Why Nike is boring - Pegasus 41

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[@ReaganWForrest]

2 days ago huh? So that's how you get the first comment!

[@requiem2074]

Please make a video about the new balance 990v3 i think it would be a great video, or a series about all the new balace 9XX series or 990 series

[@adamcuthbert9498]

Atreyu are a brand worth checking out in the running shoe space, their goal was to make super affordable minimalist no-frills performance focused running shoes.

[@IdunRedstone]

Thanks for calling out brands not saying material composition of shoes. It's happening a lot on other clothing as well (in UK company called frasers group is worst for this). I try and buy all clothes from as much natural materials as possible but these people have clothing worth several hundred without a material breakdown.

[@luisodriozola79]

For me it comes down to: -Too expensive -very narrow, pointy toe box

[@dcamnc1]

Yeah, I can't wear them, too narrow and pointy like you said.

[@sammallory]

They come in wide.

[@nassiglutt6587]

💯 agree. If you size up with those pointy toes, heel slippage going to be the problem. Even on their basketball shoes with athletes. Almost all are pointed toes😩

[@arunashamal]

So buy the wide shoe. And Nike shoes aren’t anymore expensive than the competing offerings from their competitors either.

[@luisodriozola79]

@@sammallory Really? I ever realized... 🤦 I have really wide, really healty and really mobile feet, I need more width and space than the wider Nike Sonic the hodgehog running shoes offer.

[@KC-kp4vh]

Late 1970s Nike, “we’re gonna use foam and air in our shoes” Mid 2020s Nike, “we’re still using foam and air in our shoes, but now you’re paying more!”

[@StoicDivinity]

Something... something... Federal Reserve... something.

[@xxstealerxx]

Also cardboard

[@GEES44DC]

Air over everything.

[@hungryforfun3565]

Nike went from a performance brand to a fashion brand . With that actual innovation for performance and went to mass produced garbage for the cool kids . Hell even the jerseys for the mlb , nba and nfl are utter trash .

[@AmnesiaTanner]

now happening to Salomon

[@arunashamal]

Kipchoge ran sub 2 hour marathon wearing a Nike. and everyone agrees that Shoe is a big part of that. you got no idea what you are talking about do you?

[@dscrappylocogolani9555]

​@@AmnesiaTanner someone needed to say that out loud. Yeah, man, very disappointed.

[@lz2012]

@@arunashamal You think a shoe make you run better??? You are exactly who Nike markets to.

[@arunashamal]

@@lz2012 yes. That alphafly shoe makes you run better and that’s why every other manufacturers race to do a high stack carbon fiber shoe. ask anyone who runs they’ll tell you. Jesus bro you cannot be this ignorant.

[@Bully____Maguire]

The Pegasus made it's reputation for being Nike's most boring but reliable daily trainer, because it's so versatile any runner from beginner to expert level can benefit from it. While I agree with everything said about Nike in this video, you picked THE model that's appreciated for not being innovative and instead being a tried and true classic.

[@arunashamal]

that is his strategy tho. Talk bad about good products for utube adbux!

[@SiopaoSauc3]

Maybe should have looked at a Pegasus Plus or something? A running shoe series could be tricky. Try ey could have just started with all daily trainers but you get a random s-lab shoe in there. Also no Adidas. Puma or Asics.

[@pahlevymu]

Agree with you, but i think the price is the issue in here. It’s okay to be boring and not innovative, but their price are insane for its material and old tech.

[@arunashamal]

@@pahlevymu pegs are cheaper than direct competitors from Brooks, NB, Hoka and Saucony etc.. What are you talking about?

[@markanstrom2981]

My next pair of running shoes will likely be Brooks or NB. Not because I think they're more stylish, but because Nike stopped making shoes in B width. You'd think that with the plethora of models shoe companies make available in wide widths, they'd keep even *one* still available for those of us with narrow feet. Nope.

[@TheSara200424]

The new balance soles are soft and don't last long if your a road runner brooks has a harder sole, I've went through a few of the nb running shoes until I changed 🤔👍

[@chicano4041]

The tech is fine... awesome actually. The problem with Nike is their designs are simply boring and uninspiring. Look at the lacing system and lacing loop overlays. How many times are they going to use that same boxy design? Same with the actual shoe overlays. They're just kind of there and functional but they're not "fun". Whereas something like the Asics Novablast 4 overlays are wavy and have actual physical texture and patterns that make the shoe look exciting and stylish while still serving as strong structural support. Nike is just stale. Get new and fun designs and stick to the foams and zoom and Nike will rebound.

