Running and Gunning with Staccato XC | Staccato P | Staccato CS

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@TREXTraining
@TREXTraining Күн бұрын
WHERE ARE THE HITS?!?
@gideonwilz3257
@gideonwilz3257 Күн бұрын
Trex commenting on Trex made me laugh a little
@xxxlonewolf49
@xxxlonewolf49 Күн бұрын
The hits are to the bank account.
@ThomasSimmons-j9l
@ThomasSimmons-j9l Күн бұрын
You got to pay to see them
@tpcleaning640
@tpcleaning640 Күн бұрын
What about the feet pics? I mean shot times.
@chupachuuups706
@chupachuuups706 Күн бұрын
Liking your own comments is worse than speeding up the footage, Lucas.
@timmyjackson8859
@timmyjackson8859 Күн бұрын
Atleast now we know Lucas is not a FED he handled that sloped rooftop perfectly
@xxxlonewolf49
@xxxlonewolf49 Күн бұрын
Fed upgrade, fed 2.1
@oldshawbones
@oldshawbones Күн бұрын
🤣🤣
@Gnolomweb
@Gnolomweb 15 сағат бұрын
I know this is a joke -- but we all know that C-word FED was lying, right?
@DominicZelenak
@DominicZelenak Күн бұрын
Tennessee's green sunset is beautiful this time of year.
@hadassahknight1149
@hadassahknight1149 Күн бұрын
When you drive to Kentucky, everything turns blue and bright. Literally at the border.
@mikerobinson8734
@mikerobinson8734 Күн бұрын
@@hadassahknight1149 I think he’s referring to the overwhelming green filter trex uses in all their videos.
@hadassahknight1149
@hadassahknight1149 Күн бұрын
@@mikerobinson8734 I know. (Things don’t turn blue and bright when you drive into Kentucky….)
@James_Edward59
@James_Edward59 17 сағат бұрын
lol I agree, it is a bit much, natural looks so much better.
@NamelyssActual
@NamelyssActual Күн бұрын
I'm cuddled up with my C2 watching this, telling it that everything will be okay, while simultaneously holding hands with my M&P 2.0 behind it's back lmao
@ericjuarez5940
@ericjuarez5940 Күн бұрын
I find it interesting how many people who own staccatos ALSO own a 2.0 🤣
@NamelyssActual
@NamelyssActual Күн бұрын
@@ericjuarez5940 I love the 2.0, super under-rated factory trigger in my opinion, and mine is the original 2.0 hinged trigger lol
@ericjuarez5940
@ericjuarez5940 Күн бұрын
@@NamelyssActualI enjoy shooting mine it will take any ammo I feed it ! im just not a fan of the trigger tbh, feel like there’s too much travel as well as it being curved compared to my CS or Glock
@NamelyssActual
@NamelyssActual Күн бұрын
@@ericjuarez5940 I will agree that there’s a bit more travel than I’d like, but the break on mine is SUPER crisp, which is why I like it so much.
@roccilamantia1344
@roccilamantia1344 Күн бұрын
Fear not. The 2.0 will be there dudes.
@TREXARMORY
@TREXARMORY Күн бұрын
great… now I have to fix that Staccato P.
@Humonic
@Humonic Күн бұрын
😂
@charleshoggard3034
@charleshoggard3034 Күн бұрын
It’s most likely the recoil spring. Especially with a high round count like that gun has.
@cylefischer1473
@cylefischer1473 Күн бұрын
Extractor tension needs to be adjusted, very common on 1911 and 2011s with internal extractor. Also the channel the extractor is in will get gummed up and needs to be cleaned every few thousand rounds.
@True_Patriotx
@True_Patriotx Күн бұрын
I would look at the ejector. It is most likely bent upwards from over seating magazines on a locked back slide. The Staccato G3 20 rounder mags prevent this with their base pads. However the 27 rounders and the Prodigy mags can over seat and contact the ejector.
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 Күн бұрын
All I’m hearing is, “these guns that cost as much as 5-8 Glocks are super finicky.”😂
@Oldylocks
@Oldylocks Күн бұрын
Ohhh boy I’ve been waiting for your opinions on this lol. For anyone looking to buy or simply just shit on these guns cause thats what people do, heres my worthless take: I grew up on Glocks, carried them for a few years. Started getting into customizing things as I shot more and 6 years later I own all three of these Staccatos. Got tired of customizing Glocks into “trashy” guns, so Staccatos became the “buy once cry once” guns. Eventually became my carry gun. These guns have a learning curve. They don’t shoot themselves and they require maintenance- don’t buy one if you are going to compare it to a Glock. I keep round counts on all three XC- 4,972rds S&B 115gr, 11mo P- 2,100rds S&B 115gr, 1yr 9mo CS- 986rds S&B and Hornady, 1 yr No shit, I’ve never had a failure to extract, failure to feed, or light strike. I clean these every 500rds or so, but I wouldn’t be worried if I exceeded that in a day. I clean all my pistols when I’m done with the range. Now, you are already seething 😂 “a Glock wont need to be cleaned ever”. And you are right, don’t buy one if thats an issue for you. “Oh you’ve never had a malfunction? Bullshit.” I only use Staccato mags, my only bulk ammo option is S&B and 2011s are pretty good about light strikes. Do NOT buy one of these if you are looking for the most reliable gun in your fantasy of saving the world from alien invasions or Red Dawn. Do NOT buy one if you love everything about your current gun and not looking to change anything. Buy one if you have the money, okay with learning the maintenance and behavior of the gun, and if you are already a good shooter and looking to buy a very SLIGHT edge. It’s not buying skill, but if it can compliment you then buy it. I got into these for the trigger pull, the thumb safety, and the recoil.
@Neighborhoodtactics
@Neighborhoodtactics Күн бұрын
Preach 🗣️
@danielsmith5046
@danielsmith5046 Күн бұрын
My experience has been nearly identical to yours. Clean every 500 or so and no problems. I just wipe it down with a paper towel and oil it and my P and CS have been very solid. I would venture to say the CS would be even more reliable considering the external extractor and redesigned magazine.
@chap23305
@chap23305 Күн бұрын
A man of wisdom.
@Lynsey-wh2jl
@Lynsey-wh2jl 13 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately I subscribe to a "combat" handgun. That costs 5k, and doesn't chew through everything is nothing more than high priced junk. Kinda like 3k glocks. It's a shame too, because I really, really wanted to buy 1.
@Knight_of_the_Old_Code
@Knight_of_the_Old_Code 57 минут бұрын
@Oldylocks Effin' A, my friend. I, too, carried a Glock for many years, and I now have been carrying a CS for the past year (almost). I absolutely love it. Very well said. I get so tired of seeing all these other people putting down those who buy these, calling them "elitists," etc. If someone wants to buy a Hi-Point, I might suggest a different platform, but at the end of the day, who am I to tell them or chastise them for what they want to carry? So long as they train and become proficient with their weapon of choice. And don't even get me started on all of the comments about Staccatos not being drop safe...
@guitarist4life1000
@guitarist4life1000 Күн бұрын
Here to say that I’ve put 2k rounds of S&B through my model P in the last 2 months. 1k of which was with no cleaning, but added lube every 250 rounds. Never had a problem with new STI and MBX mags.
@joeditz48
@joeditz48 Күн бұрын
Lube every ~15 mags? That seems like a lot
@redneckbunniithefirst410
@redneckbunniithefirst410 Күн бұрын
I have a C2 and P and have never had issues until it came time to replace the recoil spring. I have had issues with extreme budget ammo but no more issues than anything else. I clean semi regularly but I knew that getting into this and I also keep all my tools in good condition because I like to keep my stuff squared away.
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 Күн бұрын
​@@joeditz48250rds per range session is pretty reasonable, and lubing a gun that likes to be wet isn't a big ask. Takes you a few seconds and you're good to go. As for whether you have to lube them, there's plenty of videos showing people going well beyond that, but that doesn't mean I'm going to give someone shit for a drop or two after a range session.
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 Күн бұрын
​@@redneckbunniithefirst410There's documented cases of these guns running without cleaning and just the occasional dose of lube. My prodigy personally sees a cleaning every 1000, but that's just because it starts to get disgusting.
@Ben2k109
@Ben2k109 Күн бұрын
@@joeditz48a small squirt of lube and maintenance seems like a lot to you?
