What Are the TRUE Starter Pokemon of Rivals?

[@RuffledRowlit]

For thoes wondering why there is no Hop or Marnie? Well I plan to do a video follow up for thoes 3 from Galar specificly.

[@cheryladams1725]

RuffledRowlit if you hadn’t made this comment you would have seen a very angry comment😂

[@thomasmattsson8802]

yes! I get to hear your beautiful voice in another video!

[@ObrigadaJim]

pokemon masters loose his canon credibeliy when showing Oak with Mew, and Zinnia with rayquaza, WTF, its cool but caonicle dont make scence.. but i like the game.

[@reimusandwich]

hop is strongest rival he have legendary

[@dankiumzed2831]

RuffledRowlit and what about trace?

[@calebshepherd8435]

Bianca doesn’t conflict with Hugh, their stories were two years apart

[@angussmith7748]

And Hugh is confirmed to have raised his starter from an egg in the games.

[@dogleven3745]

Litterly everybody knows.

[@peanutjelly5689]

@@dogleven3745 well clearly the dude who made the game doesn't

[@magnolias__]

Yeah thought it was weird that was the third instance of 2 characters from one generation having the same pokemon in this video and that was the only time he mentioned it "conflicting"

[@Stevenbfg]

He may have meant Hilbert because if Cheren had Snivy, Hilbert would have to have Oshawott which would conflict with Bianca also having Oshawott.

[@umapessoa240]

I like to think Ethan’s canon starter is Totodile just so his edgelord rival gets stuck with Chikorita.

[@CartwheelJoe]

I like that incentive although doesn’t Ethan use a Typhlosion?

[@blyzer7373]

@@CartwheelJoe Ethan has no definitive partner but Gold does and he uses Typhlosion

[@Blossomy77]

@@blyzer7373 eathen and gold are the same person

[@pietro3958]

BR! HUEHUEHUEHUE!

[@danilomalaspina5148]

Genial

[@chaliceohearts4658]

But Gladion kinda does have a starter to connect to. He owns an Umbreon in the anime and Eevee is treated as a starter on the same level as Pikachu. So I truly believe that Gladion most likely has an Eevee as a “starter”, but Type Null was his first “official” Pokémon.

[@RuffledRowlit]

I guess that is a pretty fair point :)

[@krishhiranandani7875]

I thought so too

[@Konidis]

Blue has either Charmander or Squirtle. Thumbnail : *Blue with Bulbasaur*

[@vibra7]

KZbinrs love them clickbaits

[@abelmoreno4836]

Konidis This comment did not age well Edit: In case he pulls that “I edited this comment so the replies don’t make sense” the comment said “Blue has either charmander or squirtle Thumbnail: Blue with bulbasaur”

[@nikopogo1]

I've theorised on this lots of times as well as the true starters of the player characters. Would be nice to see a video of that.

[@RuffledRowlit]

I could definetly make a video about that as a follow up to this one :)

[@nikopogo1]

@@RuffledRowlit Great to hear it. I've also theorised that maybe the timeline can be simplified by having one canon version. Not saying that the others wouldn't be canon,though it doesn't really matter much when all the differences are pretty much for gameplay purposes.

[@marinomele4575]

@@nikopogo1 Hi, I totally love Pokémon main characters - especially game-wise since they get so little attention. I want to inform you that this video is *almost completely wrong*. I dislike the fact that the title is talking about "TRUE starters" while olny talking about personal assuptions, it's misleading if not plain bad. I've posted a comment here, to share with the interested users the actual truth I've discovered after hours of research I did some time ago, completely unbiased and 100% based on Game Freak material. I'd appreciate if you'd consider to read what I wrote and not let you influenced by the assumption-based-misinformation this video spreads. Help me spread the real stories behind the characters we played as ^^

[@nikopogo1]

@@marinomele4575 My research has also been with gf material when thinking about it. But i want to know,by gf material,you mean stuff official art?

[@marinomele4575]

@@nikopogo1 Official art has been my main source of evidence, even the most forgotten ones XD I think that no one can depict a character better than its character designer ;) Sometimes I even used sometimes in-game material in order to further prove/disprove something. Using Pokèmon Masters (it is directed by ken sugimori after all) and Kotobukuya's Officially Licensed Figures as a backup argument to, sometimes, suggesting that the remaked characters seems to share different starters with the original (like Ruby and Omega Ruby)

[@norwayguy7649]

"most of the time the rival chose the stronger or. the weaker starter" well, what else can. they do? lmao

[@RamFaceProductions]

It absolutely does not matter if Bianca's starter conflicts with Hugh's, their adventures take place in different games within the same region, and their adventures take place two years apart. They could have the same starter and it wouldn't matter. Also, even if those three made sense and didn't conflict, the two player characters from BW and B2W2 have to get starters too, which would make all of that conflict anyways.

