Rumble, Frenzy, And Transformer's Oldest Debate

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@JonCrs10
@JonCrs10 19 күн бұрын
They are identical twins wearing each other's clothes as a joke, Rumble is the one that isn't Frenzy. Frenzy is the one that isn't Rumble.
@xenith8286
@xenith8286 19 күн бұрын
Schrodinger's cassettes
@EL-uj1pl
@EL-uj1pl 19 күн бұрын
this is the correct answer
@Kaizer617
@Kaizer617 19 күн бұрын
Me, I personally don't care which one is which. I personally think they like to randomly switch colors every other day to mess with the other Decepticons.
@jetseekers
@jetseekers 18 күн бұрын
At least I know which one is Fumble and which is Renzy
@Kaizer617
@Kaizer617 18 күн бұрын
Lol
@flameusprime5332
@flameusprime5332 19 күн бұрын
I believe in the theory they can swap their colors whenever they want to confuse enemies or just purely for pranks
@ryanharper2898
@ryanharper2898 19 күн бұрын
Me too
@Varatho
@Varatho 19 күн бұрын
It really is the best theory, and fits with their characterization.
@greengald6252
@greengald6252 19 күн бұрын
Yes! I do think keeping Rumble as the one with pile drivers and Frenzy with the sonic waves is a good idea to distinguish which one is actually which tho.
@zaaknicolas7638
@zaaknicolas7638 19 күн бұрын
this is my cannon now
@Crimson_Crow88
@Crimson_Crow88 18 күн бұрын
I have always had this belief
@legomania2427
@legomania2427 19 күн бұрын
Red just makes more sense for a guy named for FRENZY
19 күн бұрын
BOOM.
@D0ASKE
@D0ASKE 19 күн бұрын
based
@axelnightmare
@axelnightmare 18 күн бұрын
Imagine hating alliteration
@bennewbury2572
@bennewbury2572 18 күн бұрын
Yes! Thank you!
@AcePianoNoises
@AcePianoNoises 19 күн бұрын
The truth is Rumble and Frenzy just go with whatever Megatron/Soundwave happens to call them bc are YOU gonna argue with the boss?
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 19 күн бұрын
They are basically the same guy. They even have the same voice.
@megatronacepticon
@megatronacepticon 19 күн бұрын
Transformers is canonically a multiversal series, so there really is no debate seeing as it objectively depends on the continuity you're talking about.
@RenjiAbarai777
@RenjiAbarai777 19 күн бұрын
Now see, this guy has the right idea. He brought the brown pants!
@KRBrickBot
@KRBrickBot 19 күн бұрын
Personally I prefer Red Rumble and Blue Frenzy not just because the precedent G1 toys but also it feels natural to associate blue with high-frequency sonics, and red noise with low heavy rumbly frequencies.
@Roboshi2007
@Roboshi2007 19 күн бұрын
but in the language of colour, red is often associated with anger and well a "frenzy" while blue is often a softer colour the word "rumble" might align with.
19 күн бұрын
I feel.similarly - but the exact inverse 😂
@samurexatlas7373
@samurexatlas7373 19 күн бұрын
Let's also not forget "Who's Cyclonus and Scourge?" I really wish we could ask the storyboarders that and get a genuine answer.
@Cassius335
@Cassius335 19 күн бұрын
I think TJ did that video...
@samurexatlas7373
@samurexatlas7373 19 күн бұрын
@@Cassius335 but no one will ever agree
@cuddyfox6973
@cuddyfox6973 19 күн бұрын
@@samurexatlas7373 Also go for the true Megatron origin or the Constructicons origin.
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 19 күн бұрын
@@cuddyfox6973the Matrix basically lied when it showed the constructicons making Megs. Also AKOM errors galore in those episodes. But…the constructicons still had a past on Cybertron with Omega… not TJ, the other one.
@Rabbitlord108
@Rabbitlord108 18 күн бұрын
I still think Skywarp became Scourge and experienced a personality change in the process.
@RodimusMinor1987
@RodimusMinor1987 19 күн бұрын
My gripe they're not red and blue they're black and purple, the black one has only a few red parts yet people say that he's red 😂
@J_Rad48
@J_Rad48 19 күн бұрын
IKR
@nucleonegro9762
@nucleonegro9762 19 күн бұрын
And the purple one has a few blue parts and they say he's blue
@RodimusMinor1987
@RodimusMinor1987 19 күн бұрын
@nucleonegro9762 Exactly, whomever started this debate must have been colour blind 🙄, by that logic Megatron is red and Optimus is blue
@NovaSaber
@NovaSaber 18 күн бұрын
RIPFIB
@Varatho
@Varatho 19 күн бұрын
My Theory is that they swap colors just to screw with everyone, and hang out with Soundwave because he is the only one who can get in on the joke due to his mind-reading powers.
