but the big problem for them is they price it way higher than everyone else. Basically if you pay for a lower tier Nike shoe you’re getting a horrible shoe.

[@MuiKaHo]

nike tech is definitely not comparable at higher end ones. the lower end sure. there is reason why nike's running shoe was banned from competitions.

[@ibtarnine]

yeah but their shoes look better. nearly every other shoe is ugly or derivative and worse looking.

[@mkittappa]

I go to a free running club at a local brewery every week. From time to time running shoe companies will come by with shoes that we can try out on our weekly 5k run. I’ve been able to run rest so many different shoes from all the manufacturers, except Nike. Nike never visits to demo their products. Nike’s competitors are getting out meeting and engaging the local running communities, while Nike is sitting back and relying on their past glory to sell their shoes.

[@nikeiddude123]

Im a huge nike fan and avid consumer. From my perspective they don’t take into account the communities, they have been extremely money hungry and always shooting for profit. And they don’t want to innovate when they don’t have to. They know they can keep selling the same shoes from 40 years ago and it keeps the company stable. I think if they took more risks and innovated something radically new they could capture the essence of what the company was in its peak. A performance footwear company. I hope with this change of leadership the company moves forward and strives for excellency.

[@wongfit]

Hell yes! I've been waiting for running shoe comparisons, the type of foam and studying it really matters and the last 3-5 years there have been significant advancements. Wide options matter. Total weight, too. Also comparing the types of shoes. Such as a Clifton 9 can be a direct comparison to a Brooks Ghost16. There are both max stacks and cushions, and of course the speed shoes. Then you can kind of compare what you get for the money. An example right now is a lot of folks love the Puma Velocity Nitro 3 and the Asics Noveblast 4 as daily trainers since they all hover around $140 and are balanced and can eat up a lot of miles. Can also do one for walking too. (runner shoe companies shoes that people use for walking, IE Brooks Ghost Max 2). Brands: Saucony, Asics, Hoka, Brooks, Adidas, New balance is a good start

[@bimmarvinlim3804]

Man! getting into 1M subscribers. This channel helped me a lot in choosing the right footwear.

[@TheContrariann]

Where was this Channel !! I finally found it !! The holy grail of Running 🏃‍♂️ Shoes 👟 Channel 😍 ❤‼

[@chicano4041]

The tech is fine... awesome actually. The problem with Nike is their designs are simply boring and uninspiring. Look at the lacing system and lacing loop overlays. How many times are they going to use that same boxy design? Same with the actual shoe overlays. They're just kind of there and functional but they're not "fun". Whereas something like the Asics Novablast 4 overlays are wavy and have actual physical texture and patterns that make the shoe look exciting and stylish while still serving as strong structural support. Nike is just stale. Get new and fun designs and stick to the foams and zoom and Nike will rebound.

[@IAmInfinitus208]

Exactly. The tech, especially Zoom Air and ZoomX, have been Nike's best cushioning techs. Like you said, their designwork needs improvement.

[@victortillamillamonster4083]

All that being said, these are my favorite shoes out there. Incredibly breathable, daily foot pain gone. Ready to go on a sprint at any moment and the color choices are phenomenal. However, I'm talking about the Pegasus 39,40s. Not much difference it looks like between 40 and 41. Price wise they go on sale for like 70 a couple of times of year. U can't beat that for such a workhorse running shoe.

[@Chink9198]

As a runner, as long as Nike keeps that narrow toebox, I'm not going back - except for the Vaporflys. New Balance all the way.

[@petMonster28]

Great stuff, as usual. I'd love to see you do Kujo yard boots/shoes, some time.

[@UnknownUser-rb9pd]

We need models like the Nike Pegasus. They are the sort of shoe that people who want a regular running shoe that only changes a little over the generations. No real gimmicks, no new technologies. A mid-range shoe that people have run in for decades and just works. Every year they go into the store and buy the next version. Effectively they are the HERITAGE running shoe similar to the heritage boots this channel likes so much

[@johncherry1870]

I am very happy with my Pegasus 40’s and 41’s. Great shoes.

[@viCoN24]

Thanks Colin for your analysis!

