Why does EVERYONE Hate the Guild Wars 2 Levelling Experience? | (1-80) Part 1

It's finally time to dive back in to Guild Wars 2. That ancient, outdated MMORPG that still somehow manages to keep player's attention. Join me as I take a humble salad from level 1 all the way to 80 in a journey to figure out why so many Guild Wars 2 players kept asking me to just skip through the levelling experience and just get to endgame ASAP.
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[@veroniica]

great misogynistic joke there buddy (not) i just love casually hearing that as a woman who's just trying to watch a video

[@RozeMMO]

You're welcome. Anytime your humourless existence is looking to have its feelings hurt by a throwaway joke made by a stranger on the internet then just know I'm here for you.

[@veroniica]

@@RozeMMO so misogyny is humor to you aka something women go through in gaming 24/7? you making an unfunny joke means you're the humorless one, not me 🤔

[@RozeMMO]

​@@veroniica *everything* is humour to me. Including wasting your time and knowing that you fear hearing mean words. If your life is so absolutely amazing that you get to bleat like a lost lamb on the internet and take jokes seriously then you need to re-evaluate your priorities. Then again you're probably so far gone that I shoulda just replied to your original comment with a standard "typical woman moment" comment and had a giggle as you cried about it.

[@justtmw]

America moment

[@naughtycultmemes784]

Twitter is that way Veronica

[@chester1882]

When the game is so nice, he does three videos showcasing it from different angles.

[@RozeMMO]

I realized it would be impossible to fairly review the leveling experience in one shot. There's just way too much to talk about

[@swanofnutella4734]

Gw2 has a reputation for having literally the most chill lvling experience among all MMOs Roze: "EVERYONE hate[s]"

[@swanofnutella4734]

PS: "Lazy bastard" ??? ....Juggernaut flamethrower scrapper is for you.

[@doct4rdoc894]

i never ever did hear anyone say GW2 leveling sucks .. is he maybe mistaking it with litteraly every other MMO?

[@joezar33]

​@@doct4rdoc894oooh good , I'm not the only 1 who confused, i never heard anything negative about GW1 & GW2

[@Zornarka]

I've never level boosted, partially because I'm a bit clumsy with the combat system, and want to thoroughly practice my buttons when trying a new profession - and partially because I think it's just chill and/or satisfying to clear out chunks of the map. The only time I've used any of my lv80 boosts was when I had leveled elementalist to 80, and saw how much celestial gear was on the TP

[@Lazarus_ReSpawn]

Idk how he managed to hear that even. And who were the people that said it, wtf. Makes no sense.

[@Baard5Szomoru]

Call me a masochistic wreck I actually enjoy the leveling lol Bruh your videos are cool af we need more of them Ty for the uploads I'm serious your content is adding years to my life

[@nielsjensen4185]

Great cut from Morgan's Spiral and Dark reverie and saying "It can't get more difficult than this" to Mad King's Clock Tower. Sadly for you, MKCT is still one of the easy ones. Once you remove the time element it gets really easy. The ones that will make you hate yourself are the "Not So Secret" JP in Gendarren Fields and "Chalice of Tears" in Ember Bay in Living World Season 3. The real name of the latter is "Skip Up the Volcano" and no one calls it that, even the devs and the guy who made it, it's just "Chalice of Tears" after the PoI where it starts since that's a way more apt name.

[@spencers4121]

I had someone skip "Not So Secret" for me lol, never could make it to the 2nd chest. (think they have since fixed the work around) But after you figure out Clock Tower it's not bad, I think the biggest thing I hate about Clock Tower. Is just the waiting, between attempts. Plus it can take a bit each year, to knock off the rust first doing it again.

[@H4wkeye077]

@@spencers4121 The true pain comes when you try to go for diving goggles in not so secret. Spent there 4 days.

[@brandonuzumaki]

Chalice is a pain even using Tekkit Markers, to many "hitbox jumps" and things like that, you see an entire rock that clearly looks that you can jump anywhere, but only a specific part of the rock has a hitbox, anywhere else you jump will make you slip and fall, i hated it because of that lol. The entire Jumping Puzle is a cool concept, since it looks more like an "adventure" of sorts, but all the terrible jumps turns it into a bad experience. Which is why Abbadon's Accent is my favorite JP in the entire game, a true adventure but without any bullshit jumps.

[@SwoleBenji]

The grove street music gave a TON of youtubers problems with false copyright a while back.

[@RozeMMO]

yeah I saw that. Decided to take the risk and use it or I'd have to throw the whole idea out the window and do something else. I'm hoping I dont get screwed for it

[@Scole2289]

@@RozeMMO did you get screwed up for it?

[@RozeMMO]

​@@Scole2289 I didnt. Got away with it it seems

[@Tewlipz]

There's a reason why you don't get much story from hearth quests in the base game, because originally those didn't exist, which is why a lot of map lore and story is in the dynamic events. Iirc, the heart quests were a very late addition after playtesters said they didn't feel like they had enough guidance without quests. On that note: Main story quests used to be unlocked every few levels, but when they changed the new player experience, for some unexplainable reasons, they decided to relegate an entire arc of the main story to only happen every 10 levels. At some point they even cut an entire arc from the late game main story, and I still don't understand why, but at least they added it back in after a while.