@russellharrell2747
@russellharrell2747 19 күн бұрын
I love how the 2007 movie had two Cons with minicon partners while the autobots start collecting squishy human partners
@RevengeoftheBallen831
@RevengeoftheBallen831 19 күн бұрын
I grew up with the cartoon, so for me, Frenzy is red and Rumble is blue.
@green_was_taken
@green_was_taken 19 күн бұрын
They're both green
@luccalm7859
@luccalm7859 19 күн бұрын
The colorblind answer
19 күн бұрын
To quote Hugh Dennis.
@KLorrSTorMGamiNG
@KLorrSTorMGamiNG 19 күн бұрын
just say "Red Frumble" and "Blue Frumble". you will both ALWAYS be right, and forever piss off both camps
@thetruehellfiregaming3685
@thetruehellfiregaming3685 19 күн бұрын
Im so glad im not the only one who says "red/blue frumble"
@BainesMkII
@BainesMkII 19 күн бұрын
The screen shot of Rumble, Ravage, and Laserbeak together makes me wonder if the TV series had intended to use the red Rumble, as that would have given the three primary cassettes a matching (allowing for Ravage to be off with dark and light grey) red/black/white color scheme. Choosing to use blue instead associates the humanoid cassette more with Soundwave than with the animal cassettes.
@shadowynne
@shadowynne 19 күн бұрын
Underrated comment, really interesting take.
@Undrave
@Undrave 19 күн бұрын
Cartoon Rumble is LILAC! Blue is just a secondary color! So Frenzy is the BLACK one!
@OptimusPhillip
@OptimusPhillip 19 күн бұрын
What's weirder is that the Legacy Rumble is explicitly marketed as "toy colors", because he uses the more muted shades of blue from the original toy... of Frenzy. Personally, I've gone back and forth. Long before I sat down to watch the show, I had books identifying Rumble as red, and that's how I thought of it for a while. But once I did watch the cartoon, I watched it enough to let the blue Rumble dominate my head. Then, more recently, it hit me: the cartoon didn't have Rumble and Frenzy. It had two Rumbles in two different colors, one of which was called Frenzy. They had the same powers, the same personality, they didn't even get that much screen time apart from each other. The only times in fiction where the difference mattered, Rumble was red. So that's my general rule today. Rumble is red, Frenzy is blue. But it's hard to kick the cartoon bias.
@RedneckOgre9000
@RedneckOgre9000 19 күн бұрын
Rumble is blue. Frenzy is red.
@lonewolf9578
@lonewolf9578 19 күн бұрын
It’s such a stupid argument with an easy answer
@otaking3582
@otaking3582 19 күн бұрын
Renzy is purple. Frumble is purple.
@mecha53107
@mecha53107 19 күн бұрын
​Yes! Finally someone speaks this truth
@BrotatoSkins
@BrotatoSkins 19 күн бұрын
Rumble is Rumble. Frenzy is Red.
@Stagedive2399
@Stagedive2399 19 күн бұрын
@@BrotatoSkins wait what
@takanuinuva
@takanuinuva 19 күн бұрын
The debate could also stem from the fact that Frenzy could be seen synonymous with Rage and when someone is depicted enraged. They are usually red. Also probably just me but the name Rumble just gives off a blue vibe instead of Red.
@Denzimus
@Denzimus 19 күн бұрын
I'm just here wishing they'd restock these figures lol
@DragoonMS
@DragoonMS 19 күн бұрын
Or to even stock them in the first place (most Targets and Walmarts near me got Rumble, but they never got Frenzy)...
@hairball178
@hairball178 19 күн бұрын
Only seen Rumble once, never even seen Frenzy at retail. Had a BBTS preorder for over a year, assumed it'd never be fulfilled & overpaid on the aftermarket...just in time for BBTS to receive a new shipment recently
@ShaneSkaalerud-nk2jk
@ShaneSkaalerud-nk2jk 19 күн бұрын
1:11 are you trying to start a war? I'm going with the cartoon. Because that's where I grew up with. Frenzy is red/rumble is light purplish blue.
