Round 2 of the Risk World Championships! S03-2023

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The Kill Pete Strategy

The Kill Pete Strategy

9 ай бұрын

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@ZytphenA
@ZytphenA 9 ай бұрын
Spoiler Block ❤
@77philesposito
@77philesposito 9 ай бұрын
Doing gods work
@semkelder4125
@semkelder4125 9 ай бұрын
W!!!
@commanderbacon6426
@commanderbacon6426 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@gridzx
@gridzx 8 ай бұрын
Legend 🙏
@DeuceGenius
@DeuceGenius 4 ай бұрын
If you read comments before watching you deserve spoilers 😊
@silverscrub2414
@silverscrub2414 9 ай бұрын
Everybody had a set on 4 but Pete, brutal. That said, if Pete didn’t get fed, it seemed like there was a very good chance he had another turn. Very unfortunate end to that one
@vezquex
@vezquex 9 ай бұрын
The channel lives up to its name.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
I knew I was going to get fed. I said as much before it happened.
@analogmike1534
@analogmike1534 9 ай бұрын
Hey Pete! I was Blue this game. Sorry about your luck, but hitting that 3 was my best path to vision in Europe while maintaining my other positions. Also thought it wouldn’t hurt to weaken your position overall with you going right after me in the turn order, since I could potentially kill you later (if I got to Europe), or cleanup a failed kill if someone missed your Madagascar position that only Black & I knew about. Knew it was a risk, still not sure if the right move, but hopefully not full-on noobery. Good luck the rest of the tournament!
@PowdergameFan18
@PowdergameFan18 9 ай бұрын
Seems the early hit gave you the victory, but only after 2 failed kill attempts, which is luck landing in your court. Hindsight 20/20 but you gotta take these skillfully lucky wins!
@sydvkwu9686
@sydvkwu9686 9 ай бұрын
I understand your play, what i don't understand is purple thinking he could kill pete, was it not obvious that he had more positions than purple was able to see?
@Quintavius
@Quintavius 9 ай бұрын
Don't understand the argument of "best path to vision in Europe" when you fortified away from Europe at the end of that turn.
@analogmike1534
@analogmike1534 9 ай бұрын
@@Quintavius Well, I thought it was until I saw stacks blocking me in both India & Ural. Didn’t realize until after taking China that the way was shut.
@OuroBoros_Games
@OuroBoros_Games 9 ай бұрын
i guess sometimes you need to risk it, and this may give you the win if no one bites your ass later for it.
@Nostrebor27
@Nostrebor27 9 ай бұрын
I played black here. I really wanted to take the chance to get your bounty on my turn, but I knew orange and red were kill-guarding your final position. It would have been super close on numbers, but if there wasn't a guard, I knew I had to try if I wanted a chance for anything other than tied for 2nd.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Im glad you didn't want to throw. I knew nobody had my kill and I knew they were going to throw trying for it anyways
@obiwancoruscant1024
@obiwancoruscant1024 9 ай бұрын
​@@TheKillPeteStrategythat's the benefit of the bounties in tournaments. You don't have people playing to win, they are playing for bounty and all that does is compound unlucky starts.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
@@obiwancoruscant1024 I'm only able to control for settings in my own torunament and I'll let other people feel free to reach out to me for advice on how to fix theirs if they so choose.
@joshrathbun1616
@joshrathbun1616 9 ай бұрын
Yeah every single person except Pete having a set on 4 was absolutely terrible luck. Between that, getting a 3 stack hit early, and being in the first seat I don't really think you could have had worse luck. GG Pete the game had it out for you as much as your opponents on this one.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Yep really bad luck there all around.
@theo_the_hero
@theo_the_hero 9 ай бұрын
So much debate in these comments of what might have been the right plays but all I can think of is how no set on four is just fatal. Especially in a tournament where kills are worth points, people just can’t resist the urge to cross their fingers and click buttons attacking someone on five cards and hoping it works out.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah there's no debate. There's nothing I could have done differently here. I just lost to luck. That happens. There's a chance I don't know what I'm talking about. There's a chance people debating in YT comments don't either. Which do you suppose is more likely?
@TehJumpingJawa
@TehJumpingJawa 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if skipping your T4 attack (The turn after blue knocked out your 3 stack) would've played out differently?
