Ruby Heart: the lost Darkstalker... OR IS SHE??

We're back with another Marvel vs Capcom 2 character overview! Today we're looking at Ruby Heart, an original character from MvC2 who is also rumored to be a scrapped Darkstalkers design. But is that true??? Let's get to the bottom of it, and talk about why Ruby is such a good character in MvC2! Hope you enjoy!
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[@ultraspinalki11]

SonSon is half an original character. She's the granddaughter of the original SonSon from an old arcade game. She's loosely based on him.

[@chillpill1590]

👍🏿

[@qmachado6555]

He means Marrow, SonSon is still an original Capcom game and character

[@SAPProd]

Rejected Darkstalkers character or not, I’d be perfectly happy to have her appear in a new Darkstalkers game! Amingo, too!

[@Negajoe]

May as well include Son-Son too. All three of them fit conveniently well within a Darkstalkers game.

[@SAPProd]

@@Negajoe I tend to forget her since she is tied to another franchise but I definitely agree she’d fit fine in a Darkstalkers game. Supposedly Ghost n Goblins is also connected since both have the Makai as a setting.

[@ed2166]

I had always thought Ruby was the main character of MvC2 and owns a ship that travels through dimensions which explains the crossover.

[@daywalker3735]

That kind of makes the most sense

[@Is-wunny]

I remember that something like that was part of the "Story" of MVC2

[@taylorbee4010]

That's in the manual.

[@Capothekid]

Lol that’s exactly it

[@sharpeylogic2907]

They really should bring her back someday her design is soooo good

[@everthon2457]

Bring Sonson and Amingo back as well wold be cool

[@daranyillh6446]

My bet is that the concept of ″lady pirate captain″ was something that came up while making Darkstalkers, but didn't go anywhere But the idea stuck in at least one of their heads

[@Railgun003]

Maybe the idea yes, but Ruby Heart the character I don't think isn't really for darkstalkers, unless she's a captain of a ghost ship or something. Her idle also has too little animation to fit the avatar of the other cast members.

[@daranyillh6446]

@@Railgun003 I meant more that the basic concept was tossed around in a brainstorming session Before they actually got to work designing things

[@carltasticdrew9633]

I could definitely see her as a hunter pirate archetype. Her hunting ghost pirates as her daily basis to get treasures. Like BB Hood hunting down monsters to get money.

[@neah2k11]

Capcom saw Captain Kidd from World Heroes and thought "we could do that too"

[@ellis7622]

she’s such a cool character. i really hope she makes an appearance in the next MvC game.

[@cordellriemer5177]

You forgot one thing about Ruby heart, she. kicks. high.

[@michaelcharlton5972]

Also strong about Ruby is the fact that the ghost chest super, if DHCed just after the chest appears, will continue emitting ghosts during the next super as if it were not cancelled. Makes for a good safe switch DHC and makes interesting combos possible.

[@Guitar-Dog]

I'm banking up tech for this 20? Year old game that I've never played, if I ever end up at a cabinet or tourney, I at least will know what's happening Edit: it must be more that 20 lol it's 2021 30 year old game

[@93msimpson]

Supet ghost kamikaze attack 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@Nether2342]

@@Guitar-Dog game came out in 2000, it’s 21

[@GeneralGlockasiah]

They might as well make her a Darkstalkers character. She fits well in that game.

[@baddabaddabaddaswing]

Same. I don't care at this point if she was intended for DS4 or not. If they ever make a new DS, just add her, Amingo and SonSon. They all fit perfectly.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

Agreed. The same goes for Amingo and Sonson as well. Too bad that would require Capcom to care about _Darkstalkers_ in the first place though; at this point Capcom only cares about Morrigan/Lilith and maybe Felicia.

[@baddabaddabaddaswing]

@@MusicoftheDamned I think the biggest factor holding back a new darkstalkers is the morphing. It would be a LOT of work to recreate all the body morphing from the original sprites in 3D models. My wish wouls be to bring in ArcSys to develop the game with them, as their anime cel shaded style involves tweaking each frame to give dynamic angles. Because let's be honest, while I like MVC3, there was nowhere near the amount of personality in the movements in Morrigan and Felcia than the original sprites (and Shuma Gorath too)

[@GeneralGlockasiah]

@@MusicoftheDamned Well, I don't think that it's about them not caring for Darkstalkers. I think it's because they lack faith in it selling well. And by well I mean like 1 million+ units out the gate. This is why they only focus on Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, and Street Fighter. I think they should try putting together a smaller team with a smaller budget and get it done. The investment would still be positive. They should do this with all their games they haven't touched in a while. Look how good skullgirls turned out and I'm sure it didn't have a half of SF budget.

