The differences: Berlin Tesla Model Y Performance v Shanghai Gigafactory Long Range.NEW suspension!

[@RSEV]

Couple of points; 1. I said new subs but I meant Amplifier(s) 2. NOT 4680. We think LG79kwh gross

[@SChristopherBurford]

That iPhone video and audio quality is pretty good!

[@tonyalbertsson919]

Was there any Acceleration Boost to buy on that Performance or is that only for LR?

[@olekristofferfagerli4063]

I have a fresh Shanghai made LR (delivery 28.june). This has a lot of the same upgrades as the Berlin made perfomance. Catering on the side of the back seats, double glased glass in the back, It is noticeable more quiet than the 2021, the glovebox opens smoothly.. I think a lot of the upgrades has been introduced simultaneously at the both factory's. Try find a mid 2022, Shanghai and check it against the Berlin made.

[@taefravis]

Great video as always. Two questions if I may. 1) How do you know that the UK Model Y's will now come with parcel shelf, did Tesla tell you direct or was it a 3rd party etc? 2) Do you know if the UK will get the Berlin made Model Y at some point or will we continue to get Shanghai? I know we are not in the EU now but surely it makes sense for Tesla to ship from Berlin to UK as it is cheaper and quicker shipping. Thanks.

[@sissizhang4867]

@@taefravis Is it possible that Nio can use Tesla's charging pile to charge at a speed of 130kw. Nio can occasionally replace the battery to reduce aging

[@jameschilton3556]

Great to see Tesla addressing concerns that have been highlighted. Softer suspension and parcel shelf have the thumbs up from me.

[@yifeiddd6797]

most Shanghai made Performance owner claim their suspension is softer than LR version's, I don't think it's an actual upgrade.

[@Ianmundo]

I own a Shanghai Model Y LR and have driven a Berlin Model Y Performance, the suspension really is better on the Performance model. As a result, I’ve ordered the Performance!

[@TheJensL]

Is yours a 2022- or 2021-model?

[@Ianmundo]

@@TheJensL 2021 Made in China Model Y Long Range

[@Ianmundo]

@@EtherOne where I live, it’s cheaper to upgrade to the Performance. Also, I don’t want suspension that isn’t under Tesla warranty

[@Anonym-dx2tp]

@@Ianmundo Very sustainable

[@arnevrbm]

@@Ianmundo lucky countries!

[@lyfandeth]

A rear parcel shelf is also a safety feature. It keeps the contents of the cargo area in place during an accident. If there's nothing to restrain them, any things left in the rear become surprisingly effective missiles if the car is hit from the front.

[@Foersom_]

Yes it will help a bit, but it is not good that it opens upwards. That means luggage flying will push the "shelf" off its magnet and send the shelf flying forward with the luggage. For a proper luggage cover see Skoda Enyaq.

[@anudureio]

@@Foersom_ that's correct, not to mention that it's a solid piece of wood or carton, not ideal -- would have better to have a rolling material imo

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

@@anudureio its mainly for sound insultation, rolling material is bad for that.

[@MarcoNierop]

I have a Model Y long range from Shanghai in The Netherlands, since september 2021, I do not miss the parcell shelf at all and actually use the big open boot a lot, the Parcel shelf would only be a nuisance for me. All other changes I would not even notice and are just trivial to me. Absolutely the best car I ever had, did a 620Km road trip to Germany hauling a glider trailer.. no problem at all, it added just one extra 15 minute charging stop, compared to my previous gas car. and the ease it goes over the steep inclines with the trailer is impressive.

[@maxflight777]

Like you Marco … I’m impressed with the MY. Approach and departure angles work well on my steep drive. Like you , I tow … a SeaDoo Wake Pro 230

[@JohnnyZenith]

I just want to thank you for doing what so many KZbinrs STILL do not. You shoot in 4k and importantly for me, 1440p.

[@flashback9966]

Just switched to 1440. Why didn't In think of that . . .

[@bigquinny32]

Just got my Model Y Long Range today from Shanghai and it too had mud flaps and a parcel shelf which was a nice surprise.

[@gavinrowson47]

How did the suspension feel ? I have mine due next month and it would be nice to think the suspension has been improved.

[@connclissmann6514]

No need to apologise for the video or sound quality, it was great. Interesting observations of the differences, thanks.