@papisalamander1056
@papisalamander1056 9 ай бұрын
probably not because after blue got that 40 trade he was for sho done for
@TehJumpingJawa
@TehJumpingJawa 9 ай бұрын
@papisalamander1056 It wouldn't have been a 40 trade though, it would've been 35. Moreover the earlier trades would've been more advantageous for Pete too (assuming nobody else had skipped). Pete's 1st card trade would've given him -4+15=11 more troops. Blue's trades would've given him 8 fewer troops, and Purple 7 fewer. Blue popping Pete's 3-stack made him a target (even moreso than being in position 1), and demonstrated Blue was either: not very good and/or hunting Pete. I think at this point skipping a card to minimize the troop differential between Pete & Blue became the only way of avoiding the noob slam (either by Blue, or another player) Hindsight is ofc 20/20, but it's a path to at least consider in the future.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
I think skipping would have just made me even more dead.
@HeWhoShams
@HeWhoShams 9 ай бұрын
4:58 Start
@Christmasmoose714
@Christmasmoose714 9 ай бұрын
wait ur the best
@Repleh
@Repleh 9 ай бұрын
These settings are too complicated for R2 of an open tournament in my opinion. With better players I think they would be fine, but with players of all different caliber the likelihood for kill feeds is too high.
@CheddahSlammer
@CheddahSlammer 9 ай бұрын
I think that's the point
@Repleh
@Repleh 9 ай бұрын
@@CheddahSlammer What’s the point? To have players get fed? That doesn’t seem like a good arbiter of skill in a tournament that has only three opening placement rounds. I think these are fine settings in a winner only advance style tournament, but not as round 2 settings in a placement + bounty style tournament.
@CheddahSlammer
@CheddahSlammer 9 ай бұрын
@@Repleh Many that make these tournaments want really short fast games. The sooner someone dies, the shorter the game. They even put in portals to make it go faster, when they didn't even need them. I agree with you, but I feel those that make the tournaments feel the opposite. Many like the Chaos of a Luck based game.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
We were very careful about settings for the KPO and will continue to be so. As far as other tournaments and other tournament organizers they have the best interests of their players at heart I know that. I cannot speak to the execution of some settings but if those tournament organizers would reach out to me for my opinion I would always give it freely.
@blackbird351
@blackbird351 9 ай бұрын
This really makes me feel that these tournaments aren't *nearly* stringent enough about who qualifies. If there was an actual qualifying standard for something as prestigious as a World Championship tournament, this would eliminate the less capable people who try for a blind-luck kill in the early game despite only seeing a tiny fraction of a players troops. Real masters of a game don't make mistakes like that. You maximise your winning potential by minimising the luck factor. Purple sees 3 of Pete's positions, and decides he'll just roll the dice on whether Pete's troops are kill-guarded somewhere he can't see. That's not a world champion. And if the problem is a lack of competent players, there's nothing stopping the World Championships being a Round Robin-style tournament amongst a group of 20 or so players, or even a single multi-round series with the same 6 players. I think the prestige and skill level of such an event would still draw eyes, much like the Candidates or World Championship games in chess. But keep the noobs out. The fact that no-one besides Pete was even ranked GM in this game is an absolute sham. Edit: I would also like to point out the possibility that players like purple were not taking the game as seriously as a World Championship game should be taken, as if they were simply dismissing it as "inherently luck based, and therefore not worth stacking your hopes on". Again, that's not a World Championship mentality, and should be kept from these tournaments.
@sydvkwu9686
@sydvkwu9686 9 ай бұрын
I also don't understand purple's thought process and i can't imagine him being a good player
@blackbird351
@blackbird351 9 ай бұрын
@@sydvkwu9686 I can certainly hypothesise purple's thought process. I'd guess he was trying to weigh up the odds of Pete having a kill-guarded territory, and rationalised it as being a low possibility. Basically, he hinged the entire game on the equivalent of rolling a 4v2. Now, when I say it like *that* , it obviously looks like a noob play. But to someone ranked master or below (or even an undeserving GM), the extra steps of calculation make it *seem* like a well thought out play that's worth the risk. But it's really not, especially with all the approximations going into that rough calculation.
@Halojustice
@Halojustice 9 ай бұрын
Feel like the only way to do that is to make a buy in for the tourney. Make it so you have something to lose. Like everyone puts in $50 or $100. Then you will truly have the ones playing to win cause it means something. Plus you can have a prize pool/cash payout
@silverscrub2414
@silverscrub2414 9 ай бұрын
This is only round 2, there will be some not-so-great players in the groups because nobody has been cut. The first few rounds of tourneys can be pretty lucky because of this, it’s unfortunate but it is just the way it is for these tourney formats. I like the format where each group plays 3 games and the winner of the game moves on, no points at all. It’s VERY difficult to play 3 games and have no chances to win, mitigates a lot of luck. But it would also be difficult to do a large tourney in 100% that format because of the vast amount of different, fun, and interesting settings you would need. Would also just like to say that FFA rank does not define how good a player is. There are many top 100 players that are not ranked GM bc they just don’t play ranked or don’t care about the rank.