[@AceOfVegas]

I like to think that Blue started with a Blastoise, but uses Charizard in Let's go because he (like Red) has caught most of the first 150 anyway. So he rotates his team

[@Zylber7]

8:09 In the manga, Y has a Greninja called Croaky/ けろけろ(Kerokero) 9:00 I personaly think Popplio fits more with Hau's personality, as he's known for liking surfing Also please do this video but for the player characters

[@marinomele4575]

Hi, I totally love Pokémon main characters - especially game-wise since they get so little attention. I want to inform you that this video is *almost completely wrong*. I dislike the fact that the title is talking about "TRUE starters" while olny talking about personal assuptions, it's misleading if not plain bad. I've posted a comment here, to share with the interested users the actual truth I've discovered after hours of research I did some time ago, completely unbiased and 100% based on Game Freak material. I'd appreciate if you'd consider to read what I wrote and not let you influenced by the assumption-based-misinformation this video spreads. Help me spread the real stories behind the characters we played as ^^

[@neondisguise1587]

In the anime Hau had Rowlet

[@adachisans5664]

Also if Hau has Popplio, by default Kukui will have Incineroar, and since he is the Royal Mask, having a pokémon based on wrestling makes sense

[@neondisguise1587]

@@adachisans5664 yeah that makes sense

[@GLIEPNIR]

Well if you think about it, Rowlett's second evolution looks like a surfer dude and is a grass type, so no problem dealing with water :/

[@wwetitle818]

Sorry Silver, you’re gonna have to deal with Chikorita. No way in HELL am I giving up MY Totodile!

[@ugxsan]

Just wanna point out, Gladion may not be associated with any of the starter trio, but he does have a pretty clear Pokemon he started with: Rockruff, who by the time you meet him, is now a Midnight Lycanroc.

[@Douchenko]

Hau has a Alola raichu in the anime also

[@RuffledRowlit]

That is true :) just forgot to mention that hehe

[@pollux6560]

My personal Opinion (only the ones that get starters in game) Blue: Squirtle/Eevee Silver: Totodile Brendan: Mudkip May: Torchic Barry: Piplup Bianca: Tepig Cheren: Oshawott Calem: Chespin Serena: Fenniken Hau: Rowlett

[@socketandfriends8096]

What about the let's go rival and Hop?

[@NDex5]

A lot of these are confirmed through Pokémon masters like Brendan where his sync pair is treecko

[@greyvanity]

Change Calem too Froakie and Cheren too Snivy and I'd agree tbh

[@MB-po2or]

I think Calem should have Froakie, and Bel with Snivy, idk why

[@UnKnown-bo8ce]

PhantomAce5692 I personally think Cheren would get Snivy and I would get Oshawatt. Which works perfectly because Oshawatt's my fav Gen V starter.

[@silvertalon8]

While Masters is a valid source, I feel it should also be noted that not every Pokémon is something that’s been with the trainer for so long. Misty for example has gotten a new Starmie to raise as she left her other one back in Cerulean as stated in her SP Story. I do agree with all your points in the video but I wouldn’t pass some to just get an egg from their rival

[@jangofett23]

I wanna point out that Bianca’s starter choice doesn’t have anything to do with Hugh, as Black2 and White2 are direct sequels to Black and White, so he shouldn’t technically be grouped with Bianca and Cheren

[@garythestormtrooper5589]

Hau is literally the only rival where all the starters actually suit him

[@therockingvolbeat3630]

I don't think the litten line suits him

[@creepercraftguy5326]

I don’t remember where I saw it, but I remember seeing an official piece of Pokemon media for Black and White, and one of the things on it was Cheren with a Servine and Bianca with a Pignite, so I think it’s safe to say that they chose Snivy and Tepig as their starters respectively.

[@dogleven3745]

Gary / blue = squirtle. Silver = totodile. Wally = ralts. Brendan = treeko. May = torchic. Barry = Piplup. Cheren = snivy. Hugh = oshawatt. Bianca = tepig. Calem = chespin. Serena = fennekin. Hau = rowlet. Gladion = type null. This is for if you wanna go through this faster.

[@enzokalani]

When I think of true starters I usually just consider the ones in the Adventures manga.

[@enzokalani]

😋👍

[@softiebbybunny2317]

Same

[@Stevenbfg]

People really overrate that series and give it too much authority on canon. Gamefreak has nothing to do with it. And the Pokemon Masters starters as well as thinks like Origins and Generations contradict it.

[@enzokalani]

I can agree, each iteration has it's own form of canon and what you hold too is your choice.

[@Stevenbfg]

@@IvorysNightcore Right but this video is clearly in reference to the games characters so I wouldn't consult Adventures on canon for the reasons you stated.

