r/Maliciouscompliance Touch Female Coworkers? Lose Your Job!

[@swiftninja91]

I would probably add one detail to the Whooping Cough story ... IT'S HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS! That office person is so lucky that she didn't get slammed with a lawsuit.

[@nikkiknoderer3453]

Kinda reminds me of the Hopping Cough from a episode of the Smurfs

[@swiftninja91]

@Gabrielle B yes.

[@MatthewSmith-pv6gd]

@Gabrielle B there is now, but there hasn't always been. We don't know how long ago the story actually took place. Heck even a decade ago the vaccine wasn't widely available around the world, so depending on the country where the story took place it might not have been an option, even in more recent years. Beyond that, the vaccine isn't effective 100% of the time (as is the case with most, if not all, vaccines), so they might have been vaccinated and just been one of the unlucky few where it didn't work.

[@fuknames7929]

I caught it once and caused the doctors a heart attack. They had already cured most if not all of whooping cough cases and this idiot kid had just caught it. It was so serious it went up to WHO but at the time stupid me didn't think much of it and only realized how serious it was years later... So that's the story of how I caused a whole nation to have a heart attack.

[@pandaalex38]

I had it once when I was younger so I know how tough it is to have it

[@raidernation7427]

"What kind of worker is Jack?" "He's a great worker when he's not sexually assaulting co-workers". Sounds like a catch.

[@Ahrpigi]

I used to have a friend like that, and I was too young and stupid to recognize what he was doing... Until he tried it on my ex girlfriend the day after we broke up. It's been a decade and I still feel guilty for not clueing in sooner.

[@raidernation7427]

@@Ahrpigi some ppl r good at deception. No guilt warranted. He probably knew u were young enough to believe his intentions weren't malicious. Besides, I (& most people) never learned much from NOT getting screwed over.

[@Ahrpigi]

@@raidernation7427 I know I didn't do anything wrong, he manipulated and gaslit everyone around him. I just wish I'd been able to say something sooner, because I know he took advantage of some very vulnerable people.

[@DrunkSamurai]

Harassing*

[@x2belchlord]

@@DrunkSamurai sexual harassment is still sexual assault

[@jayive34]

"A Swedish branch of a furniture store." Ikea, then. "They sell prestigious and expensive furniture." Not Ikea, then.

[@kevinbrown4358]

A lot of places think IKEA is high end.

[@ellenkarlsson9490]

@@kevinbrown4358 IKEA have some really nice products which are often high quality, for the price at least. It's definitely not the scrape off the bottom of the barrel, as some people like to think. However, the number of staff of the store in the story is way too low to be an IKEA. Even if only 20% of the floor staff were female, that would give it a total number of 35 floor staff.

[@thunderflare59]

SHADE!

[@Obsessedwithanimation]

You took the words right out of my mouth

[@sammythecat2072]

Can confirm that whooping cough in elementary school is a seriously big deal. When i had it, my school took it seriously and didn’t let me come back until i wasn’t contagious anymore. And the whole class had to treat it like covid, it was insane.

[@evilannie8884]

whooping cough is EXTREMELY contagious, and deadly for young children/babies. im assuming they do it because if they caught it, even if they are fine, if they have a baby sibling. That sibling can die.

[@toomuchglitters7254]

They were literally more strict about whooping cough than an actual pandemic. Schools _can_ take contagious diseases seriously, but so many school boards _chose_ not to, which is so sad to me

[@sammythecat2072]

@@evilannie8884 exactly! I wasn’t trying to downplay anything, it’s seriously a big deal. That’s why it’s absurd what the school did in that last story, they were literally endangering kids.

[@evilannie8884]

@@sammythecat2072 oh i know! I was just in still disbelief about what that chick did. I guess i was speaking out of bewilderment at her behavior hahaha

[@MyFiddlePlayer]

I have a relative (a baby) who died from whooping cough (long ago, before the advent of antibiotics). I didn't know him, but the description I have heard was awful. Basically, you asphyxiate slowly. I had whooping cough as an adult, after being fully vaccinated for it, and although it was no more intense than an ordinary head cold, it went on and on and on for like 2-3 months. I could have treated it with antibiotics, of course, but I didn't realize what I had, at first.

[@janputz4157]

I would have let hell loose on that administrator. A parent that's already dealing with a very sick child doesn't need to be harrassed and threatened by some dip administrator that has not the slightest clue about medicine. It's just not okay who does she think she is?

[@warlock5718]

An all knowing fuck (pardon my language).

[@speedstick8981]

Hell I would’ve called cos on the school. Saying that’s there’s an administrator telling a child with whooping cough to go to school.

[@zammymynakersnackstbmoth]

@@speedstick8981 SAME!! I would have recorded it each time then called the police. That's child endangerment. She shoulda been fired.

[@PACMANnot]

You would be shocked at all the pseudo doctors that get hired at schools who think they know shit when they don't. One harassed my mom about my brother who was missing school due to intense (screaming) migraines and threatened CPS on her too. My mom did the same thing that OP did and was sent home right after. Another did the same thing when my brother and I were chronically sick with strep throat. And one more said that "asthma isn't that bad. she needs to leave the inhaler with the nurse." And my mom chewed her out for that one, because we (brother and I) have been hospitalized for days due to asthma attacks. It's crazy.

[@Twinklethefox9022]

@@PACMANnot I had to deal with a lady in middle school that was exactly like the one in the story. Glad I wasn't actually sick (like I was contagious) but I was in so much pain that I couldn't focus. Middle school was the worst year for me ever. Racist students, bullies and a terrible staff. I don't miss it

[@seabass819]

I'm almost certain the insurance agent is enacting her own malicious compliance on the higher ups. Why else would she phrase it that way.

[@elendian]

Probably haha. But as someone in the insurance industry, I just can't get over rSlash's pronunciation of Aetna. It's not "ate-nuh", it's "et-nuh"

[@SailorMya]

I was thinking that too. Insurance agents hands are tied with policies just as much as their clients so I like to think they have their own way of helping people like this. The new stander they got sounds loads better then the old one but we will never know if this was the insurers intention or not.

[@cinsysaynehecht9790]

@@SailorMya pll

[@SkyeFyre2131]

Kinda like in Incredibles when Bob is demonstrating the loopholes for the old lady to get her policy signed.

