RTGame and I try to understand 5D Chess and Time Travel

[@RTGame]

This was such good craic!! We need to play together more

[@puzzlesandmore7100]

Hiiii! This video is awesome you guys should!

[@AnnaRudolfChess]

I had a blast, Sir, thanks for the invite again!! And absolutely, I'm definitely down for more collabs! Traditional chess will feel so EASYYY! 🙌

[@andresmartinezramos7513]

This wasn't a collaboration I was expecting

[@NickMaovich]

random review from steam: Ah yes, classic chess. The bishop in my present timeline time travels back in time in an ill-fated attempt to assassinate my king only to be undone by my queen as she travels back in time alongside the bishop to stop his assassination attempt. Then the enemy king travels to an alternate dimension to avoid a checkmate which creates a parallel present timeline as well as there being 2 kings enemy kings in 1 board. In other words, I don't know how to play this

[@Mastikator]

LMAO sounds like the plot of Terminator 1&2.

[@mr_man-to7bv]

When the entire plot of the game is to recreate terminator

[@AMan-xz7tx]

@@Mastikator *starts 5D chess match *sends queen back in time *enemy sends their queen *terminator theme starts playing

[@mompomil]

In an alternate reality, I completely understood how to play 5D Chess

[@AMan-xz7tx]

as a time traveller, I really like how Dr. What explained it when he played it with Dr. Who in the Tardis, on his famous TV show, "Dr. What", it really helped me figure out how to get to a timeline where the other guy is the main character

[@motivationintensifies9558]

For anyone that wants to know what high level play looks like. Allegedly the queen piece is so overpowered since it can travel along every axis that a forced mate sequence is a standard opener.

[@AMan-xz7tx]

and they also had to add a "princess" piece to specifically be a nerfed queen

[@aidenmiles2027]

My brain melted and then reformed stronger, but I still don't fully understand 5D chess lol

[@BAXEN]

i understand 5d better than chess itself

[@cenkkinqzzzz3002]

@@BAXEN what zu zalking zabout

[@AMan-xz7tx]

you need to go to a 4D game then come back, add a few wrinkles to your reformed, solid & smooth brain, in all 6 dimensions

[@phrophetsamgames]

God the brain cells needed to be a 5D Chessmaster GM must be astronomical

[@nielsunnerup7099]

Well, considering that you just need to be better than other humans to be a gm, it should be the same.

[@RAFMnBgaming]

In a way it's kinda like being a kid too young to understand what all of the pieces actually do and being happy that you did something that ended up working.

[@micahbeckner2274]

Dan is quite literally four parallel universes ahead of the competition

[@michaellv426]

This game shows how **really** important it is to know history. If you don't know history, you don't know where your king was, and can't protect him from the attacks by time travelers.

[@AMan-xz7tx]

in other words, if you were vulnerable at any point, expect t-1000 terminators to come through every opening in your house at that exact point in time

[@mihaipista5661]

Chess is hard... 5d Chess with multiverse time travel: Hold my beer

[@shantoreywilkins651]

#3dchess

[@freshjori]

You should have wrote 'Hold my pawn' instead of hold my beer :D

[@kiranmeyers6558]

There's a 5D chess discord with some tournaments coming up. Would be awesome to see either of you!

[@shantoreywilkins651]

🆗️♟

[@esWhistler]

everytime Anna asks if the piece is actually potentially in two places at once like quantum chess the answer is actually no, the piece that moves through time, dimensions or both is now only in the new timeline it has moved to and left the original one, so for example in 9:40 Dan does not have a board with 3 queens, but a board with no queen, a board with 1 and a board with 2 (one of which is the queen that moved through the 3 universes)

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

I don't think Anna understands what "moves through time" means, though.

[@jocosesonata]

Regular Chess moves two-dimensionally on a flat board in a single linear unalterable timeline. 5D Chess moves three-dimensionally on a 4D board on multiple timelines. Basically, imagine a chess piece with the whole xyz axis available, but instead of just moving in space, it also moves across time. And replace the flat board of squares with a box filled with cubes.

