Rotary Premix: What Is It And How Does It Work?

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@Vandebirt
@Vandebirt 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this useful information, My hat’s off to you Sir. Your films are clear and straight to the point. No stupid “Vlogs” where the person is fooling around trying to explain how his day is going rather than explain how the “Pre-mix” has to be added. You even went out of your way to do a chart. I was hesitant to buy an RX-7 but thanks to people like you makes me feel at ease that I’m more likely to enjoy owning one.
@-Selcouth
@-Selcouth 2 жыл бұрын
did you get an rx7?
@Vandebirt
@Vandebirt 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Selcouth I did pulled the trigger on an 1992 RHD - 2 years ago when I posted this comment. Is not as bad of a car as people seem to portray it. As long as you maintain the vehicle religiously then it's a pretty fun experience. The one thing I really dislike about it is the brittle interior plastics...
@-Selcouth
@-Selcouth 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vandebirt thats really cool to hear cause now im looking to buy an fc in the next couple months after watching this channel, thanks for the reply
@arca9e295
@arca9e295 7 жыл бұрын
Finally someone of my generation who understands the concept of premixing. I premix every time I fill up and I use Amalie Synplus 20w-20 2stroke oil. I even premix my 4stroke Chinese scooter and it runs slightly cooler especially in this Texas heat
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 5 жыл бұрын
Don't put too much oil in the 4 stroke to not run it lean
@filiplaskovski9993
@filiplaskovski9993 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobwebb8818 not just that but also the oil lowers the octane and you get detonation
@keithlarsen8423
@keithlarsen8423 3 жыл бұрын
what if u mixed 2 stroke into ur engine oil? wouldnt that also solve the problem?
@arca9e295
@arca9e295 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithlarsen8423 not really, 2stroke oil is meant to be burned during combustion. A rotary is like a 2stroke in the way it needs lubricating oil to be mixed in with the fuel/air charge
@apathy01
@apathy01 5 жыл бұрын
I've had my FC for almost 4 years now and i just hit 151k. The motor has never been rebuilt, the OMP works and the car doesn't smoke at all, but I've been very curious about starting to premix and this video helped out alot! thanks you! subbed too
@aapelikeilamaa9523
@aapelikeilamaa9523 5 жыл бұрын
NA?
@apathy01
@apathy01 5 жыл бұрын
@@aapelikeilamaa9523 Yeah, 87 GXL.
@souprah
@souprah Жыл бұрын
damn dude hoping im lucky with mine
@apathy01
@apathy01 Жыл бұрын
cars been dead for 3 years here, good luck king @@souprah
@corbincantell1254
@corbincantell1254 4 жыл бұрын
Im buying an rx8 and this video helped my education so much! Straight forward, informational, no fluffy bullshit! Thanks a tonne for the vid.
@gregorygratereaux1140
@gregorygratereaux1140 7 жыл бұрын
I like to do it because you really feal the difference in the pedal smoother revs..
@KoopaXross
@KoopaXross 7 жыл бұрын
I remember the change I felt. Literally going from 2dl to 2.5dl premix made a huge smoothness difference for me.
@RastaBIasta
@RastaBIasta 8 ай бұрын
Rob Dham says " premix, premix, premix!" E85 + Premix = God Tier 😅or something to that effect. Rob is great for the culture
@loganhorsley538
@loganhorsley538 6 жыл бұрын
I’m about to buy an RX-8 and these videos are super helpful. Thank you for making these!
@condolence1567
@condolence1567 4 жыл бұрын
How did it go?
@renvalkcy
@renvalkcy 4 жыл бұрын
I got an rx-8 this week let’s fucking GOOOOOO 😤😤
@wanderingtrd9382
@wanderingtrd9382 3 жыл бұрын
Hoping to buy an FC one day, watching all your videos to get caught up on rotary care! 👍🏽 also thankfully I live near Atkins rotary
@souprah
@souprah Жыл бұрын
Hey give us an update fam
@rodolfotorres1602
@rodolfotorres1602 4 жыл бұрын
Always need to have in mind that many people don’t mention when they talk OMP and premix is that the OMP uses obviously the same oil cycling through the engine, that means the engine is going to burn oil and if you don’t change the oil frequently, the Apex Seals are going to get dirty oil and get that carbon build up which is going to cause the springs behind every seal to get stuck and then there’s where you have to drop a couple of grands on rebuilding the engine. Keep your rotary engine oil, up to date and if you have a working OMP well be more paranoid with the oil.
