Note for the Royal Armouries editor: shoot for -6db to -3db for audio normalization. Most RA videos are rather quiet, but Jonathan's bit in this video is nearly inaudible on normal setups.
@Ndrew556 Жыл бұрын
I think they’re applying some sort of filter, maybe it was a busy day at the museum
@nicholasvaultonburg9152 Жыл бұрын
@@Ndrew556 No doubt a busy day. The KZbin presence is secondary (or tertiary, even) to foot traffic and the facility, so it's understandably low priority. However, the production quality otherwise, aside from Jonathan's class defining presentation, is overall highly polished. Just a quick audio correction before exporting would bring the KZbin page to top shape. Def some kind of filter, though not sure what.
@5Andysalive Жыл бұрын
this must have been an accident. It's not normally this bad.
@Ndrew556 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasvaultonburg9152 to isolate Jonathan’s voice from the background noise, I didn’t explain myself properly lol, as in “there was a lot of noise in the background so they isolated his voice”
@nicholasvaultonburg9152 Жыл бұрын
@@Ndrew556 Ahh, that'd make sense. Tough thing to clean up if that's the case. His voice does have the hints of a low pass filter.
@oscarxkee7921 Жыл бұрын
I like to think that Johnathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, carried this to the table with his tiny curator arms
@Stevo_1998 Жыл бұрын
Secretly under his blazer he actually has arms that rival Arnold Schwarzenegger Mans got biceps on top of his biceps
@alexroger6359 Жыл бұрын
One arm. He had the drum and belt feeders in the other.
@dvorgaz Жыл бұрын
@@Stevo_1998 does that count as concealed carry ?
@clivemathieu938611 ай бұрын
Wrecked
@haaxeu65018 ай бұрын
you forgot "which houses thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history"
@martinluton6513 Жыл бұрын
As an aviation guy rather than an arms guy it’s really impressive to hear the presenter, primarily an arms guy, have such a sound appreciation of both the engineering of the aircraft and the way it is operated.
@Shvonder_Alexandrovich6 ай бұрын
He just likes shootas and engineering plus he's true expert
@knightofarnor2552 Жыл бұрын
I approve of that thumbnail pun.
@XO_Keo Жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@samholdsworth420 Жыл бұрын
Very punny 😅
@orkstuff5635 Жыл бұрын
Sweet presentation but can you do something with Jonathan's sound levels - listening on headphones I had to turn up Jonathan's spiel which left the IWM bit quite loud and the adverts bloody deafening. Other than that, pretty informative because I'd never have believed that drum mag would have fitted inside a Spitfire wing before seeing this vid.
@BradBrassman Жыл бұрын
I have a 20mm hispano cannon shell and shell-head that was taken as a souvenir by my grandfather who was a Police Officer in rural Leicestershire during WW2. In rural areas there was no air raid warning system except for Police telephones and my father told me that, “ on one occasion a report of a lone enemy aircraft was telephoned in.” Indeed, in 1942 with the R.A.F. bombing of the historic towns of Lubeck and Rostock, there were a number of reprisal raids, which targeted places of cultural significance, known as Baedeker raids which was a series of aerial attacks in April and May 1942 by the German Luftwaffe on English cities during the Second World War. The name derives from Baedeker, a series of German tourist guide books, including detailed maps, which were used to select targets for bombing. After one such raid, a lone, fast twin engine aircraft was spotted in the area and my grandfather went out to investigate the report. Whether he saw the plane I do not know, but two Spitfires from somewhere close-by -possibly R.A.F. Newton- were scrambled to intercept and shot at the fleeing plane, which was obviously lost. The Spitfire by this time had these 20mm Hispano cannons and my grandfatherr picked up two spent cannon shells off the road which had been ejected from one of the fighters involved in the chase. Then, a little further down the road he spotted a piece of the tailplane a field, with the unexploded head of a 20mm cannon shell still lodged in it, which he also retrieved as a souvenir! These two spent cannon shells and accompanying shell head stood on the mantelpiece at my Nan's one of which is now in my care, along with the shell-head, which, slots neatly into the shell casing. Being interested in all things wartime as a youngster, I was always fascinated by these old shells which I used to pick up and examine every chance I got, and polished faithfully every Saturday after my shopping jobs for Nan! On one occasion when granddad was still with us, he told me to look at the end of the shell-head which had the letters BMARC on it which he told me, was British Manufacturing and Research Company (Marco’s) of Springfield Road, Grantham, to which he further added, “it didn’t travel very far did it?” which of course meant from its manufacture in an arms factory in Grantham, to farmland somewhere near Tilton on the Hill! The base of the shell casing is marked K2 1942 which coincides with an early fitting of 20mm Hispano cannons to Spitfires that same year. As you say, initially these were not popular with the pilots because of the tendency of this type of cannon to jam. The fact that it had been fired from a Spitfire was confirmed for me by an ex-R.A.F. armourer that I met in 2002 in Bakewell, who told me that, “if it was fired by a Spitfire, it should have a neat dent-line, two thirds of the way up the shell casing which was made by the ejector mechanism in the Spitfire wing, which worked by clockwork”, which indeed it has!
