Building a Wrap Around Porch with Cedar: Farm Chains 7

[@ketoinvestor]

Hi Kyle, You asked about “Field Science” and then you answered your own question perfectly. You’re dealing with the actual dimensions of your lumber and “Perfect Math” doesn’t account for the fact that (a) each board’s thickness is about 1/16” away from the promised 1 1/2” thickness, and (b) your clients can’t afford to pay you to plane every surface to perfection, because that level of exactitude isn’t necessary (or even helpful tbh, since wood swells and shrinks with the weather lol)

[@thomastousant7178]

Technology, your computer and compound miter are only tools, you are the person that knows how to use them… Kyle thanks you are inspiring and a great speaker.

[@frikkiediesel1]

Guys I’m from South Africa. We dont build too much with framing here but since I have started watching you along time before you hit a million subs, I’ve wanted to build my next house frame and post. Awesome videos. Really informative and entertaining!

[@herokaspers9696]

hi Kyle, why don't you just drill a big hole off-centre for those brackets. Put the big bolt offcentre, and avoid the releasejoint all the way...?

[@cavtj1]

Quote of the year: "Black is pretty dark"! You're brilliant Kyle! Beyond genius. Don't ever retire man, love the videos. Haven't heard "Caseys" in a while. The great mid-west!

[@smarthome2660]

Thanks for explaining not only the math, but why it is important to learn. Twice in my life I worked with men who had 35 years experience and I had to show them how to do the job that required math. I was in my 20's and had to make a light shadow box in a conference room out of 1"x6"'s. The second was making hip rafter & jack rafters with 1"x6" metal studs for a porch just like this one here. I did not like math in grade school but made it my minor in college, because applied math is so much fun. Geometry & trigonometry is so useful in a lot of applications & trades.

[@oh2oh2]

I am so happy to have found your channel a year or so ago. Its great to see a builder do things the right way and not cut corners even when it is an area that no one may see or can be hidden. And the fact that you and Greg do so much of the work yourself is amazing. Keep up the good work, it is appreciated .

[@krzysiej--9229]

14:16 that was sweet transition, kudos to camera operator.

[@andrewcarr2431]

strive for perfection, if you fail, you'll end up great not good enough. the time it took to do the calculations and cuts is worth it for the results. Many will simply fudge it and walk away; the Porch won't fall down (hopefully) but when you get to the detailed finish work, you'll have extra steps as nothing will line up.

[@TroyDake]

I love the explanation you provide in your videos, it makes for good learning as to why sometimes my measurements are off from plan, thanks!

[@billymckenzie472]

Enjoying the Christmas Vacation reference... "That's a beaut Clark !" love it!

[@jack460able]

hey mate the correct angle settings on the drop saw are as follows:43.5 degrees on the mitre and 12.9 on the bevel cheers buddy

[@greggkiest1069]

Love the banter as well as the information. You guys rock.

[@herbpantaleon7485]

Enjoyed the sound of the Paslode in the background.👍

[@glenalguire6960]

Tapcons would work fine as long as your not in freeze zone , as the frost would cause the two different cement slabs to shift at different levels , unless you poured a footing and went down four to six feet

[@WorldWideWillem-360]

When (at 17:15) you were not 100% happy with your angle, could it have been that the rounded edges off a 6x6 (same with 4x4's) isn't a super good combination with a too thin /small carpenter square? While cutting on the miter saw all should be OK, but when you draw the 45 degree lines those rounded edges come into play. Not sure, just a thought.

[@jeffsloan6946]

Thanks for this video. I am literally framing up my 64x42 wraparound porch this weekend. This video was super helpful. My head still hurts on the hip framing part, but I'll re-watch a few times and see if I can reverse engineer your thoughts during that segment lol

[@EzeMet001]

I saw the final product on this on the Internet, I'll definitely be doing this on the house I'll be closing on.

[@rhinners3407]

Math don't lie.... good job! It's the fact that you TRY to figure it out! Great video... Liked when editor added the math symbols over your "thinking"!