[@AMan-xz7tx]

5D chess is the only game where you can win by just waiting and also where R.e6.T12.L-2 is a valid move

[@ergon1798]

Haven't watched the whole video so they might figure this out in the video, but the reason why they could play only on some of the boards is that you can only have created as many additional timelines as your opponent plus one. Any additional timelines become inactive.

[@ergon1798]

Or at least your opponent doesn't have to play on them.

[@stewartb1019]

The inactive timelines system results in the single most insane strategy in the game; creating inactive timelines with all your kings, so that you don't have any kings on active boards. Once you figure that one out, the game kind of loses it's appeal.

[@walkingsophie]

@@stewartb1019 Well the opponent can create timelines to counteract that.

[@nullpoint3346]

@@walkingsophie If you build the timeline correctly you should be able to take their kings before they can complete it. But that was said without me fully understanding board states and movement options for 5d chess, so take that with as much salt as you have.

[@conquerorsbladestuff4316]

@@stewartb1019 your opponent can create a timeline of his own to activate the inactive timeline where you stored your kings. then you are at a disadvantage as you have to defend multiple kings at the same time.

[@ca-ke9493]

This could be good for team tournaments. This reminds me of Back in my secondary school team when we didnt feel like properly learning chess we would play transfer chess which was just your partner could take the pieces that was captured by you on your board and place it anywhere on their board to help their game (2 Consecutive games).

[@maxthexpfarmer3957]

Crazyhouse?

[@nullpoint3346]

Sounds interesting.

[@haylemoo]

Th... That’s... _Isekai Chess_

[@Luredreier]

14:14 The reason is that you can only create one more valid timeline then your opponent at any given time. If you make more they'll stay inactive till your opponent makes a new timeline. You *can* make a move on any board where it's your turn. But only active timelines influences where the present is. And you're only required to make moves on boards that's currently in the present, not boards in the future or past.

[@laurenf.7922]

Ngl if this becomes mainstream somehow I will definitely get back to playing chess just so I specifically can learn and play this.

[@vgarzareyna]

I think it's better to not play chess, because not kinda limits your thinking

[@TheIrishDino]

You guys got so good at chess, time broke.

[@spynix0718]

I actually think that RT's video on 5D chess got me back into chess. I'm extremely glad to.

[@Autoskip]

I want to see you two vs each other in 5D chess - it has the nice advantage of knowing that you're both about as (in)experienced in it, so you don't need to worry about the ridiculous skill of the random people playing.

[@PHeMoX]

He actually misplayed the queen move the second time back in time or could have had 3 queens and a pretty high advantage from then onwards. Especially with kings entering a different dimension. Also, the game fails miserably at visually explaining what's going on. Because the way pieces can move also matters. You _can't_ just move a queen to any position on a previous board at all. It has to follow movement through the other dimensions, which is actually fixed (just, the queen happens to have a lot of moves it can make).

[@PHeMoX]

Also, you _can_ jump back in time twice in a row. But _afterwards_ you can no longer do it until your opponent catches up jumping back in time an equal amount of times (max 2 times).

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

Yes, this is my one huge complaint of this game: the producers avoided putting any type of tools to help the player visualize what is happening. In particular, turns and timelines should have coordinates labelling them, just as squares in an individual board do, so that one can actually numericall understand how the movement works.

[@paydenjohnson8998]

Quantum chess sounds easier to understand.

[@DaveLH]

Quantum chess is a cinch compared to 5D.

[@danielyuan9862]

The thing about quantum chess is that quantum entanglement can't be seen on the board, so even though quantum chess is technically perfect information, not all the information is shown on the board. AKA there is ambiguity in the sense that a board can mean multiple positions.

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

@@danielyuan9862 This is incorrect. The probability distribution fo the entire board is shown, so all the information needed is shown on the board.

