The 80s was filled with a great fighters who unfortunately didn’t reach their full potential, they had excellent skills and a lot of talent but unfortunately most of the guys had too much addictions that ruined them.
@RummysCorner2 жыл бұрын
There really were a lot of talented heavyweights throughout the 80s, and because many of them (as you mentioned) did not fullfill their potential, I think the talent level in the decade tends to get underrated by many.
@demarcusmac28132 жыл бұрын
@@RummysCorner severely underated
@SPIDERM0OSE2 жыл бұрын
1980s was the start of Mega money being invested into the sport & all of a sudden smaller guys like Sugar Ray Leonard & Roberto Duran were living rock star lifestyles, no longer fighting for a pat on the back from the fans, a shiny belt & 3 mortgage payments up front. Now take a big guy without much education in a ghetto, who first got into boxing to keep himself outa gangs & outa prison. Now hes a pro, talented & he has promoters offering him big signing on fees up front. Maybe more cash than 3 generations of that guys family has seen. Rockstar lifestyle welcoming you, sex drugs n rock n roll. You need to think of the 80s guys as soldiers, they were the first to experience the mega bucks, they went from zero to hero in terms of wealth. From being a hated downtrodden element of society to being able to buy all of what they & their friends every wanted day to day & that change happened over night for them. Some made it through that minefield by retaining their discipline, some didn't n fell by the way side. The pros of today are pros because boxing men have learned lessons from the likes of Dokes, Biggs & others.
@SPIDERM0OSE2 жыл бұрын
@@RummysCorner The talent is always there, the potential is always there. They World Championships is every 2 years & the Olympics happen every 4 years, same as always. People are people, men are men. How the sport is managed & promoted is what chops & changes. Promote low level shit, then yer gonna get more low level shit. Promote quality, yer gonna get more quality.
@lastexittobrooklyn14162 жыл бұрын
@@RummysCorner If I was to rank the 80s HW's on pure talent, potential alone.... 1. Larry Holmes 2. Mike Tyson 3. Tim Witherspoon 4. Greg Page 5. Pinklon Thomas 6. Michael Dokes 7. Tony Tucker 8. Michael Spinks 9. Mike Weaver 10. Gerrie Coetzee
@MarkyCannoli2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the 90s. What a decade of fighting that was!! Holyfield or Lewis is the question. But you also had Tyson, Bowe, Moorer, Foreman, Morrison and the list goes on.
@JP-rl4bc2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I may lean towards Lennox for the 90s since he beat Holyfield convincingly, Ko'd Tyson and had Bowe throw his belt away to avoid fighting Lewis..
@jtaco41012 жыл бұрын
@@JP-rl4bc it's Lennox for sure.
@thediaz072 жыл бұрын
Tyson win was in mid 2002... So you can't include that win in the 90s Lewis.
@active.7universal Жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis at his peak most likely would take em all in a trilogy
@samueldowney2806 Жыл бұрын
Big George without a doubt! :)
@villekyyny2 жыл бұрын
Holmes is the most underrated heavyweight champion of all time.
@armyofninjas9055 Жыл бұрын
*laughs in Lennox Lewis
@mikelomez9313 Жыл бұрын
@@armyofninjas9055 I'd say that Lewis isn't underrated but I truly believe that while he was training with Stewart he might have been the greatest heavyweight ever. Guy was unstoppable
@tylerrobbins8311 Жыл бұрын
Marciano is simply because he is not given credit as the goat despite being the goat. Louis and Walcott are both criminally underrated as well.
@Hello_combat_sports_fans11 ай бұрын
He isn’t underrated anymore some stupid people’s are ranking him above Tyson in 80s
@douglasborgaro680110 ай бұрын
@Hello_combat What’s amazing to me is that Marciano didn’t win for the same reasons as Ali or Joe Louis. Rocky won because he was stronger and in better shape than his opponents. He could outlast everyone and get stronger with every round. He wasn’t deterred by pain. He was relentless and determined. Of course he was a super hard hitter! Rocky wasn’t a scientifically skilled boxer. But with what Rocky was and what he could do he was too much for most all opponents. That’s kind of the simplest of concepts, but how do you beat that? Ali said in later years that based on his style he was still much prettier than Marciano, but he would have had trouble with Marciano if he would’ve faced him. I actually think he may have been right.
