Rune Divination Methods : Introduction

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Arith Härger

Arith Härger

Күн бұрын

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@dseelenmagie8811
@dseelenmagie8811 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta respect this man and his knowledge. I love the time he takes to explain his reasoning and factual evidences from which he gathers his understanding. Not just throwing out careless esoteric information, but informing us on the whole of their meanings.
@paintedbird1020
@paintedbird1020 3 жыл бұрын
yup! that's one of the reasons i watch him. other reason: he's part of the solution of stopping the growth of fascism (and the voelkisch is proto-fascist, as well as right-wing populist which is what H was)
@Jame629
@Jame629 3 жыл бұрын
@@paintedbird1020 I was watching a documentary about after the war and how the German public had no idea there were prisoner of war camps .the American media took them around showing them and making them feel blame. We forget how bad the german people had it during those times. And to be treated that way by the American media was awful . I wish this stigma can end . Its easy to see how right wing groups can still exploit this today Germany has been through a lot
@paintedbird1020
@paintedbird1020 3 жыл бұрын
our concepts of "nations" and "borders" enables so much stereotyping, and so much of drawing the line around a group, saying they are the real people, and pushing others out.... based on branding people like items in a store. so much of what we think is objective is really subjective. Objectively there is no such thing as an American or a German or so on - those are social constructs. Not saying whether they are real or not, or whether they are useful or not - I think a lot depends on context. What is most real, though, is that each person is a unique individual, a universe unto themselves. "Every man and woman is a star," Crowley. When I think of nations, my mind goes to borders, and then I think of prisoners and wars. Peace be with you.
@dseelenmagie8811
@dseelenmagie8811 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, not sure what spurred these bulls, lol, but I'll join in, with a humble attitude. I will start by saying, I can agree with the ideas and expressions you both put forth. I also think as an American, who doesn't want a physical wall, I'm torn. Not as an idealist or nationalist but as someone still trying to find true freedom from anyone trying to empose any belief, rather than free discussion and freedom in general. Walls though, have a purpose, Arminius could understand this, in a sense, right? Keeping the wolves from "his people" The problem is all of us "commoners" are being put at odds with each other by corrupt leaders and media. The German people on the whole, have always been human with their own issues, as the rest of the world, we are driven by our leaders division and in some cases our own beliefs. As an ex-Christian, I had a problem following those rules and giving up my freedom of thought that didn't "mesh" with other Christian beliefs. Even so, I had times of disregarding others and their ways because of predisposed teachings and bias. I've since gave those thoughts up for seeking a free life of my own, still not fully away, but working on it. Something I fear I may never truly realize without completely letting go of a modern life. Which even in America, isn't as easy as it is portrayed on TV shows, lol. We may never have a world without borders, or the wealthy/powerful imposing their beliefs and politics on others, no matter what side they fall. In this, we are left to do the best we can, and perhaps that is just standing up on a micro level at every chance we get. At worst, it seems like choosing the lesser of two weevils, lol, movie reference.
@Jame629
@Jame629 3 жыл бұрын
@@dseelenmagie8811 thank you thats given me much to think on actually. And who knows where these KZbin conversations spring from 😅 for me they replace the old conversations I'd have in the bar when I drank .sitting at the bar and all kinds of things would be discussed and hashed over . Its one of our best attributes as people
@prof.andrear.3373
@prof.andrear.3373 Жыл бұрын
So grateful to have come across you and your videos! Your explanations are not only very clear but also detailed. I'm looking forward to watching them all! Thank you!
@megantrish8450
@megantrish8450 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever tapped a video so fast! This made my morning! Super excited to learn more about your interpretation on divination methods, thank you!
@vitoriam.9038
@vitoriam.9038 Жыл бұрын
Lindo trabalho que você faz ensinando e compartilhando seus conhecimentos. Adorei o vídeo ❤
@hipknowsis9568
@hipknowsis9568 3 жыл бұрын
SO looking forward to your new series!!! LOVE your channel!!! YOUR channel is my KZbin PRIORITY and will drop EVERYTHING to see your new uploads!!! Thank you SO much for your TIME, KNOWLEDGE, and HEART. I REALLY appreciate YOU!!!
@brandonemmons4937
@brandonemmons4937 3 жыл бұрын
The eye is looking much better. Less like Odin and more like Arith 😜
@eirincbbunsby305
@eirincbbunsby305 3 жыл бұрын
.... and here I am.... planned to work more in dept with runes.. and here it is... the perfect video...