[@neilattwood6227]

I wonder if air suspension will happen now they've tweeked the setup? (Sure there were coding leaks on Twitter some months back) Excellent to see a co. this big with an effective feedback and redesign system. Arguably their most compelling product just got even better! Great vid once again!👍👍

[@Clove_Parma]

if they could add either air suspension/adjustable dampers and air ventilated seats (especially on black interior), many more would snap it up in a heartbeat. That said, people are anyway to be fair lol

[@omarbabakarkhail]

If they get air suspension, no car will come close.

[@ev.c6]

I like how Tesla changes stuff on the fly. It's like software development. Quite innovative.

[@jsouto77]

Audio/video quality was great as well as presentation. Thank you :)

[@jgkg]

Excellent, thanks Richard. Nice to see you at the weekend. Can't believe I missed this performance there! I have one on order. Getting better as I wait :-)

[@JoeOvercoat]

1:49 thank you you are channeling me right there my man you nailed the issue, where 99.99999% of Americans only understand softer as better.

[@SMX815]

Another fine review & it is interesting to see the nuances between each factory!

[@john999boy]

The (lack of a) parcel shelf was one of the things that put me off the early Model Y’s! Good to see German quality coming through too.

[@gpaje]

I'm not sure if that really shows German quality, most of those things are rolling changes that are done from Tesla. Probably all those updates he noted are going to be implemented at all the factories. How well it's actually put together and finished, that's where German quality will shine. I don't remember him highlighting it being superior to the other factories just yet.

[@Lass_muc]

New Model Y from Shanghai come with parcel shelf too now. Unfortunately they don't have the rest of the improvements. Especially the suspensions

[@sryev9410]

Great content as always. I just picked up a second model y, I have one of the first that rolled out of shanghai and I have a new one made in June 2022. The ride is way better on my new one, it’s also quieter, paint is quality on both cars. One difference: the horn in my old one registers at 65db in the car when honked but the new one is 75db when honked in the car!!

[@sryev9410]

Oh yeah my June 2022 car also has the new seats and they’re more comfortable and they seem to also be coming out of shanghai

[@sryev9410]

No parcel shelves coming out of shanghai for China market

[@sryev9410]

My boot also feels sturdier and clamps shut a bit louder. Also the door closing sound now sounds more like a bmw and less like a second hand skoda

[@EdwardMillen]

​@@sryev9410 Hi, what exactly have they changed with the seats? I've seen you and one other person mention it in the comments here, but I can't find anything else about them changing the seats anywhere online (and I'm worried they might actually be worse for me or my girlfriend, compared to the seats in the one we test drove which were very comfortable for both of us!) Edit: I've just realised some new seats with bigger bolsters are shown in this video... duh (I did watch it, but it was a few weeks ago and I didn't take any notice of that part then, because I thought they were a Performance thing rather than something that was being changed on the LR too). So are the seats in your LR exactly like the ones shown in this video?

[@sryev9410]

@@EdwardMillen yeah mate the new seats seem to be a bit better padded I guess and seem slightly wider?

[@kyrrer]

Here in Norway there has been some talk of panel gaps, uneven shades of paint colouring, and other such quality defects on the Berlin made cars as opposed to Shanghai made ones. Did you notice anything of that kind, or hear any reports?

[@netrox1345]

that kind of problem was a issue a few years ago but pleople should now(at least in theory) get their cars with no quiality defects.

[@kyrrer]

@@netrox1345 Ok, seems to be news stories about it current time as well. But I might very well be mistaken. Thanks for your response.

[@netrox1345]

@@kyrrer No problem but again that was a problem not a long time ago. Of corse maybe some pleople are maybe unlucky but still i saw 7 teslas and none of them had problems. They looked nice and clean. And about quality issues we can name other car companies like mercedes they had some interior quality issues too until 2020 i think

[@darekmistrz4364]

@@kyrrer For a brand new factory like that it is expected that finish might not be perfect. In Warsaw there is MYP that is one of early Berlin cars and You need to put quite a lot of force when shutting front doors. And they don't make a good sound compared to my Q3 MYLR. I heard that very very early Berlin cars needed brutal force to close doors. Most of these issues are fixed in currently produced MYP from Berlin

[@simonreeves2017]

Very encouraging to hear about improved suspension, one of the complaints about the M Y that I hear consistently. Very excited to see giga-Berlin start to ramp up. I have a BMW i3 at present, and the M Y is likely next, perhaps order in Jan 23 for delivery in Sept 23, by this time we should be seeing very refined M Y coming from this factory I think.

