Bought mine in 2018, had failure to eject after 500 rnds so installed Mcarbo extractor and bolthead pins along with shock buffer and it's run like a top ever since. Always hated frontheavy feel till I installed the Magpul stock kit. Now feels right.
@LootDropShepherd Жыл бұрын
Did all the same upgrades, for the same reason, couldn't be happier. Thing runs like a dream, love this gun
@wbwills2 Жыл бұрын
Thx for the advice.
@davidm554810 ай бұрын
This is one of the few options for a semi modern rifle in states with “assault weapon” bans.
@billglueck9705 Жыл бұрын
Just picked up the PC Carbine Magpul take down backpack version today. I want one semi auto carbine for home defense/truck/RV/bugout/survival and this rifle will do all this and more for me in a made in the USA package that accepts Glock & Ruger mags. I am a big fan of Ruger's hunting rifles including the M77 and 10-22 as well as their semi auto pistols. Great job Ruger making another quality weapon in the USA that has so many practical applications.
@Andrew_is_tall Жыл бұрын
Just picked up mine yesterday! Your video was one of the main ones that helped me make my decision, thanks for the breakdown!
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Glad we could help. Thanks for watching and enjoy the gun.
@WolfMage8888 ай бұрын
Brilliant suggestions on the minor upgrades - due to this I became your newest member!
@stevewest1367 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on the Upgrades, is it possible for you to post a list of the products you used for the upgrades
@oliverrahn7274 Жыл бұрын
Really good info with the part upgrades. I didn’t see anyone else mention these potential failure points. The consensus is the magpul is definitely the way to go. I’ll be picking one of these up as my next firearm purchase. Thanks from up north 🇨🇦
@Thizlamic Жыл бұрын
I've got one of the first run PC Carbines well over 5000 rounds through it. Not a single hiccup though I am pretty religious about cleaning it after range day. Regular Stock, Zhukov Forend, SeeAll Open Site, and Steel Ruger Mags...Its a Lazerbeam out to 100. Next upgrade is that Backpacker stock to lose some weight. GREAT VIDEO.
@JW-vl5or Жыл бұрын
This video is throughly enjoyable. You helped me make up my mind between the backpacker stock and the free floating handguard model. Thnx
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Thanks JW. So glad it helped. Enjoy and good luck. Thanks for watching.
@ericb.4358 Жыл бұрын
RUGER's cold hammer forged barrel is truly world class.
@FyrFytr998 Жыл бұрын
As Tom stated. PC Carbine owners would do their weapons justice by upgrading some of the internal parts sold by MCarbo. I had issues with FTE's until I upgraded, and then it never had a problem again.
@striker1md100 Жыл бұрын
I love mine. MCARBO overhaul with Volquarsten trigger pack. Upgrades make a huge difference. Night and day.
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Minor overhauls can make a big difference. Thanks for watching!
@donrichter3523 Жыл бұрын
Very good review, not the usual social influencer kind. I have a somewhat early one that came in the black plastic stock, which isn’t bad, but I bought the Magpul stock in FDE since I’m moving to the desert. I like it for the tougher small game up thru coyotes. I have a double optic setup, micro red dot and a 2-7 rimfire scope if using for hunting. I’ve got a bunch of 9BPLE, which is just dynamite in this barrel. It’s hitting about 1600fps and even at 50-75 yds, still expands great. I wanted a CZ 22mag semi-auto, but they discontinued it, so this is taking the place of it, while also making a good SD gun with the red dot. And it costs no more to feed than a 22mag, with surprisingly good accuracy. It really doesn’t give up accuracy to an 22mag, and kills with far more authority.
@ca2129 Жыл бұрын
The magpul stock looks like it solved the number one problem I have which is the sling stud under the butt of the stock. Also when shooting a “Rifle & Pistol Challenge” the factory trigger.... needs work. My hesitation to the magpul stock it I like to grab all they way out by the front of the rifle and push my elbow through my sling.
