Runcam Link Phoenix HD vs. Caddx Polar Vista: which to settle for since 120fps is out of stock?

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Joshua Bardwell

Joshua Bardwell

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-- TABLE OF CONTENTS --
0:00 - Intro and commercial disclosure
1:14 - DJI vTX is made by DJI not Caddx or Runcam. The cameras are what separates them.
3:41 - DJI FPV cameras are interchangeable between DJI vTX
4:08 - The Phoenix HD is a 60 fps camera. Why that's bad.
6:08 - Flight test: Phoenix HD vs. Caddx Polar vs. Vista vs. Nebula Nano
10:44 - Test pattern and FOV comparison
12:05 - Low-light test: Caddx Polar vs. Runcam Phoenix HD
13:31 - Conclusion: which one should you buy?

Пікірлер: 248
@lilianamelendez2352
@lilianamelendez2352 6 ай бұрын
I’m 62, flying since the 70’s and will not give up my passion for Rc flight. Your videos are a must for me. This one has been really, really, really informative. Thank you!
@wearemany73
@wearemany73 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve begun to realise that pushing the HD technology forward is a very worthwhile mission. Kudos to you for insight JB 👍❤️😎
@sidchisle
@sidchisle 2 жыл бұрын
Your property is quite nice visually and fun to fly through. Thank you for the great videos and reviews.
@mattlago
@mattlago 2 жыл бұрын
As usual great content. Thank you for putting in an entire tool chest, whenever I justify my fpv addiction I just show your room!
@ninmarioscc
@ninmarioscc 2 жыл бұрын
I like how Bardwell tells you what you wanna know in the first 10 seconds of the video. 👍
@hazonku
@hazonku 2 жыл бұрын
Right? I super appreciate that & it causes me to stick around for the details every time. LOL
@genjitsu7448
@genjitsu7448 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I tend to write massive walls of text that sometimes end up not even making sense. Missing points, or whatever... so it is a skill and that is one reason why watching Joshua's videos is so appealing. He eems a little bit quirky but then so what, we all have something. So 9/10 for what he does!
@gecko3128
@gecko3128 2 жыл бұрын
Great Head Test! Crystal clear understanding the resolution of cameras!
@mickeyg.c.1654
@mickeyg.c.1654 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful surroundings beautiful flying!
@verox43
@verox43 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I'm still checking on nebula pro stock everyday with hope it will come back. Latest news is October 12 when Caddx will get their share of super semiconductors, uk stores say :)
@MrMartinRome
@MrMartinRome 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joshua, as usual, good information. I was considering replacing my Polar cameras but now that I have seen this, I won’t be doing it with the Phoenix. Will wait for the Nebula Pro.
@TheMadmacs
@TheMadmacs 2 жыл бұрын
great to see runcam, (the og fpv cam people) getting official support. as a runcam fanboy i have to say caddx make some great cameras but i was slightly miffed runcam were left out of the powerloop when dji fpv appeared. ps. theres a caddx polar nano now fyi.
@rolliseventeen
@rolliseventeen 2 жыл бұрын
Hey JB, you have more hair with the vista HD, which is kinda interesting for pilots 40 and up. hahaha. i like the Link Phoenix, i like the Polar more, because i think i will fly a lot in the darker hours in winter. i ordered a Explorer V2 and a few days ago another Polar kit for the new 3´ Tadpole HD frame. i waited so long for this HD Video system and flew just 1 hour with "good" analog equipm. i was pissed with the distortions and other things, i think i would have taken a nano, but now the Polar is ok for me. looking forward to have a nice winter and next summer flying with this new systems. i fly since x-ufo times 2005 and go up to 100% again in this hobby. i wish all FPV Fans a good bitrate.
@Brucetoob
@Brucetoob Жыл бұрын
Yo theses videos are usually hard to watch but you gotta to get the information. This guy's got it figured out great video crazy informative 👍 keep going! I'm subscribed.
@Rip1Outdoors
@Rip1Outdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Watched it all. Good review Joshua
@Kettenhund75
@Kettenhund75 2 жыл бұрын
Bummer... no polar comparison on the color chart. It was very interesting to see all of these cameras compared even though finding a vista or OG DJI cam is like finding a unicorn. The only ones I was interested in comparing are the phoenix and polar.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
Umm wow that is an oversight. I didn't mean to leave Polar out.
@chadward9523
@chadward9523 2 жыл бұрын
Just add a story/link in the description?
