Joe Louis vs Rocky Marciono

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rsmorodinov

rsmorodinov

13 жыл бұрын

Рокки Марчиано против Джо Луиса, 26 октября 1951 г., 1-5, 7 и 8-ой раунды, победа Марчиано в 8-ом раунде (TKO)

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@paulgraham6316
@paulgraham6316 Жыл бұрын
I've seen Ali hurt and back away from a fight, and Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson...you name them. But not once have I ever seen Marciano hurt or back down. He was almost a freak of nature, as if pain and yielding were nothing to him. An absolutely incredible athlete.
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
If he had fought a prime Louis, believe me you would have seen him back down.
@rudycantarini4649
@rudycantarini4649 9 ай бұрын
@@Pedro_Le_Chef knocked out by Schmeling. Decked by many fighters. He was great but he went on his butt from many a journeyman. Louis fought Marciano when he was old. He was knocked out at 23. Knocked out at 38. He avenged his loss but was still ko'ed. Marciano was decked 2X. Would've been a great fight but no one here could predict the outcome.
@johnreidy2804
@johnreidy2804 8 ай бұрын
@@Pedro_Le_Chef I don't think Rocky would have lost to a prime Joe Louis friend. I think he would have won a much closer fight.
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 8 ай бұрын
@@johnreidy2804 Marciano was a bit better than a 38 year old Walcott and 33 year old Charles. Louis was leagues above that in power, speed and athleticism. Prime Louis is a beast that Rocky has never faced before. It goes about as long as the second Godoy match.
@johnreidy2804
@johnreidy2804 8 ай бұрын
@@Pedro_Le_Chef Joe Louis lost to Ezzard Charles friend. And Louis fought Jersey Joe twice and while he beat him one was a 15-round decision. the other he won by KO in the 11th round. You underestimate Marciano's ability to keep going forward regardless of the onslaught of punches coming his way. I think you are mistaken friend doing what many have done and regretted, underestimating Marciano's power, will and stamina. I think Joe Louis was a great HW. I rank him in the top 10 of all time. But I rank Rocky ahead of him. As the great Ali once said about Marciano, I don't know if I could have beaten that man."
@johnwhitworth2090
@johnwhitworth2090 2 жыл бұрын
Rocky was undeterred. Punches didn't phase him. Even the two times he touched the canvas in his career via Walcott and Moore were flash knock-downs. He bounced right back to his feet and continued to fight. He was a relentless brawler with unparalleled stamina. He was a great champion with an unrelenting will to win as well as a gentleman who respected his opponents. A class act in and out of the ring. There'll never be another like him. RIP Champ.
@paulgraham6316
@paulgraham6316 11 ай бұрын
A lot of Rocky's opponents describe how their arms were sore for weeks after a bout with him. Rocky would repeatedly hammer an opponent's arms to kill their efficiency. He was, for me, the ultimate fighting machine.
@thomasbuchanan7451
@thomasbuchanan7451 10 жыл бұрын
If Rocky was fighting today, it would probably be as a cruiser weight. He weighed less and had a shorter reach than almost all of his opponents. He fought both skilled boxers (LaStarza and Charles) and slugging heavy hitters (Layne, Mathews, and Moore). He experienced being cut, floored, and behind on points...and yet always found a way to win. He was always in great shape, had a huge desire to win, and could take hard punches.....and could hit hard....49-0, 43 kayos. He would never take a dive or quit in his corner or clown around...he was there to win. I don't know if he was the greatest, but he was a fine fighter.
@Joe-gu6oe
@Joe-gu6oe 4 жыл бұрын
Well said. Thank you. I am appreciative of film preservation.
@dirtyjew1974
@dirtyjew1974 2 жыл бұрын
I rank him in the top 3 all time
@scotttyson8661
@scotttyson8661 2 жыл бұрын
If he was fighting today, he'd probably be 230lbs
@scarletmacaw
@scarletmacaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@scotttyson8661 not true, his frame was way too small to carry anymore than 200 lbs without becoming morbidly obese.
@seekingwarrior17
@seekingwarrior17 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get how he can't be number one . The numbers speak for him, undefeated against the odds with his lower weight and highest ko ratio. To me he is the best ever
@623professormartino
@623professormartino 6 жыл бұрын
I have tremendous respect for Joe, but he was beaten in this fight. I stay away from speculation and what "if." Joe was 37 and past his ideal physical age. He was heavier than Rocky and had a nine inch reach advantage. Joe was a smart boxer and quickly figured out his opponents. Rocky had his work cut out for him. It would have been interesting to see these two both in their prime, but Joe had a lot of experience to also assist him. Two great fighters fought this day and Marciano came out the victor that day, despite Joe being the favorite.
@JamesBondRambo
@JamesBondRambo 9 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis was the most powerful and fastest punching heavyweight boxer in ring history. His great hand speed, especially in combination, was awesome to behold. He had a powerful jab, threw every punch perfectly and with wasteless accuracy. His right cross, thrown short and straight, was sheer dynamite. The "Brown Bomber" never ducked anyone as his record 25 title defenses attests to. Of those 25 successful defenses, 21 were won by knockout, 17 of those were ten counts! 5 in the first round! He also knocked out six men who held the Heavyweight Championship of the World. From 1934 to 1949, when he first retired as champion, his record was 60-1 with 51 knockouts. He held the Heavyweight Championship for a record of nearly 12 years.