[@Painsjustice]

the hearts existed in the base game since launch

[@Tewlipz]

@@Painsjustice yes, they were added after complaints during early testing, and were likely added last minute before launch

[@thugX52]

I like that the main story is locked at intervals, gives me time to explore the world and to ponder on the events that happened in the open world and the main story and seeing if it connects. But it's something different so people who are not used to the MMO genre or open world games might find it confusing.

[@cynthiahembree3957]

@@Tewlipz So they technically always existed since launce.

[@Tewlipz]

@@cynthiahembree3957 yes. I never claimed otherwise.

[@nightshade9840]

I will be honest... I've been fighting with all my might to not give GW2 a proper try. It really felt weird for me back in the day when I have tried it for the first time. Like... it was missing something. Roze's channel has changed that. I am now giving it a proper try and enjoying it. So thank you, Roze! PS. I love your sense of humour. And all the fuming reactions at them out there makes it all even better. The joke about centaurs made me cry out of laughter :D (Yes, this is a message coming from a woman). Some people should really take some things less seriously and appreciate how unique presentation of a game you are providing, Roze. Have a good day and looking forward to more of your vids! ^^

[@jo_inro]

Another Glorious Roze video. With this interaction, may the algorithm carry you far on its black, leathery wings.

[@Lucyller]

I could definitely watch you trashtalk-compliment this games for hours! I wasn't expecting the GTA reveal at the end, and it does explain a lot...

[@RozeMMO]

Still trying to figure out if this all means Caithe is really just Big Smoke in disguise

[@kaltaron1284]

@@RozeMMO Well, she uses smoke at times so you may be up to something.

[@beilog7489]

Next video when? This man has me hooked!

[@RozeMMO]

hopefully in the next 2 weeks. Ive been on a quest for better audio recently

[@Kiandough]

@@RozeMMO Hell yes, these are banger man

[@leela1990]

@@RozeMMO They really are great, can't wait for next episode. Such nostalgia trip for long retired player of this game :)

[@LucianoRototom]

Witnessing part of the salad boi journey was awesome and loads of fun! looking forward to the next part!

[@taa347]

I enjoy leveling in this game a lot. Recently I just deleted some of my 80s just to remake them because it's fun

[@MartinoSannn]

Props to you, this is my third time reinstalling guild wars 2 since July of 2023 bc I wanna like it so bad but the early leveling is so painful and my inventory is constantly full of junk

[@lunaticmode638]

RIP birthday rewards

[@cecenasbidzo3891]

same here ,I love lvling in GW2 and also think its to easy ,but verry fun

[@inconceivableabysses]

My SO has Ilike ten toons now. He just keeps making more, to level them and explore the base game zones. No interest in fractals or pvp at all, just questing through the zones. He loves it.

[@inconceivableabysses]

@@MartinoSannn Go to any vendor and click "sell junk". At the top right of your bag there's a "deposit materials" button that puts all the mats in the bank. The rest you either use or sell on the trading post.

[@schenanigans]

As a new GW2 player that is slowly working through the story (on LW2) I really like going from a little shitter to properly growing into an important politician/assassin/war crime committer It reminds me of the classic WoW leveling experience, except where leveling was fun for me there and a chore here, but fuck I'm a sucker for a hero story It's something I didn't find in retail WoW or free trial FFXIV and I thought was exclusive to classic WoW, a game I'm thoroughly burnout on thanks to the toxic community The other day I accidentally stumbled into a 50 man achievement hunting group in a dungeon I was trying to solo an objective for the storyline and felt like a kid lost in the mall so I love the concept of ADHD wandering into random shit didn't go away because I wasn't doing map exploration anymore

[@spencers4121]

It helps that the overall arch of the story has a theme, across all the LW and expansions.

[@Gleandra]

I love the leveling experience more than in any other game. It's in fact my favorite part of the game so far. :D I have done it 8 times, because no class really appeals to me (power fantasies and archetypes in this game are a big miss) and I would always insist on doing it again.

[@swanofnutella4734]

I'm totally sympathetic. I always wanted to play a classic wizard in GW2 that is neither a Necromancer NOR an illusionist, which only leaves you with an elementalist. Also, Guardian is strangely a squishy class unless you spec it for pure heal/tank, especially since the FB tome nerfs. .........THAT SAID, the cool thing is these days there is such a variety of builds you can almost fake an archtype out of an unexpected class. - I can kinda pretend my thief is a classic wizard via Spectre now. I could go on with other examples but you get the idea.

[@Gleandra]

@@swanofnutella4734 Indeed, and Elementalist barely scratches the Wizard itch with how spammy and frantic it is. I also definitely need a lot of headcanon. :D I decided to play Harbinger, which comes closest to a spellcaster, but I despise necromancy, so I pretend it's just a druid or alchemist.