[@IAmInfinitus208]

Exactly. The tech, especially Zoom Air and ZoomX, have been Nike's best cushioning techs. Like you said, their designwork needs improvement.

[@JJ-zr6fu]

Nikes tech is the comparable to everyone else’s but the big problem for them is they price it way higher than everyone else. Basically if you pay for a lower tier Nike shoe you’re getting a horrible shoe.

[@MuiKaHo]

nike tech is definitely not comparable at higher end ones. the lower end sure. there is reason why nike's running shoe was banned from competitions.

[@zt7088]

I think this was the wrong shoe to look to for really special innovation. Pegasus has always been the kind of “classic” running shoe. Pretty ordinary colorways and standard cushioning. They’re trusty, able to go for a long time, get beat up and dirty, then get tossed at 300-400 miles. Nobody in the running community that I’m aware of really looks to the Peg to be anything mind blowing.

[@dnawei1o121]

Good thing this was addressed in the video!

[@zt7088]

Kinda I guess? They paid some lip service to it being an everyday shoe and being this wrong one, but kept asking where the innovation was. They’re showing images of Puma’s super shoe, Hoka Mach X, and other carbon plated shoes. Why cut this one open then? If it was to help you pick the best average runner, maybe, but that wasn’t evident.

[@dnawei1o121]

@@zt7088 They literally say this is the everyday trainer that isn't known for innovation, and this is not what is losing their customer base. It is their failure to connect with hobby joggers.

[@kevinjhonson5925]

Always was overpriced garbage was when I was a kid in the 80,90s still are.

[@thommyrubin1866]

My choice of running shoes is Asics Kayano. Very good running shoe for me because I have a slight overpronation. Choose a running shoe based on your own preferences before choosing a specific shoe brand. It will make wonders for your running workout.

[@hansink]

If I was bonafide fast with running, I would consider Nike supershoes. But as a amateur, I care more deeply about stability, tracking and shock absorbtion. And for those specifics, there are better options. Running is more populair than ever, Nike should be selling like hot cakes!

[@blackguardunlimeted]

I have a pair of pegasus 41, I use them at the gym: they are amazing for running, I come from a pair of nike pegasus shield 38, in the past I always had a lot of nike running shoes, I loved, the now dead "downshifter" line, but today there are so many options, I also have asics and adidas sneakers for perfomance and running in general ... and I think this is good for us. They are forced to keep on pushing on new tech., a good challenge is good for everybody !

[@rothgonch1174]

true. the challenge is to feel confy feet and let the brands make better options, is an example , saucony the intro line, is few known, and by using it is similar to a better New ballance or nefty salomon.s more techy ones but,, always u know a pair of nike's will work ever,,, and if u are metoculous, ucould find techy nikes ondiscounts. so... its an open door of options. and just let feet choose

[@justinpatrickhoffman]

In all fairness, the Nike Pegasus has been around for about 41 years. It’s a basic workhorse running shoe. They have their customer / fan base already setup. I think they want to make small incremental changes to the shoe in order to maintain their fan base. It’s kind of like “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

[@rothgonch1174]

true i had my first pegasus 90;;; and is the best sensation i ever had, since ever i tried many many others and also these the peg 90 is a non back retro actually, cause the elements on these were real well made pair of and materials, and tech, and 35 years or more ago,so the actual pegs have a big heavy weight to carry to keep happy our niche. and is alwys well received a new of nike pegassus.!

[@Tang-qi6zw]

