Rosie Jones On Renting In A Wheelchair | Joe Lycett's Got Your Back

[@blairehannan5878]

Thank you so much channel 4 and Rosie to raising awareness. I’m a wheelchair user and am 31 and have to live into my parents garage because their is no accessible places to rent. The council won’t help, (only if I have kids) and I have to buy a place of my own and then adapt it. Thanks for raising awareness on this issue!

[@Christopher_S]

Yep. I'm registered disabled too, and my council will only let me into a bungalow if one of my kids were disabled. Moving around a 3 bed house is impossible at times. I was stuck living in the living room last year, and this I've been stuck upstairs. Welcome to Britain.

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

I think wheelchair accessibility should be a standard requirement in all new build houses. When my parents built their house the doorways, light switches and power outlet points had to conform to accessibility regulations.

[@aaroncousins4750]

@@psychedelicpegasus7587 but there isnt enough demand for disabled accommodation to make all new builds accessible, a single accessible room in each new apparentment would suffice

[@dusssss631]

And how do they expect you to start this family to reach the required children whilst living with your parents.

[@hannahlack1061]

​@@aaroncousins4750 uhhh.... what's the point in renting a house if you can only use one room? Disabled people can cook food so they should be able to get into their kitchen, plus go to the bathroom plus it's not ideal to spend all day in your bedroom especially if you have guests (because disabled people can have friends) so really the whole apartment: bedroom, kitchen, bathroom and living room should be accessible.

[@silversleeper1193]

"... you are very perceptive." I love Rosie; she's always such a riot.

[@calonkat]

Anyone can need accessible housing, whether on a short term or long term basis. The healthiest person can slip. Accessible housing is important for all.

[@coldpuck]

Ikr. All houses should have a standard to be very acessable or flexable for acessability additions. It shouldnt be a specialty or afterthought, it should be STandard.

[@nhorsey12horses]

This is a very solid point, when I broke my ankle this summer I realized just how inaccessible my house was even as a single story, since a wheelchair couldn't fit down the hallways. If I wasn't otherwise young and fit I literally couldn't have gone to the bathroom. I had to hop 10+ ft to reach it

[@notthere83]

I’m surprised that that isn’t already a thing. After all, there are filters for “garden” and “parking”. One more box to tick for “wheelchair accessible” surely wouldn’t be a ton of effort both for the website devs and estate agents?

[@roseduste80]

It's not the website coding that's the effort, it's having someone check the property with accessibility in mind. Agents are very lazy. I'd expect to see them tick the box because a property has no stairs, without giving any thought to if the doorways are wide enough or if there's enough space to get a wheelchair next to the toilet.

[@psychoblack1411]

all hospitals and places for these people have wheelchair access already ..? also a ramp costs very little to pop up on the door if they can have a house when they need to go out to there appointments ?

[@jolienvsndijk]

@@psychoblack1411 A ramp is only one small part of making a property wheelchair accessible like you saw in the video so I'm not sure what your point is? And "all places for these people"? You do know that disabled people are just regular people who go to regular places like shops, work places, schools, bars, concerts, movies, etc.

[@psychoblack1411]

yes i know they have to go to shops and do regular stuff lol ..but a perfect world they wouldnt have to ..there would be enough money to have a carer for every one so they dont have to struggle and can ask them to go to the shops for them

[@Harrison_J_T]

@@psychoblack1411 But that's not accessibility, that's forcing them to be housebound. They're like everyone else, they have lives and want to live them as independently as possible. Some wheelchair users will have and need carers but that's not the case for all of them.

[@UKReloader]

I know that feeling. I had an accident at work and have been stuck upstairs in my house for 3 years, as I'm in a wheelchair and we only have a toilet upstairs. Luckily I have my wife who cares for me. She had to give up work. Luckily my council are finally doing something to help, and are going to knock my garage down and build a downstairs bedroom and bathroom, and adjust all the doors so I can get to the kitchen and garden and outside. But I have been on the waiting list for 2 years now. Planning has just been put in, I have to wait 8 weeks for that, then I have to go through the whole grant process, then tender out to builders for the work, then actually have it built. So I reckon it won't be far off another year before it's built. I haven't been outside in 3 years now, haven't even worn a pair of shoes in 3 years. If I have friends come to see me (very rare) they have to lie on the bed with me as there's nowhere else for them to sit. Life being disabled is tough.

