Self Saltmaxxing the Guild Wars 2 Story Experience | (1-80) Part 2

[@RozeMMO]

If you wanna be mad about my takes here that's fine. Just keep in mind it'll make more sense once Part 3 is out. Also camera broke and had to repair it hence the framerate on me. Will fix when I can.

[@ulfrey1155]

Nah you're absolutely on point. I love GW2 but the story is kind of ass, especially core game. ArenaNET need to remake/update the core game and its story.

[@IgnisAchilles]

All valid points here. I mean comparing it to the landscape of 2012, where the average MMO player was not to expect any scripted story at all most of it was maybe feeling fine. But still, all the points you made very much apply to any kind of storytelling. If a story itself does not care to give its characters or previous plot points any relevancy, why should you exactly care? And I don't think these points in particular are very unpopular, because right after the Base Game story they radically changed their approach to story telling to use a more concise character cast and to not jump so much back and forth between plot activities, to keep it a bit general

[@triple1]

Core game is honestly shit, but the expansions and systems onward are just chefs kiss. Hope you make/made it out of this mess alive 😂

[@realdragon]

@@ulfrey1155 I think no matter what MMO I would play I would react the same way to story, because I can just stop playing for few months and after I come back there's no way I would remember what I was doing before anyway. The only thing I know is that I have to kill oversized iguana but first I need to kill guy who is 90% mouth

[@ulfrey1155]

@@realdragon i was speaking from a GW2 veteran perspective. The game is amazing, but core game has barely been touched in 12 YEARS. Everyone playing GW2 today is essentially having the same experience people had back in 2012-2013. That's insane, the fact it somewhat holds up is a testament to how good the launch devs were. If I play WoW or FFXIV today, i'm going to have a fresh new player experience bc they actually update that shit from time to time.

[@denikehi4579]

Can't wait to see how hard he will dunk on the Zhaitan fight xD

[@Alphatox]

I'm still so confused why they don't do some kind of one week long even(like they are doing for the past year) where they ask us to "relive" this part of story and just make it better. Like turning it into a strike or some shit

[@denikehi4579]

@@Alphatox that would be good

[@GamblingDedicated]

@@Alphatox Based take.

[@Safineya]

Oh god will he dunk on it. The build up of the whole msq comes down to a fking shoot cannon at a flying iguana. I was hyped when doing it for the first time but man is it bad compared to other elder dragon fights xD. Was probably good for 2012-2013 tho.

[@denikehi4579]

@@Safineya Well to be fair, arenanet didn't have technology for that epic a fight back then, and at first it was pretty hard the fight just got so nerfed so that it can be solod. All that is ok but the fact remains that right now? The fight is laughable...

[@karrdboardbox]

Just for a fun little lore fact: The events of the base game story take place within one year of the peace treaty between the charr and the humans. At the end of the conflict, the charr were actively sieging the city of Ebonhawke, which is just southwest of Random Forest #87. So the location of the peace talks and the scene they've set up there is more representative of the "Both sides just freshly put down arms and are meeting for the first few times" idea instead of some long going diplomatic thing. It's still a pretty random location for something so pivotal, but I like to think that makes more sense of it at least.

[@RozeMMO]

I wish the game explained that to me the way you just did.

[@Aereton]

@@RozeMMO yeah you only hear that if you listen to all the ambient and event dialogue in relevant regions thing is, gw2 (especially core content) hides everything lore relevant to be found like eggs on easter

[@coolbone6177]

@@RozeMMO They do But Only if you are charr or human

[@utmastuh]

@@Aereton true I actually learn a lot about the game listening to random dialogue and actually reading what NPC's are typing at me, but let's be real we just blow through content lol

[@Aereton]

@@utmastuh currently playing from start to finish with a new character, taking my sweet time nice change of pace after the unholy obsidian legy armor grind lol

[@proob2976]

I'm moderately surprised that no one ever brings up how gorgeous the loading screens are. I know some of theme are just concept art, but goddamn do so of them look fantastic.

[@theterrorvortex6415]

Mukluks face: Priceless

[@utmastuh]

I think mukluk is going overboard with his censorship of these videos but it's his channel to do what he wants.

