RTX 4000 series on Mobile, stuttering, do not buy until fixed (if it ever will be fixed)

[@djnfinity5601]

Now after months I finally had the idea to deactivate HAGS (Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling) and I couldn't believe my eyes. Everything runs incredibly smooth and the micro stutters are gone.

[@PratikSarkar]

Recently bought a rtx 4060 laptop. It has some unexplained constant framerate spike every 3 to 4 seconds interval and happens for every game or gpu involved applications. It fixes when i sign out and sign in again but occurs again after 30 or 40 mins of gaming. Have a 30 series laptop which has frametime smooth as butter. This one i bought from Amazon and they are not accepting the return of the laptop. Now I'm stuck with it.

[@MyThingsRedux]

I thought it may also be the lower power limit of laptops like the ROG Z13, but I don't think it is. It's probably the memory bus width, or simply something novel to this 4000 series of which we are unaware. In a live stream reviewing the Aorus 7 4060 laptop (100w GPU), GizmoTechSlip mentioned it when testing a few games. That's the only time its been mentioned by a mainstream reviewer. He didn't know what caused it. I'm tempted to go for a 3080ti laptop from 2022, they're the same price now as a 4060 from this last year... or could wait for 5000 series only to find they still have this major issues. I hate stuttering, it ruins the games.

[@danishblunt9698]

I still think it's due to powerlimit and borked vBIOS that probably isnt going to get fixed. If it was only due to memory bus, why would RTX 4090 notebooks also stutter? It's a mess.

[@MyThingsRedux]

​@@danishblunt9698 I'd like to find out for sure before I buy any new laptop. Others online think it may be an intel CPU problem with combination of P-cores and E-cores messing things up. Maybe see if it occurs on AMD CPU laptops like Asus G14 and Razer Blade 14 which just have a 'straight-8' core setup.

[@Gidrah]

Do you think it is safe to buy a newer 4090 laptop now or would it still be effected by this?

[@djpquickplays1244]

This is not just laptops. Playing with a 4080 recently after using a 7900 XTX I noticed loads of microstutters in games that were not present on the AMD card. I think it is to do with the new power sensing in the connector as it tries to be efficient in delivery, the card can not draw the power it needs. Put my xtx back in and smooth again. I will be sticking with AMD for now.

[@DearPripishchik]

have lenovo legion 16irx8 with rtx 4070 onboard, shadow of the tomb raider goes very smooth, but battlefield 4 stutters all the time, I am so frustrated about it

[@orlandofranconovesterasjr.5548]

Did you keep it?

[@DearPripishchik]

@@orlandofranconovesterasjr.5548 nope, returned

[@ZblockWoW]

I kinda thought I was going crazy until I saw this video. I am super disappointed with my laptop 😒

[@leopreuss511]

The same here with my MSI RTX 4070 for Desktop. Even if i'm running games like 10 years old (ex: Dying Light) I got too much stutters. When you see benchmarks, the card is comparable to a 3080 TI, but in practise it does not runs smooth..I've tried installing Windows 11 from scratch and installing the most recent video drivers and nothing changes. I don't know why this happens and don't know what to do anymore.

[@leopreuss511]

I Solved it by installing nvidia 531.61 driver version. It seems to be a problem with newer drivers.

[@thecinematicconstructor]

i own an asus m16 rtx 4070 and can confirm it has this problem. It stutters in almost aaa games and some fps games. Im thinking of exchanging this laptop for another one using the warranty. I'm jealous of my friend's rtx 3060 legion 5i lmao, it runs smooth on any games.

[@arifbudiman1112]

I had 4060 laptop since last year, at first i thought the intel hybrid cpu caused the stutter but i was wrong. I try to run the game while monitor cpu PL1/PL2 and thermal throttling, even when the cpu throttling wasn't there the game I run still have micro freeze/stutter. I try to blame the game, but then notice it occur on all games i played 🤣 in the end I notice the gpu usage drops when the frametime spikes which cause the stutter and now here I am found this video and wondering when it will ever be fixed...

[@zeroFrequency]

Why haven't I seen this covered by Digital Foundry.

[@danishblunt9698]

As far as I know they really don't care about notebooks, they usually do console or desktop PC's.

[@PETERGREENDAY100]

4070 laptop owner here, it isn’t fixed yet. It doesn’t occur on all games, but it’s frustrating to spend so much on a laptop and not being able to play smoothly 50% of new games. I tried every possible method and nothing worked. If someone finds a solution Please let me know 😭

[@JustifiedJuice]

I thought it was my hardware issues. glad i am not the only one who is experiencing the problem

[@PETERGREENDAY100]

@@JustifiedJuice what games are giving you troubles? For me it’s totally random. Today I bought Horizon forbidden west and it runs absolutely perfect. Meanwhile, a game like Lies of P (which is waaay less demanding than horizon) runs like shit

[@JustifiedJuice]

@@PETERGREENDAY100 sorry for late reply Also just like you it depends on the game. games like titan fall 2, doom eternal, rise of the tomb raider, honkai star rail and hitman 3 runs perfectly without any stutters but games like elden ring and genshin impact is giving me some occasional stutters (i think it's because of the optimisation issue because elden ring developers said that they are still fixing the issues) and there is cod warzone which runs absolutely shit on my laptop.