@lydgate3419 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the specific upgrade info. I think many of us would like to see some hollow-point defensive ammo run through it.
@spacebear496 ай бұрын
The 21rd 9mm Glock PMAG fits PERFECTLY in the stock storage space. Pretty sure it was made for that. Also, didn't hear it mentioned, but there's a smaller storage space in the grip that appears to be moisture resistant. Great place to keep the included allen wrenches, etc...
@mwmag5 ай бұрын
Agree 100%
@alanfine98257 ай бұрын
I just ordered one today in Commiefornia.....grew up in Chicago so I was interested in your review. I ordered the Mcarbo kit/springs....will check out the main spring and plate too. It's my first "plinker" carbine & I am looking forward to trying it out. Thx for your great review.
@Keithjmcc Жыл бұрын
I have the chassis model. This is a good gun, we have a few PCCs this one holds up with guns that were twice the price. Good video thanks
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bobcat409 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful upgrades. Thank you.
@danner209 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys!
@erikwolfarng Жыл бұрын
I have the Chassis (19122) version. I use it as a "Truck Gun" as well as for occasional plinking. My rifle is pretty accurate out to 150 yards but I honestly haven't tried anything further. I love the upgrades you did. I've often looked at my stock blowback system and wondered just how "safe" this plastic stop really is? Great video!
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Crazy how accurate it is out to 100 and even 150 yards right? Especially for a 9mm. The upgrades make a significant difference for sure. Thanks for the great feedback and good luck with any upgrades. Let us know how you did. Thanks for watching!
@nemo533511 ай бұрын
no reason to try out that far with a 9mm imo. not what it's built to do. i think the drop for 9mm at 200 yds is like 30 in?
@earthling01 Жыл бұрын
MCarbo really made some great improvements, even the trigger pull they did made a huge difference. Great piece!
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ericb.4358 Жыл бұрын
As of 2023 I can't find an MCARBO trigger fix. They must have dropped it.
@augurseer4 ай бұрын
I had issues with the PMC in my first 150 rounds. About 5 stove pipes.
@jeffadams9807 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE That Magpul Stock, Great Video... I Have This PCC & I Love It, I Have 3 Fun Stick's & 3 G19 Mag's...
@tucsonjack39913 ай бұрын
Try switching the rear QD to the other side. It will hang better.
@lukeywalsh Жыл бұрын
My model with the MLOK handguard is very front heavy. I wish I got the standard base model. The Magpul stock might not have been out at the time. I had one FTE in the first mag. The following 800 rounds (FMJ, JHP, +P, ARX) ran flawlessly.
@ilovebanks1526 Жыл бұрын
The MLOK version could be upgraded to the magpul stock but you may need to buy a few extra parts from the research I did.
@bizboomer Жыл бұрын
First time seeing your channel. Excellent! It bothers me though that after dropping a grand on this rifle, that any mods have to be done. This fine video begs another one comparing this Ruger to the new S&W and Henry offerings in this class. Thank you!
@Pichouette5 ай бұрын
I have this in .40 S&W and recently installed a Magpul Backpacker stock on it. I much prefer the Backpacker stock.
@mwmag5 ай бұрын
Sounds awesome
@spitfireaace6 ай бұрын
I should add that I didn't clean it since factory but now I did take it apart. Easy to go through a lot of rounds with this carbine, and you are going to get carboned up at some point.
@mwmag5 ай бұрын
Yes. This is a gun that needs to be cleaned fir sure
@mrrealtynyc Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most underrated gun channels out there right now. Fantastic content, keep it up! What torque wrench/screwdriver set do you recommend for "gunsmithing"? Thank you!
@stephenedwards503810 ай бұрын
So glad to see this video, even a year late.. gonna work on some of these upgrades, really like the Magpul stock and thinking about the stiffer springs...
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I had the worst luck with my Ruger 10/22. It has major issues with feeding and ejecting. Of course it's cleaned and I tried many different types of ammo, it happens on all of them. I upgraded all the internals and still has issues. I got a dud for sure. That kinda put a bad taste in my mouth for Ruger. My Ruger SR9c works flawlessly!