[@TheRealCHIMShady]

​@@utmastuhprobably in case his kid catches the video or something lmao

[@TheBlarg113]

As a player of GW2 for years, I will never understand how they can tell a complete and short story through the overworld event system and fail to do it in many main story missions.

[@RbDaP]

ikr on the other hand it really feels that no one pays any attention to those and then complain that the story doesnt hold their attention (cough cough season 2 cough cough)

[@anonrandomsshit]

it baffles me

[@elocfreidon]

They tried too hard and spent too much money on making the dialogue cut scenes when it could have been used to make... actual cut scenes.

[@Yattatt]

The base game plot is straight up bad save for a couple missions, but I've been replaying all the story from the beginning and some of the later stories are really good. The latter end of living world season 1, most of season 2, and almost all of HoT really good.

[@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777]

There's a good chance there are two different teams for it. One handled the MSQ quest design while the other took charge of open world level design.

[@MrBasforce]

Best GW2 content in years. This is what this community needed.

[@MKhrome]

It's tomes of knowledge. You found tomes of knowledge.

[@LongBoringName]

Ronk, crafting :D

[@RozeMMO]

@@LongBoringName one of you is right and I'm not gonna tell you who it is.

[@vidaliver1447]

@@RozeMMO If you're gonna do the tomes of knowledge thing, i'd expect you to recruit one of the veterans to bring up a fresh character and flashlight themselves into lvl80 in front of your eyes :D

[@LongBoringName]

@@RozeMMO The Jeweler, Armorsmith, Weaponsmith kinda give it a way. Ek kan sien jy kyk na die Jeweler station in Ebonhawke :)

[@Aedrion-]

@@LongBoringName Or the special levelling achievements.

[@Lord_Oda_Nobunaga]

Ways to level up that I figured out while playing all of last month: -Play PVP all day to get a bunch of Tome of Knowledge. Just remember to enable your reward tracks for PVP and World v World. -Crafting, preferably weapons so that you get level 500 crafting and can later embark on the exhausting mission of crafting Legendary Weapons. -Do the Adventure achievements which will rapidly level you. -Buy expansions to get a Level 80 Booster from each one. -The best one that I found out about... don't play the game for 10 years, log back in to find that all of my characters were given Level 50 Boosters and a bunch of XP boosters as anniversary rewards. xD

[@Flatebo31]

I never really had a problem with the dungeons. As long as you create the LFG yourself, you can set the conditions. If it's clear in the LFG post that you want to watch the cutscenes, people will wait for you to finish watching them. After getting groups to help me while I experience the story, I've gone back quite a few times to the dungeons to clear them with new players that wanted to experience the story as well. The social aspect of this game is truly one of it's biggest strengths. You'll have a couple people that are a bit "elitist" but the general community is completely happy with helping out newer players as long as they ask.

[@lordflunder]

hm, but unless you run with only people under lvl 80 (for the story version) i still think it's a very different experience from vanilla. back then the game didn't have dedicated healer specs, less stat combinations to choose from and most importantly, not the powercreep we have now thanks to all the expansions. dungeons (as well as fractals) were quite challenging back then, somthing you wont be able to experience today unless you put alot of deliberate limitations to your whole group.

[@_XR40_]

The basic problem with the story (that a lot of players never quite realise) is that you're Dr. Watson, not Sherlock Holmes. You aren't playing as the hero in the core story, you're a supporting character - And sometimes a sidekick of the hero. This changes in the expansions, but that comes later...

[@candrian7]

Its pretty much the same problem WoW and Diablo have. You're more like a pack mule carrying the big name NPCs around.

[@jokerledger5400]

To add to that the story treat you like Sherlock Holmes with everyone saying how important you are, being the commander, chosen one and all, but you are in reality Watson, everyone errand boy and fixer, and punching bag when things go sideway. The End of Dragons is the last straw for me. Fuck the story.

[@_XR40_]

@@jokerledger5400 Hard to disagree. The story for _Path of Fire_ was okay. The story for _Season 4_ was better - But outside of that, the "story" in GW2 is mediocre at best. And if you think _End of Dragons_ was lame, try SotO. Luckily, I don't play for the story because if I did, I'd be playing something else....