[@swanofnutella4734]

@@Gleandra Granted there's always a bunch of fresh air builds that kinda specialize you, but you might look into Hizen's Fire-earth weaver build. Technically outdated, but still viable and super fun. Kinda feels like you're a "Pyromancer". Plenty of sustain, you only dip into water for emergencies. insane dps for open world build. Cheers

[@Grishyy]

7:22 thank you for including the Pyro meltdown clip. It's easily one of my favourite Twitch moments.

[@RozeMMO]

There are very few moments as beautiful as the Pyro meltdown out there

[@marthdaeglin]

Hope you enjoy Engineer, it's been my main since launch! Once upon a time you could jump right into the story quest immediately after the tutorial instance. People would grind the story until they were too underlevelled to keep going, sometimes at the expense of map exploration. Apparently ANet thought this was a bad thing. "...but instead of being involved you're assigned to sitting in a chair, watching it happen." Some of the writers have stated that they want to write a story anyone can get into by making the main character an everyman. Any personality, any personal development, any personal investment is given to the characters around your character out of fear of making the player character inaccessible to anyone. The "RP" part of the "RPG" was given to the npcs. There are a lot of named characters, many with actual backstories if you want to read them, and very few of them matter at all. "This is just San Andreas with leaves!" Ryder: "So you're saying it's just San Andreas?" This connection had me cracking up.

[@kaltaron1284]

The real reason ANet thought the unrestricted personal story was bad: Black Lion Keys.

[@patrickdudziak3229]

Such an under rated channel. Commenting for the algorithm, keep it up Roze!

[@missk1697]

I guess I am a part of that "EVERYONE", always hated leveling yet still ended up with 4-digit number of hours in this game.

[@realdragon]

I don't see why people hate it. I was just playing and got to lvl 80 running around and doing shit

[@activegrass9435]

I love it when roze dumps his loads of meme inside me

[@MrBasforce]

I saw your content on mukluk. Love your style. Waiting for more!

[@Morris3720]

How is this guy not more popular? His reviews are hilarious! Huge GW2 player, who came for the GW2 reviews but stayed for the laughs he gave me and edginess.

[@PrinceArtemis]

GODS, I love this guy, hes like the youtuber ranton in terms of comedy.

[@bladerunner2006]

FINALLY Your GW2 simp video is literally my favorite GW2 video out there. Watched it 10+ times. And then you go ahead and ignore my favorite game forever. Jesus.

[@theoddegg8462]

So I just played the leveling experience on the human side (all the way through heart if thorns) and honestly the biggest issue with the story is just that: player involvement and the characters in vanilla. The plot is awesome especially in the second half of the character story (which I believe all origins collide to a single narrative at some point) and I legit got some goosebumps at certain scenes. However, after playing heart of thorns where it basically fixes all those issues the vanilla story had and THEN some, it's hard not to see vanilla story's age. CANNOT WAIT for Path of Fire and to start sinking my teeth into the multiplayer!

[@crankpatate3303]

Yea, the newer the content, the better it is. A real shame Anet never took the time to remaster their original launch content and with that the part of the game, that new players experience first. It's a bad look on the whole game. And actually a lot of content, that could be way more fun, if they just reworked the minions and monsters & rebalanced the encounters.

[@kaltaron1284]

The personal story works this way: Race specific arc where the first two episodes have 3 each depending on your character creation, everyone meets Destiny's Edge in Lion's Arch, Order specific arc where you meet your mentor, seeking allies depending on your race and from thereon everyone does the Pact stuff with small differences depending on your mentor.

[@bortplate1694]

@@crankpatate3303 "Yea, the newer the content, the better" Path of Fire was Anet's magnum opus. It was overhyped during the WoW refugee trend. Dragon powered microwaves in " End of Dragons"... "Secrets of the Obscure" started strong, killing demons is always fun, demonic mellow drama...not so fun. They are 100% going to shit the bed again with Janthir Wilds...

[@mormegil231]

If anyone tells you to skip leveling in the first character in Gw2 then you should immediately stop talking to them. Not so much about it being bad or good. That is subjective. But leveling normally the first time will actively allow you to learn the game better. It is actually bad advice to immediately skip. It will make the experience worse for most people. Also you Silvari cosplay is 10/10.

[@2Btoobee]

ikr, atleast the people should tell the first timers to complete it normally in their very first toon

[@Woryen]

Tremendous amount of people quit gw2 during leveling (myself included 2x), and several bigger mmo streamers tried and gave up while leveling; they did not have any idea how the combat, the story, the visuals, the systems evolved :( So the dilemma is that expansions are nothing like the base-game... Skipping leveling altogether might not be the best solution for everyone, BUT it works for *some* players. Most probably these players are in the minority (and probably most of them are burnt-out mmo junkies)... but your backhanded take is a bit naive :/

[@mormegil231]

@@Woryen Ironic you call my comment backhanded and naive. It works for a very small percentage of players to boost. There is zero tutorilization if you skip (which is already not complete when leveling). The average player would be lost on the spot. Even Anet themselves warn you not to boost if you never leveled a character when using the 80lvl booster. Also the vast majority of people like the general leveling experience. You might not and it is fair but most find it at least fine and teaches you game at the same time. When you give general advice you advise on the general experience on people, not what might work on "some" people only or the professional streamers. Also you say that expansions have nothing to do with the base game. That is not true. The expansions are an evolved, polished and perfected version of the same design philosophy of the base game. If someone does not click with the sensibilities of the base game, chances are they will not click with the expansions as well.