@tommccormick9290 Жыл бұрын
What type of magazines were you using? Sometimes problems can also arise with cheap, bulk ammo.
@Thomas-yw9eo Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you might have a problem from cheap bulk ammo. Try some quality ammo like CCI.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
@@Thomas-yw9eo stock ruger magazines / even the 10 round mag does the same time. I've tried all different types of ammo, and cleaned / oiled the gun... Nothing helps!
@tommccormick9290 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Final solution is to ship it to the factory to correct the possible defect. I've done that twice to guns from reputable companies with great results. Only hassles are the wait to get it back. Some companies like S&W will pay for shipping but I don't know about Ruger. Glock didn't.
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
@@tommccormick9290 bad thing is UPS doesn't ship guns for private individuals anymore. I'm not sure how FEDEX is now. I called them up a bit ago and they gave me a form to ship it back with. Ruger requires me to pay shipping which isn't horrible.
@robinobrien6738 Жыл бұрын
Could you make a list of the up grade you did to this gun and post them please. Just got this gun and want to do this upgrades to mine.
@tucsonjack39914 ай бұрын
Y'all sure don't look like salesmen but you went and sold me on this.
@philipdove17057 ай бұрын
Imagine the deer hunting capability if this was in 10mm
@mwmag5 ай бұрын
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!
@yamaharider80142 ай бұрын
I see that Ruger is now offering a PC10. Someone commented, 9mm for the hood and 10mm for the woods!
@stevebillieroberts9582Ай бұрын
@@mwmagis 9mm even capable of deer hunting
@bocconomАй бұрын
I know this video is a year old but I will most likely be buying one in a day or two. So for those that have shot it over time what grains do you find shoot best: 115, 124, or something else?
@ericb.4358 Жыл бұрын
I have a 9 mm RUGER PC chassis carbine. BUT WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?? My PC chassis carbine has all the stuff you did (with an MCARBO bolt recoil pad), MCARBO mag release lever and mini brake. Plus a LOT of MAGPUL furniture, MBUS sights, sling, etc. I also have the OEM stock on a Midwest Industries folding stock. A HOLOSUN AEMS circle dot sight sits on top and IMHO it is THE best PCC sight. ** In my MAGPUL pistol grip I keep all the Allen and TORX wrenches I need plus spare batteries for the AEMS.
@richardrivera3704 Жыл бұрын
U can keep a g 26 magazine when u have it taken down
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for the information.
@3waver4 ай бұрын
Does mounting the optic on the rail hold zero? Ideally you mount on the barrel.
@toddm9501 Жыл бұрын
So whats the total upgrade cost. I'm thinking of buying the basic Ruger, then oordering the Magpul stock in FDE.
@chriszebley88128 ай бұрын
Loved the video and just purchased one. Am looking to do some of the upgrades you mentioned. What do ypu think of the M*Carbo Ruger PCC Performance Package?
@AlexanderRacing358 Жыл бұрын
Great video I have been wanting one since they came out!!
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
You'll enjoy it for sure. Very nice gun with multiple uses for sure. Thanks for watching.
@vensheaalara Жыл бұрын
Will it run the magpul rotary mag?
@joefw24465 ай бұрын
Great info. Thanks!
@mwmag5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@noc3147 ай бұрын
What scope is that? great video
@mercercraft7224 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Did you say what scope was on the rifle? Anyone know?
@trenacook7694 Жыл бұрын
I concur. Nice job gentlemen.
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@tucsonjack39916 ай бұрын
Do you know what the length of pull is ? Thanks
@kearnstools1331 Жыл бұрын
Did you change to a polymer magazine catch as to not mess up glock magazines
@colt10mmsecurity68 Жыл бұрын
Yup, that is critically important in order to protect the “lip” on the Glock mags. So many people ignore that fact.