[@Yvonne-Bella]

@@elendian i didn't even see how it was spelled and i knew something was off. At first i thought he meant Edna, though

[@francescaperron2003]

I'm a Swedish person and I can confirm that generally sexual harrassment is not tolerated at work. I'm glad the issue was taken seriously

[@mostar1219]

At least the Swedish take that sort of thing seriously but it sucks that the United States can't do the same

[@AtotehZ]

You're underselling it. If there's a place you don't wanna be a harrasser, it's Sweden.

[@Prommy666]

Well when Swedes do something (like meatballs, IKEA or selling steel to nazis), the go all in.

[@francescaperron2003]

@Yvon Q. Yeah that's why I said generally. Some places are still problematic

[@Olav_Hansen]

Northern and western Europe are both quite intolerant to harassment cases at the office, because everyone has the right to feel safe at their workplace. It's baffling every time I hear one of those stories, because as far as I know it has been better than that for at least 50 years where I live, at least I have heard how severely harassment was frowned upon even then.

[@darkmask5933]

The insurance story reminds of me of the urban legends of the phone operators, you notice how in the story the operator kept reading off a script that they couldn't service EXISTING gear, but was careful not to give the idea herself to buy new. A lot of operators hate how scummy insurance policies can be, so they do this on purpose. They will reiterate the script carefully, sometimes leaning on certain words, until the person calling in gets the idea themselves. Heard bank and CC operators will do the same thing.

[@LLandS18]

Imagine being a school administrator and thinking you know more than a doctor who issued the note on a widely known contagious disease like whooping cough.

[@PennyAfNorberg]

Like the försäkringskassa in sweden that do that.

[@Tustin2121]

Don’t have to imagine very hard post-2020... 😞

[@matthewmckeehan2997]

As a father of a 22 month old that last clip really brought a tear to my eye.

[@isaiahjordan1019]

I dunno how old OP was in that story, but I’m concerned that they weren’t vaccinated for whooping cough when they were an infant. While it is still possible to get whooping cough when vaccinated, the case would be mild, and less infectious. So I gotta wonder, why they weren’t vaccinated in the first place?

[@jesseelves959]

@@isaiahjordan1019 My wife got whooping cough and she was fully vaccinated- 4 weeks of coughing and a broken rib - this stuff is no joke

[@pamiam9017]

My husband had whooping cough when our son was young. I was driving one day and he had a coughing fit, this was before he was diagnosed. I said to him "If you are going to die, do it already" and he passed out, he was just hanging there in the seatbelt. I pulled over, raced round to his side and yanked the door open, he blinked at me and asked what had happened, I didn't know whether to kiss him or hit him. That was the day he got diagnosed, but only after my GP heard our baby son coughing. They didn't have the signature whoop, but there is still notable sounds in the cough. It's bloody scary.

[@pv7875]

That's horrifying, whooping cough just seems so sad. Especially when it's with people that don't have the best immune systems. They just suffer, I hope your son and husband are doing better now.

[@murtaghmorzansson]

That insurance lady was definitely waiting for op to take the hint and get a whole new stander

[@BurningWell]

Absolutely, you know she isn't allowed to suggest it but she stayed on the line and kept repeating the same thing in the hopes that OP would catch on.

[@Car_guy31]

As an Indian, I'm kinda guessing that the first story is from an IKEA in India. Sexual harassment has just recently started to getting addressed. Our previous generations just accepted this as normal phenomena. I'm glad that our generation is intolerant to this. Having moved to US a few years back, I realized how incredibly well people in the management and HR handle harassment here. I wish it wasn't a sad reality that still existed in India, hopefully, our youth will keep fighting.

[@mwthekoopinator]

I was wondering the same thing, but OP confirmed on the original post that it was NOT IKEA. Apparently it's supposedly a higher end furniture shop, and they don't consider IKEA high end

[@queenofputrescence5167]

@@mwthekoopinator I was orignally thinking IKEA until they said high end, luxurious retailer. Plus only 20 people on the floor. Definitely not IKEA!

[@josephnorris4095]

Then your experience here in America has been isolated and minimal, at best. However, welcome to the USA, regardless.

[@Car_guy31]

@@josephnorris4095 ah. Could've been

[@schrodingerscat3741]

it really depends on the place in the US. A work place can get in a lot of trouble for not taking sexual harassment seriously, so most at least pretend to, but it's still pretty prevalent in some workplaces/industries.

[@morgandouglas6014]

Jack: “Just tell them the truth!” Also Jack: “Why did they reject me in my job interview?! I’m a hard worker!”

[@DarkCrow02]

"hard" worker

[@Manglethefox238]

Yeah “hard worker”.

[@vpombovp]

Yes. Jack works hard at sexually harassing his female co workers. I’m not going to say that his last name is Meoff because it’s not worth the trouble

[@equalfire]

yeah i bet he was "hard" at work...

[@ishkar5k]

hard "worker" alright

[@franl155]

I can't get into the mind of someone who thinks that sexual harassment and unwanted and uninvited sexual contact is so trivial that he's confident that, if his ex-bosses "tell the truth" he'll get another job easily.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

What's terrible is how common his mindset is.

[@josephnorris4095]

@@SoManyRandomRamblings Nah, what is terrible is that the double standards exist, where the women can commit the crime and not do any time. Therefore, keep work at work, do not shit where you eat.

[@franl155]

@@SoManyRandomRamblings - sadly true! probably comes from porn, where women's bodies are only objects for men's pleasure

[@debymello4756]

Go cry for your imaginary victim somewhere that doesn't have a tale of a real victim, or at least don't try to sound like you'd give him the job

[@hungrymusicwolf]

@@SoManyRandomRamblings I have not once met a person who thought like that. The amount of people with the idea that it is many times more common than the mindset that sexual harassment is unimportant. So, even if there are people who believe it none of them are socially inept enough to think they can actually get away with it (like the guy in the video). This is much more likely to be from another culture, one such as what another commenter pointed out: India. It used to have a culture where it was prevalent in and the newer generation is only now changing things (and coming into conflict with the older generation along the way). I also know many middle eastern countries used to or still have that culture. This mindset is very uncommon in western countries, though still somewhat prevalent in many other cultures.