[@hpw59]

A quick tip on cutting the top cut of your hip is when you're marking your pitch(37:32), mark both sides of the tongue of your square and cut your 45 on the long side and then reverse cut your 45 on the short side and you will have a perfect beveled top cut

[@karenkartz3163]

Epoxy anchoring system , cheap insurance to make sure the anchor bolts don't loosen up.

[@tracymankey9314]

You guys are amazing need more carpenters like you most of them want the money and run

[@Zac-u7x]

Your anchor bolt is going to fracture the conrete the same way you started drilling.. water will settle and expand/contract beneath those brackets

[@dougdiplacido2406]

Looking great. Thanks or the video. I would go with a white ceiling just for the reason of brightness with lighting.

[@jaybrown7177]

Have you ever done a lap joint on the porch headers at the mid beam like old barn beams? I do not know which joint is stronger but it probably does not matter much using 6x6's . Great work. Been following you for a few years now and I show your videos in the 8th grade math class that I teach to show when they may use the Pythagorean Theorem. Waiting on an update of your new shop on KZbin. I do not have the IG to follow you.

[@KenLayfield]

Run on a hip rafter is 17 so on your framing square use 4 and 17

[@robertlaird6746]

I was 6' 1 3/4" but by doing construction all my life, I shrank to 6' even. I think it was caused by transporting lumber over my shoulders across job sits. I should get one of those inverters that flips you upside down.

[@JamesSheflin]

Outstanding workmenship

[@marcolavideos]

É muito bonito o seu trabalho Fico admirando com a quantidade de ferramentas que vc tem aí Parabéns pelo seu trabalho Me inspira a continuar com o meu

[@BraxxJuventa]

Go for a white ceiling in your own shop. You won't regret it. It gives you real good light. 😁👍🏼😁👍🏼

[@robertlaird6746]

That corner roof rafter is the hardest board for me to do when I'm framing. It always takes me a long time to get right.

[@thewayidoit8895]

I see you use a couple saws. Do you like the Metabo HPT? Can't believe this great content is only at 98k views after 2 months. I am 600 miles away to the east. Although it may seem close I'm always surprised to hear "sayings". "Good enough for the girls I run with" and "Every once in a while, a blind squirrel finds a nut" both I heard from a former boss who would be 91 if he were still with us!

[@zetamale7952]

Video quality outstanding!

[@dcgltd6657]

Looking at a metabo triple hammer to add to my already embarrassing amount of Impacts for the crew. Are they as good as they look?

[@ketoinvestor]

Another great video Kyle! QUESTION: When cutting these porch posts at different lengths, do you start with the longest cuts first? So if you cut one of the longer posts too short you can still use it for one of the shorter posts?

[@jayawilliams07]

I had that exact thought while I was watching. Makes the most sense.

[@firemanj35]

Great stuff today guys.

[@SteveKompel]

I just curious, what is that pencil you are using? For the longest time I thought you were using a tiny screwdriver to make a mark.

[@projektor4]

As a building draftsman in the UK, I would refer to the "top chord" or the "bottom chord" of a truss.

[@jspeedadventures]

Hy Kyle, could you just drill your post brackets and offset the Simpson Titan to one side or another...or even one on each side of the joint?

[@DSGB91270]

The Perkins gang sent me I been on all the Playlist Dawg

[@nicoquattro3950]

as always great video. I have to question this. Start a little discussion in the comment section lol. In one video you use the Metabo rear handle saw and in another the Makita 40V saw. Wich one is better in your opinion?

[@Z-Bart]

After the blue porch sheathing do the seams need taping before the metal roofing?

[@Shanks344]

23:28 The Big Dogg is barkin'!

[@jayawilliams07]

Black ceiling is the best - just have to over compensate with high lumen led fixtures.

[@ryburnsjr]

Blessyou. Where in the world did you get cedar ?!!!...I live in pa work at home depot and we haven't seen cedar for a few years !!

[@TroyDake]

57:19 time for a new Milwaukee battery nailer :)

[@ptr711]

Use Simpson strong tie epoxy if your titan lines up with a control joint

[@ptr711]

Squirt some in the hole

[@gabequeiroga4471]

What kind of toolbelt do you use?

[@ado-yz9rb]

sky blue !!