@ArcheTelos
@ArcheTelos 19 күн бұрын
Frenzy uses high-frequency sonics, Rumble uses low-frequency vibrations. Blue light has a short wavelength and high frequency, red light has a long wavelength and low frequency. Blue is associated with sound, red is associated with earth. Blue Frenzy and Red Rumble just makes more sense.
@wybob6508
@wybob6508 19 күн бұрын
Actually, frenzy is green and rumble is orange
@AJUniverse
@AJUniverse 19 күн бұрын
My policy when it comes to this argument is to just say whatever makes the other guy yell loudest.
@Shade2800
@Shade2800 19 күн бұрын
When I first saw Frenzy, it was a book to coincide with the 2007 movie. There was a section that showed the original G1 forms of all the Transformers showing up in the movie, and they showed Blue Frenzy. So at least in my eyes, Frenzy is blue and Rumble is red.
@KamenRiderSeiryuXV0
@KamenRiderSeiryuXV0 19 күн бұрын
Frenzy is the violet-sky blue who take the chills, while Rumble is the black-red is the rough rowdy trait. Period.
@directorscarlett1932
@directorscarlett1932 19 күн бұрын
I had an 07 Deluxe Barricade as a kid and the Frenzy he came with was red instead of silver
@samurexatlas7373
@samurexatlas7373 19 күн бұрын
I had the Blumbe from TF:P myself. I loved him and Vehicon.
@kodakai727
@kodakai727 19 күн бұрын
For me it's never been a nostalgia thing, as my first fictions were Animated and '07. For me, it's more of a 'bouba v. kiki' phenomenon. Rumble sounds blue to me, and Frenzy just sounds red.
@raevir
@raevir 19 күн бұрын
It just made more sense to me that Frenzy would be blue because Soundwave was blue and Frenzy had the audio related power.
19 күн бұрын
Rumble's power is also audio-related. They have the same 'drum-like structures' in their chest they roll together to produce sound; in Frenzy's case, ultrasound which affects the minds of his enemies.(not unlike what Dirge does) and Rumble produces infrasound, which causes reverbations in the ground to cause tremors (which is kinda like Thundercracker's deal). I am guessing some translation error gave the boys their famous piledrivers. Rumble is described as having the attitude of a street punk, imho rather laconic, while Frenzy is a battle-hungry psycho. Red seems to suit him better.
@Captain_Timezone
@Captain_Timezone 19 күн бұрын
0:49 if your confused, rumble is the one next to frenzy
@ryvyl
@ryvyl 19 күн бұрын
The debate isn't whether Rumble is red or blue, the debate is "What is your Rumble, toy or cartoon?" In the G1 toyline, Rumble is black and red, Frenzy is dark blue and blue. In the G1 cartoon, Rumble is violet and blue with Frenzy being black and red. Personally, I roll with the toys since they came first and everything is based on them (and bio/tech specs also present their original personalities, which are drastically altered or ignored altogether by the cartoon). But that's me.
@jeffreytempleton3213
@jeffreytempleton3213 19 күн бұрын
I go by toy also...i loved the cartoon, but the cartoon was riddled with errors.
@beatrixwickson8477
@beatrixwickson8477 19 күн бұрын
My second ever Transformer toy was the two pack of Ravage and Rumble, so in my head I think of Rumble as red. But Rumble also being blue is such a long standing error now I don't consider it an error. So sometimes he's blue. There's not a single answer, it just depends on the individual instance. I do feel like whether he's red or blue, Rumble is still the favourite for most people so it's funny that Frenzy was the Bayverse incarnation.
@QueenStodge
@QueenStodge 18 күн бұрын
The shot of Rumble's production sheet is from Heavy Metal War.
@morMICRO
@morMICRO 18 күн бұрын
I always imagined they interchanged colors just to annoy other bots
@meatblazestudios3778
@meatblazestudios3778 18 күн бұрын
ROTF Rampage and Skipjack have a similar debate about "Which is the red one"
@travishoel3755
@travishoel3755 19 күн бұрын
"First we crack the shell" "Then we'll crack the nuts inside"
@cybersilver5816
@cybersilver5816 19 күн бұрын
Rumble is red Frenzy is too The answer is however Hasbro markets it to you
@visionaryventures12
@visionaryventures12 19 күн бұрын
I was always with Rumble red Frenzy blue. I copied the tech specs in 1984 carefully. All these years, I wondered why the kids didn’t just see the toys were labeled that way, despite the cartoon.
