Who is the greatest heavyweight since Muhammad Ali? www.boxing247.com/ www.boxingforum24.com/
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@bigheadface50935 жыл бұрын
George Forman is sooooooooo underrated
@scheichhassan50045 жыл бұрын
Big Head face the world Champion in 2 rounds
@bearz66065 жыл бұрын
No he isn't, before he fought ali he went on to destroy joe frazier and many other amazing boxers, he is in no way underrated. The only reason he wasn't in this video is because after ali when he came back in his fourties he wasn't as good as he was in his prime, which was before and during ali times.
@bigheadface50935 жыл бұрын
Bearz but no one remembers him for all his great moments such as fighting 5 guys in one night and winning the world championship when he was a middle age man. He only gets remembered for the rumble in the jungle which I feel is unfair and leaves him underrated
@eatthisvr65 жыл бұрын
Bearz no he was way past his prime, which makes it even more ridiculous that he did what he did!
@chamchamtrigger5 жыл бұрын
His hands were impossibly heavy. After his comeback, his punches looked like they were coming at half a mile per hour, yet he would destroy people with them.
@sibusisomaseko16075 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with you on George Foreman. His record of 76-5 with 68 KO's can never be matched.
@jaydengray40155 жыл бұрын
Sibusiso Maseko Earnie shavers has a similar record albeit with a few more losses
@skarloey74935 жыл бұрын
Jaymoneybagz a few ?
@Jeronimus80905 жыл бұрын
His record is full of bums. Holmes has a long reing, same thing with Klitschko.
@aaronbradley32325 жыл бұрын
Well yeah he wouldn't I still disagree with him I I still said that you are tasked to be in the running and yeah definitely but he's talking about after Ali and most of those wins that mattered took place before Ali retired
@aaronbradley32325 жыл бұрын
@@skarloey7493 lmao yea I know right I think he was looking for the adjectives several more losses
@gershomtan58794 жыл бұрын
I’d take Lewis with his actual ring IQ and that solid as a brick wall jab.
@jasonkessler73214 жыл бұрын
That IQ and jab was taking the night off when he got knocked out by Hasim Rockman and Oliver MCcall, a Tyson Sparring partner.
@gershomtan58794 жыл бұрын
@@jasonkessler7321 both losses avenged and retired as the undisputed champ. Its heavyweight boxing, he took both guys lightly and paid for it.
@MegaJohngt4 жыл бұрын
Jason Kessler no in the returns though mate 🥊💥
@smallrossy3 жыл бұрын
Why do North Americans hate Lewis so much?
@The.Sultan3 жыл бұрын
Jason Kessler Lewis is better than Tyson
@americankulak22943 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes was goddamned underrated. That needs to be said.
@claudedalton89702 жыл бұрын
I WILL AMEN THAT ONE FOR SURE! HE NEVER LOST TO SPINKS EITHER! EVEANDER WAS THE OTHER ONE! GREAT HEARTS!
@MattanzaMafiaFedora Жыл бұрын
He was rated perfectly on point for a man of his prime era. Curse of fighting during the 80s.
@MattanzaMafiaFedora Жыл бұрын
@@claudedalton8970 He certainly DID lose to Spinks, and the first one is a clear victory for Michael.
@alanleemaxwell831 Жыл бұрын
And he was robbed against Spinks to prevent him from equalling Marciano's record...
@stevefirst1512 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Time will eventually give him the respect he deserves. Best jab of any heavyweight ever, yes Liston included, and a knockout right hand. Consider his record and the number of quality heavyweights he faced. He got up from a shavers rocket and his battle with Ken Norton would have ended any lesser heavies climb up the ladder. Funny, no sh-t personality as well was hilarious. Love when he went after that nut case Berbick in the parking lot.
@caseyfrederick95215 жыл бұрын
George Foreman ended a 10-year retirement at the age of 38 and at 45 he became the heavyweight champion for the second time in his life. Yea I wouldn't consider the guy either...
@kevinhernandez80205 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why George Foreman was so overlooked, dude was an animal and arguably top 5 heavyweights of all time
@brodywebster8134 жыл бұрын
Also he won against Briggs, which would have let him face lewis. But an old foreman was bad 4 business after he won and kept winning. Can't have an old man beating the young upcomingnboxers. So they pushed him out. He should be considered on every list every time regarding HW. He fought the 2 greatest eras and was world champ in both.
@darrencarter98124 жыл бұрын
@@brodywebster813 That Briggs fight remains one of the worst decisions in history. Foreman landed more punches. Normally when that happens and the other fighter wins, the argument is that the fighter who landed fewer landed more effective punches... but this is FOREMAN we are talking about. Even his glancing blows were hard. There was no argument for Briggs winning.
@etistone4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Gearge Foreman was a phenomenon. But he is one of the best of all time if you take his career overall. If you just take his later career, he is just a good boxer who held the title a little bit. Bonnus point for being much older than the others, but he cannot be considered one of the best of the last 40 years. Maybe he barely makes it in a top 10 then...
@chrimony4 жыл бұрын
@@brodywebster813 "pushed him out"? Foreman got THREE cracks at a heavyweight title after coming out of retirement. He lost to Holyfield, then he lost to Morrison. That should have been it. But he got another shot against Moorer just because Foreman was a big draw. And he only won that fight after Moorer got cocky after beating the crap out of George for nine rounds. And then Foreman refused to fight the designated challenger for his WBA belt. And he won his following fight against Schulz in a controversial decision, and refused the rematch, so he then lost his IBF title. That he lost a controversial decision against Briggs -- so what? Does that erase all of the above history? Foreman regaining the title, in his 40s, was an amazing feat. But he has no business being on a "greatest heavyweight since Ali" list.
@jamesmcdade96876 жыл бұрын
My brain says Lewis but my heart says Tyson.
@blahblahbleeblue13266 жыл бұрын
I made the exact same comment before I saw yours lol
@JorgeGeorgeD6 жыл бұрын
James Mcdade - Tyson was my childhood.
@pretorious7006 жыл бұрын
Holyfield beat Tyson TWICE.
@mattsoko19806 жыл бұрын
pretorious-Holyfield aged like fine wine. Tyson had an explosive style that favored his youth. It's all about styles and mental states. Holyfield wouldn't stand a chance vs Tyson mid-late 80's.
@ahmedthabet27866 жыл бұрын
Best answer really
@jeremytucker88533 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis just had it all. Jab, foot work, power, size. Just an amazing boxer.
@alexduran19672 жыл бұрын
IQ as well
@hamsaismail4082 жыл бұрын
He was soo good but at the time no one gave him his dues no one really put him up there with mike or evander til he beat em both and he beat em all in his day
@croesrob2 жыл бұрын
100% Lewis.
@minilite71842 жыл бұрын
Good on Rummy to rate Lennox so high - he never favours the yanks on patriotism- only on real talent
@johntoomey3572 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes would of gave LL a boxing lesson
@gongylophis70784 жыл бұрын
For me it is Lennox Lewis. Beat every man which He was in the Ring with. Can adapted his style to everyone. Absolute complete fighter!
@jroggs855 жыл бұрын
Man, I could spend five years thinking about nothing but this question and then tell you who the best of this seven was. Then you could ask me 15 minutes later and I'd have changed my mind.
@tedthomas90384 жыл бұрын
Great comment!