[@thegreatsalad]

I liked your comment, not because I "like" your situation, but so that more people can see it. I really hope that things will progress smoothly with the downstairs works 🙏

[@connor1577]

I hope everything gets sorted for you!

[@KaylaRequiem]

Are your stairs not wide enough etc to install one of those chair lifts? or is money an issue for that? Just genuinely curious, 3 years sucks sucks being stuck like that, I'm sorry you've had whatever accident you had, I'm happy you have a wife that has lovingly stuck by your side though.

[@rainbomg]

@@KaylaRequiem I wanted to ask this same thing, I feel like the space available probably is too small. This is all wild to me as an American, bc by comparison our ADA compliance is pretty ubiquitous across the board. I know it’s not perfect but we definitely have a pretty good system in place with requirements, regulations, and resources for improving accessibility for businesses, residences and public places alike.

[@gunstarhero8028]

Hope you've been outside by now 😬

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Ironically, Channel 4 fails to subtitle this video about a lack of accessibility. They’re terrible about this.

[@rachelcookie321]

As someone with hearing problems I always have subtitles on and it makes me annoyed to see big companies that could easily add their own subtitles but choose not to.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

@@rachelcookie321 yeah, it’s not like they don’t _already_ make the subtitles for television. I’m sure they could convert it easily to whatever format KZbin uses.

[@KaylaRequiem]

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated It's just a script, you just type it in, worse even, you can probably just copy paste it into the closed caption editor, channel 4 are just lazy.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

@@KaylaRequiem I’m positive they could just copy it from the TV subtitles. You could automate the process with a little python script (script in _my_ comment referring to a computer program).

[@EricaGamet]

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated There are online conversion tools (free ones, even) to take the television CCs and make an .SRT file for KZbin... then you just upload that file. In the meantime, the built-in Chrome CCs are pretty good (not ideal, however).

[@WhiteWolf496]

I want a Claire and Rosie sitcom tbh.

[@laurawolf12]

"It's not ideal but life isn't ideal" omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sharonhill2602]

Sadly no accessible places are being built, it’s all houses and ones that are no use to the old or disabled. The uk is awful when it comes to disability needs.

[@why1itsme]

Same in US.

[@spinal_capped]

Fuck that’s disappointing. I’m hoping to move from the US to the UK, but my needs are not getting met.

[@videt7459]

@@why1itsme In actuality, the US is miles ahead of the UK on accessible housing, including but not limited to various federal and state requirements that a minimum percentage of multi-units under construction be ADA-compliant, older units provide "reasonable accommodation" modifications (ramps, etc.) by landlords, etc. That said, literally everything else about the US is worse than the UK/any other indstrialized nation, so /shrug/

[@flibbertygibbette]

This was a great segment, but I just want to point out the irony of a video skewering lack of accessibility with estate agents that doesn't have accurate captions. Do better, Channel 4.

[@masoncampbell971]

The CCs are generated by KZbin, their subtitle system needs work. You can watch the episode on All 4 with proper subtitles or audio description.

[@flibbertygibbette]

@@masoncampbell971 The problem is that they are relying on KZbin's caption system. Creators can upload custom captions, something Channel 4 certainly has the resources for but just hasn't bothered to make happen.

[@PimpMacSlickBac]

@@flibbertygibbette mate, they rely on their own CC's on their own platform. Don't ask one company to monitor another. What even could the solution be if KZbin refused, take Channel 4's KZbin channel down in protest?

[@PimpMacSlickBac]

@@masoncampbell971 Well said

[@flibbertygibbette]

@@PimpMacSlickBac Again, creators can upload their own captions. There's a whole step for it in the video upload process. It's incredibly ableist to say "well just go to this whole other platform" rather than make the fix here, where the issue is. AND... Channel 4 has uploaded custom captions on other videos, so clearly they *can*, they just *didn't* with this video.

[@HandlesAreStupid167]

Rosie Jones needs to be on more of these! She's so funny and fights for truly important causes!

[@Sophia-uc9qh]

There needs to be a law that new public housing builds and private new builds are accessible for all, I trained as an industrial designer and engineer, the features needed do not add a huge financial impact on the price of a build, it just takes engineers and designers to think and care also for the government to think and care! Unfortunately people don’t care from all aspects that’s why us people with disabilities are often cut out of normal life.

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

Nearly 20 years ago my Mum and Dad started to plan and build our home (in Ireland). The architect said there was a regulation that the door widths, light/appliance switches and plug heights all had to conform to accessibility standards. Recently my Dad developed a neurological disorder and will probably need mobility aids and/or a wheelchair. We're so fortunate my parents' house already has everything he requires to get around, including a downstairs shower room. My brothers are converting the smaller living room into a bedroom for Dad. Now we just have to get a ramp for the back door and we're sorted.