@dirtyjew1974
@dirtyjew1974 2 жыл бұрын
Louis wasn't the fastest but he was the most technically proficient and most balanced! By textbook standards he was perfect!
@scotttyson8661
@scotttyson8661 2 жыл бұрын
Ali was the fastest by far
@JoseMurillo-ki6yx
@JoseMurillo-ki6yx 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you! By far ,Joe Louis was the very best.
@oakenbeard8884
@oakenbeard8884 2 жыл бұрын
One of the greats.
@dirtyjew1974
@dirtyjew1974 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the sharpest and most accurate puncher and with perfect and clinical technique but not the fastest nor hardest punching however it's Hard to dispute his record, especially as a champion! It still stands today after all these years!
@vincentfisher1603
@vincentfisher1603 9 жыл бұрын
As for Louis taking a dive.... If I was looking to quit I wouldn't have dropped my arms and allowed a notorious thumper to punch me on the jaw. An excellent way to end up in the hospital. Louis was stunned by a left hook, dropped his hands and was nailed by a powerful right. Sugar Ray Robinson wrote in a book that he was at the fight and immediately ran to the ring to help his hurt old friend. There has never been any accusations, except by Christopher Miller and other Marciano haters, that Louis took a dive. When one examines today's welterweight ranking one finds that this division has been, basically, controlled by smaller men (Mayweather, Pacquio, Marquez, and Guerrero), who have built up their bodies to compete at this weight. Marciano did the exact opposite. He was a legitimate heavyweight who believed in intense/extreme endurance training. He was a laborer during his adult life so his strength came from hard living, never graduated from high school, if I remember correctly, so becoming a CEO of a corporation was not in his future. He chose boxing to escape poverty and a dead end life. I can only assume his fighting intensity derived from.
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Louis didn't take a dive, he was too noble for that. He was just too old to fight Rocky by that point. He was out of prime for 9 years in 1951.
@armandop9082
@armandop9082 Жыл бұрын
People forget if Marciano fought today he'd have all the advantages of modern training and he'd be even more great, pretty amazing to think about.
@chairlesnicol672
@chairlesnicol672 9 ай бұрын
ARMANDOP AYa! If the Wright brothers had the advantage of current technology from 1903 they couda made it to the moon! But unfortunately they had to settle for different spot in the history books! Lol!
@dape8993
@dape8993 6 жыл бұрын
Marciano must have been incredibly strong for a man his size. He gave away 20 pounds and still manhandled Louis physically. Rocky had a simple plan: When Louis threw that long jab, Rocky would step inside, put his head on Joe's chest, and pound away. Louis needed space to throw his punches, Rocky didn't give him any. Joe was not nimble at this point; he could not stick and move, plus Louis did not do a good job of tying Rocky up. Joe needed to force Marciano's head down and separate his arms--he didn't do that and paid for it. Joe let Rocky put too much pressure on him.
@albanyorganics3030
@albanyorganics3030 2 жыл бұрын
Rocky threw the overhand right after the Louis jab or the leaping left, keeping Joe from following up with the right cross and stopping him from landing combinations, meanwhile taking hits right and left from the crowding Marciano. Unable to score anything but jabs the accumulation of punches wears down Louis for the middle round KO. Prime Louis has the same set of problems with the relentlessly advancing Rock. KO 12th round.
@rattlerar1575
@rattlerar1575 8 жыл бұрын
I for one miss the days when champions were classy.
@TheJer1963
@TheJer1963 8 жыл бұрын
+rattler AR15 And Marciano was very smart with his money. He didn't just go out and spend it. It would be hard to find a better boxer that took care of his money. Fighters today could learn a lesson from him.
@jiggyhendicks1191
@jiggyhendicks1191 7 жыл бұрын
After this fight Rocky went back to his locker and cried like a baby. Joe Louis was his hero.
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Rocky knew that Louis did not belong in the ring at that age. There was no pride in beating a shell of an already retired champion.
@Seguris
@Seguris 11 жыл бұрын
Marciano's fighting style wasn't perfection like Louis's, the fight in Marciano is what made him undefeated.
@williamcalderon3146
@williamcalderon3146 10 жыл бұрын
Rocky Marciano sin duda uno de los mejores.
@dirtyjew1974
@dirtyjew1974 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt at all!
@spec1ua
@spec1ua 6 жыл бұрын
отличный бой!!!
@KapitanDragen
@KapitanDragen 2 жыл бұрын
один из лучших боев,что я видел
@ferrantepallas
@ferrantepallas 6 жыл бұрын
Two great champions, each great in different ways. Marciano was relatively short, light, with a very short reach and quite awkward in terms of conventional boxing skills. To compete at that level he had to be in incredibly superb condition and he had to maximize his power, which he did.
@MrBigden37
@MrBigden37 10 жыл бұрын
Marciano fought what was there. Ezzard Charles and Walcott were no jokes. Look at his fights, always went hay-makers as long as he needed to go. Heavy power in both hands, extreme stamina, giant heart, and did what he needed to do when he needed it. Split nose, a bloody pulp and guess what he was there. Unless you knocked him out outright, or ran he'd be yours. Lewis never fought anyone like Marciano.