@agentmueller Жыл бұрын
Great story, great writing. I enjoyed your comment very much, props to your granddad and of course props to you for preserving that family heirloom.
@mattpocka2948 Жыл бұрын
I have one that was found near Parks in NSW Australia. A former training area. It has "BBC 1941 20MM" And it still has the belt link on it.
@frankmitchell3594 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. When I was young I lived near Melton Mowbray and a local farmer told me about finding a cannon round in a field. He tried to remove the shell from the cartridge, with a hammer, but it exploded. He still had his fingers and hands so he must have been lucky.
@michaelpielorz9283 Жыл бұрын
funny to see the good old WWII propaganda is still alive.
@BradBrassman Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed! Our shell head was still live and hadnt gone off due to a milling mistake. Another interesting aside regarding this wartime souvenir occurred in 1956 when my father was on leave from his National Service in the Royal Engineers in Germany. Having completed some courses on ammunition and its safe disposal, he found that, on inspection, the shell head was an exploding type, which as it was found in one piece, was obviously still live, and promptly disarmed it! “To think” he said, “being kept on a mantel piece, over an open fire, that it not been heated or dropped, was something of a miracle, as if it had, it could of course have exploded!” @@frankmitchell3594
@Rhidongo Жыл бұрын
If my grandfather were still alive, he'd have loved this video. He purchased one at a military auction when I was a kid. I never knew what it was until he casually mentioned he had an AA cannon that he was working on (I woulda been about 16 at that time)
@LukSter189989 ай бұрын
lucky you
@swright56904 ай бұрын
Registered/transferable? USA? I suspect there are a few on the NFTR.
@Rhidongo4 ай бұрын
@@swright5690 Why would you purchase a gun at an auction that you can't own... I'm not American, though. We can have full auto here with the right requirements.
@acid6urns2 ай бұрын
@@swright5690a 20mm cannon would be registered as a DD not a machine gun or nfa item. you’d apply for a DD license and would need a stamp for every bit of ammo.
@johnlshilling1446 Жыл бұрын
Props to Johnathan! His presentations are always far more interesting and packed full of -- relevant -- trivia than any other historians I've come across. Well done, Johnny-boy!
@juusolatva Жыл бұрын
I didn't expect to see an autocannon, but I definitely like it.
@samholdsworth420 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you are pronouncing Cannon like you're a frenchy 😊
@bakters Жыл бұрын
Mee too. I feel like a teen finally seeing the contents of a bra.
@samholdsworth420 Жыл бұрын
@@bakters what's a bra
@bakters Жыл бұрын
@@samholdsworth420 " *what's a bra* " I've been told today that "everything is an opinion", so I guess it's gotta be one of those...?
@samholdsworth420 Жыл бұрын
@@bakters I think bras are like cups for men who identify as women 🧐 I could be wrong though
@ericadams3428 Жыл бұрын
The early Beaufighter night fighters had the ammo drums and the radar operator had to change four of them which was a complete nightmare in the dark until replaced by belt feeds.
@alexturnbackthearmy19078 ай бұрын
At least they were more reliable this way. British were definitely not fans of their 20mm`s.
@runaway_slav Жыл бұрын
To add on to the comments about low volume, it would in no way bother me if there was a clamp-on table/clip-on shirt microphone for when less than ideal noise conditions are present. I'm here for the mechanism to tickle my 'tism. Keep up the great work, shout out that LadLuty
@olivergentschog Жыл бұрын
A vídeo about the mg 151 would also be interesting.