Bit of a correction, but Nike didn't start their innovations for the supershoes, they just took them the farthest and to the largest market. The first carbon plated running shoe was the Brooks Fusion in 1991, which they called their propulsion system. Then the high response foams was the biggest push by Adidas/Puma (really the petroleum company they contracted) in 2013. The Nike Vaporfly was introduced in 2016. No company pushed shoe technology as far as Nike did to the point that they influence running shoe regulations for competition, but they didn't start these technologies. Even at the start, Blue Ribbon Sports was re-selling Onitsuka Tiger shoes as cheap running shoes compared to New Balance's offerings. The Cortez wasn't much different from the Mexico. Then Nike got its two big innovations in the 1970s: Air and the waffle sole. Why is Nike losing share? For apparel, they have pretty middle quality but some of the highest price. When lululemon is more expensive, it's just better apparel. Adidas really invested to be stylish, for shoes and clothing really doing those artist collabs. Then Nike doesn't even put themselves in your local running store. You go there, and you see Brooks, Hoka, and Altra mostly. Then On, Saucony, Solomon, and Icebug if they have space. Nike has put themselves into large chain sports stores like Dick's (there isn't even a Dick's in every state), which limits their visibility to runners. People also want to try on shoes before buying them, usually. So that really prevents their sale. Then it's been forever since the running regulations were changed by Nike's marathon shoe advancements, so they've lost the huge boost in popularity by pushing an official sub-2 hour marathon (current official record is 2:00:35 set October 2023 at Chicago), and it's been time since the unofficial sub-2 marathon with the pacers done so it didn't count. Since Covid forced online purchases, and Nike has the best marketing, they also got an artificially high boost to their sales at that time. So a shrink was inevitable. I use Saucony as my race shoe, because it has a stiff carbon plate and responsive foam that's like boost. But it's cheaper than other racing shoes, and I can get last year's model less than half price at my local running store.

[@mylesgalos6465]

A saucony guy too

[@rantanamo]

People are doing what people do: They see something new and they trend it. There's no difference technology or innovation gap. These foams are all similar, uppers are made of similar material. They're all using plastic or carbon plates on ridiculous stack heights. Not to mention, the price stuff is cap. All of these brands are similar in price per the category of shoes. Ventilation is similar, weight is similar. Not sure what is so dead about their foam compared to others. Trust, I go through a lot of running shoes, and outside of NB Fuel Cell, there's a lot of Cap going on. Not to mention Nike is still beating all of these brands in sales. The talk is the loss of market share. I agree they are stretched to thin as a brand, but a lot of this talk is bologna. How many shoe reviews do I see complaining that Nike doesn't have something. When they do have it(or already had it), its dead or doesn't work in that case. Trendiness strikes again. These shoes are all the damn same.

[@conke7765]

Problem with nike is that when they make the perfect shoe, they just do it for a year and move on to a new one. They dont give the shoes time to cement themselves anymore.

[@shgenergy]

To be fair, the pegasus has never been a shoe where nike tries to push any new tech or be super advanced with. It's supposed to be a reliable daily runner and it has a pretty big following for being so consistent. The price hike to $140 is what bothers me more, getting to the point where its not really an affordable option

[@watchreport]

If you are smart you never pay $140. They all go on sale and will eventually be on sale plus 25% on the Nike app. I’ve bought all my Nikes from the app, metcons, Pegasus, Pegasus trail etc, and have never paid full price. I bought a pair of Pegasus trail 4 last year for $78. And in May of last year a pair of Pegasus 39 for $62

[@daniel-qs5sz]

New balance, Hoka, brooks, ASICS, saucony, are killing Nike, Nike always have small tight shoes more and more people want wider shoes. The only one using Nike shoes are professional athletes.

[@francisportugal5584]

Same here. Those brands are now becoming my new brands for my next shoes.

[@kshere]

The wide part is so true

[@oliverato]

yeah, for "normal" people brands like NB, Asics, Hoka are more than enough, and the thing about the names of technologies the video is spot on, Im a sucker for Asics, but even I cant remember all the new stuff that they are doing, even when the names are simplier, oh a new type of foam, they compare it to the old one and change the name in a way that you can tell the difference, with Nike I dont know even what the fuck is going on with speed react% plus zoom, like come on.

[@Bully____Maguire]

While it is true that Nike's regular width shoes are very narrow, especially in the toe box area. They also do offer wide and extra wide versions, albeit mostly exclusively for their running shoes. The shoe in this video (the pegasus) also comes in 2E (wide)/4E (extra wide) and is comparable in comfortability to the wide width offerings of those other brands you mentioned, except Saucony. They only offer one 4E shoe, the Echelon 9. Which is probably their least popular model. While the pegasus is often referred to as Nike's most known running shoe, with the exception of the Vaporfly's. So imo Saucony is the most guilty for making narrow shoes out of all the brands you mentioned.

[@heybrowhatup]

Most of those brands have been around forever so that’s not it. People are tired of Nike’s declining quality which is forcing people to reconsider the other brands.