@omt-youtube4 жыл бұрын
so true!
@hopeful_144k85 жыл бұрын
As much as I hate to admit it, It's definitely Lenox Lewis!
@spanelamsimango53714 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis, he defeated every best man in his time, of course those that were brave enough to fight him
@IAWIA5 Жыл бұрын
It's a travesty Bowe refused to fight him, that would have been a hell of a fight and one that I think Lewis would have ultimately won
@wraithstrongopark Жыл бұрын
@@IAWIA5 bowe had a way better chin. lennox was safety first, because of that chin. he lost to bums, because he got caught on that shaky chin.
@isaacfernandes56011 ай бұрын
@@wraithstrongopark you don't really watch Rummy's Corner regularly do you? Because if you did you'd stop hanging to the faded fad of Lewis weak chin and improve your boxing knowledge. Do yourself a favour and watch the video where Rummy kills the myth of Lewis weak chin and save further embarrassment in the future.
@dae-kai-jaz-minkang81936 ай бұрын
All I'm saying if Mike was in his prime lenix would have been gone in round 3.
@tonya14253 жыл бұрын
I would give it to Lewis, he literally fought and beat everyone, I know he lost, but they were just flukes it happens all the time at heavyweight. Plus Lewis has the style and power to compete with any heavyweight in any era
@ianlobo90453 жыл бұрын
Im between holmes and lennox I wrote a whole 400 words comment talming about why my list but i touched the home button in my phone and the comment wasn't here no more My list be like: 1.lennox 2.holmes 3.tyson 4.holyfield 5.wladimirr klitshcko 6.bowe 7. Foreman 8. Vitaly klitshcko 9.spinks 10. John ruiz
@rileyhofman80273 жыл бұрын
Rip
@bertrandronge90192 жыл бұрын
He fought everyone and beat everyone but we all know that Tyson after his come back was just a shadow of his former self. So for me, it would be between him and Tyson
@kronk73652 жыл бұрын
Not to mentioj, the ones he lost to. He got revenge
@daxmoney5011 Жыл бұрын
True but Lennox never fought bowe,Foreman and he fought everybody when they were past there prime like holyfield,mike Tyson
@MrLeoMessio4 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson when he was dedicated , pre Don King
@abelincoln56984 жыл бұрын
it had less to do with Don King being around than D'Amato not being around anymore
@Adam-cj2jg4 жыл бұрын
Tyson is the most overrated boxer in history
@joemixon8344 жыл бұрын
You mean pre Robin Givens
@asteriskapellas53444 жыл бұрын
@TAMIL TAMIL yy got beat when he got out of jail,when he abandoned his mentor kevin,when he was fighting only for the money.nice examples.you just cant accept that an 20 year old tyson has nothing to do with tyson of 90s.so much hate for no reason
@my_other_account60084 жыл бұрын
I hate all these fairy tales regarding Tyson. He was a cunt before he met Dmarto, he was a cunt before he met Don King. Don't believe me then read his Autobiography. Fuck Tyson.
@dcstef79715 жыл бұрын
just keep in mind Tyson had two careers here...the one with his adopted family who were also his trainers and the one with Don King and company.....the first career Tyson IMO defeats everyone on this list
@jonathanking88005 жыл бұрын
Cus D'Amato died in 1985, a year before Tyson became the heavyweight champ. So it's not like the two halves of his career can really be summed up the way you put it.
@petergriffin62235 жыл бұрын
Mike was the best but not the greatest
@limelife195 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanking8800 yes but he still had the trainers Gus gave him until Don king made him fire them and his manager died. He had two carrers
@cyrillayman74315 жыл бұрын
Bullshit! Tyson never fought a true tough Heavyweight until he fought Holyfield & got his ass handed to him.Tyson was 30 & Holyfield was 34.Lewis 21 & Tyson 20 sparred & Lewis smacked him around like a little bitch & was never asked back because they didn't want Tyson to lose confidents.Tyson stopped Holmes in round 3 or 4 & Holmes was coming off a 20 month retirement & was 38 years old.A young Holmes wins decision over young Tyson or late round stoppage.This young Tyson was unbeatable is a myth created by a bunch of Tyson groupie fan club who are big Tyson fans but don't watch any other boxing but Tyson fights so are uneducated boxing fans.
@aleksandarm2605 жыл бұрын
i grew up watching tyson boxing, i adored the man he was special,but now, after seing the big picture i realize he never beat anyone good, only one name Larry Holmes and we both know he was an old washed up boxer at the time....And he lost to Holyfield, Lewis, he even lost to Buster, and all we can make are excuses why he lost and so on...in the end he was good and great maybe, but never should be considered one of the greatest! And people saying when he was in his prime!!! WHO DID HE BEAT THAT WAS GOOD WHEN TYSON WAS IN HIS PRIME?
@user-vb3vq3xu3d4 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis easily: Has the best resume by far, he beat the best guys in one of the toughest eras, beat every man he stepped inside the ring with and till this day he remains the last undisputed HW champion.
@gongylophis70784 жыл бұрын
Floris that is exactly the same opinion like mine
@sportskiarhiv27304 жыл бұрын
When somebody say name Lennox Lewis I think he run away from Klitschko
@nikolavujacic28204 жыл бұрын
The next one will be AJ
@jmcfintona9994 жыл бұрын
@@sportskiarhiv2730 nah he got old. Beat vitali
@Kaiserbill994 жыл бұрын
@@sportskiarhiv2730 Klitschko's face would probably disagree with you.
@joshuaram1004 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis by far, great record, beat everyone he’s every faced (avenged his 2 loses). Retired as the undisputed lineal champion. Fought great competition. Overcame adversity. He’s arguably the top 3 heavyweights of all time!!!
@GrubKiller4362 жыл бұрын
There's no argument. He's definitely up there.
@ghaiyourali1352 Жыл бұрын
Has Lennox avenged his defeat to Oliver Mcall ??? Let me know, please...
@tomgriffiths2272 Жыл бұрын
@@ghaiyourali1352 yes
@isaacm.2377 Жыл бұрын
@@tomgriffiths2272 The avenged loss was a weird situation though, considering McCall's unusual behavior.
@darrellfort1668 Жыл бұрын
completely disagree
@santorostone4 жыл бұрын
Iron Mike Tyson. He had the most impact.thats it lets go home
@TheSBleeder4 жыл бұрын
Knocked out by Holyfield, Lewis, and Douglas.
@sataniccyanide69764 жыл бұрын
thats the most retarded thing anyone couldve possibly said
@christopheranderson88754 жыл бұрын
Ali would’ve killed him
@westsidewoodledge88924 жыл бұрын
Douglas lost to mediocre guys. So did Lewis so did Holyfield. Tyson was the greatest boxing ever. Seen. He beat pinklon Thomas, tucker, riddick bowe, Carl th truth, Biggs, spinks, bruno
@sataniccyanide69764 жыл бұрын
@@westsidewoodledge8892 actually thats the most retarded thing anyone said thomas, tucker, spinks, ruddock etc were all fighters far below his level and trying to use that as a reason he was the greatest is clownish, tyson literally never fought bowe and tyson lost to all the fighters you listed at the top
@marksprinkle4 жыл бұрын
None of these guys, including Ali, would feel too good about looking across the ring at a prime Mike Tyson. His movement, speed, and power were all ludicrous.