@aliciaschultz309
@aliciaschultz309 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@spikewillow4552
@spikewillow4552 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing or just what was meant to be..... Thank you brother
@paintedbird1020
@paintedbird1020 3 жыл бұрын
perfect timing is what i was thinking too
@caseythiessen1646
@caseythiessen1646 2 жыл бұрын
Finally finished my 24 week rune study program finally time to explore their use. Thank you good sir Arith for each of your videos.
@Psychedeliccatdad
@Psychedeliccatdad 5 ай бұрын
What books would you recommend?
@ericktemps37
@ericktemps37 3 жыл бұрын
TO AGREE WITH YOUR SACRED KNOWLEDGE I NEVER WANTED TO DABBLE IN RUNES DUE TO MY BACKGROUND BUT I WAS GUIDED BY ANCESTORS TO NOTICE STAR PATTERNS ABOVE ME AND NOTICED SOME DAYS WOULD BE INVERTED AS I GAZED APON THEM FROM ONE DAY TO THE NEXT IN SAME LOCATION, I LOOKED UP SYMBOLS FOUND THE NAME OF ONE WHICH HAPPENED TO BE A RUNE AND FOUND YOUR PAGE AND KNOWLEDGE OF IT AND IVE BEEN GRATEFUL FOR YOUR STUDIES OLD FRIEND HOPE ALL IS WELL!
@lyledeschand863
@lyledeschand863 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your anti- bigotry sentiments... Thanks brother 👍
@johnhyatt6057
@johnhyatt6057 3 жыл бұрын
excellent work Arith. Appreciate y ou sharing your experiences with the Runes! I'm 1/3 through the series now. Jut fell behind. Appreciate your views and work with them. Please keep sharing. !!
@mikebeatty7814
@mikebeatty7814 3 жыл бұрын
Am new to runes. Glad to have to have found someone who has studied the runes from a historical perspective. Am very interested in pre-christian European traditions
@imashtalao2442
@imashtalao2442 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the whole series and your work, for financial reasons I stopped my learning, I have been mediating, studying and practicing things for my life with the runes for three years, thanks to you it is that I ended up on my own in case of not being able to return to my Russian teacher, So I thank you again infinitely that you share your knowledge and historical references and beyond, and above all your own appreciations, I send you many love from Mexico
@paintedbird1020
@paintedbird1020 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what you do. It's more important than most people realize.
@brandonemmons4937
@brandonemmons4937 3 жыл бұрын
Im very excited for this series! Thank you.
@cherylpump3372
@cherylpump3372 3 жыл бұрын
Just acquired my first set of runes..and here you are explaining them to me. Thank you for your knowledge and for sharing it!!!!
@kurtmarten6881
@kurtmarten6881 3 жыл бұрын
Cheryl, Accolades on your first set of runes! It is fortunate indeed the you discovered Arith early on. I recommend his series on rune meanings with the very highest of regard. It represents a well balanced interpretation of intuition and academically sound discernment (not to mention an excellent time-lapse review of Arith’s fine beard. I trust I speak for many when I say, welcome to the runes.
@cherylpump3372
@cherylpump3372 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtmarten6881 I will definitely check out his series. Look forward to the time lapse. And thank you!!!
@erikaaltensee5358
@erikaaltensee5358 3 жыл бұрын
💜 I admire how you have made this information accessible to all and the many ways you do this both through modernity and simplicity. Great intro, and always new learning! Thank you.
@ScarlettRobin
@ScarlettRobin 3 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to this. Also, I never knew you had a deviantart, you have some absolutely beautiful artwork you have created. It is lovely.
@TheNinjaFromNuevo
@TheNinjaFromNuevo 3 жыл бұрын
I am really looking forward to this. As a person who has studied Tarot, Alchemy, and Hermetic Qabbalism I have seen the same "copy and paste" aspect of rune divination spreads. The energy signature that I personally perceive from the runes seems very different, so I have been searching for inspiration and guidance on more effective ways of using the runes for divination. Thank you for being a reputable source, Arith!
@MysticHeather
@MysticHeather 3 жыл бұрын
Everything you said
@congamike1
@congamike1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking about the blank rune. And, thank you for this video and series. You are one of the few people I refer to as a reference.
@AMMO1Sarge
@AMMO1Sarge Жыл бұрын
First off, I very much appreciate your videos, they are really helping me understand a great many things. I am curious about your thoughts on there being no evidence that the runes were used in bronze and iron age pre christian Scandinavia, taking into consideration the account of Tacitus in his Germania 10 regarding the casting of lots. If not the runes what do you suppose he was referring to?