@antweeezzyyyantop6743
@antweeezzyyyantop6743 2 жыл бұрын
how often should you change oil on said rotary? like for as healthy as possible
@albertsammut433
@albertsammut433 4 жыл бұрын
Since my first RX3 racer back in the day we always premixed Aviation Turbine engine oil at 100:1 in our gas and NEVER had any issue with lubrication of the Apex seals or any of the engines internals..This magic stuff is designed for high heat/load and rpm applications and contains the best organic phosphate ester oil base that exists..Ideal for our application.
@Mr.Scootini
@Mr.Scootini 3 жыл бұрын
Where would you get said Aviation turbine oil?
@albertsammut433
@albertsammut433 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Scootini I was an Aero Engineer back then working at Melbourne Essendon Airport..Aviation Turbine fuel and Lubricats all available at Mobil fuel depot right on site.
@j.bartos1466
@j.bartos1466 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Scootini castrol, shell or mobil sell them
@The_JDM_Dynasty
@The_JDM_Dynasty 7 жыл бұрын
Slightly controversial topic is an understatement :)
@IWasBornIn92
@IWasBornIn92 7 жыл бұрын
How do I check if my omp is working? Probably a newb question. I've just never owned an rotory and have only driven friends.
@zeus014
@zeus014 4 жыл бұрын
There's no warning system per se if that's what you mean. But there is a rudimentary method involving disconnecting the lines from the OMP and then - to prevent metering-oil interrupting while the engine is running with the OMP lines disconnected - manually metering oil into the intake (using an oil squirt can) at a specific rate while the engine is running at a specific RPM. Simply collect the oil being delivered from the OMP into a measuring cup for a given time frame and confirm the amount collected is within specs.
@oldrrocr
@oldrrocr 2 жыл бұрын
if you need to add oil once in a while, it's probably working.🤣
@luigimartinez7127
@luigimartinez7127 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, shooting cars. I like on what you said on the premixing on to when and where you should start premixing. You left out some details; which not many really know. So I decided I'll state them on here for incase you run into someone else that are running the 13 cosmo "which are in the fc or fd rx7's or really a 13b renesis "which are in the Mazda rx8's" although premixing is very essential after removing the omp; but removing the omp is a noob job, which does and is proven to gradually destroy your inner moving parts of any fantastic rotary engines. But the omp should never be removed but further more, you should premix your rotary engine(s) with the omp still active. It gives it more lubricant that the conventional oil can't fully lubricate; which is why people fall for premixing. Me myself personally; run 2 stroke outboard oil that you can buy at any store. I believe it's called supertech. But that's my personal preference on that. But also with 2 stroking. You still have to hold this in consideration, you have to use the premium; no regular gas. You can use the regular gas but u Wouldn't be able to use much 2 stroke oil. Which is; that it itself can cause a clog in the injectors. So in all, premix but don't delete the omp; also after a rebuild on original housings and plates premix, so everything is lubricated so no catastrophic failures come about.
@coolguy10060
@coolguy10060 6 жыл бұрын
I was just about to ask if it would be bad to leave the OMP and still pre mix thanks for the explanation
@nugget4971
@nugget4971 5 жыл бұрын
Neat
@ThreeDaysOfDan
@ThreeDaysOfDan 5 жыл бұрын
the premium Gas is BS myth because when the Rx-7 came out the highest octane rating was 85.. the worst gas today is 91 octane
@HarshPatel-ue8hp
@HarshPatel-ue8hp 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThreeDaysOfDan hi ik this is an old reply and comment, my old rx8 owner used premium gas 95, can i go back to 91 using premix
@ThreeDaysOfDan
@ThreeDaysOfDan 5 жыл бұрын
@@HarshPatel-ue8hp I was talking about the 1979 model year. But considering we don't have 95 where I live ( the highest is 93), I'm sure 91 is fine. as it's still considered " premium" by legal standards.