@malikh77614 жыл бұрын
Riddick Bowe would kill Tyson in their primes. Tyson didn’t want to fight him at all.
@AdonMaster4 жыл бұрын
lol, holyfield felt great! (besides the ear thing lol)
@jakeyboy65464 жыл бұрын
@@AdonMaster I think he meant in the late 80s that's when Tyson was at his best
@jakeyboy65464 жыл бұрын
@@malikh7761 they knew each other as children
@jaybreacher44304 жыл бұрын
Mark Sprinkle Ali May have not liked it but his mind games and taunts would’ve beaten Tyson before the fight, Tyson would try to kill Ali and Ali’s speed plus smarts would’ve aloud him to pick his moment when Tyson was gassed out. Tyson is easy second best of all time but you just can’t beat Ali, Tyson’s own words.
@rosscoe86743 жыл бұрын
I think there's a lot to be said for Evander Holyfield being essentially buffed cruiserweight size and fighting guys, 20, 30 and 40 pounds heavier than himself, and oftentimes giving up several inches in height and reach. He fought Buster Douglas and won, George Foreman and won, beat Riddick Bowe in one of their trilogy fights, beat Ray Mercer, beat Michael Moorer after losing to him previously, beat Mike Tyson twice, and fought Lennox Lewis twice for a draw and a loss. Name one other fighter of any era since Ali that has fought that many big names and champions at the size Holyfield was, and won against as many as he did. Dude is a legend.
@FinalOmission2 жыл бұрын
I'm not trying to take anything from holyfeild, but that draw was straight bullshit. I could watch that first fight a 100 times, with a 100 different people and they would agree lewis won that.
@tomgriffiths2272 Жыл бұрын
Roided up cruiserweight*
@GrubKiller436 Жыл бұрын
I'd saw Lennox Lewis beat him twice. That first fight was a scandal. The second fight was closer to a draw than even the first fight.
@MattanzaMafiaFedora Жыл бұрын
You conflate being able to fight someone with being able to win... Holyfield is a worthy name in Heavyweight history, but not the best.
@rebelliousredneckvlogs Жыл бұрын
Not since Ali but Jack Dempsey beat tons of top contenders with massive height and weight advantages
@kvnrthr1589 Жыл бұрын
In terms of achievement, I think Lewis dominated a much more competitive era, his wins over Holyfield and Klitschko are better than any individual Holmes victory. Not that Holmes was a worse boxer, it's just that there was no other big name for him to beat in his prime. Holmes is probably more consistent though, I can't imagine him ever losing to Rahman or McCall.
@jeffmarlatt65384 жыл бұрын
The Easton Assassin is the Dr.Dre of heavyweight boxing. People forget how great this man was at his craft.
@Dav1d151962 жыл бұрын
Yeah Ali is tupac, Foreman is Biggie xD
@claudedalton89702 жыл бұрын
YES, LARRY HOLMES WAS AS SOLID AS THEY GET! HE NEVER LOST ANY FIGHT TO MICHEAL SPINKS EITHER!
@MattanzaMafiaFedora Жыл бұрын
Weaker era, as Rummy correctly states.
@MattanzaMafiaFedora Жыл бұрын
@@claudedalton8970 Wrong, the first fight is clearly a Spinks victory.
@whatitisnt82704 жыл бұрын
I agree. Holmes is one of the most underrated fighter's, because he followed the G.O.A.T.
@angelovelrod2593 жыл бұрын
"The Real Deal" was the man!
@stephenhayes4874 жыл бұрын
Why isn’t Rocky Balboa, man ended a whole war and not even a mention
@yousha41984 жыл бұрын
Rocky Balboa is not real. He is just a fictional character😂😂😂😂😂😂.
@timothyroka12344 жыл бұрын
😅😅
@NanoSplit14 жыл бұрын
rocky marciano must be the boxer you mean.
@groundzero10414 жыл бұрын
@@yousha4198 that's called sarcasm
@andrewcarson58504 жыл бұрын
Love it! YouRug and Tonni should go and hide somewhere for missing that quip.
@Manutegaming6 жыл бұрын
Butterbean
@feliscorax6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@bexyali93146 жыл бұрын
Ali faced and defeated the legendary boxers and champs that make him without a doubt the greatest boxer of all times.
@ryohazuki0075 жыл бұрын
Manute fuck yaaaeeeeh
@lilpodcastreacts5 жыл бұрын
lol
@AdobadoFantastico5 жыл бұрын
XD
@MM-sf7qv5 жыл бұрын
It's gotta be Lennox. Beat everyone he ever fought. Size, skill and big time power. His reach and slick boxing would have given a lot of great fighters before and after him a lot of trouble. I would have loved to see how Ike Ibeabuchi would have made out with Lewis Holyfeild or Tyson.
@adriaan14944 жыл бұрын
Retired to avoid vitaly rematch.
@RkZaswmvak4 жыл бұрын
@@adriaan1494 Who cares about rematch when Lewis beat Prime klitschko at 38 lol. Lewis was at the end of his career.
@boogeymann66864 жыл бұрын
Holyfield and Lennox have the best names on their resume
@BrownOpsLeak4 жыл бұрын
Who’s here after Tyson Fury whooped Deontay Wilder silly?
@sean_a97214 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@legendovbago47164 жыл бұрын
2020 HW division,, all bums
@devontaelafleur38414 жыл бұрын
buddy Isreal that’s been proven false man
@tinge19544 жыл бұрын
Tyson Fury is a joke as a boxer and a man.
@virgin1484 жыл бұрын
tinge1954 you fight him then if he’s such a joke
@dancrews77694 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson, the only one who stopped him was himself
Mike Tyson's greatness is purely based on his impact and hype, not his resume. He lost to most of the elite fighters of his time...
@davidgonzalez50444 жыл бұрын
When tyson fought lennox and hollyfield he wasn't the same same tyson from the 80 after prision tyson wasn't the same he lost the passion for boxing at that point and when tyson fought Douglas i know Tyson didnt train for that fight i remenber when he was going to fight him the show tyson partying all the time even few day before the fight the show tyson partying in toky whit a couple of Chinese girl but i bet that hollyfield lewis and Douglas foutht Tyson when hes trainer was cuz D amato he will kill those 3
@sidhant86594 жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart when he didnt take foreman's name as one of the best
@bigdan96714 жыл бұрын
You can't though can you? He only really beat Schulz and Moorer after Ali retired. Foreman is still one of the best but he's not the best since Ali
@iwanttoseemrshow4 жыл бұрын
the idea is who is the best in the POST ALI era
@kima_gr4 жыл бұрын
@@bigdan9671 Come on, he beat Alex Steward, Bert Cooper, Gerry Cooney, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, besides Michael Moorer and Axel Schultz. (In my opinion) also won a decision against a prime Shannon Briggs at the age of 48. That's something to consider don't you think?
@marjansarec23374 жыл бұрын
Rummy doesnt like Foreman
@SooncreateGod4 жыл бұрын
@@marjansarec2337 I dont think so. Rummy praised Foreman several times and called him one of the greatest heavyweights of all time in his Notable Wins video. Foreman became an ATG during the 70s after annihilating Fraizer and Norton. Even after the Ali loss, Foreman still showed that he was still game by taking out Lyle in that epic slugfest. When Foreman had his comeback in the 90s, he wasn't peak form anymore and can't take out all the young, prime lions like Holyfield and Morrison. But BIG props for Foreman blasting Moorer though. If Foreman defeated Holyfield and Morrison, he may be in this video.