@robinwatters572 Жыл бұрын
I was with the Special Constabulary in Manchester in the early seventies and heard this tale, whether it's true or not I'm not sure but I was assured so at the time. Chap came into the police station and asks if the no questions asked firearms amnesty was still in force. On being told this was so, he said I have a gun to hand in. Sergeant says "well, bring it in then". Chap says he'd need a lift. Turns out to be a 20mm aircraft cannon in the back of his van!
@baanibarnes9711 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I have been building kits of Spitfires, Hurricanes etc for years and have always been puzzled by the apparently simple looking design of the Hispano 20mm cannon. Many mysteries now solved thanks to your superb break-down of this widely used gun, many thanks, would love to see more of these on other weapons such as the heavy cannons used by the Luftwaffe.
@roygardiner2229 Жыл бұрын
That was terrific! I was born in WWII so always had a keen interest in the RAF fighters. Until a few years ago I thought the Spitfire and Hurricane were equipped only with machine guns but someone told me about the cannons. This video really showed how the latter worked. Thank you!
@wanderschlosser1857 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they realized pretty quickly that the .30 cal machine guns weren't sufficient even with 8 or 12 of them installed. Especially against bombers. And the German fighters showed how well canon/machine gun combinations worked.
@JohnyG298 ай бұрын
You really can't of had a "keen interest" if you've only just found this out.
@radiozelaza Жыл бұрын
funnily, in Poland before WW2, a 20mm rapid-firing auto-loading gun was just called NKM (Heaviest Machine Gun), to distinguish it from a CKM (Heavy Machine Gun) which would be a 7,62mm gun like Maxim). Only after WW2 there appeared a separate term for a .50cal machine gun as WKM (large-caliber machine gun), introduced by the Soviets, while the 20mm NKMs and above were renamed to autocannons ("działko" - little cannon).
@coffeecodecameras Жыл бұрын
I guess NKM is Najcięższy karabin maszynowy, CKM is Cięższy, and WKM is Wielki ?
@radiozelaza Жыл бұрын
CKM is Ciężki (Heavy) and WKM is Wielkokalibrowy (Large-Caliber) which is a direct translation from Russian (krupnokalibyerniy). @@coffeecodecameras
@coffeecodecameras Жыл бұрын
dzięki 🙂 @@radiozelaza
@radiozelaza Жыл бұрын
good Polish btw :) @@coffeecodecameras
@Poverty-Tier Жыл бұрын
Finally! I’ve been waiting on a Hispano cannon video for years. There’s a WWII submarine memorial in a park where I live in Marquette, Mi and on the mockup conning tower there are a pair of anti-air autocannons. I was well familiar with the Oerlikon from Ian’s work and these cannons on the memorial were clearly not that. They almost look like someone asked a metal worker to fabricate something that looks like a period autocannon, made out of scrap, but the more times I checked these guns out, I saw features like the gas piston that meant this has to be the real gun. I knew next to nothing about the Hispano and the online pictures aren’t great, but I assumed these mystery guns must be Hispanos because what else would they be? Damn it feels good to have my suspicions validated.
@jonesy279 Жыл бұрын
As an Aussie, Spitfire MkVc/Trop is the iconic (and my favourite) spitfire to me. I just love everything about it!
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn39358 ай бұрын
Poor low level performance, Zeros and FW 190s had superior two speed superchargers giving high performance over a wider altitude band. Much better Spitfire VIIIs were sent east later.
@odie7764 Жыл бұрын
Nice collaboration, I hope we see more.
@roygardiner2229 Жыл бұрын
Great comment! It made for a much more complete story.
@DemianX6x6x6X Жыл бұрын
great video as always! sidenote; the audio on this video was much lower than anything else just saying
@mars_man9971 Жыл бұрын
I have been researching the Hispano series for quite a while, they are very interesting guns and the US development in particular is a rabbithole of versions and variants. Got myself one now and gathering parts to get it running again.
@mars_man9971 Жыл бұрын
For anyone interested in the mechanics of this in depth, look up "The Machine Gun" By Col George Chinn, they were amazing books made for the navy so they are freely available as PDFs online, volume one but more particularly volume III has a wonderfully long segment on the different versions and mechanics.
@builder396 Жыл бұрын
The favorite thing for me that came out of US Hispano development was them trying to put it in the P-400 fighter, realizing the gun just doesnt really work, and slapping in the 37mm M4 instead and calling it the P-39 Airacobra.