[@MusicoftheDamned]

@@baddabaddabaddaswing Yeah, I vaguely remember hearing that, and honestly, that animation excuse and the simple "creating games costs *a lot* of money (nowadays)" I can understand. It's the other weird excuses, like Capcom apparently believing it can only have one series per genre existing at any time, that get me. What gets me in the case of _Darkstalkers_ in regards to that particular excuse is that _Street Fighter_ and it barely have anything in common, even in terms of just basic aesthetic, beyond just being 2(.5)D fighters. Given how there's always been a vague niche for a more horror-oriented fighter and only _Mortal Kombat_ and arguably _Skullgirls_ get anywhere near that still, _Darkstalkers_ could probably viable if they wanted to actually try. Capcom just doesn't want to take the risk, which is Capcom's prerogative but frustrating all the time. All said, it probably wouldn't annoy me as much it does if Capcom also did anything with _Darkstalker_ characters other than Morrigan & Liltih and Felicia. Outside of whoring Morrigan out, which I guess is at least appropriate for a succubus, Capcon has tended to at best _maybe_ use other characters as one-offs if they show up at all and generally only if they're female. If you're a fan of any of the male _Darkstalkers_ characters, then you've basically been out of luck for literal decades beyond Demitri and Jedah making appearances in really crappy games like _SNK vs. Capcom: Chaos_ and _Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite_ like Capcom is channeling some type of monkey's paw; not like Hsieno-ko got it any better in _MVC3_ unfortunately where she showed up as the worst character in the game. You think at least Talbain | Gallon would have shown up in at least one other fighting game by now since he's a martial artist, but nope. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Just like _Darkstalkers_ seeming chance of returning any time soon.

[@Zachary_Sweis]

Funny, Ruby Heart and Marrow was a team I rocked back in the arcades with Cable in the back.

[@nicolasjones2929]

You and Justin doing the lords work with these mvc2 vids keep up the good work bro.

[@geardog24]

Another reason Capcom should stop screwing around and bring back Darkstalkers.

[@macheefkaze]

Son Son has her own game. It's an old ass Capcom arcade game. The only two who don't are Amingo and Ruby.

[@jmcrofts]

that's a different sonson

[@reilly5005]

I just tried getting into MVC2 and I wanted ruby on my ratio team so this came out at the perfect time

[@ReikuYin]

Wait! You missed a super! I think it's HK, LP, down, HP LK. She droops a barrel on you then you throw swords into it with lp and lk I think. It's pretty useless but fun to style with.

[@chicco5033]

You can actually combo otg from a dhc into it with crouching lk hp i think it is. I watched too many Jwong videos.

[@fakeigniz13]

Was going to say, the pop up pirate super has a bunch of uses and can do stupid damage if you get lucky

[@ReikuYin]

@@chicco5033 Thought it did not connect right if they weren't in a standing position.

[@ReikuYin]

@@fakeigniz13 THANK YOU! I was going to mentioned it based on a children's board game game, but I could not remember which one. Never got more then 3 myself, but yeah looked like it could get crazy damage.

[@chicco5033]

@@ReikuYin yeah it doesn't fully connect, but they go in hard knockdown and you can combo otg as soon as they land, the knife throwing thing is indeed inspired by a childrens game where you have to stick knives in a barrel hoping that the pirate's head inside it doesn't pop iirc. Also the super is a 50/50 each time between lp and lk, so it should be 1 out of 16 times you get full damage :)

[@stormshadow3087]

I remember that game in the arcade you were able to do that, and people that were being cheesy hated that.

[@ByrneBaby]

FG development history is my second fave thing to hear veterans talk about, right behind tournament stories.

[@PurpleBunnySlippers]

I have recently come to own a mvc2 cabinet so i been playing religiously for the last week and after not playing for nearly 20 years Im a bit rusty to say the least. Your mvc2 videos have been awesome. It's awsome to see this game still get the love it deserves after all these years.