@Salomessanctuary3 жыл бұрын
4 times Heavyweight Champion Evander Holyfield. 😍🙏❤
@jmcfintona9994 жыл бұрын
Lenox Lewis, his record, power, speed, defence etc. Beat all the best of his era
@kooroshrostami275 жыл бұрын
tbh Vladimir wasn't the best of his era until Vitali retired for good. Even 40 year old Vitali was better than Vladimir at the time. The guy has never been knocked down and even gave Lennox a run for his money. All losses due to injuries in fights where he was ahead on every score card at the time of stoppage. He also avanged his brother's worst losses. His granite chin is the difference and Vladimir always lacked that.
@ryanmazdaLAX4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@apomtaylor80544 жыл бұрын
Vitali has actually never been behind on the scorecards EVER! It’s crazy, goes to show how good of a boxer he was
@yousefsobhani95024 жыл бұрын
@@apomtaylor8054 Really? If that's true then that's amazing.
@ProvGANG4 жыл бұрын
Also Vitaly has a record 41 KO's of 45 fights, which is I one of the best KO/Fight ratios.
@apomtaylor80544 жыл бұрын
Yousef Sobhani yeah it’s 100% true. Even when he lost his fights he was winning on the cards. I’m not the biggest Vitali fan, but that’s something to be respected I think!
@davidfairbairn82 жыл бұрын
You’re channel really is top drawer Rummy. Love it pal. All the best!
@Markgeoghegan1004 жыл бұрын
Iron Mike in his prime before Don king destroyed him...
@Ijustinsultedyou3 жыл бұрын
He got destroyed in his prime. How can you make a judgment like that when the man never beat no big-name people? You can only judge a fighter’s greatness based on the competition he faced. Mike Tyson never been anybody. A bunch of journeyman tomato cans
@jayk95053 жыл бұрын
Me lol I didn’t even know this video was made 2 yrs ago lol. And also how does this video make sense. No man born from his mother could defeat 85-88 iron mike tyson lmaoo
@jayk95053 жыл бұрын
Iceman3000 so u swear on your mothers life that any of these men could beat the iron man in 85-88? U must be tripping dude
@Oscar-mb2oe3 жыл бұрын
Iceman3000 Lol and if he doesn’t kill your career he’ll just kill you 😂😂😂
@clearlyalunhead11093 жыл бұрын
No chance Lennox, Holmes and Holyfield are leauges above any Tyson even "prime" Tyson
@byronelenica83294 жыл бұрын
Ali danced for every round in that second Spinks fight. That fight in itself was a master class in greatness.
@nayblu64484 жыл бұрын
Tyson will always be the best to me.
@miklo69074 жыл бұрын
Me too
@honoratamazurkiewicz79954 жыл бұрын
Me 2 hese a fucking legend
@markwhittaker68664 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Trajan24014 жыл бұрын
Same here,in his prime unstoppable when he was dedicated until he started having problems outside the ring then his enthusiasm dropped and he became less didicated to training,meaning he became sluggish.Mike Tyson still for me.
@imanasshole75974 жыл бұрын
Buster Douglas made history beating mike so he in my opinion is best
@delpotroable4 жыл бұрын
Looking at this list Lennox beat 3 of the 6 and could easily have whooped Bowe and Vladimir. For that reason I rank Lewis #1
@cebapplejak59973 жыл бұрын
He beat Bowe in the amateurs
@HrishikeshKulkarni-SkyWatcher3 жыл бұрын
He beat bowe for Olympic gold medal.
@1Sodzo74 жыл бұрын
Butter Bean was the greatest! LMAO
@ardaorhan6 жыл бұрын
If Lennox was an American he'd be considered GOAT. Fought everybody, beat everybody. Got skills, size, KO power in both hands.
@morrielarsen6 жыл бұрын
because he got knocked out twice when he shouldn't have. Otherwise he would be considered better.
@ztuedeutz6 жыл бұрын
Got beat by Oliver McCall and Rockman. Was losing to Vlad before his elbow cut Vlad's eye. He didn't want a rematch and retired. Yea he was great though.
@bobber06235 жыл бұрын
No if he would have fought and beat Tyson and Holyfield earlier in their careers he would be considered the GOAT and a pro win over Bowe wouldnt have hurt either and yes dipshit i know it wasnt Lewis fault he didnt fight Bowe
@garthdrake32205 жыл бұрын
Please.
@DallasBoxer185 жыл бұрын
You must be un American
@samslick90006 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes had a career-defining victory against Ken Norton. That was one the best fights of all time.
@sopwithsnoopy87796 жыл бұрын
Very true, but Holmes also fought a bunch of lackluster fights against not-so-great mandatory challengers. If he had fought that way against any of these 6 other guys, they would have destroyed Holmes. I watched the Holmes-Witherspoon fight live on TV, I scored it for Witherspoon. On the other hand, when Holmes trained hard and was 'on', he could beat anybody on this list too.
@bobber06235 жыл бұрын
That was not prime Norton
@Ant-man_93 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rummy, great breakdown. One, important thing you haven't mentioned about Holyfield, is that he was in the game for a very long time on a high level. And he should have been the oldest HW champ after fighting Valuiev.
@claudedalton89702 жыл бұрын
ANTONI KAMINSKI, I AGREE!
@bradk7382 Жыл бұрын
He definitely beat Valuev
@cockoffgewgle4993 Жыл бұрын
A high level alright, high on steroids.
@clearlyalunhead11093 жыл бұрын
Easily Lennox Lewis imo He beat all comers, he probably has one of the best resumes of all time
@frogdropkicker8053 жыл бұрын
@Rajyavardhhana ye Idk how he gets all this credit, he was definitely an amazing boxer but people putting him above Holmes, Klitschko, Holyfield, etc is just insane. His only names were old men A 37 yo Evander A 36 yo Tyson He definitely has some names like Frank Bruno and Vitali Klitschko but putting him as the best in the last 40 years is insane
@sittienakan15943 жыл бұрын
Nah, he faced an old Holyfield and a old Mike Tyson.
@DrLoverLover3 жыл бұрын
@Dynamite please do
@gcirc2 жыл бұрын
@@sittienakan1594 he was older
@jayembrown53952 жыл бұрын
@@sittienakan1594 lewis was older than tyson
@ty27046 жыл бұрын
It's gotta be Lennox Lewis!! He dominated during an absolutely lethal era and avenged both of his losses
@feliscorax6 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. He has the best win-loss record against top contenders of any of the other candidates, and achieved all there was to achieve inside the ring. He fought the best, and he beat the best. And he did it with such emphatic power and precision, that the one fighter "The Ring" regarded as better than Lewis for a long stretch (Bowe) actually ducked him by trashing the WBC belt - literally - when Lewis was his mandatory challenger. Lewis, hands down, every day of the week.
@donaldvonglitchenberger41086 жыл бұрын
Lethal era wtf are you talking about. That was not lethal at all lol. And I think Lewis is a great but that comment is strange. On top of that he got ko'd by 2 average joes while in his prime
@wslbmg6 жыл бұрын
1 all vs all time great Rahman, not to mention a fair defeat by McCall and a revenge "win" when McCall was a mental case.