@edgarsantiago_3908
@edgarsantiago_3908 7 жыл бұрын
I use uplon fuel lube, ive been trying different amounts of premix per gallon. For my specific car i use about .75 ounces per gallon. 1 ounce per gallon makes my car a bit sluggish, misfire to a degree, and just doesnt seem to go well with my car since it does still have the omp pump. You should remember adding oil to gasoline drops octane levels, hence why you would always use premium gasoline.
@luigimartinez7127
@luigimartinez7127 7 жыл бұрын
Edgar Santiago I had the same issue when I ran 1 ounce of 2 stroke oil with my gas. I just upgraded my coil packs with the ls1 coils and I never had a sluggish feel anymore. Plus it idles allot stronger too
@jacobhansen2503
@jacobhansen2503 7 жыл бұрын
Love this Channel lots of love from Denmark
@LeaveMasonAlone
@LeaveMasonAlone 7 жыл бұрын
Even though my OMP is still working, I use 0.5-0.75oz Idemitsu per gallon. I drive an '81 FB with the stock Nikki. Also I add the premix first.
@Rotary12A
@Rotary12A 5 жыл бұрын
Same here I got a 85 with the stock nikki Carb
@Surfingnet
@Surfingnet 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video, i already prelix my 8 even with a Sohn kit installed but you gave me a lot of useful information, keep going. :)
@theSemperFiBolter
@theSemperFiBolter 7 жыл бұрын
2007 rx8 working omp 51000 miles, I pre mix 50:1 or 1/2 ounce to 1 gal of fuel @ every fill up. I alternate between idemitau and valvoline 2 stroke oil. And check your engine oil @ every fill up, what else are you going to do when you are waiting for the pump? this is my routine.
@spongeblyat
@spongeblyat 4 жыл бұрын
i dont even have a rotary yet but your videos are quality af
@gregorygratereaux1140
@gregorygratereaux1140 7 жыл бұрын
I had a 79 with a 12a original my metering pump work well I also pre mix with marvel oil used to beat the heck out of it doing burn out with a center force high performance clutch went though 5 differentials never had a problem with my engine or transmission great times..
@davidjohn6936
@davidjohn6936 6 жыл бұрын
Gregory Gratereaux Cool I had a 79 rx7 12a big stage two. .on f90 Simmons.radrx7 .plates was my favorite rx7 I had
@fredrenault9012
@fredrenault9012 7 жыл бұрын
one thing, how do you premix. like do you fill up your tank until the pump stops, and then you add the oil (wouldnt that overflow?) or do you put the oil in first and then fill up (how do you know how much gas it'll take to add the correct amount?)
@luigimartinez7127
@luigimartinez7127 4 жыл бұрын
fred renault personally I carry a beaker with a screw top to mix gas in with my ratio of premix “Behind every 2 stroke oil” there’s ratios to follow the size gas tank of the opposing vehicle Follow it to the very end and all should be good
@Hartbreak1
@Hartbreak1 4 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve seen some people have containers ready with the correct amount of oil for the gas they want to put in. They put the oil in first then they put the gas.
@edlippjr
@edlippjr 3 жыл бұрын
love your vids homie, great info and you use a tripod which goes a long way in my book :) cool to see what you were doing years ago and we've you gone with your channel :) rawk on
@bruhmoment802
@bruhmoment802 7 жыл бұрын
is a good idea use premix and the pump at the same time, will that improve the engine's life?
@cavaleir1
@cavaleir1 2 жыл бұрын
@Shooting Cars I have a question I hope you could answer for me, I have a 1983 Mazda RX-7 GSL that has been sitting in my garage since 2012 how would you began to get it running again. I have not started it since 2012, thanks for any help that you can give or any direction to go and seek help through.