[@SinayPinheito]

The materials used are top notch. The leather feels soft and luxurious, exactly like the real thing. The stitching is impeccable, with no loose or uneven lines. The hardware (including the iconic CC twist lock clasp) is durable, well made, and adds to the overall elegance of the bag luxrul . I thought everyone who owned an LV monogram bag knew that it was obviously coated canvas? When people spend a fortune on an expensive bag, they might as well buy a replica

[@levirajnowski4474]

Just ran my first 100 miler, for years I've exclusively used La Sportiva and Salomon on trails as my go to shoes. During the race I ended up throwing my plan out and ran the Trail Pegasus 5's for about 70 miles. Nike's new trail shoes feel worlds ahead of Hoka and the other brands, and if you shop sales they can be relatively affordable!

[@elijahmodnar1]

but when those pegasus get the obligatory 25% discount (birthday-month) then they have no peer!

[@dantedicostanzo1051]

Great video! would love to see the NB 880 as a comparison to the pegasus!

[@ReyDereli]

It is funny that you haven't mention Adidas in the video which is the biggest competitor of Nike for running division that still do innovation. I think the main reason the sales down is Nike recently has too many options with terrible value. For most people Nike products are not the first choice when you are looking for a premium super shoe anymore. As a person who owns lots of running shoes (also several Nikes), I find myself mostly looking for a different brand for lower price that usually exists whenever I'm shopping.

[@skrrtcocain]

Especially since Adidas is the one that has been winning top competitions lately.

[@heybrowhatup]

Adidas has been living off of Ultra Boost for years which people are over it.

[@shouka916]

@@heybrowhatup in their running shoe lineup they don't use ultraboost for a long time already they use lightstrike and lightstrike pro

[@shouka916]

​@@heybrowhatup Nope they do not use ultraboost foam in their Adizero Running lineup for a long time already. Only shoes that use those are mostly for lifestyle models.

[@heybrowhatup]

@@shouka916 yeah nobody is buying their other shoes dude.

[@justjosh11]

Hey man, do you have any plans to review any Sketchers? Love mine, so much more comfortable than anything else I've worn.

[@universalhologram7266]

As a real running shoe geek, I would love to see the Adidas Pro Evo 1 or Nike Alphafly 3 being cut apart. Ofcourse the Pegasus is going to be boring!

[@massie27]

It would be cool to do a comparison of the "super shoes" since a lot of them are interesting in their construction and ability to be reused if that is even possible. Most of the super shoes are only meant to last for the length of a marathon and this is because the plate material in nearly all of them is built to be as light as possible but able to withstand withiut failure the 26.2 mile race (and warm up before it)

[@kevinjhonson5925]

Always was overpriced garbage was when I was a kid in the 80,90s still are.

[@AD-mo5sg]

I wear Pegasus 39 and have no complaints about them. That being said, I also love collecting retro Jordans and my biggest pet peeve is the lack of innovation in terms of comfort in their old models. Just give me a comfortable Jordan 4 or 3, especially a 1 without making them look weird!

[@alphaperez]

Nike arguably had the best superfoam with ZoomX but competitors have caught up, and basically today every running shoe brand has a 1) high end and (PEBA foam), and 2) a low end midsole foam (EVA foam). Nike hasn't brought its superfoams into its base running shoes like the Pegasus, which is why runners have flocked to other brands, which have included superfoams into running shoes for people who aren't trying to set Olympic records. So you either get a Peg with an EVA foam, or a competitor's daily trainer shoe that uses a superfoam. Midsole foam is 100% the battelground. The Zoom Air unit is also in the Alphafly, Nike's best marathon shoe, but those Air units are still older tech compared to just a big stack of superfoam.

[@ThomasWake1]

Even Puma makes better running shoes than Nike now. But ya know ppl go for the hype.

[@tomr164]

And not just running shoes, they've made some really decent ones recently.