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Louis fought against Rocky-like fighters 5 times, 4 of those ending in knockouts. He fought: Paulino Uzcudun Tony Galento Nathan Mann Arturo Godoy x2 All these guys were rated in the top 10 fighters of the year when Louis beat them. Conversely, Rocky never once fought a guy like Louis, a big heavyweight who had incredible power and youth. The best guys Rocky fought were over the hill, not big punchers and they still gave him his toughest fights. Prime Louis is simply a different animal. Rocky is going to come into him to slug it out and he's going to get outpunched, countered and battered before being knocked out. He doesn't have a single advantage over a 25 year old Joe Louis.
@ronaldfilkins6448
@ronaldfilkins6448 2 жыл бұрын
Its doesnt matter what color the dog is in the fight, its how much fight is in the in the dog that counts. Same goes with man.
@TheParabola1977
@TheParabola1977 10 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis was a hundred years old when he fought ROCKY MARCIANO ROCKY MARCIANO.. lol... love that movie.
@carlosdavila2370
@carlosdavila2370 10 жыл бұрын
That's their one, That's their one.
@alexanderanthony
@alexanderanthony 10 жыл бұрын
Hahahaahaha I always remember that when I see Marciano... That was fabulous...
@cablino
@cablino 9 жыл бұрын
It's 75, not 100. Good movie though.
@skotkrieg
@skotkrieg 8 жыл бұрын
***** He badder than Clay, he badder than... who's that new boy? Mike Tyson Mike Tyson, look like a bulldog! He badder than him too!
@user-bs7we3js9v
@user-bs7we3js9v 5 жыл бұрын
Рокки Марчиано офигенный панчер,только вчера узнал об этом,красавчик на ринге👍👍👍👍👍😎
@boxecon6603
@boxecon6603 9 жыл бұрын
ROCKYYYY MARCIANOOOOO MARCIANOOOO
@tycobb5452
@tycobb5452 6 жыл бұрын
Rocky Marciano hell,yeah.
@user-qx9uo1cw9z
@user-qx9uo1cw9z 9 ай бұрын
You can say Joe was past his prime, but he was still Joe with all the physical advantages.
@Denner771
@Denner771 5 жыл бұрын
Rocky went easily to 15 rounds, throwing bombs with both hands all the way.. He was tougher than hell and anyone who fought him was never the same again... I've never witnessed any heavyweight with his stamina and punch output. No wonder nobody beat him. He's the type who would find a way to win. Ali himself stated he didn't know if he could beat him, Ali has never said that about any boxer and I'd take his opinion over any armchair youtube boxing expert.
@_DEJA_VU
@_DEJA_VU 2 жыл бұрын
Он говорил о Тайсоне,что если бы Майк попал в него,то он бы лёг)Безусловно,эти бойцы уважают друг друга и относятся с большой любовью.Тайсон ответил,что ни за что бы не попал в Али!))
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 2 жыл бұрын
I will say this; Rocky was one tough SOB. He had the relentless style that would have given Ali trouble. That said, I couldn’t imagine Ali not out pointing or stopping Rocky on cuts while both were in their primes. But, as Ali said, who knows? It would have been a helluva battle.
@oldsensei8350
@oldsensei8350 2 жыл бұрын
@@vgr112261 you make several great points..well said
@Wiggi147
@Wiggi147 Жыл бұрын
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@Brawling_Style
@Brawling_Style Жыл бұрын
Well marciano was ambidextrous meaning he could complete tasks with both hands writing etc he wasn't left nor right handed both hands the exact same so even marcianos jab was a wrecking ball lol.
@muhammadjijeli1865
@muhammadjijeli1865 10 ай бұрын
2 boxing legends a magnificent fight they are magnificent
@strangedays871
@strangedays871 9 жыл бұрын
Marciano was tough as hell. Even a young Louis would have had trouble with him because you could have hit Marciano over the head with a baseball bat and the guy would have kept coming forward.
@georgemendes6844
@georgemendes6844 9 жыл бұрын
Strange Days True. Marciano had the heart of a lion. But i think it would be difficult for him to keep coming foward against a Liston or a Foreman.
@oldsensei8350
@oldsensei8350 2 жыл бұрын
Good point
@oldsensei8350
@oldsensei8350 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgemendes6844 maybe your right. but he may have worn them out and he hit just as hard as them
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Rocky got dropped by light heavies. He was iron chinned but Louis destroyed iron chinned fighters all the same. He just hits too hard for someone to try and slug it out with him. He'd give Louis a good fight but then would get TKOd.
@stevo728822
@stevo728822 7 жыл бұрын
Good show by Louis considering his age.
@turnerthemanc
@turnerthemanc Жыл бұрын
Rocky must have had the hardest jaw of all time. He would barely make cruiser weight today and "lesser mortals" wouldnt have survived. it was almost like he was invented by Marvel
@jonnyrotten9676
@jonnyrotten9676 11 ай бұрын
shame the plane crash decapitated him
@STEPHENBARRETT136
@STEPHENBARRETT136 2 жыл бұрын
Tyson was modeled after rock. This is why some shortguy can fight good.
@razortrue
@razortrue 10 жыл бұрын
Marciano....THE BEST!!!!!
@sskgrs
@sskgrs 9 жыл бұрын
yes, the best white american boxer in history.
@tycobb5452
@tycobb5452 6 жыл бұрын
Razor yes.