@pg9511
@pg9511 4 жыл бұрын
I plan to use a rotary engine in my aircraft. The guy I met at a rotary website says that using synthetic oil leaves deposits in your engine. About the only oil I find is Briggs & Stratton is very low ash, unlike the synthetic varieties. What do you know about using a certain type or staying away from some kinds of 2 cycle oil? I've heard that 1/2 to 2 oz. of oil per gallon should work. Go with 2 oz. if you're racing.
@DBrown822
@DBrown822 7 жыл бұрын
Super educated and superbly taught. Great video.
@bludika
@bludika 7 жыл бұрын
is premixing necessary if you're just a normal driver? i dont do tracks and i take care of my care extremely well, i still drive a 2004 model, GT, with only 61k miles, but ALWAYS on top of my maintenance like oil, coolant flush, airbox filter clean, spark plugs, ignition coils, wires, etc. I only use premium gas and redline it almost every time i drive it at least once, and i don't drive it extremely hard, very normal driver, is premixing STILL necessary? or is it just added insurance? i don't mind buying it and doing it but will it cause any harm? ive read how it can clog up your cat or cause you to fail emission tests, let me know. thank you.
@olina5563
@olina5563 7 жыл бұрын
You always have the most interesting stuff.
@Joeblogsvlogs
@Joeblogsvlogs 7 ай бұрын
Legend. Thank you my dude 👏👏👏
@alexaviles9164
@alexaviles9164 5 жыл бұрын
Hello from Puerto Rico lots of Blessings..cool
@vhsorbeta95
@vhsorbeta95 6 жыл бұрын
My stock 1991 vert has the electronically driven pump. When it goes, it will smoke the ECU as mine did. Any videos on removing/replacing the pump with the engine in the car would be most helpful. I hear it's a PITA.
@erniediaz894
@erniediaz894 6 жыл бұрын
On my RX2 with a Half Bridge 13B I use 1 oz of premix to 1 gallon of 87 octane. For my first 1000 miles. I run a 51DCOE Webber and dont use a OMP. Runs great but fouls my plugs in about 1000 miles of use.
@eriklehnsherr5784
@eriklehnsherr5784 2 жыл бұрын
Wont the oil build up on or clog the injectors? Or is 2cycle actually thin enough it wont?
@haydentakara4369
@haydentakara4369 4 жыл бұрын
So do you need a cat delete to do a premix cuz I read that it’ll gum up your cats, and I’ll need to pass emissions so I can’t do a cat delete unless I buy an older car (1995 or before) that way I won’t have to pass emissions.
@crteezy
@crteezy 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same concern
@dariovillacorta7584
@dariovillacorta7584 2 жыл бұрын
So I was told to put 2 oz per 10gallon, my friend has a same rx7 as mine and i haven’t had issues YET, so what shoudl I put
@KoopaXross
@KoopaXross 7 жыл бұрын
I do 2.5dl/8.5oz Castrol 2T clean formula oil every fill up on my RX-7 FC turbo II S5 (Which means I guess the ECU will tell me on the dash, unike pre-S5s, if the OMP goes bad but not sure). I put in oil before gas. It's also good for flushing the path down to the tank for oil. I have a working OMP. This is coming from anything but a mechanic that will be able to fix the car if shit hits the fan (nor do I think any mechanics around these parts will be able to comprehend the engine for that matter). I'm as casual as you can get of an RX-7 owner and even I premix.
@Alex-us2vw
@Alex-us2vw 4 жыл бұрын
Shell Advance synthetic snowmobile oil, Quicksilver synthetic outboard oil, Mercury synthetic outboard oil all work great. Snowmobiles and outboards are both very high load engine applications since they use constant high power settings in cruise vs automotive or lawn/garden 2 stroke oil engines. The extra few bucks for synthetic are well worth it for the reduction in carbon deposits. Basically any synthetic 2 stroke oil for snowmobiles or outboards is the way to go. Shell, Mercury/Quicksilver, skidoo/BRP XPS all use full synthetics. There are also some good dirt bike oils but it’s not as straight forward since some brands have some pretty shitty scammy products like Ipone and their strawberry scented 2 stroke smoke oil.
@Hikarmeme
@Hikarmeme 6 жыл бұрын
I usually add .5 oz of any old 2 stroke per gallon of regular gas. Seems to work out well
@maxlambert6587
@maxlambert6587 7 жыл бұрын
what if you replace the omp pump after 80k miles, do you still need to premix?