[@ThomasWake1]

@@tomr164New Balance is easily the best quality American sportswear brand if we’re talking quality

[@symptomofsouls]

​@@ThomasWake1I have a pair of NB running shoes. They are way too soft for me, no responsiveness at all. Better than Nike running shoes but not what I am looking for. I want responsiveness and limited cushion

[@datharo5]

Last really comfy Pegasus sneaker I've worn is the 36. But i think it's because it used full length zoom air with cushlon foam. It honestly melts my heart when i see the 36/35 on people's feet

[@GBNE-kh1fs]

Used to love Pegasus around the 29-31 models. Since then, the toebox narrowness has completely excluded them for me. Love the Wildhorse 8s.. they look fresh and are super comfy

[@Crnicelad]

Forefoot & heel or full length zoom air units are still imo the best cushioning technology sensation under foot regardless of the sport. Weightlifting excluded, as there you want as much stability and ground feel as possible, cushioning is actually detrimental. In terms of performance, you want the best available and something you can rely upon, so sticking to zoom air or a good foam setup with a herringbone outsole tread, where you know it works is something that is actually a plus for sports. The biggest issue with Nike, I and many people I talk to have, is that they change nothing or even make their products worse than the previous generation by removing tech & quality materials, while charging way more money. At the same time we see Puma, Adidas, Li-ning, Anta, ... offer the best they have to offer with new visual designs at lower prices. I play basketball & badminton on the regular and for both categories I can buy a shoe loaded with tech at the same price point of 110-160€/$ at those competitors, while Nike gives me the most basic of basic stuff they can make with a re-cycled design, put a 150€/$ price tag on it and call it a day. Book 1's being a prime example of this. Same for Jordan signature athletes. Jordan line used to offer the best of the best available. Still does for the main line but at 200€/$. But for their signature shoe lines like Luka, Zion, Tatum, Westbrook, they skimp out and the product can't compete at the price point against all other brands.

[@miguelpatino3856]

Do the Reebok Floatrides next! I used to be a Pegasus guy until I tried the Reebok Floatride Energy shoes. The Reeboks were more comfortable and lasted way longer than the Nike Pegasus (at least for me anyway), all while being about $20-30 cheaper.

[@felicio1881]

I think looking at the crazy foams of these running brands would be cool like the hyperion from brooks plus others would be very interesting

[@kayneharker3348]

Would absolutely love to see some asics, I have switched from new balance shoes which I loved, but tried some asics out and loved them. I'm not too sure if it's me or what but I now have 3 different pairs and they just fit and feel amazing, and the quality is a 10 on all of them

[@KenzieTrinityDeasy]

Glad I don’t wear running shoes but I still love Nike. I wear mainly SB & AJs

[@bodosify]

I’m in a running club and 90% wear ASICS, New Balance, Brooks or Saucony. Hardly anyone wears Nike. That being said I do own a pair of the Peg 41 and they are much improved over the 40

[@marmot4585]

Important note on why they're losing market share is that during/post-covid Nike's strategy was to move away from in store presence in favor of online sales. Though it worked at first, leaving store shelves open to their competitors has seeped away market share from Nike. And now the Nike CEO is reversing their decision and trying to get their shoes back in stores

[@gamingwithcc6024]

Like to see a series of stability shoes, like saucony guides and brooks adrenaline.

[@SirBoric]

The Nike Pegasus should stay exactly as they are. They’re always reliable, making them a low risk dependable option. No need to fix what ain’t broken. Love em. No innovation required!

[@jorge23483]

My uncle’s generation still grew up with Nike runners and the first Basketball shoes, and I grew up up with the larger than life MJ, Shaq and the other legends of basketball making Nike the brand to be one of cool kids. I’m personally more into Adidas and I really enjoy the NMD line so far as a lifestyle shoe. I think brands like Adidas and Nike are reaching too far and lost sight for their core markets.

[@MyManD]

I think you need to add a shank/speed plate category as well, because shanks are so important for a running shoe and the fact that these seemingly don't have one is a crime.

[@tslash93]

When I was a sales rep from nike, I've stumbled upon a pegasus 34 that was girl sized and it didn't had the front zoom unit. Nike seperate the girl's and women's shoes with different product numbers, and I've always thought that the main difference was the color's and sizes, but at least at the time there was some major structural differences that were not advirtised. Also important to note that the girl's sizes were cheaper, even of the same size was available for woman.

[@kfung4]

nike still produce product with new tech, but only in their top tier super shoe line, and Pegasus 41is more like entry level everyday running shoe. I believe they are losing market share its due to their pricing strategy, they are charging so much more for the same tier running shoes. And for actual runner, tits common that good performance shoes which only last around 600km, so they basically have to purchase a new pair every season, and those expenses add-up.