[@embreis2257]

2:31 '...for an ancient artifact from the land of death called....'. [Germany] suddenly being displayed on screen. whoa, I was drinking coffee here! who is gonna clean up the mess now?

[@Kaismer]

I watched part 1 with my GW2 buddies and it was an absolute riot. Love the content, stay spicy good sir.

[@CapitanBreakfast]

Coming from Muk's channel because of the hilarious videos you guys did reacting to reacting to reacting to... reacting to eachother.

[@Silverman160Zero]

One thing that made me remember Old Man Forgal was his voice. That's Paul Eiding. That's just Roy Campbell from MGS1.

[@RozeMMO]

No wonder he sounds so familliar

[@chester1882]

Also Mephisto from Diablo 2 and Grandpa Tenyson from Ben 10 and a billion other iconic but relegated to the background roles he's nailed over the years.

[@utmastuh]

The Forgal questline is epic. I do it every week for key farming lol. "If I had a daughter she'd be just like Jane, except [better in every way]" lol

[@Aereton]

Forgal is temporary, Tybalt is eternal

[@xSixthiSx]

Aldaris from StarCraft

[@stevethedevilnerd2360]

The sad part about the story is, that it start getting better and better at the Living World. Edit: Also for faster leveling you have at achievements, character adventure guide. You get tons of free exp from it and its basicly 10hours to level 80 (without boosters)

[@Grudgebearer47]

Living world 1 is awful (until the final episode). It’s a massive step down in terms of storytelling compared to the core game. The expansions are when the story gets better.

[@Ninosai]

"Took in the sheer majesty of an unattended 12 years old... MMO" Felt like a really long pause there. Especially while staring at that, hah

[@maddyleaf]

I was a huge GW1 fan, mainly because of the darker, more serious tone of the world. Everything felt much more mysterious and there were many great fan theories back in those days about lore. The main story was generally much more bleak, while not having the best VA, it was still much more mature than anything you will find in GW2. There's a 1000 things I could mention and talk about that GW1 does better in its story and worldbuilding than GW2, but I don't want to write a schizopost longer than the transcript of this video. I still love the game though, it's incredibly fun and has many enjoyable systems within it. I just can't stand the story, it's the only thing that consistently bores me so much that I want to quit, especially when some important things are LOCKED behind story, like the legendary amulet.

[@Tewlipz]

The goddamn crash 3 underwater music caught me unawares

[@supersploof]

damn, every time one of your videos ends im left wanting more! a testament to your content i suppose! great video once again, spot on about some of the growing pains in the core game of gw2, like many others have said (and youve probably experienced yourself by now) it does indeed get so much better, specifically season 4 is widely regarded as probably the best story in the game

[@Leathra26]

that ending is major "I see you shiver in antici........." vibes

[@joshuaday9069]

Im more hooked on this cliff hanger than any story in gw2 if i had to be 100% honest to myself

[@Of_Quartz]

This is the beginning of Roze becoming the WvW God we know him to be in the year 2026. What humble beginnings... Love you stuff, keep it up. Also, your videos are good too.

[@F_E_A_Rise]

As a new GW2 plyer, these videos are glorious. Thank you!

[@hadi_SooT]

He found the level booster in his shared inventory

[@unfair_dinkum]

First of all - top tier content so thanks for all that effort. Secondly though regarding dungeons and cutscenes: list your own group and specify that you're watching all cutscenes. It's that simple. Your group will fill in seconds and people will be much slower. Combat itself will still go brrrr though no stopping that.