[@jacknapier2089]

To say that the journey is what makes it not the destination, Guild Wars 2 does this well. Kill and interacts will happen , but the grind will feel like nothing. There's always something new to see, to plan out once you figure out. WoW classic for its time works, but it always boils down to kill 10 rats and kill this thing for whatever the quest giver says it is a problem, but forever. Whereas Guild Wars 2 sells the illusion event of killing the dragon being real(let's not count the World Bosses, they are farm material), WoW Classic within the limitation, you know it is a videogame, Hogger is gonna spawn back, nothing ever changes at all. Unfortunately, the sad truth, the grind of WoW Classic is a comfort to most people. They work a 9 to 6 job, have 3 wives and 12 kids, they will grind in the MMO just like their 9 to 6 job, they will farm like for their 3 wives, they will pay for gold for their 12 kids(who become farmer later in life), because people want to be whipped, they want to be enslaved. And as Asmonbaldy said that people like eating shit, pay for WoW Token GDKP, staying in the motherfuken boiling pot along with Honkai Star Rail Gatcha, dinner™ is indeed ready. Then you wonder why BDSM fetishes exist.

[@TheRodentMastermind]

You get so much XP from just exploration, that you can just go from map to map doing what you feel like. I found a lot of time I just outleveled story even on my first character.

[@HagobSaldadianSmeik]

I had a similar experience with the Dark Reverie jumping puzzle the first time. I am looking forward to seeing you doing the Chalice of Tears.

[@RozeMMO]

The fact that they had the balls to call it Chalice of Tears already scares the shit out of me.

[@basharic3162]

As it should. Been playing since betas, I am good at game. I have things from doing some very difficult crap in GW2. I beat the Clock Tower the first year -- before they made it easier by turning the other players into wisps on your screen. I earned my Liadri pet the first year, when beating her was insanely hard. I can solo mobs that murder whole teams of lesser players. I have personally beaten every Jumping puzzle on my own save one. Fuck Chalice of Tears. It was created by sadists. Both times I've completed it I paid a Mesmer who had mastered it to port me through. I will never hate myself enough to do that one the "right" way. Because there is nothing right about that benighted piece of content.

[@KhorgHNA]

I'm a Norn fan, imho you missed the most fun start with lore dumps. Plus drinking beer and hunting never goes wrong, right?.. Great video as always. Glad to see you're enjoying GW2!

[@marinhrabric6162]

Same here. Norn the best

[@wuzzle5261]

Yeah, core story is just absolutely not a draw. It's a big part of why launch had such huge exoduses. The gameplay was still solid, but there was also no real endgame of any kind, so there was basically no hook at all. Not invested in the story *and* no endgame? That's a death sentence.

[@wickedfuctup]

People are going to complain about leveling experiences in every MMO. You're going to have people who prais it and then you're going to have people who hate it. I think Guild Wars 2 out of all of them is probably the most fun just leveling because of a few things. The dynamic events keep things interesting, the map Rewards for completing events and it's severely chill. It's a free roam leveling where you don't have to keep going to NPCs to pick up and turn in quests to level. Anyone ever level in Tera? That's all it was. In September I started a necromancer and got to 80 just by running around and completing events and doing map completion. You can hit 80 with only doing a fraction of the core Tyria map completion

[@MusPuiDiTe]

Didn't expect the ending: GENIUS!

[@nielsjensen4185]

Shadow of the Dragon returns in Living World Season 2 and in that, they're a right challenge.

[@Alphatox]

I play gw2 for 7 years and I still remember all the fun I had lvling. However I didn't play it solo so that might be a big difference. But I have to say it was quite the PAIN to lvl, not because of the game but becuase I was not sure about buying the game so I played it F2P till lvl 80 which means you have NO access to the auction. I've probably missed on a lot of gold but hey, it was fun. P.S. the most memorable moment for me during lvling was in Blazeridge Steppes. Don't wanna spoil it for everyone so I'll just say keep looking at the sky from time to time.