[@ThomasWake1]

Even Puma makes better running shoes than Nike now. But ya know ppl go for the hype.

[@tomr164]

And not just running shoes, they've made some really decent ones recently.

[@JULIANOPGPR]

At least here where I live Nike shoes are to expensive to be running shoes, I can get a Adidas that will be half the price, its more comfortable and I wont care if it gets dirty.

[@ReyDereli]

It is funny that you haven't mention Adidas in the video which is the biggest competitor of Nike for running division that still do innovation. I think the main reason the sales down is Nike recently has too many options with terrible value. For most people Nike products are not the first choice when you are looking for a premium super shoe anymore. As a person who owns lots of running shoes (also several Nikes), I find myself mostly looking for a different brand for lower price that usually exists whenever I'm shopping.

[@skrrtcocain]

Especially since Adidas is the one that has been winning top competitions lately.

[@heybrowhatup]

Adidas has been living off of Ultra Boost for years which people are over it.

[@shouka916]

@@heybrowhatup in their running shoe lineup they don't use ultraboost for a long time already they use lightstrike and lightstrike pro

[@shouka916]

​@@heybrowhatup Nope they do not use ultraboost foam in their Adizero Running lineup for a long time already. Only shoes that use those are mostly for lifestyle models.

[@heybrowhatup]

@@shouka916 yeah nobody is buying their other shoes dude.

[@keno9964]

Too expensive

[@jasonvandagriff2691]

You picked the perfect shoe to explain their downfall as king. The Pegasus is Nike’s daily trainer, now compare it to daily trainers from New Balance, ASICS, Saucony, Hoka and others. Nike is boring, not as comfortable and not as innovative in the daily trainer market which should be a running shoe company’s best seller.

[@kfung4]

nike still produce product with new tech, but only in their top tier super shoe line, and Pegasus 41is more like entry level everyday running shoe. I believe they are losing market share its due to their pricing strategy, they are charging so much more for the same tier running shoes. And for actual runner, tits common that good performance shoes which only last around 600km, so they basically have to purchase a new pair every season, and those expenses add-up.

[@mkittappa]

I go to a free running club at a local brewery every week. From time to time running shoe companies will come by with shoes that we can try out on our weekly 5k run. I’ve been able to run rest so many different shoes from all the manufacturers, except Nike. Nike never visits to demo their products. Nike’s competitors are getting out meeting and engaging the local running communities, while Nike is sitting back and relying on their past glory to sell their shoes.

[@CT37BN]

Midsole, midsole, midsole.. competition has moved ahead of Nike especially in the mid-to-low tier in running, trail sneakers. They dominated the top tier for awhile but now their competitors have crept up and seems to have taken that mantle.

[@bffmrk]

Nike has just been riding it's name and doesnt change for shit.

[@jorge23483]

It’s like: “C’mon, we are Nike”… Sheer F’ing hubris.

[@stilllife8]

For me a big thing is that Nike's running shoes don't last very long. I think that they use a softer foam than some of their competitors and it compresses and wears out so quickly that I would only get a couple of months of running from their shoes, and the shoes are expensive to replace. I get 2x the distance out of Asics than I do out of Nike with the same amount of comfort and for less money. Maybe the Asics aren't as performance oriented, but as a consumer who runs for health reasons rather than for racing the actual race performance of my shoes matters a lot less than comfort, price, and durability.

[@mylesgalos6465]

Agree 100%, low quality, poor outsoles mostly

[@victortillamillamonster4083]

All that being said, these are my favorite shoes out there. Incredibly breathable, daily foot pain gone. Ready to go on a sprint at any moment and the color choices are phenomenal. However, I'm talking about the Pegasus 39,40s. Not much difference it looks like between 40 and 41. Price wise they go on sale for like 70 a couple of times of year. U can't beat that for such a workhorse running shoe.

[@HEMAYATC]

As a runner who has been wearing Pegasus since 2012 (Peg 28), I wholeheartedly agree with Colin. Nike is certainly an innovator, but the problem is other brands have caught uo and improved on the tech that Nike pioneered. In the meantime, newer, less known brands have been working harder to connect with communities and provide septic products while Nike has been churning out shoes in a business as usual way. Finally, generally a lot of people tend to start out with Nike as it is a well known brand and over time gravitate to a a different brand that better suits their needs (example, Altras have wide toe boxes, Hokas have more cushioning,Brooks have more structure etc etc).