[@jackmack4181]

Funny story similar to the last one. In high school I got whooping cough…HARD. I cough so long and harsh that my coughs sounded more like gasps. It hurt to to do anything with my throat. I told my mom that I didn’t feel well and she responded with “it’s just a cough, it’ll go away on its own” (she’s not Karen but sometimes she doesn’t realize that I’m not lying). So I had to toughen up for roughly a month. My malicious compliance came roughly a few days after I was done being sick, when I heard my sister and my mom coughing harshly. Apparently they got whooping cough after I finally stopped getting and I got to watch them drive to hospitals, get inhalers and other such medications. All the while I sat and marveled at universal karma Highlight is when my mom asked how I could stand this, and I responded with “you told me to toughen up, so I did. Now it’s your turn”

[@ryancook4771]

Last story: if I was the mom I wouldn’t have done that. That’s needlessly putting all those other kids in danger. Just call the doctor, and tell them what the admin said. They’ll call the school. Then skip calling the principal because he/she clearly isn’t doing their job with office staff like that. Just call the school superintendent’s office. They’ll know how serious whooping cough is. Let them know that this admin threatened to call CPS on you because of your kid being sick with whooping cough. Let them know that if that happens, especially since the doctor has probably already contacted the school to confirm the diagnosis, that you will be filing a law suit against the school. Mention things like negligence on their part, and “caused me emotional distress”. Throw a big number at them for cost of damages. Then sit back and watch that admin lose their job in record time.

[@joannamyers1268]

According to a further edit, the mother sent her daughter to school bundled up and wearing a mask, so she reduced exposure as much as possible.

[@joannamyers1268]

Also, that sounds like wonderful advice. If I'm in that situation, I'm totally doing that.

[@ryancook4771]

@@joannamyers1268 yea rslash read that she put a mask and all that on her, but the best way to minimize exposure is to not expose anyone. I know she felt hassled, and was at her wits end, but that’s the admins fault. Not the other kids, or their families. They became unknowing collateral damage in her pettiness. If any kids ended up sick that’s not on the admin. It’s on the mom because she decided to maliciously comply instead of just throwing the admin under the bus. As a parent with teenagers and a toddler, if that had happened, and one of my kids ended up sick, I’m going after her. Not the school. She knowingly risked lives for no reason. I mean what if some kid unknowingly brought that home to their infant sibling? Depending on where they live that could be prosecuted as man slaughter. Both of the adults in this one were childish and dangerously irresponsible.

[@davidmh2171995]

Nope, I would've went right to the administrator's office and let my kid cough RIGHT IN THEIR FACE so they would know EXACTLY how bad it is.

[@ryancook4771]

@@davidmh2171995cool cool. Purposely infecting someone with a disease is illegal, but you just go assault people like the unnecessary bad@$$ that nobody asked for or needed.

[@transsnack]

So, I was a EMT for a bit, and we had an entire section on common childhood illnesses and what they can do to kids. I had nightmares about blue babies for months because of the whooping cough section of it. The baby in the clip is receiving proper medical care, the babies we had to see videos of hadn't. It still kinda haunts me.

[@troberts1]

Damn. I wasn't prepared to see the clip of that poor baby, and that was a baby getting adequate care. >.

[@transsnack]

@@troberts1 that was about as good as whooping cough gets in a baby that young. It's why prevention is key in cases like this. This wasn't even the worst illness in the section, but the sound is just... horrifying.

[@silverflight01]

Story 1: A hostile workplace, especially when SA is involved, should never be permissible, even if it's in a different country. The moment you start harming people, it's your fault. That boss definitely hated the fact that someone was being creepy in the office and went to 11 on the investigation. Smart move, boss.

[@BersealiaDreamheart]

I have only one thing to say about Jack the Creeper: What a misogynist moron.

[@silverflight01]

Story 6: CDC says that it can last up to 10 weeks, and even then you might have to deal with stuff like pneumonia, apena, loss of bladder control, etc, depending on your age. It's THAT bad. Anyone that doesn't understand this NEEDS to immediately

[@queenofputrescence5167]

I had it around age 40. My vaccine was only 5 years before (10 year between vaccinations) but I got it anyway. I learned really fast not to ever have even a partially full bladder at any point. Plus if I cough too much with a normal cold, I end up throwing up. I was throwing up multiple times a day from all of the coughing. It was miserable, but fortunately my husband and two kids didn't catch it.

[@DeplorableMe83]

When my granddaughter was about a year and a half she got whopping cough so bad that she tore the lining of her larynx and esophagus so bad that she developed a bacterial infection in the lining. Was in the hospital for far too long with threat of emergency surgery looming. Thankfully she recovered with just a ton of medication.

[@Hybrid301]

To quote Emporer Kuzco: “No Touchy!” Love how the higher up took out the trash.

[@buzzsawwyrm1595]

"Kronk pull the lever" W R O N G LEVER

[@AngelWingsTVdavcs]

That video clip of the baby with whooping cough was heartbreaking. I hope no one ever has to deal with that or have a kid who has it.

[@cecejamesable]

The fact that people can literally break their ribs just from coughing hurts me the most. Normal coughing is irritating enough on its own, imagine coughing with enough force to bust your own ribs and and not being able to breath. That's a hell no one deserves.

[@shadowpuppet8192]

I have a child who will be 6 weeks on Monday and a 5 year old who starts school this fall. I worry about enough things on the daily. I didn't wanna add whooping cough to that list of worries.

[@TheSimba86]

I had it years ago, you cough so much that you're whole body is sore, took me months to get over it

[@SailorMya]

@@TheSimba86 Yea, even when the disease "runs its course" doesn't mean the devastation on your body just magically goes away... I'm also seeing lots of comments talking about how whopping cough can open you up for other sicknesses like pneumonia...

[@Annie_Annie__]

When I had my son 13-ish years ago there were PSA ads on tv to remind people to get their pertussis (whopping cough) vaccines and to get their older kids vaccinated. The PSA played audio of a baby with whooping cough coughing and coughing and coughing and then finally making the distinctive “whoop” sound when she was finally able to inhale. Those ads suddenly made terrified that every adult and child around us wasn’t vaccinated for pertussis because it can easily unalive a baby and kids aren’t fully vaccinated for it until about age 5. Until then they’re very vulnerable. So, if you’re an adult remember that you should be getting a pertussis vaccine (it usually comes with Tetanus and is called Tdap for short) every 10 years. If you can’t remember when the last time you got a Tdap vaccine was and don’t have a medical record of it, go ahead and get one. It won’t hurt if it’s been more recent and then you’ll have a record of it. If it helps, pick a memorable date to get it so you’ll remember it every 10 years. For example, I got one a week or so before my kid was born, so I know when he turns 10, 20, 30, etc I’m due for that shot. Get the shot close to your 20th or 25th birthday. Or if you can line it up right, in 2025. Things like that. Then it’s easier to remember when to get the next shot and you’ll never be unvaccinated and never inadvertently put vulnerable babies or other folks at risk.