[@thewanderingmistnull2451]

@@angelmendez-rivera351 Perfect information would collapse the wavestate, so no, it is not in fact shown.

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

@@thewanderingmistnull2451 Perfect information would not collapse the wavestate. This is a misconception of how quantum theory works.

[@Luredreier]

36:26 At first i thought that the answer here was to noth both attacks, but they're both on whites turn, so you have to go back on a different timelines where it's your turn and either checkmate him before getting that far, or capture his queen before he can check you...

[@brontoskipper-1]

Taking 10 minutes to take a queen that was forking two of your kings, one within space and one along the multiverse

[@MusikCassette]

the reason some branches do not move forward is that you can only ever create one branch more than your opponent. so if you create more branches he can basicly choose witch timelines he wants to progress.

[@ElectricAlice]

This was SUCH a fun and yet confusing stream, I really hope you'll make more collabs together!

[@maxthexpfarmer3957]

They still don't realize that you can't move pieces on boards that have already advanced. I'm pretty sure the only way to get out of a check on a king on a board that has advanced, which means there is an arrow coming out from it directly to the right, would be to capture the piece attacking it or push the present back. And finally, if the "Submit Move" button is fading green and gray, you don't need to make any more moves before submitting. Also, you should try some of the variations such as the one with unicorns or the small variant.

[@alexashley9140]

This is so confusing, I completely understand how you're confused by it Anna, and I barely know how to play classic chess so it's even harder for me!

[@airkami]

How he won: Pushing time forward changes where the present queen can move to across dimensions.

[@OLI-ns1fm]

ah yes 5d chess i totally understand

[@prototype014]

"I like your funny words, magic man!"

[@naturegirl1999]

I see this meme a lot, what’s it from?

[@BAXEN]

Anna. So I was playing a simple-noqueens, and my king got checkmated by a bishop, so i went back in time on another board before the current time of the checkmate. I managed to gain some control on the board in the past in such a way that when this past board caught up with the checkmate, i could move a piece across dimensions and take the piece that was checkmating me.

[@Wilker_uwu]

funny thing is that i actually thought saw the move from the beginning of that move (see @47:30). Qe4 down 1 dimension (i.e the first future board below the threatening board. but then i became confused as to how would that not be considered a checkmate already, because what is actually happening is that the queen is doing a double attack on the first board and across dimensions which you were pondering the thole round. now the next step is to figure out how to get a piece to defend the king in the threatening dimension, because as the queen there went away and it's not your turn there anymore, only one of the future boards can get material to defend now. think you can figure out?

[@ExcludedLayman]

Holding a move is subtly one of the most powerful concepts in the game. Don't donate moves to your opponent!

[@AMan-xz7tx]

a bishop might have check, but only once the pawn unblocking the king is 3 turns in the past, sometimes the strongest moves are the ones your opponent has already made

[@Luredreier]

21:33 I don't think it's about being the Queens move. Rather there's a diagonal through the dimensions to any spot that the queen can hit in the current point in time towards the past. So the queen can go to its current position in the past at any time as long as there's no pieces in that spot between that time and now because that's a direct line for the queen. But it can also move to the spots a king could move in that spot in the last move. And the move before that there's a circle around the spot where the queen is two squares away that it can go to. Then two moves in the past you can send the queen 3 squares away but not 2 squares away etc, because this is all a diagonal through to time.

[@Luredreier]

My brain hurts... -_-

[@brycehowell2560]

You only need to make a move in the present (the vertical line). If a player makes a move into the past, the other player does not /need/ to make a move in the past, but they can

[@andrius00911]

White moves pawn e2-e3, then random 4 moves, on move 6 white moves qe2# checkmate past black king from starting position.

[@satori1134]

This is fairly straight-forward.

