RTX 5090 - Absolutely Dapper In a Mini-iTX Case (Dan A4 H2o)

[@techyescity]

This video is a little late, my main SSD just clonked outin a case transfer (guessing the heatsink on the b650i night devil didn't contact the m.2 controller properly when I was first configuring the pc). Anyhow review should be right on time!

[@tkpenalty]

my SSD died as well last night, wow

[@VoxelUsagiVT]

i keep mine updated

[@dianaalyssa8726]

My worst m.2 story literally had one come lose from tape, Windows didn't run well surprisingly the Debian nvme ran like a champ despite things xd. Bought a bunch of m.2 screws once I saw what it was. There's an aliexpress sale that hit on the 20th still up, coupon code.

[@Cpt_Wolf]

The amount of heat dumped in to that mITX case. OMG

[@brutalwang4106]

Yeah, good luck to that pc. 600 watts into that tiny space 😂

[@emperorSbraz]

just leave the side open, 90s style. :)

[@peterpain6625]

@@brutalwang4106 It has a 1200W ps i think. So it'll probably be a decent space heater ;)

[@peterpain6625]

@@emperorSbraz and put it in front of the ac ;)

[@jonathanryan9946]

This is what I came on here to say

[@dionelr]

Tech Yes City- Always teetering on the edge of what's allowed. Keep pushing the boundaries.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

Is this the birth of the ultimate Tech YES Mini?

[@techyescity]

tis

[@dolpoof2335]

Bigger than micro at least.

[@TriPBOOMER]

More Dev Tool Content! 🍿🍿😂 Making sure that PCIE connector isn't plugged in!... Nicely played! Oh you said it! 😂😂

[@Phaevryn]

Banana for scale. As it should be.

[@Just-An-Average-Guy]

it should be the default measurement unit

[@BavTacUK]

You will love dull men’s club….

[@Safetytrousers]

In Spain they have small bananas. So not a universally good measure.

[@Crovon1]

I currently have this case (A4-H20) - my biggest annoyance with it is the lack of cable management. There are areas of the case where, if they just added an extra 10-15 mm in the dimensions, it would make it so much more adaptable - I'm about to switch to a Jonsbo Z20 MATX case for this reason - and the extra cooling!

[@peterpain6625]

Looking forward for the benchmarks on that one. Hope you don't get heatstroke when testing ;) Thanks for sharing. That's exactly what i wanted to know. "Does it fit in a A4 H2O?!".

[@CrimeMiz]

The A4 H2O is in my opinion hands down the best ITX case that is widely available and compatible with very good cooling capability.

[@jakehutchens]

Love the A4-H2O! I run two myself, and they make for incredibly clean blackout + RGB sleeper builds.

[@anti-youtubersgaming4572]

Mom BRYAN is again comparing our fruits with his computors. Mom: BRYYAAAANNNNNN....

[@pctechloonie]

Would be great if you could try these in the coming weeks: 1. Power limiting card to 60-80% - Reason: it's easier to power limit than undervolt 2. Frame capped in very high FPS titles - Reason: Blackwell has some very interesting Max-Q technologies which could slash power draw here. 3. What happens to power draw when you hit a CPU bottleneck? - Reason: Above^ 4. Test power draw in different games - Reason: With 40 series power draw varied a ton, just see Eurogamer's 4090 review, the gap is HUGE. From racing games with usually low power draw to Cyberpunk with RT and path traced games with high power draw. 5. 8K gaming in older titles - Reason: Want to see how well it fares against a 4090 6. DLDSR and DLSS testing at 4K - Reason = the image clarity is insane and fixes the TAA blurry mess presentation and would be interesting to see how well the card handles this.

[@TriPBOOMER]

Bro's been playing ''pin the DP on the 5090!'' 😂😂 got some kerbing issues there bro! 🤣🤣

[@techyescity]

Oh man I had to pull it out a few times, and the DP is actually reversed on this GPU vs basically all other GPUs, so it hits the bracket when trying to plug in dp plugs. Really unusual and not the Dan A4's fault as they would have no idea this would happen too haha.