[@dewander22]

That same insurance company did something similar to me. I have c/p also, and when I needed a new wheelchair to get around campus. They said no, they didn't see a medical need. They even denied the doctors and occupational therapists' letters of my condition. So I sent every piece of paper and a photo of myself with my crutches to the company's president with a note that read"see you in court." I received my new wheelchair within 30 days.

[@Mike-qp8bv]

The one company I worked for I was the shop foreman and one of my duties was hiring and firing. In my country it's actually illegal to give a bad review on a reference. You can't say things like he was lazy and didn't show up on time. It's just all in the wording. When I was hiring I would always call their previous employer and ask them one simple question. "Given the opportunity would you hire ____ back full time ?" It's a simple yes or no question and the answer says everything you really need to know.

[@debymello4756]

Doesn't that kinda kill the porpuse of a review?

[@mostar1219]

It sucks that that happened to all the girls but it feels so good that the boss was sticking up for the employees except for Jack

[@kerryalbany3922]

I'm in my 50s now and I have noticed how attitudes to sexual harassment in the workplace have improved, especially with younger management. .So well done millennials !!! EDIT: I meant this as a good thing, you're more likely to be taken seriously when reporting harassment than you would have been in the 80s

[@josephnorris4095]

To the point where now, you never be with a woman at work, alone, for any reason whatsoever. Also, speak about nothing but work related stuff and literally nothing else, they are not your friends nor your family.

[@rosieposie1760]

"I called our provider Aetna" well there's your problem. Anyone who works in healthcare who has anything to do with billing will tell you Aetna is the reason why commercial health care doesn't work.

[@ShelbyZealand]

I would have said Cigna was the problem. lol

[@charminglady2011]

Thank you soooo much for saying this. My surgical denials are mostly Aetna. The number of horror stories I have. I hate insurance but the worse one is Aetna.

[@tetraganii]

I've had Aetna before with my father's work insurance. They were always horrible and I always felt bad for asking for medical help because they always gave my mother a headache about everything. It's also pronounced étna in case rslash sees this.

[@viv8871]

Aetna, Cigna, and Anthem are by far the worst denials I have to work. They're awful insurances anymore, so many hoops to jump through. They broke all.commercial insurances at this point. And Anthem Medicare is WORSE

[@marywebb_22]

Aetna was horrible when we used them 😂 my brother had cerebral palsy and my parents had to use them for 18 years while my brother was alive. Man they were so hard to deal with. Once they sent us a letter to OUR HOUSE saying that we couldn’t use them anymore because they didn’t have OUR ADDRESS. Absolute incompetence lmaooo

[@cecejamesable]

I hope the 'lady' in the last story got chewed out for just harassing the mom about the kid with whooping cough. On top of that, she has the gall to be indignant about the kid she harrassed the mom about not sending them to school when he looked like Death had been hovering over them for about a month.

[@Twinklethefox9022]

I had dealt with someone similar in middle school. Let's just say it was a natural thing but I felt so bad that I had extreme nassuea and cramps. She thought I was faking it.

[@cecejamesable]

@@Twinklethefox9022 God, I hate people like that. And I know what you're talking about, and I just have the cramps, if I had the nasuea, I wouldn't be able to move.

[@SailorMya]

@@Twinklethefox9022 I would LOVE to see these office workers medical degrees that allows them to decide when a sick child needs to come back to school! (or leave) lol

[@ZombieMinion1992]

She probably has no actual idea who the student is and just saw a message on her computer that the kid was absent so much and got upset. I would take it to the principal.

[@SailorMya]

@@ZombieMinion1992 True, but usually those attendance programs have notes and if she is constantly calling them you would think she would remember such an extreme case even in a sea of kids... If she was truly in constant contact and getting the same answer what more is her pestering going to get her? Honestly, I would be more on her side if it wasn't for her attitude towards a sick child when they final did what SHE wanted...

[@FaerieAmira]

I wanted to cry watching that baby cough, it scared me so bad that she was just gonna stop breathing entirely

[@dracko158]

Boss: "Lol you're fired! Lol, just a prank bro!" OP: **Actually leaves** Boss: **Shocked Pikachu Face**

[@cthulhuwizard]

I've heard of whooping cough, and I was even studying to become a nurse to later study to become a paediatric doctor. I've seen countless videos of babies coughing their lungs up, but I honestly had no idea that it can physically stop them from breathing. It honestly pains me to see any child in distress, all I've ever wanted to do is help any and all children, and whenever my own 2 kids are sick with anything bigger than a cold or bigger than a tummy bug, I feel incredibly useless because I want to help them not be in pain, and I want to help them get better, but I don't have the necessary knowledge, skills or even access to what they may need if they got worse. I feel so helpless. Another reason I wanted to get into paediatrics is my sister. She went through years of incredible excruciating pain that landed her in hospital almost nightly and on some occasions she needed the green whistle (if you don't know what that is, it's basically a pain reliever and contains the drug Penthrox) this has been going on for years now, but has settled a bit in the last year, and they don't have a diagnosis. She's had countless tests and even a laproscopy and they always came back fine. It got to a point where people just didn't believe she was in pain and was faking it to get her fix on any analgesics. I wanted to become a surgeon and try and figure out what was happening with my sister so she could get the treatment she needs. Unfortunately, due to my own health, I'm unable to do the work of a surgeon, even the work nurses do is too much for me, but I hope that one day someone is able to help people like my sister, and I honestly hope that one day there is something we can do about whooping cough in babies.

[@therealskarlit]

I understand having to prove the administrator wrong, but even with a mask, going in the school and putting other children at risk is a terrible thing to do. There were other ways to handle it without putting other babies at risk.

[@b.c.9358]

I agree with you, but how? I'm just curious, because I'm sure that administor was so self-righteous that she would have called CPS on the mom if she *hadn't* brought the kid to school. Edit: someone else said to call the doctor and have the doctor call the superintendent and I think that answers my question. Go over her head.

[@therealskarlit]

@@b.c.9358 yeah having the doctor call in for sure. Or even scheduling a zoom or video call with the administrator for while they’re at the doctor so both the parent and doctor can prove the condition of the child as well.

