Ruby Franke & Jodi Hildebrandt Sentencing: Behavior and Body Language

[@deborah3912]

Who is worse, Franke or Hildebrandt? How could a mother watch her children being tortured? People that followed Franke on YT were commenting on her awful discipline of her children before she met Hildebrandt. They are both evil women.

[@Djbetterjusthavingfun]

Hildebrandt because she teaches and practices this, Franke not far behind because she believed and executed this.

[@catwrangla9027]

I've wondered the same thing when seeing videos of Middle Eastern women allowing a small child be dressed in a bomb suit and praising Allah for allowing their child to attack the enemy. Or women who sell their kids to other adults for sick pleasures.

[@paulad3261]

Yes!!!!!!!!

[@justkiddin84]

Equal, in this case. However, as Adam Paul stated, there are many more victims out there from Jodi.

[@AmandaPaige71]

They're both the same amount of evil to me. Ruby was bad before she met Jodi. Jodi just fueled the fire of abuse of those kids, sadly.

[@originalsixx]

Ruby was abusing her kids long before Jody came along! 😡 Throw away the key! They should have arrested her husband too.

[@ToyotaGuy1971]

Why her husbund, she was probably abusing and controlling him, too. If women can have battered wife syndrome, why can't men have abused husbund syndrome. because there're sexist-double-standards for men and women, aren't there?

[@Spook2431NYC]

She's crying over life she enjoyed living at expense & physical/emotional damaged 2 innocent children..cry me a river & shut the cell door.

[@kiskakuznetsova503]

I saw photos of her home and WOW! She paid for that house off the backs of children. I know the standard of living in Utah is higher than back east but, I feel as if someone would have to be delusional to do her kind of work and think it was appropriate to come home to that sort of ... opulence.

[@KristieDS]

She ruined MORE lives than those children’s….sadly.

[@Spook2431NYC]

@@KristieDS Amen 💯 %

[@knielson1201]

Her "counseling" tore apart countless families who needed real help -- and believed her harsh, abusive advise

[@Spook2431NYC]

I wonder if R & J victims cn file civil suit against them & their assets/estates after the verdicts...I hope they take everything...the medical&psychology therapy they will need will be 4 years!

[@alican5695]

“Mama duck leading you to safety”? You can’t be serious. How about a narcissistic, selfish psychopath who has not and never will change. There is zero accountability. Disgusting.

[@Willie-x4u]

It's the way doj cannot able to say life without ever getting out .

I Don’t think she is a psychophath cause they often are indifferent of the pain of others. She clearly enjoyed letting them suffer to have absolute control. To me it seems she suffers from a sadistic personally disorder. And she did that long before Jodi came along. They both should be charged with attempted murder.

[@urdadshusband781]

30 years LOL

[@kaydee4296]

Ruby "Thanked" everyone like she was accepting a damn Emmy award. NO APOLOGIES TO HER BABIES! It was ALL about HER! "ME, ME, ME, I ,I ,I" 😈

[@justkiddin84]

Exactly. Ruby is still Ruby. Manipulative, sadistic, cruel, and awful.

[@AmandaPaige71]

I was going to say the same thing about her Emmy Award speech for everyone!! Ugh she makes me sick with her disgusting and disturbing behavior. I really hope the parole board doesn't buy her bs when it's time. SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THEIR MOTHER!!!

[@Jade_902]

At the very end, she did acknowledge and apologize to her children. However, I do not think she’s remorseful at all.

[@babybeasimplekindofvan7035]

She actually did talk about her babies

[@georgewashington3555]

I hope there is prison justice for these 2 every day of their stay.

[@3catmom844]

All I heard her say was that she blamed Hildebrandt for everything. UGH! Go to jail, directly to jail do not pass go. I have no sympathy!

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

She was NOT sentenced to jail.

[@marianasantos1336]

Crocodile tears and self serving blather. Ruby still hasn't taken true accountability. Jodi is beyond any hope for rehabilitation. She'd pick up right where she left off if given half a chance.

[@beany530]

Love the word blather!

[@hivemindconcussion2173]

🎯

[@icebergrose8955]

I heard excuses like she's a teenager lead astray. She was their mother. I also saw a mean streak long before Jodie showed up. Sorry not sorry.

[@mirzamay]

Yeah, Jodi left the chat a LONG time ago. I think Ruby would have continued to be just an ordinary terrible mother without Jodi, she is right about that. She does have a modicum of some protective instincts, but they don't kick in until , well I'm not sure they ever kick in. You know what, strike that. There's nothing ordinary about her mothering at all, terrible or not.

[@suepeachey1730]

Yes I agree.

[@Catinthedesert]

Wanting to “reconcile” and “rebuild” her relationships with her victims is WAY creepy. She should have a permanent lifelong restraining order protecting the victims.

[@statusdisarray9598]

She absolutely shouldn’t be allowed near any children or vulnerable adults ever again.