@True_Patriotx
@True_Patriotx Күн бұрын
I carried a C2 for 3 years and trained with it a lot. Such an awesome gun. I just switched to the CS and the 2024 C for carry and they are even more awesome. Really great guns. I think if you could only have one the 2024 C is the same size as a G19 or with the full-size grip the G45 and is really a do it all 2011 pistol. With a TLR7 HLX with its 1000 lumens that is the ideal concealed carry pistol. A one and done do everything pistol.
@PrussianPushma
@PrussianPushma Күн бұрын
If you drop it the guide rod will break
@colbyjwise
@colbyjwise Күн бұрын
Garand thumb did a drop test with this platform. Round fired almost every time. I would never carry such a sketchy firearm for my daily.
@Baj4936
@Baj4936 11 сағат бұрын
⁠@@colbyjwisethis isn’t a new concept. It’s the same with every 70 series 1911 out there. People have been carrying those for years without issue.
@Mrjohnnymoo1
@Mrjohnnymoo1 Күн бұрын
(Edit: Since all the haters keep missing the point of this comment, the comment is that when someone wants a cheap reliable gun for the bed stand they get a cheap reliable pistol. Everyone makes fun of the 2011 competition dudes, despite them consistently shooting them more than 99% of the population, which makes them more prone to wear and tear.) Stoeger say's he feels pretty good about them, and he's got I think 30k rounds through his XC, which is wild because he came from the Glock world. I'm gonna be honest. A ton of people make fun of 2011 users, and whenever the hiccup in competition people are like,"Ooop 2011 issues" Without even acknowledging that pistol likely has 200+ rounds a week in competition. These guy's shoot the piss out of these things, and it's one of the few platforms where you'll meet people that legitimately shoot 50k+ rounds on their pistols.
@evanf7334
@evanf7334 Күн бұрын
2011 fanbois when their 100+ year old design handgun jams up after 200 rounds bc it wasn’t cleaned lol
@Mrjohnnymoo1
@Mrjohnnymoo1 Күн бұрын
@@evanf7334 2011 haters when people actually shoot their gun's instead talking about how reliable it is. Since you can't do math, 200 a week for competition exclusively is 10k a year...
@evanf7334
@evanf7334 Күн бұрын
@@Mrjohnnymoo1I’m sure you do shoot your gun bro. I’m sure you have a million+ rounds on your 2011. You see the nice thing about most striker fired polymer guns is they don’t start to choke if they’re not cleaned after one range session😂😂
@orbeclipse1
@orbeclipse1 Күн бұрын
“He came from the Glock world” are you serious lmao
@db84drteg
@db84drteg Күн бұрын
@@evanf7334 oh hey now, my Staccato mags need to be cleaned after every stage or else they malfunction. Staccato 2011s are horrible for what you pay for, including the beloved xc that doesn't compete in competition. The cheapest I'd go now is MPA, but the mags still suck.
@True_Patriotx
@True_Patriotx Күн бұрын
The Staccato mags are the most reliable mags for their guns. I wouldn’t use prodigy mags.
@waltermooreiii3665
@waltermooreiii3665 Күн бұрын
Me either after this video!
@cl790305
@cl790305 Күн бұрын
That's common knowledge in the 2011 world. These are glock fan bois trying to discredit any pistol that's not a glock. With all the fumbling going on.... I venture to say it's intentional.
@kyle5359
@kyle5359 Күн бұрын
​@@cl790305exactly. Everyone shoots better with a 2011 vs a glock.
@EQ9962
@EQ9962 Күн бұрын
I did not even know they were compatible.. well, clearly they arent but never even considered them.
@brandonrides8953
@brandonrides8953 Күн бұрын
Or Atlas
@PythonVs1
@PythonVs1 Күн бұрын
I have over 7k rounds with my staccato P and only had 2 issues through the 7k rounds that mainly a little bit of lubrication could have prevented, but besides that... she still runs like a champ.
@knx_-7114
@knx_-7114 Күн бұрын
ammunition
@PythonVs1
@PythonVs1 Күн бұрын
@ a mixture of 147 grain federal rounds and some 115 grain blazer brass rounds
@shepherd3085
@shepherd3085 Күн бұрын
My hi-point has never had a malfunction
@evanf7334
@evanf7334 Күн бұрын
Uh huh whatever you say bro and I have 20 billion rounds through my Glock and it’s still chugging along
@mrwendell6151
@mrwendell6151 Күн бұрын
Every gun will do that
@Davinoadam
@Davinoadam Күн бұрын
I sold off 7 guns this year (Glocks, CZs, Rugers) and bought a Staccato XC and optic. I love it and have been having a great time shooting it. I jumped up a classification in IDPA and am shooting better in USPSA matches. No regrats!
@armorers_wrench
@armorers_wrench Күн бұрын
The XC can only compete in open div right? Doesn't that actually put you at a huge disadvantage because the optic reciprocates and it isn't major power factor or whatever?
@Davinoadam
@Davinoadam Күн бұрын
@ In USPSA yes. But I also shoot a lot of IDPA, Steel Challenge and PCSL that don’t have power factor. I’ve shot Limited Minor for years in USPSA. Obviously, if someone is at the Master / GM level for USPSA, then this isn’t the gun for them.
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 Күн бұрын
I think a lot of people overthink this shit. You don't have to be on the cutting edge, you can go and have a good time without some crazy race gun. Hell, I've outshot guys running Limcat's and other wild setups using a Prodigy 4.25" and when I try their guns, I shoot them faster than they can. 😂​@@Davinoadam
@True_Patriotx
@True_Patriotx Күн бұрын
You guy’s probably damaged (bent) the ejector on the P by slamming in the larger 27 round mags or the prodigy mags on a locked back slide. You can’t do that with 2011s. If you want to do that with the P you have to use the Staccato G3 20 rounders with the new G3 base pads that prevents over seating the magazines.
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
That’s… just gay. If it’s a duty gun, it should accept any type of mag open or closed.
@acem82
@acem82 Күн бұрын
@@TREXARMS I mean, that's different, but it sounds like a training scar. Yes, we've come to expect that with modern guns, but M1911-style guns should *never* have the mag slammed in with the slide locked back ...save for special mags designed for it.
@88mallen5
@88mallen5 Күн бұрын
@@acem82 I have slammed magazines through Glocks thousands of times and never had an issue. I would rather trust my life with a duty gun that I don’t have to think about what I can and cannot do with it before it is put to work.
@LVbibby
@LVbibby Күн бұрын
He gives the correct answer and gets blasted. Guess slamming 40 s&w rounds in the mags would cause issues just the same but they didn't do that so they can do certain things, but mention something reasonable like use the proper mag or don't over insert when in slide lock and bam crying it's not duty capable then what a joke.
@jthrelf
@jthrelf Күн бұрын
​​@@TREXARMS just nuances of the platform... Also needs more cleaning and lube maintenance than striker guns. The critical magazine dimensions also need to be checked with calipers periodically. Tradeoffs...
@a38337
@a38337 Күн бұрын
7900 rounds through a Staccato P. 115, 124, 147 Gold Dot. The gun just plain works. #1 - Don't use Prodigy mags. #2 - The extractor on the P appears to need some tension added. I would also look at cleaning out the extractor channel in the slide while you're at it. Probably full of accumulated carbon and that can prevent it from working correctly. #3 - Lucas ask your friend Mike Pannone about his experience with the P. He put 10,000 rounds of Wolf through it in one range session with no problems whatsoever.
@True_Patriotx
@True_Patriotx Күн бұрын
I think they bent the ejector by slamming the 27 round mags into the gun when the slide was locked back.
@robbied3467
@robbied3467 18 сағат бұрын
I understand buying guns like 2011s. But in these two posts, you justified exactly why they are not serious tools to bet your life on. My wife had zero input from me, and she realized it’s too dainty to be put in a scenario where your life can depend on it. So she carries a Shield and keeps a 2.0 at bedside. I have a Special Forces and a Sand Hawk, and she has never once asked why I don’t carry either of them over my twenty year old G19. You can carry them. It’s very unlikely you will ever need them, and less likely you will need them in adverse conditions. But in that one in a billion scenario, it’s not worth taking the chance. And I know my EB and NH are incredibly overpriced and overrated for what they are, and I’d never try and defend that.