@OuroBoros_Games
@OuroBoros_Games 9 ай бұрын
is this being taken to far? critizing whole tournament and players bc they don't play as you like/think and bc your youtuber lost? It seems people like you are exaggerating. People can like they want.
@zPieEater
@zPieEater 9 ай бұрын
Hey Pete, I was red in this game! The second I saw you sit on 5 I started getting so nervous. Earlier, I saw blue aggro'ing you so I figured you were weakened, but I've had no visibility in Africa all game. Black not going for you made that 5 in Madagascar nearly invincible and because the rest of us noobs were all frantic, we accidentally worked together to give Blue the steamroll. I don't think anyone expected you to get so unlucky with the trades; it became very hectic fast. Regardless, GGs and thanks for the game!
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
GGs man. Luck can take out anyone in the game. As soon as I missed the set on four I knew what was going to happen and predicted it as much.
@michaelgrubb8896
@michaelgrubb8896 8 ай бұрын
Hey Pete, tough break, but I guess that's how trying to dominate the world goes some times. In one of your videos can you talk about this league and how people can get involved in these or other tournaments. Interested in joining tournaments like this once I get better at the game. Thank you for the videos!
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 8 ай бұрын
We'll be doing KPO 2 and I'll definitely do promos when sign ups open
@brettlawton9513
@brettlawton9513 9 ай бұрын
Tough luck here and so we'll just have to have some serious run good in the next round.... Lfg Pete you can do it!!!!!
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
That's the idea. I need an amazing R3
@johndeane2485
@johndeane2485 9 ай бұрын
Unlucky Pete! Best to go into next round with a completely fresh mindset, wipe the slate clean, keep your head up!
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
We have to suppose that as long as we get equivalently lucky next round we'll be fine. And if we don't we'll play next season.
@ConClasher3
@ConClasher3 9 ай бұрын
Damn yeah I essentially had the exact same round, starting position and all except I wasn’t the person who died last someone else was fed and then come one sweeper before I could trade and win the game. Gotta do well next week to survive fr
@HudsonHornet250
@HudsonHornet250 9 ай бұрын
Spoilers in my message below Unfortunate game for you no trade on 4 is a real bummer, although losing positions early on and the noob slams didn't help much either. I didn't do much better, although I had a trade on 3 I decided to not use it in the 5th position and ended up getting eliminated before my next turn. Ended up having 1 player kill someone and fail to run the 70, followed by another player also failing to run the 70. Ended up getting killed 2nd and that player also then failed to run the 70. Partially regretting not taking my trade on 3 so that I would survive at the end of the game for a few more points, but it's all a learning process. At least I qualify for the next round, alongside you... but we need a blooming good zombies round!
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
I will try!
@nicholasgworek6377
@nicholasgworek6377 9 ай бұрын
Tough break Pete!! It happens though. Lost to a full table of novices the other night because they were spam attacking everywhere. Took second, but not very satisfying… lol
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Ggs! I'd take second over last! Good luck this week
@Daddysnumber3son
@Daddysnumber3son 9 ай бұрын
Pete : “I would be pissed if someone hit my 3” Next turn *blue hits 3* Pete seaths
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Someone commented something to the effect of it being a 'good play' to hit my three and me calling it a noob slam was ego. We're all on different stages of learning with this game.
@mythicalsyn4598
@mythicalsyn4598 9 ай бұрын
I foresee Pete becoming the Risk Prophet spreading the wisdom and scripture of the No Australia No Win. Your disciples await you.