[@jorge23483]

My uncle’s generation still grew up with Nike runners and the first Basketball shoes, and I grew up up with the larger than life MJ, Shaq and the other legends of basketball making Nike the brand to be one of cool kids. I’m personally more into Adidas and I really enjoy the NMD line so far as a lifestyle shoe. I think brands like Adidas and Nike are reaching too far and lost sight for their core markets.

[@nikeiddude123]

Im a huge nike fan and avid consumer. From my perspective they don’t take into account the communities, they have been extremely money hungry and always shooting for profit. And they don’t want to innovate when they don’t have to. They know they can keep selling the same shoes from 40 years ago and it keeps the company stable. I think if they took more risks and innovated something radically new they could capture the essence of what the company was in its peak. A performance footwear company. I hope with this change of leadership the company moves forward and strives for excellency.

[@dagttv]

Nike has such an incredible history as an American shoe company. But they waded far too deep into the low-cost-high-price deep end. Quality dropped while prices went higher. Not a winning combination and puts a lot of pressure on brand loyalty & image. They need to take a few serious executive pay cuts to improve material quality or lower price. Alas it might not happen until the economy bounces back. I am rooting for them-they push other emerging brands to be more creative in the free market of ideas.

[@veranfung432]

nike running shoes really uncomfortable to run with

[@chosun1]

Nike only cares about milking money from retro sales now and no longer making anything fresh or cool. Their marketing strategy is also not relevant anymore. Endless limited releases on SNKRS app only feel into the resell market and doesn't actually give true fans the ability to get what they want. Take Kobes for example...REAL Kobe fans just want stuff released so they can go buy them in the stores but instead it's all hype SNKRS releases which will end up on StockX for 500% markup. What does Nike get from that? Nothing. They still only get the MSRP on the limited amount they released and at this point the real fans are just fed up with this tactic and moved on.

[@Apollo-Computers]

Yea I've never understood that. Unless they put half the stock on those markets themselves....

[@rothgonch1174]

true, more vigorous models are only on SNKRS, but thats the plan, if u are a real sneackerhead, will find them , but if not, the comercial stuff, will be vailable as common items, but... also others brandsas adidas, are not well in quality but costs are up higher and les durables ones at least Nikes always keeps quality in a standar of 80% and thats the stock x why selll still retros and Og ones, cause Nikes lasts. even if used ones.

[@chosun1]

@@rothgonch1174 Sadly the quality has gone downhill over the years. Lots of cheap leather or even fake leather. smaller air bags....bad quality control. All that yet the MSRP is higher each year for the same Dunks or AF1s.

[@mainsourcery]

Nike track spike shoes are great……but most people don’t sprint, because they can’t sprint. Then they end up going on sale for almost half off. More money saved for me 💰

[@StealthNinja4577]

As a normie that buys sneakers once the old ones wear out and wants at least a couple years out of a pair... I just want a normal looking shoe with no weird heel in normal colors to match my lifestyle of walking but sometimes needing to run and standing a lot. Got some pair of Nikes back in 2013 and felt like I aged 50 years with intense knee pain. Got something more traditional 90s looking nike sneaker and it went away immediately.

[@massie27]

It would be cool to do a comparison of the "super shoes" since a lot of them are interesting in their construction and ability to be reused if that is even possible. Most of the super shoes are only meant to last for the length of a marathon and this is because the plate material in nearly all of them is built to be as light as possible but able to withstand withiut failure the 26.2 mile race (and warm up before it)

[@felicianosotelo-spence1881]

I think looking at the crazy foams of these running brands would be cool like the hyperion from brooks plus others would be very interesting

[@benjaminzaoui9683]

So many contradictory statements and a fundamental misunderstanding of the performance running shoe space. Oh, and that guy isn't a runner.

[@hunterlord101]

I have a pair of these and tbh theyre pretty comfy as general walking shoes. Much better than the Jordans id been largely wearing.

[@javierlandaverde4108]

Quick note: John Donahoe left Nike. They got a new CEO.

[@qu3nt]

the video was probably shot before he stepped down

[@Tennesseemontana]

Break down the new balance rebel v4! It’s probably the most popular running shoe of the year!

[@CatalystOfFire]

Everything they know, they stole from better companies.