[@sncarhire]

@Simon Reeves would you consider the Ix3? Looks and drives well.

[@simonreeves2017]

@@sncarhire I think the down side of the iX3 is that it is based on a combustion car design, so there are compromises in the design. It does seem quite expensive for the achievable range, but it’s all down to personal needs and design taste. The reviews I’ve seen have all been quite positive, and I would probably a better option than a diesel or petrol X3. I’m no expert, just a consumer with a home mechanic background.

[@sncarhire]

@@simonreeves2017 totally agree, the Ix3 is soo overpriced (£10-15k more than the ICE model) doesn’t make any sense. Considering BMW had a head start with the I models, I’m abit surprised battery tech for BMWs has not improved to give consumers a bigger range.

[@simonreeves2017]

@@sncarhire - Yes, I agree with your assessment. I have had several BMWs, mainly 3 series, and I am fond of the brand. In som ways the i3 was a concept car that somehow made it into production, and I think BMW never really expected it to sell in significant volume - this is one of the reasons I like it so much; aluminium frame, carbon fibre tub, no rust, lightweight structure. If BMW thought it would sell in volume, they would not have chosen such radical materials and construction techniques. Soon after the i3 and i8 were released, there was a senior management change at BMW and they stopped developing EVs. I think they are now in a bit of a panic as we start to see combustion car sales falling year on year. I do hope they have not left it too late to pivot to an electric future, as a car market without BMW will have less sparkle and driving joy.

[@satyamarora388]

Looks like the only the performance suspension has improved?

[@jlee1652]

Apparently Richard, made in Shanghai Model Y Performance have been purported to feel slightly softer and more compliant to bumps and potholes by road testers in Hong Kong.

[@0-Will-0]

Oh man, I've been in denial but I must really be a Tesla fan boy to watch this and find it interesting. :)

[@mdf1978]

Or a Tesla investor, who wants to see the progress in quality. 😅

[@grahambrown42]

Sad isn't it 😂

[@CHDunham123]

Great video Rich and team. Got my MYLR (Shanghai) delivered last week in Leeds. Absolutely brilliant car, came with the parcel shelf which was a pleasant surprise as wasn't sure it would. I will never get bored of the acceleration on this thing. The ride comfort is no issue at all, don't even notice it even with the 20" wheels (which look bad ass)

[@maxflight777]

Well done for choosing the 20’s ! My LR is on 19’s and I “wince” every time I catch sight of the plastic aero trims.

[@ejlbo]

Interesting that the latest Shanghai models also come with parcel shelf. Other new changes (eg carpet at the seat belts at the back)?

[@sa.t.2507]

Did you get carpet on the sides of the back seat?

[@seb.]

@@maxflight777 just get mat black covers, problem solved

[@Jaw0lf]

Great video and quality is still excellent saying it was done on your phone. Also surprised how good the audio was without your mic.

[@Owsryudie]

I have driven this one as well in black. It is awesome! But the only downside is, the options I like costs 80-85.000 euro.. :(

[@pauldbeer]

The parttial-shelve I think, should reduce the hollow noise effect at highway speeds, thus quieter drive....??

[@Ianmundo]

yes, due to the huge glass roof, small sounds at the rear bounce off the glass and into your ears. This should help reduce that

[@Lecruque]

Yes, but it doesn't really. I drove one with and it's still a boombox inside. Pitty.

[@stewartabel]

Really good video comparison, thanks again for sharing

[@BarryMakariou]

How exciting, had my MYP on order since last year! We were originally promised mid 22 for del! Hopefully worth the wait

[@stephenclutton]

It would be interesting to know if these changes are local to Berlin which is the implication of what you are saying. As you note parcel shelves are included on the Shanghai cars being delivered now. I wonder if any other changes have made it through?