@arjunakorale61664 ай бұрын
A PERFECT ANALYSIS of the 1980s heavyweights - well done!
@kiowhatta12 жыл бұрын
Kudos to you - someone finally recognising not just Witherspoon but other top HW’s of the sometimes erroneously referred to ‘weak’ decade of the 80’s.
@RobbieCalifornia692 жыл бұрын
I know it's going to be a good week when Rummy's Corner drops a video on Monday :) That aside ... I think you pretty much nailed it with that list. I totally agree that Mike is the Number One guy of the 80s ...without hesitation. Just plain awesome power. What a whacky decade in the HW landscape.
@carson212112 жыл бұрын
Started watching boxing with my Dad and his friends around 1995 when I was around 11yrs old. Tyson was such an unbelieveable guy to my young eyes. His technique and ferocity is still amazing to watch even now as an adult. I couldn't imagine with 100 years of training ever being able to fight that guy. A true all-time great. Interesting to see who is the the 90's best HW. That is gonna be a tough one to list.
@mohammedaesmaoui3122 жыл бұрын
Thank you for dropping us boxing fans these gems rummy.we appreciate the time,quality, and effort you put into your videos.
@mrbrooklynny2 жыл бұрын
Here's the decade I was waiting for! Are you going to do the 90s to?
@RummysCorner2 жыл бұрын
Yes. May take me a few months to get through them all, but I intend to do the 90s, 00s, and 10s, and then 2 follow-up episodes based on the decades I cover (50s-10s).
@mrbrooklynny2 жыл бұрын
@@RummysCorner sweet man.
@miabueloesamunikeymipadrel48782 жыл бұрын
@@RummysCorner Hype in 3,2,1, hahahah
@slidecounter2 жыл бұрын
The 90's Era was very great as well
@fiucik12 жыл бұрын
The 80's were a huge mess, but the 90's are really interesting. With 2 reigns of Holyfield and Lewis, with Big George Foreman regaining his title after 20 years, with Bowe, Tyson, Moorer and others in the mix. Can't wait. Thanks for another great episode Rummy.
@miabueloesamunikeymipadrel48782 жыл бұрын
The 80s for me have been a time that was behind the shadows, of the great golden decade that was the 70s. Another great video to complement our knowledge of this, our beloved sport. Thank you Rummy for bringing us the good yeyo dose. Greetings from Canary Island.
@electrofunk54422 жыл бұрын
I love how you solved the Holmes vs Tyson conundrum.
@JD.78 Жыл бұрын
Can't disagree with Tyson being the No.1. He beat the best, won every title, and was the undisputed Heavyweight Champion. Watching his rise to the the top was a pleasure to behold, i'm glad i got to see it.
@travzimmerman13406 ай бұрын
He beat the best of a widely considered worst era in HW history mid to late 80s
@Ehrle69695 ай бұрын
@@travzimmerman134080s is in top 4 the best ones😂
@markmmcaulay2 жыл бұрын
👍 Great job! Mike Weaver is a tough omission. I can't help but look at how rough he is career started and then winning against John Tate coming from behind in a start and behind in the fight.
@lennoxpeters7792 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel. Very good content, I was born in the early 80’s so it’s great to catch up on fights era’s and reigns I wouldn’t have been aware of at the time.
@redauerbach27532 жыл бұрын
Great video. Really enjoy your stuff. 👍🏼👍🏼
@andrew3xuk346 Жыл бұрын
Another good call. Difficult to dispute the raw data from Jan 1 1980 to Dec 31st 1989. A period of great confusion for the Heavyweights until Tyson cleaned it all up! 💪🏻 Great Work
@RummysCorner Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ukraine_tbic2 жыл бұрын
This is just what I needed! You’re 1990’s heavyweight summary video is my favourite
@peterswarpeterson34932 жыл бұрын
What a great channel 👍 always look forward to your videos 🥊🥊 many thanks
@surgicalboxing2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to tell you that I’m a huge fan of yours Rummy. You were one of the main channels that inspired me to start my channel 🙏
@DanBamber8 Жыл бұрын
Always excellence with Rummy’s videos. Well reasoned arguments here too.
@olufemiakeredolu5235 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Analysis
@danient87342 жыл бұрын
I agree with the 1980's ranking, great channel!