[@KenzieTrinityDeasy]

Glad I don’t wear running shoes but I still love Nike. I wear mainly SB & AJs

[@jonathansvoboda1006]

Actually my Addidas Ultraboosts feel pretty nice to me. I don't usually buy Nikes.

[@CamdenAshton-p2v]

You should cut in half the off white af1 mid super weird shoe

[@will.davlin]

Koston 1's🟫

[@JaySee5]

Nike started as knock-off Onitsuka Tigers aka the Nike Cortez.

[@rothgonch1174]

true , 40 amost 50 years back... but now. are leader by xperience, and i got the chance to go to london nike store, and was inside a team of cientifics. true people. asking normal uses and materials and things, and showing up new tendencies tech etc, and was so warming for a brand, that keep their market happy and felling a difference, about other brands that only sell and sell. by their pop stars. and its weird. but will see who keeps the king corona

[@TheKryptokat]

FYI my Extra Wide Pegasus 41 has the same toe box as my Lems Primal Zens of the same size. This is boring innovation keeps me a loyal customer. I kept checking all the other brands when the extra wide 40s disappeared but getting a flagship running shoe in extra wide is limited to Nike for the moment (at least in my area).

[@RandomPerson-op1bq]

As someone else said, this is their pegasus, the least inovated running shoe by nike, because people like the basic style, its lightweight, relatively responsive and its universally known. If your looking for other nike trainers look at the vomero, invincible and pegasus plus. Their racing shoes are also very impressive and intresting.

[@roush26]

This reminds me of auto enthusiasts and they're hatred of Toyota. "Toyota is bland, it's boring, no innovation, more appliance than car." Toyota is one of the last to adopt new technologies and will use old reliable tech for decades into their new models. Toyota makes cars for the consumer, not auto enthusiasts, theirs a difference. You remind me of a shoe enthusiast complaining about a shoe that's gonna work for average people just fine.

[@USSJeff]

Where I am in Canada you can't even buy Nike running shoes in our running stores. It has been like that for over 5 years. If I wanted a pair of Pegasus 41s I'd have to order them from their website.

[@קלנועיותצרעה]

I train and regularly run half marathons. Nike shoes are the most beautiful They are also comfortable and nice But they never last me more than 500 km. Brooks and Oncloud are just as good if not better and last significantly more than 500 km. The air unit itself and the carbon plate - are just marketing bullshit

[@marmot4585]

Important note on why they're losing market share is that during/post-covid Nike's strategy was to move away from in store presence in favor of online sales. Though it worked at first, leaving store shelves open to their competitors has seeped away market share from Nike. And now the Nike CEO is reversing their decision and trying to get their shoes back in stores

[@rustedplastic]

Can you review some onitsuka tigers nippon made mexico 66s? They're what started Nike.

[@JaySee5]

The VaporFly came about from Nike creating Zoom X foam to compete with Adidas Boost foam and all the other brands also trying to compete with Adidas Boost.

[@tslash93]

When I was a sales rep from nike, I've stumbled upon a pegasus 34 that was girl sized and it didn't had the front zoom unit. Nike seperate the girl's and women's shoes with different product numbers, and I've always thought that the main difference was the color's and sizes, but at least at the time there was some major structural differences that were not advirtised. Also important to note that the girl's sizes were cheaper, even of the same size was available for woman.

[@PaytonGuthrie]

I’m also an ultra runner. Usually one of the only people wearing Nike at 100k/100 milers. Running have (generally) an attitude of being on the edges. People call us crazy. So I don’t know if wearing a shoe brand that is monocultural resonates with that crowd. Why wear a “dad shoe” (not the cool dad shoes) when you can wear something that’s slightly off the mainstream?

[@ChrisRobato]

Nike has great running shoes even if it does look a bit boring with Zoom and X this and that. But I don't think thats the problem. The problem is Nike's over engagement with retros, so people thnk of Nike they only think of Jordans, shoes with balloons on heels, Dunks, hip shoes and so on. Guess which brands aren't selling retros, because they are too young to do so --- On and Hoka. The young guys on the block gathering market share. Not saying Nike is alone on overengagement with retros. This can potentially hurt other brands too in the long run, with Adidas with its Sambas, and New Balance with its Dad shoes. NB though has done a reverse turn by pushing its Fresh Foam X and Fuel Cell shoes but time will tell if this about turn is enough. Asics did the wise thing by throwing much of its legacy shoes into the Onitsuka Tiger brand, keeping its more modern and running brand separate. Another area where Nike missed was the trails department despite having excellent shoes in the Pegasus Trail and Vergama. The sudden upsurge of hiking, trail running and Gorcorp fashion trends pushed brands like Salomon to the spotlight. Your channel has been cutting up hiking and trail running footwear left and right but how many of these were Nike's?