[@davidblair7475]

I had a March Y LR and a September delivery Model Y LR - The September Shanghai delivery has the same upgrades as the Berlin made performance. Carpeting on the side of the back seats, double glazed glass in the back, It is a lot quieter and a better ride than the March model and the glove box opens smoothly. So I think the Shanghai Y LR has all the upgrades of Berlin. The September Shanghai Model Y is a distinctly better car than the March Shanghai car. which was already much improved on my Previous Shanghai Model 3 LR and my 2 prior Freemont Model 3s. I think the current Shanghai build is getting close to being a "luxury" car!

[@nevahgiveup3574]

Hi David, can you confirm it came with a parcel shelf? I am getting a Model Y - Sep-Oct date and pulling my hair out to understand if it has the upgrades like better ride experience!

[@thelongame]

Oliver is a lovely guy. MYP is beautiful! Shout out to Tesla Owners Club UK for a great event. Hi to Serge!

[@chuckgoodwish3897]

Each factory builds cars based on Tesla’s specs. If the suspension is softer(better?) on German built cars, you should go ask why Tesla didn’t not use the same specs or material on Shanghai’s cars.

[@BobaFettUccine22]

And what they will do then? I believe 90% of MY owner would prefer softer suspensions

[@loose_unit]

I have an LR coming in the next few months - I hope it has the parcel shelf. I like to be able to chuck stuff in my boot and not think about how it looks.

[@NO3V]

8:34: A blue Model S Estate/Wagon in the background. 🤩

[@Terekness]

I took delivery of my M3P produced in Shanghai about 4 days ago. The suspension has been softened on it as well, compared to my old 2020 M3LR, produced in Fremont.

[@RSEV]

Yep seems to be common theme now so that’s great to know!

[@Paul37Ontario]

My 2022 Y LR hard ride got fixed when I brought the tires air pressure down to 36psi instead of 41psi. That made the world of difference. At 41psi the tires were hard as rock. At 36 the TPMS accepts it without any warning. The range loss is non existent to me. I think the recommended 41psi is insane

[@Paul37Ontario]

I’m in Canada, my Y LR is from Fremont California

[@iainsears1313]

My tyres arrived at over 50psi so well worth checking.

[@Paul37Ontario]

@@iainsears1313 the continental tires on mine max is 50. Way too much. There supposed to dampen cracks on the road as part of the suspension. Not amplify those cracks. And it’s not like the range suffers, I don’t notice any range loss

[@nienkerk1]

I’ve owned both a made in china and the new made in Germany model Y and the Berlin made Performance is a lot better in many ways. It’s also more quiet than the Shanghai made. My wife and I are in love, and it’s mostly the car 😂😉

[@sebbya8370]

Stop buying these overpriced Tesla cars. They are only in business because of cult followers like you, soon they will be out of business. Get off the Elon Kool aid

[@TheLikeagee6]

Thanks for showing differences 👍

[@AI-Driven-Entrepreneur]

Shelf helps block some of the noise from the rear wheels.

[@Pupuzor]

Very interesting and PRO as always but I find it weird that other youtubers are (after testing the car) calling speakers worse then MIC Teslas.

[@zoltrix7779]

Active dampers.... when! Cloth seat option when?

[@iainweller452]

Sounds like good improvements, l like the parcel shelf, the video quality wasn’t a problem 👍

[@Loafer316]

Great video Richard. I’m collecting my (MIC) MYLR on Thursday and already have a (Day One) June 2019 M3P so interested to see the differences and improvements over the years.

[@brooksietyper]

There have been some anecdotal reports of Q2 MY in the U.K. having better suspension than the Q1 cars. I do hope this is the case as I’m picking mine up on Thursday! Perhaps you could do a video on a q1 vs q2 MY comparison. Parcel shelf looks like it may get in the way of the getting stuff in and out of the boot. Mine will live in the loft.

[@RSEV]

I want to try one of the current batch asap!

[@TeckleEh]

​@@RSEV Got my Model Y last week and compared to the demo Y I test drove the ride quality is significantly better on mine. Granted I am on the 19s on my car and test drove on the 20s so unsure if that is enough to explain the difference?!

[@DHaslop]

@@RSEV Picking mine up in Staines tomorrow if you want a go. Based on Islington. MYLR.

[@ianjones3562]

My October 2021 MYP order has actually updated to delivery November 11th- 26th December 2022 on my app. Hopefully it’s from Berlin . White on white 👍

[@NickisModel3]

Great video! Keep it up - it looks amazing

[@wobby1516]

I’d sooner a parcel shelf that retracted like a roller blind. I think the one fitted is to much of a faff about to use, where does one park it when not required?