@tycobb5452
@tycobb5452 6 жыл бұрын
sskgrs the best boxer,PERIOD.!
@dominickmilano4858
@dominickmilano4858 2 жыл бұрын
@@sskgrs Rocky was the Best period!!!
@oldsensei8350
@oldsensei8350 2 жыл бұрын
@@sskgrs alot of great white boxers over the years
@francistervil4057
@francistervil4057 7 жыл бұрын
Marciano was 28 years old and Joe Louis was 37 years old. I don't see this win as a clean victory. More like father time caught Joe. Marciano was a great fighter, but that win to me doesn't me that Marciano was better than Joe. Marciano retired at 32 years old, when Joe continued to fight until the age of 37. If Marciano had fought till the age of 37 would he still be undefeated????
@Watch272
@Watch272 8 жыл бұрын
Great fight.
@oldtimedrumcorps
@oldtimedrumcorps 8 жыл бұрын
How ya fixed for blades? Gillette Blueblades
@stevenyourke7901
@stevenyourke7901 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always sad to watch great athletes get older and lose their magical powers. It’s inevitable but painful to see. In their prime, they’re like demigods, they do things that seem to transcend human nature. Then they start to fade and they’re revealed as mere mortals. Like the rest of us. Marciano was the exception to the rule, he retired undefeated and we never saw him lose his magical powers.
@harryking9674
@harryking9674 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t care who Marciano fought today he would find away to beat you down he had heart and big power he could take a great punch don’t forget that
@brandnew9834
@brandnew9834 3 жыл бұрын
Joe was too old here, he shouldn’t have been fighting still. Marciano actually cried in the locker room after this fight. Joe Louis was his hero.
@williesmall3855
@williesmall3855 8 жыл бұрын
joe louis was the best fighter pound for pound of all time !!!!!period!!!!!
@gatormark
@gatormark 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Robinson
@abd-al-haqal-haqiqi6981
@abd-al-haqal-haqiqi6981 7 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis is second on the list the first is Sugar Ray Robinson
@petermanson3475
@petermanson3475 7 жыл бұрын
Always amazed at how many people make this bogus claim, especially while watching Rocky Marciano go in at 5'10 184 knock the crap out of a 6'1" 213lb fighter. Rocky Marciano was an undersized heavyweight, yet retired as the only undefeated heavyweight, with the highest knockout percentage of any heavyweight with a minimum of 30 fights, and has the hardest recorded punch in history.
@tycobb5452
@tycobb5452 6 жыл бұрын
Willie Small sorry,that would be rocky marciano.louis was favored to win,and rocky killed him.
@gregman1246
@gregman1246 6 жыл бұрын
Yes !!!
@jimmyd662011
@jimmyd662011 10 жыл бұрын
Its hard to compare champions of different eras they all legends
@parkerbohnn
@parkerbohnn 2 жыл бұрын
One thing for sure Sonny Liston would have mopped the floor from pillar to post with Rocky. Rocky would have never gotten inside his jab and Sonny would have rearranged his face.
@johnreidy2804
@johnreidy2804 8 ай бұрын
@@parkerbohnn Not true friend. Rocky had a style where he lowered his upper body and get inside that way. It would have worked well vs. Liston who was too stiff to move out of the way
@tycobb5452
@tycobb5452 6 жыл бұрын
one of rockys' best bouts!
@Triaxleworldhq
@Triaxleworldhq 11 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis needed this fight bad and more specifically he needed the paycheck from this fight to pay off some of his tax debts and other obligations.Rocky didn't have to fight Louis or need to but he knew the situation Joe was in so he agreed to the fight.If you see any interviews about it from Joe he was very grateful and never said he thought Rocky took advantage of him because he was older.
@Sub___Zero
@Sub___Zero 8 жыл бұрын
Clarence: You must be outta your God-damned mind! Joe Louis the greatest boxer who ever lived. I'll be with you boys in a minute. He was badder than Cassius Clay, he was better than Sugar Ray, he was badder than - who's that new boy? Mike Tyson! Look like a bull dog! He was badder than him too! He'd whip Mike Tyson's ass, he'd whip all their asses! Saul: What about *Rocky Marciano*? Clarence: Oh, there they go! There they go! Every time I start talking about boxing, a white man gotta pull Rocky Marciano outta their ass! That's they one! That's they one! Rocky Marciano! Rocky Marciano! Lemme tell you something once and for all! Rocky Marciano was good, but compared to Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano ain't shit! Saul: He beat Joe Louis's ass! Morris: That's right, he did whip Joe Louis's ass! Clarence: *Joe Louis was seventy-five years old* when he fought! Morris: I don't know how old he was, but he got his ass whooped. Clarence: Joe Louis had come out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano! The man was seventy-six years old! Joe Louis always lied about his age! He lied about his age all the time! One time, Frank Sinatra came in here, and sat in this chair. I say, "Frank, you hang out with Joe Louis. Just between me and you, how old is Joe Louis?" Know what Frank told me? He said "Hey, Joe Louis is a hundred thirty-seven years old." A hundred and thirty-seven years old! Sweets: Oh, man, you ain't never meet no Frank Sinatra. Clarence: F*CK YOU! F*CK YOU! AND F*CK YOU! Who's next?