@heff1366
@heff1366 17 сағат бұрын
I carried Glock for years on duty, then switched to the Staccato P to carry on duty. I have put at least 4,800 rounds through it with zero malfunctions. Definitely only use Staccato mags (even though they’re pricey) I have my 6 range mags and 6 duty mags. I agree it was probably the prodigy mags, because we all know the prodigy has had MANY MANY problems, so why wouldn’t the mags be different? 🤷‍♂️ I trust my life with Staccato and so does our away team and many other deps.
@zanejohnson4940
@zanejohnson4940 16 сағат бұрын
#1 but a Glock because you won’t have to worry about an extractor channel or an extractor needing attention #2 don’t drop your staccato or it will go off #3 listing things like this is stupid
@zanejohnson4940
@zanejohnson4940 16 сағат бұрын
@@True_Patriotxyeah loading the gun broke it🤡
@stalo8
@stalo8 Күн бұрын
I can almost 100% say that first magazine not coming out of the gun was the Springfield magazine. Mainly because of its finish and his combination in shooting it in that gun. In my prodigy I've had zero problems with magazines
@Jack-M1113
@Jack-M1113 Күн бұрын
Springfield 🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@armorers_wrench
@armorers_wrench Күн бұрын
When did you get your prodigy and does it work? Did you have to mod it? I kinda want one for a range toy/project gun. I wanna learn to work on 2011's and the Prodigy does seem like a good gun for that purpose but I would like it to work RELATIVELY well out of the box. 2011s are fun to shoot.
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 Күн бұрын
​@@Jack-M1113 Unfortunately for you, they are doing a pretty good job.
@Jack-M1113
@Jack-M1113 Күн бұрын
@@Osprey1994 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 Күн бұрын
​@armorers_wrench Got one earlier this year, put about 700 rounds through it before I did something that caused hammer follow (I was fucking with it a lot), decided to have the internals upgraded and Atlas safeties fitted. Managed 9th in a local steel comp against people with full race guns, PCC's, and some seriously competent shooters. It has 1300rds through it as of right now, it's never choked on ammo even the shit I would dig up while working at my job. It's been cleaned three times, once after a 150rd break in, after about 500rds, and then after I got it back from the gunsmith. PS. Have someone experienced do the safeties. I had my coworker help me, and he unfortunately made a mistake that resulted in him paying for another pair of safeties (I appreciate it, I would have done the same thing, and I got him a Trex holster for his 19X as a thank you).
@mojocsr530
@mojocsr530 Күн бұрын
I never knew I needed to watch these videos until I started watching these videos. Thanks guys! Keep this format going.
@Badwolf2012-o1i
@Badwolf2012-o1i Күн бұрын
I have over 5k rounds through my staccato P, and neglect it like my Glock and I haven’t had a single malfunction. I’ve shot blazer 115, maxxtech 115-124, magetech 115, PMC 115-124, gold dot 124-147, norma 124
@iicashiiv790
@iicashiiv790 Күн бұрын
It’s ok we all cope sometimes
@cl790305
@cl790305 Күн бұрын
@@Badwolf2012-o1i Glock Fan bois. That's all.
@RoninWarrior1776
@RoninWarrior1776 Күн бұрын
My XC and C2 have functioned flawlessly but with around 7-8k ran through.
@Badwolf2012-o1i
@Badwolf2012-o1i Күн бұрын
@@RoninWarrior1776I find it hard to believe they have 3 different staccatos that all malfunctioned the first time out.
@RoninWarrior1776
@RoninWarrior1776 Күн бұрын
@@Badwolf2012-o1i More than half the year I’m at Swat training for 10 hour days on the range and have only seen a few light primer strikes at best but with old ammunition we’re cycling out. I to find it hard to believe but usually the operator induces most of the malfunctions or those shitty prodigy magazines.
@datchiggatai6737
@datchiggatai6737 Күн бұрын
So early that no one should theoretically be finished with the video lmao
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 Күн бұрын
I've found that the Staccato's apparently don't love Springfield mags. My manager got a C2, we tried one of my Prodigy mags, and it locked the gun up. I didn't see the same issue with a JG that my buddy had. As for my Prodigy, it ran reliably until I damaged the sear (I'm assuming) while I was fucking with internals with the plan of, "if I break it, I get better parts" and this resulted in the gun going full auto on occasion. Once I had a gunsmith set it up, it's now a great gun, eats anything I give it (including shit other people tossed cause it wouldn't run in their gun). Haven't been competing due to money reasons (carry gun gets the ammo budget at times like these). I don't expect to see issues with the gun though, and there are people with 20k plus through them and no issues (Ben Stoeger has an interview). Prodigy, LFA, or Fusion Firearms are what I'd suggest people look at if they want a 2011. If you have a bit more money, then Stealth Arms or BUL are options as well, along with used Staccato's if you can get a good deal (sub 2000 ideally). They are a blast to shoot, and if you're really interested in competition, they are a nice alternative to building out a CZ Shadow 2 which will ultimately run close to the same amount. There's also nothing wrong with just sticking with a Glock, Smith, or Walther. Just put in the time, push yourself, and dry rep your shit. PS. If you're really interested in 2011's check out Ben Stoeger's videos as well, and the Tenicor video on the CS was pretty interesting.
@Goldeader
@Goldeader Күн бұрын
I use prodigy mags in both my C2 and XC. You gotta tune most 2011 mags anyway
@Mandumoto
@Mandumoto Күн бұрын
I had to sandblast a prodigy mag to get it to fit and feed right, it was the 20rnd one. What ever coating was on it was stupid thick.
@killaronjones3933
@killaronjones3933 Күн бұрын
4000 for a 2011 is stupid im sorry
@Katana_Gryphon
@Katana_Gryphon Күн бұрын
$4000 for ANY pistol is stupid
@blackbird2825
@blackbird2825 Күн бұрын
Grand (i fuckn suck at being a faithful husband) Thumbs gun drop video from a few months back. you drop it, it will discharge. unfortunate.
@nickschultheis9590
@nickschultheis9590 Күн бұрын
They get a lot more expensive than 4k
@FirstLast-ff7qx
@FirstLast-ff7qx Күн бұрын
Hk mr556 is around that price which i think is still nuts. But for that price id way rather have a rifle. Its way more gun for the money. Just my 2 n half cents.
@SMS2884
@SMS2884 Күн бұрын
$4000 for a 2011 is stupid. Another way of saying I can't afford one. Good job
@TeensierPython
@TeensierPython Күн бұрын
Had a STI, liked it but had issues with it and ended up selling it. Got a staccato XC a few years ago. Love it. I shoot it every time I go out with a pistol. I like it so much I have started to get rid of my other pistols. Only problem I had with the XC was the adjustment screw in the trigger was set wrong. And I’m pretty sure that was become I bought it used.
@PNWSingleTrack
@PNWSingleTrack Күн бұрын
"Had a STI, liked it" haha
@TeensierPython
@TeensierPython Күн бұрын
@ little itchy and a bit drippy.
@albertkropp
@albertkropp Күн бұрын
Nice to see you guys starting to use some S&B ammo in your testing. It's way more reliable than Winchester ammo in my experience, and it's also far cleaner burning, too.
@tonytaylor5461
@tonytaylor5461 Күн бұрын
S&B 124 is my favorite. I absolutely love the way it feels out of every gun
@FirstLast-ff7qx
@FirstLast-ff7qx Күн бұрын
@tonytaylor5461 likewise. I love that stuff. The stuff i stay away from is blazer brass 115. Me n my buddy both had issues with 2 cases from the same lot.
@albertkropp
@albertkropp Күн бұрын
@@tonytaylor5461 Yeah, it's nice having full-power ammo to train with. Also nice not having to do a massive cleaning on my gun after a range session...Just a wipe down with some oil and I'm good to go.
@tonytaylor5461
@tonytaylor5461 Күн бұрын
@FirstLast-ff7qx I thought I was the only 1. Everyone swears by Blazer 115. My guns hate it
@FirstLast-ff7qx
@FirstLast-ff7qx Күн бұрын
@@tonytaylor5461 yup me n my buddy both had extraction issues. His beretta 92x performance and my hk p30 and some time later but other buddys g19 g5 did the same thing. Never had a problem with it other than that lot but theres too many options out there to mess with it again
@koonelos
@koonelos Күн бұрын
I run my carry VP9sk in IDPA. I have fed it any kind of crappy ammo and great ammo, you can imagine, including my own underpowered reloads. Never a hiccup, it fkn runs. I will continue to trust my life on it.
@FirstLast-ff7qx
@FirstLast-ff7qx Күн бұрын
I got a p30 n love it. Not the sk just the regular.