[@ernieslanders5857]

When I saw her forward dash my brain automatically thought of I-no and the fact she had anchor and pirate ship is giving me I-no/May strive vibes

[@sf4603]

She also has this weird glitch where she can leave like an invisible ghost on the screen that makes her opponent go into a block if they hold back even though theres nothing to block so it messes up their movement options

[@Ming1975]

Oooh! So this is where SFV Rose's pirate outfit came from.

[@tearitup5864]

Lmao when she does the pillar special, it sounds like: “GIVE ME THAT SHIT!” And when she does the charge special/super, it sounds like: “SHE WAS A MAN!”

[@Nether2342]

I main Ruby heart. A big thing she has going for her is that her Fireball Super sets up into the infamous sentinel dhc giving access to easy TODs off basically any hit. She can also bring the opponent down with her super and solo combo off of it into whatever she wants, including snapback, which is cool because she also has solo guardbreaks on incoming!

[@AlmightStick]

Oh Im seeing why Marrow is good... She put in some work here and there for sure. I love how you mix it up and use a variety of characters, and showcase a lot of lesser used ones. Here's hoping you show of some of the sauce SonSon has.

[@michel0dy]

Ruby Heart and Marrow? My two favourite characters in the game!

[@gabrielbitencourt3729]

i would pay big money for another game with Ruby Heart and Amingo in it! Nice video!

[@Shibuyach0]

With the ghost ship makes sense she would be in darkstalkers

[@heavenlysusanoo3782]

Ngl normally I root for your opponents to win but since today you were playing Runy Heart I was rooting for you to win

[@ChauncyTalon]

Oh man, you didn't do the Barrel Super where you have to guess right for the damage. It's like a Raging Demon

[@overweightactor]

My favorite thing with Ruby is to pair her with Blackheart and just spam the pillar moves. It's actually a surprisingly good lockdown tech.

[@Aoishi2AL]

She is the sister of the pirates from Higemaru. It makes sense for her to be considered a Darkstalker since the pirates go to a version of Makai (Demon World/Realm) that has monsters from Ghouls/Ghost and Goblins enemies. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4uoemqrdt2Hjck en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Ship_Higemaru On that note, I would love a new Darkstalkers game with Ruby Heart, Amingo, SonSon, Firebrand, Arthur, Dictator, Rose and Menat.

[@damienlee4992]

I love ruby heart her pressure is good and projectile too also the assist As well whenever she on the screen as long you good assist to back her up it ever dangerous not bad for a strong mid tier I really hope comes back her design so sick.

[@vicenteeus8432]

Amingo is clearly the darkstalker reject

[@t-virus7098]

I just love her design

[@rvn920]

Your hypothetical answer to new marvel vs or rerelease 2 makes me say... New one... Only if arcsys develops it XD

[@TheCodeAlwaysWins]

this game came out around the time of Skies or Arcadia with Dreamcast's release. There was a famous Famitsu interview in Japan a year before. I think that's what it was since the game was made with the official Naomi SDK (e.g. they were in close contact with Sega devs).

[@TheCodeAlwaysWins]

TLDR she is the long-lost SNK character ripoff version of a Skies of Arcadia character

[@ChauncyTalon]

She's in a game called Quest for Booty for PS3 and Xbox 360 but it's not a fighting game.

[@neutraljump]

I feel like my comment was read on the last video! Talk about Marrow next?

[@killerkonnat]

Ruby Heart does exist in an another game. She's in Sentinels of the Multiverse series but under the name of La Capitan!

[@Wykesidefruitmachine]

That's not her at all.

[@Butters_is_my_child]

Didn’t like the creator of darkstalkers confirm she’s real (also she fits the theme of all them being from different regions of the world,hers being france)

[@YUNG_ISA2012]

Really enjoying the marvel 2 content! Keep it up!

[@3serio]

Now that i think about it, Ruby doesn’t really do any transforming or have any Zany stuff in her moveset like the rest of the cast (+Amingo). So i don’t think she’s a dark stalker either.

[@donovanloreman]

I mean do all Darkstalkers characters have transformations? Nah.