@HardcoreGamerish
@HardcoreGamerish 8 жыл бұрын
+SUB ZERO LIN KUEI LMAO, I really want to know how Eddie Murphy came up with this.
@ray1love1
@ray1love1 8 жыл бұрын
thats right rocky marciano fights where all bought
@slevinkalebra5468
@slevinkalebra5468 7 жыл бұрын
you're full of crap.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 2 жыл бұрын
Joe in his prime had incredibly fast hands and combinations. never foot speed. at 37 he had to think first. but he had incredible courage and went out on his shield. it's a disgrace what the IRS/guv did to him. ah the fight "game".....
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Louis had surprisingly fast feet, he just didn't needlessly move fast to conserve energy. Check out the second Godoy fight to see how quickly he backs away and hits Godoy as he is coming in.
@MrHeadshot1982
@MrHeadshot1982 7 жыл бұрын
Rocky Marciono was the best.
@lawrencewolf8453
@lawrencewolf8453 3 жыл бұрын
Two great 👍 Chapions
@CarlosLima-oe7wn
@CarlosLima-oe7wn 9 ай бұрын
Realmente podemos dizer que a década de 50, com Marciano e depois Clay, marcou a diferença, surgindo aí o boxe como o conhecemos. Enaltecendo, é claro, a Joe Louis, que soube dignificar o esporte.
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
O Rocky nunca mudou o desporto de forma alguma. Ele não tinha técnicas avançadas ou conhecimentos que mudassem a forma como os lutadores lutavam. Era muito duro e resistente, mas não era avançado de forma alguma.
@billthestinker
@billthestinker 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad to watch an old slow Louis become a punching bag for Marciano
@clausdrejer1037
@clausdrejer1037 7 жыл бұрын
Whauu two good fighters. I love to watch these old timers fight. I will give my left arm to watch a Joe Louis Vs. Jack Dempsey fight - both in there prime of course.
@EQOAnostalgia
@EQOAnostalgia 8 жыл бұрын
"Rocky Marciana, Rocky Marciana! He beat Joe Louis' ass"
@stevenashe8900
@stevenashe8900 2 жыл бұрын
Louis wasn’t just 37, he was a very old 37. Just look at his fights even 5 years earlier and it’s a huge difference. 10 years is even a bigger difference. Rocky wins here sheerly on youth, far better conditioning, and a steeply declined Louis. A well conditioned Joe of 1940 knocks out Marciano almost every time.
@rudycantarini4649
@rudycantarini4649 2 жыл бұрын
Louis was knocked out by Schmeling in the 12th round of their first fight. He would never have withstood the withering assault of Marciano. Every great technical fighter( Louis, Charles, Walcott, Lastarza, Moore) all thought he was easy to beat until he pulverized them.
@stevenashe8900
@stevenashe8900 2 жыл бұрын
@@rudycantarini4649 "Never withstood..."? Come on. Marciano went life and death with two OLD light heavyweights (Charles and Moore) and one old heavyweight (Walcott). Schmeling was a very skilled counter puncher who just had a great night. I can't imagine Rocky boring thru the fast and powerful hands of a young, 200 lb Louis. Even in this fight a greatly diminished and old Louis was competitive, winning a few rounds before losing his legs in the 6th or 7th round. But I do agree Louis would need to be in tip-top ship as he usually was anyway.
@rudycantarini4649
@rudycantarini4649 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenashe8900 Walcott and Charles fought 3 15 round fights in 15 months. You think you can do that. I know on my best day I was good for 3 rounds. So Schmeling was a counterpuncher. He didn't have the punch of Marciano, stamina. Btw Foreman won at 45 Klitschkos Lewis Wilder Fury all in their 30s. Your old age for Moore is another joke. He was 6 yrs older than Marciano. Fighters in those days were fighting 15 rounders. Charles was 33. LaStarza Matthews Layne Vingo Savold Lowry all bums too I suppose. You guys just have to denigrate a 49-0 record. He annihilated his competition, especially the second time he fought them. We all have opinions.
@stevenashe8900
@stevenashe8900 2 жыл бұрын
@@rudycantarini4649 I don't think any boxing expert would ever pick Marciano to overwhelm a prime Louis, never mind win. Marciano never faced anyone close in size and caliber to Louis. I just don't see how Marciano gets to Louis without being knocked out himself first. MAYBE if he gets Louis into the very late rounds and Louis tires, he has a chance.
@Wolverineman880
@Wolverineman880 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenashe8900 " Marciano never faced anyone close in size and caliber to Louis." Jersey Joe Walcott was very close to the size and caliber of Louis.
@wkLeoTrooper
@wkLeoTrooper 12 жыл бұрын
Very good upload.
@tyronea5211
@tyronea5211 11 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@shyhand1
@shyhand1 9 ай бұрын
I've watched every Rocky fight they had.. He fought a bunch of over the hill once were great Nobody's... Rocky refused to go down a belt to fight Floyd Patterson.. He went down a belt to fight Ezra Charles.. Rocky went and watched the Floyd Patterson.. Joel Maxim fight and decided to dodge Patterson, for at least a year and then retire. Rocky was scared of Floyd Patterson
@ssminojohnson
@ssminojohnson 8 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis was 137 years old
@iblamelance5350
@iblamelance5350 6 жыл бұрын
38 years old..
@tycobb5452
@tycobb5452 6 жыл бұрын
thessminojohnson louis was actually only 37.that's it.joe was still an effective fighter.