[@tcoleman8665]

ZERO CONTACT with ANY Of the Franke family. PERIOD. EVIL

[@JessicaFerri-um4hf]

I agree

[@Catinthedesert]

Actually the grandparents (LDS) wrote a sick letter to the parole board stating that they are looking forward to HER rehabilitation and reconciliation with HER kids. Glad they got the warning. We can assume they will stay inside until the victims are adults and have permanent no contact injunction. They want everything to LOOK normal again. Scary family.

[@lamesafilipinofoodclub6202]

Jodi just looked like she still cannot believe she was caught and that the church hasnt bailed her out yet

[@melissamanick4392]

Totally agree!

[@donnaroo8042]

The primary emotion I've seen in her court appearances is bewilderment, along with the fear.

[@petpilgrimgoose]

agree.

[@rjensen2586]

As well as anger and disgust.

[@stacy6994]

As a mormon why would the church bail her out? I find your type of comments disgusting. Because you believe all mormons like run around abusing our kids and having like our prophet bail us out. How stupid does that sound?

[@juanitacarter4785]

It made me sick that she plead guilty to kicking her kids with boots on, smothering them until they almost or did pass out, eating food in front of them while they starved. Sick women

[@jeanieq6153]

Ruby’s husband should have been charged too. The crazy didn’t start with Jodie. It was obvious on her KZbin channel. He hadn’t seen the children and wasn’t looking for them. He was on camera with her and was there when the checks were cashed.

[@cautionTosser]

exactly. why does he get a free pass? Is neglect better than abuse? Or turning a blind eye? He had a responsibility as a father and he totally let those kids down.

[@petpilgrimgoose]

@jeanieq6153, Absolutely.

[@nesletchimaew9209]

have you not been paying attention? The husband had no idea. He had not seen ruby for 13 months before the arrest as part of jodis family destruction therapy

[@nesletchimaew9209]

​@@cautionTossercheck out the full story on true crime loser

[@jeanieq6153]

@@nesletchimaew9209 I have paid attention. I just have a different perspective than you. I don’t believe a thing he says. A father should have made it his business to ensure his children’s safety. He reappeared when he wanted his daughter arrested for theft and was angry when the police refused as she had done nothing illegal. He and Ruby had the same parenting styles. Jodi only upped the ante. That said I hope he gets help and can responsibly parent his children. They’ve already lost their mother. Thanks for your response.

[@Catinthedesert]

She is simultaneously blaming someone else and embracing her self delusion of loving motherhood. It’s just narcissistic delusion.

[@gotlandia1588]

The children were hidden when people came to visit? Both of them absolutely knew what they did was wrong!

[@Sirindol]

What i understand is "they knew the world will think they do wrong things but they actually do good, the world just dont understand", and im sure they still do feel like this, they are just freaking brainwashed narcisstic self-called gods.

[@joannepackus5736]

It was so sickening to see them doing their show all beautiful and smiling while they knew the kids were locked up downstairs. That is what both of them deserving of a very long jail term. Narcissists of this level just do not change. The courts will do right by the children by making it so they never have to see these two demonic women ever again.

[@lisaiurilli5145]

They should NEVER get out of jail.😡

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

They were never sentenced to jail.

[@gtaylor6937]

Wow, when your attorney tells the judge he knows whatever you say may sound "hollow and self-serving", but in truth he knows you're sincere, you're so screwed.

[@marge9563]

And indeed it did sound "hollow and self-serving"

[@nightwithout-stars1951]

Yeah, it sounds like the lawyer advised her to show contrition and she refused. Dumb move on her part, but it’s good overall because hopefully she’ll serve more time due to parole boards not being sympathetic

[@teresawood6830]

@@nightwithout-stars1951 One of my concerns is that this parole board in Utah may be made up of Mormons fed some of the same beliefs about children being responsible for their actions almost from birth, intense focus on sexuality and women in sleeveless blouses is pornography. Possibly includes church leaders that paid Jodi and recommended her to many Mormon families.

[@mizmo2431]

Since the Morman Church referred countless clients to her over the years, when will the church come forward to denounce these tactics????

[@fionabell2931]

I wouldn't hold my breath.

[@ldeen7897]

It will take a long time. I personally have experience

[@lorrainedewaal3838]

Never. They do no wrong and can’t admit to ANY wrongdoing!

[@jnicole2440]

I'm sure they're involved in this trial as well. Judge could even be Mormon

[@margaretsnewtoylynnparks5336]

They like their secrets. They need WOMEM to grow their religion. It’s like you see 1 bug in your house. But there are 100’s more you DONT see!

[@Monica-le9oi]

She abused these kids well before JH came into the picture. She had a YT channel chronicling it. How can she pass this all off as only due to 7:14 Jody’s influence? People were calling CPS well before Jody.

[@Nannygoat-h8o]

It's called a good lawyer...Lol😂

[@mariee.5912]

​@user-du3dz9rt1w it's not a good lawyer. It's about denial. Or did you get convince.

[@Nannygoat-h8o]

Her lawyer dictated everything she stated throughout the hearing and made sure nothing else that happened before came into these hearings. So yeah...she had a good lawyer. I never stated I thought she was not guilty. Don't make ASSumptions.