[@peterpain6625]

@@techyescity And i though i was seeing things ;) I wonder if the non founders edition also have the DP reversed...

[@TriPBOOMER]

@@techyescity It's all good bro, I couldn't help myself from pulling on you a little for it...😂 Maybe also possibly not the best finish for that part of the GPU. 🤔😂

[@sergiomarroquinjr3587]

Nice detail in your build, I like that a lot!

[@akshay7530]

Any chance of getting the temps in this case this week? This is very much what I wanted to build (provided I even get the card)

[@keliangchan]

I wanna see 5090 inside the fractal design ridge or nr 200(p, but not v2 not max, the heat that this beast creates will burn other parts such as psu, cpu, mobo, ram ,m.2 ssd, etc...), thnx

[@clymer006]

So now that reviews are allowed can you plug it in and give us the temps please.

[@ab_hu]

I have the exact same case and would love if you could share CPU temps with this configuration!

[@austintse5719]

The thermals will be interesting. I want to get one but I am worried about the power connector after the 4090 issues with it.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

I worry about the heat also. The power connector here from other unboxing videos looks more flexible less stiff. Have a 4090 FE open case in 7000D Airflow it's chonky (had 7900XTX Merc310 in before that) there's also a difference in a plastic panel vs a glass one, seemed obvious when you don't have enough comfortable clearance to consider throwing on a glass panel after building. Some psu manufacturers will also sell 12VHPWR direct, thing is once you're built it's a bit late. The adapters work but they are chonky and unsightly. At least the new version looks more flexible by the cable 8pin bends on the adapter.

[@stevenwilliams6638]

I’m thinking cases like the Fractal ridge , will be amazing with this style of cooler. Looking forward to see what these cards can do.

[@Willbme4EVA]

I find the limp noodle power connector to be perhaps a good solution, but it does seem to be a good 6 inches short. Will be looking forward to your review of that Beast. Totally stoked Nvidia hooked you up. Fingers crossed you have the best of the best. Cheers!!!

[@andyshtroymish4997]

That's something truly next-gen right here, wireless 12vHighPWR and PCI-E connectivity 😂

[@XxNewmilleniumxX]

And let the mini cube cases begin.

[@0o9ijnbhytgr]

love the groovy outro music!

[@fruitcake4910]

I wonder how thermals compare with and without standoffs for the GPU riser slot.

[@fruitcake4910]

A Fractal Ridge might be a better choice but then it’s CPU cooler compatibility is poor.

[@johnbowyer9815]

575 watts in a mini, Odds are its going to run at temps that are not ideal "At Best"

[@saberspecter]

This build is going to be amazing. Would love an ITX build but the cost right now. The best I could do would be to order a Jonsbo Z20 with my current mATX system.

[@DragonBane299]

Bought two of those b650i. Bryan, you got extremely lucky with your board. One board I had refused to go above 5600mhz cl36, and the other was able to clock 6000 but at cl34, so not much better. At one point the board refused to even boot into the bios, and required a bios reset everytime I wanted to change something in the BIOS, a complete disaster. Ended up slapping some cheap and slow 5200mhz ram and calling it a day

[@marekreznicek6075]

gongrats on being among the :elite: receiving the review 5090 :) will be looking forward for Your test results in Your SFF build ...also looking at the HiTech one Optimal is doing :) U Ozzies are usually technically TopNotch! ;)

[@ripcord895]

I love how you push the NDA to the limit, way to go Brian.

[@tadejpeckaj1151]

I have this case with undervolted r9 7950x and rx7900 xtx. Great little monster ❤

[@PiotrBarcz]

What's that little suitcase handled case? I wonder if it could fit an RTX 3060 ti inside?

[@quantumjank3091]

Will be back for when the full reviews drop just wanted to shout out I haven't heard the term "Dapper" in awhile I'm going to try bring it back!