@poopy7709
@poopy7709 Күн бұрын
Neat....nobody cares
@koonelos
@koonelos Күн бұрын
@ 👍🏻
@CookbookAdventures
@CookbookAdventures Күн бұрын
I shoot my VP9skB better than anything in my case. Love that gun. Top 3. Ergos matter. Imo.
@koonelos
@koonelos Күн бұрын
@@CookbookAdventures They definitely do!
@HertzPenske
@HertzPenske 23 сағат бұрын
My conceal carry gun is the C2 Limited and I shoot the XC in USPSA. I have had zero issues. I find Staccato’s to be very reliable. Many police departments do also since they are using Staccato as their duty guns.
@kodiak7964
@kodiak7964 Сағат бұрын
Nah it's still an open gun but "marketed" as duty which they never should have done. Genius move on their part. Police often can't shoot and have minimal training so they choose guns to mask shooter inefficiencies. That's the main reason why people buy Staccato. "Buying skill"
@Florida_Marine
@Florida_Marine Күн бұрын
Glad T Rex did this video. I think this can definitely be a niche video segment T Rex should do. By that I mean evaluating specific items that are very “Hype beast”, regardless of the outcome… Good, bad or indifferent.
@greggullett1272
@greggullett1272 21 сағат бұрын
This was fun to watch but you guys are absolutely correct, other stuff takes priority over a Gucci gun
@brandonrides8953
@brandonrides8953 Күн бұрын
My Staccato P 5" i bought this year has so far eaten 124 Blazer, 124 s&b, 115 Winchester. 1600 rounds mixed. Last 700 of Blazer 124 i havent cleaned the gun. All Gen 3 Staccato mags and Checkmate mags. No malfunctions. No l dont get to shoot often but when i go its 300-400 rounds. I shoot the P better than any gun ive ever had. It is my go to for sure. My second favorite is my Glock 45 with Radian ramjet.
@db84drteg
@db84drteg Күн бұрын
I'm glad to see they're getting better. My first P was straight garbage, didn't run anything and had constant mag issues. My second one was better, but couldn't handle the desert dust where I shoot. Got through two USPSA stages before it became a single action gun. Went through it and nothing fit right: barrel lugs were misshaped, barrel feet were mismatched and caused lockup/timing issues, disconnector wasn't smooth, and the sear had a burr on it. Got it all fixed and then had constant mag issues (gen 2).
@Knight_of_the_Old_Code
@Knight_of_the_Old_Code 22 сағат бұрын
I've been carrying a Staccato CS for awhile now and I love it. When I first got it, other than a quick initial cleaning/lube, I fired roughly 500 rounds through it without cleaning. All the parts Staccato says to keep lubed often were dry. Gun ran flawlessly with ZERO malfunctions. There's also a video of the CS here on KZbin where 3,000 rounds were fired through it relentlessly without a single cleaning and it ran with, dare I say, Glock-like reliability.
@ThePlantedTankTV
@ThePlantedTankTV Күн бұрын
I just bought your Nova belt and I love it. Can't wait for my sidecar holster to come in. Btw. I work 3rd shift and you always upload a super long video right before bed. 😂 love you brother keep doing your thing!
@dboll208
@dboll208 Күн бұрын
You actually have to use the magazines that were created for the gun for it too work properly lol. The proper way to hold a 1911/2011 is to ride your thumb on top of the thumb safety while shooting. Also if your pressing on the slide stop while shooting it will cause issues. You have to change your grip from a glock. The biggest issue appeared to be ammo related, i have the p and c2 never had a single issue
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
Watch again, we had new staccato mags too
@chopinisyourruler
@chopinisyourruler Күн бұрын
I haven't finished this yet, but - why would you design a Staccato "test" with Prodigy mags?? That would be like conducting a BCM rifle test with absolute bottom-of-the-barrel AR mags. Kind of invalidates your test for what is a very minor cost savings. The very first issue I'm seeing in the video (~ 5:10) is clearly a Prodigy mag.
@LVbibby
@LVbibby Күн бұрын
Exactly. They also don't understand over inserting extended mags in slide lock either.
@rcah6191
@rcah6191 Күн бұрын
I owe a Staccato P, exceptional gun! I love it! 👍No particular issue. 🤔
@frankopanklaric
@frankopanklaric Күн бұрын
Very informative video. Thank you! You guys shoot great. Brantley is a demon.
@Kwameee01
@Kwameee01 Күн бұрын
Another hour long video THANK YOUUU. I got tired of rewatching the old ones lol.
@RoninWarrior1776
@RoninWarrior1776 Күн бұрын
My C2 and Duty XC have never failed me. My C2 has literally saved my life and others so I’ll stick with them for life! Great service and durability in my eyes. I’ve put thousands of rounds through with minimal cleaning. Our entire SWAT team and 50 percent of the agency runs some for of Staccato.
@packerjansen12
@packerjansen12 Күн бұрын
I have a P and C2. 7k rounds between the two, mostly out of the P, zero malfunctions. I trust my life with them at work too and I’m confident in that.
@jthrelf
@jthrelf Күн бұрын
Interested in the C2 saving life story
@SigmaEpsilon
@SigmaEpsilon Күн бұрын
Couldn't stop laughing at various points in the video but it was also really informative and interesting. Great video from the team and well done Lucas and Brantley 👍
@ericborio2550
@ericborio2550 Күн бұрын
I’m sure these give a bit of a performance edge but not 600% performance increase. For most shooters I just don’t think the cost is justifiable. Especially if they havent mastered fundamentals.
@gansior4744
@gansior4744 19 сағат бұрын
Stock Glock and 5000 $ worth of ammo is a much better deal
@taylorbeard6042
@taylorbeard6042 Күн бұрын
Had my Staccato P since early July. 12k rounds on it it has been 100% reliable. No light primer strikes, stove pipes, etc. I've owned the lot on striker guns. Glock, sig, smith, cz, walther etc. I don't recall any of them being 100% at that round count.
@armorers_wrench
@armorers_wrench Күн бұрын
My Glock 19 has been 100% at a similar round count. My Sig P365 has FTE's all the friggin time. My Canik Rival has occasional light primer strikes but I did screw around with some trigger springs so I think that's on me because it didn't used to do that. I guess I'm gonna have to go back to the original springs. I am getting a Walther PDP soon.
@waltermooreiii3665
@waltermooreiii3665 Күн бұрын
Did u ever run cheap ammo like 115gr practice ammo? I used brass on the last range day and had two stove pipes @ 100rounds! What about you?
@taylorbeard6042
@taylorbeard6042 Күн бұрын
@waltermooreiii3665 i would say 10k of thr 12k had been 124gr blazer brass. 2k has been a mix of 115gr blazer and 124gr browning. Then I have about 100 rounds of 147gr speer gold dot.
@taylorbeard6042
@taylorbeard6042 Күн бұрын
@armorers_wrench do yourself a favor and get the pdp pro. You can find them for only about 100 more than the og pdp. Definitely worth the money. I can shoot mine every bit as well as I can my Staccato P.
@taylorbeard6042
@taylorbeard6042 Күн бұрын
​@armorers_wrench do yourself a favor and get the pdp pro. Def worth the extra money. I can shoot mine every bit as accurate as the P.
@ZachTaylorGears
@ZachTaylorGears Күн бұрын
***You are having problems with extractor tension for sure thus why you are having so many FTEs. There is a lot less case rim for the extractor to bite on 9mm as opposed to a 45 gun and the 1911/2011 just hasn't found a great way around this yet. Quick fix is to take the extractor out and bend it back to tension. Slide taken off the frame, the extractor tension alone should be able to hold a loaded 9mm round on the breach face perpendicular to the ground and rotated 360 degrees. The gun should also be able to eject a casing when fired without a magazine in it (so the gun doesnt lean on the follower tension to push the case up/out) Pretty well known issue in the 1911/2011 world but I totally agree. These guns are great in their own way just cannot hang with the simplicity of modern polymer 9's that were designed from the ground up with 9mm case dimensions in mind. I'm a huge 1911/2011 guy, just gotta accept you are dealing with 100+ year old concept regardless of single/double stack
@sergiolopez-tf4ef
@sergiolopez-tf4ef Күн бұрын
Yall are the first i have seen do this with these. Awesome video yall
@andygray1408
@andygray1408 Күн бұрын
Being a prior gunsmith at STI. Would not buy and STI or Staccato. Especially if I was wanting to trust my life to it.