@kchoodsta2 жыл бұрын
You have the best boxing channel in all the interwebs rummy
@alias2175 Жыл бұрын
When Rummy makes the 90s video you know it's going to be a looooong one, can't wait to watch it.
@BigBrainLynx2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@MrAowens12 жыл бұрын
i agree. good video. I did not know much about the guys Tyson was knocking out in the 80s besides Holmes so very informative. Gives credence to the quality of victory Tyson had in his prime
@samueldowney2806 Жыл бұрын
Great fun video Rummy. I agree on all counts. Really, really hard to separate The Eastern Assassin and Iron Mike; what if Larry had got the decision he deserved in the rematch vs Spinks? But even discounting the incredible spectacle and phenomenon of Iron Mike's rise, I think Mike still clinches it. I can't remember a greater sense of excitement in any sport compared to those fights when Mike climbed into the ring glowering around like the baddest man on the planet and then gave endearing toothy lisping interviews afterwards claiming to just be a kid having fun, while being the youngest Heavyweight Champion ever. Truly legendary.
@aaronbrown04172 жыл бұрын
You make the best videos on boxing hands down..I been waiting for this
@federicostorms15412 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much to you for that high quality works.
@jamesoshaughnessy91682 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy your clear admiration for Holmes Rummy. You can't say his name twice without slowing your delivery & stating "The Easton Assassin". I enjoy it every time!
@TheGhost0312 Жыл бұрын
Excellent series this one, are you planning on doing a top 5 or 10 heavyweights of all time taking in consideration the top 3 or 5 of each decade when you finish this series? That would be great indeed.
@stephen313 Жыл бұрын
The results same as mine. I remember following the rise of iron mike a phenomenon a force of nature he was. Great content as always sending love and blessings from ireland
@Blackson1872 жыл бұрын
Hell yes; I've been waiting for this one!
@stephenokombo30646 ай бұрын
Great summary.
@BigSwervyy2 жыл бұрын
Rummy We Really Appreciate You ! I promise!
@wraithstrongopark2 жыл бұрын
word! all love for the man.
@Krezo2002 жыл бұрын
Love your channel since many years
@Pleaver Жыл бұрын
Hey bro. You’re content is the best. Thanks. Super luxe.
@t.c.9978 Жыл бұрын
Rummy tends to hold a special place in his heart for the Easton Assassin, so the fact that Holmes didn't take first shows he's really being disciplined in this decade by decade process.
@jamiepike69092 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one🎉❤
@Rock33b Жыл бұрын
Great job
@kaic-m28652 жыл бұрын
great video as always rummy
@Me3stR2 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to when you'd get to this decade. Good Job!
@alexroyster182 Жыл бұрын
I was lucky to see Holmes beat Norton as a young kid and see Tyson move up the ranks and unify the title. The whole HBO tournament was so cool. I remember loving watching the whole thing unfold and Tyson stood at the top when it was all said and done. I remember watching Tyson take apart Holmes and my dad said, you know the way he beat Holmes I don't think there is anyone around ready for Tyson. I myself thought Tyson would never be a beaten after that fight when I was 13. At school on Monday that's all us guys at the lunch table talked about. Today's average 13 year old kid probably has no idea who is champion of any weight class 😆 they probably talk about Jake Paul before knowing about any top boxer. Sad but probably true.
@richardmorris7063 Жыл бұрын
Probably don't even talk sports, bury their heads in their cell phone's.
@active.7universal Жыл бұрын
Holmes 38 with 2 years rust lasted longer than Tyson first 18 opponents who were all young and active//
@Priceluked Жыл бұрын
That's mostly Alphabet bodies' fault, no one gives a shit for however many champions there are.
@RichieRichMD Жыл бұрын
Since society in general has been in a steep decline since then, no kids now care to read a good book or memorize anything, social media is making people dumber in bundles.
@duncaninglis5407 Жыл бұрын
Great video Rummy thank you for recognising the absolute brilliance of the Eastern Assassin inside the ring he was unparalleled in his prime and he fought Tyson arguably out of his prime he Is sometimes forgotten because of the way Iron Mike came up through the HW absolutely destroying opponents boxing fans were mouth wide open at Tyson.
@wmurra12 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Following you from Cartagena Colombia.
@simsj2763 Жыл бұрын
Another good one! Love your vids! Being from London I would love you to do a video on Ranking all-time British Heavyweights if you haven't already?