@eatthemuffinman
@eatthemuffinman 9 ай бұрын
Love the content and appreciate you were unlucky in this game with starting position, turn order, and arguably not being able to trade on 4. You were clearly flustered right from the opening which affected your play throughout the game and 'nothing you can do about that game' is not a good way to grow as a player. You know yourself it's all about percentage plays, so consider that your play was not objectively 100%: - you could have taken Oceania portal 1st turn which was superior to Asia and kept a stack in Irkutsk or China - you could have skipped 1st turn - you could have skipped 4th turn - With your other positions, you could have taken Southern Europe (or possibly even northern Africa as a choke point position) instead of Ukraine - in these settings, your strat seems to be to take island territories to make it difficult to find/kill you, but this blocks your troops and makes it impossible to see large chunks of the map, while still leaving you HEAVILY exposed to kill lines from multiple players who only need to see one of your territories being slammed to know you are being killed. Having one island position is good, having them all imo seems bad. - You avoid choke point positions while appreciating that they are very strong at the same time (for example not being able to enter NA) - You did not move or change strat though you knew the calibre of players in this lobby was not world champ level, you can adapt your game to be appropriate for your opponents (in this case, having 1 or 2 less positions, (for example dropping the NA/Europe island) and having larger stacks (this is especially true since you had 0 vision on NA). You knew Purple (and possibly blue) was lining up to 'noob slam' you, and while his play was obviously not optimal you simply watched him do it for 2 turns. just some food for thought, better luck next game :)
@CheddahSlammer
@CheddahSlammer 9 ай бұрын
I completely disagree, -Not sure if taking the Oceania is better then taking the Asia portal later on. -people act like skipping isn't a risk that results in everyone else skipping and you being in the same position. If you can pull it off it works, but your really think higher ranked players wouldn't notice and just skip in turn? -Ukraine had the most vision in Europe, the other two point sacrifice vision. -That's the result of getting bad positioning. He had no way to get into North America just based on starting positions, so their was no way to see the whole map. Most of the islands were starting positions and spots were he needed to get an easy card on a 1 stack. -The choke point positions had large stacks, even blacks 3, usually if you attack a 3 you get retaliated against by who you hit. -Their is very little you can do against the noob slam, having larger stacks doesn't prevent them from slamming you and result in the next in the turn order getting the Feed, like we saw in this game. Lets say he consolidated his Europe and Asia positions for a very large stack. Purple still slams into the stack, maybe not destroying it, but then Red takes it out next turn but fails to see madagascar, and we end up in the same spot were Blue Wins. Personally this game is heavily luck based, especially on these settings and he got really screwed with positioning and First Turn order. Even if he got last in the turn order he could have done much better. However after he got a 3 stack destroyed by blue, and didn't have a set on 4, his game was screwed, as everyone sees him as an easy kill. Your advice is good if the players aren't also good, but everyone here was Master or higher.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Card skipping in either scenario would have made me even more dead. Taking a bonus would have cost troops, painted a target on me (everyone knows where you are) and I would have been dead before I would have been able to earn enough troops to make up for the cost. Players of any skill level would have made the exact same error. It's correct to try and take a bounty on a player holding five cards. The only scenario where I wasn't dead would have been if a couple other players failed to trade in as well. This game is about as perfect of an example of a game where there was no strategic line to victory and the loss was certain because of card/turn order luck.
@obiwancoruscant1024
@obiwancoruscant1024 9 ай бұрын
I will echo the sentiment that there were missteps. Blue hitting your 3 in China was no surprise to me. Splitting those troops off when going to irkutsk to keep an extra position is fine in a high skill lobby, but this early in the tournament was not smart. I had to keep resisting the urge every turn to create additional positions that would be good moves against better opponents. Lower opponents see smaller stacks as weak, and it only takes 1 noob to get the bright idea to slam it, then everyone else can smell your blood in the water. So losing those troops painted a target on your back plus having 5 cards. If you don't lose those troops, and skipped a card, then you only have 4 the turn everyone was trading to kill you. Is it enough to save your game? Maybe not. But there are other moves as well. You were concerned with who was in Falkland Island and Congo when you already knew who was there from your spawn. You could have gone into NA from Venezuela after black didn't fortify central America turn 2 instead of prioritizing a portal that gives you access to only territories you could already see. Taking the yakutsk portal was definitely a bad move. Alternatively if you only want to hit a 1 taking east Africa would have given you vision to 3 new territory and access to the middle of the board where there were apparently a lot of 1s later on. I feel you played too defensive for not skipping a card being player 1. You needed to either see in NA to line up kills and not skip, or skip and have more troops and less cards for defense.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
I like the seven position play for these settings a lot. Sure I can't control the card luck, or the turn order luck or the fact that blue noob slammed my three. I suppose I would hope that someone as high profile as Mitch would know better than to throw in a tournament game. I don't really get anywhere by condescending to my oponents and assuming they're noobs Obi. Similar to why I don't card skip in a tournament. I'd rather be wrong than be the bad guy. @@obiwancoruscant1024
@obiwancoruscant1024
@obiwancoruscant1024 9 ай бұрын
Well if you had a set on 4, we wouldn't even be discussing alternative play lines. Not having that is certainly a death sentence in tourneys. The only out you have is to kill someone to double trade but you weren't lined up for that, and that is still a long shot.