@luigimartinez7127
@luigimartinez7127 7 жыл бұрын
Max Lambert yes and no. Depends on how hard you drive your car, like for instance. If you drift or rev over 8k then yes you should. Otherwise you don't really need to premix but premixing on a side note is great for the car to keep it alive which is a good thing; since we all know that rotaries are a hassle to build
@toddkobelljr.2004
@toddkobelljr.2004 4 жыл бұрын
Alr, I'm dumb, but when u premix, oil has to also be in the oil tank rt?
@nickborowski7850
@nickborowski7850 4 жыл бұрын
You put premix in with the gasoline
@pepsuchan
@pepsuchan 7 жыл бұрын
The omp on mine wouldn't go back together after I bought the rebuild kit, idk why maybe I'm an idiot but now I'm gonna premix. I think its so stupid but oh well. I was gonna get that idemitsu oil cause I thought the price wasn't too bad, but the shipping cost makes it too much! I'd use that if I could just pick it up, but now I might just use Valvoline or something. I'm even thinking of getting the Supertech stuff from walmart cause its only 12 bucks a gallon. It meets all the requirements but apparently has more smoke and smells funny.
@MrHoon-ez6jw
@MrHoon-ez6jw 4 жыл бұрын
If I premix a half oz. Same kind of oil? 2 stroke oil?
@guitariste47
@guitariste47 6 жыл бұрын
hi, i don't know if i missed something, but if you do premix, i suppose you disconnect the omp ?thanks
@zeus014
@zeus014 4 жыл бұрын
In my experience discarding the OMP altogether is the safest way to go. Here's why I say that: I used to use the Sohn adapter on one of my old 12A 1st gens. This was a high-mileage engine (ie: over 80,000 miles) and, at that time, I wasn't aware of just how much oil per tank of fuel was being metered in normal applications, ie: when the metering pump was known to be in good condition and not worn. I simply took for granted that the approx. 6 to 8 oz of 2-cycle oil required to top off my reservoir at every fuel fill-up was the proper consumption, never cluing in for a moment that maybe the OMP was already partially worn and was no longer pumping enough oil. About a year later I was on a long trip. I stopped to fill the tank and reservoir. Surprise! Reservoir was still full! This of course meant that my OMP had quit, and that for the last 400 miles I'd had no apex seal lube. (A subsequent tear-down of that pump confirmed my suspicions). Needless to say I pre-mixed at that fuel stop and from that point onward. When I got home I removed the OMP and the Sohn adapter and then installed a block-off plate. I then continued to pre-mix, adding 12 oz of premix to every tank of fuel. But the damage had already been done. A few months later I lost power to the rear rotor in the classic lost apex seal manner. Except: the apex seals looked fine and still moved freely when inspected through the spark plug hole. There was no coolant loss so I knew the housings hadn't warped and caused the coolant seals to fail. What then was the problem? I tore the engine down and found that, while the rotor and all seals were functional, the chrome plating from the spark plug locations to the exhaust port had detached and then been unceremoniously ejected via the exhaust port. Just a fluke of some sort? Maybe. Excessive heat build-up from maybe running lean due to a vacuum leak? Perhaps. But I wonder if maybe the excessive heat that weakened the bond between the housing and the chrome liner was caused by excessive friction due to lack of apex seal lubrication, and that the damage had been initiated prior to my switching to pre-mix. This seems plausible, especially considering that this area of the housing is the hottest to begin with, owing to the fact that the combustion/power sequence takes place there. Conclusions: 1. Premixing is the only way to confirm with certainty that your apex seals are getting the proper amount of lube. 2. especially with fuel-injected rotaries (where the OMP meters oil directly into the housing in a thin stream that only lubes the middle of the apex seals while starving the outer ends - rather than metering it into the carburetor float bowls as in the 12A engines, where it would have mixed with fuel before entering the intake charge) pre-mixing is by far the best way to go. 3. Pre-mixing 2-cycle oil extends engine life. Here's why: Cleaner-burning 2-cycle oil reduces the the type of carbon deposits that clog seals and cause them to eventually stick in their grooves. The very reason Mazda designed these engines with a metering pump was to make the rotary engine the least prone to failure due to improper maintenance - and because they knew telling new customers that they would have to mix 2-cycle oil into their fuel fill-ups would be a very hard sell. Even though (much) cleaner-burning 2-cycle oil would increase the life expectancy of the rotary, they also knew that some owners would neglect to do this or at the very least, not put enough pre-mix into their fuel fill-ups. Better to compromise by simply designing a metering pump that puts dirty and not-as-clean-burning engine oil into the induction system and then tell owners to check the oil every fuel fill-up and add a quart of oil when required.