@garychynne1377
@garychynne1377 3 жыл бұрын
sometimes when walking the walk looking up to see the moon through branches of the trees i know all i need to know of mother natures breeze. thank yew arith
@rosej4012
@rosej4012 2 жыл бұрын
I am very excited to have found this channel. You are the first one who has not made me feel like a fraud for not doing proper rituals before casting. You present things in such a clear, logical manner that makes it easy to learn and grow. I will be hunting down the rest of your videos now. Thank you!
@jenniferfrykman390
@jenniferfrykman390 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about the sending of an incomplete message. I do wonder what it means to me that I am Swedish as opposed to another heritage. I long to get a sense of authentic Norse spitituality. I keep thinking that it will come if I remain steadfast and keep my heart open. Thanks Arith, I love your deep yet conversational manner online! Jenn Frykman
@offgridishland
@offgridishland 3 жыл бұрын
I have to thank you IMMENSELY for this incredible video! I am 51 now, but when I was 19, freshly out of Christianity, I went looking for spiritual and divination tools, and had the grand misfortune of purchasing a book by Edred Thorrson, who is actually Stephen Flowers! I could not have put this together without this video! All these years, I thought I was "bad at casting runes", and I realize now that it was because 1) I was getting flagrantly incorrect information and 2) it was based in Tarot, a medium I do not excel at (I am MUCH better with Oracle cards and/or a pendulum). I always got an extremely uneasy feeling every time I used Runes, and now it all makes so much sense! At 50, I purchased a new set of Runes, and I also bought The Icelandic Book of Futhark after watching your video book review on it. I've watched every single video you've made on the Runes and Runology, and look SO forward to getting into divination with them again. Now that I've learned so much from you and it all finally "clicks", I'm ready to try again. Now I think I'm going to go try to find your old blog posts. I'm too excited to wait!
@gustavoriosurbano2171
@gustavoriosurbano2171 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, we are waiting already! cheers from Colombia.
@Razurwulf
@Razurwulf 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to see this. Greetings from a fellow animist and vegan. :-) I've so enjoyed your work, in its various forms, over the years. What a wonderful contribution you've made to my life's journey, and my personal development. Many thanks!
@paintedbird1020
@paintedbird1020 3 жыл бұрын
Garsh almighty lol - why, just the other day I was looking for Arith's divination video, and voila! fresh off the press. i can even smell the freshness of this video. and i didn't even watch it yet (still on the ad). well, in any case, i hope just that i made a comment here that puts the video higher up in the algorithms' priorities
@PandorasExecutioner
@PandorasExecutioner 3 жыл бұрын
So excited for this series to continue. I just finished listening to your entire rune series yesterday. I think i love your interpretations most. I appreciate that you try to get close to its pagan roots, keeping its context as much as possible while also keeping it relevant for modern times.
@Joe9923pagan
@Joe9923pagan 2 жыл бұрын
As a creator and a teacher u have my trust and respect thank you for the knowledge skal
@annalisalundberg4561
@annalisalundberg4561 3 жыл бұрын
Yayyyy!!! And so it starts!!! You were the one that helped me understanding that I was closer to animism than any other religion and/or philosophy, so I am truly in love with all you rune series and your approach (another reason why I owe you a beer...never come to Rome, or I'll get you rascally drunk, hehe!), and I've bought myself a notebook, so I can start taking notes from all your rune videos, both the esoterical and the historical ones, and then write them down in an organic way. If it'll work, I'll probably ask you for your post address, so I can send you the results, and if it gets your approval, feel free to share it as you wish 😊 anyway, great job, tack så hjärtligt mycket!!!
@kevinkelly9033
@kevinkelly9033 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! So looking forward to the videos .
@curtismiller268
@curtismiller268 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing enjoyed listening, looking forward to your series on rune divination. 🙏✌️
@davidenochs601
@davidenochs601 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, looking forward to what is next. Thank you my friend
@NannerPuddin144
@NannerPuddin144 11 ай бұрын
I just had an accidental rune reading. I decided to get into runes this year basically to connect with my spiritual ancestry. My mother practiced Wiccan and my dad was Swedish....combine those two and here we are. I was just getting to know my runes for the first time today. I thought I'd put them all away but little Othala had hidden away and then dropped down into my left shoe when I got up. Othala represents ancestry and inheritance both physical and spiritual. I wanted to connect spiritually with my ancestors and my number one worry at the moment is how to hold on to the land and home I've inherited. On top of that, the left foot/shoe represents spiritual awakening, growth, and understanding. I feel like this was a greeting from an ancestor or possibly even the spirit of my mother ready to guide me on this new journey. I'm not as alone in this world as I thought I was. =)
@paultodd7806
@paultodd7806 3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this👍
@MysticHeather
@MysticHeather 3 жыл бұрын
Very much looking forward to these videos arith!