@Kettenhund75
@Kettenhund75 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell No worries - you're a busy man.
@Gam3r134
@Gam3r134 Жыл бұрын
These shits are being sold on aliexpress like they sell rice low how much rice is in a bag of rice they r selling these things at that amount on aliexpress
@lowlifescum
@lowlifescum 2 жыл бұрын
Love how you whisper for night time tests :) 💤
@johncarold
@johncarold 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh Great video and review of the RunCam Phoenix HD , I think it is great that more cameras are available for the DJI system. I hope that the price of them will come down. Thanks for the video and information.
@MrGunawan79
@MrGunawan79 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much this video really opened my mind
@gigazman
@gigazman 2 жыл бұрын
Good job! Thanks for this hard work!
@seewell8168
@seewell8168 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to include the colour chart, very helpful. Was it just my eyes or did I detect a bit of digital shimmer in the Link?
@charlesw.3245
@charlesw.3245 2 жыл бұрын
I love flying polar because I usually only have time to fly 1 or 2 packs when I get home at dusk right now. Usually by the time I land the last pack it's just shifted into being completely dark outside and while flying it still looks early dusk outside. The low light is awesome.
@stickboyfpv4742
@stickboyfpv4742 11 ай бұрын
Hahahah I know right man😂 I be flying.... flyying.... up to 8 min with my 6 inch rig..... Id land and pop out the goggles like wtf...!! Dayng near black out!😂 and my hd footage be dark as haill😊
@califpv
@califpv 2 жыл бұрын
This runcam looks great!
@timothyciarlette8250
@timothyciarlette8250 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison, thanks.
@baggszilla
@baggszilla 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Runcam Phoenix HD has a better image than the Polar and Nebula nano but I do see a little fish eye when panning left and right. Thanks JB. I can't wait from them to sell the Caddx Micro HD alone or with the AUL.
@overfly_pt
@overfly_pt 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent job 👌👍🔝
@unything2696
@unything2696 2 жыл бұрын
Caddx Nebula Pro will be in stock in Europe on 15.10.21 (dd/mm/yy). Telling you this means there are less left for me, but sharing is caring. So the waiting will be over soon.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, wow... I agree the Polar is better at night, but both the Polar and the Phoenix HD could register that star! Fantastic! 😮 Do you have any idea of which star was that, Joshua? I would bet it's Venus or Jupiter... Anyway, fantastic review and comparison! Thanks a lot! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@cpfpv6410
@cpfpv6410 2 жыл бұрын
I don't fly DJI but I thought the Runcam looked really good. If I flew DJI, I would have to trust your judgement and buy the one you recommended but from watching the video, the runcam looked like a winner to me.
@BluntmanOO7
@BluntmanOO7 2 жыл бұрын
compared to analog it looks good but compared to the original air unit and the caddx vista it is trash!
@neale3191
@neale3191 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you made this video. I’m ready to pull my hair out thinking about what camera to get for my conversion from analog to digital. 🤦‍♂️
@creationlabsinc.189
@creationlabsinc.189 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t own a vista or air unit yet RR still has the micro air unit available. The camera has 120fps capabilities
@Rcschim
@Rcschim 2 жыл бұрын
if you pull your hair out - beware of the runcam phoenix HD - 10:21 you see how weird you will look like ;)
@averagereviews3389
@averagereviews3389 2 жыл бұрын
@@creationlabsinc.189 RR = Red Robin ?
@sterlingowens5744
@sterlingowens5744 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx J!
@JammyBFPV
@JammyBFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video very informative I didn’t realise they were all made by dji
@dirxclvck
@dirxclvck Жыл бұрын
Now this is a good review 👍
@timorohde95
@timorohde95 2 жыл бұрын
oh wow after flying for half a year with the nano (urgh) and recently with the polar, i am excited as heck how much of a difference the DJI cam is gonna be.
@que_dijo
@que_dijo Жыл бұрын
now you can! cuz you were talking about the AUO3 that just came out right?
@mikespeedyfpv321
@mikespeedyfpv321 2 жыл бұрын
Very educational great video one love 👊🙏
@GregPless
@GregPless 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MrSmithFPV
@MrSmithFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Caddx Vista looks great and more natural but i really would prefer the RC Phoenix HD. Looks best for me. 👌
@jayzzz1234
@jayzzz1234 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua, can you please do a vertical acceleration test when doing the flight test if possible thanks, great videos really enjoying them.