@Low_Rent
@Low_Rent 5 ай бұрын
These videos are not only informative about playing Risk but very relaxing.
@aleksszukovskis2074
@aleksszukovskis2074 3 ай бұрын
cant wait for pete to get silver youtube button
@BeeWarrior_
@BeeWarrior_ 9 ай бұрын
Hi Pete could you make a video showing how to join tournaments for players that have never competed. Thanks 😊.
@SandroBR824
@SandroBR824 9 ай бұрын
I have play this setting in other tournament and its a nightmare with fog, many times happen feed kill
@TheUnknownsShow
@TheUnknownsShow 9 ай бұрын
I think being in too many positions in fog of war is a bad strategy. You were in six/seven positions for most of the game, but you really should've tried to consolidate into three or four positions. Having many positions gives you a lot of information, but given that the other players are unlikely to see all of your positions, they'll underestimate your size, making you the likely first target to get slammed by whomever feels they can get the first kill. I believe this is why you got eliminated first. I believe that this risk vastly outweighs the benefits of the information gained from many positions. For next time, I'd recommend looking for more opportunities to consolidate troops into larger stacks. Anyone who sees a 10+ stack going into their turn probably isn't going to attack you, and anyone who discovers one in the process of trying to kill you will probably give up. Even if it's your last position, it would be difficult for an opportunist to steal the kill without a trade, giving you a chance to trade and come back. When four of your positions get destroyed and your last two are both small, the other players will finish the job, which again is what we saw here in this game.
@espygaming5101
@espygaming5101 9 ай бұрын
Eh. I think its a combination of what you speak of, and going first in turn order, AND his opponents not having as good a read on the positions and strength. For instance, this same play but last in turn order and he is chilling, or this same play and purple not blinding hoping to find all his positions when he only sees 3 because he was counting and knew Pete would have more positions. You saw Pete this whole game counting out territories he could see and adding them up to determine how likely that player was to have more positions. It is clear purple didn't do this at all, or nearly as well since he decided on the very low odds of going for the kill with little to know information. That said, I can promise Pete is far better at this game then either me or you, and we obviously have hindsight. He played a good game and got fairly unlucky in multiple ways, but as Pete says himself, some times that's just how the cookie crumbles.
@TheUnknownsShow
@TheUnknownsShow 9 ай бұрын
@espygaming5101 Very true. Purple not counting Pete's positions is my point. He didn't see all of Pete, and to him, what he doesn't see doesn't exist, so he assumes the few weak territories he sees are everything, encouraging him to slam Pete. Had several of those territories that Purple saw been consolidated into one large stack, I believe Purple would have been much less likely to attack Pete. Mitigating this risk of any other player being led to believe you're much weaker than you are by consolidating positions is what I believe to be the better strategy in fog of war than being too spread out and relatively weak in each one, as you're more likely to stay alive longer and are better able to capitalize on opportunities near your large stacks. Even if Pete survived longer in his many positions, it would have been difficult for him to take advantage of opportunities without a trade unless someone else messed up super hard.
@OuroBoros_Games
@OuroBoros_Games 9 ай бұрын
i think this game was a hard one to consolidate troops together for not saying impossible, he had very bad luck on it. Maybe giving up some territories would be good even if it is just to make move the people, but is was absolute not easy, and there was not safe play, and stacking probably would have not make difference to him.
@espygaming5101
@espygaming5101 9 ай бұрын
@@TheUnknownsShow I understood your point, but i think that is a problem of the tournament not having the highest caliber of players, not of Pete's play. Generally speaking you will ALWAYS be harder to kill in multiple positions, I understand your thought of "appearing" weak. Which is a true thought, but that is dependent on players making big mistakes, such as purple did. If he is in one or two positions he is a MUCH easier kill, especially with good players because they will count his positions and notice he is only in 2-3 and much more likely to have a viable line on him. He was SO difficult to kill from multiple positions that not only did 1 fail to kill him with a set, A second ALSO failed 1 turn later to kill him with a set. Now I agree appearing strong can be good, but say he was in 3 positions and purple had vision on all 3? he was still dead. Purple could only see 3 positions, meaning they went for the kill knowing very little, with less positions especially if purple could see them, they would only have MORE confidence to see if the kill is viable. For instance, if he is in one spot, and has a 33 stack, Purple should know that is his only position, because they can count the rounds and know he isn't on a bonus or anything. That 33 might be scary looking, but it also become, "oh, I can set and have a 46 stack. I absolutely can kill Pete right now"
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
how did your experience of the four psn play work out in practice?