[@JustAnotherPerson4U]

I agree. This is why I say that ableism is still rampant in this country. it's systemic. Most people are not overtly ableist or think that they are doing anything. but they don't think about accessibility unless they have to, as in someone points it out (usually someone disabled). And even then they're like 'well, it just costs too much to make it accessible to EVERYONE.' So we'll make it usable for most people. This doesn't mean that I think people are automatically horrible, it's just frustrating how exclusive their way of thinking has been shaped. We need to bring up the future generation to have inclusive thinking. In general, the private rental market needs more regulation since most people are living in long-term rental accommodation now and have little chance of ever owning their own home. Some argue that private landlords should not be told what to do with their property. But if you're renting it out to the general public who for the most part you're not allowed to discriminate under the protected classes of the equality act (of which disability is in there), then landlords should be told what they can and can't allow, especially cos they're not living there. Some make sense like if a certain thing a tenant wants to bring will cause unreasonable damage or is a safety hazard etc.

[@GabeStrenke]

Rosie saying "Jesus" in an irritated tone killed me lol.

[@rachelcookie321]

Rosie seems great but I have bad hearing which makes it more difficult for me to understand what she’s saying so it would be great if you could add subtitles.

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

Agreed. Deafness, poor hearing, auditory processing issues... Folks with any of the above are denied access to this video about accessibility, and it's not on.

[@JoeBleasdaleReal]

“And I…hate her!” 😂😂😂😂😂

[@livh9994]

Blllleeeeeeaaaassddaaaaaalllleeee

[@OsamaSaeed972]

Rightmove describing this as a first “step” shows they didn’t really think out this response. Surely being able to search for accessible properties is entirely possible for them to deliver?

[@rachelcookie321]

I imagine it would be pretty simple for them to implement. And then when people post listings they can just check a box if it’s wheelchair accessible

[@rainbomg]

@@rachelcookie321 you’d be surprised, getting realtors to do anything practical or “tedious” like this is really difficult. At least here in America anyways. I used to do tech support for all of the real estate agents and brokers and their local realtors’ associations for all 50 US states. I’d help them add or search for listings, correct things, and navigate through the web based mls systems where they list and look for property. This is where they put in all the details for a place like how many bedrooms, vaulted ceilings, hardwood floors, central HVAC, skylight, septic or sewer, an HOA, etc. Wheelchair accessible (ADA compliant) was one of several checkable boxes for various accessibility features on every listing. This was either ignored or checked along with every single other box on the listing in order to gain the system and get their properties to come up no matter what someone searched for. I can without a doubt say that realtors are some of the dumbest people on the planet. It’s _very_ easy to become one and they have almost zero oversight. Dumb, lazy, self important and obstinate people. 9 times out of 10 they were furious that they couldn’t log in, but it was bc they were entering their passwords either with caps lock on or num lock off. I had a lady call me once saying her mls system “wasn’t working” and after many more vague answers to my questions I finally deduced that her _fckng computer was OFF_ her first thought when her screen was black and unresponsive wasn’t to check for power, it was to call the wrong helpdesk and be an absolute asshole for half an hour. No worries, I taught her how to turn it on eventually and she’s still brokering $800k home sales every week out in Arizona. 🙄

[@CHIrminsul]

My brother had Muscular dystrophy and was in a wheelchair. We rented. In one place my mother had to build a ramp herself (she did and considering she knew nothing about carpentry it was pretty good, but not a permanentsolution) it took over a year for the landlord to get a ramp (cement) put in. Another place it took begging to get ramps put in the development, including one on sidewalk by our house (Just one step unlike the last place that had like 10) so until we did we were using like a suitcase ramp. (America not the UK) still it is exceedingly difficult to find a place.

[@indiarobertson9906]

I’m a wheelchair user and finding somewhere to rent during second year was impossible

[@ellaGHqueen]

She’s a menace. Love it 😂😂😂

[@louiserose2609]

I love Rosie!! ❤

[@jetjohnston8164]

“A single bed for a single girl” 😂💀

[@TaxingIsThieving]

I might've guessed

[@jeaniebottle6758]

All new property should include accessible to provide both owners & visitors access. Hope the future is better for all.