@mikeyfourbarrel8473
@mikeyfourbarrel8473 18 күн бұрын
Great analysts! Even going back to 84/85, this never bothered me or any friends. The toy Rumble was red, the character was blue. I never remember being confused! I can’t be alone in that. Either way, the tapes are pure joy in both toy and character form. Long live Transformers!
@johnmonroe2994
@johnmonroe2994 18 күн бұрын
I grew up on the G1 show. Rumble is blue. Frenzy is red. That's where I stand.
@waverod9275
@waverod9275 18 күн бұрын
I dearly wish the red and black version of the SS86 Rumble mode was released as "Decepticon Rumble (Red)".
@hypermegaman3145
@hypermegaman3145 19 күн бұрын
I go with the cartoon so Rumble Is blue Frenzy is Red!
@ViandaAirikala
@ViandaAirikala 18 күн бұрын
Someday I'd love to see a Transformers cartoon that goes in on the joke and have Rumble and Frenzy intentionally switch colors every time they appear to confuse the Autobots (and the audience)
@halite_g
@halite_g 19 күн бұрын
Thing 1, Thing 2. Problem solved
@Fuz_noodle
@Fuz_noodle 19 күн бұрын
but which thing is thing 1?
@sky-byte6272
@sky-byte6272 19 күн бұрын
1:47 Frenzy’s head appears in RotF and Rumble was in the tie-in comics
@Laserod559
@Laserod559 16 күн бұрын
For me, the very first time I saw G1 based Transformers was a fan animation by Randall Ng and the moment Soundwave deploys both Rumble and Frenzy, the FIRST thing that clicked into my mind was... "Rumble is red, Frenzy is blue", never knew why but it stuck with me for a while. Of course, I do sometimes associate with Rumble being the "blue" one and Frenzy being the "red" one the moment I dive into the cartoon but because my first exposure to mainly the toys (never the shows), it'll always go back to "Rumble is red, Frenzy is blue". At last, this is all coming from my perspective so yours may differ and that's not a bad thing. At the end of the day, the answer to this old question is BOTH (Rumble is red AND blue, Frenzy is blue AND red).
@IMosuGoji
@IMosuGoji 18 күн бұрын
CORRECT ANSWER: Rumble is purple Frenzy is blue “Runble” is a red robot and Enemy is there too
@violagreene4643
@violagreene4643 18 күн бұрын
I kind of think that it was done to drive the sales of the Frenzy/Laserbeak 2 pack. If a kid had Soundwave/Buzzsaw and Rumle/Ravage they would be less likely to buy F/L because it would be easier to ignore the color of Buzzsaw than the color of Rumble as the color of the birds was hard to see with the weapons attached. But switch the names of F and R and suddenly there is a reason to seek out the blue robot toy.
@IMosuGoji
@IMosuGoji 18 күн бұрын
frenzy is red rumble is blue defenders have no answer other than “its the right answer”
@davewire87
@davewire87 18 күн бұрын
I like to imagine that they’re the Rosencranz and Guildenstern of Transformers. It doesn’t matter which is which. They’re an interchangeable pair.
@wayigotitfigured9800
@wayigotitfigured9800 16 күн бұрын
In Frenzy's first appearance in IDW.1, he was blue - the AHM coda series.
@AndersGears
@AndersGears 19 күн бұрын
The new Soundwave cassette SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENEMY! THE RED AND BLUE CASSETTE! I needed to get that out.
@RedKnightKirtro
@RedKnightKirtro 19 күн бұрын
The red one is "Sci fi Greg", the blue one "D n' D Greg", the purple one is "Open Source Greg", and the less mentioned red and dark blue one is "Japanese Culture Greg".
@tommym2715
@tommym2715 18 күн бұрын
In my opinion if it’s a cartoon or screen-only thing, Rumble is blue, but if it’s a comic or toy or anything in print Rumble is red. This way it’s a confusing but funnily interesting “rule”
@gabrielpeixoto812
@gabrielpeixoto812 5 күн бұрын
If Enemy didn't exist, I'd love to see a version of Frenzy & Rumble that are BOTH red & blue in different spots of their armor, and constantly confuse the other Decepticons (and the audience) on purpose. As for where I sit on the debate: I don't care. I grew up with Beast Wars, and by the time I knew there even was a debate I had already accepted the multiversal nature of Transformers where there are different variations of the same characters.