[@bullymaguire6315]

Well, this is my theory, but if you have observed in almost every depiction, media or artwork for Red and Blue (Rival) except the manga, Red always had a Bulbasaur while Blue was always seen with Charmander in their Classic Timeline Artwork, where they were still using their clothes and designs seen in Gen 1 games. Classic Timeline is basically the stories that happened in the Gen 1 and 2 games (RBGY -> GSC) However, in the Mega Timeline, Red was always seen or depicted with Charmander, while Blue (Rival) is always shown with Squirtle, such as Pokemon Origins, Pokemon Generations Episode 3, and Pokemon Masters. The Mega timeline refers to games or medias where Mega Evolution is shown to occur, such as Gen 6 games onwards, and both Red and Blue are typically seen in their Gen 3/4 FireRed and LeafGreen/HeartGold and SoulSilver clothes and outfits. So basically, Classic Timeline: Red - Bulbasaur Blue (Rival) - Charmander Mega Timeline: Red - Charmander Blue (Rival) - Squirtle In the manga though, it is established that it is one consistent timeline throughout the arcs, so Red with Bulbasaur in the Gen 1 RGBY arc is the same Red that appeared in the Gen 3 FRLG arc with Venusaur. Same can be said for Blue, and the rest of the dexholders characters. And in Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu/Eevee remakes, although it can be said that these games take place in the Mega Timeline as Mega Evolution is present, Red and Blue (as well as Green, the girl) is shown in their Classic Timeline artwork, which explains why Red has a Venusaur while Blue has a Charizard when you battle them.

[@SeiLa-zf1sf]

I like to think like this: Red and Blue Timeline: Red - Bulbasaur Blue (Rival) - Charmander Fire Red and Leaf Green Timeline: Red - Charmander Blue (Rival) - Squirtle

[@custardyboi6951]

Audi Ahmad I kinda agree bc in let’s go they have there og clothes so in rby red has bulbasaur in frlg he has charmander

[@kikuite9091]

the rival from pokemon black and white 2 is so underrated. So underrated i can't remember his name.

[@johnchristian8685]

hugh

[@custardyboi6951]

Hugh is his name

[@CorgeekWx]

Red had Charmander, Blue had Squirtle, Silver had Totodile, Brendan had Treecko, May had Torchic, Barry had Chimchar, Dawn had Piplup, Bianca had Tepig, Hugh had Oshawott, Cheren had Snivy, Calem had Chespin, Serena has Fennekin, Hau has Popplio, Gladion WOULD have had Litten.

[@custardyboi6951]

Corgeek I agree with everything except haus starter would be Rowlet and I think Barry would have piplup and gladion does pick a Kanto starter in the post game that is the same type as ur starter

[@bnguyen2424]

In the manga y has a froakie that evolves into a greninja as her starter pokemon

[@juanpabloelizarrarazoliva2804]

It also has the ability battle bond according to bulbapedia

[@waterworks_yes]

Brian Nguyen yeah I read the XY manga and she has a greninja

[@krusader0243]

When it comes to black and white and the 2nd versions, there is a time gap. This makes it good enough to have double starters. Also there are different main characters for them as well. Hilda and Hilbert in 1 and Nate and Rosa in the 2nd.

[@marinomele4575]

Hi, I totally love Pokémon main characters - especially game-wise since they get so little attention. I want to inform you that this video is *almost completely wrong*. I dislike the fact that the title is talking about "TRUE starters" while olny talking about personal assuptions, it's misleading if not plain bad. I've posted a comment here, to share with the interested users the actual truth I've discovered after hours of research I did some time ago, completely unbiased and 100% based on Game Freak material. I'd appreciate if you'd consider to read what I wrote and not let you influenced by the assumption-based-misinformation this video spreads. Help me spread the real stories behind the characters we played as ^^

[@dominicvskurt215]

HERBERT LOL its Hilbert

[@krusader0243]

What Is Google Lol dude I didn’t catch the autocorrect 😂

[@krusader0243]

Marino Mele I’m not going off the videos info. I’m going off of the video games and common sense.

[@vtkkvr]

Keep in mind that manga, games and anime are different uiverses so there are big differences.

[@lostsky7973]

“In the manga serena’s name is Y” Me: Do ya mean Why Is she a fan favourite?

[@masteroftheocarina2709]

Now I know which starter to choose when playing through the games again

[@johannessguten2527]

Dont follow this its garbage

[@subarashii2201]

LOVE the movement of the pokemon pictures, it really makes them come to life in this video! Good job ruffled :D

[@RuffledRowlit]

Thanks Subarashii I spent alot of time on this video :D

[@subarashii2201]

@@RuffledRowlit u deserve a thumbs up mah boi :D

[@RuffledRowlit]

Thanks man :)

[@XLuxtra]

The Brendan thing is easy. Never considered he owns...both?

[@lukebullimore7877]

Japanese: this guy is the rival right, his name is Green English: blue? Japanese: no green- English: ah Blue okay

[@Fantallana]

You say that kanto rival should have squirtle because his name is blue... but in Japan his name is green?