[@everrgreen122]

Exactly! I was almost screaming this at my screen, that’s how annoyed I am with her _still_ not taking responsibility. She did however - long before Jodi - make sure that her poor kids constantly had to deal with the consequences she made up to make their lives miserable. Taking away Christmas presents, letting her child sleep on a bean bag (iirc) instead of a bed, starving them because she felt like it, threatening to rip up her small, small child’s stuffed animal and so much more. She’s always been a menace to her children, but I guess blaming it all on Jodi soothes her conscience🤮.

[@DelusionDispeller]

Bingo!

[@ladytarot911]

It was beyond disgusting to hear her say that she was graciously blessing those poor children w/ not taking them through a trial, as if she was doing them a favor. Maybe, before you were caught they would’ve liked to have a favor of idk, maybe NOT BEING TORTURED! ZERO EMPATHY FOR ABUSERS OF THE VOICELESS!! CHILDREN, ELDERLY & ANIMALS! PERIOD!

[@angeladelcid2589]

Agreed. She STILL low-key manipulative by pretty much suggesting she has done the victims a favor by there being no trial...what a piece of work. Her face pisses me off. I believe she thinks she is something extraordinary and special and she is absolutely not

[@denisecahoon9753]

Totally agree

[@linalicious415]

Exactly! Exactly!

[@AnnieBooker]

Considering Ruby said one of her kids was a sex abuser I think she’s as bad as Jodi especially as these were her own children she signed off on letting Jodi abuse.

[@annebalderston2520]

Amen and thank you for including the animals with the other vulnerable victims of abuse.😢💔🙏🏻

[@JustMe-px9qy]

Ruby has arrogantly and proudly been abusing her kids for years. When she was called on it…she acted superior to everyone that pointed out the abuse

[@haintedhouse2990]

yes she looks pleased and amused when her son Chad tells viewers he hasn't slept in a bed for months.

[@JustMe-px9qy]

@@haintedhouse2990 - she did. I hope she hates jail/prison

[@haintedhouse2990]

@@JustMe-px9qy yes and if she misses a meal in prison "hopefully nobody will give her any food"

[@paulahenderson9878]

Jodi is an evil, evil women; however, so is Franke. And Franke birthed these children. So sad.

[@katia7538]

If its a Jodi, it's a criminal !

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

Woman not women.

[@kerrybarrera3410]

Utah now holds responsibility for these crimes. They must sentence both parties to sixty years each. If the state does not, they show complicity in crimes for which the idea of two sides of a story does not exist.The starving and torturing of children are indefensible crimes, which require the full force of the law to be administered.

[@nicoleserenalauer3027]

... and don't forget that "father" who did NOTHING to stop the abuse and torture of his own kids! What a numb coward he is! 🤮

[@nifflofair6685]

Frankie is equally evil.

[@ElizabethJones777]

Ruby has been abusing her kids LONG before she and Jodi partnered up… So evil! Both of them!

[@tandiparent1906]

True....along with the husband. Hopefully he won't regain custody of any of those children.

[@babren932]

No sympathy for either of these evil women. I was waiting for Hildebrant to mention “distortion “.

[@AmandaPaige71]

Me too! Ugh she'll never admit that she's the one who is distorted!

[@ettajfan5882]

Or using her "agency".

[@kellijanssen1171]

Ruby did.

[@catherineann7261]

Thank-you for calling it what it was… torture, not discipline.

[@CraftsandTrueCrimeTracy]

I feel that Franke's statement was more of an "acceptance speech" rather than an apology, as well as it came across very Lori Vallow-esque which is revolting. Hildebrandt is a monster and is delusional thinking the children deserved the treatment they received. I hope they get the maximum sentencing possible. Thanks Dr. G for another great analysis!

[@bjfontana5760]

Agree!

[@JessicaFerri-um4hf]

I watched the bodycam of the initial arrests of Hilderbrant at her home, she sat completely still for over an hour on her couch while cops moved about and the police officer in the same room used his phone half a dozen times on and off. Freakish.

[@abbyk454]

Even in the end Ruby F. Is still manipulating the court. When she thanked everyone and the kitchen sink! Even the prosecutors fell for it. She’s thinking forward on how to get out sooner. I HOPE SHE STAYS IN PRISON FOR THE FULL LENGTH! She was abusing her kids on her channel long before that monster friend. Are into the picture!

[@elliebellie7816]

The prosecutors did not fall for anything. Good grief. They deal with manipulators like Ruby and Jodi every single day. They know the game.

[@jacquelineglitter4328]

She pulled one over on the judge too because he believes it was Jody's fault.

[@wvover8079]

She is acknowedging that these people did the right thing by saving her children from her and jodi... and now that she is away from Jodi and can see more clearly what she actually did, she probably is thanking them for saving her. She is apologizing for not being the mother she should have been... I believe a person can be forgiven.. if not by her kids or family or other people ( part of the consequences for a sinful life), she can be forgiven by God.. I pray that is the case. I also pray that the kids get the best they can get in order to move on with their lives and life it as fully as they can.