@mars_man9971 Жыл бұрын
@@builder396 the US basically screwed up their hispano production from the start and the issues followed those guns for the rest of the service life Book is a good read to learn about it
@mpetersen6 Жыл бұрын
@@builder396 The P-39 was designed with a single 37mm autocannon and a mix of two .30 and .50 MGs to start with. Fairly hard hitting but lower velocity. The P-400s built for the RAF were re-designed with to take the 20mm. They tried some Airacobras and said politely. Not only no, but bloody NO. The saga of the US production of 20mm Hipano cannon is a sad one. From what I understand the fault lay not with the manufacturer so much as the Board of Ordinance. They screwed up when converting the drawings to inches from metric. Not in the as print dimensions. But in the tolerancing system being used. When the British inspected some of the early ones they commented on just how beautifully made they were *. They just couldn't use them. Also the first US fighters equipped with cannon (P-38 and P-39) were also built with with a system to clear jams. The P-38 had 20mm right from the start. *Oldsmobile was the contractor iirc. The BoO also messed up with the drawings for the MG-42 when they tried to copy it. I'm not sure just what type of tolerancing system the that HS used but even so converting the values should not have been a problem. I guess the designer at BoO wasn't allowed to take his shoes off that day to do higher mathematics.
@Mr_Dopey8 ай бұрын
I've always been curious why these didn't fire shot shells. I would think if each round fired 15-20 half inch ball bearings, it would be very effective against the aircraft of the time.
@Glowkitminecraft Жыл бұрын
My grandad was in the polish Air Force during the war and flew spitfires, then mustangs. 0:00 He thought that 6x .50 cal machine guns was the better armament for the time. He also mentioned that there was a significant loss of airspeed when you fired a long burst from the cannon in the spitfire.
@bakters Жыл бұрын
" *6x .50 cal machine guns was the better armament for the time* " Even if it was better, it was much heavier setup, and it would never fit in a Spit. Regardless, it wasn't a better setup. The Brits both considered and even did extensive tests on .50 cals before the war. It turned out that while they did hit a bit harder, the effectiveness was largely reduced if the rounds tumbled while passing through the outer skin of the plane. They decided that fifties weren't worth it. For the same weight, you could do just about as well with a bunch of thirties, and for the long run they knew right away they will need cannons. As it turned out, they were correct.
@SmedleyDouwright Жыл бұрын
@@bakters Didn't the RAF put .50 cals in late war Spitfires?
@bakters Жыл бұрын
@@SmedleyDouwright " *Didn't the RAF put .50 cals in late war Spitfires?* " Yes, but it was basically because it was better to have two fifties than two thirties as the MGs. Technically the Spit used to have two thirties in each wing (and a hispano), but the outboard .30 cals weren't really worth it. They hardly ever hit and they had a disproportional impact on performance, so at least some aces were ford of removing those outboard emgees. One inboard fifty was surely better than a spread out pair, so that was the decision, as far as I understand it. BTW - One of the guys known for removing the outboard MGs was Jan Zumbach. His Spit with a characteristic Donald Duck nose art is pictured everywhere. You've seen it many times for sure. So it's likely that this Spit had the outboard MGs removed. BTW - I'm curious if the grandpa of the OP ever met Jan Zumbach.
@Glowkitminecraft Жыл бұрын
Perhaps I should have phrased that differently. He preferred to go to war in the mustang. Obviously comparing the armament across different aircraft flying different missions requires a longer discussion than a KZbin comment section.
@Glowkitminecraft Жыл бұрын
Sadly my grandad passed some years ago but I'll ask my aunt if she knows.
@F1ghteR41 Жыл бұрын
The video is for the most part too quiet, which is a pity, for the topic is quite interesting, especially with such levels of detail. Speaking of which, I was expecting to see the lockwork in more detail. 1:44 Well, judging by the standard given you could say that 1 pdr Maxim guns, the so called 'Pom-poms', dating back to the end of the nineteenth century and used in both Second Anglo-Boer and First World wars, would be the first autocannons. If, however, you meant to say 'aircraft-mounted autocannon', then one has to mention Becker's Type M2, the progenitor of the Oerlikon's S and FF autocannons, which also goes back to WW1. 1:53 Wasn't its main drawback the fact that it wasn't Hispano Suiza's own design, and they had to pay for it to Oerlikon? 12:26 Certainly from the weight point of view it is, and that matters a lot for planes.
@samwise7538 Жыл бұрын
I've noticed a few of their videos have the volume down too low unfortunately.