@gamers_1
@gamers_1 9 ай бұрын
Nice game pete as always 👍❤️❤️🔥❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥❤️
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 😁
@Josh-tb9yq
@Josh-tb9yq 9 ай бұрын
Bad luck Pete, did what you could.
@vexedimpulse
@vexedimpulse 8 ай бұрын
I accidentally watch round 3 before this. Even though I found out what was going to happen I still wanted to see with my own eyes. You’ve had terrible luck this tournament but don’t give up. I enjoy watching these games too much haha
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's pretty disappointing that I don't get to play because of that. Let someone else enjoy the glory and I'll be back and hopefully at my best next time.
@BartHuizinga
@BartHuizinga 9 ай бұрын
Yeah these settings are unfortunate when people don't count stacks - Purple should know you were in Australia (till 21:25) and Svalbard (11:35) Purple also had a stack in Ontario, Kamchatka and Venezuela so he could see you were not in America - that leaves two more spots (Africa and Japan) which he easily could have checked and which probably gives him the kill I really love progressive, but when people don't properly count troops / remember positions feeds will happen and that's unfortunate
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
I think purple saw me in NZ at the beginning of the game.
@masongronen4988
@masongronen4988 9 ай бұрын
Yes for these settings/map I would have fog off probably.
@mattdaraitis4253
@mattdaraitis4253 9 ай бұрын
I get progressive is part of the game and everything, but it feels way more luck based than fixed games are, unfortunate loss there, the no set on 4 is an absolute bummer
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
I think the settings are very skillful but that said there is still a large percentage of games like this one where you just have no chance due to luck
@ikari38460
@ikari38460 9 ай бұрын
red and purple are allie for sure : all new red troops "+X" is in purple ! X)
@TheShizz011
@TheShizz011 9 ай бұрын
The noob slams are painful to take 😂
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
You're telling me man
@Zer0_2199
@Zer0_2199 9 ай бұрын
Let's see if Pete goes for the Australia 😂
@GeraldYardson
@GeraldYardson 9 ай бұрын
Pretty low to jump on a man when' he's down, but I don't even play Risk, so I'm on the outside looking in, hoping my joke's don't fall flat.
@codyboyd3925
@codyboyd3925 9 ай бұрын
Lmao you jumping over arco when saying good players very funny
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Dude Arco's like the best player
@jeheudel3711
@jeheudel3711 8 ай бұрын
Maybe there's a good reason for this (I haven't played RISK with compounding trade-ins in a while), but why not skip your first trade in at 5 cards? Surely you won't die from missing those 4 troops (not even mentioning the fact that all other trade-ins in that turn will have less troops as well) while those 5 cards will massively increase in value for every trade-in that other people do. Just a thought. Nice vid!
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 8 ай бұрын
I think in this case if I skip a card I'm even more dead.
@rusty7104
@rusty7104 9 ай бұрын
good luck next week pete
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'll try my best.
@TVFILMBUFF
@TVFILMBUFF 9 ай бұрын
From watching your previous matches and learning to get better at risk... would you not agree that emoting the "oops"/"Goodgame" broadcasts you were on the ropes? 1st position is rough, but giving extra info might have incited more attacks. Blue saw the Venezuela and Siberia deaths and red saw the Europe loses... so they both knew you were low. But emoting it would have given both of them the courage to go for it thinking they had your last stack.
@Repleh
@Repleh 9 ай бұрын
The “Oops” was to signalize to the attacking player that they did not have all of his positions. Pete was trying to tell them not to hit his stack and not to feed. By the time that one or two of his stacks get hit it’s basically over regardless of what he does. The only chance he has was to emote the “Oops” and hope he wouldn’t get attacked in the first place. The fact that it’s a tournament (which generally has a higher standard of play) also impacts the calculus. In a public lobby I’d doubt that Pete does these signals.
@TVFILMBUFF
@TVFILMBUFF 9 ай бұрын
@@Repleh How often does emoting "oops" stop someone from continuing an attack vs. how often do people playing in fog chicken out of a kill if they don't think they have all the info and are not emboldened by emote desperation.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Not having a set broadcast that I was on the ropes. The oops was singalling that they were feeding my kill, which they were.
@truth_powers
@truth_powers 8 ай бұрын
You played the best you could the whole game this is how most fog games go down. Starting to wonder if having too many positions is harmful in these settings cuz people underestimate how many stacks you have
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 8 ай бұрын
The only thing being in less places would have accomplished in this case means instead of kill-feeding the person who went more my kill would have been more likely to be successful.