@udaaz
@udaaz 5 жыл бұрын
Oh and you can buy Klotz R50 for about $48 a gallon on eBay
@jlo13800
@jlo13800 4 жыл бұрын
i got some.
@AdamYeatesyuh
@AdamYeatesyuh 2 жыл бұрын
is premixing even if its perfect from your chart bad?
@Skyrexx7
@Skyrexx7 5 жыл бұрын
Really good videos
@althafjalaldeen945
@althafjalaldeen945 5 жыл бұрын
Hi shooting cars. I have a 2008 series 2 Rx8. I have never premixed my rotary before and the engine mileage is closing to 50,000kms now. I’m now thinking of premixing it. Have read about how it’s not needed as the series 2 engines are more refined and how they added in an extra oil injector. Just wanted to know your opinion on this matter.
@ShootingCars
@ShootingCars 5 жыл бұрын
That is true, mazda added an injector, but I would still premix maybe .5oz per gallon. Just because you never know if the system is failing or not working to it's full potential like it did 11 years ago.
@althafjalaldeen945
@althafjalaldeen945 5 жыл бұрын
Shooting Cars thanks for the advice! Better to be safe then.
@CastellawSpeed
@CastellawSpeed 7 жыл бұрын
.5 oz per gallon of pre-mix. 1.0 oz per gallon for track days/autocross.
@nftsniffedjj7279
@nftsniffedjj7279 3 жыл бұрын
How do I know if it has omp does 1997 rx7 have omp
@abracing199
@abracing199 7 жыл бұрын
Even if you put oil in last the second you start driving and your gas sloshes as you drive it'll mix thoroughly
@unbeatable2.077
@unbeatable2.077 4 жыл бұрын
How much. Should i put
@yutaka9494
@yutaka9494 7 жыл бұрын
Let’s say I beat on the rx7 most of the time. So if the rx7 has a 16 or 18 gallon tank I think and I put 1oz of premix per gallon of gas. Does that mean I put 16oz or premix in the gas tank then fill it up with gas?
@ShootingCars
@ShootingCars 7 жыл бұрын
yes if the tank is near empty
@yutaka9494
@yutaka9494 7 жыл бұрын
Shooting Cars Thanks! I’m trying to buy this Rx7 GXL and it’s been sitting for 6 months unused. The oil has been drained out prior to sitting because the guy wanted to rebuild the engine and he said the car starts up fine and has had no probems. It never overheated, seized or flooded. It has around 134k miles on it and the omp still works. He removed the radiator, battery, intake, and starter. It would need to be pieced back together and have oil put back in the car. I’m just trying to get some info from other people who have had experience before I go buy this car and it ends up being a piece of junk. I’ve watched a lot of videos and they say a lot of different things. If you could help me with this that would be great.
@ShootingCars
@ShootingCars 7 жыл бұрын
let me know what you need help with!
@yutaka9494
@yutaka9494 7 жыл бұрын
Shooting Cars I need help knowing wether or not I should go and buy the car.
@MJTAUTOMOTIVE
@MJTAUTOMOTIVE 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Dude, good job. But a it is a oil metering pump. not a OMP pump. it's like your saying oil metering pump pump. if possible use Castro A747 I use in my circuit racing car and after 2 full seasons of racing everything is in good usable condition. You are getting better with your videos . Cheers Mark.