[@sharroon7574]

She didn't notice her children crying and bleeding? She didn't realise she hurt her children until she was in jail?

[@erinmich5425]

Both women are fraudsters. Ruby & husband were abusing their children before Jody came into their lives. It just escalated with Jody. Jody should not be allowed internet ability in prison, she still want to counsel family. Does Jody have her license???

[@alanwitonsky]

I honestly think ruby’s husband should also be brought up on charges

[@kiskakuznetsova503]

Does anyone suspect that they were lovers? When they got excited over those stories of humiliating their children, it looked a little ... physical?

[@michellejarrett1826]

No jodi lost her licence when she first went to prison

[@kiskakuznetsova503]

YES! He's clearly been protected by BYU and local LE. It's a great cult! @@alanwitonsky

[@rainingopals1439]

Well jodi also hurt other families directly there's a pattern. Rubi didn't get extreme until jodi was involved. Jodi has been around since Chad lost his bed at least

[@Luciaimparato9390]

My heart is breaking for those six children that had to endure such torture! This reminds me of the case of David and Louise Turpin! And how they abused their 13 children! And how their seventeen year old girl escaped the house and saved everyone! Rubys 12 year old is so brave for escaping and getting help!

[@lifepathnumbernine6607]

We all saw her KZbin videos where she showed signs of being an abusive mother years before she started working with Jodi so she can't blame Jodi for her behavior

[@Mrsarball]

Exactly!! 💯

[@Hillr2249]

No one turned her in?

[@MichelleL98]

​@Hillr2249 I think viewers of the 8passangers youtube channel did report her multiple times but nothing was ever done.

[@Hillr2249]

@@MichelleL98 unreal

[@webuyhouse8917]

Ruby was crazy even before Jodi

[@SunnyDays70s]

Can’t stand Jodi. ‘I sincerely love these children’ - SICK.

[@justkiddin84]

Very much so. And there are many more victims of her out there.

[@rainingopals1439]

The johns Hopkins staff did the same to Maya kowalski after ruining her life. It's the ultimate gaslight.

[@sallyschmitz4817]

AMEN!

[@khakiclare]

like when a paedophile claims their victim somehow 'seduced' them. Same twisted & warped logic.

[@elizabethrodgers8616]

She doesn’t know what “!love “!is.

[@lindavergata8207]

Ruby trying to say she was basically led down a wrong path by Jodi, is obscene!!! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know if your abusing a child

[@fionacullen9228]

So she wasn’t Mom of the year before this was she?Remember how she treated her children on Eight Pasengers!!!!!!!

[@sandrabrislin4526]

Ruby Franke, no mother can be convinced by someone to abuse their kids. You, as a mother had the responsibility to your kids and you CHOOSE abuse. Take responsibility

[@bronaghspillane352]

I am sick of Kevin sitting there which is who I think Ruby keeps looking back at acting as he has no part in this situation. He was a horrible father. He sat back and never did anything. I hope he never gets custody of his children and never gets any money from the lawsuit he is going after. These parents of these children have looked at their children as money makers their whole lives. Their lives have been ruined by their parents. He needs to get off his high horse.

[@PinkyakaAyannaj]

Why is he not charged?

[@Amanda-w4z5k]

💯

[@JessMichael150]

You would enjoy The Dad Challenge Podcast. It's his passion to expose these families, and he called it with 8 Passengers.

[@vanessasimon1643]

It seemed to me like their Dr had made him think he had a problem with porn because he watched porn before. Then told ruby he was sick that anyone who ever watches porn is sick and made him leave the house. The kids never reported the father causing harm. Who knows tho we don't know what happened behind them doors.

[@karencronin9502]

Even the oldest daughter said this. That her father was just as guilty.

[@AwakeLazarus]

What about the abuse she displayed before Jody entered her life?

[@VariationsOnASeam]

That "I sincerely love these children" caused shivers to go up my spine. Neither of these monsters showed any remorse. It was all about themselves and how they are affected. The lawyer's statement seemed more genuine and heartfelt.

[@UC1101]

That was so typical, in front of a judge "my babies, part of me" but how come they were so skinny, hungry, full of wounds, cleaning someone else's house?

[@louesparza8003]

It is important to remember that Ruby abused her kids before Jodi was in the picture. No abuse would have occurred but for the willingness of the mother who was responsible for them. The father also bears the same responsibility.

[@sarahwalley3696]

Part of Ruby's speech felt like an award acceptance to me.

[@artcardswithangela8742]

They are both still in grandiose attitude imho. Hoping the yrs are long for them.

[@thegrassyknoll7792]

Thanks Dr. G for making me better to see the signs in People’s unspoken Words 😊

[@majatylczynska4990]

Ruby takes no responsibility whatsoever for her action! Pure narcissist! She gave an Oscar speech but no one was clapping! Welcome in reality Ruby! Looks like you were living in distortion before! Lock the cell and throw the key!