[@BetterLifeAhead35]

I'm shocked by this. Apparently it's an area where America does it better. There are rules about elevators and ramps and accessibility for many apartments in the US

[@Princesspandapop]

Rosie is giving me Judy Garland! She looks so good!

[@countteddy]

my council were asked nearly a year ago to provide a ramp for myself and my friends to the front door, but its never happened just a list of excuses.

[@amberwinter4351]

Definitely more thought needs to be put into accessibility across all aspects of daily living. It's not just about having the filter option, it's also about the choice! Have you ever tried searching for an accessible holiday for example? Initially, you're presented with thousands of properties, then you tick the box for "accessible" properties and the "choice" plummets to two or three (if you're lucky!) I think that all properties should be made accessible, where practical. Anyone can become disabled at any time, at any age. It only takes one accident or one diagnosis of a neurological disease etc.

[@cdub5033]

I've experienced two sides of the coin. Firstly, I was severely disabled and could walk very short distances with crutches. Life was fine & manageable because I was mobile. Then I survived 2 Strokes, firstly a mild one then a week later a severe one that put me in a wheelchair & affected my speech (there's loads of other issues I won't bore you with). Everything changed. Turning my World into a Hell on Earth. From my perspective I've seen & experienced just how thoughtless and inconsiderate people really are. Sure, there's folk who really do care. Then there's the rest who avoid contact and really don't care and take advantage when it suits them. Even though they SAY they "help disabled" people, when they really don't. The hypocrisy is widespread. Yep, even by Nurses and other staff in Hospitals. Don't start me on Carers. A lot of them are ignorant to the point of being dangerous, with no business being near anyone frail or dependent. Often focused on their own conveniences and you as the "client" (who pays their wages), are the last thing on their minds. When in a Wheelchair, it's a whole world of frustration and exclusion. Taxi drivers take the mick by jacking their prices up 3 or 4 times. Without any safety straps or anything (totally illegal), and they get away with it because they know the Council will do nothing due to the Councils fear of being called "Racist" (the Taxi drivers are mainly lazy, unskilled Pakistani men where I live). I could write a Novel about all the injustices, blatant discrimination & intolerance on top of all the daily hardships that come with Wheelchair use. I won't. You absolutely will not believe it.

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

Having to deal with all of that sounds absolutely horrible... My mobility disability is far less immediately impactful (as in, I have to spend most of my life in bed, but can hop downstairs if necessary) but even I've experienced a lot of frustration with inaccessibility, so I can't imagine how much of a bloody pain it must be to navigate the world's very-much-active ignorance from a chair. A lot of people really don't get that society's attitude towards disability is almost always the part we struggle with the most, because it's part of every single piece of architecture and design in the world, let alone the actual people. That said, is it necessary to specify "lazy, unskilled" as part of referring to the race of those taxi drivers? Even if all of those descriptors are true in isolation (and not safely providing accessibility definitely warrants an insult or two) the phrasing plays into an all-too-prevalent stereotype of South Asian folks that can be pretty harmful. I'd recommend writing that novel. People need to hear this stuff, and having it be where they can't so easily look away is always good.

[@Andrew-el8xi]

Fareplay to Rosie she's got so much determination..

[@13emilygoo]

the fact that there is generated closed captions on this video almost makes it seems like channel 4 missed the point

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

+1 for sure

[@NiceDonkey3417]

In some of those apartments defense, non-wheelchair people would also have a hard time maneuvering. Did they really call that closet a kitchen?

[@clockworkkirlia7475]

Hey, look, another comment about the captions! They're still not fixed! Making this video about accessibility super inaccessible! Fix it, 4!

[@coldpuck]

SUB. TITLES. SUBTITLES. Thumbs down the video for them to get the hint?

[@linebrunelle1004]

Canadian Icon, Rick Hansen has been working tirelessly to change policies and communities' structures to accommodate mobility challenged people. look it up

[@katieblade7083]

Joe: I'm a right honerry pric. Your a sassy little Birxh, we should link up n cause some havok. What do you say? Pissing there buckets? Don't care who.

[@6022]

I don't know how you fundamentally fix this. The whole country is made of small houses with poor accessibility, and many can't even be retrofitted. Even if new homes had to be accessible, so many of our homes are decades or even centuries old, there'll be accessibility problems for a very long time.