@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries Жыл бұрын
The audio is out of my hands unfortunately, and there just isn't time to cover the mechanical side in detail as well as the historical aspects. I'm encouraged to do 15 minutes and frequently go well over that as it is :) 1:44 - You could, yes, but they didn't - obviously there are historical forerunners for most things but I'm talking here about how similar weapons came to be called "cannon". The 1pr Maxim was never referred to as a "cannon". 1:53 - quite possibly. Not something that I came across whilst researching but it would make sense. But designers always think they can beat each other.
@Twilit777 Жыл бұрын
Almost all these videos are way too quiet. It's in part Jonathan's natural tone and in part poor sound mixing. I suspect they don't have a professional sound engineer who could easily offset the issue. I do wish they'd invest in some time or money in a pass on the sound.
@F1ghteR41 Жыл бұрын
@@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries I see, thanks for comment.
@mattheweagles5123 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video content and presentation wise. Got to knock a point off for the sound though.
@mrfrosty3 Жыл бұрын
This cleared up a lot of my wrongheadedness about auto cannons. Another great video.
@rob1129 Жыл бұрын
So it is the same Hispano Suiza as the car company
@F1ghteR41 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they went from cars to also making aircraft engines before the WW1 (because both engines & customers were basically the same at the time), then added wing-mounted cannons to diversify their business again, and then combined the latter two areas to make this gun.
@myparceltape1169 Жыл бұрын
And the coffee maker machine. First saw a design in 1966 and latterly in 2019
@hstwodrainage.1410 Жыл бұрын
Your microphone is not working.
@SkySpiderGirl Жыл бұрын
Really low audio balance again this video. Thank goodness for auto subtitle. Even if it is a bit weird on some words
@invertedpolarity6890 Жыл бұрын
Please turn your audio up. Sound is very low from this video.
@ricardodavidson38133 ай бұрын
Great video. Perhaps a mention of the installations on the Beufighter and Mosquito would have been welcome. The first installations in the Beaufighter were magazine fed and required the observer to leave his radar display and come and change the drums, in the dark and in a moving aircraft. See "Night fighter" Rawnsley, C. F..
@dwightevans8545 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent showing and description of that beautiful 20mm monster.
@Trevor_Austin Жыл бұрын
That was an excellent video although the sound was somewhat lacking. You should mentally separate g from attitude. The two are not related. You can be upside down pulling 1 g (or 3 g) or the “the right way up” at zero g. Air-to-air gunnery typically requires the hunter to turn towards and aim at a point ahead of where their target is flying. The hope is that the target flies into their projectiles’ path. The task of computing “lead” was aided by the gyroscopic gunsight. Before these it was pretty much a hit or miss affair with the preponderance towards the latter.
@oldfriend3274 ай бұрын
Was that same one on the Korean War era Corsairs?
@OliverXRed Жыл бұрын
If you one in your collection, it would be interesting to see a video with the Hispano's main contemporary, the MG 151/20.
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 Жыл бұрын
The nazis used low velocity, low rate of fire blow back operated Oerlikons in the Bf 109E. They were used later in the _Jazz Music_ upwards firing night fighter installation.
@JohnyG298 ай бұрын
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 The Me109E also only had 60 rounds per cannon.
@moistmike4150 Жыл бұрын
Excellent description of the HS cannon system! I've always wondered what sort of mechanisms they were using to knock down Axis aircraft.
@Redchrome1 Жыл бұрын
This video was definitely not long enough. I feel there was so much material hinted at but not covered. We need a part 2 for this.
@kennedyfellows-coffey2257 Жыл бұрын
I’m heading to the museum today can’t wait to see it all
@grassmann028 Жыл бұрын
sound issues?
@simonwright92267 ай бұрын
Had one dug up back in the day close to what was RAF Bishops Court... Had it in the armoury for a clean up for ages...always wondered what a full y restored one would look like
@chapmasi Жыл бұрын
I always remember this from the Pattern Room when I worked at the RA. It was down at the bottom behind a wall of racks and I always loved the huge drum magazine. Great times
@jameshealy4594 Жыл бұрын
Hey Jonathan, thanks for another great video! As an Aussie I predominantly use metric but because of my age I'm quite fluent in Imperial too so please forgive my confusion. When you say 7.9 feet, do you mean 7 feet 9 inches or 7 feet and 9/10ths of a foot or something I haven't even considered? I'm a little confused by this on a regular basis and suspect it's an artifact of people jumping between both systems but I'm never sure!