@gnostic268
@gnostic268 3 жыл бұрын
The information you said about the tarot is the first time I've heard it explained that way. It makes a lot of sense and probably why I've never been comfortable with reading tarot cards. I don't practice divination with runes either but enjoy learning about them. I prefer other methods and the latest thing is reading charms so there is plenty of divination alternatives. :) Thank you
@kurtmarten6881
@kurtmarten6881 3 жыл бұрын
As ever, an outstanding lesson. Here is to another three-year series! I eagerly await your insights and the typically fascinating input of this community. In the year or so since adopting runes as a divination method (after decades of other sources), it seems struck me, for my use at any rate, they are meant to be cast as one might lots or bones rather than drawn and placed like cards. The means and ways of this are still nascent and developing. I look forward to exploring methodology with you all.
@stuartbailey1126
@stuartbailey1126 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Arith, for all that you do!
@mrwebbofficial
@mrwebbofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Tarot Divination has no historical basis either and is also a modern invention. I’ve been studying and using the Tarot for many years and even though it has no historical basis in divination or Magick, it still works. I think belief is the tool in any system. Put enough of your own energy into it and it will produce results.
@byssabyss
@byssabyss 3 жыл бұрын
Various playing cards, including Tarot cards were adopted as divination tools by Romani, aka "Gypsies" a few hundred years after the first Tarotchi cards were created. So Tarot cards have in fact been used in this way for several hundred years now.
@mrwebbofficial
@mrwebbofficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@byssabyss I’ve heard that but I haven’t seen any real evidence to back up that claim. I hope it’s true but if it is I’d like to see the evidence.
@GrasslandsG81
@GrasslandsG81 3 жыл бұрын
"Belief is a tool" has been one of the foundations of my journey for the last two decades now. That - and knowing what works for you, the practitioner - were two main components of my Chaos Magick days. Even though I have now settled into a path that is much less eclectic than back then, I still take the "scientific method" approach to my practice. ...if it works, keep it; if it doesn't, discard it...
@byssabyss
@byssabyss 3 жыл бұрын
If you'd like some evidence with citations, it would probably take about 5 minutes.
@byssabyss
@byssabyss 3 жыл бұрын
@Gabe Webb here you go, this article has proper citations: www.wopc.co.uk/tarot/divination/
@monicamiller2838
@monicamiller2838 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Loved this video. Looking forward to more.
@Nickclarkeparanormal
@Nickclarkeparanormal 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Arith ... first of all thank you so much for the rune videos. I have been studying them for 8 yrs. then i came across your videos, from which i learned more about each rune than from any other source.Just a quick question. Do you think it is necessary to use the inverted rune during a reading ? I feel that there are enough runes that can be paired to change the meaning of the rune in the reading without using the inverted method. it is something that i have been thinking about now for some time .... what are your thoughts on this ? Thank you again for sharing your knowledge...
@arizonaraven419
@arizonaraven419 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Arith. Appreciate your gnosis.
@maevelarsen9788
@maevelarsen9788 3 жыл бұрын
Loving all the information. Thank you!
@coranova
@coranova 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on finishing your last Rune series!!!!🎉
@pascal9413
@pascal9413 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to it! Thank you Arith
@morriganwitch
@morriganwitch 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you a subject I know very little about xxx
@WiseFool888
@WiseFool888 3 жыл бұрын
Finally what a journey
@amandaanderson6632
@amandaanderson6632 Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to have found you. Thank you for being 🪄
@yescabrita
@yescabrita 3 жыл бұрын
I Loved the "Obrigado por hoje" at the end of the video!!! It was very good pronunciation with almost no accent (for Brazilian Portuguese). Tak for idag :)
@roflswamp6
@roflswamp6 3 жыл бұрын
I am so blessed to have access to this i am genuinely thankful when i was young i was underassive amounts of drugs and was very very drawn to the runes specifically algiz rune then mannaz then othala and i cannot explain why as i am Mexican and into other forms of spirituality as well but revere sweden and finland very very much idk lifes weird
@shanehiggs1779
@shanehiggs1779 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to it!