@screwyou1806 жыл бұрын
the 90's is widely regarded as the second strongest era in heavyweight history after ali/foreman/frazier etc in the 70's lewis beat or was ducked by every elite level fighter in the 90's. and unified and dominated. was robbed of two clear victories over holyfield with the judges scoring the first fight a draw. i had him winning the first fight (draw)wider than the second fight they gave him the win in. he was clearly the most consistent and dominant fighter and defeated the better fighters over a longer period. calling rahmann average because you dont know his name as well is a joke. go look at his record and who he fought. rahmann was no fucking joke. he could brawl he could box and he mixed it with some of the greatest fighters of the era. as for mccall he had been ranked inside the top ten heavyweights for years and was always there or there abouts. modern example would be luis ortiz good opponent for champions and the gatekeeper for up and coming fighters.
@williammunny60616 жыл бұрын
He got slept twice. Glass chin
@sovietai25956 жыл бұрын
1. Lennox Lewis (arguably the greatest h2h heavyweight of all time, he had longevity and dominance, he beat every man he ever faced. His only two losses were from lapses in concentration of not taking the opponent seriously, when in form he was basically unbeatable) 2. Wladimir Klitschko (extremely long reign, unbeaten for a decade) 3. Larry Holmes (similar to Wladimir's case, but he reigned for less time, and two losses Vs Spinks do much to discredit him) 4. Evander Holyfield (Awesome fighter) 5. Vitali Klitschko (Dominant, rarely lost a round, never knocked down, 2 losses came from cuts) 6. Mike Tyson (explosive, but untested and failed to rise to the occasion) 7. Riddick Bowe (h2h probably on par with Lewis, but he has less accomplishments than everyone else here)
@generalkang19695 жыл бұрын
Man, I was shocked when they pointed out that Bowe's only loss was that majority decision to Holyfield in between his two wins against him. You are right that his career has the fewest quality opponents, though... makes you wonder what could've been with him had he fought more
@AlexAzzurri5 жыл бұрын
muhammad
@someoyag3415 жыл бұрын
1. Vitali 2. Vladimir 3. Holmes 4. Lewis 5. Tyson 6. Bowe 7. Holyfield
@marvelmarvelos89955 жыл бұрын
Lenox is a chicken, and boring
@delpotroable4 жыл бұрын
Regardless of era, tyson could never beat Lewis, holyfield or even Vitali... prime or not. Lewis is the greatest in my opinion outside Ali
@lamechorinda94783 жыл бұрын
Very true!!!
@xebe.3 жыл бұрын
George foreman is the GOAT because he fought so long
@sibe1363 жыл бұрын
There is no man that has ever lived who could beat Lennox Lewis on his best day. Lewis is the greatest HW of all time. You could definetly make a case for Ali, but I still strongly believe that Lewis would come out on top more often than not.
@oisincoen65573 жыл бұрын
I dont agree with you, personally i think holyfield was the greatest other than ali, but i respect ur opinion , lewis was very good
@hardwoodthought12133 жыл бұрын
@@oisincoen6557 Holyfield had too many holes, Lennox killed him in both fights they had. Obviously Lennox is blessed with him height and reach but on their best days Holyfield couldn’t beat him, nor could he beat Bowe (who was so afraid to fight Lennox he threw his title in a trash can).
@MegaJohngt4 жыл бұрын
Great video Rummy, thought you were going to sit on the fence for a wee moment at the end of the video, Lennox best for me, then Holyfield, then Wald.
@chrispowers6276 жыл бұрын
Tyson all day. No one put fear in men like Tyson did! New subscriber. Great video!!
@kiwanishinton94106 жыл бұрын
One Stop Comic Spot what does putting fear in a person have to do with being the best of an era, Tyson said Evander was scared of the beating he was going to give him, I guess it didn't help Tyson
@mizofan6 жыл бұрын
greatly overrated, not among the top 10 heavyweights
@joshiwoshi69556 жыл бұрын
Sonny Liston is far more intimdating, casual fan
@johnnnyoh6 жыл бұрын
Sendou Takeshi this is true liston was definitely the most feared of all time maybe max Baer also who had that rep after he killed a couple dudes in the ring Tyson never killed anybody but he def seemed like he wanted to at times
@ztuedeutz6 жыл бұрын
No one had Don King fixing fights like Tyson either.
@neilclarke64414 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis because he beat 1/2 of the other people in the comparison and never fought the others, although he beat Bowe as an amateur.
@cliffdixon64224 жыл бұрын
Think you have that about right. Holmes was an extremely underrated fighter as he followed on from what was probably the best era ever in heavyweight boxing
@vernonleewarren2803 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@crookedaxle4 күн бұрын
Holyfield has always been one of my favorite fighters. I am especially reminded of what a tough bassturd he is watching his losses. Warrior is right! Always in top shape, never ducked a fight, never quit, fought all comers and never got bullied by anyone and they were nearly all bigger than him.
@philmolyneux22966 жыл бұрын
Big shout from the u.k great channel Rummy 👍
@jamesmcdade96876 жыл бұрын
I have to second that(pun intended) :)
@XSnowStorm13X6 жыл бұрын
Probably Charles Martin
@PowerfulFupa6 жыл бұрын
G.O.A.T
@thelondonpropertyscout16466 жыл бұрын
He’s definetly up there
@stevegreen94606 жыл бұрын
your forgetting about peter macnealy !!
@KodziroHyuga6 жыл бұрын
gotta some weed?
@1990198520076 жыл бұрын
KodziroHyuga Charles Martin a big fan of the green
@KiNgCrAFtkSa4 жыл бұрын
big george foreman is the second greatest after ali
@jimmyc15184 жыл бұрын
People are going to have to start considering Tyson Fury in this conversation. He fights like a white Ali.
@44general564 жыл бұрын
Jimmy C yes but no Ali is different
@CoIumbo4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyc1518 no fucking chance
@jimmyc15184 жыл бұрын
@@44general56 different in what way? kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6qzYZKPedWKpsk
@jimmyc15184 жыл бұрын
@@CoIumbo yes fucking chance.
@scotsman2424243 жыл бұрын
Holyfield or Lewis the greatest of my era, tyson was most exciting though and my personal favourite.
@draganbosnjakovic71734 жыл бұрын
In terms of skill Lewis but in terms of had the biggest impact on the sport Tyson.
@JohnSmith-oe5kx4 жыл бұрын
At his peak, Tyson had skills that rivalled anyone's, and I include Ali.
@JeanAlesiagain34 жыл бұрын
Tyson knocked out Lenox when they were 18 and 19. Lenox passed out cold. They sparred for 4 days and it was the same every day. Lenox will not release the footage to the public, but he says he has it. He claim that on the 4th day Tyson did not dominate him. But others who were there say Tyson was far superior
@H.K.54 жыл бұрын
@@JeanAlesiagain3 Lol, Lewis was a kid. When they fought in 2002, Lewis demolished him.
@jnormile99246 жыл бұрын
Gotta be Holyfield for me the fact that he moved up from cruiser and dominated the way he did is amazing 3 signature wins with the 2 Tyson fights and the bowe win, a win against an old homes and a game old foreman the only thing that taints him in my mind is sticking around for to long.
@jeanmartin13735 жыл бұрын
roids helped a bit but shhhh
@alexasdourian14175 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. Buuuut he should have won vs. Valuev so it's not thaaat bad he stuck around.