@robinwhitebeam3955 Жыл бұрын
We had the metric inch and foot taught at school ( Sutton Coldfield,UK ), but it did not catch on all that much in engineering companies.
@basslinedan2 Жыл бұрын
7.9ft would be 7 feet and 9/10ths of a foot. It's a decimal feet measurement.
@brucemacallan6831 Жыл бұрын
0:55. I believe the French called it a canon due to the shape. I speak Portuguese, which same as French, is a Latin based language. ‘Canó’ is Portuguese for pipe. So I think ‘canon’ must be French for a pipe shaped item is some way.
@DoubleyouCeeGee Жыл бұрын
Would love to see another vid on the Mk V Hispano if you've got one as well.
@pkre707 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on auto-cannon ammunition types?
@rashkavar7 ай бұрын
My grandfather served in the War, and one of the things I inherited from him is a lighter built out of an unfired round from one of these beasts. It doesn't work anymore, but it seems like the lighter fluid would go where the cordite goes and the bullet is unaltered. (Obviously not a high-ex bullet, that would not be a good choice for a lighter body.) It's a neat little bit of history to have around.
@PLAYINGAROUND Жыл бұрын
Sound is a little quiet folks this week.
@juzma94 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was just my phone.
@SpruceReduce8854 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathan, I've been waiting a long time to see a video on a Hispano Suiza
@haslammmo9173 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathan. I love the videos and heard RA in Leeds was a blast when my parents visited a few months back. I have a small suggestion for the channel. Could you possibly boost the overall audio levels ? I always need to turn up my volume manually to hear your commentary, which then leads to ads and the next video being blaringly loud. thanks !
@julianmhall Жыл бұрын
*chuckles* reminds me of the novel 'Sharpe's Command' which I read the other day. Lieutenant Love (predictably called Cupid behind his back) was in the artillery, and said it seemed appropriate as his father was a canon. Sgt Harper thought he meant /cannon/ so decided Love was as mad as a box of frogs :)
@GiggleBlizzard Жыл бұрын
I really love these videos but I sincerely wish the audio levels were better - most of these videos are incredibly quiet and I always have to turn my volume way up specifically for these videos.
@donepearce Жыл бұрын
The early Spitfire's armament was the result of calculations made by 13 year old Hazel Hill. She worked out that it needed at least eight machine guns rather than the four it was originally destined for.
@LeCharles07 Жыл бұрын
A true American at heart.
@mpetersen6 Жыл бұрын
If eight were insufficient just think how bad four would have been. Granted one rifle caliber round in theright place will take down a single and possibly a twin engined bomber of the period. Specifically a hit on the engine coolant or oiling system. These fluids were being pumped at high volumes with a limited supply which would lead to engine failure. Radials are less susceptible to this being air cooled but also suffer from higher drag on the engine installation. That is until the FW-190 and a few other types proved otherwise.
@leneanderthalien Жыл бұрын
I find the explanations quite convoluted, the reality is quite simple: Hispano Suiza was originally a Spanish car manufacturer, but, diversifying into aviation, these new activities were entirely installed in France as a Franco-Spanish company. During the creation of the 12Y engine which will first equip the Morane 406 then the Dewoitine D520, it was decided to integrate a 20mm cannon firing through the axis of the propeller: this is the famous Canon HS404 , also known in the Soviet Union under the designation ShWAK integrated into the Klimov 105 engine which is nothing other than an evolution of the 12Y for which the Soviets had purchased the rights before the war and which equipped the Yax 1, 3 and 9. The British quickly understood the advantages of this excellent, precise, powerful and reliable canon, and quickly installed it on certain Spitfires, however, this gun being designed to operate in the heat of the engine, posed numerous jamming problems due to the icing, in addition the drum magazine was too bulky and of low capacity (60 rounds) and did not properly fit in the wings, the British branch of Hispano Suiza therefore revised the design and also adapted it to a belt feed. Naturally , the installation of such a powerful weapon posed some problems on planes not initially designed for that, but the British preferred it to the cal 50 heavy machine guns favored by the Americans. The HS404 cannon has had a very long career, as it equipped the F8FN Crusader in service until 1999 in the French navy.
@JoriDiculous Жыл бұрын
need more Voice volume.