@kearnstools1331 Жыл бұрын
@@colt10mmsecurity68 where did you get the polymer mag catch from
@tazmax72 Жыл бұрын
I've bought the internal upgrades too..haven't installed them yet..but I know it's coming..
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Good idea. Well worth it. Thanks for sharing and for watching.
@wbwills2 Жыл бұрын
Got some stuff for a LCP II 22 from mccarbo. Reasonable prices. I thought. & a few things from another company. Before I found all the stuff online,put a older brick of cci through it + some cheap ammo I had around..all straight out of the box. As is no lube or anything. Very Minimal cleaning .2-3 ammo related malfunctions. parts arrived & I started working on it without the right punch set /tools on a block I made with a scrap of 2x4. Dead tiered,hunched over the coffee table,after midnight & some beers..gun ran great (heard more than 1 person talking about 2-3-4 returns to ruger for warrantee work & pistol still not working right)long story long…mine is in pieces in a cigar box still. Boogerd up a pin or 2 .didn’t know what I was doing. How much should it cost for a real gunsmith to fix it up for me?in NC? Advice? Thx.
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Hi Mary. Unless you damaged a component I can't imagine they'd charge a ton bc it's pretty simple work. Do you know anyone who has gun knowledge bc they might be able to help as well. Good luck and hope it works out. Also don't give up. Everyone starts sometime and we've all had our issues. Kudos for being brace enough to try. You'll get there before you know it 😉
@Vuntermonkey Жыл бұрын
Nice review and discussion. My bank account is scared now.
@MichaelBeirens7 ай бұрын
I just bought this gun can you please link the items you used for your upgrades. I have been out of shooting for numerous years like 25 and am just starting up again.
@marsiloficino5060 Жыл бұрын
Best review yet
@tankmeister8131 Жыл бұрын
How does it compare to the Henry
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Great question and I honestly can't answer that bc I haven't had the pleasure of shooting one. Sorry. Thanks for watching
@jackroberts4342 Жыл бұрын
Notice you had a QD sling was wondering how you attached it to the stock in front of the rifle, I have the same rifle and cutey sling, but can’t seem to find the part in order to attach it to the rifle.
@philb5 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information!! I thought of purchasing one but I am not going to pay around 820$ and then have to upgrade it .
@Atothe74203 ай бұрын
Idk for me it comes down to grouping that defines accuracy. 10/22 take down is famous accuracy to shift.
@THSPDIY7 ай бұрын
Did ruger ever upgrade any of these issues from factory.
@greenscool Жыл бұрын
Can i swap the front end magpul handguard with the midwest industries mlok? i know that it probably wont be able to be "taken down and fit together" but i want to explore replacing that piece only while keeping the magpul stock and hand grip option. Thank you!
@jimbob73329 ай бұрын
What charging handle is that?
@videogazer801 Жыл бұрын
This a super resourceful video!!! 👍
@stevenmiller1844 ай бұрын
A fun gun to shoot. Too heavy to use as a "Backpack" gun. The bckpacker stock does help but it is still too heavy. I would say a "Backpack" gun should weigh 4 pounds. This kind of rules out any blowback system which requires a heavy bolt.
@noc3147 ай бұрын
Where did you buy the buffer at and the spring?
@mwmag5 ай бұрын
Believe this one was Midway USA.
@flavalistic38444 ай бұрын
How does it run with hollowpoints?
@G0MERP316 күн бұрын
Just fine, runs great with the Speer gold dots and HSTs in 124 gr.
@KD-lb9bg Жыл бұрын
Good video, good of you to go over the replacement and “wear” parts. I figure on replacing the extractor, ejector, and magazine release internals (to not chew up Glock mags) with MCarbo parts after a few range trips.
@wbwills2 Жыл бұрын
Off topic I know but you guys know what to do. Subscribed. Thx
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome to the midmagger community.
@adamwoldenga718 Жыл бұрын
What kind of scope are you using
@darkstarshooter7974 Жыл бұрын
In the video they stated it was an Aimpoint PRO
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Darkstar is right - Aimpoint PRO.