[@yourfullname701]

i recently purchased a lenovo legion 5i pro with the RTX 4070. i play apex mainly and i did notice the frames dropping lower than i expected but im not a massive gamer so i didnt think too much of it since it still felt pretty smooth to me. i did however have an issue with apex and also elden ring crashing randomly, every time i play. i am about to ship the laptop back to the dealer because of the crashing issue but before seeing this video i almost got them to replace it with the same model. i saw that the dealer i bought this from also has an HP omen 17 with a 3080 but i only ever had a legion gaming laptop that i was very satisfied with, do you think the omen would be a good deal? you mentioned the big reviewers wont mention issues thats why im asking here

[@yourfullname701]

also apex and elden ring are the only games i play btw i didnt try it with other games. i reckon any game i played wouldve crashed

[@danishblunt9698]

It's interesting that some people report crashing similair to when you undervolt your PC to hard. This leads me to believe that this might actually be a powerspike issue or an issue caused by the fact that the voltage arent stable enough on the "garbage" GPU's put into notebooks. The HP omen is pretty good in terms of performance, infact its one of the better notebooks out there, only things you should note is the fact that the display is a bit lacking, it doesnt quite fill the entire sRGB colorspace and is a little dim at "only 350"nits, which should be more than enough for indoor use but if you want to use it outdoor then you got no shot. Also due to HP's performant nature the fan speeds are quite aggressive, so under load it can get quite loud, so noise cancelling headphones are recommended. Speakers are also very weak as well. Overall if all you care about is performance the HP will suit your needs very well. I can also see the Omen is one of the very few notebooks that have a very high TDP on the CPU which would give you excellent performance in apex, as apex is very CPU bound.

[@yourfullname701]

​@@danishblunt9698 Thanks for the quick and detailed reply man i appreciate it a lot since i have to ship my laptop back soon.

[@orlandofranconovesterasjr.5548]

Did you end up getting the Omen? Or which options did you with after returning?

[@user_87342]

Bro please reply...i really want to buy rog 7 ultimate but just reading the comments and reviews about rog phones its really make me stresssss ! 😂...cant imagine if i buy one and facing any problem that i havent faced bfore...i always buy samsung galaxy S now im using s22u ..really great phone for everything ! Playing cod for few hours very less heat ! So i dont buy rog 7 ultimate i will buy s23u...rog 7 ultimate is a great gaming phone but i want to use it for atleast 4 years..its expensive

[@sixdaysontherun]

I have this on my new g16 rog strix 13980hx 4080 12gb runs pants :( 2 grand laptop is as good as a door stop 😢😢 found no way of fixing this either 😢😢

[@Druhin-yt]

The problem can very well be the E cores on the intel prosessor. windows sceduling is not working well for games. Try disabling the E cores and run your games from the preformance cores only. this worked for me.

[@sixdaysontherun]

@@Druhin-yt thanks for the info still playing up only fix at the moment is to limit fixed rate to 125 fps and disabled all dllss and use amd 3.0 or super that seems to work other then that if not custom refresh is set it stutters again with those settings too don't make any sense lol

[@user_87342]

BRO I JUST BOUGHT ROG 6D BATMAN EDITION...6D IS GOOD NOT WORSE LIKE 6 RIGHT ?

[@siyzerix]

rtx 4000 is a joke on laptops. 4070 in particular is a joke. Desktop 4070 rarely goes above 180w and when limited to 140w, barely loses any perf. So, desktop 4070 put into laptops with 140w TDP would've been 30-40% faster with 50% more vram. YET, this didn't happen. Why? So nvidia could sell you a glorified, voltage limited 4060ti for xx70 prices. 1070 and 2070/super were the same chip as desktop versions and performed similarly. 3070ti mobile was also close to the desktop 3070ti despite being a 3070 desktop chip. Big youtubers give complete crap advice. And still don't raise issue with nvidia lowering the TDP from 200w to 175w, etc.

[@hritikbansal7997]

Is it fixed now?

[@danishblunt9698]

Looks like its a hardware issue unfortunately

[@mnozx1]

Its to late for my watch my last video stutter in evry game

[@danishblunt9698]

Did you return your RTX 4000 notebook? I'd love more videos out there demonstrating the problem, it's kinda sad that most people just instantly return it instead of recording and spreading the issue, as mentioned not all games stutter only vram heavy ones, which will be the norm soonish.

[@mnozx1]

@@danishblunt9698 not yet still have it i want to keep it i am into fps games i dont face alot of stutter exept overwatch and when i restart the laptop the problem is gone i dont know if my problem diffrence is it with ram or power to gpu i read some reddit they say the stutter from hx cpu yeah and i play some hogwart its stutter unless i go for high setting its become playpal

[@danishblunt9698]

@@mnozx1 Do you play rainbow six siege? From what I have seen the game also stutters.

[@zssr]

Didn't expect too much from mobile cards

[@danishblunt9698]

I mean I don't expect them to be some desktop tier cards, but at the very least it shouldnt stutter. RTX 3000 series didnt stutter unless severely hard capped in power budget, this gen seems to stutter no matter what version you buy. It just saddens me to see how tech is downspiraling.

[@jango580]

hello danish anant here plz help me bro i have my asus rog 3 with me and suddenly the screen goes blackout while listening to music everything is working and even some lines appeared but i had run the test and everything came to be normal i checked it by putting the device into safe mode and everything wass allright but as soon as i restart my device again it balcks out for sometime then returns back help me what should i do

[@jango580]

bro can u plz help me put kernel on mya sus rog 3 as i dont have much knowledge about custom roms and your video doesnt provide much depth for solution