[@LilChuunosuke]

I've never had whooping cough, but I had an allergic reaction to high levels of smoke inhalation many years ago and my allergic reaction was the same: I could not stop coughing. I ending up *fainting* for a few seconds from lack of oxygen and had to be carried to a space with cleaner air. That crap is no joke. It's absolutely horrifying no matter the age.

[@pinkdolphin1014]

"Hmm, where should I get my reference from? I know! The place that fired me for sexual assault! And I'll tell them to say the truth about the! What could POSSIBLY go wrong?"

[@matthewmcdaid7962]

Re: Stander for Cerebral Palsy Patient The next time you want a set of replacement straps, have the order cut for a new stander as you did this time. Contact the manufacturer's rep and cut an agreement that they buy back the stander less the straps and send you the straps and a check for the difference. Aetna is happy, the manufacturer is happy, you are deliriously happy.

[@malachiReformed]

I got whooping cough at 16. . . the year they introduced the booster for it. The guy at the health department said "you can get the old booster, which doesn't cover whooping cough for free, or the new one for $100. both get you compliant for school, so just take the older one, since no one gets whooping cough anymore" .. . 6 months later I spend 3 days in the hospital and the next year recovering. And let's just say I have choice words for certain groups now.

[@nicholassanabria6493]

Whooping cough isn’t just deadly to babies just like you said R/ that you can break ribs from coughing people have died because of the broken ribs from whooping cough due to internal bleeding

[@vaporean_boylove.0w083]

Diseases are fucking terrifying!

[@jessilyngray1223]

I had whooping cough in middle school. My parents kept saying I just had a cold they always said we didn't have insurance so they couldn't afford to take us to the doctor. But I can easily remember fighting to breath while coughing. I was only taken to the doctor after a family friend (who my parents stopped talking to after this) told my mom they should. I remember the urgent care doctor yelling at my mom and getting to stay home for at least a week. I remember sleeping a lot and being home alone because it was the 90s. I have a in the sick fog memory of CPS showing up and talking with my parents. It took years of my shit like this and me finally taking matters into my own hands in highschool to get it better. I take no chances with my children. My mom says that I worry too much about there health and take them to the doctor for every thing. I don't but if something lingers longer then it should I sure as hell do.

[@maggpiprime954]

One of the most difficult ppl I ever worked with shocked me with compassion one day when, during conversation where I was describing a recent illness said, "oh honey... it sounds like you had whooping cough!" I had thought whooping cough only happened in Victorian novels, but no, she taught me all about it. I definitely reshaped my attitude towards her after that, and she improved too. I hope she's well.

[@-NiamhWitch-]

My oldest had Whooping Cough (even though she was vaccinated for it) and it lasted months. It was awful.

[@LinkHero25]

First off, being vaccinated does not block or prevent whatever you got it for. That's not what they're made for. Vaccinations are meant to strengthen your immune system. So if you got sick with the flu, shingles, covid, or whatever it may be, it won't be as bad if you got the illness unvaccinated.

[@-NiamhWitch-]

@@LinkHero25 ​ Dude, I didn't say it did. I was just mentioning that my child was vaccinated so I didn't get some goober telling me I should have vaccinated her lol. I know how vaccines work. ;-)

[@LinkHero25]

@@-NiamhWitch- Sorry for jumping the gun. I hear people spreading misinformation about vaccines way too often I thought you indicated that in your comment. My Dad, who's anti-vax and only got the covid vaccine due to getting fired if he didn't, would say this all the time to everyone. He won't believe you that the information is wrong even if constantly correct him on it.

[@InsomniacUnicorn]

I got whooping cough in high school - I would cough so hard I’d puke. I have permanent damage to my lungs from it so now I’m asthmatic. And that was at 17, not a small child!

[@TheSimba86]

I had whooping cough years ago, it was pretty awful, I coughed so much my entire body was sore

[@nolalookenbill7053]

I haven't had whooping cough, but once I got extremely sick and coughed so frequently that my diaphragm was sore, so I did have a small sample of what that's like

[@10Raccoon]

"Coughing like a goose fighting a toyota" As someone who had whooping cough in high school, that is exactly what it sounds like. I slept on the couch in the livingroom for a month and a half because it was the easiest way for my parents to take care of me. I also had to drink ensure because I wasn't eating anything because I was coughing so hard I would throw up. Then I basically had long covid for the next year as my body slowly recovered.

[@dorothylloyd1804]

Good morning rslash. Thanks for the stories. Sexual harassment should always be investigated completely and with open minds. Have a great day

[@wendiezearfoss3816]

I was surprised to see the posts from others that they had whooping cough. Are you from a country other than the US where inoculations for this disease are routinely given to children in their first year and required for entry into public school? Or are you among the “lucky” people who don’t develop an immune response? I know older people need a booster as well as immunity does decline over the years. Inoculations for the so called childhood diseases are super important. I grew up in the era of poliomyelitis. Parents rushed to get their kids inoculated because the disease was so serious. And just for the record: vaccines do not cause autism.

[@klocugh12]

Jack is clearly a textbook narcissist if he genuinely thought there was nothing wrong with what he was doing.

[@Cynos_3D]

Had Whooping cough as a teen, you can imagine why, let's not get into it.. But the point is that it's every bit as bad as r/ describes it. I had to be on medication and monitored life support at night to avoid DYING from asphyxiation, and even then there were some close calls. Those few seconds of coughing that leave you breathless feel like an eternity, you don't want to play around with this one..

[@triforceofcourage100]

Insurance always tries to wriggle out of paying for things they’re all a bunch of crooks who get off on leaving people high and dry

[@ariadnedubs]

Perfect for an ADHD brain. There is no way I can make my bed or get ready without an rslash vid lmao

[@SometimesAbel]

Same! 😂😂😂 My sister already knows. If rslash is on il about to do homework or housework.

[@BestOnThursdays]

I am with you time to do dishes haha

[@nixthelapin9869]

It’s like a podcast, but with text! Perfect for my ADHD and auditory processing problems 😂

[@sarahp5003]

It's also perfect for my part time job of cataloging donated books for a research library. Helps keep me focused.

[@mermaidmoongoddess]

my adhd brain hyperfocused on his channel a few months ago and i watched the entire malicious compliance AND pro revenge in 2 months. it was all i watched for a full two months and there was really nothing i could do about it

[@johnsmith5922]

I grew up with something akin to whooping cough. But just naturally. My cough is so heavy that doctors think I have whooping cough. Even as an adult when I got Covid. I coughed hard enough to slightly damage my lung.