[@srso4660]

She may not have meant a word she said (we can only speculate) but she did take full responsibility in her statement and even agreed that she should be punished for however many years it takes, for her to pay for her crimes.

[@majatylczynska4990]

@@srso4660 I think she only apologized for any action she took since she met Jody. Like she doesn't see any wrong doing before. I have also been surprised when she show more emotions talking about her husband than what she has done to their kids. But I do respect your opinion.

[@sallyshafer436]

Also, my strong speculation is that they were in a relationship and keeping the lid on that is the primary motivation for avoiding an invasive trial.

[@jillargos7729]

Wasn't she somewhat of an actress? She was supposed to protect her children, and remembering she was used to perform before camera, and she deserves same punishment a Jodi. BOTH women deserve same sentence, and NOT 4 yrs

[@critterscute3642]

Agree. She even said filming was like breathing for her. Her children were nothing more than a means to an end-power, attention and subscribers.

[@justkiddin84]

The full thirty or forty.

[@teresawood6830]

Unfortunately, in Utah it is left totally up to the parole board. The judge did all he could as far as sentencing goes. He could have spoken more harshly about the crimes and damage to the children.

[@nancysimpson9045]

They are convinced of 4 consecutive sentences each 1-15 years but in Utah the maximum is 30 years so realistically they are going to get anywhere between 4-30 years 💕🇦🇺💕

[@Di-yy4bw]

She abused her kids with glee before she met Hildebrand. Disgusting.

[@TreebeardsHome]

What about any other children Jodi worked with over the 15yrs she’s practiced since hurting Jessie? How many families & children did the Morman Church send to her for therapy? Plus, she had an entire organization feeding her more vulnerable children & couples. Ruby’s 2 middle daughters were found being forced to clean a house of the Connextions president. Were more morman children used for forced labor? Where’s the investigation into her practice? Justice is just now coming for the Franke children, what about the hundreds (or more?) of other families over the last 15yrs that the church & Connextions sent to her? What about the people Jessie mentioned that did Jodi’s bidding & sent her back to Jodi for more after she tried to seek out help? There is an organized group of people, in the church, who were also involved. It wasn’t a single family incident. Thank you for your insight. Sadly, I feel there is so much more to do. Hope everyone has a great day.

[@pezlover1974]

I heard one case of a young boy who was sent to sex addict classes with grown men. He was 12-13 years old and had likely only showed a budding interest in girls, like most guys his age. She’s disgraceful and obsessed with idea of all men being sex addicts/evil

[@oliviastar3812]

she's from the Mormon's? No one said that in prev videos seen - or it wasn't explained. that explains much.

[@tandiparent1906]

Have you seen the video that jodi's niece has done along with many of the people who went to her, referred by their church, for couples counseling??

[@JamieHayes6982]

Dr. G she was doing abuse even before she met Jodi so this is ridiculous. She’s not showing any remorse she’s not taking a responsibility and she needs to do a lot more than four years.

[@rosered103]

Hildebrandt is sadistic to her bones.

[@JustMe-px9qy]

Yes. She took pleasure in her abusive behavior.

[@pezlover1974]

I’m so glad her niece is getting the vindication she deserves. Jodi made her out to be a liar when she accused her aunt of the same and was branded a liar. Had Utah listened back then, the Franke case could have been avoided.

[@teresawood6830]

@@pezlover1974 And many other families that were given the same BS and split up by Jodi. I hope more come forward with charges.

[@e.starling141]

She certainly seems to be. I was convinced of this when I saw the Behavior Panel react to a video she and Ruby made where they talked about the emotion anger, and Jodi suddenly lit up with subtle glee when they began talking about it. It was the first time she had a smile on her face the entire video. And I distinctly remember Ruby saying that the idea of embracing anger initially scared her at first, but then Jodi explained to her that anger was necessary (for some bs reason). In that video you could see how much true joy that emotion brought Jodi. And ithe interaction also showed me how much Jodi was leading Ruby. I have no doubt Jodi was her mentor after seeing them interact. Ruby seemed wide eyed and gullible, and Jodi seemed all knowing and confident. It was creepy.

[@rosered103]

@@e.starling141 Really. Isn't that interesting. I will have to check him/her out. My gut told me that when viewing her different pics.

[@claires8735]

Two things stood out to me yesterday when I watched the sentencing. One, Ruby talked about having a "distorted" view. Jodi's big thing is "distortions," so Ruby's language and speech patterns still show Jodi's influence. And, two, it seemed to me that Jodi is irritated and offended at being caught and facing consequences.

[@leahyamazaki5241]

Blaming Jody is bull 💩, they are her children, she is responsible for not protecting them

[@pistachiosandpopcorn7146]

Agreed.

[@Spy-v6z]

Just found ur channel a few videos ago. I love learning about reading body language and there's not a lot of reading material that shows different reactions from the basic leg crossed, smiles, etc and no pictures or 1 picture so it's harder to learn. The fact you relate it to popular and interesting videos and break everything down makes it a lot easier to process in a "real life" setting. Thank u!!