[@danielbenyair300]

The chess variants I recommend to learn to help understanding 5D are the following: • Cylinder • Crazy House • Bug House • 3D Understanding each of those will help you understand parts of 5D (only all together would help you understand 5D completely

[@danielbenyair300]

54:35 if the computer were to take the Rock playing Nf6 would trap the queen by time travel (meaning taking time travel into account the queen would eventually have nowhere to escape to

[@jackstrob1910]

This is so wholesome and difficult at the same time

[@chewbekah]

I think maybe I should come back and watch this again when I can actually play norma chess! This seems insane but loads of fun!

[@AMan-xz7tx]

yo, you good at chess yet?

[@shf1234567]

Imagine how hard blindfold 5D chess would be

[@sergiosanchez6323]

Me encanta ♥️♥️♥️ tu voz es tan tierna :3 y cuando te preocupas por estar en una situación complicada eres a un más adorable, y es impresionante como resuelves esas situaciones, me encantas ♥️♥️♥️

[@James-k1416]

5D Chess is very confusing!

[@shantoreywilkins651]

#yep

[@ramachandra776]

Is this chess meant for the flash and other super speedsters ? 🤔 .

[@dillonzhang978]

"Beaming Queen to Queen's level Three"...

[@Hawk_of_Battle]

RT; I refuse to accept a world where it makes sense. Me; But... it DOES make sense.

[@happyhippoeaters4261]

Ah yes, the beginners guide to time travel.

[@ergon1798]

Imagine 5D chess sub battles with Hikaru and Levy

[@coreyhughes1456]

That quantum chess she mentioned sounds cool lol.

[@still_your_zelda]

This was so confusing, twitch broke. 😂 No but my app and website were down for most of this. Excited to see the rest of it here!

[@erumaaro6060]

He checkmated the same king across time, space and multiverses at 5 different... 4D coordinates?

[@9181shreyasbhatt]

How about we try to follow check capture threat strategy?

[@OmneAurumNon]

I would love to see more 5d chess here :')

[@JB49105]

Yeah I've watched 10 videos about 5d chess and I still don't understand

[@prototype014]

Does the bishop have to move the same amount at least in two dimensions?

[@salty_jedi]

36:30 I was just hoping they would go to the beginning lol

[@manusoftar]

This is pretty similar to QuantumChess

[@EnderCrypt]

lol, this guy gives SO many wrong answers to how to play this game, still a very entertaining video

[@Luredreier]

1:23:51 He's wrong, you just captured 5 kings. He didn't notice it taking the king on the same board. 1:25:53 There he noticed. ^^

[@chiragyadav5573]

this game is for Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein only, I think the dev forgot to mention this

[@PhysicsGaunt]

Would that not just be 4D chess? Both directions, time and multiverse?

[@MatsMatsuo]

it's 3 dimensional, + time +multiverse, it's 3d cause you can check trough the board, like every board it's a layer

[@ld1661]

@@MatsMatsuo No, normal chess is only 2d. This adds 2 more dimensions so it must be 4d

[@MatsMatsuo]

@@ld1661 it's like you completely ignored what i just said, do you understand the concept of an "integral" ? literally by doing an integral in a square you add infinite layers to make a cube, and in this 5D chess you can check through layers, so it's 3 dimensional in space

[@PhysicsGaunt]

@@MatsMatsuo Yes, but the layers represent the "multiverse" aka. the different possible outcomes introduced by the time travel. If you had infinitely many boards (by time traveling infinity many times to create them) and played infinitely long, the overview of boards would be a 2d plane of time in the right and left direction and multiverses in the up / down direction, no? Connected with the two additional spacial dimensions I only see 4.

[@MatsMatsuo]

@@PhysicsGaunt i think the multiverse are represented by the parallel branch boards open by some of the moves, not the ones behind that i'm calling by "layers", so you can travel a piece back in time, but you can also check a king who is in a layer behind and not necessarily travelling the piece back in time, it is 3D since the depth is important in the positions, as the guy showed in the video, he gave a check in 2 kings who were in some layers behind

[@TheHiroO]

the end of this video is amazing... Hikaru is another level of a guy.... he don't play 5d chess thats easy for him he does multi dimensional raids to anna ahahahahahaha daaammm so powerful

[@DeadPerfection]

Hikaru had no sweet clue what he was doing when he tried to do 5d chess idk what you're talking about

[@NO-zb3fz]

Hikaru may be a chess gm. But he is INSANELY below average in 5d chess. Even his own chat surpassed him in it.