[@TheKillerqueen40]

As someone with a really awful cough at the moment (during bad coughing fits, I've started vomiting a small amount) and also as a nurse, that office lady can take a long hike off a short pier.

[@jeo1812]

I listen to the podcast everyday on my lunch break, but I came to the video because I just felt the need to comment that the audio clip of the baby wheezing from whooping cough made me tear up and almost break down in the middle of a restaurant. I tried to keep my composure, but when my sister asked me what was wrong (she works with me), I tried to speak, but no words came out. It just saddens and angers me that some people refuse to vaccinate their children, and that there are people actively lying about vaccines.

[@redfailhawk]

I've had whooping cough many times. It's so unpleasant. If I get it now, I'm banned from my volunteer job until a doctor says I'm clean, due to risks for the others I worked with. I work with immunocompromised individuals. I'm currently vaccinated for it thankfully, and because of the slight risk of it jumping species, I actually have my service dog vaccinated for it too (Bordetella is optional in the US, which frankly disgusts me). Sadly, vets in my area don't offer it for Cats, but I figure that my kitty is protected via herd immunity for the most part...

[@kikineptune316]

In all seriousness, it irritates me how much health insurances companies in the US give you grief, especially when you're disabled

[@PivotCyroy]

Caught whooping cough as an adult. Never once in my life have I ever felt like I was going to die, but everytime I coughed my lungs empty and it was impossible to breathe back in, feeling like I was being choked. Genuinely the most horrible feeling I've ever had.

[@jablue4329]

"Promised the world" but "only got Iceland." I'm stealing that one.

[@trumpetduck1206]

This dudes content is so much better than the text to speech channels, love the effort!

[@SailorMya]

I wont even watch those channels because it annoys me when the program messes up words or tries to read non-words/abbreviations. I love "reddit read" channels just not those ones. Thankfully, there are a lot more human readers now so I can avoid those channels all together.

[@trumpetduck1206]

Agreed, I doesn't feel like any effort is going into those channels, just copy paste

[@phylliskress2296]

Concerning the last story, iirc whooping cough is also dangerous for pregnant women. I believe they could lose the embryo/fetus (but I could be mistaken.) If there's anyone who is qualified to explain the repercussions of whooping cough on pregnant women, please correct me if I'm wrong.

[@mr.scarlo2234]

I hope that everyone is having a good Thursday!

[@bluender2125]

Back at you

[@laggygamer8872]

my cat went missing yesterday, so im not but thanks

[@chancebishop6213]

I honestly forgot the day of the week thx for Reminding me

[@BladefireA]

@@laggygamer8872 I hope you find them, I'd be devastated if mine went missing 😢

[@blaccoutemily]

haha im dying of heat

[@danielbrant6740]

_"$427 in replacement parts for a piece of medical equipment? Nah, let's spend nearly $6000 on a brand new one!"_ It's no secret that insurance companies are profit focused (not just US based ones), but how dumb do the higher-ups have to be when they think that buying entirely new things is cheaper in the long run than simply paying for new parts? Imagine how expensive if people did this with _cars._ _"Need new brakes? Screw that! Just get them a newer vehicle!"_

[@IxWxSxProud]

As someone who helped get medical equipment for work comp patients, can confirm that some insurance companies would rather just pay for a completely new thing rather than getting it repaired. They then complain about the cost of things and when you counter that a quote for repairs is significantly cheaper they get a surprised Pikachu face.

[@kolerick]

it basically depend on the regulations put by your country law makers... if they did the work to stop the insurance from taking your kidney as payment for an otherwise 10$ medecine, you're golden... the problem is that in the US, insurances and, in truth, the whole healthcare system, isn't about people health so much as it is about their own wealth...

[@azurethemis9312]

The Last story reminds me of the time I had a serious stomach flu that had me in and out of school for a few weeks particularly during semester exams too I was in the attendance office waiting for my dad when the Clerk harassed me saying it's not good for me to miss this much school and forced me to walk around the ENTIRE SCHOOL for signatures on an excuse note that was worthless (I ended up vomiting 3 times during that trip ) and was in the middle of yelling at me saying why can't I just have a bucket beside me while I work on exams when my father came in and verbally curbstomped her ass threatening to get the Principal involved if she didn't stop harassing me which ended in her making the typical speechless Karen gaping fish face sounding like a broken car engine as my dad signed me out of school to get Gatorade and Soup

[@thehangmansdaughter1120]

My son got whooping cough as a baby, before he was old enough to be immunised against it. He was so sick he spent days on oxygen, with a cough that sounded like a small dog was barking. Whooping cough is no joke, it's a notifiable disease in New Zealand, as it's both dangerous and highly contagious. Anyone who fails to understand this has no business working in a school.

[@MegaPlayerXxX]

Few years back, my grandma, peace to her soul, got a new electric wheelchair, paid by the insurance company. After about 3 years, the battery started dying. We asked for replacement. The battery by itself cost about 100 USD. Doctor signed it, vendor signed it, but insurance company said that they would not cover spare parts. So... we asked them if a whole new wheelchair would be fine. They said yes. So... we picked one that was about as expensive. However, since technology advanced during those years, we actually managed to get a whole lot better one. Stronger motors (yeah, 2 of them), bigger batteries, cup holder, etc. Doctor immediately signed it, didn't even check the price since... he knew damn well what was going on. Vendor signed almost instantly as well and now, insurance company, instead of paying 100 USD for a single battery, they had to pay 6000 USD for brand new wheelchair. Not that we were complaining. XD Now that grandma passed away, we posted both wheelchairs for donations and both found their new owners, for free. Best part was that the better one went to a little girl. Insurance company refused to pay them for a wheelchair and now they had one of the best ones on the market. That look in girl's eyes when she was first sat in it and started driving in it was F-ing priceless.

[@lista2308]

I wonder if any of the other parents found out that the nasty admin lady forced a child with whooping cough to enter the school

[@L1K34PR0]

14:27 a goose fighting a toyota is an amazing analogy

[@joycetaepke2533]

My daughter, myself and my grandson all came down with whopping cough. Sadly, we’ve all been vaccinated against it. Turns out that it’s not as effective as we thought. 😞

[@ainzooalgown3927]

Diseases do mutate over time, so that vaccine could become outdated for your area.