[@DaviDeXtA]

That parcel shelf looks like a bit of an after thought. Most other cars in this category have one that can be slid away into a hidden compartment then retracted back. The one fitted here just looks like it would be in the way. Great video as always!

[@kocinshh]

I think the biggest reason is noise cancelling from the back, the explain that it is solid and slid away

[@Nessal83]

The quality issues is largely from the Fremont factory. It used to be a Chevrolet/Toyota plant converted for Tesla. These new plants built ground up to Tesla specs produce much better cars.

[@darekmistrz4364]

I feel like there is also underlying culture here. Germans are known for good quality. China is also known for good quality In high end products. I feel like America never focused on quality in their products, especially in cars

[@g2024_]

Wish they’d gone with a roller retractable rear parcel shelf, especially if it could then be stored under the floor

[@naarealy]

I believe someone on a different video showed that it could be placed flat on the load floor when not needed.

[@frank118]

Video quality was really good. Great video. Thank you.

[@danielbukowski]

We’ve had Berlin cars delivered in Sweden with funky fitted doors, rattling armrest and so on so I would say Berlin is on pair with Shanghai build wise.. They’ve removed some tweeters from the speaker system, yes, but better? Did the passenger seat get better when they removed the lumbar support? It’s cutting corners. The tweeters were domed unnecessary.

[@sa.t.2507]

Also I would say that Shanghai builds of the MY is more precise and has less panel gaps. The worst ones come from Freemont. So people that claim that Shanghai are worse is simply wrong I belive. Also I belive and hope that all new MYLR from Shanghai will also have the fabric over the plastic sides in the backseat.

[@briannorris6446]

@@sa.t.2507 I have an early RHD Freemont built M3P down under. Many people have complained about panel fit, ride etc, but all panel fit and finish on my car are excellent. Ride and handling are brilliant, I have had very few issues with phantom braking and I can't see any need for a HUD. The auto headlights and washers perform without fault and its hard to reconcile many of the complaints with the car that I have. I hope my MYP will be as good a car.

[@hiddeninsweden]

My MYP from Berlin has no rattles what’s so ever, quiet and ride comfort is so much better than LR from China. I recently drove in tuff condition gravel roads in Sweden and the suspension did a fantastic job.

[@sa.t.2507]

@@hiddeninsweden I have also driven both and would say that the ride feels quite similar.

[@danielbukowski]

@@hiddeninsweden The suspension is indeed tweaked for the Berlin car for better or for worse.. It’s softer however I’ve heard owners saying it leans more which is contradicting the “Performance”-brand. They should’ve but that suspension in the Long Range instead. Other than that I’ve seen pictures and clips from numerous forums of Berlin builds, some sublime, some have misaligned doors, headlights and so on.. Is the Berlin car better built? I’d beg to differ - however it seems to be on pair with the Shanghai cars.. Also don’t forget, the tweaks the Berlin Performance cars got over earlier Long Range cars are now present on the Q2 builds from Shanghai. Cheers Buddy

[@omelvold]

There’s also four steel hooks for securing in the trunk. I don’t know if that’s new? Still missing the flexible partition net though..

[@TheDanishSpaceman]

Great coverage and sound and vid quality are great! I wonder how the lighting in the boot is now when the parcel shelf is covering the light coming from above 🤔 Btw, didn’t the Model 3 Performance also have a slightly better ride than the LR models due to more sofiticated springs and maybe even shocks?

[@mannkeithc]

I would prefer to have a parcel shelf. It cuts down on noise from the rear load area. I have a Tesla Model Y on order but asked for delivery to be delayed until August - September, as I wasn't available to receive the car when they were originally proposing to deliver in end Jun / early Jul, so hope I now receive a Model Y with parcel shelf. Have you seen any new UK Model Ys arrive with the parcel shelf fitted?

[@Sam-tx1tn]

Any predictions when the X will make it to the U.K? I’ve had an order in since 2020. First world problem for sure but still frustrating.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Parcel shelf likely reduces trunk noise.

[@c0mbat15]

Yep, when I think of a parcel shelf, the biggest benefit I think of is noise reduction. Given how noisy the Model Y is I'd be interested to know whether the dB measurements have changed.