[@Max_Flashheart]

Great video and now this is an option

[@nickus9119]

Flipping the FE5090 upside down with a longer riser so that it is blowing outwards is a configuration I am curious about. Would need some case modding to fasten the card though. Or some modder trying to reverse the card fans for sucking instead blower configuration… Optimum techs approach to 3D print an exhaust duct towards the case bottom is interessting as well.. I wonder which option gets best thermal results, or maybe no mod needed just undervolting does the job. We‘ll see soon!

[@garetts21]

Unfortunately, the way it’s designed for most ITX cases. The fans are blowing the 575 W into the case that’s not gonna work out well if there was someway to flip that around via the riser cable, I would definitely look into that cheers.

[@zoomzabba452]

Flow through in the H2O is why I put the PSU fan facing IN. More extraction when the system is under load.

[@salteveline]

5090 FE is SMOL 😮

[@FaceGameFps]

Great job Brian❤

[@frati80]

A4H2O for water and Formd T1 for air are my favourite cases so far.

[@nosajmartinez6175]

Build looks great, but not sure how you get up to 575 watts of heat out of sandwich style cases unless heavily power limiting and undervolting with the pass thru cooler design.

[@PerJohansson-Xeizo]

It's uncanny to see ALL the Techtubers gets their samples while in practicality almost no-one will be able to buy one, makes you wonder what's the point if there is one

[@nukedathlonman]

Well, your point of building such a mini is why I generally avoid the super small form factor. That said, it is nice to see smaller cards come in on the high end, and not just for small factor builds - just think of all the slots that will once again be accessible on a regular sized ATX board.

[@bigpoppa1234]

The vast majority of these tiny youtube builds are just that, builds for youtube, instagram, tik tok etc. Very few people actually have a requirement that they need a very powerful gaming PC AND that the PC has to be in a tiny form factor.

[@nukedathlonman]

@@bigpoppa1234 I understand that - portability is a very handy feature (I had a nice system 20 years ago that was nicknamed "[Redacted]'s Notebook" I'd haul around to LAN Parties - the tower was a full sized (a green Chenming/Chieftec Dragon), not exactly "portable" given how much space it alone required) Cheers! 🍻👍

[@EnzoGorlomi7]

Get the formd t1. Smaller than the dan a4 and fits the 4090 fe, so will fit the 5090 fe and you can use a 240aio. Highly recommend the VIDA 240 SLIM aio from silverstone with noctua fans in the formd t1.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

NGL I'm tempted to throw one in a spare unused Q5 case I have around. I'm an odd duck where I have an itx(/ac) board from an old build but no itx cases to put it in. 4090 FE is a huge behemoth whereas the 5090 FE can fit in smaller builds, as long as it can disipate heat okay it's all fine.

[@MrAnimescrazy]

I cant wait for the 5090 vs the 4090 raster, dlss, raytracing benchmarks.

[@RemusKingOfRome]

OVEN ! Cooker ! comes with free fry pan ! :D

[@scubasteve5659]

dude i like this new card, ive been thinking about breaking out my old ghost s1 and doing a new build in it....that dan case i like better because the usb port in the front that things really useful

[@alexmiller6534]

it will just coock itself and the entire build with it with those 575 watts of pure juice in that shoe box

[@black7rc720]

Cool. Where do I buy this 2 slot card in Australia?

[@GiovanniGiorgio2024]

Create a tech KZbin channel. Get to 200K or so subs. They will send you one for free. That is your only chance to get one is this country

[@black7rc720]

13:04 So Brian is omitting availability details? Never mentioned it here?

[@xkadoosh1308]

I think I had a faulty adapter, thankfully, you identified it in my build

[@Columbus666]

Can you tell us what kind of test you are going to carry out? List of games and better, if you are going to do tests on more professional software? As the card is not only intended for video games even if I understand that it takes a long time to do a very complete test. This is something that I personally look forward to. (3D rendering, video) And for the case are you going to keep the ITX format for the thermal tests?

[@rakeshzSpace]

The amount of heat that pushes through though! uffff (I am sweating just by looking at it)

[@nickus9119]

Only two slots thick!!! 😮 OMG it‘s a FLOUNDERS EDITION!