@sarahgilbert8036
@sarahgilbert8036 3 жыл бұрын
I don't personally use inverted meanings. The rune has a positive meaning with an "but, beware" sidenote; or is a warning in itself, but with a "however.." sidenote. I prefer seeing it in relation to the other runes in a draw, and how they fit with my question or situation. Sorry, I'm probably getting ahead of the video and into the next 😁😉
@anthonyhudson3158
@anthonyhudson3158 3 жыл бұрын
Very excited about this 🙂
@savai646
@savai646 3 жыл бұрын
I rly do love listening to these vids. Detailed occult/pagan content delights me and these have a certain oaky timber to them, ya know? Be well.
@elainemblakely282
@elainemblakely282 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the Texas Gulf Coast, USA. Will you be including the Northumbrian Runes?
@DarkF00L
@DarkF00L 3 жыл бұрын
Ah! I left a comment on one of your other videos asking for your thoughts on Stephen E. Flowers. Having made my way to this video, now I know. 👍
@tessjess1
@tessjess1 3 жыл бұрын
Love your teachings .....thank you!
@joaquimteixeira8297
@joaquimteixeira8297 3 жыл бұрын
...you really are a well of knowledge 💯
@lareddewyrd
@lareddewyrd 3 жыл бұрын
👁️🤍 pure magic
@stewartthomas2642
@stewartthomas2642 3 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff kick on love it
@williamthomas1844
@williamthomas1844 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos and honestly I have a question being it has sounded like runes are just the children of runic staves and staves were used for magic and divination wouldn't it mean they technically were used for divination purposes? Just in a different format
@jillianmcclennan576
@jillianmcclennan576 3 жыл бұрын
I like to use the blank rune as a pointer to pay more attention to the previous rune
@renataperosa4273
@renataperosa4273 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is a treasure, thank you! :>
@stefka9156
@stefka9156 5 ай бұрын
TBH Tacitus described how germanic people did divination using "signs carved in pieces of wood from fruitful trees", so we don't know if they were runes nor how they read them....but they did use divination
@camillelieberman129
@camillelieberman129 Жыл бұрын
Hello Arith, love your videos. I wanted to get your opinion on rune astrology? I haven’t heard you mention this as of yet in any videos I have watched so far. Thanks
@nuclearmaga9694
@nuclearmaga9694 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your work and feel enlightened by it. I've read a few of Stephen Flowers books and also enriched by these. You've mentioned bigotry associated with his work.... I really don't see that as far as his work is concerned.... maybe something else associated with that you find objectionable. He disavowed the Nazi movement and saw it, as I recall , a building on and subversion of the German youth movement and that it really set back runic knowledge and everything associated with runes and restoring other nordic traditions a great deal.
@wren1019
@wren1019 3 жыл бұрын
i don't use runes and use tarot for personal insights (advice) only. doesn't matter. i'm always interested in what you have to say.
@causetteladouceur6363
@causetteladouceur6363 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, this is appreciate.
@jenniferfrykman390
@jenniferfrykman390 2 жыл бұрын
Will you broadcast your runes series again? Thankyou! Jenn Frykman, Oregon USA
@earospace7814
@earospace7814 Жыл бұрын
Right on spot arith💪😊
@Mina-jy8kd
@Mina-jy8kd 3 жыл бұрын
Please forgive me if this has been answered already… there are so many comments. I’m so curious what Arith thinks of the “Rune-guild” founded in 1980 Edred Thorsson. Thank you kindly.