@RAZVANJUSTIN12 жыл бұрын
The 90' should be packed with champions again Morrison,Foreman,Holyfield,Moorer,Tyson,Ruiz,Klitsko,Bowe,Lewis,Mercer,
@TreyParker3182 жыл бұрын
Love the recent uploads Rummy
@andreitiberiovicgazdovici2 жыл бұрын
Saluti dall' Italia amico mio, gran bel video, come sempre d' altronde. Se passi da queste parti sei sempre il benvenuto
@J0HNJ0RDAN2 жыл бұрын
I love this frickin channel.
@breezecardenas39412 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing up the "Alphabet soup of the 1980's", Rummy! As I commented on your previous video, I was always curious about the heavyweight division in the 1980's. Thank so much, and keep up the great work! 👍🏽
@Leggoeljefeblu2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel thank you for the great vids as always
@gaddaitherage82042 жыл бұрын
Tyson was a force of nature. Great video!
@deanostanley85302 жыл бұрын
Enjoying this series Rummy. Keep em coming mate
@samuelmahmud19092 жыл бұрын
Great video coverage Rummy the belts changed hands monthly!🥊🥊💯 I would've loved to see Tyson and Holmes in Holmes' prime!
@richardmorris7063 Жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting. I'm not sure Mike would have beaten him.
@Ehrle6969 Жыл бұрын
Mike win first round ko
@danpettitt7012 Жыл бұрын
In his Prime Holmes has too much for Prime Tyson in my opinion
@danpettitt7012 Жыл бұрын
@@Ehrle6969😂😂😂😂
@stephenh9483 Жыл бұрын
Wow I never knew so much of this stuff, awesome
@fasasitaiwo57822 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your rankings Rummy, nice video as always and good analysis. Taiwo watching from Nigeria 🇳🇬👍🏿.
@glynhannaford73322 жыл бұрын
Great research, knowledge and analysis Geoff. 👏
@Gambitfan2 жыл бұрын
God the 90s are going to be a bit of a mess too, aren't they? Wonderful vid Rummy! Pretty much in agreement with your rankings.
@jahkarl73762 жыл бұрын
Jesus bless you, sweet memories of my youth watching this division.
@blazeblackk2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@AirTime142 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video and appreciate your work. Would like to see this for the 90s, 00s and 10s
@truckcampertraveler73692 жыл бұрын
Thanks entertaining as always
@briHammer40K2 жыл бұрын
I got the same results as you rummy and yes my American brother I also loved through the rise of iron Mike and it's just impossible to fully explain to people who weren't born at that time just how amazing and exciting it was.i was 6 yes old in 86 when Mike won the first title and he was just everything to me and the reason I fell in love with our incredible sport 👊❤️👊 respect and God bless as always mate 🙏
@MichaelVLang Жыл бұрын
Larry's jab/cross was just absolutely lethal. Like a 50cal sniper rifle going off, backed up by 105mm howitzer.
@swampthing942 жыл бұрын
That trademark Holmes piston jab is a thing of beauty
@CampsitePyro Жыл бұрын
Rummy-this is pretty kick ass. Can you do a 1980s chronology like the 1990s one you did ? THANKS!!!
@KingWilder872 жыл бұрын
Just absolutely amazing. As a real boxing fan “we” enjoy tf out of your videos
@langleyh82432 жыл бұрын
I love that this channel often highlights Larry Holmes. Always felt like if his prime took place in either the previous or future decade (the '70s or '90s) his talent would've been much more appreciated by the general public
@farid4442 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always! .. looking forward to the 90s with a lot of great fights and champions as well as the addition of a new sanctioning body .. the WBO.
@josephphoenix13762 жыл бұрын
Excellent Episode 👍
@MarkyCannoli2 жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@smv93382 жыл бұрын
I love this series, thank you. Will you be turning to middleweights once you've completed the heavies?
@MisterWessells2 жыл бұрын
thank god ur back
@amv7m2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown and conclusion. I think the results are on the money.
@ThePinkMan Жыл бұрын
The Mike Weaver KO of Big John Tate was insane. Tate dominated the fight for 15 rounds before Weaver knocked him out cold with less than a minute to go. Weaver was only considered cannon-fodder for Tate, who was supposed to be the next big thing in the heavyweight division. And yet, Weaver went on to have several successful title defenses for his WBA belt, while Tate's career went absolutely nowhere after that.