[@Yosokai]

A huge turning point for me in the game was when I had to make a new character to join a friend on another server, and I switched races from my first character of plant person to a human, and in the very first race-specific quest I thought "Holy crap, actual tension and life or death stakes" - it was like switching from a Saturday morning cartoon to a primetime drama

[@AlaiaSkyhawk]

Cool vid, and awesome jokes! On the matter of the story starting out on "local issues" before moving on to the main "kill Zhaitan" plotline later, unlike many games/MMOs GW2 really goes out of its way to avoid the "you are the Chosen One/already a big deal/tragic character out for vengeance" tropes. A lot of players tend to miss this and only realise it later on. You literally start out as a random person, with an above average ability to smack things into submission, and an inclination to head into the fight against the Elder Dragons once you're ready for it (Only the Sylvari have a definitive "you're gonna fight Zhaitan" angle, and then only due to the way Wyld Hunts work). But as the Sylvari player character says right after you wake up from the Dream "one does not simply awaken and rush off to fight a dragon". You start out local, dealing with local issues and gradually building-up your skills and your reputation (this is in line with you gaining access to more skills etc as you level). That reputation later gets you recommended to act on behalf of your local leader in liasing with the three Orders on a problem, and you then get a chance to do a trial run with to see how they operate before you choose which to join. Once you join them, just like before you're building your skills and earning your way up the ranks in the Order you went with. You've joined the bigger fight, but you're still a long way from fighting the dragons. By this point lorewise it's obvious to all around you that you're not just "above average" in terms of talent etc, you're becoming pretty darn strong and are a name to watch as you rocket your way up the ranks. It's this strength, skill, and reputation that then lands you in the position reputation-wise (at the last part of the lvl 60 chapter) that the "you are a big deal/chosen one" tropes start out with. Except you're not doing what you're doing cos someone said you're the chosen one, and you're not given the rank you get because of some daft oracle or such. You're doing it because you darn-well earned your way up to it and heck no are you going to let Zhaitan continue to threaten all life on Tyria. In such your character has taken a more realisim-based route from "local hero/known face" to "known to multiple nations, highly-ranked member of huge dragon-killing alliance" :)

[@patricklafontaine5969]

Really well said!!

[@bjoernrodal354]

Left on a cliffhanger! looking forward to the big secret in Part 3

[@YuubiTimberwolf]

Forgal Kernson is such an amazing character, i love Virgil dad.

[@SpicyMutt]

the charr in the thumbnail alone made me HAVE to watch this XD i was going to anyway cuz your stuff is dope but still X3

[@boblob3509]

Finally the satirical meme gw2 video I have been looking for

[@Borando96]

Fun Fact: When GW2 came out and underwater content was still part of the game in terms of getting attention, it even had a PvP map with 1 capture the point underwater, under a pirate ship. They removed the map later and many years later remade it, altho without a underwater part anymore. I personally think, they have a solid basis for UW combat, but have to change some annoying things, like the headgear having it's own rune slot, fine tune it afterwards and maintain it, but sadly they insta dropped it (they do/did insta drop a lot of things as recent as a few years at best now)

[@lilbladeknight]

I remember doing the kangaroo strat, luring people to water combat and fcking them up XD

[@Safineya]

Was the map the capricorn or not? Haven't played at that time and honestly haven't touched pvp with a 5 meter stick for another like 5 years now but that's the only map I remember even having a ship....or a port that a pirate ship could be on xD.

[@rathalos1522]

@@Safineya Yes, though the "new" capricorn is essentially a completely different map from the "old" capricorn.

[@fatmanpez]

Little tip to make things interesting along the way, find a Vista point off the edge of a cliff or something, run up to it and hit the F key as soon as you do it just as you would run off the cliff and when the cinematic plays you get to watch you character fall off the cliff while showing that beautiful panoramic, you even hear your character yelling from afar. You have to hit F just as you are falling off.

[@cund091]

I can't wait to see your first raid experience. Love this content

[@megalomind]

Best gw2 content creator so far. Thanks for all your hard work Roze!!!

[@zarkg6570]

Your take on this game is just funny. Good vid bro

[@AllButJustForgotten]

Cant wait, hopefully I also understand when part 3 comes out.

[@nopurposeposting1548]

the thing about dungeon cutscene is that everything pause while any one of the player is still watching cutscene, so you wouldnt miss out on anything tbh (unless you happen to stand far away from the actual scene so you might want to skip it in hope you can make it in time before everyone skip or finish watching the scene)

[@jennifersmith7237]

OMG! Too funny! Definitely can't wait for Part 3!