@Andyjoe522
@Andyjoe522 19 күн бұрын
I want a show or comic to have a background gag where the two of them are painting each other the opposite colors. Just make the joke canon.
@aleanddragonITA
@aleanddragonITA 8 күн бұрын
They are actually named *'Frenzy Rumble'* & the other is *'Rumble Frenzy'* There's also *Rumble Rumble* Orange-ish~Yellow & *Frenzy Frenzy* that's Green
@Gaming_Nerd1993
@Gaming_Nerd1993 18 күн бұрын
I'm in the RIBFIR camp due to having watched re-runs of G1 and playing the WFC.
@Starcat5
@Starcat5 19 күн бұрын
Oh, like these two aren't constantly swapping their paint jobs just to mess with people. Go on, TELL me that isn't something they would do.
@Benjamin0119
@Benjamin0119 19 күн бұрын
For me, Rumble is blue, Frenzy is red. If they were like G2 characters or Transmetals and had their names printed on themselves, that might be another matter. 😉 But, I still go by the cartoon and I am glad Rumble was featured more since I prefer that blue color scheme. And yes, that's not even their main colors. Rumble is violet (purplish-blue) and blue, and Frenzy is black and red. But yeah, it doesn't really matter that much at the end of the day. Heh.
@RogueTwo
@RogueTwo 18 күн бұрын
Well, I had gotten the toys long before watching the cartoon or reading the comic. I got them and the other cassettes because their more or less 3 3/4" scale in robot mode meant they could play with my GI Joe action figures. So, yeah, going by the tech spec cards, Rumble was the red one. Though of course I was thrown by the cartoon when I saw it. Confused when they then did introduce Frenzy, and he was the red one. Though, frankly TJ, your explanation for why makes perfect sense. The really curious thing for me is that not only did Sunbow flip their colors and give them the same powers, they also merged their personalities. Rumble was supposed to be the thuggish street punk. Frenzy was supposed to be a violent sociopath. But when they made their powers the same, ignoring Frenzy's sonic attack, they also made the personalities and voices nearly identical as well. So, honestly, it doesn't matter which character is which, because they're interchangeable. I do love the idea that many have suggested, that they themselves swap their colors back and forth just to mess with everyone else. That DEFINITELY sounds like something they'd do and laugh about to each other!
@mattparsons8914
@mattparsons8914 19 күн бұрын
I just call them both rumble, I find it kinda pointless to argue about colors (or scale) of characters from a show that has more animation errors than a bird has feathers.
@DrumLogic
@DrumLogic 15 күн бұрын
Rumble always was blue for me but I never had the sound wave toy as a kid.
@Fuz_noodle
@Fuz_noodle 19 күн бұрын
this debate is so heated i don’t even wanna have a say in all this in fear of an argument that lasts forever
@Razorgeist
@Razorgeist 19 күн бұрын
For my head canon Rumble is blue but thats because cartoon continuity sticks with me. Oh and the Eiffel 65 reference *chefs kiss*
@vision4860
@vision4860 19 күн бұрын
I mainly remember Rumble from the episodes of original cartoon that I watched as a kid, so to me, Rumble has always been blue.
@user-my7lm1qn6q
@user-my7lm1qn6q 19 күн бұрын
Original toys: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red Marvel comics: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red Us cartoon: Frenzy is red Rumble is blue Japanese cartoon: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red Ladybird books and Kid stuff: Rumble is red Frenzy never showed up Dreamwave g1 continuity: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red G. I. Joe vs the Transformers continuity: Frenzy is red Rumble is blue 2005 Idw continuity: Frenzy is both Rumble is both Alternators toyline: Rumble is red Frenzy never showed up Diamond Select line: Frenzy is red Rumble is blue Music label earphones: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red Robot heroes line: Rumble is red Frenzy never showed up Bayverse films: Frenzy is silver Rumble is blue Alighed Continuity: Frenzy is both Rumble is both G1: the awakening: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red Reveal the shield line: Rumble was to be blue Frenzy never showed up United and the Masterpiece lines: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red Legends mobile game: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red Devastation video game: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red Earth Wars mobile game: Frenzy is red Rumble is blue Titans Return toyline: Rumble is red Frenzy never showed up War for cybertron trilogy and 2019 IDW continuity: Frenzy is blue Rumble is red World of warships legends transformers: Rumble is red Frenzy is mentioned My little pony/transformers: Frenzy is blue Rumble never showed up Transformers/Back to the future: Rumble is red Frenzy never showed up Earthspark continuity: Frenzy is purple Rumble is dead Transformers roleplaying game: Frenzy is red Rumble is both Studio Series 86: Frenzy is red Rumble is blue Energon Universe: Frenzy is red Rumble is blue Studio Series Bumblebee(despite not appearing in the movie): Frenzy is red Rumble is blue
@TajirMusil
@TajirMusil 19 күн бұрын
I would love for a piece of TF media to make them the same character, but split, and they don't know which is which.