@generalwadehampton.2578Ай бұрын
@@jeanmartin1373cry. Tyson constantly threw elbows hit downed opponents and headbutting. Cry more Tyson Stan Tyson got beat.
@richcastle67963 жыл бұрын
Rummy you are an absolute pound for pound legend ✊🏼 It’s a Holmes v Lewis mega fight for me! Battle of the jabs but possibly that massive over the top right of Lewis getting through at some point!?
@ciarahall54023 жыл бұрын
Maybe in a rematch Lennox never knew what he had
@keithmead40852 жыл бұрын
Hi Rummy, We had the same top 2 but I had Tyson in 3rd and Bowe 4th..I love this stuff, ty brother
@bocmeister77664 жыл бұрын
Ali Tyson Foreman 3 best of all time don’t @ me
@brooklyn5604 жыл бұрын
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@antonzavgorodnii31694 жыл бұрын
Joe Frazier...
@johnmartin24364 жыл бұрын
Two out three ain't bad
@TheLuscious4 жыл бұрын
Then stfu bc you left out Joe Louis Dempsey Jack Johnson even Marciano
@taimcintosh13364 жыл бұрын
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@Anna._.814 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis, he faced all the top fighters in a golden era for heavyweight boxing and retired with no unavenged defeats, Tyson in his prime struggled twice against Ruddock, Lewis destroyed Ruddock.
@JohnSmith-oe5kx4 жыл бұрын
Tyson was well past his prime by Ruddock, it was all downhill after Spinks.
@Anna._.814 жыл бұрын
He was only 21 when he fought Spinks
@robertkulikowski63804 жыл бұрын
Lewis struggled with Bruno. Lewis didtnt beat Prime Tyson Prime holyfield Prime bowe and he was lucky with Klischko
@Anna._.814 жыл бұрын
@@robertkulikowski6380 Tyson paid Lewis 4 million in step aside money when he was WBC champ, Bowe surrendered the belt instead of facing Lewis
@Reeplay74 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx Stupid idiot. He was only 21 when i fought Spinks. You mean that he's prime was in 3 years only?
@Cooksvillexx3 жыл бұрын
Lewis gets a nod for me, avenging his defeats to secure his status. He unified and dominated
@frasercormack58534 жыл бұрын
They’re all amazing.
@hartsickdisciple4 жыл бұрын
I think Holmes and Tyson, in their primes, were the best from this list.
@jaydengray40154 жыл бұрын
hartsickdisciple Holyfield and Lewis are the best since ali
@AnHebrewChild4 жыл бұрын
Jaymoneybagz your answer is incorrect.
@bigdan96714 жыл бұрын
@@AnHebrewChild no, Lewis is
@nmlols6 жыл бұрын
George Foreman
@glynhannaford73322 жыл бұрын
Really interesting article and brilliant analysis bud. I totally agree with those included in your list of seven, and with your reasons for leaving others out. I fully understand why the K bros chose not to fight each other, but in terms of legacy for discussions such as this, neither truly unified the division whilst they refused to fight each other. It's a close thing which probably means there is no obvious king post Ali. For me Lennox did it all and is the pick of the bunch. He unified the division, became undisputed, faced mandatories, beat most of his contemporaries, beat great names of his time, from the previous era and the rising star VKlitchko. In 44 pro fights he avenged both of his losses and avenged his only draw. As a pro he even avenged his amateur loss in the Olympics to the very talented Tyrell Biggs. Retired at the top. I don't know now why he did not take the mandatories of John Ruiz or Chris Byrd. There were probably good reasons.
@paysonfox884 жыл бұрын
You got this one right Rummy. 48-0 That is the record that Larry Holmes began his career with. And we all know the 49th and 50th against Michael Spinks were train robberies by the judges. It became blatantly obvious in the 2nd Spinks fight that the boxing admins wanted Holmes to go away, so they stole his victory and basically gave it to Spinks for staying on his feet 15 rounds.
@MultiHinrik6 жыл бұрын
this is the best video i have ever watched. my personal favourite is Hollyfield, he was in some incredible wars and usually the smaller guy
@sunnyliston75034 жыл бұрын
I would say lewis is best tyson had potential he's my favorite no doubted prolly the best fighter in his prime but bad decisions and negative influence messed it all up I say lewis he's was invincible
@gershomtan58794 жыл бұрын
Sunny Liston smartest and definitely took the least damage of every fighter on the list.
@BigRayHernandez4 жыл бұрын
You have the BEST boxing channel on all of KZbin
@Ricorican774 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows boxing do videos definitely suscribed
@johndavies22854 жыл бұрын
I am 57 now and and have followed boxing my whole life. I have to say, this is one of the most thoughtful, contemplative boxing videos I have seen; I can not disagree with anything you say. I think one other area you might have considered more explicitly is the (relative) type of fighter each of these guys was; I.e. “boxer” vs “puncher”. Champions like Tyson and Foreman won most of their fights in dramatic, dominant fashion, while Holmes and Holyfield were more tactical, and won most of their fights by wearing down their opponents over several rounds. There are other intangible things that go into such discussions. George Foreman was technically only Champion for a brief time (times two, only the latter after Ali’s retirement) but I think the extraordinary arc of his whole career is utterly unique. Again, very well done.
@aqeelkhan12714 жыл бұрын
John I am just 34 , I believe is knowledge and right knowledge throughout the world , u r absolutely right , but hand work should be perfect but footwork should be best, if you r tall enough then play both front foot and backfoot like Ali, if u r small then u should be on front foot like tyson, Holyfield was technically perfact powerful but the biggest mistake again reddick is backfoot ......
@matthewcb19706 жыл бұрын
Good analysis, I'd rate Holmes top as well. Good to see Holyfield getting recognition too.
@aaronbradley32325 жыл бұрын
Holyfield a little too low I have Holyfield at 1 Larry Holmes at 2 Vladimir at 3 Lewis at 4
@jasonellis97773 жыл бұрын
I think you have to give it to Holyfield. He had the strongest strength of opposition and ducked no one. I’m a Tyson fan and think in his prime he beats them all. But Holyfield has the longevity and the number of big fights to be called the best Heavyweight post Muhammad Ali.
@jsquire5pa Жыл бұрын
And lost twice to Lewis .. great cruiserweight
@OperationMindPhuk4 жыл бұрын
joe frazier and george foreman would've beat almost all people since that era too, would love to see prime joe frazier vs mike tyson :O
@jimmyc15184 жыл бұрын
I'd take Frazier in that fight.
@englishguy96804 жыл бұрын
Me too, That's one of the best fantasy fights. Either one could knock the other out at any time but I'd take Frazier to take Tyson into the deep waters and drown him.
@ethanyule27134 жыл бұрын
Mitsi Grabblerberg he didnt have a glass jaw he didnt have no granite chin either but chill with the glass jaw remarks 😂😂🤣
@saikatkar44524 жыл бұрын
@@englishguy9680 If Foreman couldn't do it, no one in the history of Boxing could knock Joe out. He was a monster in that regard.
@fernandocamardelli93404 жыл бұрын
Amazing fight, but don t think Joe could resist more than 3 round with Mike in his prime.
@samuellaurent61394 жыл бұрын
Lewis was a monstrmer underrated, besides, he defeated the bests of his hera except Bowe that always avoided him... Period...