[@teng029]

I don't think I've ever heard anyone else describe ZoomX foam as feeling dead before now. Bouncy, soft, and unstable, yes. But dead? That's a first.

[@od1452]

yes, I've noticed Companies don't really say why they believe in there shoes anymore.... just hype... Nike is not the worst offender though.

[@sutach]

every model of pegasus is quite solid choice for every neutral pronated runner, why they should change it? They have new series like invincible for that and of course supershoes like vaporfly and aplhafly

[@CherryAlias]

Ever since Nike came out with Flyknit I feel like they’ve just piggybacked off simply implementing the same designs with these fabrics. I used to always find a Nike shoe in even retail stores where I would be like I gotta have that pair it’s so clean. Now the designs haven’t changed in like 10 years, the colorways are trash, and on top of it the shoes are either too crazy or too boring on even their premium lines/SNKRS

[@AD-mo5sg]

I wear Pegasus 39 and have no complaints about them. That being said, I also love collecting retro Jordans and my biggest pet peeve is the lack of innovation in terms of comfort in their old models. Just give me a comfortable Jordan 4 or 3, especially a 1 without making them look weird!

[@zeroelus]

The community aspect is something that caught my attention too. You buy Nikes? Cool. Oh but here’s this on event you can go and run to, and asics just finished an instagram livestream and they had a fun event and so on, never see anything like that for Nike. They have a lot of stores, so they could do something I’m sure. And regarding the Pegasus it makes sense what was commented that it’s their conservative bread and butter line. I bought the 39s and loved them, ran one pair into the ground and bought another pair “with premium “ materials but on sale when the 40s where out. Bought some 40s similarly when the 41s came out…but they feel so different. It’s something similar I read about the 39 when they came out, and now I see what they mean. While I use those as day to day shoes and trainers, I mostly focus on playing tennis and it’s the same story with their tennis shoe line. The same “name” model has different attributes, and they might reissue those models but you have to wait for a drop. I couldn’t wait for those shenanigans when my former Nikes gave out and bought some asics. I loved them and the gel resolution line is popular for being mostly consistent, so I know whenever these give up, I can just buy some new ones and be done with it. I’ll probably switch to them once my current pegs give up.

[@birdytiger]

I'm wearing pegasus right now. I can usually pick up a last gen pair for like, 50-60 buck. But if I was paying full price, yeah, I'd be elsewhere

[@overlycaffeinated2395]

Personally, the shoes are too expensive and have a high chance of giving me blisters (because of the narrow toebox). Also, it feels like nikes overall quality has been declining, their workout clothes are not worth the price at all.

[@kayneharker3348]

Would absolutely love to see some asics, I have switched from new balance shoes which I loved, but tried some asics out and loved them. I'm not too sure if it's me or what but I now have 3 different pairs and they just fit and feel amazing, and the quality is a 10 on all of them

[@tf4927]

Nike / jordans lifestyle models became so popular I think ppl associate uncomfortable retros with them more than cutting edge runners

[@CastorTroy30]

Forget about the running shoes. Just look at their Basketball shoes. It’s literally the same re-hash of the same silhouette. Retro Jordan this and that. Same thing with Kobe’s, all their shoes look THE SAME.

[@driver8sk]

The last pair of Nike's I bought started squeaking after a month. I can't remember the last time even a cheap pair of sneaks did that to me. Thought I'd branch out from New Balance, but relegating a month old pair of shoes to yardwork cured me of that.

[@casperv9548]

How can they say nike isn't making new technology when the alphaflys got banned from competition because the technology was giving people un unfair advantage

[@lz2012]

Of course it doesn't help when only 10% of the shoe designers and peripheral product teams actually run at all let alone ever competed. There is actually a wooded running course open on the street not fenced but owned by Nike that has signs everywhere that only nike products are allowed on the course, so technically it's not closed to the public but you have to wear nike to be on it???