@ArithHärger
@ArithHärger 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there. This video I have done may help answer that question, have a great day! : kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGfUd4apf758eqs
@ninetales6485
@ninetales6485 3 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree about Stephen Flowers when it comes to his Runes, the animism is there but it must be taken into account as a whole. Unfortunately there is the late 19th and early 20th centuries influence on his system too, especially from Guido von List. We have to take an account at this time did not have to the archaeological and anthropological information that we have now, so their ideas were formulated on what they knew and what they could find. Much of their Rune work it's still viable but it just has to be sifted through in order to find it's gold nuggets. Whether we like these people or not ( which we honestly all know they were racist) to not give credit for what work they did would injure the idea of the Runes and throw away the foundation that they gave. It takes about little intelligence to remove their racism from the system and dig into the animism that is rich inside of it but first one must get over themselves and our own bias towards others and their wrongs. The Northern Tradition, as I have come to call it, as Arith says has evolved and must evolve in order to keep current with the times. The ugly and the beautiful parts of the past tell us where our tradition has come from and informs us where it's going. But let's be honest no two practicing magicians are going to agree on much of anything once they have gained access to their own gnosis. So while animism is that the foundations of the Northern Tradition it is broad enough and deep enough to absorb everything and every viewpoint within its mantle. Starting in an animistic worldview does not mean that an entire system is supposed to stay in it or it does not mean it's supposed to abandon it either. Paradigms like animism and dualism are not in conflict but are simply modes of consciousness that the enterprising magician or Vitki learns to navigate in order to work their will upon the world. Helsa! Refr Godhi
@Toastandtea682
@Toastandtea682 3 жыл бұрын
Is there enough time alive to learn true magik
@Sheepdog1314
@Sheepdog1314 3 жыл бұрын
excellent - thank you
@Karina-vw8qx
@Karina-vw8qx 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait!
@jimmason3rd
@jimmason3rd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, didn't Tacitus record Germanic divination methods? I read what he wrote, though he didn't mention what the Germanic symbols were, it seems highly unlikely they were anything but runes.
@jimmason3rd
@jimmason3rd 3 жыл бұрын
BTW, I'm a new Patreon supporter. This is the only way I know how to ask questions, presently.
@ArithHärger
@ArithHärger 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there! Indeed, Tacitus recorded about a method of divination used by Continental Germanic peoples - the casting of lots with symbols (marks) on them. It is not know what type of symbols these were and it's unlikely they were runes for two main reasons: (1) by the time Tacitus recorded this, the "Runes" (as Latin script) had not yet been introduced to Germanic peoples, therefore Germanic peoples had not yet developed Runes from the Latin Script; (2) In later sources Romans descriped the runes as "Greek Alphabet", so if those were runes Tacitus would have at least made a comparison with the Greek characters. It was in the 19th century that some scholars mentined that these symbols engraved on the lots were runes, because there was still a great confusion between Continental Germanic peoples and Scandinavians, and a confusions concerning historical periods such as Germanic Iron Age and Scandinavian Early Middle Ages/Viking Period. The first Germanic peoples to use the Runes were the Danes, who had had a long time-period of contact through trading with Southern Europe, mainly Romans, during the Iron Age, so the Danes picked up the Latin script and used it, creating the first Runes. Only during the Viking Period the Runes start to have distinctive forms to fit into Old Norse language and thus some of the symbols become quite different than the ones in the Latin script. Since it is unlikely that these were runes, some scholars have pointed out that these Germanic symbols Tacitus speaks about may have been the Ogham. However, the Ogham system did not exist yet by the time Tacitus describes those symbols/marks. The great problem here is that since the seventeenth century, there has been a linguistic, cultural and mythological confusion between Celts, Old Germans and Norse. One that still persists is that the oghamic writing of the populations of the British Isles would be a form of the runic alphabet. Although some studies point to the influence of runes and Greek writing on the initial formation of Ogham, most epigraphists consider Latin the main model, the result of the contact of British populations with Roman monuments. There are a few archaeological examples of runic inscriptions that coexist with Ogamic writing on the same monument, but were made at different times and by different authors, all after the 8th century CE. But there are also a few examples of runic and ogamic inscriptions, sculpted by the same person, as in the inscription of Killaloe, in Ireland, dating to the 11th century CE. The Runes are older than the Ogham. Ogham is in fact an Early Medieval alphabet, primary to write the archaic Irish language, which was in use more or less between the 4th to 6th centuries CE (mostly of onomastic records), since the contact with Latin; (also used between the 6th to 9th centuries, the so called "scholastic ogham" which after the period of Christianization it becomes eminently funerary-related). So the marks Tacitus speaks about were definitely neither the Ogham nor the Runes. These marks were probably just specific notches, single lines or lines of 2 and 3, maybe even crosses in form of "X". These marks were probably to give a "number" or to differentiate between lots.
@jimmason3rd
@jimmason3rd 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArithHärger thank you, that makes sense. And, thank you for your service. It's outstanding to be able to listen to your lectures on Norse Paganism and Runes without having to attend a University. Thank you for the opportunity to be part of your class as a supporter on Patreon.
@jimmason3rd
@jimmason3rd 2 жыл бұрын
@Arith Härger how do you know they couldn't have been Runes? Sorry to feel the need to challenge this. You are the archeologist, I am not. I lean on your expertise.