@thuggathuggababy4 жыл бұрын
Samuel LAURENT no lmao. The first time they couldn’t get an agreement done. The second Lewis lost to Oliver McCall... please tell me do you know who Oliver McCall is? Neither does anyone else lmao. So no it was your boy Lewis who lost the opportunity.
@ykd8184 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis?? Aaaahahah, ahahaha ahahaha. Yeah right! Lennox Lewis came along after everyone's hey day passed. And he still barely flashed in the pan. Man he was boring to watch to boot
@jaygee85255 жыл бұрын
You sir, you know your boxing. I love this video. Finally someone who logically explains the best since, and even explains it by saying Larry Holmes [after Ali]. Not many people truly understood the greatness of Larry.
@Nkosinati5 жыл бұрын
Larry was just very unlucky in many ways when it came to earning respect. What would you say were Larry's 3 most impressive career victories?
@tylerroberts95564 жыл бұрын
His absolute domination over Randall Tex Cobb, his knockout victory against Gerry Cooney, and his close decision over Earnie Shavers. In my opinion, at least.
@sj44484 жыл бұрын
@@Nkosinati Shavers, Norton and Witherspoon.
@amitsinha29434 жыл бұрын
johnny ghabach u know nothing abt boxing kid🤫
@kuyandakala46234 жыл бұрын
What a well put video! Started following boxing during the Joshua-Wilder era but i've watched a few videos about previous champs and ey... I'm with Lennox Lewis😬
Luke Bashian lol no holmes would destroy vitali and tyson dont know about holyfield and lewis, they would be great battles
@caspar93484 жыл бұрын
agree
@joshuac63894 жыл бұрын
You're not giving Larry much credit. He had two huge career defining moments: his fight with Norton was legendary and the 15th round belongs in a time capsule. The second moment was the victory over Cooney. If you were alive for it you knew it was a mega event because of the implication of a possible white heavyweight champion. The president of the United States is said to have called Cooney before the fight. Larry had to face down all that and he did victoriously. Also re Holmes v Klitschko - Larry's jab and heart would make both Klitschkos quit or get stopped. An old Lewis chopped up Vitali - a prime Holmes with the best jab in the history of boxing would have done far more damage. And Larry's quality of competition was respectable - Mike Weaver, Earnie Shavers (twice!), and the aforementioned Norton. The fact that no other contender was on Larry's level doesn't mean the division was weak it meant Larry was that good.
@etistone4 жыл бұрын
Dude, he put him first on his list.
@oakland24254 жыл бұрын
Weaver, Shavers and Norton fights were all before Ali retired so they doesn't count.
@riccardoalcaro84834 жыл бұрын
Holmes' jab was stellar, you're right. The best though...I don't know, Ali's jab was fantastic too, especially before the forced retirement. And Sonny Liston's...the man's jab was like a freight train moving at full speed
@being.official73464 жыл бұрын
Gud that u didnt mention holmes disrespectfull fight wid M.Ali the king of boxing.
@H.K.54 жыл бұрын
He's giving Larry too much credit actually. He shouldn't even be in this list. Fought in a terrible, weak era of heavyweights and then started losing when guys like Tyson came.
@talha76104 жыл бұрын
After Tyson heavyweight stardom never reached that pinnacle
@simonlavelle55723 жыл бұрын
Your voice is perfect for this subject 😁 You could easily be a boxing commentator
@carlkyyu7432 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis by far, he had all, dominated the most challenging era in heavyweight boxing, avenged his two only career loses and retired on top
@Leeroynumanuma6 жыл бұрын
Tough decision. I would have to go with Holmes or Lewis. Both guys deserve a lot more praise.
@YudazOwn6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.. But I got Riddick Bowe
@michaelswan4486 жыл бұрын
I think Holmes suffers from the perception that he was top in a weak era. But he has got a good resume and 20 defences is pretty impressive
@Grendelbc5 жыл бұрын
Prime Holmes, Tyson and Holyfield would walk through any of the lads from the last 10 - 15 years. Heavyweight boxing used to be exciting. These days it's just not worth watching.
@blacksmith34414 жыл бұрын
The promblem with holmes is no buddy likes him cuz what he did to the goat
@officiallykb15504 жыл бұрын
@@blacksmith3441 especially watching Tyson fury vs deontay wilder
@alangrace86282 жыл бұрын
Keep them coming rummy great work... and you DO know your shit about boxing 👍👍👍
@acpliego4 жыл бұрын
Imo you’re by far the best boxing analyst that I know off, maybe it’s because I agree with your opinions and you go deeper in the analysis, lol. I’d put Lewis in 1st though. Great video!
@itchylove7566 жыл бұрын
Though as you say his prime was not long , I say it was TYSON , As first: his mere emerging from nowhere was like the first atomic bomb emerging. Second, his style was specific, a killer style, intimidating to death.
@deanwaller82835 жыл бұрын
Nope,his "prime" is what casuals keep echoing Great fighters find a way Ali beat foreman when Ali was long past his "prime" Lewis beat Klitschko when he was long past his "prime" Foreman beat moorer to become champ when he was almost 20 years past his "prime" Holmes went the distance with holyfield when he was long past his "prime" Holyfield beat Tyson twice when evander was way past his "prime" Mike was over rated to the moon and back ,he never once beat any true quality
@kennykross3306 Жыл бұрын
@@deanwaller8283 bullshit. Larry holmes,spinks and many more
@maitrecontroleprincipal17045 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis . By far .
@joshuaram1004 жыл бұрын
IMO, Lewis is the best Heavyweight of all time, he avenged all of his loses. And he had more longevity as a champ in a dominant and tough heavyweight era
@lxnxr12562 жыл бұрын
I disagree, Muhammad Ali was greater than Lewis, the only losses he didn't avenge were losses that occurred when he was far past his prime and suffering from Parkinson's.
@claudedalton89702 жыл бұрын
I WILL AGREE THAT LEWIS WAS A GREAT ONE BUT, FOR SOME HERE THAT KEEP TALKING ABOUT ALI, I WATCHED MOST EVERY FIGHT ALI FOUGHT AND HE ALWAYS HAD THE JUDGES AND THE LIBERAL PRESS IN HIS COURT! JUST WATCH THE "ALI/NORTON III" FIGHT LIVE HERE ON UTUBE AND WATCH AS NORTON WAS ROBBED OF THAT FIGHT! I HAVE TO SAY, THAT I THINK THE HEART AND WILL HAD TO GO TO EVANDER HOLLIFIELD! BUT, AGAIN, LEWIS WAS GREAT BUT, OF "ALL TIME"?????....HE HAD JACK DEMPSEY, ROCKY MARCIANO, JOE LEWIS, GEORGE FOREMAN, AND JOE LEWIS TO GO THRU FIRST....THAT IS; "ALL TIME"!