[@3serio]

@@donovanloreman well there’s an “or” in there so there’s more than transforming as a qualifier, noted by the rest of the sentence.

[@RetroKid]

Use Spiral in the way that caused so many problems like Morigan in UMvC3

[@TheDilll]

Cable is unique to MvC2 also or were you just referring specifically to the capcom side?

[@vongolawingjace2364]

FINALLY a ruby heart video let's go!!! Tidal wave too OP!!!

[@fredthompson1585]

Her ,captain commando , and hayato must be base roster on next MvC game.

[@RePlayQ]

Wow! At 3:46 she even turns into a boat for a frame!!

[@augsto12341]

Awesome as usual! May you please do one on Venom?

[@paulroy6316]

ive done ruby fly glitch in ranked match on xbox 360 so many times when I learnt it I would take the lead and just hide in the sky hahaha

[@HYLOBRO]

It sucks that Marvel has become such a bloated mess with Disney at the helm. We'll never see all these characters in a Capcom fighting game again because the characters IP's are so valuable, and DISNEY owns them, so it's just financially impossible for that to happen. I wish, but it Disney will never allow these characters to be in a fighting game that they don't outright own the profits of.

[@kingjaven13]

Fun fact Ruby Heart was a rejected dark stalker character

[@breathescubasteve]

"I want that guy banned from the arcade"

[@Baatosanabe]

"yooop!" That guys was amazing.

[@koby_mitchell]

Will you do Morrigan?

[@jeweledmoon5567]

Yay, I am so excited for this.

[@hjelsethak]

Well, the next question is, "How is your Morgana?"

[@shadou1234567]

you forgot to show the best super, the barrel one

[@allcapcomeverything3866]

Ruby Heart was basically also supposed to be a slight nod to Pirate Ship Higemaru. The pirate that appears during the barrel super (Tour de Magie) looks similar to Momotaru, the protagonist of that game. Another thing that somewhat supports this is that Capcom has the Shadaloo Research Institute, one of the characters on there is named Ruby and looks almost exactly like Ruby Heart, and is stated to be from the PSH universe. Momotaru was also almost put into SFV as a playable character, further supporting this. SonSon in this game is the original SonSon's granddaughter. She likely was actually meant for Vampire Soldier (which was the working title for the 4th Darkstalkers game) due to her weird moves and being a monkey-woman, same way Felicia is a cat-woman. Amingo, jury's out on him. Some say he was supposed to be in Vampire Soldier, others say he was from a cancelled rhythm game Capcom was planning. I think on the rhythm game front, people are confusing that with Sega's Samba de Amigo, which came out I believe around the same time as MvC2. If there was a cancelled rhythm game by Capcom, I would have known about it lol.

[@LordBeMine]

Was it confirmed that Kunkka (from Dota) is based from Ruby Heart?

[@sir.raphimrevelator8644]

We can all agree...Ruby Heart is an MVC2 OG! Oooh I meant OC! 😎

[@Is-wunny]

Imagine Ruby Heart, Amingo, Son Son and Abyss in a new MVC game :0

[@Siinory]

I see a pirate woman, I'm happy! I do want to try MvC2, what's a good team for a newcomer? I do plan to play Ruby Heart

[@jmcrofts]

ruby heart+doom or ruby heart+cable are both good and pretty easy characters. Then you just need a good assist like captain commando, cyclops, sentinel, psylocke, etc

[@Siinory]

@@jmcrofts Woah! Thanks a lot! :D. MvC2 looks really fun with some dose of difficulty. On to the lab now

[@exprominence4268]

Love some ruby heart hope she would be sick in a new mvc or even a new vampire savior

[@FreddyChoppins]

If anyone here's ever read Malazan, Ruby Heart is what I imagine Tattersail looking like. It's like I see "sail" and my brain just jumps to "PIRATE!".

[@wolfgangank8851]

Bruh, you missed the best super

[@markbarrett3398]

As someone else said u forgot a super

[@TheLBG7]

I want one of these on Rogue

[@amotaba]

Do you play Tekken? If yes, you could make videos about it!

[@jacksypher3403]

13:33 What about a MvC2 remake like SF2 HD remix where they have the same frame data but updated sprite artwork and some balance changes

[@drwilyecoyote5357]

MvC2s artworks actually my favorite.