@xgamersparten
@xgamersparten Күн бұрын
Keep her clean and lubed and she won’t fail you. I don’t treat my staccato like a Glock because it’s not. It’s a damn staccato, I haven’t had any issues with mine in over 3k rounds other than 2 or 3 light strikes. I’m personally convinced they did not take care of the staccato P in this video or it’s a lemon because I’ve never seen one have so many malfunctions. If im carrying it for my edc, it’s going to be spotless and full of ammo I know it likes. Reliably is not a question with them as long as they are maintained. Regardless, I loved watching this video start to end. Definitely other great guns out there that do the same for less money but there’s nothing like blasting away with a 2011. Fun vid 👍🏻
@jollyroger0612-yo1yc
@jollyroger0612-yo1yc Күн бұрын
It is a really good analogy when people compare Glock to Honda and high end 2011 to Ferrari. The Honda is going to run for 30,000 plus miles with zero maintenance and work like it should every time where the Ferrari needs to be meticulously maintained to perform at its highest level. Also any shade tree mechanic can put some money and parts into their civic to make it preform better, but it takes a master technician to work on the Ferrari. All the talk about price but how many glocks has t.rex arms thrown enough parts in to make up the price difference between the glock and the staccato P. Also I bet the ejector in the P was damaged by them slamming home those giant 26 round mags on an empty chamber. Over insertion is a thing with the 1911 platform. Over 15 years of nothing but striker fired pistols thinking I would never switch to the double stack 1911 platform. Now I'll never go back.
@LVbibby
@LVbibby Күн бұрын
Thanks for the spot on comment. The mix of trash durmag mags, shit Winchester ammo, and slamming mags and extended mags at that makes this whole demo a joke. Thought T Rex was into education and data, but didn't even bother to learn the proper manual of arms and isolate the factors to actually determine what failed.
@colt191169
@colt191169 Күн бұрын
So you are basically saying if you run the gun hard it stops working? Thats silly.
@colt191169
@colt191169 Күн бұрын
@@LVbibby So you are basically saying if you run the gun hard it stops working? Thats silly.
@bloodycrepe
@bloodycrepe Күн бұрын
That's false. He went over his carry Glock configuration countless times. He barely mods them.
@gerechoppers
@gerechoppers Күн бұрын
I had a Staccato C2 that I had to keep disgustingly oiled to get through one magazine. I didn’t keep it very long. I was 100% disappointed as I had saved up for a while to get what I thought would be my forever dream gun. That’s just my sample of one and I’m just sharing my experience.
@douglasu5914
@douglasu5914 Күн бұрын
I’ve lost track of how many rounds I fired through my C2 limited without a single malfunction. Nothing crazy, but a couple thousand rounds, Both suppressed and comped. My XC had a couple malfunctions when it was brand new. But none since then. I do load my own ammo and load them a longer length than factory ammo. Not sure if that makes a difference.
@scubatankgabe546
@scubatankgabe546 Күн бұрын
I own Glocks and Staccato’s. There is a reason my Glock leaves the safe everyday
@Rhetorical346
@Rhetorical346 Күн бұрын
because its smaller and lighter?
@maxhe9571
@maxhe9571 Күн бұрын
@@Rhetorical346 More reliable I guess
@scubatankgabe546
@scubatankgabe546 Күн бұрын
@@Rhetorical346 more reliable in dirty conditions and no beavertail to stab me when bending over
@BrooklynNick718
@BrooklynNick718 Күн бұрын
Cool story
@Men-Of-Arm
@Men-Of-Arm Күн бұрын
@@BrooklynNick718 Because it's disposable.
@markhansen9735
@markhansen9735 Күн бұрын
I’ve always had lots of light strikes with Winchester white box 9mm in a multitude of pistols from Glocks to m&ps and sigs. The primers are crap
@runandsnipe
@runandsnipe Күн бұрын
Is Mark Fry going to make an appearance with his Staccato?
@CivilianOperatorsUnion
@CivilianOperatorsUnion Күн бұрын
Lets be real here, that P has way more rounds through it then you suggested in the video. unless someone was dry fire holster drawing it thousands of times and not actually shooting it.
@Knight_of_the_Old_Code
@Knight_of_the_Old_Code 22 сағат бұрын
Yeah. I felt like there may have been a subconscious/underlying bias during these tests seeing as most of them generally run Glocks.
@CivilianOperatorsUnion
@CivilianOperatorsUnion 21 сағат бұрын
@ right which is totally fine, also there are manufacture recommended maintenance and parts replacement.
@Knight_of_the_Old_Code
@Knight_of_the_Old_Code 21 сағат бұрын
@@CivilianOperatorsUnion Agreed. Just comes down to take care of your tools, and your tools will take care of you. Fundamental discipline...
@CivilianOperatorsUnion
@CivilianOperatorsUnion 21 сағат бұрын
@ absolutely
@scottlast4241
@scottlast4241 Күн бұрын
It would be interesting to have Stacatto look at these guns and diagnose why all the stoppages. Wouldn’t shock me if they reached out to you guys after seeing this.
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
We’ll be sending our gun in for sure. But usually gun companies don’t disclose stuff like that
@islas357
@islas357 Күн бұрын
White box is basically junk ammo. PMC or Blazer have both been way more reliable for me.
@DanTheRager
@DanTheRager Күн бұрын
@ 10:00 "It's probably the gun not the ammo....White box 115" I laughed so hard!
@islas357
@islas357 Күн бұрын
@@DanTheRageri wrote the comment before seeing that part, it was hilarious.
@DanTheRager
@DanTheRager Күн бұрын
@@islas357 why throw it in there? If you have a staccato, you are not using white box… blazer, like you said, has not failed me.
@mcnasty0322
@mcnasty0322 Күн бұрын
Bro what pmc and blazer are underpowered what white box you buying i never had issues
@DanTheRager
@DanTheRager Күн бұрын
@@mcnasty0322 Blazer 115 and 124 is all I shoot. I never had a issue in my P or Glock. White box isn't much cheaper than blazer and more consistent imo.
@darthvader4867
@darthvader4867 30 минут бұрын
I have a Staccato XC that I carry for work. It was 4500. One 21 round magazine is 100 bucks. The base plate for a red dot sight was about 100; and the aim point acro that I carry on it was around 500. It’s not a cheap weapon, but when you need the best and you don’t have a budget, then I would highly recommend buying a Staccato XC.
@K-bob_45
@K-bob_45 Күн бұрын
Pro tip: when you have failures to extract, typically checking the extractor is a good place to start when getting to the root cause.
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
Sure, but it’s not like you’re fixing that on the range lol
@K-bob_45
@K-bob_45 Күн бұрын
@TREXARMS you’d just depress the firing pin with a car key or something and slide out the extractor. If it’s not super bound up it would come right out. The extractor tunnel is probably full of carbon and preventing it from getting a full purchase on the case rim.
@DavidGarcia-fk8fp
@DavidGarcia-fk8fp Күн бұрын
​@TREXARMS you are pulling the extractor and ficing it at the range. If you know what you're doing it takes less than 2 minutes. The extractor in the P is not tuned, it's a common issue and Staccato should take the 2 mins to tune it before it leaves the factory.
@tatty5409
@tatty5409 Күн бұрын
They dont make winchester ammo memes for nothing 😂.
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
It’s true, but the Winchester worked in the XC
@tatty5409
@tatty5409 Күн бұрын
@TREXARMS true I'm sorry I'm just butthurt, I just bought a staccato P that I had customized, I haven't shot it yet and I'm gonna be mad if I see these failures. Plus I purchased a extra threaded barrel for my JK armament suppressor so now I thinking it's not gonna like that even more 🤣
@dan_mccaulley
@dan_mccaulley Күн бұрын
I’ve got about 6000 rounds through my staccato p. It needed some tension on the extractor which I discovered around 500 rounds. No issues at all until very recently when it was failing to extract but I think there was just some carbon buildup on the extractor. Gave it a good cleaning and it hasn’t happened since. Gun is phenomenal. It’s my bedside pistol for a reason.
@AstraZero7
@AstraZero7 Күн бұрын
The issue with the P in the video isn't a mag issue, it's a extractor issue. Specifically the extractor slipping off the case because of a shitty spring or weak spring.
@True_Patriotx
@True_Patriotx Күн бұрын
More likely they bent the ejector by over seating the 27 rounders on an open slide.