@johncerminaro1067
@johncerminaro1067 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis was still THE champion boxer/puncher of heavyweights and expected to win by many fans & experts...
@teachone2261
@teachone2261 6 жыл бұрын
yea same old hater weak argument ROCK WAS OLD TOO WHEN HE STARTED AT age 25 . .and hello ??
@sheruffa6032
@sheruffa6032 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know that it is normal for a boxer in his career to meet at least a dozen or so inadequate -old boxers? A boxer is not judged for inadequate or old boxers, but a boxer is judged overall, for those 5-10 strong boxers he has met and beaten,and for those 4 or 5 wars that have remained with the public! were other times you can't expect boxers back then to move as fast and explosive as Tyson, you know? Also because the preparation was set on the resistance not on the explosiveness!
@luisalfredoflores6961
@luisalfredoflores6961 8 жыл бұрын
Como Rocky Marciano no hay mas nadie ni habra de que le igualaron el record se puede creer con tanta artimaña que hay en el boxeo, pero el que lo igualo no se ha parado a pelear en el ring ni un rounds en todas sus peleas
@alittlepeaceandkarma
@alittlepeaceandkarma 6 жыл бұрын
Did Cus Demato get the inspiration for his peek a boo style from Rocky?
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
No, Jack Dempsey.
@2READYCRETE
@2READYCRETE 11 жыл бұрын
@freedom 467, Truth of the Matter is, Frazier although a Great fighter , only carried a Devestating Left hook and had no power in his right hand. Joe Frazier was a converted Southpaw. Frazier wouldn't have beaten Walcott who had power in both hands. Frazier was dropped twice in the fourth round against Oscar Bonevena in '68 at the Garden and was within one more knockdown of being knocked out. Bonevena wasn't as good as Marciano or Charles.
@charliesalzillio8524
@charliesalzillio8524 2 жыл бұрын
Makes one wonder how did Ali not knock out Fraiser? Knowing all the punches he landed
@albanyorganics3030
@albanyorganics3030 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. Frazier had 1 great fight in his career in Ali-Frazier 1. He rose to the occasion, and was never the same after. Marciano did it over and over again. And didn't just win but destroyed his opponents.
@albanyorganics3030
@albanyorganics3030 2 жыл бұрын
@@charliesalzillio8524 Foreman knocked Frazier down a dozen times in both fights but he kept getting up until the ref called it. Ali didn't have KO power unless you walked into his anchor punch.
@charliesalzillio8524
@charliesalzillio8524 2 жыл бұрын
@@albanyorganics3030 you mean Ancor with Liston
@ah93704
@ah93704 12 жыл бұрын
Actually, Louis himself said he wanst sure if he could have defeated Marciano. He said he hated being crowded, and Marciano was great at crowding an opponent!
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Louis might have disliked being crowded but he dealt with crowding fighters excellently. He fought them 5 times before Rocky, and he knocked them all out brutally. Watch the second Godoy fight specifically to see how well Louis dealt with that kind of fighter.
@allenkeen1
@allenkeen1 8 жыл бұрын
I agree but still it would have been a tough fight that would have gone either way. Joe Louis I s still an American hero that the IRS screwed over!
@edhackett9200
@edhackett9200 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you yes he would
@rinosquarzoni9438
@rinosquarzoni9438 8 жыл бұрын
Marciano E stato senza dubbio il migliore di tutti. Insuperabile.
@BlurkSneets
@BlurkSneets 10 жыл бұрын
Marciono?
@jettz8571
@jettz8571 9 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis is probably the most important Heavyweight of all times. But he still said years next this fight that also at his prime he wouldn't know how to fight against Rocky. He didnt know how to fight against an infighter.
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
"He didnt know how to fight against an infighter" Joe Louis is probably one of the best infighters in the heavyweight division. He knocked out fighters who fought like Rocky five times: Paulino Uzcudun Tony Galento Nathan Mann Arturo Godoy x2 Louis knew how to deal with a fighter like Rocky better than Rocky knew how to deal with a fighter like Louis. He is a complete shell of himself in this fight and he still lasted 8 rounds against prime Rocky and outboxed him for a few rounds. Even with his speed, reflexes, power and combinations long gone.
@AngryScotProductions
@AngryScotProductions 11 жыл бұрын
who is rocky morciono?; D
@petersburgtrash
@petersburgtrash 11 жыл бұрын
Best fighter too put on the gloves
@user-pf2lg1so5t
@user-pf2lg1so5t 7 жыл бұрын
просто охуеть , два супер боксера
@user-ku9gs9iu7h
@user-ku9gs9iu7h Жыл бұрын
РОККИ СУПЕР
@fernandopintos1718
@fernandopintos1718 2 жыл бұрын
¡Qué tortazo! ¿Eh? ¡Y cómo lo desparramó fuera del ring! JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE JE ...
@yanholing
@yanholing 11 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how the video's narrator describes Louis at 30:00 as being heavier than he used to be. Louis is still just about big enough to be a heavyweight today, but if you look at him during the fight, weighing 212, he looks skinny compared to today's boxers. Rocky by contrast looks deceptively powerful, though much too small. He'll probably still knock a bunch of people out.