@thebiglebisto9066 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤ this channel!!!
@steelmillsboxing25052 жыл бұрын
Luv this channel
@bryanv40812 жыл бұрын
Nice job again, Rummy.
@darealgodzilla2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Tyson united the belts and Larry was mostly whining about being wronged.
@Romans8-9 Жыл бұрын
@@RatatRatR Tbh, I think Rummy is a little biased towards Holmes here. There is just no way Larry is that close to being the no.1 of the 80s. He lost 2 of his biggest fights to Spinks, who was demolished by Tyson in 1 round before eventually losing to Tyson himself. Tyson on the other hand never lost a fight in the 80s. Larry is the clear no.2
@devonfields2 жыл бұрын
Way to get my morning good 👍🏾
@Nowheremt2 жыл бұрын
Good list, no complaints.
@nastynaz33762 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna compare Holmes from 1978 till 85, and Tyson from 86 to 1990. Larry was the greater Champion.
@jasonellis97772 жыл бұрын
Was there ever any try to have Tyson vs Witherspoon that you know of? Tim could have given Tyson if he was having a good night. Dokes also could have been a good fight as well. Thanks for another good video!
@RummysCorner2 жыл бұрын
It would have happed (and was expected to happen) in March 1987, but it was derailed when Bonecrusher Smith stopped Witherspoon in round 1 in December '86.
@donovanwilliams90062 жыл бұрын
I still think Tim would've given Mike all types of problems had he got past Smith.
@bigboris57742 жыл бұрын
@@donovanwilliams9006 100%. I think has that fight happened the legend surrounding “Prime Tyson” would be a lot different now. Witherspoon was really similar to Douglas, same height, almost identical weight, etc. Tyson definitely would’ve won but Witherspoon would’ve given him a close fight especially in the latter rounds and could’ve very well knocked him down.
@thediaz072 жыл бұрын
@@bigboris5774 maybe...but Tony Tubbs was phenomenal too...Tony Tubbs beat Witherspoon IMO and beat Riddick Bowe .. Tokyo Douglas was honestly in his bag and would've given ANY champ a run for their money.
@danielchernau3503 Жыл бұрын
1. Holmes 2. Tyson 3. everybody else
@yk8304 Жыл бұрын
You should do a video about the best old school boxers with the best replay value when it comes to fights
@billybob99612 жыл бұрын
It looks good glad to see Tim in your top 5
@bxing6022 жыл бұрын
Hey Rumsfeld great video! Can you do a top 35 after you’ve finished the 2010s? P.S can’t wait for the 90s video! I’d say that was the greatest decade of HW history next to the 70s.
@jessearias28632 жыл бұрын
Thanks rummy!!! Love the 80s Love Tyson great job.
@musicandboxing73702 жыл бұрын
Happy new month rummy. Cheers 🥂 from Nigeria 🇳🇬
@markmmcaulay2 жыл бұрын
I was trying to say how rough of a start he had to his career and him being behind in the fight with Big John Tate. Weaver just had a way of coming back!
@dodge17242 жыл бұрын
Thanks rummy that was a perfect reminder to how things use to be instead of the ridiculous landscape we have in boxing currently also illustrates that Teddy Atlas was completely wrong with his analysis of Tyson. Tyson cleared up the whole division and left no ambiguity all by the age of 23
@remy122 жыл бұрын
Another great thing about 80s boxing, you were able to watch most of these fights on regular tv/cable, not all the pay per view crap we have today.
@dexocube2 жыл бұрын
Great work Rummy
@kevinfcampbell2 жыл бұрын
Such an education , great to see Tyson get the logical no 1 of the 80s. thanks.
@latos02352 жыл бұрын
My god, the 90s list will be a tough one to make
@twoheadeddatascientist32892 жыл бұрын
Hello Rummy. Love you video and your reasoning behind your ranking. May I kindly ask would you ever get into MMA analysis? Thank you.
@johnconnor7131 Жыл бұрын
You can trouble me for a glass of shut the hell up
@kufujitsu Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. You could have made it a top 3 instead of a top 5 - : Tyson, Holmes, & Spinks as the top 3 are pretty clear cut. & we can virtually raffle the rest of the spots, which consisted of mostly good boxers who never fulfilled their early promise..