[@Xenoforge78]

You deserve so many more subs dude, Love your style of humor/vids. Well you've defs earned this sub haha.

[@TyrusJames]

Great videos man, can't wait for the next one 👍

[@GamblingDedicated]

As always, peak content from you.

[@phonelyp]

CLIFF HANGER? WHAT? I love your GW2 content. I had been waiting for this video forever and then missed the upload 2 fkin months ago. I am a long time GW2 player, and I appreciate your perspective. Will be here for the next one.

[@tabe2278]

*cough* you can do beetle racing in early zones *cough cough* Sidenote: recommend getting some footage on SAB while you can

[@anonrandomsshit]

not if you dont already have it unlocked

[@tabe2278]

@@anonrandomsshit you can, there is a beetle rental npc next to every race location on core maps

[@anonrandomsshit]

@@tabe2278oh yeah forgot that

[@cedricvanhove7716]

Good content and humor keep up the work; my break on gw2 has finished thx to u back to work.

[@IgnisAchilles]

Oh boy, another Roze Video

[@melonetankberry5211]

Good to see you my Naga.

[@TheAquarius87]

The humor is priceless! Never change 🍻

[@Shawn_DC]

these videos are awesome, you got back into gw2

[@seafighter4]

I for one really enjoyed the level 1 - 20 story, because in those story steps, your player character at least has a discernible personality. Let me spoiler you, that will drop off in all following story. Somewhat understandable, since writing unique dialogue for all races, including the personality system, would absolutely shatter ANet's capabilities, but still. During the first 20 levels, the Sylvari character was naive, optimistic and curious, the Asura player character is smart, cunning and boastful, the Charr are hardened warriors, the Norn wants to become a legend and the Human character is boring. They were unique. Or at least partially so. But after lvl 20, the character becomes pretty bland. Good things are good, bad things are bad, they got the personality as the color beige.

[@nielsjensen4185]

Crafting? Hah, the real secret is using the Tome of Knowledge you get in WvW. I've leveled about 10 characters that way.

[@Lord_Oda_Nobunaga]

I got my character to 50 or 70 by doing Adventure achievements and crafting, then I used Tomes for the rest of the levels. Back in the day crafting only got you so far. Later they revamped the system to get more levelling from crafting and added about another 100 levels to crafting which means that you can milk it for more EXP.

[@BorderFreak]

​@Lord_Oda_Nobunaga I mean to be fair even back in the day you could level to 80 with crafting least mostly but that required swapping crafting professions and that cost big money back in the day when com tags were 100g and character bound and to do map completion you had to do wvw but you could also buy a GoB for 500 badges of honor

[@Lord_Oda_Nobunaga]

@@BorderFreak Yeah that is how I levelled to 70 the first time like 10 years ago. But it became too tedious and I couldn't afford it. So I ran around the world levelling the rest of the way.

[@symp650]

Now this is quality content!

[@lj_aderyn]

Unrelated to much of anything in this video but I just want to point out that Rytlock is voiced by Steve Blum and that immediately makes him the best of all the major characters.

[@RozeMMO]

That's fair. The voice actors overall are so damn good. I just wish they were given better lines to work with

[@lj_aderyn]

@@RozeMMO That's fair. Base game story is very weak. Not sure how far you've gotten by now but it does get better, specifically around Heart of Thorns and Path of Fire. Though it always has its jank and the occasional odd line, it's leagues better than base game. Living World Season 1 and 2 are both pretty okay if not a bit of a slog. But the downsides of those are that the player character stops being voiced, and doesn't come back again until HoT. Story has never felt like the main focus of Guild Wars 2. Though I fully agree that something needs to be done to improve upon it as that is the main hook for newer players.

[@Lord_Oda_Nobunaga]

@@RozeMMO That and those characters are not in the game long enough. Even to just have them around as party companions through all of these missions. Which is a system that Guild Wars 1 had. Instead all we get is Logan, Rytlock, Eir whoever, talk to them a few times and then they vanish once you hit level 20 until you do one of the dungeons or something.