[@RbDaP]

Funny enough I find salad to have the best integrated personal story to Zhaitan storyline. I mean, it is the only starter zone where you hear the chilling DEATH, GOOD Edit: the "personal story does not make me care" critic works for all races, honestly. It did not feel like that at all to me, ever, but I recognize that a lot of gw2 lore, characters etc are scattered - a design decision that has its low sides

[@sandroxino]

you make some really good content and your sense of humor is the kind I like

[@hellvanfrost69]

I'm sorry whoever told you to just level boost through leveling was wrong, GW2 has THE best leveling experience around (when it comes to MMOs) honestly, I've never heard someone say to skip leveling, also you can get through leveling in like 8 hours if you just turn your brain off and grind it out if you reeeeeeaaaallly dont like it that much, though not my favorite method to leveling it is fast soooo. but even if you arnt hardened on gfuel and crack to cause intentional brain damage all for the sake of going from 0-hero in the time it takes for you to get hard on date night. following the generic, events, hearts, story and dungeons is still really fast especially when compared to other MMOs. with all that said... Imma need a part 2 cause you are hilarious

[@RozeMMO]

Part 2 soon... also it's gonna upset you (and everyone) but it will make sense why by part 3

[@BSKTCreation]

As a altaholic I like the initial levelling experience (pre Heart of Thorns), where nothing was level gated.

[@a2rex834]

The consensus in the community is that leveling 1-80 is amazing because literally everything gives you xp. There's no need to grind because story missions and a couple of dynamic events gets you there pretty quickly.

[@Woryen]

Unfortunately I'm 100% under the impression that there is a CONTRARY consensus among veteran mmo junkies, who find it utterly repetitive (after lvl ~30)... Look at what WoW/ESO/SWTOR offers, those are much more captivating, unfortunately. In those games, you have a possibility of dying to mobs actually. :( And the dilemma is that expansions are nothing like the base-game... it doesn't show the true colors of GW2: how the combat, the story, the visuals, the world-building, the systems evolved. :/

[@spencers4121]

@@Woryen It's been years, but I never found WoW captivating, it was a pure grinding quests to level, the same with SWTOR. Yes, grinding hearts and maps. Is no different then grinding quests. GW2 everything you do earns you xp to end game, you don't even have to touch PvE crafting earns you xp. You can pop into PvP, have everything unlocked and still earn xp and loot / gold. Not to mention you have access to so many XP boosters, and leveling tomes. Older characters will get insta level boosters in later birthdays, I can hit level 80 with all the boosters. That I earned in game in about 6 hours play time. PvP players have so many leveling tomes, they don't even know what to do with them.

[@chris200830]

Your editing skills are out of this world and the comparison of the sylvari to san andreas was very creative. You should have close to 1 mil subs. Keep it up, man!

[@huangGQ]

The leveling experience is probably the most diverse part of GW2. At level 80 everybody just becomes a gold farmer.

[@RozeMMO]

That's weird to hear, I've been told the opposite: That everything just gets way better once you're in to the expansion content

[@thugX52]

I realized I've been doing a lot more gold farming recently. Not because I care about being rich, but because in my ~8 months of playing GW2 I'm so close to crafting my first legendary weapon and boy do they really cost a lot of time, money, and materials.

[@a0000a1234]

@@RozeMMOdouble edged blade . Both true. Its better and worse at 80. You lose the nice leveling progression but get to do end game content

[@huangGQ]

@@RozeMMO You do unlock a bunch of different content, but the motivation to play that content usually boils down to NEED GOLD PER HOUR. Living World, world bosses, map meta events, fractals, holiday events, all reward you with items that eventually get converted to gold. Some people use that gold to purchase items for crafting legendary weapons while others sell that gold on the Gem Exchange to players who decide gold farming is beneath them and summon the power of $CASH$ $MONEY$.

[@yerffriggdrasil5186]

I think there is a phase when you just hit endgame that you become hyper fixated on gold. However once you've gotten the cosmetics you want and a few legendaries to your name, you just start doing content to have fun and get surprised when you've earned a decent amount of gold in the process. For example I spent the past month grinding pvp, earned some 500 gold and spent it all ecto gambling. And I would gladly do it all again.

[@BButcher-hg4nr]

the punchlines are so good, roze. I feel like you're a non-cocaine version of fleekazoid (huge compliment) love these vids, glad I have a part 2 to watch

[@supersploof]

upon launch, the story actually was broken up into individual levels, but they changed it a while back to be in chunks every 10 levels, I always preferred the old system

[@RozeMMO]

I think that was a bad change to make personally. Having it spread out seems like it would be way more engaging

[@supersploof]

@@RozeMMO i definitely agree, youd only be 2 or 3 levels from the next story most of the time, so it was just enough time to explore the map the current story (or next) was in, few events and a bit of exploration and you're off again, felt way smoother overall, i think it changed when they revamped the level rewards and early levelling guidance/tips system as the game used to explain a lot less than it does today, which is definitely good as you pointed out, sadly the story got the short end of the stick being relegated to chapters instead of steady installments, love your video style btw! had me rolling

[@kaltaron1284]

IIRC the personal story only had level suggestions not requirements. They changed it for a very good reason (for them): Black Lion Keys.

[@kaltaron1284]

@@RozeMMO The "problem" was that you could easily farm Black Lion Keys with the personal story which is something ANet doesn't want.

[@TiroDvD]

Yes. Every time I lead people in the Plant Dungeon I eventually break down to "yes this are all Vampire LARPers that hang out at Hot Topic."

[@kaltaron1284]

I want the removed path in the Plant Dungeon back. It really only makes sense when you can clobber all three lieutenants.