@Shooter_FPV
@Shooter_FPV 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, as usual. Why is your side yard dug up??
@codyhart4062
@codyhart4062 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@apachesmokemachining6487
@apachesmokemachining6487 2 жыл бұрын
Just letting you know I enjoy your video’s
@DrMacca
@DrMacca 2 жыл бұрын
Diggin' the lava lamp! :)
@Raydio6
@Raydio6 2 жыл бұрын
Color looks good on the phoenix
@rafaelreyesbleakfpv2463
@rafaelreyesbleakfpv2463 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until the Foxxer Apollo arrives 🔥😎
@picknoname3425
@picknoname3425 2 жыл бұрын
Actually you can still buy the orignial air unit, there are still quite a lot of them if you know where to look for.
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can get the runcam phoenix hd hdzero version and do a direct comparison between the two. i think it would be the fairest possible dji vs sharkbyte/hdzero shoot out.
@knarftrakiul3881
@knarftrakiul3881 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh.. I'm looking for something decent ready to fly with dji fpv goggles. Something zippy with decent range. What would you recommend? I'm not a beginner but also not advanced. I have flown 6 chan rc helicopters and cheap quad copters
@CockroachFPV
@CockroachFPV 2 жыл бұрын
When foxxer is going to make cams to I would love that.
@RcReviewsLt
@RcReviewsLt 2 жыл бұрын
Caddx from this moment will make original DJI cameras, or what looks similar to original DJI - but with 120fps! So everything is back to its low latency mode, maybe they could add some polar night colors to original DJI..
@FiddlingwithmyWhistle
@FiddlingwithmyWhistle 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua, I am new to FPV and yes, I have learned something 'everytime' I've watched one of your videos. Thanks I just watched this one on DJI Air Units, and their cameras from Caddx and Runcam. And it got me thinking, there is no HDMI into my DJI Goggles (unless I go HDMI to AV) So my thought is, "why has Caddx or Runcam or someone" not made an adaptor, that replaces the camera and lets the HDMI feed from my PC go into a DJI HD FPV Air Unit Module. so you can have HD in the DJI Goggles from your PC, Wirelessly it's easy to feed av into an analog vtx, can it be that much harder feeding HDMI into a digital vtx someone suggested that a raspberry pi hdmi to csi-2 adapter board would do it. Like $12 to have HDMI from my PC, in my DJI gogggles. someone make it work. PLEASE
@dave3883
@dave3883 Жыл бұрын
That nebula nano is woof..
@bohdanshcherbak6303
@bohdanshcherbak6303 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! you should test OpenHD system, it is DIY but not that difficult.
@Hotwire_RCTrix
@Hotwire_RCTrix 2 жыл бұрын
Through the trees I really liked the nano. Am I imagining this?
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 2 жыл бұрын
Is it true, you can gain extra IPD when ordering clip on prescription lenses?...??????? I would be flying DJI, but for the slight lack in mechanical IPD distance. I need another 3mm approximately...😮😮😮🤔🤔🇬🇧
@Smartatics
@Smartatics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua, what is being prepared in your garden? ;)
@REDROBRCFPV
@REDROBRCFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to upgrade the goggles to the newest version for support for this camera?
@rotormasher
@rotormasher 2 жыл бұрын
No
@marcino.3361
@marcino.3361 2 жыл бұрын
Vista is perfect! I guess I saw on banggood full air unit with caddx vista camera... hmm interesting. I'm planing to jump into HD next year. Hopefully there will be minimum vista available or maybe sth even better :D If not, I'll wait another year.... :D I feel like exchanging analog to sth close to analog but called HD has no seance...
@gabrielfica8536
@gabrielfica8536 Жыл бұрын
As always, is what I Just need to hear
@DopeJohnny
@DopeJohnny 2 жыл бұрын
Will you make a comparision of a caddx nebula nano stock VS glass lens ? I mean... you frequently mention this option...
@scottmerriman8196
@scottmerriman8196 2 жыл бұрын
Was there not a color card shot for the Polar?
@aquilinefpv2592
@aquilinefpv2592 2 жыл бұрын
My gosh the difference in quality 10:20! Sad days, I fell we are going backwards
@chrish1645
@chrish1645 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was pretty crazy.