[@andreasfromnorway5577]

This may be unrelated to the MYP, but the wheels on that white model X in the background early in the video really looks the part! Anyone know who make them, or have any wheel specs on that car? 👀

[@vincentohanlon]

Got my Shanghai MY LR with 20 inch wheels about 4 months ago. Initially didn't mind the hard suspension but now it's starting to really annoy me. It's not so much the crashiness, it's more the general headbobbing. The car just struggles to settle down. Considering upgrading to Mountain Pass Performance suspension, or maybe getting a new Berlin MY next year. Definitely an issue and good to see Tesla starting to get a handle on this, although it should never really have been an issue.

[@joshcunningham1702]

Great to see you and the team at the event Richard. In terms of ride quality, I find that to be the case with Model 3 LR & P driving back to back I found the 2021 (MIC) M3P to be a softer ride than the LR on 19" sport wheels.

[@RSEV]

Good to see you too! We’ll done for working so hard on the event 👏🏼 Totally agree on the ride. Our work m3p lr has 19’s and it’s harder than almost anything

[@evilras]

I really really REALLY hate to say it... But the audio and visual were good... Not an iPhone fan... And would still say a dedicated camera and audio set up is better! But in a pinch that worked well. Great video Serge!

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Parcel shelf is mostly about keeping the boot contents hidden from view.

[@runerosenvold7411]

Helps with noise reduction as well.

[@maxflight777]

It’s impossible to see into the boot.

[@fonzyb1270]

Great video, just received delivery of my Model Y Long Range with 20" Induction wheels yesterday, I'm in Northern Ireland (UK) so I take it came from the Shanghai factory.Came with the rear parcel shelf, 👍 had to run out and check if carpet had been fitted beside the rear seats but no, still plastic. Really pleased with it so far, had fun with the Tesla light show on the Toybox app last night, near sh*t when the windows and boot lid started to open and close 😂😂

[@Youtubedotcomma]

Did you get the matrix headlights too?

[@fonzyb1270]

@@KZbindotcomma I'm not sure tbh, the lights do spell out Tesla when you do the lightshow but I thought only the performance model had the matrix headlights.

[@CHDunham123]

Congrats man!!! Like you I got the 20"wheels. I am soooo glad I did, looks amazing when it got delivered and unless you are a car reviewer I really don't think you notice any difference in ride quality ... just my view ... what do you think?

[@fonzyb1270]

@@CHDunham123 yeah, I agree, ride quality is really good, check your tyre pressures though, mine were set at 46 when they should be 42 psi

[@CHDunham123]

@@fonzyb1270 good tip. Will do

[@robertvanzant2653]

For the price of it I would expect adaptive dampers as standard or an air ride option .

[@Sam-tx1tn]

100%

[@BrianJense]

An expectation must mean the majority of cars, costing the same, has adaptive dampers. Which ones ? I've just checked mercedes, bmw, porsche and volvo and none has it as standart even close to this price. polestar has manual adaptive suspension, EV6 and VW has a system that uses the word adaptive, but it is not what one thinks of as real adaptive suspension. I just don't know which electric car has it at this price point.

[@maxflight777]

Air is no softer than bent steel ! Any suspension engineer will tell you that.

[@Sam-tx1tn]

@@BrianJense Most BMW’s have adapative suspension so not sure where you looked.

[@Sam-tx1tn]

@@maxflight777 your point?

[@troyboy4345]

Runs to the driveway to check over his Model Y LR Shanghai to compare to this video .... (Delivered last Friday)

[@qilu2004]

all these product updates have been implemented in tesla shanghai by the end of june. tesla makes small changes for their products from time to time. in theory, all factories should produce same products if the receipe is the same.

[@retro_collector8245]

Hi great video , do the new 2023 MYP come with these upgrades carpet , updaters soft plastics and heated wipers ? Or is it just the Berlin models ?

[@bidon5037]

Still no ceiling handles but pleased that models continuously improve over time.

[@Mr_Tooty]

Ceiling handles are definitely not a necessity

[@colinlee5248]

Great video as usual. Picked up my model Y LR and was pleasantly surprised I had a rear shelf. You didn’t show that you can fold the entire shelf away meaning there’s no reason to remove it etc.