[@driver8sk]

The last pair of Nike's I bought started squeaking after a month. I can't remember the last time even a cheap pair of sneaks did that to me. Thought I'd branch out from New Balance, but relegating a month old pair of shoes to yardwork cured me of that.

[@mainsourcery]

Nike track spike shoes are great……but most people don’t sprint, because they can’t sprint. Then they end up going on sale for almost half off. More money saved for me 💰

[@YashAtishay]

I used to be a life time nike runner but now am running in Asics, I would love to see you guys cut open an Asics GT series

[@StealthNinja4577]

As a normie that buys sneakers once the old ones wear out and wants at least a couple years out of a pair... I just want a normal looking shoe with no weird heel in normal colors to match my lifestyle of walking but sometimes needing to run and standing a lot. Got some pair of Nikes back in 2013 and felt like I aged 50 years with intense knee pain. Got something more traditional 90s looking nike sneaker and it went away immediately.

[@markusmcgee]

6'4" 310lbs - Pegasus 38, 39, 40 - havent bought a 41. The 37s were the worst Nike Pegasus I ever had. Gave away brand new pairs because they hurt and were twice as heavy for some reason.

[@Tennesseemontana]

Break down the new balance rebel v4! It’s probably the most popular running shoe of the year!

[@hunterlord101]

I have a pair of these and tbh theyre pretty comfy as general walking shoes. Much better than the Jordans id been largely wearing.

[@SiopaoSauc3]

Some comments for if you ever do more running shoe content. It would be nice to see running b-roll. How many miles/km you did in the shoes before cutting them in half. what kind of runs were done and even a quick stats for the test runner would be useful.

[@tf4927]

Nike / jordans lifestyle models became so popular I think ppl associate uncomfortable retros with them more than cutting edge runners

[@1RunnerDad]

I’m w Colin. That’s not the shoe to judge the loss of market share by. They are losing market share because a few years back, they tried to upend the clear categories of neutral, stability and motion control, and nobody could twist what their shoes are for. Read the descriptions. Every shoe is cushion! Every shoe is stable! Every shoe has some named foam that apparently does the same thing as every other named foam they make. It’s a mess. Why risk it?

[@eoretaspace]

I dont really get when ppl explain why they think nike is not innovative these days, some say stupid answers like "nike still uses the same air cushioning) like ZoomX and reactX foam doesnt exist. The running department is alright but the basketball and NSW department really needs a direction shift. Some of the latest bball shoes like JA1, 2 and Tatum 2 have us wondering why we are paying 130 for a sneaker that decreased the amount of tech such as zoom air bags and carbon fiber plates. In the NSW it was great to see react af1 v1, v2 but also they didnt promote the AIR dunk jumbo, a dunk with softer midsole and an air unit, so I remember many ppl thought it was just a "weird" looking dunk for those who couldnt cop the dunks (this is during the dunk craze). Also they need to give more cushioning to their classics like af1, am90, 95, 97, New Balance is doing that with their classic shoes and the pricing range from same to similar. Even the people who grew up in the air max hype days are now in their 30,40s so they switch to more comfortable shoes so everyone yells "nike is not innovating" after the 20% stock drop (in one day? hmmmm) but when I ask them why, some give bogus answer (like zoomX and ReactX doesnt exist) and they pretend some innovative hit pieces dont exist to get likes on their snarky IG comments.

[@johncherry1870]

I have tried Hoka and ON and had problems with all these shoes. ON’s don’t work well for heavy people, they just break down quickly. The Hoka didn’t have a structural upper to hold my foot in place, causing knee issues.

[@dagttv]

Nike has such an incredible history as an American shoe company. But they waded far too deep into the low-cost-high-price deep end. Quality dropped while prices went higher. Not a winning combination and puts a lot of pressure on brand loyalty & image. They need to take a few serious executive pay cuts to improve material quality or lower price. Alas it might not happen until the economy bounces back. I am rooting for them-they push other emerging brands to be more creative in the free market of ideas.

[@beautifulmanclub2512]

Can you please review Norda shoes? Preferably all 3 models.