[@TheHiroO]

@@NO-zb3fz I know... that's exactly the point.... what is 5d chess when he can do multidimensional raid ?.... xD it's a sarcasm baby....

[@NO-zb3fz]

@@TheHiroO a multidimensional raid is 5d chess though? The joke makes zero sense then.

[@TheHiroO]

@@NO-zb3fz 5d chess is a multidimensional game.... multidimensional enviroment.... it's a multidimensional thing .... LoL it's pretty damm simple, don't try to turn complex in your head, that's not making any sense ...

[@randomperson5579]

world lines? what is this Steins Gate

[@Luredreier]

Please do play this game directly yourself. :-) I'm curious about what you'd be able to do vs a harder ai or a human.

[@wesleylai1648]

I just look at GMHikaru with 19k people than see Ninja with 8.1k

[@tepan]

This is so Rick and Morty! :)

[@Zahlenteufel1]

It must be harder for people who are better at chess. Otherwise I can't explain why it is so obvious to me even though these people are so much smarter than me. They are probably trapped in the very cognitive mechanisms that allow them to be so good at normal chess in the first place.

[@aleksakocijasevic6613]

You could have just read the rules. It's not that complicated actually. Only the animations can be a little confusing but the rules are pretty simple. :D

[@afzalahmed3188]

FINALLLYYY

[@LaPtaVerdad]

Now put stockfish to learn this so he can play prime magnus prime bobby fischer and prime armenian ogre at the same time in different timelines and fcuk everyone up xD

[@MatsMatsuo]

5d chess, 5head quite simple really

[@TheHiroO]

dammit... I think I understand while they're playing better than them or at least bit faster... lol thats awkward.... but It's too hard for me to see the moves or even specially the threats across the boards.... you should really not look at queen at first... it helps you to understand when you see pieces with more specific moves like horses it's L ... rook always a line.... bishop it's diagonal and this is amazing cuz bishop diagonal on same reality is same color but across the boards the diagonal change they color each board they cross.... so many mind blows.... I got that make moves across boards it's a balance move cuz both player must execute not only one or they stuck boards so the enemy can't pushing back if I dont move across anymore so it forces foward but at the same time it doesn't look limited to 5 dimensional it can have lot of and get more and more confuse for me.... xD the check on 42minutes it's for the diagonal for that queen... so to block it you need to stop a piece infront of the queen on right square across the boards and not exactly where you get a check and not exactly on where the queen is cuz this is useless since she is doing a check across the boards.... xD i like to think at this chess but i can't really talk to hikaru or anna the big brains that can solve those kind of stuffs... ahahahaha but i think i could make them understand a bit ... the activation tho still didn't got by their plays... hmmm missing the way exactly the rule "present" works

[@kekwe3088]

Does Kevin know about this?

[@jellyfish0311]

I see no problem with this, RT is basically Kevin from another timeline

[@shantoreywilkins651]

#3dchess #5dchess

[@DiamondsAreForeverLOLcheeseBUR]

why

[@ESSARGEE]

Chess2hard

[@alohatigers1199]

You know the saying: If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. So whoever this developer making this game, you thought you can make chess better but in reality, you broke chess. It’s unplayable now.

[@spelcheak]

Nice to see her play with her boyfriend finally.

[@zs103]

wrong Irishman she's dating CallMeKevin

[@spelcheak]

@@zs103 No you're think of Rumble Tumble Gamer, easy mistake.

[@zs103]

is this a "RT = Kevin" joke I didn't understand?

[@sandal1128]

@@zs103 Yes but it isn't a joke

[@still_your_zelda]

She played Among Us with Kevin though 😂