@derekmay8679 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a design engineer with Ford's at Dagenham during the entire war... I remember him telling of working on the spitfire, Churchill tank,and other various things they did there for the war efforts. He may well have been heavily involved with the transition of the spitfires all round performance... I do know that he had several 303 rounds and a couple of old Canon shells very similar to those shown... His job was whatever came his way ,and to improve,improvise, update, create ...He wasn't allowed to volunteers for active service ,as he was told his and his colleagues efforts would be far more destructive to the enemy than as individuals getting shot as a single soldier...Apparently he always tried ,but his applications used to get put back on his desk lol.. So he went home guard instead ,and was in charge of 6 anti aircraft guns near the factory... A lot of his work became easier as well due to the Americans bringing in all their newest tools of mass production and specialist tools ...Britain needed...
@philkennedy3427 ай бұрын
Thanks for share your presentation of the armament of spitfires and also the hurricane fascinating listening to the development of the gun👍👍👍👍
@1970DAH Жыл бұрын
volume?
@supervortex83632 ай бұрын
the hole gun recioling is a good thing with drum mags it will shuffle the rounds in the drum and help the restack for better feeding,this is why drum mags work better with the gun held upside down ,,,, like a hopper.. its not only gavity that helps feed that way up.
@jjforcebreaker Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! As if these episodes couldn't get any more cool.
@paulc2886 Жыл бұрын
Can you provide any info on the aircraft shown at 17:28 Jonathan? I believe it may be my father’s aircraft from 1Sqn SAAF (AX). What is the provenance for the clip?
@michailpanchev9952 Жыл бұрын
Btw, doest it have longitudal Revelli grooves in the chamber?
@MrDreple Жыл бұрын
Like the kink to rhe Spitfire, very interesting to see the weapon in the context of how it was used and the developent of the aircraft to accoodate it. big thubs up.
@jannekiljunen6784 Жыл бұрын
I've been following the videos, great series but if you could do something with the way too low sound level that would be great, now the video is just unwatchable with the massive variation. I like my hearing so I won't be turning the volume to double or triple to hear what Jonathan is saying.
@xXxTripleHxXx Жыл бұрын
39 Seconds after got posted. Last Time i arrived this early i Had to sleep on the couch
@thomaslockard9686 Жыл бұрын
interesting with the wire wound spring .
@michaelmay54536 ай бұрын
We had a version on that on the PBV 302.
@tuckersolander9003 Жыл бұрын
Solid BFG addition
@Taz6688 Жыл бұрын
Sound levels very low had to max out volume just to hear what was said, every other clip I watched fine, sort your sound out.
@nnoddy8161 Жыл бұрын
What magazine system did the Mossie and Beaufighter use?
@frostedbutts4340 Жыл бұрын
Beaufighters started with the crappy drums and moved to belt feed, I think the Mosquito had the belts from the beginning. If you look at a picture of a Mossie being loaded it's pretty neat, the nose is just packed with guns and ammo.
@robinwhitebeam3955 Жыл бұрын
You made a reference to lubricating oil making the action difficult to operate, would incorrect specification lubricating oil at low temperatures contribute to misfires/fouling?
@riadbensebti Жыл бұрын
great video, i hope some day , you present a modern jetfighter rapide fire chain gun.
@iangregory3719 Жыл бұрын
I used to work on ex Swiss A.F. Vampires and Venoms, both armed with 4 x Mark 5's, though ours had the real guns replaced with ballast guns. They were belt fed from individual ammunition lockers situated behind the cockpit, via guide chutes. If the guns had no feed pawls, how were the rounds fed to the gun ?. Was that self tensioning belt mechanism just used to feed the linked rounds, as it looks like, or did it hold any rounds itself ?.
@LeCharles07 Жыл бұрын
[air horns of celebration] Thank you, Jonathan, for finally explaining why they are called "Hispano-Suiza".
@harri74167 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I always wondered how long the Spitfire used .303? What year was the cannon introduced?
@Skorpychan Жыл бұрын
This video is awfully quiet. At the start, before the duxford bit.
@magnetmannenbannanen11 ай бұрын
long barrel does have one advantage tho. it takes longer to heat up when firing full auto.
@allencowan66928 ай бұрын
I was always under the impression that a "cannon" in this regard meant it fired ammo with an explosive projectile as the norm. Whereas machine guns normally fire a solid projectile.