[@jimakers6278]

i recommend getting a 18 volt Milwaukee framing gun.

[@ninjajeepsta]

Hi Kyle, where can I buy a pencil like that? The one with a fine tip, black with a green top. Never seen one like it, I'd like to try it out. Thanks!

[@srchubz]

it's a Pica pencil

[@mattdodds2954]

Google tracer deep hole marking pencil

[@nicholasroy9125]

I think the problem is that your to side tables are not coplanar. You had to raise your beam to get it to the other side, that is why you get your little angle.

[@shenlonggohan]

So the concrete on the porch was a little bigger than specified. Is it ever too small?

[@charlievanlandingham567]

All the time. Have had drafters even draw beams going into absolutely nothing

[@pr0mptish]

Doing a little wrap around!

[@coryclark9259]

You should round over the top of your posts. It would look better and be less prone to splitting later.

[@robertlaird6746]

The only tool that I have that's Black & Decker/ DeWALT is my miter saw stand. The stands that you have suck unless your on a board flat surface to set them on. I mounted my Hatachi miter saw on a 3/4 piece of plywood and then fitted the DeWALT brackets on the bottom of the plywood. It clicks right on easily every time. I'm on my 4th DeWALT miter saw stand because they are not built very well. They always ware out on the ends where the extension screws on. I wish someone would make something like this that's built better.

[@coreylinzmeier6801]

Do you have a discount code for truwerk anymore?

[@zephyr1408]

Try next time doing 45.5 degrees ? It’s just a cleaner miter? Coming from a finish carpenter who lives at the old miter saw buddy!

[@OleGramps53]

Light Gray will reflect the light without blinding the camera.

[@АмржанНаурзбаев]

Все супер!!! Как же я мечтаю о таком наборе акумуляторных инструментов. Я тоже занимаюсь подобным, но ни как не могу себе позволить приобрести такие инструменты

[@netwt449]

Yes you can… if you can do this kind of work, you should be charging your customers what you are worth!

[@АмржанНаурзбаев]

@@netwt449 ни слова не понял, но думаю что то хорошее 😃😃😃

[@islandvoyager7061]

Does anyone know the brand name of the green handled marker laying next to the column support bracket at 4:22 in the video? Thanks, Dan.

[@srchubz]

it's a Pica pencil

[@Vtv837]

How do I purchase a framing square like the one you are using 😊

[@srchubz]

Martinez Tools

[@tomp538]

Wow! 6x6x10 stick of cedar $200 today!

[@davidallen803]

Dude get with the times man, its MAN GLITTER. Great video, love your work.

[@jeffreyabercrombie]

Hey the worst saw dust is old mdf soffit repairs, you get the mdf and nice 50 year old insulation 😂

[@snomofilms]

That shop is off the chain

[@Peter-gi3re]

Nice pun 😂

[@mikerb2473]

When you want to say something educational and profound and the next thing you know, "we're going to put some lumber up, it's gonna do some structural stuff. And it kinda is what it is." comes out. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheRooster1122]

WOW,,, What a great video Kyle.!!!! Math math math 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😎

[@williambarnhill7369]

Galvanized like Greg said

[@tommussington8330]

#RRBUILDERS What pencil do you use it looks intersting id like to try them.

[@srchubz]

Pica pencil

[@gladehoffman8727]

when you have a 4 and 12 common rafter your hip/valley rafter will be 4 and 17

[@slimprez26]

It’s blade deflection man. Miter saws (especially contractor grade saws, regardless of brand) just aren’t heavy enough, and don’t have good enough blades and tolerances to cut big materials like that. Is what it is. Only way to do better than what you did is to build in shop with commercial/industrial grade tooling.

[@JH-tc3yu]

Nah

[@DrMJJr]

Ok it’s past time for some shirtless GREG by now Kyle!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@VernBigDaddy]

Nuther Great Vid!

[@doubledarefan]

48:10 If it is cheating, then who is getting shortchanged?

[@paulcochran1721]

"If it looks straight, it is straight!"- J. Diresta

[@netwt449]

I wish you were my builder. Full stop .