[@superleggenda]

I believe Richard said something to the effect that he prefers NOT having one. It’s the typical accessory that lots of people take out of the car after one week and find in the garage five years after having sold the car. I’m not saying that is what I would do, but I can see people doing exactly that.

[@colinnich]

@@superleggendaI don't understand why you would run without a parcel shelf? Wouldn't everything in your boot get stolen? I certainly wouldn't be comfortable without one.

[@superleggenda]

@@colinnich Are you serious? I have no actual sales figures, but more than a million Model Ys have been sold WITHOUT one. The rear glass panels are tinted from the factory. The parcel shelf is a recent feature, introduced as usual in China.

[@gavbansal967]

Do you know when the German built Tesla Y ( long range) will start to be delivered in the UK?

[@abr00ky]

Anybody know why Berlin RWD shows 244 miles but Shanghai RWD shows 260 miles. Apparently both have CATL LFP battery if the seventh digit of the VIN is F. Mystery.

[@mowburnt]

I hope My Model y (arriving on rhe boat tommorow) has the parcel shelf fitted :-) I'd imagine that would help on reverberation noise. Would be interesting to see if they've updated suspension for that shipment too

[@CHDunham123]

If it helps, I had mine delivered last Friday (I'm in England), it's Shanghai built and did come with the parcel shelf

[@mowburnt]

@@CHDunham123 fingers crossed then. I’m Uk also and it’s due Thursday. Very excited

[@CHDunham123]

@@mowburnt man, pleased for you, it's so fun when it arrives. I had a test drive back in Feb but kinda forgot just how good the speed, traction and torque is. Gotta be careful though, blink and you are doing 50 in a 30 zone without realising 😬

[@mowburnt]

@@CHDunham123 lol. I've never test driven a model y or any tesla....should be fun

[@Lecruque]

It doesn't help though. Still booming sounds at low speed

[@stevehale4712]

I suspect the parcel shelf for European deliveries is so that you can leave items in the car without them being visible, in China crime rates are very low and you can safely leave things visible without the risk of items being stolen

[@JV-py3lg]

I wonder if they changed the suspension on the performance and didn’t update the long range 🤔 The performance did feel smoother on the last test drive. The LR I received feels a tad rougher

[@AndrewNC22]

Generally parcel shelves stop some noice from entering the cabin.

[@mattb8734]

Video was all good as always

[@THEANIMALGUY]

Is the plastic being more squishy worse or better?

[@MultiYlin]

since Berlin is getting battery from CATL, I dont know if Tesla wants to ship 4680 across the Atlantic

[@mike.n.davies]

Surely those front seat differences are due to it being a Performance model rather than a long range? Nothing to do with being from a different factory?

[@mathieusturkenboom]

i know performance 3s have same suspension as LRs since early ‘22 so i assume its the same thing for the Y

[@pizza88]

Are we getting model 3 from the Berlin factory in the UK you reckon?

[@lucasfunkt]

Do we know when/if Giga Berlin will be producing RHD cars?

[@lucasfunkt]

This video could be completely moot if it's not for another year or more because the cars we actually get may have changed again and be different to this one.

[@eddiewawa]

Nice sneak peek mate so thank you for the video! For the lot in the UK? I wonder if the shanghai factory shut down for the ramp scheduled in July will also include the Berlin improvements since not too much has changed and is still on the 2170 cells. The suspension change will be a massive one esp for the UK B roads

[@RSEV]

I agree. I want to try one of the latest batch of Y to see!

[@guyhawkins557]

Just collected a MYLR, Shanghai built. Can confirm the suspension is more compliant than the Y I test drove in March. It also has a parcel shelf and the bigger bolsters on the seats, but the rear seat sides are still plastic, not carpet.

[@EdwardMillen]

​@@guyhawkins557 What exactly have they changed with the seats? I've been trying to find out, but I can't find anyone else mentioning it anywhere. Do you know of any photos of the new seats anywhere online? Thanks Edit: I've just realised some new seats with bigger bolsters are shown in this video... duh (I did watch it, but it was a few weeks ago and I didn't take any notice of that part then, because I thought they were a Performance thing rather than something that was being changed on the LR too). So are the seats in your LR exactly like the ones shown in this video?