[@kastrat0r]

I have an a4 h2o too and I want to try 5090fe too :) Im only afraid about a lot of heat now pushes RIGHT at the backplate of motherboard, is it safe for it?

[@chrisbullock6477]

What's weird is why did all the other companies make much more beefier cards if supposedly the card doesn't have cooling problems?🤔

[@ShampooTime]

do you know if it'll fit the fractal terra case?

[@meganjay30]

lol I'm watching your video here right now with an Ali Express motherboard, seems reliable so far, been about roughly 6 months.. Those mini PC's are awesome but i couldn't be bothered building one lol... awesome videos!! My home built PC i have here is just a B550M, a AMD 3600X, a 1660TI, a 4 fan case, 32gb of 3200mhz RAM, a 720W MSI PSU, a samsung 512GB M.2 SSD, a 256GB SATA SSD, a 2TB SATA optical HDD and it rates as a 76% PC on PCGameBenchmark_Detector.. Good enough for me.

[@h8m3h]

In my opinion sandwich-style cases are an overkill for 5090 flow-through, even with standoffs and good airflow. Something slightly larger like Jonsbo Z20 should be amazing though

[@mr.alkenly889]

honestly I think watercooling a GPU is almost a must if you have one of those big cards

[@Safetytrousers]

The bigger they are the slower they can run the fans. There is no point getting a big card and taking the cooler off.

[@Sergey_Boss_27]

Oh, Brian, hello. Well assembled, 600 W of heat is blown straight into the case, a good pressure cooker will turn out, it was logical to put a video card so that the 600 W was not inside. The main thing is beauty, oh show me I want to see how the processor, memory and SSD are fried! Show me!

[@chrisbullock6477]

Upside down PCI Connector?😅

[@investit4]

Will there be a classic pcb (new) gpu for PC's this year? (not something that looks like it's pulled out of a laptop , and adapted with extra pcb to fit a pciexpress of a desktop.).

[@sierra5065]

Nvidia making a full pass through cooler is genius. Blocking the back of a pass though cooler with the motherboard and psu...not so much

[@BonusCrook]

Have you been gaming on it or can you not do that without the game drivers?

[@lenardgor]

OMG thats my case. 😊 I currently have a rx7900xt hellhound in it. Super exited how a 5090 would work temp. wise in it. Considering you can leave a gap behind the card because its 2 slot and not 3 slot, wondering if thats enough or if it will just heat everythin up in thise case. EDIT: could you test the turbulence noise if the side panel is on. My gpu sits like 2 mm from the panel and its just loud.

[@vincentvega3093]

Going even smaller with the Louqe Ghost S1 mark III 😮

[@ivan-j4l9x]

What is the next smallest card? I need it to fit in my nr200p max. My 4090 aib card only just fits.

[@Tech2C]

Probably MSI Ventus. I have the same case and my Ventus 4090 fits fine.

[@Kapono5150]

575 watts on a 2 twig cooler. I’m curious to learn how loud this card is

[@Safetytrousers]

There are two really carefukl details on the cooler. The scalopped fan outers and the fact that the side fins have 52 differently shaped tapering shapes requiring 52 shapers in the factory.

[@mikewilson436]

I love it when everybody's raving about the eco-friendly case.... I bet if it was covered in giant panda skin you still would have reviewed it

[@Safetytrousers]

Of course they would review a 5090 no matter if it came in oodles of plastic. But the fact it is totally eco friendly is worthy of note.

[@mikewilson436]

So would I, that is as long as it didn't smell too bad when it got hot

[@Tech2C]

I had this case with a 4090, but the 4090 throttled badly with over heating. Good luck with even more power...

[@techyescity]

Which 4090? founders? If so half the airflow would be just choked completely yeah?

[@Tech2C]

@@techyescity MSI Ventus. Cheers!

[@Safetytrousers]

There's a slot of extra breathing room for the 5090Fe. And it likes being close to the edge. the air is meant to bounce back off a close surface back into it.