[@emeraldqueen1994]

Second story : I have CP too! OP, please tell your son that I empathize with you and your son when it comes to stupid insurance policies! (I once got told that they weren’t going to pay for my physical therapy because they said that my disability was “too mild” 🤦‍♀️

[@TheSecretLover]

I’ve had whooping cough or at least something very similar back in last 2019. It last a month and a half and was the worst. I’d wake up every hour due to a coughing fit and just kept a gallon of water near me the whole time to ease the sensation of someone sanding the inside of my throat. Just stayed home and refused to see my family for my birthday since my sister had a baby and a toddler at the time. Now the slightest tingle or cough has me on edge because I feel like I won’t stop at one. I can’t imagine what the would have been like if I was a child and probably would have cried if I had to go out just to prove I was sick.

[@ovni2295]

There is actually a good reason for Aetna to reject the cheap replacement parts on the stander. Their thinking is probably that "Old medical equipment with part failures is a hazard and a liability for the company if a customer tries to use it with the parts we supply and it hurts them. Better to replace than repair." But that's giving them a HUGE benefit of the doubt, which I'm not sure they deserve.

[@SleepyKyju]

When I was 16-17 (lasted 6 months over my birthday), I had a mystery illness. After lots of tests and everything and thinking I had a blood clot in my lungs, finally we figure out that my issue was having severe acid reflux. The stomach acid was going up into my lungs and burning my respiratory system. Fascinating I'd been to the hospital with stomach complaints not even a year prior and none of the medical professionals figured that one out. I lost 50lbs, was throwing up so often from my severe coughing fits that I started just carrying a bucket around instead of trying to get to the toilet, and couldn't take more than a few steps without getting completely winded. I did a lung capacity test thingy made of plastic that would move a little ball based on your breathing and it said my lungs were working at like, less than half capacity or something. I don't remember. One of my issues was that I'd cough so much and so hard that my diaphragm would get a *fucking Charlie horse* and just not work. Seeing an INFANT have to deal with that is heartbreaking. Having your lungs physically not able to breathe the air all around you and already hurting from coughing is so scary. Anyway that was 10 years ago now. Not eating or drinking within a few hours if bed time and taking some tums as needed has solved my problem.

[@ImperiousMax]

That last story reminds me of the time I had acute bronchitis in high school. I had come into school around lunch after a doctor's appointment where I found out I had bronchitis, and presented a doctor's note and all, informed the front desk admin I have an antibiotics prescription and all. Her response was literally "oh everyone's getting sick around this time of year (it was December) so you can go to class with this." Worst of all my mom just agreed with her cause she didn't want to deal with the backlashing. It was painful to tell my friends and teachers that I had bronchitis and still had to attend class after, with my antibiotics eventually that I had to take IN THE MIDDLE OF CLASSES while coughing my lungs out.

[@MusicLoverGurl]

Regarding the story where the boy's replacement parts for his stander wouldn't be replaced: I used to work in call centers and I KNOW that the agent kept emphasizing that replacement parts wouldn't be covered because they're not allowed to directly tell the client that they should try ordering a new device (calls get monitored), but they sure af knew it would be allowed to order a new device if they could get the client to pick up the hint. PAY ATTENTION when talking to call center workers, especially if things aren't going how you want--they might be trying to give you a hint for an alternative to get what you want that they aren't allowed to outright tell you!

[@b.c.9358]

Rslash, thanks for showing us the video at the end. You're educating us about something so important, and I hope someday someone will remember how bad whooping cough is and will have compassion for someone's sick child.

[@gaveintothedarkness]

The first boss is an MVP. He saw and took immediate action.

[@rhondah.1478]

Oh, that clip of the baby with whooping cough hurt my heart! That poor squish. Insurance companies are so insane. Rather than pay for replacement parts, they'd cover the expense for a whole new piece of equipment that costs much more. Make it make sense. Fired as a joke: My guess is OP didn't want to buy a car and house at the same time initially because he didn't want to show new debt to income while buying the house.

[@canadalovesanime3137]

I had whooping cough at 15. My mother accused me of faking and ignored it for a month. My father finally demanded I get taken to the doctor, after I lost my voice from the coughing. I was given medicine and told not to even try to talk for two weeks. That freaked me out because I love to sing. The doctor said I'd be lucky to talk again. My mother was happy that I'd have to "give up that stupid fantasy of being a singer". I have never seen a doctor give a dirtier look at a person than the one my mother got that day. I went from singing things like Pat Benatar to singing things like Joe Cocker and Dire Straits. This might not seem like a big deal, but as a 15 yr old girl this was horrible. I have a very deep voice to this day and get mistaken for a guy on the phone all the time. Jokes on my mother; I still sing Dire Straits and other such. ;)

[@TheSimba86]

15:45 I actually had whooping cough years ago. It was pretty terrible, you cough until there's no more air in your lungs but you're still trying to cough, and muscles in your chest get tired and strained from coughing so much that so it starts hurting when you cough

[@amyspeers8012]

Old school nurse here. Pertussis-whooping cough-is serious. After 5 days of being on antibiotics you are no longer contagious…but that doesn’t mean you feel like being in school! Yes…I have had to track a pertussis outbreak and the paperwork was a nightmare.

[@birdynerb]

I suffered whooping cough for almost 2 years and was forced to continue working in food service by the store owner. After coughing so much I vomited twice in the trash, she would keep saying "Wow, your allergies are that bad, huh?" After being forced to work for a month, I believed it was allergies. I dreaded every Spring, Summer, and Winter because that's when allergens are spiked up and when the air is dry. I had to avoid most spiced foods too. When I moved to another job and it happened again in the middle of winter (projectile vomited out of my car from having so much irritation in my throat and unable to breathe), my coworker forced me to go to Urgent Care. "Oh, you have the whooping cough." I almost cried in relief when I managed to pass a season without going through a coughing fit and wondering if I was going to suffocate to death. It's too late to report the owner, as she sold the store I used to work at.

[@uthmanbaksh3530]

Re: The truth hurts for this guy Guys, you aren't gonna get away with sexual harassment anymore! No is a complete sentence! Re: Getting fired as a joke It's bad bosses that fire you as a joke. If you get fired as a joke, just take it at face value and start looking for other employment! RE: My illness isn't taken seriously Why do schools and bosses assume you're lying when you call in sick? It's why COVID spread as much as it did. People went to work when they were supposed to be in quarantine!