[@zeroelus]

The community aspect is something that caught my attention too. You buy Nikes? Cool. Oh but here’s this on event you can go and run to, and asics just finished an instagram livestream and they had a fun event and so on, never see anything like that for Nike. They have a lot of stores, so they could do something I’m sure. And regarding the Pegasus it makes sense what was commented that it’s their conservative bread and butter line. I bought the 39s and loved them, ran one pair into the ground and bought another pair “with premium “ materials but on sale when the 40s where out. Bought some 40s similarly when the 41s came out…but they feel so different. It’s something similar I read about the 39 when they came out, and now I see what they mean. While I use those as day to day shoes and trainers, I mostly focus on playing tennis and it’s the same story with their tennis shoe line. The same “name” model has different attributes, and they might reissue those models but you have to wait for a drop. I couldn’t wait for those shenanigans when my former Nikes gave out and bought some asics. I loved them and the gel resolution line is popular for being mostly consistent, so I know whenever these give up, I can just buy some new ones and be done with it. I’ll probably switch to them once my current pegs give up.

[@BrendenBurke-c4f]

Could you review the Nike Manoa work boot. Or Bates boots and see how they're made.

[@RandomPerson-op1bq]

As someone else said, this is their pegasus, the least inovated running shoe by nike, because people like the basic style, its lightweight, relatively responsive and its universally known. If your looking for other nike trainers look at the vomero, invincible and pegasus plus. Their racing shoes are also very impressive and intresting.

[@matsimms7467]

🇬🇧 great review. Glad someone said it. Spot on.

[@zin6749]

You should do the Keen Cincinnati's for this years MOCtober

[@USSJeff]

Where I am in Canada you can't even buy Nike running shoes in our running stores. It has been like that for over 5 years. If I wanted a pair of Pegasus 41s I'd have to order them from their website.

[@CommeDesDoni]

What’s that Kirkland shoes?

[@danimalman3]

What I think nikes problem is now that they've gotten this big they're playing it safe. I definitely agree that other brands while in a lot of ways are copying nike, are doing things that feel fresh and new. A lot of nikes especially on the basketball side are very similar in tech and in design. They stopped doing what made them big. Taking risks and innovation.

[@ericgardner5548]

I love my Pegasus shoes, have three pair.

[@Sewerrat8official]

Can you cut open English riding tall boots? I think the standard feild boots or the ariat ascent would be cool

[@jammaschan]

The reactX foam is literally a new innovation. Dude doesn't knownwhat he's talking about. Colin got it.

[@cafenightster4548]

Nikes are ok, they have nice looking shoes. The shoes that I bought for running 4 miles every other day, they never lasted more than 4 months. The one I'm wearing rn now are New Balance runners that are discounted.

[@DirtyP]

I think a major part is because they gave up on innovation and were so focused on regurgitating old models in new colors. I miss the free run era

[@JC-fj7oo]

Nike is the giant, and unfortunately that means they can't do that much to expand. If they get radical with their tech, the nike fans will complain that they changed. If they don't change, then they aren't keeping up with the new tech. Where a smaller company like Puma or ON can just go balls-out crazy and make shoes like the RULE BREAKER and really get people interested in running shoes, even if they aren't necessarily the best shoe, they captivate the imagination. Unfortunately what happened at the same time is that they weren't releasing their top tier tech to the public. So they had alphaflys and whatnot being touted by the greatest runners, but most people couldn't just go get a pair because they were artificially limiting production. Whereas anyone could just go buy a pair of fast-r or metaspeed sky's... BUT, like Colin said, the peagasus isn't the shoe to compare to other brands. The pegasus is on it's 41st iteration. People buying the pegasus want a pegasus. They don't want new exciting fancy tech, they want the shoe they had as a kid 40 years ago, but with some modern materials added in. IF you want to compare to other brands you need flagship products like the alphafly or the vaporfly or even the invincible... And you need to compare those with other brand's flagship models. And in the flagship arena, nike does a good job. Assuming your foot fits the tiny toebox. But anything less than top tier price brackets and you just end up with blah mediocre shoes that don't excite anyone at price points that reflect the popularity they had when Jordan was still dunking. I'm also going to point out that "big corporate" is a bad word now. A lot of hipsters, like those of us who watch boots cut in half on youtube :) just don't want to buy a product from the biggest producer of mediocre shoes. We want to get something more unique, small batch, imported... and whether it's because we like the style or because we think it's going to give an edge... It's just how millennials shop. And that is something to consider because it's a reason for the change in market share that nike doesn't have any control over. Nike will never be able to sell "small batch hand crafted" because we all know nike as the jumbo sized sweatshop brand. Sorry nike!