[@EdwardMillen]

​@@RSEV have you had a chance to try any of the latest batch yet, or will you let us know when you do? (and is it a new batch starting this month (August), or have I got my delivery months mixed up?)

[@guyhawkins557]

@@EdwardMillen The biggest change is the depth of the bolsters. Both the side and base bolsters are much deeper (10cm), such that now we have to climb out of the seat, rather than just slide across the base bolster. They are now deep enough for this to be a bit awkward, and the bolster takes a bit of a crushing getting in and out, but the seats hold us really well once in and driving. The test car we drove was completely different, the base bolsters did not impede entry or exit at all. I have photos but not sure how to attach them here.

[@BigProgram]

This is filmed on a phone? Awesome quality! I guess iphone?

[@paulfisher5501]

Did you notice lowered suspension. Ground clearance is a concern for me.

[@customtesla]

more or less the same height.

[@roygardiner4002]

Business users will need the parcel shelf to hide any commercial or computer kit from thieving eyes, as well as replacement costs of smashed back windows for those with no shelf.

[@satyamarora388]

Ok based on this video and some videos/posts I've been seeing, it seems the Model Y performance suspension is softer than the long range, would you agree?

[@MichaelPickles]

So Berlin will be supplying all performance model Y to the UK?

[@RSEV]

I’d assume so

[@NotJanine777]

@@RSEV spoke to Winchester Tesla yesterday and they said all of their MY Performance models are still coming from Shanghai. They didn’t know when of if anything would be coming from Berlin. I sat in both the LR and the performance and was very impressed with the fit, finish and build quality of both (Shanghai) models.

[@christopherwoodhouse7286]

Wouldnt want the parcel shelf unless collapsible into one of the extra boot space so wouldnt be needed often due to the car been used for a dog

[@squk101]

I received my brand new model y today (from Shanghai) the suspension is really quite good, I’m wondering if the second batch from Shanghai is similar to Berlin?

[@rexeady4325]

Thanks for the update Richard, very interesting. The parcel shelf looks awful, what a faff getting it where you want it. I think most owners will take it out and park it in the garage! Needs a roller shutter to cover things that are in the back, you would not want to store stuff on it. Picture and sound were fine by the way!

[@artfeingold3856]

The parcel shelf will spend its time in the garage/attic...leaves no room for the dog!

[@maxflight777]

My 2020 X5 MSPORT had adaptive dampers … the replacement (2022 PVG built Tesla MY LR with acceleration boost does not) The Tesla ride / handling is far superior to the clunky X5

[@rossowen422]

Tell you what's different about the seats. There made in Germany

[@terencehonda]

The parcel shelve is one more potential source for rattles

[@runerosenvold7411]

No rattles in mine performance made in Berlin . Surprisingly quiet car even with 21”.

[@mgonps]

@@runerosenvold7411 Can you check this "issue" in your model Y, Thanks kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2jGZYycrs6ZgJI

[@jackwhitlock1]

That's why it has magnets...

[@TheJAMF]

Just shows that you have to come prepared, always! 😎 At least you should bring your lavelier microphone with you. "Bad audio can make a good video unwatchable."... and video on phones these days is pretty darn good. On the parcel shelf: it needs a loop at the armrest, so you can lift that bit, just to get access to the middle section release. Also; the parcel shelf blocks the view from luggage and might prevent thieves from breaking the small window.

[@blankblank8692]

is this happening in bicester, gutted i missed it

[@danielcondins5812]

Great video as always!! Thanks! :-)

[@glassdomedesign]

Any word on if the 4680 batteries are or will be added to the performance model Y?

[@glassdomedesign]

I added this comment before I got to the end of the video where you say that this isn’’t 4680 nor structural. - apologies. Great video update though. Like you I have the M3 LR and Taycan (but Cross Turismo) and swapping the 3 for a MY Performance which is due in August / September. Was thinking of holding for the 4680, but that could be ages away

[@wyx087]

Any guess when U.K. will get Berlin built Y LR? Good news for suspension, I’ve got U.K. launch price reservation Y LR on hold for Berlin built ones.

[@vladimirsara9790]

btw. what CPU chip do they use at berlin? still intel or its AMD?

[@markmahood2019]

watching this video thinking yes these changes are great when I can't afford a 5 year old fiesta let alone a model Y performance. 😆