@oldsensei8350
@oldsensei8350 2 жыл бұрын
Big muscles and weight are often not a fight factor at this level
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Louis was 202 lbs in his previous fight and he ballooned up to 214 lbs to fight Rocky in a month I don't think it was a wise decision. His speed was already gone, adding extra weight that fast did him no favors.
@angrygrizzly7125
@angrygrizzly7125 6 жыл бұрын
Marciano=🐐🇮🇹😎
@johnpaulkane6153
@johnpaulkane6153 Жыл бұрын
Marciano is the goat undefeated
@jimcameron4672
@jimcameron4672 2 жыл бұрын
Joe should have been enjoying his retirement in financial security instead of having to fight
@antonioamanciooliveira2986
@antonioamanciooliveira2986 Жыл бұрын
Joe Louis em momento fez jus a fama, não lutou pra ganha só mostrou resistência. Não ameaçou Rocky Marciano
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Naquela idade não podia fazer muito mais
@vincentfisher1603
@vincentfisher1603 9 жыл бұрын
This bout shows, at least to me, that if Liston had been world rated at the time Marciano was champ that Liston could have won. Joe was around 38 years old but looked more like 50 when he fought Marciano. Liston was a well trained boxer, standing about 1" or 1.5" shorter than Louis but had an 84" reach. Marciano admitted he had to eat Louis's jabs in order to get inside. A fresher, younger Liston would had been a tough nut to crack because of his excellent jab and reach advantage. Marciano's only chance of winning was to slide under Liston's jab and keep the fighting on the inside where his short arms would give Rocky the advantage. Both Liston and Marciano were powerful guys so pure strength would not be the deciding factor. I don't see Liston pushing Rocky aside like Foreman did with Frazier. I can't help but think that Liston would had busted up Marciano's face really bad. Liston was knocked out cold by Leotis Martin who was a known puncher but was only 6' tall and weighed less than 200 lbs. But this happened (1969) when Liston was at the tail end of his life. Liston also quit in his bouts against Ali because he couldn't hit Ali. He and Marciano would be doing a lot of hitting so I don't imagine Liston quitting in this bout.
@DrumsTenorsax
@DrumsTenorsax 9 жыл бұрын
Agree, Liston's jab would have cut Rocky up so bad that the fight would have been stopped.
@vinmed4707
@vinmed4707 5 жыл бұрын
Vincent Fisher I feel sorry for liston I know we make our own bed but when ever I saw liston I just saw that some where he had a soft side the public made him out to b be the bad champ I always liked liston but I think when you pick mob guys as friends that's what killed him he made a deal with the devil in jail very sad and the name was Frankie carbo they did time together and carbo liked liston I really think he could of beat Ali but when your doin unhealthy things and a gun pointed at you very sad
@albanyorganics3030
@albanyorganics3030 2 жыл бұрын
Marciano superior conditioning and relentless aggressiveness wins any fight beyond 12 rounds. Short arm reach is an advantage for inside fighting. Listons power offset by Marciano sidewinding crouch.
@ojodeped
@ojodeped 12 жыл бұрын
hey thanks
@BottleBri
@BottleBri Жыл бұрын
Incredible how the ref just walked away when Louis, an amazing ex heavyweight legend, went through the ropes. ? Just walked away.
@wsbill14224
@wsbill14224 12 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with anything you said. It just seems to me Louis and Marciano were very close in overall talent, with Joe being bigger, stronger, and older. I don't think Rocky could get inside on Joe without paying the price if Joe was the same age. As for crowding an opponent, Joe is well-known for the same thing. Great fighters have many of the same tendencies, don't they?
@ippomakunouchi9634
@ippomakunouchi9634 11 жыл бұрын
joe louis had to pay off his debt to the IRS thats why he kept fighting long after his prime he was washed up and had to fight for a pay check i think this fight wouldve been alot different if he was in his prime
@MrItaliano1900
@MrItaliano1900 9 жыл бұрын
THE BEST OF ALL TIME, ITALIAN SCHOOL
@boxecon6603
@boxecon6603 9 жыл бұрын
YEAH!
@georgemendes6844
@georgemendes6844 9 жыл бұрын
***** "THE BEST OF ALL TIME" lol ITALIAN SCHOOL = piece of shit.... lol
@boxecon6603
@boxecon6603 8 жыл бұрын
Joe Louis>Rocky Marciano LMAO
@Human-jz8ee
@Human-jz8ee 7 жыл бұрын
i can really see how boxing has evolved
@AntOfWar
@AntOfWar 7 жыл бұрын
Jabbing Jack what did he do?
@AntOfWar
@AntOfWar 7 жыл бұрын
Jabbing Jack yeesh all I did was scroll down and I already see his comments
@sharkey-rx3bd
@sharkey-rx3bd 7 жыл бұрын
@jabbingjack...When did they let you out?
@sharkey-rx3bd
@sharkey-rx3bd 7 жыл бұрын
I see you're still delusional.
@sharkey-rx3bd
@sharkey-rx3bd 7 жыл бұрын
WTF are you talking about? Remember, help is one phone call away.
@DanielC__
@DanielC__ Жыл бұрын
Devastating knockout. Also ripped his head off his neck. Brutal
@DavidByrne85
@DavidByrne85 11 жыл бұрын
Who Louis?