@nachomartinez444
@nachomartinez444 7 жыл бұрын
I have never premixed and have been fine. #savetheseals
@gabethompson943
@gabethompson943 4 жыл бұрын
I have a rebuilt ported 13b and it has aviation apex seals. I run 2 oz per gallon
@PierreCalifornia
@PierreCalifornia 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@xxichill3189
@xxichill3189 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for confirming that the myth was partially fake because I want to buy a Rx-7 online but I know the rx-7’s that are on there that will have a high mileage and I thought if its above 80,000 its gonna need a rebuilt but never mind aslong as you replace the OMP or premix it should last longer
@robertraft
@robertraft 3 жыл бұрын
i was talking about this today. i dont have a rotary, idk.
@udaaz
@udaaz 5 жыл бұрын
1oz Klotz R50 full synthetic per 1 gallon of gas and your good to go!!
@Rotary12A
@Rotary12A 5 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only rotor head running klotz r50 lol
@loganwenzlick8785
@loganwenzlick8785 5 жыл бұрын
Can u premix and have omp
@zombieplant3048
@zombieplant3048 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you should so your engine will last longer
@Michele-yb8hx
@Michele-yb8hx 7 жыл бұрын
How can check iif the omp is working?
@luigimartinez7127
@luigimartinez7127 7 жыл бұрын
JMZFB1312 the pump itself will still work because of the suction. The suction of the oil will pull the oil and spray it. But it's a slow and steady suction, like for instance if you were to stay at about 3-4K and your speed is 45-50 then the oil speed will increase but if you go the normal 30mph then it will just suction oil at its own speed which is best but I would recommend to premix just for aside and assurance
@JustinShepard00
@JustinShepard00 7 жыл бұрын
When I race my '84 GLS RX7, even with 193 octane fuel, which has lead, I premix. I definitely premix when I use 93 octane for my racing when I dont have enough money to pay for racing fuel for $5 a gallon.
@Bboykidcombo
@Bboykidcombo 3 жыл бұрын
155000miles 1985 fc 13b na .I just started to premix. 15ml or 1/2oz per 1 gallon of gas mix. still have a omp . Iv had the car for 16 years for those first 8 years I raced it hard. Still runs great but the interior is falling apart.
@BeyondEllisBeck
@BeyondEllisBeck 5 жыл бұрын
Pre-mixing sounds suspect. This sounds like it dilutes your gas/octane grade. If I put in 93 octane, doing this might cause it to degrade to 89 octane. I could be wrong, but it seems like you lose performance for reliability.
@tressiebrown9709
@tressiebrown9709 4 жыл бұрын
Actually most people don't know this but due to the shape of a stock rotor high octane can be worse for your engine most guys on forums have shown hp increase with 80 octane no ethonal
@hobbawobba
@hobbawobba 7 жыл бұрын
With omp I'd premix 300:1 or 400:1. depending how it's driven Without omp like my new engine. I'll be prefixing 100:1 or 150:1
@twinblade02
@twinblade02 5 жыл бұрын
Got an RX-8 a week ago. Don't have a measuring cup or anything, I'm pretty sure the car still has the stock OMP (no documentation that it was removed). Previous owner always used premix, and so am I. Since I don't have a bottle or anything - I use about 5 caps for a full tank of petrol (I'm not sure if this is enough tbh). The bottles should come in a few days, so I'm hoping some of you can give me some numbers on how much to premix when I fill up - I only ever fill up when the tank is low on fuel or close to it. Any advice?
@jtspiky
@jtspiky 5 жыл бұрын
Use 5ml for every liter on a full tank I just add between 300 to 350ml but I have a fd rx7
@twinblade02
@twinblade02 5 жыл бұрын
@@jtspiky hey man, thanks for the response. I'm using the Idemitsu recommended ratio for about 6.4oz for a 13 gallon tank (that's about 190ml for 50 liters). Think that's enough?