[@DoublemanFM]

Blue: *Has green starter in thumbnail* Me: "Wait, that's illegal"

[@amberknight7301]

For Silver, the answer is likely Totodile. In Masters, his Sync Pair is likely Ho-Oh given the recent trailer, but we see that Ethan has a Sync Pair with Cyndaquil, Lyra has Chikorita and Kris has Feraligatr. The likely main character out of those three is Ethan and Ethan as Cyndaquil, therefore Silver has Totodile.

[@NoPulseGames]

I think Venusaur was going to be the original mascot over Charizard, since Red had Venusaur. Since Charizard became the mascot and the obvious color coordination (Red/Orange) Red was known for using Charizard

[@SeiLa-zf1sf]

Venusaur was NEVER a MASCOT

[@JetZV]

Personally, I split OG character from remake characters. For example, Classic Ruby is always seen with a Swampert, but Omega Ruby is only ever seen with a Sceptile, so I'd argue that the two are different characters.

[@johannessguten2527]

Ruby has swampert as the rival but blaziken as the player character in oras its treecko either way

[@SeiLa-zf1sf]

Same thing with Red, I think Classic Red has Bulbasaur but in Fire Red he has Charmander

[@Stevenbfg]

Blue also uses Blastoise in Generations which means all three of his animated counterparts use it. Pokemon Adventures also isn't the only manga and I recall him using a Squirtle in one.

[@jaketheronin683]

Finding Silver's true Starter is difficult. I don't think Pokemon Masters is gonna help with that either because all three Johto Starters are paired with Ethan, Krystal and Lyra already.

[@codymcgrew4015]

Rowlet is Moon’s starter, not a rival but Rowlet just goes perfectly with her.

[@sach608]

Its clear that Gladion doesn't get litten, in the storyline of sun and moon her mother, Lusamine says, my daughter who stole my Cosmog which is probably Lilie, and my son who took my Type: Null, also Hau does pick Rowlet, while the protagonist pick Litten. Because if you look at the team rainbow rocket wallpaper the protagonist Sun or whatever his name has an Incineroar at his side. And popplio of course was taken by kukui if you can see by the battle in the elite four

[@robertparkhurst4034]

Gladion indeed best fits Type: Null/ In the anime where he ‘starts’ with an Eevee that he evolves into an Umbreon. And as much as I can’t imagine Mask Royale canonically not using Incineroar, Hau with Rowlet seems the most canon

[@yamahenrique]

6:35 cursed forehead

[@MB-po2or]

lol

[@Eusong]

Brendan and Ruby are not the same character, and old Brendan is confirmed to be an alternate universe from remake Brendan. Old Brendan is most likely the rival rather than May, as May is Norman's daughter in the anime and not Birch's, meaning for that to happen in the games May would have to be the canonical player character. If May uses Torchic, then Brendan is Mudkip. It's very likely remake Brendan chose a Treecko instead seeing as it's an alternate universe according to the Delta chapter.

[@johannessguten2527]

I heavily agree with this though if brendan is the player character in the original id say he has torchic at least in r/s while in emerald maybe treecko. In oras it seems very straightforward to me brendans new starter is treecko and mays starter depends on if she is the player character or not meaning in the ruby universe she has a torchic while in the sapphire universe she has a mudkip. I genuinely think mays new canon starter should be mudkip if for no other reason to promote mega swampert as a new mega at the time

[@RedDragonForce2]

Blue/Green/Gary Who's to say all the MC/Rivals didn't eventually breed and trade for the other starters?? It'd explain why he switches back and forth and eventually in SGCHGSS he doesn't use any of them while Red uses all of them. Wally... I always preferred the Remakes giving him Gallade to fit his personal story rather than lock him into Gardevoir in the original RSE versions. Ruby/Brandon: Since he's depicted with a Swampert while Wally has not been, Ruby/Brandon gets Mudkip while Wally gets Treeko. Sapphire/May: This leaves her with Torchic, which is more iconic due to Anime Main Female Character Status, but it just fits. Wally is Pearl?? Then who is Dawn? Platinum? Because you also have Lucas, despite not being a 'true' rival and he feels more like Diamond. Gladion... Maybe Eevee? He does have an Umbreon!! Thoughts??

[@RuffledRowlit]

Not a bad idea also Wally isnt Pearl hehe Barry is called Pearl in the Manga :)

[@RedDragonForce2]

RuffledRowlit I meant Barry!! 😅

[@TakaG]

In the manga Red and Blue/Green trade their starters for a while during the Sevii Islands arc.