[@kopasz777]

You could test PCIe 4.0 vs 5.0. Might be OK to just get a gen4 riser cable. (I assume it is)

[@Safetytrousers]

If it's x16 it should make no difference.

[@zarkov2324]

awesome, can't wait to get one down under 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Kraaketaer]

Yeah, that's going to be cooking itself. Even with that "free" slot behind it, that will be very severely limiting the effectiveness of that flow-through cooler, which is entirely reliant on unrestricted exhaust airflow to work. And of course you have the two equally terrible options of either running your AIO as an exhaust, pulling in all that gpu heat into the rad, or as an intake, fighting the GPU exhaust for that extremely limited space for airflow. I mean, it'll be interesting to see how the build comes out, and I really appreciate the effort of getting high performance into a small form factor, but you've got an underclock coming in your near future.

[@prashantgupta1908]

Try the Formd t1 case, it's the best itx case.

[@PiotrBarcz]

Also stupid expensive

[@beRezeh]

i dont want a 5090 but good to see i can get a small 5070 or 5080

[@MoltenPie]

I have a 5L itx build and I considered an upgrade from my 4070 super. unfortunately rtx 5000 series doesn't provide an upgrade in both vram capacity and performance for my form factor. there was a single 5070ti rumored that would fit but inno3d clarified that only regular 5070 will receive a x2 design. rtx 5000 brings nothing exciting if you are limited to 250mm length and 2 slots

[@peterpain6625]

5070/80 will probably fine for "almost everything" anyways. I can't even get my 4090 to use 100% in games. Pity they're so cheap on the memory :(

[@beRezeh]

@ i have a lian li o11mini so i think most cards will be fine i just dont want a large card

[@samgao]

Dang. 3090 - 4090 is a 56% increase in cuda cores. 4090 to 5090 is 33%. That’ll give a good sense of performance uplift.

[@27schmidty]

Is there anyway we can buy a founders edition in Australia

[@arch1107]

yes, the 30 this month, on stores or online

[@fractalszn]

I thought The embargo was lifted for unboxing not showing it in builds

[@WayStedYou]

It's not in a build its unplugged.

[@Gambit166]

Sure, it fits great inside SFF cases but exhausting all of that heat through the case and fitting a powerful enough PSU for SFF cases will be the problem.

[@bigsky799]

This Lian li case has PCI-e 4.0 riser. Do you replace it?

[@defro125]

No need to, the 4090 didn't get anywhere near to saturating a PCI-e 4.0 connection. It is gonna take a while until we get a GPU that will need 5.0.

[@lewiswright4038]

i have a SF Series SF1000 Fully Modular 80 PLUS Platinum SFX Power in un opened since September will that be enough for my 5090 FE with 5950x going in a NR200 case ?? dont think i can send it back now

[@pewhol5728]

broo, i really beg you but please make a video about esonic motherboard, especially the h110da1, im using it and this motherboard supports 6-9 gen cpu's, i really want to see you review this motherboard

[@khaledelmor5428]

Even if u Undervolted to be -100W it still 475 and still blowing that heat into case and into CPU cooler and MB 🥵 This cooler is good for 350W card max

[@teensuicide9103]

U work at nvidia im guessing

[@foehammerone]

Figure most people who would want these at 2000 dollars are AI dev / hobbyists but for 1000 dollars more you can get a Project Digits dedicated AI box with 128gb of RAM.

[@Jolly-Green-Steve]

Why does a 5090 consume 600 watts when a 2080 TI which is the same 750mm core size only draws 250 watts?

[@WayStedYou]

Clockspeed and higher power draw memory and many billions of more transistors in that same size all mean more power draw

[@teensuicide9103]

32 GB of gddr7 will also increase power draw

[@Jolly-Green-Steve]

@@WayStedYou I think it is mainly from the clock speed I just seen on Tech Power Up that 5090 clock speed is basically double that of 2080 TI. Anything over 300w is insane. Nvidia needs to be on 3nm now it's been out since 2022. If 5090 was on 3nm it would only be 400 watts. They could down clock it a little and lose maybe 10 percent performance and hit 330 watts. That would be the reasonable thing to do. It would still be 95 teraflops and wouldn't murder your power bill and overheat your room.