[@nakofan]

Maybe if they put her on sf6 would be great

[@thepowerofthegodhand7003]

Rudy I feel is underrated.

[@bowshockgalaxy]

Who are the three that was made for this game?

[@ClexYoshi]

it feels like Marrow does no damage. X_X

[@subterraneanretrogames556]

What does she say during her “pillar”? I assume it’s something Japanese.

[@davidlunalozano1074]

she says "sublimation".

[@calebsmythTV]

Hey JM, please give this comment a heart if I should emulate this game and record videos of it!

[@malloryemclaren]

I think she is from France.

[@Spartacus679]

Main character baby 👍 mvc2

[@Titan717]

I think a hyper combo was missed, the barrel and knives hyper

[@kottonmouthxkyd]

Son Son is from Son Son a classic Capcom game similar to Donkey Kong or Ice Climbers

[@trafalgarlaw3486]

honestly I always thought Ruby Heart can carry her own game

[@84TZ]

"This is not the sfv Capcom, maybe they would male a good game" - sfv trash confirmed - jm 2021

[@coolperson4283]

Please make an ultimate MvC2 beginners guide for zoomers.

[@fakeigniz13]

She was going to be the star of a new pirate ship higemaru game that got cancelled. Similarly sonson was going to be in a new sonson game. At least that's my completely unsubstantiated theory

[@Railgun003]

Huh, first I heard of the darkstalker theory. I really don't see her fitting the darkstalker cast tho... Too far from the other human in that cast

[@amotaba]

MvC2 ❤

[@FriendlyDoctorGuy]

UUUUUUGHHHH! I WANT THIS GUY BANNED FROM THIS ARCADE!

[@PatriciaCross]

Son Son is from his own game. Arcade 1984

[@neah2k11]

So no mention of her level 3?

[@tgonzalez1983]

Doesn’t make sense for her to be a dark stalker. Doesn’t fit her theme even a little bit

[@MusicoftheDamned]

I still find this seemingly sudden _MVC2_ resurgence rather weird as someone who hasn't been paying attention to the FGC lately, but I am definitely here for the Ruby Heart love. She was always my favorite _MVC2_ character, and the fact that she's rather good was/is just a bonus really. That said, I still find it funny that she has three really good supers and then what is arguably the single worst super in the game in the form that stupid Barrel super that I think is also a Lv. 3 for some unfathomable reason. I also remember being rather surprised, when I got to play this game again randomly after so many years, at the deceptively short range of her c. HP, at least as it's starting up. Sigh. This is making me wish she showed up in another (good) game. Even as much as the "she was meant to be a _Darkstalkers_ character" claim has always been a bit dubious and uncertain, she (and Amingo and Sonson) would still rather easily slot into that series. Too bad that would require Capcom caring about _Darkstalkers_ beyond Morrigan/Lilith and maybe Felicia first, which seems unlikely given how many good series Capcom has just sitting around unused. (Shout out to _Dino Crisis_ and _Breath of Fire_ among other series. I'm glad that _Devil May Cry_ escaped such a fate.)

[@magicstix0r]

Wait, Cable is in a game other than MVC2?

[@MajinAsuraPath]

Sonson isn't a MVC2 original. She is from SonSon. She was a dude in her original game.

[@jamespero6803]

Son son had a game back in the day and I'm pretty sure amingo had a rhythm game on the dreamcast

[@alvarogonzalez3104]

Also Cable and Marrow are original characters, they have never appeared on another MvC game

[@TheKeaver]

He means original characters as in "the character didn't exist before MvC2". Since Cable and Marrow existed before MvC2 (they are Marvel characters) that means they aren't "original"-ly from MvC2

[@EmphasisOnJ]

Son son has a arcade game not sure if it was already said

[@Emiitaii]

Sup Chancho

[@qmachado6555]

Son-Son is in a Capcom game. You mean Marrow…🤦 these script reading “fgc” guys. Ruby heart isn’t a “rejected” darkstalker character

[@lukeirving7460]

Ruby heart and amigo yes but sonson is a old capcom character that had her own ge on the nes looks like u did no do your home work bro

[@daywalker3735]

Son Son exists in some old crappy arcade game that Capcom made.

[@SAWmacaco]

sonson have a game, old arcade plataform