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
As always, thanks Darkstar! You're a rock star my friend.
@texasfarmer3367 Жыл бұрын
Any idea how much lighter the Magpul stock is?
@boxbox230011 ай бұрын
Honestly not that much
@texasfarmer33679 ай бұрын
.6lb
@jdam568 Жыл бұрын
Could they have made it any uglier?? The older PC carbines looked better than the newer ones, IMO.
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Can't argue much J DAM. Nice gun but not best looking gun. Thanks for watching
@allenhansen25305 ай бұрын
It breaks down and is 50% shorter for backpacking
@tazmax72 Жыл бұрын
Rather have the stock in camouflage
@kerrykitterman46023 ай бұрын
Excellent video 😮😊 great information..I've had several, got gid of them because of reliability issues..now I'm going for another..what don't you like about chassis model.?? I need a collapsible stock ..?? 😂 Thanks for the excellent video 😊new sub .!!😮😊😊😊
@paulspielman2517 Жыл бұрын
Where to get these obscure parts?
@dtsh4451 Жыл бұрын
MCARBO has different upgrade packages and runs sales regularly.
@chippooutdoors5325 Жыл бұрын
WOULD YOU STILL OWN THIS IF YOU DID NO UPGRADES???
@aaronwilcox6417 Жыл бұрын
For the cost of the Ruger PCC it needs to come with quality components.
@williamtarr9758 Жыл бұрын
Just bought one today
@SilenceDoGood4th Жыл бұрын
im a mash the threads over tightening type of guy lol
@spitfireaace6 ай бұрын
I've had about 400 rounds through mine. One stovepipe.
@mwmag5 ай бұрын
It's reliable for sure.
@story123411 ай бұрын
Why is this $9xx?
@phillippearce9680 Жыл бұрын
👍
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@alfred-mi2wt Жыл бұрын
😂 this was one of the worst rifles I ever bought. I should have left the stock mag assembly in place. That Glock mag well sucks. The thirty round sticks would wobble like a loose tooth. I have heard though that not changing that unit out makes for a better shooting experience.
@MegaBait1616 Жыл бұрын
Thousand bucks with tax n back-round check for a PCC.... smh..... Nice lil carbine though... be well.
@mongrelrogers9642 Жыл бұрын
Huh? $625 out the door… (Not bad for 2023. More like $425 back in 2018). Perfect “Gray-Man” gun.
@chadhaire1711 Жыл бұрын
So let me get this right: we spend $700 for this rifle then have to spend more money to replace all the crap plastic/cast junk parts to make it work? Or better choice just buy a Beretta CX4 9mm carbine that has been proven with years of police and military use for same money......oh but it doesn't take Glock mags? Boo Hoo. I pass on this turd.
@peterhealey2668 Жыл бұрын
Ok, so you don't like the Ruger. Well I think the Beretta is a piece of crap in that it's an ugly mother with it's pistol grip and the controls are in awkward positions. The sights are shit and the trigger has a lot of slop, so not the great gun you claim.
@andyleotell Жыл бұрын
Lol!
@chadhaire1711 Жыл бұрын
@@peterhealey2668 That Beretta CX4 is police and military issue Goober......both semi and full auto SMG versions with 100% proven track record over years of use......but your girly fingers can't handle that military trigger, so go with that sporty Ruger that will fall apart after 1,000 rounds......go back to your video games kid..Call Of Duty is waiting...
@peterhealey2668 Жыл бұрын
@@chadhaire1711 When I spoke about the gun I wasn't making a personal attack on you, just saying I didn't like the rifle but you want to get offended and start bitching like a child. Maybe you should take a look at yourself and try and calm your anger.
@EvanEJHall Жыл бұрын
Put a binary trigger in it. Trust me lol
@utubejoe11 Жыл бұрын
needs a new hobby
@mwmag Жыл бұрын
Says utubejoe11 lol
@1979Spica6 ай бұрын
Guns are awesome but you need to spend more time on the toothbrush.