[@selfbane99]

Roze, the literal god. Nice rag

[@BlueberryJamPie]

I've played GW2 on and off since the closed beta. I think I've never passed the lvl 40 main quest. I have multiple lvl 80s, some I deleted and recreated, regeared and completed the world map to 100%. Highly recommend getting GW1 with all the expansions on sale, you can run the whole game story solo (or create party with NPCs) and you understand a bit more of the story. The dungeon stories become much cooler. GW1 now is almost like a single player game with a party system. (Various genocides occur, lots of necromancy and death pacts. The Charr set off multiple nukes across the areas by doing demon magic pretty much screwing everything up, this is part of the tutorial area story.)

[@lilbladeknight]

Dude, youre so hilarious XD Im glad i subbed way back

[@honestgames3249]

@Roze Your videos (by a very large margin) are my fovorite on KZbin. Every time one shows up, I know i'm going to laugh my ass off the whole time. You put so much passion and effort into them and I just wanted to say thank you sir!

[@Adam_Gw2]

Dude your meme folder must be huge. +1

[@Velakor9150]

woooo part 2 lets goooooo

[@patricklafontaine5969]

This is freaking amazing!! 😂😂😂. The dungeons are fun but just like fractals, everyone just sees that content as $. Just rush through it as fast as they can.

[@roycethecharralope]

It's not actually crafting. Leveling a crafting profession to level 400 gives you approximately 20 levels. It's the Character Adventure Guide achievements section, dynamic events and, of course, Tomes of Knowledge.

[@cacklincroc170]

ROZE UPLOAD LETS GO RAHH

[@lurksmcgee]

I'm loving these vids !!

[@ccrazool]

Agreed that it suck how much stuff is only available to lvl 80's. FISHING is only available to lvl 80's, for crying out loud. Same goes for sailing around in a skiff.

[@markup6394]

18:16 --- I guess... I mean... good point... especially considering that they get attacked every odd minute... On the other hand, this is a historical event where two peoples who have been at war for about a thousant years come together and actually talk. So the venue cant be some random room in a random neutral city (though LA would the logical and only logical choice), but has to be right in the middle between the two faction's capitals. Besides, they need some stupid danger to occur, otherwise we wouldn't have anything to do. Unless you want a heart quest where you destribute bandages for the numerous papercuts and deliver stacks of documents to their rightful but hopelessly overworked owner. "World of Workcraft", baby!! XD I suppose a former GW player (yes, GW, the original, the real one, no substitudes XD) I had quite a good understanding about the world and its stakes. Not to mention that I read the books, too, so there's that... Never the less... I didnt really mind the story that much, I found it even quite good (but there again, I was used to Retail WoW at that point, sooooo... yeah) : the setbacks, build-up and journey to the final boss... it was quite memorable. But yeah, that was back in 2012... a long a** time ago when the leveling and story experiance was quite different. Unfortunately I couldnt even tell you: I flat out forgot ^^° I only remember that you could progress the story right after the tutorial (and if you were 5 levels below the story mission, well you had some leveling to do first...) and that the talents actually had short descriptions about what they did and what you could expect. For whatever reason they removed that... Right... so where's the next video? ^^

[@AdrianBalogh]

As someone who played Girdle Weakness 2 when it launched, I can say that the dungeons were much worse than they are today. Imagine that boss fights can be overcome by simply releasing if you die, running back, and continuing the fight, so long as at least one party member remains alive at any given time. Or a boss fight where you and one other player take turns throwing a rock at the boss from either side, knocking it down each time and preventing it from doing any of its mechanics. Or trash fights where the mobs knock down players every two seconds, but there are so many of them that you need extreme coordination of stability buffs to be able to defeat them (that, or just release and run back and win through eventual attrition). I was really looking forward to dungeons back when Gee Whiz 2 first release, but it was by far the most disappointing part of the game. ANet eventually abandoned dungeons in favour of Fractals, so even they saw it as a lost cause (which is really too bad because a rework of them could make many of them fun).

[@mortani5136]

"patiently waiting for the next one..." Button👇

[@legendaryvicius]

You know, i still wonder why in the actual fuck youtube refuses to tell me you uploaded a new video and i have to look for myself...