@garyandtricia1
@garyandtricia1 Күн бұрын
​@@True_Patriotxthey didn't "overseat it", if it CAN travel that far its a design flaw.
@countryboy9546
@countryboy9546 9 сағат бұрын
@@garyandtricia1every single handgun with the exception of Glock can overseat a magazine and bend the extractor. That’s why you see all the other manufacturers running extended base plates or sleeves on the magazines. 2011s and other manufacturers use the baseplate as a stop for the magazine to prevent over insertion. Glock uses a ledge that is molded into the frame and magazine as a bump stop. That’s why you can ram a Glock magazine of any size into any size Glock without any issue. But you can’t do the same for other firearms without running the risk of over inserting the magazine and contacting the ejector.
@garyandtricia1
@garyandtricia1 Сағат бұрын
@countryboy9546 nothing of what you said, changes what I said.
@MrHalofan22
@MrHalofan22 Күн бұрын
As somone who owns a staccato, a m and p and a glock i felt this was a solid and realistic review. I'll always love to shoot my staccato even with its flaws.
@REDACTED1-1
@REDACTED1-1 Күн бұрын
I think the gripe everyone has who doesn't own a staccato is the ones who do own one never shut up about their gun.
@Jaslath
@Jaslath Күн бұрын
That's the same complaint I've heard from people about Glock fans.
@Katana_Gryphon
@Katana_Gryphon Күн бұрын
@Jaslath Glock fanboys are annoying but you know what’s worse? Glock haters.
@andreivaldez2929
@andreivaldez2929 Күн бұрын
"It insists upon itself"- Peter Griffin talking about Staccatos, I think
@intensifier1346
@intensifier1346 Күн бұрын
Gotta flex!
@robbied3467
@robbied3467 Күн бұрын
And they talk more about their Staccato way more than they shoot it. Probably due to fear of clearing malfunctions in front of others. As far as Glock fanboys go, Glocks have been backing up the talk hard for over 30 years. You may prefer another brand of whisky, but if you cant acknowledge that Glocks do their own talking, well, that is just a hater. Plain and simple
@PROPHET_-ly1pq
@PROPHET_-ly1pq 12 сағат бұрын
I own a Staccato P w/ DLC barrel manufactured in 2024. I’ve shot 3000 rounds (conservative on the numbers, it’s likely 3500+), 1000rds of blazer brass, 1000rds of Fiochi Range Dynamics, 1000rds of BPS and some STV. I’ve used staccato magazines and prodigy magazines(flush fit and 21 rd extended). I’ve experienced less than 10 malfunctions, all of which were light strikes. The pistol was cleaned and lubricated generously after every 250-300 rounds. This has been my experience, with a sample size of 1.
@TerraRyzer
@TerraRyzer Күн бұрын
Yep, they’re not “combat” pistols. But that’s okay… it’s okay to buy firearms for fun.
@knx_-7114
@knx_-7114 Күн бұрын
so, what is the purpose of this guns? if dont is competition, looks like to me they are combat or conceable guns, and if are the purpose, this pistols are pretty bad, and you're just making an excuse not to admit it.
@armorers_wrench
@armorers_wrench Күн бұрын
You could definitely use it as a duty pistol--1911's have been carried for over a hundred years and they are known to be more finicky than modern striker guns. If you are aware of the pitfalls inherent in the platform you should be fine to carry one imo. The biggest problem is something that I'm kinda shocked Staccato hasn't addressed--they have no mechanism to prevent over-insertion which can cause damage to the ejector quite easily. They could easily make it so over insertion is impossible but for whatever reason they didn't bother addressing the issue. Also, they may as well go with an external extractor. The 2011/1911 could be streamlined for modern manufacturing methods which would reduce the cost of manufacture and result in greater reliability but for some reason the current 2011 manufacturers don't bother. I don't understand it tbh. All they've done is widen the grip of a 1911 to accept a double stack mag...
@T1Ballistic
@T1Ballistic Күн бұрын
There are some police departments that use them such as phoenix state patrol
@cl790305
@cl790305 Күн бұрын
​@knx_-7114 don't believe the hype from this video. This is a video of 2 glock fan bois not use to the 1911/2011 platform.
@Lordofthepoors
@Lordofthepoors Күн бұрын
Define "combat" pistol. Because the US military used 1911s for a long time and various units continued and may still continue to use modified 1911s.
@kangaroobot
@kangaroobot Күн бұрын
My first Staccato I bought was a C2, I went to the range and started shooting it right away, it jammed on me after 80 rounds on some basic Winchester ammo I bought (I don’t remember the grain). Kept shooting, and it kept jamming every once in awhile. Went home, put a punch of lubricant on it’s required parts, hasn’t jammed ever again. 😊
@stevendill5166
@stevendill5166 Күн бұрын
I love the “MALFUNTIOOONNNN”😂
@PrayingPanda
@PrayingPanda Күн бұрын
Any thoughts on doing a Stealth Arms Platapus review? A 2011 that takes glock mags.
@monsoon_tactical
@monsoon_tactical Күн бұрын
The staccato P definitely has some kinda of failure in the ejection system staccato did have some extractors with poor metal quality causing the tuning of the extractor to fail. And the prodigy mags are not the best they are 50 bucks for a reason… If you want a faster tracking XC throw a 10/11lb spring in it!
@tonyrogers6027
@tonyrogers6027 20 сағат бұрын
I almost bought one yesterday 😂 Thanks for saving me money with this video.
@ArmadilloArmament
@ArmadilloArmament Күн бұрын
I drank the coolaid and tried to transition to 2011's. Tisas, Bul, Staccato, Alchemy. I sold them all and I'm back to my Roland Special and G43x.
@tonytaylor5461
@tonytaylor5461 Күн бұрын
While 2011's are prettier, you can't go wrong with glock
@SteelCityIceBirds
@SteelCityIceBirds Күн бұрын
Aside from a slightly loose right side safety, my alchemy has been flawless.
@ArmadilloArmament
@ArmadilloArmament Күн бұрын
@@SteelCityIceBirds Mine quantico hicap sucked lmao.
@SteelCityIceBirds
@SteelCityIceBirds Күн бұрын
@ what didn’t you like about it?
@ArmadilloArmament
@ArmadilloArmament Күн бұрын
@@SteelCityIceBirds I have a vid on my channel, but basically it just had a ton of QC issues.
@CS-xm3be
@CS-xm3be 29 минут бұрын
I own both....love both. Own 6 glocks and a P. FWIW, I had my Gen5 34 have its slide lock fail while shooting and had the slide completely depart the frame with less than 1K through it (all OEM internals). My P has been flawless. I've carried the 17, 34 and P on Duty. I trust, and like, both just fine...
@apocalypse1175
@apocalypse1175 Күн бұрын
“Striker Boys Confirm Bias”. Fixed the title for you.
@orbeclipse1
@orbeclipse1 Күн бұрын
There are plenty of hammer guns that aren’t unreliable pieces of shit bro.
@Stratagos11
@Stratagos11 Күн бұрын
This should have 5,000 more likes
@ProjectD13X
@ProjectD13X Күн бұрын
Sounds like someone overpaid for a bad gun lol
@waltermooreiii3665
@waltermooreiii3665 Күн бұрын
I own a staccato p, before that? 1911 springfield and it is well known the 1911's do not like low grain ammo, under 120gr. Turns out my staccato doesn't either! Failure to extract at 100rounds! Just shoot 124gr or better with the 2011! You will thank me later! I wouldn't dream of running more than 400 rounds without cleaning mine to run more ammo through it! Gr8 content!
@notme3184
@notme3184 Күн бұрын
Have a little over 20k rounds on my P with an x300 and P2. I’ve never cleaned it. I just lube the rails and barrel every 500 rounds. No parts breakages. I only run CCI Blazer brass 115 and 124 grain and Federal HST +P 124 grain. The DLC coating hold up amazing. It still looks brand new aside from it being really dirty.
@josephshields2959
@josephshields2959 Күн бұрын
wow, usually internal extractor needs some cleaning around 10k
@notme3184
@notme3184 Күн бұрын
@@josephshields2959interesting. I’ve never disassembled the gun before.
@josephshields2959
@josephshields2959 Күн бұрын
@@notme3184 you don’t necessarily need to do a full strip but you can usually get a pick tool to clean out the gunk near the extractor
@oakwestplayer
@oakwestplayer Күн бұрын
I got 9700 on my P and haven’t cleaned it in the last 2700 rounds. No real issues, had 2 rounds sluggish going into battery, which I probably shortstroked. Both times were at a match, and I loaded a full mag, and racked the slide. I was on the timer so probably nerves.