@MrDjBess
@MrDjBess 2 жыл бұрын
I just get an original DJI air unit - DJI camera, I feel I’m the most lucky fpv pilot in the world ahah ! Happy fly to all ❤️
@MadfishFPV
@MadfishFPV 7 ай бұрын
I learnt something today, I always thought the whole unit was manufactured by each company under license from DJI. I never knew DJI make the air unit or vtx, and it's just the 3rd party manufacturers that just add their camera and antenna onto them
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if they still have any but Newbeedrone got the Caddx AU (micro 120fps) in a few days ago, managed to get one. Edit- still showing in stock.
@kc8302
@kc8302 2 жыл бұрын
What is the highest power output in the market for these DJI VTX? Is it 1 watt? I have not invested into these digital VTX because I fly long range and use an AKK VTX with 3watt power output so I would end up giving up distance for a digital image but very curious to try it, just not with 1watt . I also use a run cam night eagle on another long range quad for night flying so looks like these digital cameras are no good for night flights, not yet at least.
@MustangPilot1
@MustangPilot1 2 жыл бұрын
@JoshuaBardwell This might be a dumb question but does the CaddX Vista and others have DJI command and control like the DJI air unit?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
The functionality of the Air Unit and Vista etc vTX is the same. The only difference is the Air Unit Lite (nee Vista) has only one antenna vs. two and tit does not have on board DVR.
@keylitho
@keylitho 2 жыл бұрын
Caddx Has Vista units on there sight RIGHT NOW..!!
@brendand.2269
@brendand.2269 2 жыл бұрын
So so glad I went nuts and bought 7 vistas and air units when covid hit
@jakeh3144
@jakeh3144 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah especially since they burn out randomly and stop working after minor crashes.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
AU and Vista are generally very very durable. If you're killing them, I'm surprised.
@Rcschim
@Rcschim 2 жыл бұрын
10:21 your skalp looks like a fake clown bold head (missing the vocabulary here ;) Interesting info about the manufacturing of the VTX - that was my guess as well, but I didnt have the background... Now I'm happy that I collected a number of DJI copters over the last 2 years and have a few 120fps cams on them ;) Will you review the DJI osmo action2? Looks like finally we get a session succsessor! yay! greets, Mario
@rctom1
@rctom1 2 жыл бұрын
He made Make up on his scalp , Mario (-:
@TomHerriman
@TomHerriman Жыл бұрын
Why did you not test the Polar Vista in the pattern and FOV test?
@keylitho
@keylitho 2 жыл бұрын
Is that the nebula nano v1 or v2..?
@WX4CB
@WX4CB 2 жыл бұрын
my only issue with those is that the sky appears to be way overblown in all of them. the nebula being the worst of them all, but the ability to not be able to change settings is a deal breaker tbh. why they won't allow you to at least change the basics brightness/contrast etc. is beyond me
@MadfishFPV
@MadfishFPV 7 ай бұрын
You're kidding me right? I thought this was a limitation with just the Wasp. So it's all of Runcam cameras?
@dialaprohq
@dialaprohq 2 жыл бұрын
be nice if cameras upgraded over time vs drop in quality.
@djilly75
@djilly75 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't we buy the camera from the Caddx air unit which is basically the Nebula Pro right?
@JC-qy6cx
@JC-qy6cx 2 жыл бұрын
Chip shortage
@williamkeith2419
@williamkeith2419 2 жыл бұрын
Hey maybe this means we will see a SharkByte camera from Caddix now.
@JaredIanDelapena
@JaredIanDelapena 2 жыл бұрын
Caddx just annouced that the vista + DJI cam is coming back today
@Starkeyfpv
@Starkeyfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Caddx just announced more vista cams coming. Pre-orders are out.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
These aren't new manufacturing as far as I know. What I am hearing is they are returns from manufacturers of BnF quads that are being pushed back into the channel. EDIT: well shit. look at that. facebook.com/groups/728465824251791?multi_permalinks=1314179852347049&hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen
@disco.volante
@disco.volante 2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely happening, Flywoo also offers per-orders on DJI cams and full Vista kits.
@SuphiKaner
@SuphiKaner 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully I don't break or lose my original caddx 120fps camera maybe one day there will be a upgrade not a downgrade
@micsherwood4930
@micsherwood4930 2 жыл бұрын
wait....i just pre-ordered the "Original Caddx Vista with DJI camera" on newbeedrone,this morning. is this not the original you say is not being made anymore?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
It is not being made. But somehow they got them.
@sburnham3
@sburnham3 2 жыл бұрын
What size drone would you need to mount all three cameras on the same quad for identical review. You could also just put them on a stick and get your son to run around the yard ... 😂
@armani007E55
@armani007E55 2 жыл бұрын
JB video is a week old. DJI is back in stock. (well pre order)DJI made announcement on their site. Get it while you can! :)
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
They'll do anything to prove me wrong.