[@JoshSweetvale]

8:55 Saladbolg!!! 10:20 World bosses! Those are fun. Colossal swarms of people :D 13:55 Welcome to L.A. - More fodder for your San Andreas metaphor. 15:20 Kabraham!!

[@niclastname]

You're definitely right that the vanilla story makes you just a helper. You're not really a main character with a main cast until the post-vanilla stories. I also agree that I'd LOVE for them to go back and revamp the base game, but they'll never do it. They don't have enough resources like WoW or FF do. They would have to basically quit expansions for a couple years at least, and they need the income. Plus the last time they did that (remaking living world season 1 to be replayable, because it was originally designed to be live one-and-done updates), only the diehards were happy. Everyone else was upset because "content drought", even though they were doing something and releasing content, but it was old content being reimplemented.

[@Opus_Fluke]

Yeah... Eir. Lives in a snowy wasteland can't afford clothes. First time I met her was in Living World Season 1 and all I could think was, "That's Braham's MUM?!"

[@ZlataChernis]

From an 11y veteran player -- what u describe here as The Problem of GW2 is, I'd say, the best thing about GW2 for me. I'm given some (quite various) skills and a world to run around with them -- ty anet u're NOT shoving ur story in my face more than necessary! Or, actually, u do but not much, it's quite bearable. I would trully hate lvling in this game if I had more of that 'connection to story', 'caring about secondary characters', 'significant story progress'. I wanna play a game coz if I wanted to get a good story I'd pick a book ty, that's where good stories are. As it happens, espec with expansions, year, the story becomes later more intricate and palpable, but we r now an established character in the world. On starters, like before hitting some lvl 60+, I really need some deep connection with my inventory space and weapon skills and utilities. I'm extremely happy with GW2 'main quest line' being unobtrusive as it is, and even more so for underlvl chars. )

[@TheRedGauntlet]

The Asura hatred here is hilarious XD

[@holy15master]

even 10 years ago, dungeons was the same i hated how everyone was trying to speed run and not enjoy the dungeon

[@TheHappyKiwi]

This is great

[@Useedat0]

My Naga Roze

[@neonultraego]

Fuckin killed me at "Grandpa Wars 2" lol.

[@Mehruenes]

holy shit these videos are hilarious XD

[@Vyctor__]

Great take on the clunk of the GW2 leveling journey. Did someone take you on a magical journey to see Tequatl the Sunless, The Shatterer or any of the other world bosses?

[@SabsUploads]

PART THREE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

[@Z5l9]

I absolutely love the game, but my first leveling made me quit twice before I set foot in the first expansion. I agree with you on how the world and lore is rich, but the solo story delieveries are subpar to put it nicely. Hope you stick with GW2 to experience the masterpiece that is Heart of Thorns, it'll be worth it.

[@glaziumtck8593]

If you do the dungeons at the appropriate level with other people at similar level then there's still some real difficulty to it (specifically in Explorable Mode). Especialy if your group isn't just a bunch of twinks. Btw, do Story mode of dungeons, then do Explorable Mode. (In general it's going inside the same dungeon 4 times and doing different paths with different enemies/bosses). Also, i'm betting he found Tomes of Knowledge or Crafting in the end there... hmm. I'm assuming Boosting is to be ignored.

[@skulpturostone4621]

But you CAN experience roller beetle in base game. Just a little, but you can.

[@nathanielnizard2163]

I did the main story just at release. I remember binging this game for few days, it was longer than most mmos I played and hence the level progression was slower I was feeling like doing mostly map completions with msq lagging behind. What kept me in the game was the mechanics, however I left 2 weeks after reaching max after doing few events and pvp. The economy was toxic and most importantly: there was absolutely nothing to realistically do in the game or project yourlself into doing. I rediscovered it 2 years ago or so and I love current gw2, it's unperfect but I have always things to do and people to interact with, raid and t4s are fun and pvp too. Yes it's p2p in a hardway but what I spent on it is very ok despite beeing generous with myself in games nowadays(I bought inventory, bank tabs, and all the shits that do not make me feel like a f2p pinoy player). Gw2 imho is not really p2w in the p2w sense of things, it is p2necessary convenience, like you bought the game and got scammed with a clause saying "if you do not pay for that your experience will be crap". Ofc most streamers are delusionnal about it, I mean those same dudes make cash shop items tier lists on the side, they're degrading :).