@notme3184
@notme3184 Күн бұрын
@@oakwestplayer How often do you lube yours
@jaydubs6354
@jaydubs6354 13 минут бұрын
I have a heritage edition staccato p. Ran it about 2k rounds in the last year between training and shooting it in uspsa. I do keep it clean with a thorough cleaning every 500 or so rounds. I’m not shooting it this heavily in a single day at least haven’t done so yet. More the fact that I haven’t taken it to a class yet so it hasn’t had a heavy single day round count. I will take a Ben stoger class with it this year so I’ll get a lot more rounds through it. Currently only issues I’ve had is failure to eject or failure to feed. This has happened a total of 8 times in the 11ish months I’ve owned it. The failure to feed one occurrence was a bad mag. I changed out the spring and follower and that issue was corrected. The spring actually snapped which I’ve never seen before haha. The other ftf’s were due to dirty mags. Dropping mags on dirt/gravel while training and shooting in uspsa the follower overtime would get stuck so I’d have to take the mag apart, swab it down and put it back together. It’s not so finicky that you have to clean it every time they hit the ground but if you aren’t swapping your mags out regularly and they hit the dirt 5-6 times you’ll probably begin to see it occur. The failure to eject was a one off occurrence within the first 1k rounds so potentially break in related. Or ammo. I only run staccato 20 round mags in this gun, and I primary shoot a mixture of LAX reman 147gr, federal hst 147 gr (my usual carry ammo) and federal American eagle 147gr. I’d say a conservative estimate 80% of the rounds I’ve shot with the staccato is the lax reman 147gr. 147gr is my personal preference to shoot with 9mm. Also having a few suppressed handguns I typically stock 147 gr because I enjoy shooting suppressed. I have also ran some 124gr and 115gr without any issue. Not enough to really boast about. Maybe 100 rds of each just grabbing some ammo out of friends bags if I ran out and we wanted to shoot a bit longer. Overall I do like the gun. I have a ranger band covering the grip safety. I don’t like a grip safety and I will eventually swap my grip out for a Fowler grip. I also do not carry this gun. It’s just something I enjoy training with and shooting in uspsa limited optics. I wouldn’t recomend it for edc or duty due to the concern of not being drop safe. Also… if I have to use a gun in defense I’d much rather have my cheap and easily replaceable Glock 19 wind up in evidence for months rather than my $3k+ pistol I compete with. Also personal preference. Plenty of people do comfortably carry a staccato with full trust in them. It just not something I’m interested in for edc or duty
@Jack-M1113
@Jack-M1113 Күн бұрын
"Officer please don't take this for the evidence locker, the attacker didn't kill me but my wife sure as hell will." 😂😂😂
@Duda4711
@Duda4711 23 сағат бұрын
What a frustrating and dissapointing experience with Staccato! I am a firearm enthusiast currently sitting on 40+ pistols with the double stack 1911s (2 Atlas, 4 Staccatos, 1 Nighthawk, and 1 Cabot) being by far my favorite platform. I shoot about 15,000 rounds/year and my combined count with this platform is over 25,000 rounds. I shoot mostly 115 and 124 FMJ brass ammo and I cannot remember the last time I had a malfunction. The same is true for all other platforms and ironically the last malfunction I remember took place with a brand new Gen 5 G20 MOS. The CS is on my EDC rotation and I am capable of running that pistol accurately, fast and reliably. Needless to say, I was like 😮 watching this video. The lesson here is that people will form opinions based on their experiences. Another interesting aspect of this video/review was calling the recoil impulse of the CS jumpy while the folks at GBRS in a recent review described the CS as a soft shooting pistol. Videos such as this are great and I appreciate honest reviews (unlike Colion Noir that claims that every pistol he review is the "best ever") but there is no substitute for going out shooting and forming your own opinion.
@shrubjr893
@shrubjr893 5 сағат бұрын
Anyone thats ever been around the 1911 platform AT ALL should know that the most likely cause of a malfunction is....THE MAGAZINE. So, what does Lucas do? Promptly uses the wrong magazines, damages the P with them, then complains about them the whole video. Its either a mistake, or a setup 🤷‍♂️ Either way, its not a fair shake for the Staccatos, but then again we knew Lucas was biased against them from the beginning, so really no surprises here.
@kodiak7964
@kodiak7964 Сағат бұрын
Cope.
@stinger8634
@stinger8634 Күн бұрын
Who’s got the cliff notes on this video? Don’t want to waste and hour to have Lucas just say buy a Glock.
@tonytaylor5461
@tonytaylor5461 Күн бұрын
Ok that closing line was too funny
@cwhitty05
@cwhitty05 Күн бұрын
Yup, you called it. They had several malfunctions and said they were cool range toys, but probably not the best for EDC. Buy a Glock or other reliable striker pistol.
@cl790305
@cl790305 Күн бұрын
​Im willing to bet it was the mags and ammo!​@@cwhitty05
@stinger8634
@stinger8634 Күн бұрын
@ i haven’t watched it. Don’t want to waste an hour on it for the end to him just say just stick to a Glock.
@clutchshot3306
@clutchshot3306 Күн бұрын
Yea, Lucas even said that he would even pick up a Sig over the Staccatos! "Glock, M&P, and even a Sig" were his words. Never thought he would say it.
@z71offroad95
@z71offroad95 Күн бұрын
Im not Lucas known or Lucas good, but I had a P that I used in comps that I put at least 10k rounds through with maybe 2 failures. I currently use an XC, and I have next to no failures on 5k-6k on it. Maybe Im lucky, but mine have been phenomenal shooters and have sold several more through allowing friends and others to shoot them. People can say I haven't ran them hard enough or whatever they want, but I do several comps per month and practice in between. Just my experience and .02 with the two models I have owned. I would 100% buy them again no doubt in my mind. Im sure there are nicer/better out there but the XC is a monster and I love it. I carry the XC occasionally but I bought it more for the performance than as a carry piece. I typically run 124 nato through the XC.
@True_Patriotx
@True_Patriotx Күн бұрын
They bent the ejector on the P by slamming the 27 round magazines in on a locked back slide causing the mag to over seat. If you only use the 17 or 20 round Staccato G3 magazines this is Not an issue because those mags prevent over inserting them and they cannot come in contact with the ejector. Their lack of knowledge of 2011s caused them to damage their gun and make it look like it was unreliable garbage. This was user error.
@hugosuarez6633
@hugosuarez6633 Күн бұрын
Grabs extended mag proceeds to ram mag slamming it into ejector multiple times....😂
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
That’s literally what you do with every other handgun
@True_Patriotx
@True_Patriotx Күн бұрын
Yep they totally bent the ejector on the P by slamming those 27 rounders in on an open slide. User induced damage but not knowing about 2011s.
@1986GaryJr
@1986GaryJr 13 сағат бұрын
@@True_Patriotx100% - they are overpriced for sure but this is common knowledge for any 1911/2011.
@countryboy9546
@countryboy9546 9 сағат бұрын
@@TREXARMS nope. Thats what you can do on a Glock because of its design. No other gun allows extended mags to be safe without extended baseplates. Research it. You’ll see why Glock is able to get away with extended mags.
@patriotfromthenoket6141
@patriotfromthenoket6141 Күн бұрын
I’ve had my original C2 now for 3 years. It’s ported and tuned and been eating everything I throw at it. Probably has 15K on it. I shoot the heck out of it. Run it outside every week. Do a lot of runNgun stuff. Has it failed before, yeah. Mostly magazine springs wearing out. Good mags and high power springs are essential. Needs to be taken care of like an AR. Wish you guys had the new C.
@cwhitty05
@cwhitty05 Күн бұрын
Thanks for this! My wife and I were eyeing the Staccato as an EDC. I was wondering how reliable they were. Lots of guntubers praise them. I think I’ll save my $4k and stick with my G19, that I know will go bang every single time.
@intensifier1346
@intensifier1346 Күн бұрын
With a $4k price tag think of all the marketing funds they have!
@cwhitty05
@cwhitty05 Күн бұрын
@@intensifier1346 and think of how many shooting courses one could take and learn to shoot their $600 guns as fast and accurate as the shooting in this video.