[@alfonsopayan09]

A Theory has it that Red had machoke and haunter and traded them for the Charizard (machamp for blue) Blastoise (to green/female kanto girl making her have a gengar to accompany her clefairy and wigglytuff) And he had as a starter Bulbasaur so who knows (Manga actually had them by accident trading mons so maybe Red became really good friends with Charizard and Blastoise and became really close so there’s also that)

[@Cklert]

@@alfonsopayan09 This is actually supported by the Let's Go games when you fight each of them.When you fight Red, he has a Venasaur, and a Machamp. When you fight Blue, he still has a Charizard. Green/Leaf has a Blastoise. Though, she already has a Gengar. However when you fight Blue in Johto, he has a Machamp instead of Charizard. I am not entirely how Red ended up getting her Blastoise.

[@GalaktischerHirnsauger]

Imo Red: Charmander blue: Squirtle Leaf: bulbasaur Ethan: Cindaquil Silver: tododile Crystal: Tododile Lyra: Chicorita Brendan: Treeko no doubt May: Torchic wally: ralts Dawn: Piplup Barry: Piplup Lucas: Piplup Hilberr: oshwott Hilda: tepig cheren: snivy bianca: tepig nate: tepig rosa: snivy hugh: ottaro serena: fennekin calem: froaky shauna: chespin

[@anardisaserrano-nieves7854]

So you are giving Piplup as a starter to all sinnoh characters?

[@GalaktischerHirnsauger]

@@anardisaserrano-nieves7854 Piplup just fits the sinnoh asthetic so well. I mean Sinnoh is the coldest and snowiest region and piplup as a emperor penguin just embodies the cold haha. Also Dawn and Barry are already asociated with piplup through the anime/pokemon masters and Lucas's platinum outfit has a lot of blue and that warm vintage feeling which also fits piplup :)

[@Mister100Percent]

A random Penguin You can’t be disrespecting my boy Torterra like that. He’s the best Gen 4 starter.

[@alex_trem0]

A random Penguin that’s a stupid reason haha it should be lucas: turtwig dawn: piplup barry: chimchar

[@zkdelta8014]

2:39 this is kinda sad cause he's been paired with Ho-oh in masters. We might never know his starter until he tells us in one of his texts in the game. And he can't be given any of the starters from Johto because Ethan has Typhlosion, Kris has Feraligatr, and Lyra has Meganium in the game.

[@lunerblade13]

and it has an ironic take in the manga perspective since ho-oh was the pokemon that abducted silver and blue from their homes and was what gave blue her phobia of birds for years.

[@Stevenbfg]

As Ethan has Typhlosion and Lyra (who replaced Kris) has Meganium, logic says he has Feraligatr since Ethan is more than likely the canon protagonist.

[@gordonschnick12]

Wally's first Pokemon is Ralts. Remember. The game's not every trainer gets to pick between the starters. Only you and your rival.

[@CalebLLShow]

Starters were only special before breeding was a thing you can trade as well as breed. Trainers have multiple starters

[@ghello_]

so as a male characters if you want the rivals to have their true starter you have to pick: charmander in rby cyndaquil in gsc treecko in rse chimchar in dppl oshawott in bw tepig in bw2 chespin in xy litten in sm/usum

[@custardyboi6951]

just ghello yessir

[@custardyboi6951]

Assuming u always are the male character I agree

[@thomasmattsson8802]

Wow you’re voice is really good for these kind of videos! I’m looking forward to you making more! (if you like making these kind of videos of course)

[@RuffledRowlit]

Thank you so much for the kind words

[@thomasmattsson8802]

Ok. I hope everyone else loves these videos just like me so I kan see more! Edit: so WE kan see more!

[@RuffledRowlit]

I hope so to hehe :)

[@KINGD353]

Wait... Why are you duscusdibb hugh as if he grabbed from the same set of 3 as Bianca and charrin? He's from black and white 2 isn't he? The game that takes place LITERAL YEARS after Bianca and charrin's journeys? So how is it conflicting for him to have the same starter as someone else? He wasn't from the same batch if 3! The player trainer was the third to go along with charrin and Bianca

[@BlkboyShino9696]

Dawn and Lucas: are we a joke to you??

[@custardyboi6951]

black man Karen Jones they aren’t rivals bc u never battle against them but i hate how he says both dawn and Barry get piplup bc only one has them in the games

[@KingSlaking]

Good sir I feel like you made a mistake, Y (Yvonne) aka the manga Serena actually did have a starter croaky which is her greninja that started as a froakie.

[@Avdocado]

Like the video but just wanna point out a few things. His original name is Green in Japan since Red and Green where the first video games not Red and Blue. He is named Blue here in the west since, well, the first games were Red and Blue. Second, the Origin anime is based on the games. However the, the Hall of Fame team that Red enters with is the team Satoshi Tajiri used in his first playthrough. So it is based on the games but the reason Green has Squirtle is because Satoshi picked Charmander and they based that series of of that.