@sahirpulkool8113
@sahirpulkool8113 10 жыл бұрын
10 YEAR AGE DIFFERENCE..HEAR LIKE MOST FIGHT AGE IS THE "WINNER"
@RayPFP
@RayPFP 11 жыл бұрын
Marciano was only 5 10 with a 67 inch reach. wasn;t like he was gonna grow taller or grow longer reach. He would become wider. He was already slow at 184 , what do you think happens at 200 plus? He become even more slower and target.No way he fights effectively at 200 plus.
@andreaselleri400
@andreaselleri400 Жыл бұрын
Rocky, il migliore pugile di sempre
@mH8675309
@mH8675309 11 жыл бұрын
Different game and different set a rules back then. Different gloves too
@chrisrembert713
@chrisrembert713 10 жыл бұрын
@Christopher Miller Louis was still good but had lost his reflexes, and steam. He was 30lbs heavier but a bit past his prime weight. Even pressure fighters Frazier such Godoy, and Galento, were able to frustrate a prime Louis.
@mdmcdd1117
@mdmcdd1117 10 жыл бұрын
A prime Frazier may have knocked Louis out.
@mdmcdd1117
@mdmcdd1117 10 жыл бұрын
***** He may have knocked out a prime Louis too.
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Louis fought "pressure fighters" five times in his first career, and he knocked them all out. Rocky was problematic because Louis was old, simple as that.
@italod6872
@italod6872 8 жыл бұрын
I notice that Rocky M fought 7 times in 1951. I'm not a boxing fan, but 7 bouts in a year that's amazing isn't it or normal for it's time ?
@Xxchico213
@Xxchico213 8 жыл бұрын
I think depends on the fighter Mike Tyson fought like 12 times in 86
@italod6872
@italod6872 8 жыл бұрын
+Danny Reed Wow...I did not know that...my goodness...I suppose, the money had to be right, that's a lot of training and abuse on the body.
@user-fj1vw5qr6k
@user-fj1vw5qr6k 8 жыл бұрын
+Italo D in my humble opinion, Mike Tyson and Rocky Marciano managed so many fights in a year because they finished the fight early in the rounds with a knock out victory... making them less injured, less exhausted. which proves them great fighters
@Xxchico213
@Xxchico213 8 жыл бұрын
+Italo D exactly what he said. ^ both finished fights rather quickly and ending fights wit one punch and barely taking any damage so depends on the fighter
@zues2013
@zues2013 8 жыл бұрын
When your fighting bums and great fighters who are washed up its pretty easy to fight that many times in a year smh
@eslermanu47
@eslermanu47 9 ай бұрын
If Lewis had been 20 instead of 40 odd he would have knocked the head of Marciono
@drakulie
@drakulie 2 жыл бұрын
How old was joe here??? About 389 years old??
@frankroper3274
@frankroper3274 11 ай бұрын
94,000 then would be 1 cool million now!
@Ratsonic
@Ratsonic 7 жыл бұрын
Funny how the background sounds don't reflect what we are actually seeing.
@RayPFP
@RayPFP 11 жыл бұрын
Holy never fought at Lt heavy as a pro. Where did you get that from? One of your buddies? Sweetscience? Swaggerringgirl?> LOL Willard was 39, Firpo was beaten by Wills also.
@JackPeters-yk9wg
@JackPeters-yk9wg 11 ай бұрын
I love Marciano but Joe was not in his prime for this fight...If Joe was closer to his prime it may have been a different turn of events...
@Pedro_Le_Chef
@Pedro_Le_Chef 9 ай бұрын
Rocky doesn't make it out of round 10 against a prime Louis
@0Reilly08
@0Reilly08 8 жыл бұрын
This is akin to Maccarinelli knocking out Roy Jones. It's too bad when some great fighters can't stay retired.
@RayPFP
@RayPFP 11 жыл бұрын
1938 Louis would do a lot worse to Marciano. This old version of Louis has little resemblence of the prime Joe. I would take Louis via 3rd round ko over slow alligator armed Marciano.
@sashaboi13
@sashaboi13 10 жыл бұрын
joe louis was at a pretty old age for boxing, he already made his career finish strong before he fought rocky, rocky was simply younger and at that more flexibility and endurance Joe Louis is still better than Marciano no matter what greatest heavyweight boxer is ali greatest boxer is sugar ray robinson
@jonnyrotten9676
@jonnyrotten9676 11 ай бұрын
yah rocky marshyano was great
@scotttyson8661
@scotttyson8661 Жыл бұрын
Rocky,The White Mike Tyson
@haljohnsen2728
@haljohnsen2728 2 жыл бұрын
if you look at ROCKY RECORD ...yes undefeated as champion ..i love the man ..really ..but he only held the title like 5 times ....so mike tyson could have quit after his 10 title fight and still be the greatest ..but i love ROCKY cause of his greatest ...i do not know how else to explain it ...
@NemeanLion-
@NemeanLion- 11 жыл бұрын
I think whoever lives in the poorer economies, produces the greatest fighters. I think this is why before 1970, there were so many great fighters from different nationalities. After that it seemed to be mostly black and hispanic. Now it seems Russians have gotten into the mix.
@richporter7283
@richporter7283 9 жыл бұрын
Coming To America brought me here! Lol..
@chelismarin3065
@chelismarin3065 4 жыл бұрын
Ponerse a peliar , con rocky marciano era como ponerse con sanson a las patadas.
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