@intensifier1346
@intensifier1346 Күн бұрын
@ it is so American to go buy something expensive instead of putting the work in. Staccato is THE gun for those on oxempic
@Goldeader
@Goldeader Күн бұрын
Haven’t had a single issue out of either of my staccatos, c2 and xc, with close to 10k rounds now. Only staccato that costs 4K is the Xc which isn’t ideal to carry even tho I do.
@cwhitty05
@cwhitty05 Күн бұрын
@@Goldeader I priced out a Staccato C the other day. That’s the one they like to market as the model you can actually conceal. With the barrel coating, Delta Point Pro, and Surefire light, it was right at $4k. Sure, you can get the gun for $3k, but to get it set up the way you’d want it takes another grand. I’m glad you haven’t had any issues with your’s though. This was the first video I’ve seen where they’ve actually had problems with a Staccato, and it wasn’t just one gun. One failed a lot worse than the others, but they still all had some malfunctions, albeit some of them were what I would consider user error, like running inferior mags from another gun.
@EverythingsTactical
@EverythingsTactical Күн бұрын
Love these comments 😂 I’m so glad I got a Platipus for USPSA and not a stattico
@dcreel1984
@dcreel1984 Күн бұрын
10k in staccatos and buying shitty prodigy mags to save less than $150...
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
We had staccato mags too. But yes, the logic is questionable and people shouldn’t do it
@hateca1
@hateca1 Күн бұрын
Your P is having an extractor issue. Either needs more tension or a new one. Same failure can occur in a standard 1911. I would replace the ejectors in both of these pistols they are most likely damaged from over seating extended mags into the gun with an open slide. Again another common no no in standard 1911.
@heroesnpatriots9622
@heroesnpatriots9622 Күн бұрын
What’s with the color grading?
@colenielsen5112
@colenielsen5112 Күн бұрын
Great video, appreciate the honesty!
@Blacksunlight7
@Blacksunlight7 Күн бұрын
Not sure how old the P is. Not sure if it was new when you got it. Not sure how many rounds have been through it. Not cleaned. Not using OEM mags. Why should I care about this review again?
@plmkoo6772
@plmkoo6772 Күн бұрын
Coping P owner
@Blacksunlight7
@Blacksunlight7 18 сағат бұрын
@@plmkoo6772 I can see why you’d say that. It’s cheap and easy, probably like your gun collection. But objectively speaking, why would you ever give a fuck about a review of a firearm under those questionable conditions.
@Jay_Spesh_Stay_Fresh
@Jay_Spesh_Stay_Fresh 11 сағат бұрын
@@Blacksunlight7I have a rifle that costs 2 XC pistols. Cope lil boy. 2011’s are not worth the hype for all the bullshit “special tuning”
@MrTylercaruthers
@MrTylercaruthers Күн бұрын
I respect that you posted this being that you had to of known it would upset most staccato owners. I have 2 of them and never had any issues, however I do know people who have! I carry a suited up 43X and never once had an issue. I just feel more comfortable carrying glock. But also love staccato for range days and feeling “tactical” after watching John wick 😂😂😂😂
@javierrodriguez6415
@javierrodriguez6415 Күн бұрын
2 of these guns can get you some night vision instead.
@RuckCancer
@RuckCancer 13 сағат бұрын
I’ve gotten so many light strikes with Winchester ammo and that’s with all my handguns from Glock, sig, m&p, stacatto. Switched to cci and haven’t had any issues anymore.
@fa-ajn9881
@fa-ajn9881 Күн бұрын
7k rds through my P. No malfunctions. Replaced my recoil spring preemptively because it was noticeably shorter than the replacements but no malfunctions haha. Cleaned and lubed every 1k.
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
7000 rounds on any gun with no malfunctions (not even ammo related) would be incredible. Glocks can’t even do that when they’re tested in trials. Sooo……. You sure it’s 7000 with nothing at all?
@fa-ajn9881
@fa-ajn9881 Күн бұрын
@ I’m sure because I’ve kind of just been waiting for the day. I tell people it’s the only gun I’ve ever operated where I haven’t even needed to tap rack bang. Aside from zeroing a couple times with different defensive ammo it’s only eaten brass cassed magtech 115gr. It’s not garbage but I personally regard S&B higher etc. I’d say I’ve gotten extremely lucky with Ammo. You should let me show you my gun (check out your awesome range ;p - I’m in middle TN too) so you can see for yourself :) or we can finally get her first malfunction haha. Hope you have a great thanksgiving. Like the political stuff you’ve done with your brother regarding TN. (I fled from communist Illinois Chicago land area).
@mrdark9916
@mrdark9916 Күн бұрын
​@@TREXARMSnah he's full of sh!t he meant 700 honestly. I'd bet on it. 😂
@fa-ajn9881
@fa-ajn9881 Күн бұрын
@@mrdark9916 I shot 1k rds a month before having a kiddo. Haven’t shot in a year now lol.
@fa-ajn9881
@fa-ajn9881 15 сағат бұрын
@@TREXARMSside note. Never watched the whole vid and just now skipped to summary. All my mags regardless of length drop free. I would be very disappointed/ would be a deal breaker if that was the case for me.
@cestmoi3845
@cestmoi3845 Күн бұрын
It would be amazing to see this test with the new variants of the Walther PDP! Would love to see that💪🏼
@Solidous281r6
@Solidous281r6 Күн бұрын
I always find it funny how Ben stoger and now Lucas seem to have issues with with pistols. My first outing with my XC I ran 700 rounds through it without a single failure. I really don’t get it. Went home and cleaned it because I like to clean my firearms because well they are mine. Then on my next outing I ran 1000 rounds though it, again no issues.
@timprivett7015
@timprivett7015 Күн бұрын
The USMS SOG is based where I live. I do biz and know a few personally. The Staccato loaded with 147gr Fed HST is their edc.
@countryboy9546
@countryboy9546 9 сағат бұрын
I heard after the whole fiasco has come to light that they aren’t drop safe, SOG had to give up their Staccatos. Can you confirm?
@Reaper1alpha
@Reaper1alpha Күн бұрын
Winchester 115 probably the gun 😆
@isi12345
@isi12345 Күн бұрын
I shot a Atlas Atermis (according to my friend was a $10000 dollar gun with all the upgrade lol). Then I shot my other friends STI Omni (first XC model). Hands down, the STI Omni shot much better. And I’ve shot STI OMni for a few years now.
@Jay_Spesh_Stay_Fresh
@Jay_Spesh_Stay_Fresh 11 сағат бұрын
“I have 6 gorillian boolets through my Staccato ABC 123 without any issue!” - Every Staccato owner, no matter what Insufferable people. Oh, and don’t come at me with the “poor” bullshit. I have 2 rifles that cost 3.75 of your XCs lol
@IronHorsemen
@IronHorsemen Күн бұрын
Reminder that STI rebranded to Staccato and switched markets after their guns started having consistent enough QC issues from the factory that they were no longer able to sell competition guns at a sustainable rate.
@rubenhernandez3871
@rubenhernandez3871 Күн бұрын
Not surprised Trex arms would find these guns unreliable, especially after they’ve been very open about how they don’t like staccatos 😂
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
The XC seemed to run fine. So that was cool
@Action_Dynamics
@Action_Dynamics Күн бұрын
You guys have to actually clean the gun every 1000 rounds. It's not a glock. I run 2011 a lot. With great power comes great responsibility. So make sure that you clean the gun. Also note that staccato is just an entry into the 2011 space.
@TREXARMS
@TREXARMS Күн бұрын
It still didn’t work when it got wiped and oiled. So… yes but no.
@zacharydorsen4123
@zacharydorsen4123 Күн бұрын
When your hands become tendorized meat by those Staccato grips I too develop glove wearing theories lol
@clutchshot3306
@clutchshot3306 Күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Goldeader
@Goldeader Күн бұрын
Don’t even remotely feel like they are aggressive
@zacharydorsen4123
@zacharydorsen4123 Күн бұрын
​@@Goldeader Brah probably took his V6 mustang to Scheels once to hold a Staccato for 10seconds and doesn't really even rate an opinion on the topic, shoot 2k+ rounds through a handgun and your hands are getting sore regardless of grip textures or gun models
@88mallen5
@88mallen5 Күн бұрын
@@zacharydorsen4123 doesn’t happen with my Glock
@mbenjamin292
@mbenjamin292 Күн бұрын
You hafto be one of the fastest shooters on this planet 👌 👏 great video.
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