[@cupie2255]

Something that might be worth considering, is that May's parents in the anime are her parents in the game, unless you're playing as Brendan. So, if you play as May, having the 'canon' parents, and choose her true starter, Torchic, Brendan will have Mudkip as a result. Also, Jimmy, the gold protag has a true starter as Cyndaquil based off the anime, which further lends to Totodile as Silver's if you choose him. If you go off of the remakes, then Jimmy is more 'canon' as the protag than Lyra, as she exists and has a Marill following her all the time just as she did in the anime where she also had a Chikorita.

[@sebastiansalazar7765]

Technically according to the manga blue and silvers starter is scyther and sneasel also silvers synch Pokemon is probably gonna be ho-oh

[@darra5483]

Everyone knows that Silvers is Totodile because nobody would dare pick any starter besides cyndaquil its the best by far

[@SeiLa-zf1sf]

Totodile>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cyndaquil

[@DanielPereira-ey9nt]

Is funny how none of the galar rivals has a starter for their true starter, Hop has wooloo, Bede has hattena, and Marnie has morpeko, Hop does however picks a starter with you and he's prominent on the TCG pre-made cinderace deck

[@KurffyOfficial]

Pokemon Origins is the gen 1 games in the mega universe

[@custardyboi6951]

Kurffy exactly that why I hate let’s go cuz it fucks the timeline

[@Crelexy]

I say treecko for Brendon.

[@siaguamiel1787]

No mudkip :)

[@archeeeez]

Barry is hyperactive so I see him with chimchar

[@johannessguten2527]

In dp yes in platinum thats the worst choice for him to have also the only hyperactive starter is piplup fast doesnt mean hyperactive

[@the_death_court6461]

Imo- Blue/Green: Charmander Silver: Tododile Brendan: Treecko Barry: Chimchar Cheren: Snivy Bianca: Tepig Haug: Oshawott Calem: Froakie Hau: Rowlet Trace: Eevee Hop: Scorbunny

[@mehmetozturk9527]

For me i considered the trio starters of the characters (based on how i see fit, manga reference, anime reference and Games, may contain spoilers): Red: Charmender Blue:Squirtle Green: Bulbasaur (the female character in Leafgreen, in manga of Red,Green,Blue she is called Green but if i remember correctly she is also called Leaf (thus Leaf Green) in the Firered and Leafgreen manga in english versions of those manga) Gold/Ethan: Cyndaquil Silver: Totodile Crystal/Kris(want her to be Lyra at the same time tbh, but at least in the manga she is thhe same character): Chikorita Ruby/Brendan: Treecko Sapphire/May: Torchic Diamond/Lucas:Turtwig Pearl/Barry:Chimchar (fits its character as well in my opinion) Platinum/Dawn: Piplup Gen 5 -7 dont have a clear opinion yet. But for now: Black: Tepig White: Snivy (did have a Tepig too for a time) Black2&White2: not clear (didnt read the manga much after this point and just played black2 on the go) X (Male character) : Chespin (but can see him with a Froakie as well) Y/Serena: Fennekin Shauna/Trevor/Tierno: Bulbasaur/Charmander/Squirtle Sun/Elio: Litten Moon/Selene: Poplio Hau: Rowlet Gen 8: No idea

[@freddieadams8435]

X is callum

[@Fantallana]

Mehmet Öztürk wow, mine is very similar! but I changed some things, to allow the female character to be the protagonist, every second generation: Red as protagonist: bulbasaur (it has red eyes) Green/Blue/Gary as Rival: Charmander (it can have green or blue eyes) The girl character as an ally: squirtle Kris as protagonist: Cyndaquil (with blue fire to match her hair, maybe?) Silver as rival: Totodile Lyra as an ally: Chickorita Ethan as an ally: Elekid Brendan as protagonist: mudkip Zinnia as rival: treeko (mega sceptile is a dragon type) May as rival: torchic Platina/Dawn as protagonist: piplup Barry as rival: turtwig Lucas as ally: chimchar -after that my pattern kinda breaks-

[@ewyna8409]

I'd pick their starters mostly based on how i think a starter would suit a protagonist/rival or not actually, while trying to change a bit who gets what type of starter. Gen 1 would be : - female protagonist : Charmander (as i always play as the female here and Charizard is my favourite Pokemon, so i'm not leaving it to anyone else) - the rival then gets Squirtle (considering i always pick Charmander, he always had Blastoise, except fot the Yellow and Let's go games) - which leaves Bulbasaur to the male protagonist Gen 2 : - Cyndaquil for Ethan - Totodile for Silver - and Chikorita for Kris/Lyra who i consider to be the same character (after all, Red and Brendan both changed hair colour between their 1st game and their remakes and are still considered to be the same characters) Gen 3 : I actually have no idea there. Gen 4 : - i'd give Piplup to Dawn - Turtwig to Barry - and then Chimchar to Lucas Gen 5 : - Tepig to Hilbert - Oshawott to Cheren - Snivy to Bianca - Snivy to Rosa - Tepig to Hugh - Oshawott to Nate Gen 6 : - Chespin to Calem - Fennekin to Serena Gen 7 : - Popplio to Elio (it was my first pick for him before knowing the evolutions but i like that for once the male protagonist would get the feminine looking final stage starter) - Litten to Hau - Rowlet to Selene (i think it's the one who suits her the most with her SM outfit) Gen 8 : - Scorbunny to Victor - Grookey to Hop - Sobble to Gloria