@Yuhisern
@Yuhisern 7 ай бұрын
Bro I’m so new , but I’ve been getting 2nd place often , hard to get no.1
@MrJaimejhs
@MrJaimejhs 9 ай бұрын
On that last turn where you were on 5 cards staying in Ukraine or any nexus territory for that matter is suicide and indeed you died
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
There's no real way to communicate with players to tell them they don't have you if they aren't able to count. The positioning I'm reasonably happy with. The card luck not so much.
@CHEFconfit
@CHEFconfit 9 ай бұрын
I wish I died with bad luck in my game. My game the stars were aligned until I was fed. Was 4th in turn order. Had 7 positions on board with set on 4 in 2nd trade ins. Had perfect llines on player after me in 5th position. Top grandmaster on turn before me tried to kill me but only saw 5 positions so I was fed easily. Last place….
@CHEFconfit
@CHEFconfit 9 ай бұрын
I think being an inactive unknown player was also part of problem. Grandmaster probably went for my kill thinking I’m low skilled and didn’t expect me to have so many positions.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
I don't know that being known vs being less well known has as much of an effect on people going for your kills on these settings as some think it does. These settings would be much more skillfull without fog.
@zacharygrouwinkel1534
@zacharygrouwinkel1534 9 ай бұрын
Had the auto Aus spawn. Can’t believe you didn’t play it😂
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
omg don't give these people ammunition.
@teknik3980
@teknik3980 9 ай бұрын
Pete, what should we do in progressive europe when the other guys let one guy get 20+ per turn?
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Play for second?
@mr.jay1150
@mr.jay1150 9 ай бұрын
Do we know when Round 3 will be played?
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
It's also fog so I won't be able to stream. I'm playing tonight
@TesterIsDone
@TesterIsDone 9 ай бұрын
No Oceanía No Win!
@TopLevelJiuJitsu
@TopLevelJiuJitsu 9 ай бұрын
Seems to be a huge disadvantage to going 1st in progressive
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Yeah man, definitely not my favourite seat.
@n8style
@n8style 9 ай бұрын
brutal, bad luck man, to be fair it shows your skill with it taking 3 different people to kill you, still smarts though
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Hahaha it usually goes something like that.
@trogdor5346
@trogdor5346 9 ай бұрын
Wheres the love for Arco?
@TheRealgoodlike
@TheRealgoodlike 9 ай бұрын
Truthpowers!!!!
@Dynamikcheese
@Dynamikcheese 9 ай бұрын
Card skip viable in this scenario or no?
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Card skipping would have made me even more dead in this case.
@jdklein033
@jdklein033 9 ай бұрын
Hey Pete, I surely can’t be the first one to tell you this, but I actually think the “kill” in your name and you saying it in your videos may hamper the growth of your channel. I believe it’s proven that the KZbin algo picks up in that word and adjust recommendations accordingly. Just some food for thought,
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Yeah we might be too far gone with this one. I'd be curious what happens with FreePete and if we start seeing major growth over there we could pivot potentially.
@thelosts9940
@thelosts9940 9 ай бұрын
I got spoiler when i looked at the score spreadsheet to search up my name (im monte chinen) i got a kill in 2nd round but couldnt get the win but that kept me alive so i got 11 points which was very good for not winning. All thanks to you since ive only learnt about this game through your vids. Much luck to you for the 3rd round bc zombies can be tough luck ❤❤.
@thelosts9940
@thelosts9940 9 ай бұрын
I was next to last position and feel lucky that i got to my 2nd set. All my previous practice game on the last two positions didnt see me survive /game ended before me setting 2nd time so its quite annoying. I got a kill on the last player and i feel kindda bad about it bc it was just placement. In that game i even got my 7 stack on portal slammed by a bot bc we were missing a player.
@thelosts9940
@thelosts9940 9 ай бұрын
Prob why that kill wasnt enough to get to 70%.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Well here's hoping that if I get equivalently good luck this week I'll be fine.
@OiBaoBao
@OiBaoBao 9 ай бұрын
Pete is a very intelligent player but part of the game is luck the unlucky positioning and everything seemed to be against him this game
@XXX1NELSON1XXX
@XXX1NELSON1XXX 9 ай бұрын
it wasnt unlucky position in my view. it was a few bad decisions from other players that costed him, and them the game. going for a kill like that when they were sure he had more troops hidden elsewere (or worse, they didnt even count the troops they could see) was just a coin toss they did. costing them, and others the game. AKA NOOBSLAM.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Yeah this game is one of those examples of a game where you just lose to luck.