[@datharo5]

Last really comfy Pegasus sneaker I've worn is the 36. But i think it's because it used full length zoom air with cushlon foam. It honestly melts my heart when i see the 36/35 on people's feet

[@cafenightster4548]

Nikes are ok, they have nice looking shoes. The shoes that I bought for running 4 miles every other day, they never lasted more than 4 months. The one I'm wearing rn now are New Balance runners that are discounted.

[@edword7195]

I am not sure its innovation that is the issue. It may be the last few versions have not been well liked. Its not a tech issue if they were the same as ones 5 years ago people may like. Its that they made it a slower shoe. It was the same with New Balance v13 a slower shoe than V12 which is less well liked. They change them yearly but not always for the better. Some years changes may be tech drive but some may be market re positioning and also change for changes sake to support the activity of staff which can lose sales as most people would rather buy the last shoe they had if going for a new one. My issue with Nike is that they don't fit me that well I used to wear thick socks but as New Balance fits me better I buy these when can get at a fair price. I will buy a new peg for winter as with a thick sock

[@Sandshrewzz]

Nike has definitely be falling behind incomparison to other shoe brands. I am a runner and I've worn lots of shoes over the years. Nike should learn some tips from Adidas, there are ways to market and also innovate.

[@matebodnar6881]

in running for different types of runs you need different types of shoe, for example the pegasus is not a raceday shoe, its a trainer, so it does not need to have a carbon plate bc you could not build feet strength if you would run in carbon shoes everyday, so they have a trainer the pegasus, and raceday shoes like vapor and alphafly where they show the tech bc a raceday shoe needs to be as fast as possible with little energy used, but you need to have a more protective shoe which pushes you to put more energy into your train runs like the pegasus

[@SiopaoSauc3]

Some comments for if you ever do more running shoe content. It would be nice to see running b-roll. How many miles/km you did in the shoes before cutting them in half. what kind of runs were done and even a quick stats for the test runner would be useful.

[@gtc1554]

Cant wait until Americans start realizing that small toe boxes are fashion and media based. Lots of European footwear companies make wider toebox shoes bc thats how humans natural feet are. And they arent those bad minimalist barefoot shoes, but actually good shoes but with the natural foot shape in mind like how all shoes should be.

[@elijahmodnar1]

but when those pegasus get the obligatory 25% discount (birthday-month) then they have no peer!

[@iorichew]

pegasus 41 this model big upgrade, nike use old tech but get better performance enjoy this model. some brands make a new tech name but performance is same like old tech, most model running shoes same like Iphone every years make a same production to customer.

[@TrekRidley]

Its hard to comment on Nike alone as a running shoe brand if you do not test and run on all comparable models.. Pretty sweeping statements huh?..

[@atmavictu2995]

They jacked up their prices so much for no quality improvement... people simply got tired of being ripped off

[@GustavoCastro-f5h]

You know what's killin Nike? Those uppers...atrocious, look at the last invincible, compare it to any brooks

[@robertosakai1460]

It is simple, New Balance, Asics and Hoka have better $140 shoes than Pegasus 41.

[@HeatLedgerKicks]

Nike retail prices have been steadily increasing. I can get 2 asics 1130 for the same price.

[@TrekRidley]

Hey Rose Anvil, Review the Alphafly 3..then get back at your comments about Nike

[@kiLLinEmSoFTly]

I don't get it. What groundbreaking technology have the other companies introduced that Nike didn't already have?

[@vaxick]

For me, Nike makes road shoes with too high of a drop and for the Pegasus in particular, it's always had much too narrow of a toebox for comfort.

[@MyManD]

I think you need to add a shank/speed plate category as well, because shanks are so important for a running shoe and the fact that these seemingly don't have one is a crime.

[@flaminguo]

Complacency costs them, too big to fail attitude I guess. They expect you to buy them because they have a swoosh 😂

[@gravelDave]

The truth is that sustainability is probably 2% of a buying decision. It seems that Nike think its 50%.

[@3clubforever]

If this is their main running shoe then it’s easy to see why they are losing popularity. This thing is boring. Nothing cool about it at all. Looks super bland

[@vitorpanca4832]

In Brazil they lost a lot of space to Olympikus (national make), Fila, New Balance and Asics

[@BG-fc3em]

I like how he mentioned the vaporflys and how cool they are in the intro. lol Doesn't Nike make those ? 🤔 jkjk I dont want to defend Nike

[@julienansay2979]

I like your comment on Nike is obsessed by images, sponsorship and e-commence … and do forget about their products