@The_king5672 жыл бұрын
@@lxnxr1256 nah ali wasn’t greater than Lennox and he didn’t have Parkinson’s when he lost to joe and ken
@mikedidas7269 Жыл бұрын
Trainers and out of the ring manners/ circumstances are so underrated
@thelogician98795 жыл бұрын
Rummy, great stuff as always, never fails to be thought-provoking. Thanks for finally (in my perception) giving Lennox Lewis some love. He always fought up to or down to his level of competition, which was his only flaw as well as what made him an extraordinary champion. It meant he dominated top-tier competition every time and only lost occasionally when he got bored by the matchup and got lazy. He avenged all of those losses, of course. I'm happy to see you acknowledge that Bowe was an inferior fighter relative to Lewis, because it has always been my impression that you give Bowe too much credit, especially for a guy who threw the WBC belt in the trash to duck a guy he knew would beat him. I sincerely mean thank you for giving the nod to Lewis here, not in a sarcastic way. With the way Lewis destroyed Golata and the way he toyed with and methodically dismantled Tyson, I just can't see any other heavyweight since Ali having a stronger claim to being the best than Lennox Lewis. British folks have accused me of being a "homer' for fellow American Deontay Wilder as basically a nightmare matchup for Anthony Joshua in my opinion. But that's not about me being an American, that's my opinion from analyzing those two fighters. My opinion is also that Brit/Canadian Lennox Lewis was by far the best heavyweight since Muhammad Ali, so it's not about where I happened to be born.
@HHMGBOSS6 жыл бұрын
Prime for prime... I'm going with Tyson. Then Bowe. Then Lewis. And before anyone tries to go postal on me... A prime Mike Tyson isn't in the 90's. Tyson around '86-'88 was literally untouchable, offensively AND defensively. Bowe and Lewis simply because of how they fought against the toughest in the division at the time...Holyfield, who conveniently waited until AFTER Tyson's conviction and prison sentence to actually want to fight him. I pick Tyson in his prime over ANYONE. Why? Because Muhammad Ali said it too.
@TheSBleeder5 жыл бұрын
Greg Terrance Wrong. Holyfield was scheduled to fight Tyson in June of 1990. The deal was all but inked. All Tyson had to do was beat a 42-1 underdog in Tokyo. Then in 1992 they were once again slated to fight each other. THEN Tyson went to prison. Your "Holyfield waited until Tyson was out of prison to try to fight Tyson" is a lie.
@mikeoxbig49055 жыл бұрын
lol here we go with that "prime" Tyson bullshit. Buster Douglass fucked up prime Tyson. Holyfield and Holyfield way better tyhan Tyson. Tyson was the mos popular and had the most hype.
@leodavies93835 жыл бұрын
@@mikeoxbig4905 never did you know Tyson ko buster who was on the floor for 13 seconds
@mdmcdd11175 жыл бұрын
Um, he was prime. He was 23 yrs old, undefeated heavyweight champion. Sounds prime to me.
@mdmcdd11175 жыл бұрын
True. I do give him credit for Holmes. Holmes was a tough guy, and Mike took him out, Holmes was old i know, but still a good victory. We have to give him credit for Spinks too
@VvProtocallvV4 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson man his legacy is crazy and we won't have another like him for a long long while
@realbertram Жыл бұрын
I love seeing good young and old Larry jumping on cars ... teaching young heavyweights a lesson. Still faaast..!
@nathanielpele34984 жыл бұрын
Evander Holyfield no doubt never backed down from any fighters
@sthdavfhnv75434 жыл бұрын
Wb david haye
@odinswolf39394 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel Pele smart chose
@norsemanrom95314 жыл бұрын
The real deal is my choice too
@yewnn67464 жыл бұрын
Bullshit Larry Holmes I'll kick your ass for that
@pauloskidane28194 жыл бұрын
Too inconsistent
@Shagwellsback4 жыл бұрын
I'll take iron mike tyson in his prime late 80s over anyone but that's just me 😉
@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies4 жыл бұрын
Yes, before Robin Givens and that piece of shit mother of hers got involved, and prior to Don King coming along and stealing all he had Tyson was unstoppable. If he'd have kept Bill Cayton as manager and Kevin Rooney as trainer, and NOT gotten Robin the gold-digging whore and her Cruella DeVille gold-digging whore mom in his life, Tyson would likely have continued on a great path.
@rickryan53204 жыл бұрын
@@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies We're talking facts not "IF" . The issue with your statement and so many other Tyson fan boys is that they confuse what he actually achieved to what he "COULD" have been. Lennox/Holyfield have far better accomplishments and they both beat Tyson!
@SongJiangShiJin4 жыл бұрын
@@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies lol, yeah it's always the others. First it was that vile and evil woman, than it was his promoter, but it was never him, right? Wonder how you can form a coherent sentence with your head so far up his arse
@BuckyMcCletus4 жыл бұрын
@@rickryan5320 But you have to consider that. Lennox and Holyfield faced Mike during the absolute worst part of his life while they had amazing coaches and managers. Mike could not be stopped with his previous crew and would've killed them if Mike didnt get all the gold diggers on him
@isaidwhatisaid97404 жыл бұрын
shagwellsback no that's just ALOT OF US! 😂😂😂😎
@OdashMack3 жыл бұрын
I love hearing this guy talk boxing!
@jakemartin43052 жыл бұрын
I agree 1and 2 but 3 should be moved to 7th and everyone else moved up love the content rummy you keep me entertained between fight👏👍
@ashnewby64656 жыл бұрын
IRON MIKE TYSON OBVIOUSLY
@ftankfregacalleja64345 жыл бұрын
Ash Newby who'd he beat worth mentioning? All big name fighters Tyson fought he lost
@ftankfregacalleja64345 жыл бұрын
@jessesam ur kidding right? Holmes was definitely over the hill n at the end of his career. Lots of wear n tear on that body mind. Tyson was young fresh n basically in his prime not alot of miles on his odometer. If it was vice versa Holmes would've flattened Tyson. Tyson was the goat on punching a heavy bag n destroying washed up or average boxers
@mradamsmith93655 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous, tyson dominated the weakest era in heavyweight boxing history for a couple of years, got dominated and knocked out by james douglas (Who was no great shake himself) got whooped twice by a faded holyfeild who was the first all time great he fought and got dominated and knocked out by an ageing lewis who was the second and last all time great he fought. He ducked a 40 year old george foreman, never got it on with any of the top guys of the 90's such as tua, morrison, mercer, just fought cab driver after cab driver with the occasional semi decent heavyweight such as razor rudduck an tony tucker and when he did face a half decent opponent like rudduck or tucker he struggled and went 12 rounds and when he fought Elite opposition he got dominated and lost. and you consider that the greatest heavyweight since Ali? pull your head out the sand.
@generalkang19695 жыл бұрын
Everyone I knew back in 1988 thought this way - they all thought Tyson was unbeatable... I still remember (like it was yesterday) being in our college dorm and watching the Tyson/Douglas fight... when Douglas knocked him out we ran up to the arena where the men's hoops team was playing and just started telling everyone we could find that Tyson had lost... and no one believed us until they announced it over the PA system. Then everyone figured that the one loss was a fluke, and that Tyson was still the best there was... no one ever bothered noticing that he was consistently ducking the fighters that defined the sport in the 1990s - Morrison, Moorer, Mercer, Foreman, Bowe - only fought Holyfield once he thought Holyfield was shot, and only fought Lewis when he was at the end and desperate (and, whatever anyone says about him being 'past his prime' in that fight, he was a year younger than Lewis). Mike Tyson was a carefully-managed con game that wasn't nearly as good as his image made him look to be.
@stec18085 жыл бұрын
@@generalkang1969 you have to fight either lennox, foreman, Mercer, Douglas or Tyson ? no one would pick Tyson 😂 are you sure it was just him doing the ducking?