[@TiroDvD]

@@kaltaron1284 They probably can now that since all dungeons give the same currency there isn't "map exclusively" reasons for it.

[@kaltaron1284]

@@TiroDvD You mean because otherwise you could have farmed the corresponding currency faster than other dungeons? Never thought about that to be honest.

[@noheartfourteeneightyeight]

nope, leveling is great in gw2, way better than wow/wow-classic

[@ravenramsey3115]

When I discovered the weakness of my foliage! I have a disorder called cataplexy, which makes me go limp when I laugh too hard. This line gave me cataplexy LOL

[@vmsc199]

Great content as always. Theres so much personality in these videos. Please do more of them!

[@lithrean739]

lmao someone else who hears Zoltan instead of Zhaitan. I knew they must exist.

[@eelge]

Against all odds, he makes it home..

[@physe8052]

Comedic Timing: Impeccable Editing: Superb Writing: 👍 Do I want more: ABSOLUTELY!

[@BonkiHart]

I have no idea why ..... but I really like the leveling experience in this MMO 🥺 I've leveled up multiple characters from 0 to 80 because it feels so chill and rewarding. Plus with each race I got to explore their world! The NPC's and their voice lines and heart quests. So yeah ... I absolutely loved doing that and I would do it again! And also back when I did it, there were no mounts or gliders, and I never really felt like I needed to Google anything, it was just me and my friends fooling around, doing quests and chatting about things. Can't say the same about this OTHER mmo where I was told "it's the best game ever, better than any other mmo" seems overly hyped up and isn't as fun as I thought it would be :/ I was disappointed trying to play it for 200 hours and I wish I could get my time back, because despite playing with friends, it was not that fun. Guild Wars 2 managed to grab my attention and also allow me to explore Even though in the end when I reached level 80, I loved to just customise my character with all the armour appearances 😂 and my content enjoyment shifted into the first expansion that got released as well as fractals and tried to get over my fear of PvP in WvW lol..... (It never ended well for me, I suck at PvP) I guess in the end, I gotta say that this MMO is very dear to my heart and I love it. It's sad to see though that it's getting rather old with its optimisation and graphics :c and ...... dungeons

[@HardcoreCasualGW2]

Loved your GW2 first impressions video. Glad to see a followup! I'm sure this won't come as a surprise to you, but I think I can safely say that most in the GW2 community would agree with your criticisms of the early game. I'm sure there are a lot of players who tried the game briefly and were turned off by boring heart quests, no-challenge combat, and a rather uninspired MSQ. The only good news here is that the late game will probably surprise you. For example, the first expansion: Heart of Thorns. No more boring heart quests. It's all been replaced with dynamic events. Better yet, each area of the map has its own sequence of events that players have to progress and these event chains tie directly into the MSQ, which still isn't great but at least features your character as the lead instead of just being along for the ride. The combat also ratchets up the difficulty so that you really have to learn enemy attack patterns and respond appropriately, and unlike WoW this isn't something you just do a few quests and grab some ilvl 1 million gear to overcome. Learn or die. This is also the expansion that introduced gliding and the map designs are appropriately vertical, essentially making them a gigantic playground for jumping and gliding around. There's even a map that consists of a gigantic maze of caverns where your map is essentially useless and players are expected to actually open their eyes and explore instead of following a path on a map from A to B.

[@methanbreather]

One thing I find hilarious is: sylvari are omnivores. They love eating meat. And veggies. So no moral qualms. They can talk to plants - and then eat them. That is like talking to your parrot before turing in into a chicken breast sandwich.

[@RozeMMO]

They're equal opportunity eaters and I appreciate that. Not gonna stop with the vegan jokes about them though, it's just too easy.

[@danfelder8062]

Levelling 1-80 is fun in GW2, it's just the expansion content is so much better than the base game zones that it's hard to go back. The personal story isn't great in most cases either.

[@reptile797]

Just quit the game recently after picking it up a week prior. I'm one of those guys that reads everything and sat through every cutscene, and I was not happy with the base story. It really felt like it was meant for people who've come out of a coma and have never read a book or watched a movie in their life. Boring, frustrating, and especially toward the end: painfully drawn out. The leveling zones were just as weak. Hop from heart to heart? Sure that's satisfying somewhat, but the reasons they had to give to the player as to why you're doing anything in any area were pitifully weak. Again, written by someone who didn't care. "Just give them something to do," is something I imagined was echoed through the developers' offices ad infinitum. Hit 80 and was gobsmacked by the amount of garbage filling up my bank and appalled that materials were essentially the way the game "rewards" the player without actually giving them anything at all. Oh and the cherry on that little dungheap was that it was apparently worse on release. Again, not impressed. The combat is pretty much the only saving grace this game has over the currently big mmos in my opinion. It's great not having global cooldowns and being able to blow through skills almost like an actual action game. Fantastic job on that front. Just wish the devs overall invested more heavily into a stronger narrative and focus more on the single player presentation, because that's always going to have more longevity. GW2 doesn't have the nostalgia to hold onto its players as much as WoW or FF, and I don't think the playerbase is going to get any bigger. Such a shame. Really like the game overall, it's just sad going into such a scarcely talked about game only to find out why no one talks about it. It's very much a 6-7/10.