[@ReapTheWhirlwind]

GW2 must be weird af to anyone who didn't play GW1, lore-wise. GW1 shows Human-Charr conflict and sets up the other 3 races pretty well. I have like 20 years worth of investment into the story but I 100% understand why someone would be like "who are you and why should I care?!?!" for the entire 1-80 experience. 🤷🏾‍♀️ I ended up beating Zhaitan in the mid 60's and after the core story ends the game goes "well you better get to level 80 or you can't play any expansions or living world". 😂 I ended up crafting those final levels bc my main is an Elementalist and made of paper. When I went for map completion I discovered that every map has it's own story and those dynamic events actually advance it. 😢 So I enjoyed all those stories at max level and was sad to have missed them earlier. The maps with a world boss will always complete the meta right after reset but for some maps it's tough. I can't wait to see the next video. I would love to hear your opinion on the meatier core world bosses like Tequatl and Triple Trouble.

[@Jaricko]

You can level up super fast just by killing random neutral enemies around the zone.

[@gordondean9189]

Anet's only interest in Tyria is to block sneaky work arounds of their moronic jumping puzzles, other glitches have been reported for a decade and still don't get fixed. Also good luck with group events in Tyria for ? 20 hours per day unless it involves a daily. That's not where the money is.

[@cambeul]

Welcome to NornHUB

[@Jaricko]

A thing about the old dungeons... they are extremely dated. And one might argue... well then anet should update it. Anet fired the original team and apparently that is undocumented spaghetti code. They apparently don't know how. If they try to change something in there, it will likely mess something else up elsewhere.

[@DaigoKazama7]

Forgal is my fav character 😢 ever

[@Psyzrulez]

But you can solo story mode in dungeons...they reworked story mode to be soloed...

[@caraelfo]

No, they dont, its just that the powercreep over the years make them much easier, buy they are still designed to be done in a group.

[@EyesOfGehenna]

During Vanilla times you got the story quests at lower levels. It's a more recent change that they only start at level 10. However, even then I felt that the leveling process was extremely boring because after the first couple of zones you realise that you're doing the exact same things, just packaged in different visuals and beyond level 35 ish, the levels are just there for the sake of levels. The original Guild Wars had just 20 levels and you got there relatively quickly and then you could just throw yourself at any content. In any case, the entirely boring leveling process made me quit the game. I came back after a long while and because characters get birthday presents every year since their creation (with items that allow skipping levels) and gaining tomes of knowledge (click to gain one level), I never have to level a new character anymore. I still do the main story on my main for expansions but I never put any other characters through that. The story does get better but I still don't give a rat's ass about any of the npc's. I play GW2 still but not for the story.

[@skieochre3745]

Dungeons can't progress much during a cutscene, so you're not losing anything there. Can also look for people who can take the story part of it at least easy XD I think the core story was fine when I did it.

[@TiroDvD]

No one, even asura players, will disagree with your statements and treatment of them.

[@LisaSummers1988]

family tree? Pale Tree... no family tree. ok.

[@SkarneZ]

Here we go again

[@annatilburges]

As a GW2 veteran (been playing since launch) I love nothing more than to help new players, talk about the GW2 lore and do low lvl dungeons to help out new players. I get that your videos are just 'hot takes' and I do enjoy the banter but if you just put "no skips" in LFG when looking for a group you would actually get to enjoy the cutscenes. People would wait for you. You think lvl 80 players are joining low lvl players for dungeons because of the loot? You can make 20x as much gold per hour easily. Oh and the personal story actually sets up the dungeon story and progresses as you progress through the dungeons. And some of the personal story will make more sense later. When you've learned more about the rest of the lore the puzzle pieces suddenly fall together! :)

[@RobbinnDaHood]

One of the biggest issues with GW2 story telling is all the cool shit is outside the MSQ and/or is from the first game and is alluded to which is only really cool if you know about the story being alluded to.

[@cabacangvirgilioiic6185]

geography wars 2 lets go