@BC-rq5jl
@BC-rq5jl 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Arith, I recently became interested in runes, and I like your series about runes. But, if all this was made up relatively recently, how do you explain that divination with runes works, as you said, at least for you?
@AntonSlavik
@AntonSlavik 3 жыл бұрын
btw, I wouldn't call Tarot modern. The official history of the tarot ignores historical evidences that date is back to pagan times. But currently, yes, it is Abrahamic. Even though the numbering and suit system may come from China.
@PureJoyTarot
@PureJoyTarot 2 жыл бұрын
Its like saying tarot is for just one group ..... but if you use analogy then only televisions can be used by Germans or Spanish, but everyone uses a television so therefore everyone can use all these esoteric systems ie tarot , runes etc
@markedwards9247
@markedwards9247 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting presentation Arith. You may know that my research is very similar, and although we do not always see eye to eye, I appreciate your diagnosis. The runic format such as that used in your thumbnail, is important, although misunderstood, so I will try and explain a different point of view. It is important to understand that Rune users were of one peoples. Norse, Celts, Pagans, that were seperated through time. We are all "children of The Aesir", or in modern terminology "Aryans". Historians have absolutely perverted the origin of this term, as they have perverted most of the culture. Which is where I come to Runes. Runic was very widespread. It certainly should not be associated with a singularly Norse product. The earliest runic carvings are in fact in Portugal. Specifically in Celtic Portugal. It is also closely associated with the "secret writings" of The Pheonicians. The subframe of the runic annotations displayed in your thumbnail has been passed down, altered and misinterpreted, as with most of the other cultural remnants that survive. So, let's try transferring runic "tongue" on to what we call today a musical staff. And yes, the use of the term "staff" as connected with a Druidic implement is no accident. The Druids imprinted their famous oak staffs with runes ! Now let's introduce a few questions that you may wish to contemplate : 1) Is music a language ? Can it instigate emotions, feelings, messages, concepts, far more effectively than words alone ? Do you have a favourite piece of music ? Why do you like that piece more than any other ? Does it "speak" to you ? 2) Are you aware that almost all prehistoric relics have a frequency element ? The type of Blue stones at Stonehenge were also used as the only material able to effectively process church bells ? Many of the remining megaliths across Celtic and Norse Europe retain there acoustic properties. If you strike them they emit a specific frequency. What is that all about ? 3) One of the few things that we know about our ancient heritage is that the priest class (Druids) were known for chanting, or singing recitations. This type of acoustic, or frequency element of worship has been passed down, transformed to our era. Gregorian chanting, church hymns, church bells, and the acoustic properties of our early places of Christian worship must have some religious significance, just as the propensity of building Christain places of worship on the same sites as those held sacred by pagans. There is little doubt that acoustics hold a very important, although broadly unrecognised, function in our theology. As a community, we sing to God. 4) Is it possible that runic is a language, but not in terms that we think of language. Just as music is a language, but not in terms of what we refer to as language. Runic is a language, but what we might refer to as an emotional language. Music invokes emotions. Music can invoke powerful emotions, even to accompany soldiers into battle ! It can also invoke great excitement, anger, peace, tranquility, joy, celebration, sadness. It enhances spoken tongue across the spectrum of languages. The messages of song are far more emotionally powerful than the written poem. 5) I do not believe that runes were a form of communication between people at all. It is a form of communication between people and dieties. A type of communication of acoustics, or more precisely frequency. Therefore I propose that runes are a written form of notes. They cannot be spoken, but they can be sung, or chanted. The words used are irrationally irrelevant. If the arrangement of the notes is not correct, it doesn't "sound right". I would like to provide an example, if Arith allows. You (probably) will not understand what is being sung, but that is not the point, and does not effect how you feel emotionally about the composition. Can you imagine the communities coming together to sing around our ancient henges and monuments ? Listen to the wizards apprentice sing. I wonder whether the angels will sing back to them ? kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGXHeYiQrK1rjJY&ab_channel=treblechoir99 6) Finally, I would like to propose to bring it altogether, to understand what runes and its implications are all about by viewing 2 more videos. One of modern and the other of very ancient origins. I rest my case. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYvNaJqLfrRgaM0&ab_channel=VincentV.C. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpionoaYZch-eMk&ab_channel=UNESCO
@tomdavies241
@tomdavies241 3 жыл бұрын
i really enjoy the lectures. you play a okay guitar to bro.