[@tokyocheeto934]

I love waking up to a new r slash video

[@Runner656]

The sad thing about that whooping cough story is that it is preventable with a vaccine. Although that kid could have been unable to be vaccinated.

[@LunaSolarEclipse]

not fully preventable just very very very unlikely to happen

[@littlehoneybee7718]

omg I have Aetna insurance and they are the absolute WORST. They only let you try drugs from a list of their "preferred drugs". If you try and fail the "preferred drugs" you can try other drugs. But the kicker is they don't care if you have had treatments with those other drugs before, and they worked perfectly for you before. Aetna won't let you use those ones even if if works for you because they'd rather you try and fail a whole list of things first. You'd think they'd let you use the ones you've had before because it's guaranteed that it will work out instead of having you try other ones and possibly fail.

[@RedT...TheOriginal.NotANumber]

What country is that last story from? Whooping cough (aka pertussis) is easily prevented with standard immunizations. In the US, that's one of the vaccinations REQUIRED to be allowed to attend most schools. Either the vaccination isn't available, the mom CHOSE not to vaccinate (shame on her if that's the case!), or this child was one of the extremely rare cases who managed to get sick in spite of getting the vaccination.

[@VFKAdventureRabbit]

I *might've* had a *mild* case of whooping cough once and it was a miserable time. Coughing past the point of running out of air was terrifying and it was just gasping back in the air when the coughing subsided for the briefest moment. I wasn't officially diagnosed by a doc(visiting a doc when you're coughing everywhere felt ill-advised) but it was stronger and longer than the average cold by a few months, but I didn't pass out or suffer health emergencies on it so it wasn't as bad as it could've been; but any time your breathing is so impeded on is a scary time. Whooping cough sucks. Whatta way for your body to save itself: kill itself trying to cast out germs, just as body-stupid as allergic reactions in the kill-to-"save" department.

[@richewilson6394]

I sue the dealership for wrongful termination because of that, maybe a lawsuit stating it was an infringement on my civil rights. My freedom of choice.

[@seaherne]

One of the things with whooping cough is even after you recover, your lungs are still not ok. So changes in temperature like going outside will start a coughing fit. Apparently my teacher had massive issues with this and thought that I was trying to avoid going outside to play but it was actually just an after affect of the illness. People can be so dumb sometimes

[@thelistener626]

The ending of this video is the reason I like rslash so much more than other redit readers. It is because he actually goes through and helps explain things so us listeners understand things in the story.

[@benjaminmarshall195]

Had whopping cough as a kid and it was awful. First you have all the symptoms of a cold and then you can't stop coughing or throwing up because of the coughing, which also leads to major headaches. Then cos you're vomiting you get hungry but can't eat cos you're too busy coughing. All this lasts like 2 months at least. Give or take

[@Cynararose]

You want to hear something insane, I had whopping cough (so did 4 of my friends, 1 brought it to the rest of us), I didn’t miss a single day of school. Why my doctors wouldn’t write a note! This was in 00 or 01, I got part days twice to see a doctor. That’s it. Doctor even refused to say what it was right away because of how serious it was, we lived in a small town. Yeah no one was happy when I finally went to a pulmonologist out of town because I got it the worse and told everyone what it was.

[@sgs7805]

WHOOPING COUGH IS DEADLY. My now 10 year old got it at only 2 1/2 months, the doctors said she would have died had I not breastfed her, they made me get the tdap shot before leaving the hospital after giving birth to her because there were so many outbreaks back then. Out of my 4 kids, she's the ONLY one who would breastfeed, all of my others rejected it and needed formula. I basically didn't sleep for 3 months because she would turn PURPLE from choking. I had to hold her upright at all times and when she would cough I had to rub her chest and back at the same time to help her get the gunk up and be able to take a breath again. It was the absolute scariest time of my life.

[@lightfurya2087]

Some facts about the last story. Whooping cough is fatal for babies, so while op wouldn’t die, if any of their classmates had baby brothers or sisters and op spread the cough, those babies could die. That lady is not just stupid, her actions could’ve put others in grave danger.

[@kingko55]

I had whooping cough when I was 18, so luckily I was an adult when it happened. But it was one of the worst things ever. Constantly coughing, gasping for air, sore throat, headache and I coughed so much I would throw up too. I would never want anyone to go through that ever.

[@FroggyFina]

To add to the whooping cough story, I didn't have it, but simply just being sick about a week or two ago, I was awake at night having a coughing fit. I was coughing so much that I was contemplating texting my dad to take me to the hospital because I felt if I tried to go back to sleep (if I could) I'd die from not breathing. Then later the next evening, I had a coughing fit so much that I threw up, I didn't even feel nauseaus. So yeah, coughing so much to where you can't get air in, it really sucks, it really really sucks. Take sickness seriously. Rather have a student live through an illness and come back eventually (even if they're a little behind) than a dead student.

[@quintonmayzes3591]

when I was younger i had whooping cough, and I had to go to the ER because I passed out and was having trouble breathing. My mom was really young when she had me so she didn't know what to do. Doctors managed to help me but all I remember from that night is coughing, and then lights out. When I was in the ambulance I stopped breathing because I was coughing so hard. Im lucky to be alive if I am completely honest. That women does no deserve to be working in schools at all, I normally don't reply but whooping cough is seriously no joke.

[@chikncordonbleu]

I've had whopping cough as an adult. They don't call it the 100 day cough for no reason. Coughing until I'd pass out, yes. Coughing until I vomited in myself, yes. Coughing until you can do nothing but cough, yes.

[@LegendaryStory]

I went to school with someone who had had whooping cough - more than once, and she was miserable, it took an even longer time for her voice to fully recover.

[@kakitenshiblog]

As someone who has had whooping cough when they were young, it is not fun. Luckily me and my sister didn't have it for as long as OP but I couldn't sleep for days because I would wake up having a hard time breathing. My sister almost drowned because she didn't realize she had it and went swimming. That admin should be fired for thinking that it wasn't that serious.

[@stoopingfalcon891]

That clip with the baby brought instant tears to my eyes. Poor little soul.

[@jimmon89]

In response to 13:50 I had a friend(34m) catch whooping cough, he was out of work(bartender) for 4 or 5 months. On not 1, but 2 separate occasions burst blood vessels in both of his eyes from the violent coughing fits. The pictures he took were about the most metal looking selfies i have ever seen!