@schongemeldet1
@schongemeldet1 9 ай бұрын
Algorithm boost 🔥
@user-oh6wo6uy4n
@user-oh6wo6uy4n 9 ай бұрын
Broo your gut told you to skip a card being in the first spot and you ignored it... that would have changed the game drastically getting the 20 set the turn before. I'm so sorry brother I'm rooting for you
@TheTruemanBoi
@TheTruemanBoi 9 ай бұрын
Pete has always being against skiping cards as for him is just a loss of time and a disrespect to the others players, if you skip a card the second may also skip a card to not be the first one to set, then the next skips a card, later the next and so on.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Hahaha my gut wouldn't have told me to skip a card in a tournament game. I'm pretty sure that just would have made me even more dead anyways.
@zachford5006
@zachford5006 9 ай бұрын
For the algo
@glenjamindle
@glenjamindle 9 ай бұрын
You were emoting and telling on yourself. I thought you always said NEVER do that?
@Repleh
@Repleh 9 ай бұрын
He was emoting to try to manipulate the players not to kill him (by signalling he had more positions). Once a player sees one of Pete’s stacks get hit, it’s basically over as all players will hunt him for 5 cards. Emoting was the only possible way to survive.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Not so. The oopsing was sincere. It wasn't a bluff. He didn't have me, he was feeding my kill to the next guy.
@ThePandaK1ng
@ThePandaK1ng 9 ай бұрын
Good game, got unlucky with no vision and 1st. Only thing I could say you could have done different was not emoting at the end when purple and red went for the kills. Maybe someone would have missed that you only had 2 positions left.
@ThePandaK1ng
@ThePandaK1ng 9 ай бұрын
Also maybe could have card skipped on the first trades, but thats just as risky and wouldve set you a card behind everyone
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Nice! Glad the luck went your way
@TehJumpingJawa
@TehJumpingJawa 9 ай бұрын
Not a fan of that rule config.
@davidstears7037
@davidstears7037 9 ай бұрын
First seat on that meta is the most sucky. Never seen anyone win from it, especially if you get early short stacked. Oh well! We know you're a good player. Lol
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
Yeah man, going early really isn't for me.
@davidstears7037
@davidstears7037 9 ай бұрын
@@TheKillPeteStrategy As me. My favourite position in a 6 person game is typically 4th or 5th depending on map. Your's?
@afaigni92
@afaigni92 8 ай бұрын
Man I get that the luck can be against you. But calling your opponents noobs feels a bit salty. Better luck next round regardless!
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 8 ай бұрын
I didn't call anyone noobs. Noob slam refers to this particular type of kill-feed
@amtkjohn
@amtkjohn 9 ай бұрын
I’m kinda surprised. That was a horrible play my Mitch. Honestly if it was any other player he doesn’t attempt that play.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
I don't think I was targeted. I think it was highly likely that someone in that seat would attempt and feed my kill. So much so that I predicted it and that's exactly how it went
@laura_wargo
@laura_wargo 8 ай бұрын
ngl, i watch for reggie
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 8 ай бұрын
😻😻😻 I love that boy
@codyhellman3694
@codyhellman3694 8 ай бұрын
U should of took Australia instead of going for America
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 8 ай бұрын
That was my first mistake!
@stevesartain5804
@stevesartain5804 9 ай бұрын
Hi Pete, mummmm, yes .. I just don't understand the portals, why are they on the game, noone really used them.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
We couldn't because people stacked on them
@chasehuggins7722
@chasehuggins7722 9 ай бұрын
Your 3 stack could get killed because of any motive, like he lost 1 troop and possibly rallied into a better position. You saying Noob Slam has to be the least articulate assumption your strategy expresses. I love your content and have been supporting, but your ego is hilarious.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
The turn before I chose not to hit a 3 for vision. It's a noob play. You're free to disagree. There's a chance I have no idea what I'm talking about.
@ScottHasADog
@ScottHasADog 9 ай бұрын
Purple shouldn’t be allowed in the tournament. The mental math of clearly that’s not going to get a kill was so bad. Can’t have players like that in tournaments.
@CheddahSlammer
@CheddahSlammer 9 ай бұрын
Higer level players tend to miscount when their nerves are jittering.
@TheKillPeteStrategy
@TheKillPeteStrategy 9 ай бұрын
I can't even be mad in the scenario because it was so predictable I called exactly what was gonna happen.
@RoyalJoker15
@RoyalJoker15 9 ай бұрын
70% prog 👎
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