[@janiceplace7519]

Ruby is not sorry ...... her statement is all about herself !! They both are sadist !!

[@margaretberryman6260]

For heaven's sake - Ruby was cruel for many years before Jodi.

[@Kknightstar]

Oof! It’s really hard hard to watch these monsters try to be humans. They are infuriatingly lacking remorse. Thanks Dr G! I always appreciate your take on the crazy!❤

[@popsugar0993]

"Hey Everybody, Dr. Soothe here" ahhh...his voice, so calming!!! 😊

[@Yellowtravelers]

Ruby is used to being on stage. She did have a KZbin channel for years showing her awful self. She was like this before Jody.

[@650AFTERHOURSOC]

Really what did she do on KZbin?

[@lenama9616]

Regarding Ruby, the whole Internet world told her for many years, that she is acting wrong. She never listened. Now when it comes to prison time, she surprisingly understands her faults. Add the fact she basically blames Jodi for her actions that already began before she met Jodi. For me she sounds remorseful,yes but only because of the repercussions. As I mentioned, people (thousands of people!)told her for many many many years, that she is wrong. She couldn't care less. Because there were no consequences. Now with consequences, she understands. For me she is a coward.

[@sandyschneider6792]

It must be a real challenge for court employee’s to stand there & listen to all their manipulative words & BS!🤮

[@mimiz7937]

It's one thing to admit to the abuse, but to blame the other person, especially a child, is sadistic. She's a complete sociopath.

[@lojokes2]

Hildebrandt is definitely a threat to the community. I expect her sentence to be the greater of the two.

[@georgewashington3555]

agree.

[@patriciagriswold6060]

The length of her sentence will be determined by the parole board from what I understand. The fact that Jode takes no accountability will not bode well if she doesn't change her attitude!

[@barbaradonaldson7143]

Jodi will receive the maximum sentence she is a danger to society she'll get 60 years. Ruby probably 10-15 years.

[@sorryNOTsorry11]

I hope not because they were Ruby’s kids not jodis..they both need to rot in prison for alooooooong time or under it…..

[@kellijanssen1171]

They are both monsters imo. Ruby abused her children before ever meeting Jodi.

[@loricooper2450]

Jody's narcissism won't allow her to feel guilty for what she did. She doesn't love anyone, least of all children. Her narcissism does, however, allow her to blame even innocent children for her actions and behavior. Ask Jessie, she knows.

[@missymani]

Unpopular opinion: she truly loves her children but she is too narcissistic and sick to love them properly. Even her old videos where she punishes the kids, she really believes she is being a good mother and she does that to benefit them. This makes her very dangerous because this is how kids end up killed in order to "save them" from a made-up danger.

[@Spook2431NYC]

Dr G How do you tell when someone is faking, giving the judge & esp the cameras what they think they want to hear or see? My gut feeling is she still not taking full responsibility 4 cruel abusing criminal behavior. Still blaming Jodie's influence.

[@SmilingBeaver-ou7nc]

Exactly. I feel Ruby thru Jodie under the bus. She takes zero blame for abusing her own children. Jodie is the same, and when she gets released nothing will have changed. I hope both get 60 years.

[@Orquet-qj2nf]

We saw no trace of remorse in her until she got caught. I heard of a trial where the father left his adopted 2 year old in a hot car while he was at work. He was truly sad and horrified that he did that. He cried "my baby" during the trial, regardless of what was going on. He didn't make any speeches about how he was a great dad except for a mistake. He did nothing to lessen the sentence. With Ruby, she's trying to make herself look good and properly sad during all the right moments. Her lawyer and her are trying to showcase what a sorry person she is and she'll do better, they promise. And yet she still won't talk about her kids and their suffering. She shows know sign of caring about their pain. The father wouldn't stop crying about his baby and gave no sign he noticed the bad things happening to him. Ruby is very aware of the bad things happening to her. Anyone who says, "What I did wasn't that bad because....." is more concerned with avoiding punishment than making things right. Ruby is saying, "What I did wasn't that bad because Jody made me do it."

[@lindaallen4064]

I think she truly is in shock hearing back what she did. At the time she was doing them she believed she was right.

[@Spook2431NYC]

@@SmilingBeaver-ou7nc Amen 💯!

[@Boutys_mom]

I was thinking same.... maybe she says she loves the children based on what she defines love to be? Either way, it's just too difficult for me to even "try" to empathetically understand how anyone can torture any animal or human of any age...

[@Yannispawn]

Ruby told her sister that if she showed remorse she would get probation/parole and get out quickly.

[@shirleymason3853]

I think it’s all about her her and her! Not about her children she’s a monster

[@neilcampbell4931]

The Mormon church is complicit here. Jodi received millions in referrals from the church. What therapist can afford a million dollar home? Harsh discipline is part of church doctrine and practice.