@armani007E55
@armani007E55 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell lol!
@upyopyo
@upyopyo 2 жыл бұрын
Can we exchange vista and air-unit system in general?
@derekec
@derekec 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the Shark Byte prices at $99 and $199 bundle? More like $249 and $349 respectively (October). I was decided but now back to aiming for DJI.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
Still on preorder at RR for $99. But remember that was always a limited-time offer. It was never permanent. rotorriot.com/collections/shark-byte-fpv-drones/products/fat-shark-sharkbyte-rx5
@derekec
@derekec 2 жыл бұрын
Joshua Bardwell Thank you, placed order via your newbee link, since..... I'm a newbie. They're in stock. Hope that still helps you back.
@jensjs3923
@jensjs3923 2 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something here, What is a caddx vista camera? 🙈🤗 Is it meant to be the original DJI cam? Sry if I might have missed something.
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's right. The "vista" is the original DJI cam that came with Air Unit and Vista.
@user-vr1qv6qe7f
@user-vr1qv6qe7f 2 жыл бұрын
And after you make this caddx announced the vista with dji cam is back
@levangugulashvili1296
@levangugulashvili1296 2 жыл бұрын
Joshua's property in liftoff soon will need an update))
@xXRoronoaSoLoXx
@xXRoronoaSoLoXx 2 жыл бұрын
Just a comment to support Joshua Bardwell
@felixtrunz6567
@felixtrunz6567 2 жыл бұрын
Just something to support him😂
@BBFPV
@BBFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried adjusting the image settings and lens focus on the Polar?
@zer001
@zer001 2 жыл бұрын
New tool cabinet?
@eliastzirakis585
@eliastzirakis585 2 жыл бұрын
Is your lens a little dirty?
@Just-A-Guy-Learning
@Just-A-Guy-Learning 2 жыл бұрын
I like this more direct version of you JB. "Dont buy this, get this". Used to be " I'll leave that choice up to you the viewer." It feels more authentic when you make a choice like this. Not to say you werent authentic in the past.
@jayward7536
@jayward7536 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to get the hdzero micro for my fatshark sharkbyte any idea when they will be out
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
They said they are real close. Manufacturing seems to be sorted out and now it's just shipping.
@rctom1
@rctom1 2 жыл бұрын
What´s about the runcam MIPI?
@giocatoresamuele5481
@giocatoresamuele5481 2 жыл бұрын
As long as the situation and this do not spend anything more.
@Joeyzoom
@Joeyzoom 2 жыл бұрын
Did they really call it the Phoneix on the box?
@liukang81
@liukang81 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua can you help me I got some problems with configure on betaflight ?
@Kettenhund75
@Kettenhund75 2 жыл бұрын
Join his discord - we will help you.
@KrotowX
@KrotowX 2 жыл бұрын
So at 9:54 Runcam Link Phoenix HD turned Joshua into older Ken :)
@zefixx6659
@zefixx6659 2 жыл бұрын
Will both of the Air Unit lite‘s work with a Original DJI camera and than activate the Features? Or is it limited insinde the Air Unit lite itself?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
All DJI air unit and air unit lite vTX work with all DJI FOV cameras like Vista Nebula etc.
@zefixx6659
@zefixx6659 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell yes but i Nena the lag of Settings for the camera. Is the problem inside the camera or the VTX Modul? When i connect my DJI cam instead of a Polar cam do i get my Settings + 120fps back?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын
The camera sensor determines if the camera supports 60 fps or not. If you want 120fps you need the original DJI camera; Nebula Pro; or the Caddx Air Unit Micro camera, which is same as Nebula Pro.
@zefixx6659
@zefixx6659 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaBardwell ok thx JB!
@Gereon_
@Gereon_ 2 жыл бұрын
anyone knows when the nebula pro will be back in stock?
@lcarus42
@lcarus42 2 жыл бұрын
Never settle!! Compromise is just losing slowly
@Gosuminer
@Gosuminer 2 жыл бұрын
The oversaturation and red tint on the Runcam is bad and not being able to adjust that makes it not acceptable for me (I don't use a seperate hd camera).
@MrTFlx
@MrTFlx Жыл бұрын
What should you get 130$ runcam phoenix or Nebula pro ?
@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell Жыл бұрын
Nebula Pro imo.
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