@spirittokens6762
@spirittokens6762 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the content that you put out from all the way here in Sydney X Was I wrong in thinking that you mentioned in a previous video that runes weren’t meant to be used as divination tools Historically? I’ve listen to so many videos that I might have gotten a bit muddled up Warmly, Shell
@spirittokens6762
@spirittokens6762 3 жыл бұрын
LOL you answered my question sorry
@labruja4519
@labruja4519 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, can someone help me with this question? I am new to the runes and divination. How does divination work? When you think about your question and then draw runes, your thinking or intention can influence what runes are drawn (this has been scientifically proven). If you draw your runes then think of your question, you can still formulate meaning from the runes you draw given any question based on your circumstance. What, then, is divination? Is it the energy/influence of your intention over the outcome OR your ability to draw insight/meaning in a way that has not occurred to you previously? Or is it some unknown energy that the symbols draw in to assist you? Thank you so very much for your insight.
@tessjess1
@tessjess1 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a book on your interpretation of the runes ?
@EricHeid
@EricHeid 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't get into Tacitus' writings about the early Germanic tribes casting lots via carved fruit tree branches. Also the ancient Roman pagans use of sortes
@ArithHärger
@ArithHärger 3 жыл бұрын
I did, on others videos, some of which suggested in this very video. Didn't think I should repeat myself all over again concerning that on this video.
@AndrewMaksym
@AndrewMaksym 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's kinda what I disagreed with people on and though was "new age" the use of runes for divination. Just doesn't feel right. Legends say we're supposed to use them on weapons. over the doorway, painted or carved on tree bark.
@gozlukluhatun5535
@gozlukluhatun5535 3 жыл бұрын
I Wonder if we make a protection for runes stav formule, which colour Pen we have to use, black or Red please give me information
@ChristyWilkinson
@ChristyWilkinson 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video as always, thank you! There is a book by Joe Hill I think which has also been made into a TV series called NOS4A2 in which a character uses scrabble game tiles for divination. Lol anyone could if they wanted, couldn't they? Runes, Scrabble tiles, bones, tea leaves, etc. Do what works for you is my motto & isn't it fun to have so much flexibility?
@kurtmarten6881
@kurtmarten6881 3 жыл бұрын
Well noted and well said. I confess I once gave a mini-lecture to a local pagan group on divination where I had three members run out and gather 3 random pieces of ground detritus each and proceeded to do an on the spot divination with small rocks, twigs and assorted bits of garbage. It is tough to look sagely when saying, “Hmmmmn I see that pencil here crosses bottlecap and post-it scrap”, but it worked. In short, keep rocking your fun & flexibility!
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 3 жыл бұрын
My introduction to the runes dates to the late 80s when I got hold of a copy of the book by Ralph Blum. I learned today that lobotomy was invented by a Potuguese doctor, how shameful, still I would rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy. Thinking of it when I see Mr T maybe he had a lobotomy on one of his visits to Portugal?
@shanesorensen7878
@shanesorensen7878 3 жыл бұрын
Where exactly did the modern divination system of runes originate.
@soSo-ml8dv
@soSo-ml8dv 3 жыл бұрын
Des artefacts très anciens confirment l'utilisation des runes en guérison donc il n'est pas exclu du tout qu'elles n'aient pas été utilisées en divination. L'un et l'autre étant intrinsèquement liés.
@brandonheuberger187
@brandonheuberger187 3 жыл бұрын
"I hate bigotry" this line gets the video a like from me :)
@PandorasExecutioner
@PandorasExecutioner 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, you dont have to do this if it's extra work, but it'd be really helpful to include links in the description to your other videos that you reference. I had a bit of trouble figuring out which of your vids was about shapeshifters. I'll have to look again
@soldiers3-The-Ancient-Ones
@soldiers3-The-Ancient-Ones 2 жыл бұрын
Vindicated arith sound be at the end of your writing ✍️ 😂
@inlesinlet
@inlesinlet Жыл бұрын
(I hope you'll someday collect your personal thoughts, and knowledge, about the runes in a book. I am saying this in a parenthesis whisper because I don't want you to feel pressured. It's just a wish of mine.)
@PureJoyTarot
@PureJoyTarot 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know when you sit there it looks like the runes Tiwaz and Isa are made out of the wood framework...
@jenniferfrykman390
@jenniferfrykman390 2 жыл бұрын
The northern mindset. I find myself wondering what being Swedish means. Our family came to the US in the 1890s from v
@Hanna_Hoh
@Hanna_Hoh 3 жыл бұрын
You are the father of the way we all assign meaning to the runes????
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