[@melissarobins7073]

4 million dollar home

[@leahyamazaki5241]

Jody is still in complete denial

[@sew161]

She honestly believes she was slaying demons, she was the true demon

[@brendabowers568]

Listening to parts of the trial and now to Dr. G… I still can’t stop the fact that she would not take her six year old food to school and was hoping no one would “give in” and feed her, from popping into my thoughts! And she did many more terrible things. But on such a basic level, that says all I need to hear to know what an evil mom Ruby Franke is. This woman will be lucky if her children ever speak to her again.

[@looking4things669]

Ruby Franke treated her children badly before Jodi Hildebrandt came along.

[@pezlover1974]

As did Kevin. Letting him get off is such a disservice to their children.

[@unhealingwithsandy]

Thank you for taking the time to make this video and sharing your unique perspective on this court video. We miss so much when we are only focused on verbal communication.

[@JanAgardy-ow2rh]

I have seen her videos prior to her interactions with Jodi Hilderbrand & she was already abusing her children with her husband. Ruby didn't come across as contrite, she was trying very hard to come across as the victim. I remember at her first hearing talking about her children being sexually abusive, this woman constantly blames her victims. Now she's also claiming that she wasn't Jodi's business partner but they clearly claimed that they were business partners prior to their arrests. Both of them are evil women but they were each evil in their behavior prior to getting to know each other. Jodie I feel has no hope of changing her mind set, she would go back immediately to abusing others. Ruby might be able to alter her thinking but her ability to abuse her children started prior to Jodie was apparent with her older children.

[@Ariadne76-k3d]

I hate when people call cruelty just a "bad decision "

[@gtaylor6937]

I think Ruby's tears are genuine but they're for the shame she's feeling now that all of her deeds have become public - it's got to be mortifying for her. However I don't think she understands the depth of the emotional and psychic trauma these kids have experienced, and it will take a long time for her to be able to face that, if she ever does.

[@lamesafilipinofoodclub6202]

I agree so much with this observation tears very real but completely for herself

[@zxs7170]

In her mind, the kids are healed. In her thank you speech she thanks the people who saved and “healed” her children. She used the word “healed” in reference to the abused children twice…as if in a 4 month period the life long psychological and physical abuse she inflicted on her “babies” magically disappeared. Her sister Bonnie also did this in one of her videos. Bonnie made a video where the focus was on herself (much likeRuby), in which she flippantly said “the kids are fine.” These kids will suffer deep psychological and physical scars for the rest of their lives. These women are delusional, self serving, sick individuals.

[@julieallison8635]

She don't feel shame. She blames everyone else she's very calculated and a psychopath who is very aware of what she's doing. Evil is all around trying to blame a religion and Satan is yet again proof they play on normal ppls emotions. Sick ppl enjoy destroying others same across the board. Jody is the master of all this chaos.

[@Wolffur]

A sociopath's tears are only for themselves.

[@gerriebell2128]

Re: Jodi “loving those children”- I remember seeing a Connexions video with her and Ruby talking, and she mentioned that love sometimes means hurting someone. She really thinks she “had” to do those things to the children as a sign of her love, to “bring them out 😊of distortion into truth”. Her niece Jessi said Jodi told her the torture on her at age 14-15, was to “help her confess and repent”. I think Jodi is sadistic, and the quotes of things she said, from both Jodi and the prosecutor, make me think she is absolutely insane. I hope they keep her completely out of society for a very very long time.

[@elizabethmiller819]

I don't love the fact that Ruby uses the phrase "my distorted version of reality." Distorted is a Jodi word and it's a bit uncomfortable that she's still using the terminology. Hopefully she just means it in the regular meaning/use of the word and not the Connexions application.

[@abirchmore5079]

I noticed that too. However she did state that she was ready to learn how to reenter society and be a contributing member. If she truly was brainwashed, it can take a while to unlearn the vocabulary she had learned I’m sure. Not defending her, I do agree with you.

[@beffis1980]

Did anyone else feel like ruby gave a speech like she just received an Oscar?!!!! And her attorney saying she’s a delightful human being! She’s very articulate! Very, very smart! A job to do as a mother, and she failed her babies! She was the monster in her children’s story! I think she’s extremely educated and very good at manipulation.

[@lamesafilipinofoodclub6202]

Forced upon her ….okay Ruby um that’s NOT what accountability looks and a sounds like

[@Judykroes]

I always look for your assessment Dr G. I have so much respect for what you have to say.

[@brooklynrules6117]

“I’ll take the responsibility but not the blame”. - Richard Nixon

[@justkiddin84]

Exactly! And oh my did he screw us up.

[@DrSimpleBeauty]

8:45 - 8:58 listen to how she goes from “crying” to no tears at all. Pure performance. 🎭

[@AmandaPaige71]

Ruby was awful and abusive long before Jodi came into the picture. Jodi only added fuel to the flame imo. The only reason Jodi didn't want the children to testify is so they wouldn't tell everything that's happened to them imo. I hope they both get nice long sentences to sit in their distortion.

[@bejelo9615]

Dr G, I always get excited when I see a new post from you. I love your work and the manner in which you break down the behaviours and explain the psychology behind the actions.