[@embreis2257]

16:59 wiki page: _Why the Asura are such Bastards_ that page was a blast to read. I'd sign it any day

[@Geronmy]

Finally, I AM EATING GOOD.

[@Geronmy]

And i wasn't wrong. This was a feast.

[@phonelyp]

I NEED MORE. This was the first vid I have seen from you. subbed.

[@Rapisotron]

Nobody hates on GW2 leveling, you made that up as an excuse for a video, have fun :D

[@spankyjeffro5320]

What? Nobody hates the leveling experience. It's incredibly easy to fast-track if you follow the player guide, and zone-clearing is actually fun, especially with dynamic events.

[@Walkiryx]

This channel deserve more subscribers ! Awesome video

[@Darkstar1282]

The part about MMO players don't know how to read. I feel that. Lol. It is why I don't play MMO's with my one friend. He doesn't read anything, just wants to kill things and get loot.. I'm the one reading everything. He ends up getting so far ahead of me. Lol guess I need to learn to read faster. Or just start going to the points and not know what's going on. 😅😂

[@caffeinette]

Yeah, most of the early personal story branches don't play into the main story other than to serve as flavor text for your character's backstory, which is why most of them are pretty forgettable. But then randomly, the "where life goes, so too should you" option on sylvari gives you foreshadowing for HoT, and connecting those dots while going through the HoT story line on release gave me goosebumps.

[@laurapiacentinicasarin8205]

6 years ago i was the "first time playing an MMORPG" person just stumble upon Guild Wars 2 by pure coincidence, and by my true explorer nature, i loved the leveling experience of the game, it did not held me by my hand anytime, and i was really free to do whatever i wanted, to learn all by myself the mechanics and the way things were supposed to be, i had 0 experience from any other MMO so i was totally open for the experience the game provided for me, and it was awesome!

[@josdra238]

12:50 It's not a pay-to-win-shop, it's a pay-to-look-good-shop.

[@spencers4121]

So many people get this wrong about GW2, it's a QoL and fashion quest shop. Not to mention you can convert in game gold, and purchase all of it including all the LW content.

[@RozeMMO]

You can pay to win back your time and it's always faster to use IRL money than doing anything in game by comparison, (xp boosters, swapping money for in game currency, etc.) ergo pay to win. Arguably paying to look better than others is also paying to win in a visual race that you're having to make your character stand out and look better. Is this game the worst pay to win in the world? Not even close. It's one of the least egregious. Does this game have bills to pay? Yes.

[@v-ia]

​@@RozeMMO that is not what pay to win means bro, you're not winning against anyone. with no focus vertical progression system there's no inherent value in having gear other than access to content (that anyone can access with low effort and no money investment). you can't use it in spvp and be stronger than others and theres also no open pvp

[@RozeMMO]

@@v-ia I'm not gonna bother arguing this point beyond this message because people are so vehement in defending their favourite game. The very existence of xp boosting means there's pay to win in the game. You buy it. It takes 5 seconds. Someone else doesn't. It takes 5 days instead. Quite literally winning back the most valuable resource on the planet in comparison to other players: your time.

[@v-ia]

@@RozeMMO so your problem is that you have to invest time to play a videogame. and you seem to somehow believe that spending money in order to SKIP part of the videogame means WINNING THE GAME. do you not realize how much of a cope that is? if your time is that precious then you're stupid for wasting it on videogames, especially mmorpgs which BY DEFAULT expect you to invest a lot of time into them XD

[@nooeynope952]

i have been loving this game ever since i stepped my foot a second time in it. It's been a blast and with about 7k hours on record i still feel that way, your videos (even if weirdly titled) are absolutely hillarious and i am glad u seem to be enjoying my favourite game! Hope you find even more joy in it and that everything goes well for you in the future! Also keep up the hilarious videos! ^-^

[@xecor4450]

It just needs the enemies to be a bit harder, like higher attack speed and hit a bit harder. Also some new lighting techniques and maybe new textures and it should be ok.

[@triple1]

Vanilla game is pretty mid.. in the first expansion, they listened and made the enemies way harder than they should be :)

[@macsarts1389]

​@@triple1yeah and they reverted back to easy mode on subsequent releases. A bunch of morons can't make up their minds

[@riangomes8333]

@@triple1 yep that mordrem snipers got me everytime

[@sokijininvertus8724]

I’ve done it 5 times it’s probably the best leveling experience in current mmos

[@realdragon]

Rather than point and click you can turn option for manual aiming for some fps experience, it's much more fun as engineer to actually aim your gun yourself and shoot

[@ianwybul6183]

Everytime I see a new Roze video drop I am moistened

[@skieochre3745]

Great editing, the clocktower snippet was hilarious XD When I started the game, I found the leveling to be too fast. Especially compared to classic wow.