@StarScream_47 Жыл бұрын
Audio levels... Can beardly hear start of video then ears destroyed at 2:40
@curiouscat8396 Жыл бұрын
The BB just moves back and forth and it has a tipping/tilting locking flap underneath. U can see the (replaceable) locking shoulder in the bottom/back. Now do a proper one on the Besa, and show us (what's) under the feed cover.
@fus149hammer5 Жыл бұрын
There's been a lot of armchair historians blabbing over the years about the use of cannon in british aircraft especially the spitfire and giving their less than knowledgeable opinions as to why they believed they were unreliable or even pointless but now it's nice listening to someone who actually knows what he's talking about and giving us the truth.
@Dingus138 Жыл бұрын
Banger audio job mates !
@joe125ful Жыл бұрын
Iam curious how you fix jams:)
@robkole1881 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation. I learned a great deal.
@cr10001 Жыл бұрын
Pleased the Hurricane got a mention (even if somewhat grudgingly), but what about the Beaufighter and the Mosquito? Their Hispanos were fitted in the fuselage, how did that affect the installation and did they have a different variant of Hispano?
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
I think the fuselage installation on the Firefighter worked much better as the gun wasn't on its side. The observer was also tasked to reload the magazines. Gun freezing less likely and issue.
@TheSpitfire2207 Жыл бұрын
its soooooo quiet
@jamieknight326 Жыл бұрын
This video is great. Thanks for making it. I agree with the comments above tho, the audio volume is very low in places.
@nickjohnson710 Жыл бұрын
Ffs! We have all gathered there's something wrong with the sound, why do you balloon heads have to keep mentioning it!?
@capt.bart.roberts4975 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a bloody enormous shock absorber.
@robertthomas37778 ай бұрын
Inflictor.
@wacojones80628 ай бұрын
A long time ago I helped baby sit a US 20 mm M2 Hispano Aircraft Autocannon for a couple of weeks. My dad although a medic was an Oerlikon gunner when traveling back and forth across the Pacific on Troopships as a US Army Hospital Ship Medic part of a 8 enlisted one Officer regimental level unit. The US copy of the 404 chambers were a tiny fraction of an inch too long due poor measurement conversion in usage at the time which caused jamming on occasion depending on ammo lots.
@sbrunscheon Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see a video on the Puckle Gun, the first machine gun
@iancarr8682 Жыл бұрын
4 x Hispano cannons' were used in the Bristol Beafighter night fighters. Initially the observer / radar operator had to change the drums manually in darkness in the air.
@patrikhjorth3291 Жыл бұрын
When I saw the silhouette preview, I thought "That looks like an aircraft-mounted autocannon", and then immediately decided that "Nah, that can't be right." I guess I need to learn to better trust my first impression.
@donaldjmccann Жыл бұрын
could not hear this at full volume
@marcusrawlinson50247 ай бұрын
Mark Birkigt was a very accomplished engineer, the Hispano Suiza cars he built in the 20s were possibly/probably the best in the world.
@puppetguy87267 ай бұрын
In the Swedish armed forces during that era something was classified as a canon if it could fire explosive projectiles. Thus the smallest canon in Swedish service was 13,2mm.
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 Жыл бұрын
Sound is fine on an iPad but low on PC.
@robertillston2350 Жыл бұрын
Why did the RAF not use Browning 50. cals with the Hispano, or in place of the 303s?
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 Жыл бұрын
You have a memory problem?
@DecanFrost Жыл бұрын
Canon also sound a little more, oomph than gun. I actually prefers your usual background Jonathan, the warehouse shots reminds me of Matrix, 'Guns, we need lots of guns....' Speaking of, have you done a Matrix breakdown?
@Pigness7 Жыл бұрын
cannon*
@peteturbo7047 Жыл бұрын
I love JOv, and i so love the subject, and i so want to hear what he is saying......
@j.a.i.662611 ай бұрын
as living 5 minutes from duxford i’ve been a few times and it’s a fantastic place to visit. would recommend highly EDIT: forgot to mention that due to close proximity of the airfield, we get to see a large and varied amount of aircraft pass over which is fantastic, esp in the summer when the airshows are on
@walterkronkitesleftshoe668411 ай бұрын
Lucky Lucky you..... I remember a visit to Duxford in the early 1980s... FANTASTIC place.
@basslinedan2 Жыл бұрын
Would be great if this could be reuploaded with the audio fixed
@jamesharmer9293 Жыл бұрын
Your sound on this video is very quiet, especially compared to the IWM section which is at normal levels. 🤔