[@brendasmart553]

Ruby has since the beginning blamed jody, once cornered. They made good money doing horrors to children regardless if she hired jody or not.

[@clairedresdon8785]

She is also very much blaming herself. As an abused child myself, if my sorry excuse for a father had expressed such sentiments, there may have been an opening for some redemption and healing.

[@justkiddin84]

@@clairedresdon8785she NEVER apologized to the children. Just talked about herself. I understand your wishful thinking, but she is not really sorry. She denies Jodi was her business partner, etc, so that statement is an attempt to avoid responsibility and possible civil cases against her. Fake crying. Mama duck is a sadist. And says she abused the kids without knowing. There is no real ‘accountability without blame’ as she claims. And the fake cry stops suddenly. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@justkiddin84]

@@clairedresdon8785 I was also abused badly by a parent. I would have given a great deal to have one apology or genuine ‘I love you.’ It will never happen. I’m sorry for what happened to you, and I wish it could all be undone.

[@cherbuck5405]

She was abusive to her children well before 4 years ago meeting Hildebrandt. Her sisters all said that she was always weird and they did not believe in her beliefs or the way she raised her children.

[@katrinat.3032]

If Jody Hildebrandt is any kind of licensed therapist, I feel like she should have a more severe punishment. She’s been educated supposedly and what is healthy, both physically and mentally for children. Or does she just call herself therapist?

[@dawnwang1558]

She came to stark realization that you shouldn't starve and abuse your kids 🤢🤮

[@BeyondTheRx]

I found this channel last year because of a mention on The Behavior Panel on the quality of analysis by Dr. G and I’m so glad you continue to create insightful and helpful content. I appreciate the compare and contrast elements of this video. Thank you!

[@SweetOne.]

To hear that she hired Jodi in 2019 6:25 the year the youngest started school explains so much and that it was a camp of Jodi's recommendation that the oldest boy was sent to, is heart breaking - especially after the recent death of an 11 year old that just died at one of these camps. I strongly believe that Pam Bodtcher who was the President of Connexions Foundation should also be on trial.. it was her home the girls were found at "cleaning" for her. Goodness only knows what the older girls were subjected to over those 4 years age 11 to 15 & age 12 to 16 after listening to Jodi's Niece and knowing they were found in Bodtcher's home. Mass complaints were filed by viewers starting in 2020 not long after they joined Connextions as a family for counselling. Other people need to come forward - Jodi Hildebrandt should never get out of jail - not ever. (Mormon Cult) I hope that all members of ConneXtions have been found and deprogrammed - that more children have been "saved". Pam Bodtcher needs to answer this question. If people feel that one person can't manipulate otherwise normal people then they have never heard of Jim Jones, the The Peoples Temple of the Disciples of Christ, originally Peoples Temple Full Gospel Church and the Flavour-aide cyanide poisoning where over 900 members of the Peoples Temple movement died. (Christian Cult) Or of Charles Manson who actually went to jail for murders he did not do, but manipulated others to do in his name. (Messianic Cult)

[@jennymoody7038]

Hildebrandt looks so disconnected and almost drugged

[@sew161]

She's built like a Linebacker those poor kids must've been terrified of her.

[@TheSahand68]

Great commentary, great opportunity to learn from it. Thank you.

[@toni2606]

According to Utah State law pertaining to multiple, consecutive running prison sentences, the total cannot exceed 30 years regardless of the number of individual sentences and/or the length of each. I was incredibly disappointed to learn this. If ever there were prison sentences that should be carried out to their full extent, the sentences in both Franke and Hildebrand cases would surely represent such an example. Thank you, Dr. G. Your analyses are very much appreciated.

[@elliebellie7816]

I expect they will each serve 4-8 years at the most. Seems like sometimes the most heinous crimes get the lightest sentences.

[@PinkyakaAyannaj]

Utah.... yeppers you can bet they will get off light. For some reason Utah doesn't protect children. Just look at how many polygamist cults thrive in that state. It's sick and twisted 😠😡😤

[@BMarie774]

Reminder. They didn’t have the kids testify not to spare the kids. They did it, because when kids testify in trials the sentencing tends to be much harsher.

[@melissarobins7073]

Truth

[@brbrknndy]

As far as Ruby is concerned: when a counselor tells you to torture your children then it's time to look for another counselor.

[@artcreationsbydar]

always love your outlook on these Dr. G! Well done!

[@GiuliaBL]

I find our judicial system so outrageously odd regarding living victims. R & J "may" serve 30yrs or what have you, conversely their victims, no matter if they can carry the crimes that have been put upon them for the rest of their days, or buckle under the weight( drugs, alcohol, risky lifestyles or choices, etc) have a life sentence.

[@beany530]

Thanks Dr. G!

[@robyn874]

Ruby had a huge KZbin following that many paid to watch her abuse her children long before Jodi came along. To hide behind 'it's Jodi's fault' says a lot about Ruby not owning her part in all this. The remorse is for herself!

[@axemangang1584]

Don't forget Kevin's part in that early abuse before Jodie. He is guilty as much as Rubie.