[@MRDaved]

The grove is what made me quit. Couldn't navigate through it to find the quest person I needed to talk to

[@daze4135]

2:52 "And so they leaf me with no choice...." I see what you did there.

[@RozeMMO]

thought my accent might make that one impossible to pick up

[@ShinsukeMoriya]

this game Open World is a ADHD trap XD

[@icata12345]

i laughed like an idiot 20 mins straight, gj on the edditing i'll be sure to check pt2

[@slackerpope]

Hurmor by negative example is a risky business these days. Thank you for your service!

[@ZlyLudekPL]

Man sometimes the youtube algorithm hits just right and serves you a masterpiece channel just like this one.

[@crankpatate3303]

In short? Because Anet abandoned this part of their content. They've improved their game over the past 12 years by a lot. Added new mechanics for AI enemies, that make it more fun to fight them and they also injected A LOT of power creep as well as a ton of movement options like mounts and glider. Now the original map and content in it is beautifully crafted with a lot of care and passion. But they've never kept it updated. No updates for the minions with the new mechanics. No rebalance of the content (everything is brain dead easy and boring) and it's a shame that Anet let this part of their game - the first player experience - rot like that. Absolute shame. And that's why I tell everyone, they should ignore the original content and hop into new content as fast as possible.

[@MichaelLuckhardt]

You deserve well over 100,000 subs dude. I've watched this entire vid twice and still laugh at your commentary.

[@sandroxino]

that command and conquer ost in the background chefs kiss

[@SpartanOfLuxon]

I've been playing GW2 since its beta and I have never in my wildest dreams that the Silvari is just San Andreas. The Avatar is just Big Smoke.

[@tabe2278]

Looking forward to the rest of the series. And the suffering :D

[@denikehi4579]

19:38 that's what we call foreshadowing Edit: oh sweet summer child... the mad king's clocktower is easy...

[@porkncheese1789]

I always thought it had the best leveling experience out of all mmos...to each their own i guess

[@marinhrabric6162]

Agreed, definitely

[@t3chfx13]

I thoroughly enjoyed it back when it originally released but there were also just tons of players also doing the same content vs nowadays where it feels like a Ghost Town most of the time.

[@marinhrabric6162]

@@t3chfx13 it's more empty than before but honestly i still see a lot of new players everywhere. And not a new character, a new player. When you mouse over, you see they have only 2 mastery points. Plenty of them running around doing stuff. It's really nice to see. Gives me a warm feeling

[@silverwing7279]

@@t3chfx13I dont think think so at all. Whenever an event is happening anywhere, chances are probably 70% that someone or even multiple people are gonna show up to participate. Theres not a single other mmo where I see as many other players while leveling

[@Methillo]

PTSD from the clock tower bit.

[@martij30]

Leveling is the best part of GW2

[@Ramenzz]

S+ effort for the San Andreas outro, bro.

[@marchewkaaron9951]

And that's how u get a sub, minutes pass and my fucking god when do you stop this superior editing? Jesus fucking christ :o Also hope u have more fun with GW2! Game really picks up as it's going

[@Dark_Wizard_of_Mu]

GW2 should not be taken seriously. The fun part is when you dont take it seriously.

[@jameslin3458]

My man is back with more gw2 content!!even tho I haven't play gw2 in few years due to life. I still enjoy all your content. Look at u growing i join when u were only 2k sub or so . Keep up the good work man I love your sense of humor.

[@Grudgebearer47]

The leveling experience in gw2 is still better than most other mmos. If you want to experience literal pure suffering leveling a character in an mmo, play final fantasy xiv.

[@battlebots1]

"i finally got started on the storyline quest I said I'd have a lazerline focus on... a few hours ago" incredibly relatable

[@captainobvious8037]

All i remember about Gw2, is that tilting through Fractal100 with randoms and destroying entire teams in pvp with unorthodox builds was so much fun, that i have forgotten Raids even exist. Sidenote, fuck the dragon mount quests.

[@Joogoo96]

Finally, GW2 has it's schizo. Subscribed.

[@AzrealAsItGets]

Great vid. can't wait for the next one. Commenting for the algorithm.

[@reddfranzen9072]

i do have to agree with not caring about the story characters at the start, they really skip over a lot of them and sprinkle in some main ones here and there, it isnt until he gets to about lvl 35 is when it starts getting more coherent, something to look forward to.

[@patrickdudziak3229]

Bro that fucking sneako bit caught me way off guard lmao

[@midgetydeath]

I mean, I think the leveling is among the best in the genre and waaaay better than wow clones.

[@tangiblearia7179]

Listen… during GW1 we asked for one thing: the ability to jump. GW2 gave that to us. Wishmaster style.

[@RozeMMO]

Asking GW2 devs for something is like activating a monkey's paw wish. You'll get so much of what you asked for that you'll be asking them to stop lmao

[@wiziek]

didn't gw1 had /jump mote?

[@crannberry2437]

2nd time I've come here from Mukluk! Hilarious video, i really enjoyed it!

[@Mike_TGL]

I'm a new player, I've managed to get to level 72 just buy questing and word exploration. It's been fun as hell.