[@mehmetozturk9527]

@@ewyna8409 We are selecting pretty much nearly the same way, good list, for Cheren and Bianca i couldn't remember their pick in the manga (and the games, i didnt played pokemon BW) but i did remember for Hilbert which was Tepig, i can see it fits him somewhat but Oshawott to Cheren and Snivy to Bianca fits just so well. For Red yeah, for Brendan...well we actually never knew if it was his hair or not, we just assumed it unless you read the manga back then (it is shown there it is not his hair but a cap/beanie) or you played ORAS we could not have known it or tell really well just with the character display in a battle sequence before Brendan sends out his pokemon. Kris and Lyra me too i considered them the same person(i didnt know Kris existed before, i only knew Lyra which i thought they added a female progrotagonist in the remakes, since the gameboy games Gold/Silver didnt added a female playable character (i thought they added beginning from gen 3) but i learned later on that on Pokemon Crystal they added one. But i considered them the same character as well (In the Manga they are the same character) For gen 7, you are right, if we go by outfit your list on that fits prefectly As for the rest we have similarities . Your list is solid :)

[@mehmetozturk9527]

@@Fantallana I would actually want to see that type of rival/ally matchup, Zinnia as a Rival would be awesome and the starter you said suits her as well. Kris and Lyra are the same person in the Manga but seems like they are different characters in the games. Its true Elekid fits Ethan well. I never thought of looking in the perspective of female protagonist, if since gen 1 the female protagonist were focused as much as the the male counterpart being cool (note i'm saying that if it was since gen 1, after Pokemon Crystal we got that), the starters we know today would maybe have shifted a bit. If i remember correctly, Kris/Lyra in the manga battled (like in the reality, not stat wise of pokemon) very competitively using the surroundings of the battle that is taken (and if i remember correctly she is taking into consideration the pokedex entries of pokemons, like Yellow (also a female progonist in the manga) and maybe like the others too, but i think Yellow and Kris used it a lot more than the others, especially Yellow, (spoiler a bit here: she didnt have a pokedex in the beginning and filled,what she saw/learned, in a note book) Your list is great :)

[@benedicttamago9820]

In my opinion, in RSE and ORAS, May should always use Torchic, both her counterparts on the manga and in the anime uses Torchic, and so, if you want to play as her, use Torchic and Brendan gets Mumu the Swampert, and if you want to play as Brendan, choose Treecko so that May gets her Torchic

[@xls3748]

keep up the great content :D

[@RuffledRowlit]

Thanks XLS

[@avemundana2217]

We have pokemon masters now, the new canon for videogames

[@musicmax1224]

If I ever play a Kanto game blue will have a Bulbasaur

[@michaellogozzo2073]

No in masters Silver will have Sneasle/Weavile

[@wuttatota148]

Video: Brendan would have either Treecko or Mudkip Thumbnail: T O R C H I C

[@denickart]

I'd go with Froakie for Calem since, like XY Ash, Battle Bond Greninja is technically based off his outfit

[@Noxela]

Great job, man! I love seeing these videos with a little more work put into them. This topic is also something that I think about quite a lot, so it’s nice to see someone cover it

[@SeiLa-zf1sf]

Brendan has either Mudkip or Treecko Thumbnail : *Brendan with Torchic*

[@KindaAlwaysBluish]

Based on that we can learn what 'true starter' the main character (you) uses. For example - we learn that Barry uses Piplup - which means Lucas must be using a Chimchar!

[@user-gj3ji8dt2f]

In USUM galdion has a Kanto starter depending on your starter

[@adi8450]

Blue: squirtle

[@jdmajor_gaming6432]

Just go by Pokemon Masters for the rival trainers starter pokemon. Its supposed to be a a canon game

[@jordynisboredyn]

When Kris gets Totodile, Lyra gets Chikorita, And Ethan gets Cyndaquil in pokemon masters

[@robertparkhurst4034]

Silver honestly looks like a Sneasel/Weavile guy anyways... Although, that Ho-oh tease during the 1/2 Year Anniversary Trailer...

[@Stevenbfg]

Kris had pretty much been over overwritten by Lyra in canon which would leave Tododile for Silver.

[@robertparkhurst4034]

Scuba Steve Which would be mostly true, If both Kris and Lyra weren’t in Masters together

[@big_c3426]

I think it was pretty obvious who Bianca’s starter was cause her starter is always strong against cherens

[@xoddnothingxi6244]

Silver's is totadile because in Pokemon masters Gold has cyndaquil

[@custardyboi6951]

Gladion has a Kanto starter

[@AmshaMorgan]

I think the starters from the pokemon adventures/pokemon special manga are the really ones. The events in those more closely related to what happens in the games. The characters are even named off the games. P.s. Wally used Treecko in a disaster because Emerald who should have received the Treecko did show up.