@jtspiky
@jtspiky 5 жыл бұрын
@@twinblade02 no worries mate I'm not too good imperial system but yes 200ml is the min for 50l my fd is 60l so if you're racing you go more. I've always put minimum 300ml for a full tank of 60l it's a weekend car not daily. I'd rather go a touch more than under fill. Be sure to pour in first then add fuel it helps wash it down the tank . Hope that helps
@twinblade02
@twinblade02 5 жыл бұрын
@@jtspiky I'm a metric guy myself (forced to use imperial because I'm in the US). But yeah, seems I'm doing okay based off of what you said. Thanks.
@tressiebrown9709
@tressiebrown9709 4 жыл бұрын
I use a variety of premixes from Quicksilver standard amsoil and normally penzoil I run 1 quart with every 10 gal just because I rag it alot my car has sat 20 yrs it consumes no oil so I'm assuming my omp doesn't work it runs great just rich like any other rotary I also change oil every 1500 miles or so
@beastoradrian6537
@beastoradrian6537 Жыл бұрын
Sry but what means OMP? An not tuned engine?
@ShootingCars
@ShootingCars Жыл бұрын
Oil Metering Pump
@Mr.Scootini
@Mr.Scootini 3 жыл бұрын
New sub ;)
@mattwilson6489
@mattwilson6489 6 жыл бұрын
Oops I been putting 4oz in. A gallon draw tho turbo 12 Street port
@josephbidal9874
@josephbidal9874 5 жыл бұрын
tc-3 ... u dont need to spend a lot of money... i actually buy the one they sell at 7-11brand.... not new to this been playing with rotarys since the 80s...as long as it is tc-3 rated na cars 1/2 oz ..turbo 1oz pre gallon .... omp is the single factor that the rx8 engine blow..when u pump engine oil mixes with the gas and creates carbon deposits over time... the rx8 exhaust port where it comes to a point carbon builds one day it will come loose....😫
@Aus.S7in
@Aus.S7in 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is where people fuck up and then say rotaries are bad
@jtspiky
@jtspiky 5 жыл бұрын
I use 300 to 350 ml for a full tank.
@unidorsalicosahedron7416
@unidorsalicosahedron7416 3 жыл бұрын
so, short answer seems to be "yes".
@Surfingnet
@Surfingnet 7 жыл бұрын
I use 4oz of Motul 800 for 60L of fuel.
@pedrocharafeddine
@pedrocharafeddine 7 жыл бұрын
No OMP 2%
@pedrocharafeddine
@pedrocharafeddine 7 жыл бұрын
Race and speed runs
@misterlocapone6604
@misterlocapone6604 4 жыл бұрын
“I suggest premixing... not post mixing”
@jerryallen3069
@jerryallen3069 4 жыл бұрын
i use ky jelly to lube mine
@DarkStryker
@DarkStryker 7 жыл бұрын
I don't premix.. I've never pre-mixed and don't ever plan too
@frankj545
@frankj545 7 жыл бұрын
omp deleted. premix 1 oz per gallon since i deleted omp 5000 miles ago and run a bottle fuel system cleaner after each oil change. no issues
@frankj545
@frankj545 7 жыл бұрын
i also meet every condition that you have on your flow chart rip me
@renvalkcy
@renvalkcy 4 жыл бұрын
im a dumb bitch & i know nothing so if anyone could tell me how to know if my car’s got a working OMP or not that’d be cool 🥴 I have an ‘04 RX-8
@stevehart1905
@stevehart1905 6 жыл бұрын
I bought a rx7 and put an sr20 because of this why do i have to premix all the time....
@monk4258
@monk4258 7 жыл бұрын
My rx3 is hot i beat all over it.lol
@corriejacobs5876
@corriejacobs5876 5 жыл бұрын
Story after story no one is sure what the premix should be, by simply say the mix is the same as on a 2 stroke weeteater or chain saw you sucks
@supradoom
@supradoom Жыл бұрын
I bought a quart of IDEMITSU premix but it's synthetic. Does it matter if the oil that I put in the car normally is not synthetic? Or should I make the switch to full synthetic?
@supradoom
@supradoom Жыл бұрын
@@Bubbaj226 Already there. It's fine.
@corriejacobs5876
@corriejacobs5876 5 жыл бұрын
Story after story no one is sure what the premix should be, by simply say the mix is the same as on a 2 stroke weeteater or chain saw you sucks
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