[@grannysjugs]

You said it best.. your math is for a perfect world.. that never exists lol.. I would’ve measured out 10-1/2 from the very corner and used my square across the top of your flat 2x6 and lined it up with 10-1/2 on the tape and scribed the line.. saving the step of the block.. I will say I would love to work for you.. I like your quality, I like your personality and shit my name is Kyle too hahahha.. y’all build beautiful buildings and I enjoy watching the vids.!!!!

[@floydlacroix6957]

When I do rafters and hips I just keep cutting and there still too short

[@mathieuguyomard2293]

Well if you don't want to do the math you can have a laptop with your drawings and just hit your measurements directly on the drawings, personally I use autocad. You can get all the dimensions in no time.

[@satamanschmidt3428]

OK I'll admit it. I have no idea as to what a "FARM CHAIN" is. I know what a chain is but what makes it a '"FARM CHAIN." Kyle, you've got to give us city folks a break now and then. Where I grew up my back yard was made of concrete and the only grass I saw grew up between the cracks in the concrete or was on a city park or golf course.

[@rerolley]

Kyle mentioned that his client owns Farm Chains. Going to their web site, it appears these are used in pieces of farm equipment like manure spreaders, planters, elevators, etc.

[@charlievanlandingham567]

Have you ever heard of or used a prazi beam cutter? Instead of working so hard on all the math for your corner ceiling joist why not , set corner, set 2 hip pieces, mark both ends and chalk line across hip. Beams straight, chalk lines right.

[@charlievanlandingham567]

Just a note but that style framing would not work in Florida. I know things are different in other parts of the country. 2x4 will only span 6ft, plywood seams have to have clips in them. I've done some similar porches with 4x6 rough cut heart pine and 1&1/2x6 t&g juniper and cypress mix for roof deck.

[@ldmasterlast]

Was that a Christmas Vacation reference?

[@jeffbrady4281]

Matching shoes??

[@joshuaprice4942]

Hi Kyle what are building

[@eko89er]

Stabila-yellow ceiling.

[@LuisSalazar-du7wf]

You are supposed to dispose of the concrete dust properly not throw. It on the ground

[@GuywHammer]

your filed applied mathematics, I would call it relative dimensioning. When building a cabinet, you start with plans, then you have to build it to what you have at some point. Meh. Just a thought.

[@zephyr1408]

Ok now ? Is that a full kerf blade? I stay away from painted blades ! Forest chop master, FS Tools finish, or Tenru finish ! That’s it or it will wander like a stray dog ! That station is tops and the problem is the saw & blade ? Just saying?

[@zephyr1408]

no battery op miter saw power flux and weak overall full power Dewalt DW 780 or Makita 12” all corded !

[@GGg-ug3jr]

Is the Milwaukee junk?

[@zephyr1408]

@@GGg-ug3jr no great saw! It’s battery powered! However your proven over time saws I listed ? That is a great saw 4 sure I just never liked anything in miter saws that other trim carpenter stay away from? But Spencer Lewis Inside Carpentry has great videos on this subject! He know more than I will ever know & he is only like 34 ? Trims NFL players homes ect.,. Plus he would answer u guys like asap !

[@seancasey2444]

Why not just put 4 tapcons in the bracket and leave the bigger bolt out of the control joint.

[@jmert_5859]

Black ceiling100%

[@Normans_Not_Norman_Experience]

Can you do a tool cost video on one of your builds next time. Build using tools saying cost of tools it takes to build.

[@charlievanlandingham567]

You don't even want to know. That hammer drill alone is probably close to 600. Paslode gas gun +/-500. Lift rental for week varies but I'd say @1000.

[@AaronHope_Sow]

Haugjed so hard at 5'8" 😅

[@jjmathieu5986]

🏆🏆🏆

[@TK-76054]

😍Greg

[@sonidocronicostudio4559]

Spañish subtitulo por favor i like your videos

[@diceberg100]

So what's the reason Greg doesn't wear an audio mic. Not allowed or doesn't want to?

[@RRBuildings]

Doesn’t want to and it’s not his channel So I would never ask him to

[@AlbertLombus]

White

[@deplorable_2024]

1/8” off!?!? Tear it down and start over! 😂😂😂