@Messsenger
@Messsenger 19 күн бұрын
I've always associated Rumble with red. What really puzzles me is why I think that? I got into Transformers from the G1 cartoon at my local video rental. I didn't buy any toys until Energon. What could I have seen in that time that would make me so unshakably convinced that Rumble was the red one?
@Saturnlock
@Saturnlock 19 күн бұрын
For most of my life, I said FIBRIR because of the alliteration of Rumble = Red. I kinda flip-flopped as I heard different arguments, and eventually, after seeing the leaked listings, I decided that SS86 Rumble would make my final decision. And he was blue. So FIRRIB. (But I generally don't care either way.)
@TFormers2002
@TFormers2002 17 күн бұрын
Symbiote Studios released them as a 2 pack so you could choose which was which.
@wayigotitfigured9800
@wayigotitfigured9800 16 күн бұрын
The dolor change on the show is also necessitated by the fact that they had a mandate to NOT use Buzzsaw 'because he came with Soundwave, so need to sell him on the show'. The current team seems to favor the cartoon over toy history. In the movie, Rumble was blue - except when both he and Frenzy was red, which means both of them were also Frenzy. LOL - even the movie can't really help solve it, but there's nothing to solve - it's Rumble = Red, Frenzy = Blue.
@mindwipe8788
@mindwipe8788 19 күн бұрын
FIR-RIB, G1 cartoon is the one I was introduced to via Transformers VHS rentals so for me Frenzy is black and red and Rumble is purple and blue
@nerdsoftheherd69
@nerdsoftheherd69 19 күн бұрын
Give me a continuity where they switch names constantly and no one knows except for Soundwave
@vanhopecomedy
@vanhopecomedy 18 күн бұрын
I like to believe they're like identical twins that changed outfits just to mess with people. The only one that doesn't get mad is Megatron, because unlike some of his other warriors Soundwave's minions never fail him. 😂
@Cassius335
@Cassius335 19 күн бұрын
It would probably have helped if Frenzy had his own signature weapon (sonic scream wasn't physical enough without something to fire it from).
@TheRealTHD
@TheRealTHD 19 күн бұрын
Don't forget, WOTC also cocked up Magic a bunch too! So like with Magic, I'm not telling you to make proxies for D&D, but, you know.
@bronsonneill2944
@bronsonneill2944 19 күн бұрын
I personally use Rumble is blue/Frenzy is red, because the word "Frenzy" invokes the color red in my head. however i really like the head-cannon that they switch color schemes constantly to mess with people.
@enderspy9529
@enderspy9529 19 күн бұрын
My headcanon is that TransTech Rumble and Frenzy decided to prank the rest of the multiverse by going to random universes and telling their equivalents to swap color schemes. The IDW1 pair are in on the joke, hence why they keep switching over the course of the series.
@Gripen1974
@Gripen1974 19 күн бұрын
As a Swede where cartoon was never a thing is frenzy blue and rumble is red for it was how he was in comic and toys.
@heirofcaedus7070
@heirofcaedus7070 19 күн бұрын
My first exposure to Frenzy was in the '07 movie, so for me, he's not red or blue, he's silver. But my first exposure to the traditional Frenzy was the G1 cartoon, so I'm on the FIRRIB side of that debate.
@RialVestro
@RialVestro 19 күн бұрын
There's another debate like this in Armada. Of the Star Saber Mini-Cons which one is Jetstorm and which is Runway? The toy packaging and the instructions even tell you 2 different things. Or With Perceptor, which one is Grindor and which one is Sureshock cause they swapped names in every episode, some times multiple times within the same episode. Or in Energon which one is Downshift and Which is Cliffjumper? Cause the toy line says the guy who looks like G1 Wheeljack Downshift but the cartoon says he's Cliffjumper. I tend to go with the cartoon so Rumble is purple and I'm color blind.