[@rantanamo]

People are doing what people do: They see something new and they trend it. There's no difference technology or innovation gap. These foams are all similar, uppers are made of similar material. They're all using plastic or carbon plates on ridiculous stack heights. Not to mention, the price stuff is cap. All of these brands are similar in price per the category of shoes. Ventilation is similar, weight is similar. Not sure what is so dead about their foam compared to others. Trust, I go through a lot of running shoes, and outside of NB Fuel Cell, there's a lot of Cap going on. Not to mention Nike is still beating all of these brands in sales. The talk is the loss of market share. I agree they are stretched to thin as a brand, but a lot of this talk is bologna. How many shoe reviews do I see complaining that Nike doesn't have something. When they do have it(or already had it), its dead or doesn't work in that case. Trendiness strikes again. These shoes are all the damn same.

[@dijojohn38]

Bingo.

[@derringera]

Generally agree but you did kind of lose me at the Fuel Cell part 😅.

[@christenn32]

Everything is trendy. It's now trendy to buy running shoes that aren't Nikes. I run in Nikes every day, and there is nothing wrong with them, and I see no reason to change to another brand.

[@OnesTheGodBMW]

🎯Bingo and these trendy runners that ppl are wearing aren't new they are old as hell but Nike lacks innovation????like come the f#$k on this guy doesn't run and clearly is misinformed he is mostly into boots wtf he needs to get someone who knows more about the shoe cause clearly he's following a trend of bashing Nike

[@ucatani]

Fads are fads and hating Nike gets many likes on the KZbin shitsphere, and thrse guys know it, they have the metrics. But they never say how much market share Nike is losing, data is never presented.

[@shadowasii4492]

Id like to see a vid on the new adidas aruku, its positioned as a lifestyle walking shoe yet its midsole uses a 50mm stack height and uses a new foam called swirlfoam

[@Akatsukey07]

Can you make a review on Air Pegasus 89?

[@TheKryptokat]

FYI my Extra Wide Pegasus 41 has the same toe box as my Lems Primal Zens of the same size. This is boring innovation keeps me a loyal customer. I kept checking all the other brands when the extra wide 40s disappeared but getting a flagship running shoe in extra wide is limited to Nike for the moment (at least in my area).

[@javierlandaverde4108]

Quick note: John Donahoe left Nike. They got a new CEO.

[@qu3nt]

the video was probably shot before he stepped down

[@bffmrk]

Nike has just been riding it's name and doesnt change for shit.

[@Ponyo3816]

Honestly. Nike needs to rerelease the Nike Zoom Air All Out 2. I can't find anymore on secondary markets. And these are my all time favorite shoes. I've bought 6 pairs of them alone.

[@General1Cal]

The Pegasus are true working shoes so far I have 400 miles on the 40, tried to replace them with five other shoes and they failed now my nails are bleeding on the inside. I think Nike should never mess with their formula.

[@jorge23483]

It’s like: “C’mon, we are Nike”… Sheer F’ing hubris.

[@omenvii242]

I've run in multiple different models from each brand mentioned and then some. Nike has a very narrow last for their shoes, and they haven't really improved the models that matter most, the daily trainers. Most brands are constantly trying to improve their daily trainers because it's what gets bought and used the most. Nike only focuses on their racing line, which are amazing, but not everyone is buying the Alpha Fly next % for daily use. Again, it's the daily trainers that aren't improving in any meaningful way.

[@mikelee8535]

I used to run in the widest Pegasus and I would get to around the 16-18 mile mark and my feet hurt so bad I would have to stop. Both little toes became giant blisters and I felt like the side of my mid-foot was being slammed with sledgehammers. I switched to Altra Torins and the same pain can be felt around the 48-50 mile mark with less blisters. I now wear the widest Topos I can find and they are even more comfortable than the Torins as Altra can't decide on the sizing of the shoe from version to version and Altra shoes deteriorate way too fast.

[@VaskerHound]

have you consider reviewing some mexican brands like pirma,panam or flexi they make some nike and adidas heavily inspire sneakers at absurdly low price (20- $80) but are kinda vague with their materials and perfomance