[@rhyanashah128]

I agree, but they don't even build new accommodation with accessibility in mind. So it's not even retrofitting. They can't fix the problem in real time, let alone past housing Edit: what i mean to say is that i think disabled people would rather have a house that caters to their needs at all, than having to choose between inaccessible 60's house or inaccessible 2019 house

[@hannahlack1061]

*@@rhyanashah128 Yup and even in accommodation built and designed for wheelchair accessibility they don't fully think it through. At university my flat was built for a wheelchair but it made no sense. A wide door into my bedroom but not into the kitchen, an adjustable sink and hob but no space for a wheelchair with the massive table and benches they put in. There was an electric hoist on my ceiling but they also decided the shelves should be about 5ft 5 high and 6ft high?! Bunch of idiots built it! I could rant for hours about it, it irritated me so much.

[@rhyanashah128]

@@hannahlack1061 i wish your experience was better. I wish everyone's experience was better.

[@MJShaker]

It's actually quite doable with 150% speed and subtitles

[@TaxingIsThieving]

How about making comedy more accessible to people who can actually tell jokes

[@Stuart-u6z]

I carnt belive u would Consider liveing in slough its a dump

[@iangreene2063]

91% of housing is not wheel chair accessible. That means 9% is. What percent of the population is confined to a wheel chair? I don't want to be insensitive but it I would think we have the issue covered in excess. It would be unreasonable and unfair to begin demanding property owners make expensive conversions and modifications.

[@deadshot8077]

Like, good on her for advocating on the issue, but what was with all the cheering and yelling “I did it?” when it didn’t seem like anything was achieved?

[@thatevilducky]

they made the first step and gotten a listing site(?) to be more clear in whether or not a home is accessible to someone using a wheelchair or with disabilities that cause access issues, it wasn't a landslide, but she did something about an issue she was aware of and got somewhere at least

[@thesamlewis]

Thank God for subtitles...

[@thesamlewis]

I just can’t understand Joe Lycett, it’s his posh voice.

[@deanotaggo9788]

@@HotEatTheFood come on Alexia even she would laugh at that. I prefer a world where people can mock without being offended. It's a greater way of facing adversity and equalizing everything. Theres no difference between this video and when I'm pissed I would be offended if you spoke up for me. Keep safe ✌👍keep finding a problem. Much love.

[@andreafabe-heywood8184]

I have no trouble understanding Rosie

[@mdalat6129]

@@andreafabe-heywood8184 i do though... Wondering if British people are better at hearing her

[@amie1599]

@@mdalat6129 being British may help as we might understand her accent better but I think when someone has that condition you also just have to pay full attention and make sure you’re actually listening. My cousin has it and she can be hard to understand if you’re not patient + are distracted. Just have to be open minded and take extra care to register the words they’re trying to say

[@eddiestaunton514]

If you put ff 1.5 it is normal!

[@Gary-o9i]

So unfunny

[@CrashSable]

When your whole career is just pretending to be a monster "for a joke", you should accept that you probably are a monster and shouldn't ever be listened to.

[@jeffreycater5447]

Thanks for the extremely relevant information

[@bloodmoon0205]

Wait? What?

[@callmetiger7186]

Wow! It’s almost like disabled people aren’t as capable as they’d have you believe….I suppose that’s what happens when you tell the world you’re just as capable as able bodied people when in fact you’re not 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@josephcannon3938]

God forgive you ever become disabled....

[@itsthatocean]

Wow it's almost like it isn't that hard to make small adjustments and considerations for people that aren't just yourself, if not out of thoughtful care then basic human decency. But I can't blame you for being differently decent lol

[@callmetiger7186]

@@itsthatocean …those adjustments are made you cretin…it’s just not EVERYONE has to pander to the want and need of a very select few people…compared to the rest of the population! Let’s not forget it wasn’t able-bodied people raising disabled people up out their wheelchair under the guise of “equality”. If a disabled person requires assistance that is time, money and energy that someone else has to cater too. And forcing people into doing something only leads to resentment….it’s like hiring someone based on their skin colour over actual academic or work achievements! It’s all white knights virtue signalling behaviour that’s done more harm than good…hence why disabled people have to now jump through hoops for basic disability benefits and PiP 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@1969Kismet]

@@itsthatocean Reading the reply you got for that comment, looks like you've unleashed something here and it smells nasty!

[@callmetiger7186]

@catscancancan ….apologies, I couldn’t be arsed to read your lecture, but… I assume it’s just some diatribe basically attacking me for holding a different opinion than your own? and I presume somewhere you refer to me as uneducated or some similar supposed slur? Champion 👍🏻

[@Chris-xv2gm]

Funny as HIV.