[@Safetytrousers]

It's rated for 575w, and the 4090 was rated for 450 when it mostly gamed at about 390.

[@Jolly-Green-Steve]

@@Safetytrousers 5090 vs 4090 is 50 percent higher power draw for 25 percent more performance. This is what happens when 2 generations in a row are on 4nm. 3nm has been in high production since late 2022. 2nm production starts this summer. I think the real reason Nvidia isn't getting off 4nm is 1nm production isn't until 2030 and they need slightly better products every year until then.

[@Yuu-oc7ye]

I'm reusing my Ncase m1 on this gpu. ☺️

[@100500daniel]

How are the temps tho

[@arch1107]

gueess when he can answer that question

[@SuperStareGry]

600watt of heat has to go somewhere. The cooler might be efficient at taking heat away from gpu die however the produced heat will be expelled outside. Putting this space heater inside mini itx might be a terrible idea.

[@Safetytrousers]

You never want to bump against the theoretical limit. You always need some headroom. It will never reach 600w.

[@SuperStareGry]

@@Safetytrousers Yes like 4090 could never reach 500watt while often exceeding it. Also there are power spikes which this one will most likely exceed 800watt.

[@Safetytrousers]

@ It cannot draw 800w.

[@Safetytrousers]

@@SuperStareGry You cannot draw 800w on it. And who knows yet how this handles power spikes, what its power stability is?

[@SuperStareGry]

@@Safetytrousers Every card has power spikes no exceptions. Whats alarming its almost 600watt tdp. With power spikes of 30% which is the norm we are getting close to 800watt. I am sure this one will be PSU killer. So what's now 1500watt psu? I would not call this progress and actually a shameful cash grab by little gnome megalomaniac in leather jacket.

[@timestamppatrol]

ur ssd dead? what TBW is has?

[@LiteOS]

Too much hype on paper launch if ask me NVIDIA doesnt make enuf of them, all is just a big show great vid no question about that :)

[@fruitcake4910]

5mm shorter and this behemoth could fit a Dan A4-SFX lol

[@zipdoa]

Yeah, blower style 4090’s fit the Dan A4. Hopefully an aftermarket blower 5090 card will fit!

[@kuyache2]

Sadly there is no 5070 Ti Founders Edition. That Dual Flow Through design can also benefit lower tier cards, the 5080 is rumored to have DFT design. The 5070 FE will stay Single Flow Through. Imagine Yesman's take anywhere PC can now be a 5090 + 9950X3D with max ram and max storage.... Too much power for a portable PC 😅 I would settle for the Yesman's smaller and older travel PC gift it to me asap hahaha 😅

[@yeetus59]

Source?

[@Safetytrousers]

@@yeetus59 The 5070ti is confirmed to be only AIB, no Fe model.

[@elvo6217]

I must say Nvidia really outdid themselves. I'm definitely not fanboy of their business practices but this cooler and design is amazing.. the compact PCB making duel passthrough is amazing skills

[@arch1107]

all it does is pump 600 watts of heat into the cpu cooler the genius part happens when you hear fans spinning fast or when?

[@KelleeBerg]

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[@YurdunEvre]

Looking for a presale with strong fundamentals? Adaxum is delivering on all fronts!

[@ImportRace]

Nice

[@Mr.maffii]

Make the video of that SSD that died

[@GiovanniGiorgio2024]

Sadly, we are not getting this one in Australia. Damn you Nvidia

[@Skobeloff...]

Australian ones will be packed in styrofoam left over from mcdonalds

[@GiovanniGiorgio2024]

@@Skobeloff... 😂 We are always at the bottom of the barrel

[@basook6116]

if people have 4090, not alot of people would buy RTX 5090 for over $2K USD