[@paulgrotebeverborg1119]

I find Feraligatr fit Silver the best anyways

[@saylessstudios6749]

You forgot Dawn & Diamond from D,P, Platinum

[@RuffledRowlit]

She is a pseudo rival :)

[@LunykStormdragon]

4:19 “May is a bit of a strange one” ...how???

[@weiss1230]

he literally explains right after he says that

[@thegingerchewbaccasloth2925]

We’ll just have to wait to see what his sync pair for silver Pokemon masters be like silver gets ho oh

[@OmegaX5000]

What would you say is Silvers starter if his partner in Masters winds up being his Crobat? You know, to embody his character arc through the game mechanics, seeing as his Golbat evolved after he became a decent person rather than an arrogant jerk. And now Masters has revealed that his partner in Ho-Oh of all things! That really caught me off-guard, since he never comes CLOSE to Ho-Oh in any media, as far as I'm aware. Unless he was involved with Ho-oh in the Adventures manga, but I haven't read that since the early issues of the Yellow chapter.

[@Abigdummy4life]

I've done this for NPCs via the Pokemon teams I find personally fitting for them.

[@FN64Productions]

As powerful as Wally and your gen 3 starter rival get I just realized I dont remember them helping with Magma/Aqua

[@jamaljefferson8387]

Hugh had his starter from an egg he got

[@wolfslacher5731]

Does this mean green's name in Japan is blue? Like blue is green in japan

[@dannigro8794]

I never would’ve guessed squirtle for Gary in the anime. I always figured bulbasaur since squirtle is weak to Pikachu.

[@SeiLa-zf1sf]

I think they gave Blastoise a Gary because Ash has a Charizard

[@custardyboi6951]

Dan Nigro but ash has three Kanto starters and only one evolves which is carizard and Gary has blastoise mirroring red and blue Pikachu and blastoise never fight but Gary does have a evee that fights Pikachu and eveoles into umbreon

[@georgebrowniii3850]

8:13 ? in the manga Y got a froakie

[@SharyK-_0]

My fav rival is berry from dpp

[@T39Omi]

You click baited about Gary on thumbnail

[@windowsos4029]

Apparently, how characters are portrayed in Pokémon Masters are canon but not the region. So I guess based on this, the way these characters act and what Pokémon they use is apparently canon. I could be wrong though.

[@jorgegonzalezavila9376]

I personally can't see the rivals with any other starter that isn't the one they get after I choose my favorite: *Blue* -> Squirtle if boy, Charmander if girl *Silver* -> Totodile if boy, Cyndaquil if girl *Brendan* -> Mudkip *May* -> Torchic *Barry* -> Piplup if boy, Turtwig if girl *Bianca* -> Snivy if boy, Oshawott if girl *Cheren* -> Oshawott if boy, Tepig if girl *Hugh* -> Snivy if boy, Tepig if girl *Serena* -> Chespin (this is one of the only two exceptions; even if I think that Fennekin suits her better, I actually like Greninja too much) *Calem* -> Froakie *Shauna* -> Fennekin if boy (this is one of the only two exceptions; even if I think that Froakie suits her better, I actually like Greninja too much), Chespin if girl *Hau* -> Rowlet if boy, Litten if girl *Prof. Kukui* -> Popplio if boy, Rowlet if girl *Hop* -> Grookey if boy, Sobble if girl *Leon* -> Sobble if boy, Scorbunny if girl

[@iloveapples4918]

Do Leon count as rival?

[@arcade6443]

U forgot Wally

[@jorgegonzalezavila9376]

@@iloveapples4918 he gets a starter, like Prof. Kukui, so I'm listing him

[@jorgegonzalezavila9376]

@@arcade6443 no, because he has Ralts instead of a starter

[@iloveapples4918]

@@jorgegonzalezavila9376 yeah make sense

[@CrimsonCodex528]

in pokemon tower defense 2 when you go into the past silver has a feraligatr

[@mozzy2968]

I like thinking of Silver using Chikorita, mostly because Chikorita is very happy and I think that the good nature of his starter would rub off on him. I like this because throughout the game he remains serious but becomes more kind as he grows throughout his journey. I just think it is more fitting for him to get a starter that he learns from, rather than one who would encourage him to not change.

[@nerdyravenclaw4325]

In origins blue wanted Charmander but red got it first so he then chose Squirtle

[@SeiLa-zf1sf]

Oh really? I do not remember this

[@oliverleonard7730]

Gary started with Squirtle as he has a Blastoise.

[@eastonwilliams2026]

Row let is my favorite Pokemon