@scottsummers5994
@scottsummers5994 19 күн бұрын
rumble is blue, frenzy is red
@fishpop
@fishpop 18 күн бұрын
Cos Earthspark Frenzy is purple it would be neat if Rumble showed up and she was yellow. Yellow is purple's complementary colour AND yellow completes the primary colour trio that red and blue are in with it. Don't think we've ever had a yellow version of the Rumble/Frenzy mold either.
@ericsonofjames4573
@ericsonofjames4573 19 күн бұрын
So from my logic side, Marvel made up the names and stories. The original Rumble figure was red. He was red in the comics. But the cartoon conditioned me over the years that rumble is blue. When I see a blue robot, I think Rumble before my brain says, “no. He’s Frenzy”. So between that and the PTSD from the movie, this line really screwed me up.
@LorzIX
@LorzIX 15 күн бұрын
I mostly came into this fandom as a grown up, none of the transformers stuff I saw as a kid had a red or blue Rumble and Frenzy to give me a basis on who is who, so to be completely frank, I never know which one is which in any continuity. I know the toys came first, and the animated show changing the names around is most likely a big mistake, but since I have been aware of the fandom, we mostly take the animated shows as the main blueprint for transformers fiction, and we value accuracy to the cartoon. So that's why, even if it originally was a production gaff, I prefer to run with whatever was in the tv show for the sake of consistency. Isn't that what most people are supposed to remember anyway?
@1505627
@1505627 19 күн бұрын
to be honest I don't really stand anywhere. None of the TF series I watched gave either a prominent role, so I don't have any pre-conceived notion of who is what color
@RalisIstodalhar
@RalisIstodalhar 11 күн бұрын
I've always felt, that Red and black was a more suitable color for a bot named Frenzy. Red is a color of anger and agression, etc, etc...
@AndersGears
@AndersGears 19 күн бұрын
Personally I think that the third mold member, enemy, is the one who is red and blue. The fourth mold member, stage dive, is green.
@ethanmiller5469
@ethanmiller5469 19 күн бұрын
September 3 is my birthday so I am very excited about this
@TheSharkKing45
@TheSharkKing45 19 күн бұрын
Rumble is dark grey. Frenzy is Lilac, and Enemy is the Red one (poor Enemy, an obscure minicassette of Soundwave's)
@jbarnett9776
@jbarnett9776 19 күн бұрын
Frenzy is black and red and Rumble is blue and purple.
@palaguin
@palaguin 19 күн бұрын
G1 cartoon says Rumble is blue and that's good enough for me. That said, I'd love to see a twinpack with both where one side is blue and the other red, and is reversed with the other one in the set, and they never tell you which is supposed to be which.
@BigTgeekandgaming1997
@BigTgeekandgaming1997 19 күн бұрын
In terms of purple rumble I always took at as dark medium blue half tone between torso and lower limbs and light dirty highlighter marker blue and silver and gold everywhere else
@Thunderwing88
@Thunderwing88 19 күн бұрын
There words “Toys came first”. Though I will bow to the G1 cartoon for the reverse.
@calebjohnson3537
@calebjohnson3537 19 күн бұрын
if that were the case lets call them both Micro Cassette robot MC-01 Micross
@benjaminwiseman6567
@benjaminwiseman6567 16 күн бұрын
It really depends on what you prioritize. I prioritize the toys, so I say Rumble is red, and I like having Rumble and red start with the same letter.
@valarmathypalpanaban7928
@valarmathypalpanaban7928 18 күн бұрын
I feel the name Frenzy would suit a blue robot more than an aggressive red and black robot, which should have an aggressive sounding name like Rumble. But, this is just my head canon.
@Fadingxx
@Fadingxx 18 күн бұрын
I do have a G1 cartoon bias, but I agree, it doesn't matter. Personally, I do tend to think of Rumble as blue however. Not just because of G1, but because it makes sense to me. Red is a fiery color, it makes sense for someone named Frenzy to be red. Same with Rumble. Rumble has the pile drivers, and causes mini earthquakes. It makes sense for the guy causing earthquakes to be called Rumble. At least IMO.
@thedesucomplex4365
@thedesucomplex4365 19 күн бұрын
I still like FIRRIB for the sole idea that 'Frenzy' sounds red and 'Rumble' sounds blue. It's like a baba and kiki thing.
@jameszetterman4487
@jameszetterman4487 19 күн бұрын
Sooner or later Hasbro needs to make it canon that they can swap colors.
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