I Tested ENDGAME Logitech Upgrades (Console + PC)

[@runthejoules]

I posted the *follow-up to this vid* on my rally/sim channel! kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6OUlK2ti72ladE I compare a PRO sim rig to my upgraded Logitech setup.

[@andrewmaharrey7006]

So weird running into the loam ranger durring my rabbit hole dive into sim racing.... Dude has videos for all of my most expensive hobbies.

[@Jswatt497]

i was thinking the exact same thing

[@snow_bound266]

Ryan, as someone who does sim race on gt7, I highly highly highly recommend using abs set to weak at a minimum. PD did not do brake physics properly and you cannot trail brake with abs off. Weak works best for gr3/4 cars and default works best for road cars. I'd also recommend not wasting more money on those pedals and get proper load cell pedals. You can use an adapter and get the pro pedals to work with your g29. It will be the best money you spend for this and allows for the creation of muscle memory which translates better to real world (have spent years doing track days, auto x and rally x).

[@caliginousmoira8565]

i have to use abs in forza too.... touchy brakes lol

[@Rickk69er]

very good advice abs is a must i also did the true brake upgrades and it works great but after upgrading to the Logitech pro wheel and brake i noticed a big difference

[@wilsonfrancis4572]

"Pro" tip- GT7 is practically undriable w/o ABS at least on default if you want to be competitive.

[@runthejoules]

Agreed. I figured running with zero assists would be the best way to expose just how bad that stock brake pedal is haha

[@kayparody]

bro that is GT Sport LOL

[@runthejoules]

Haha ya... also that.

[@misterpervysage476]

@@runthejoules i do no assists and its possible but not enough to be consistent for more than 3 laps

[@MrSimplicity28]

Only thing I have to say is that the great thing about the higher end sim racing games is that their setting are very in depth. That being said with the original G29 setup you just need to set the max braking distance within the game by pressing the pedal as far as you can then adjusting accordingly. Obviously you're not gonna put it all back together but it is a thing. Being a used set as well there's a chance the original owner "upgraded" the brake stop in it or possibly removed it. May be something to look into with the settings even with the new setup.

[@dustyart580]

To all the peeps saying buy this buy that obviously didn't watch the video to the end where it shows him upgrading to a Simagic set up, save ya comments peeps.. good vid man..

[@kuma_score7536]

feels weird to see someone throw so much time, money and effort on entry level playstation parts for sim racing. I kinda wanna see you partner with a company to try out some different high end sim rigs then build something up with help of dirt fish to get it as close to reality as possible.

[@runthejoules]

Well… that’s exactly what’s happening haha. The new high end rig is already coming together. Can’t wait 👍

[@kuma_score7536]

@@runthejoules ohh man this sounds like it'll be a great video and a fantastic series, talk about making us jealous

[@eldominici3732]

The load cell work great with the G series wheels …. I also have the Acelith mods 🤣

[@willekewk]

It's way cheaper than buying new high end gear when you only have a PlayStation because of the many things that aren't compatible with PlayStation

[@rickyrock94]

Considering that for console there is not much option i think is a great video to see how you can improve a basic set up into something a bit better and slightly more competitive

[@anon_snake_]

Hey here's some cool Logitech upgrades. Next time... *Whips out $1,000+ SimMagic Alpha package* We go harder. 😂

[@VinnyMacPhotography]

Solid upgrades! I have the Trueforoce brakes, paddle shifter ring, and shifter magnets and that alone is already great. I def want the inverted peddle mounts next!

[@MrSamuelDM]

my inverted pedals mount involved removing plastic and blting the metal pedals to a plate i bought from scrapyard for 2 bucks and i screwed it to the wall best thing i ever did couldnt drift after 40 gours inverted pedals i was figuring it out in 20 minutes throttle control is key

[@MrSamuelDM]

i also spaced them more realistic spacing based on my real life first truck ive driven for 15 years

[@IsaacSnyder-s9v]

It’s weird watching your mtb channel for years to now see u do sim racing setups 😂

[@robinkeller7557]

If you want sequential,just put a rubber on the two knobs for clipping your h patern Shifter,and then put the 3 as downshift,and the 4 as upshift. It works pretty well for the amount of work😉

[@sly1024]

I'm just starting to play with GT7 + G29. One free "mod" is you can swap the brake and clutch pedals - I don't have a shifter, so no use for clutch anyway - and take out the rubber dampener from the brake's spring. My brake pedal is on the left now, and works much better. May not be realistic, it's almost as soft as the accelerator.

[@JoseSantos-mi2dw]

it's not that much about realism you kinda need to develop muscle memory and good modulation when using brakes. Having a super soft brake doesn't help any of these things. But hey if it floats your boat go for it

[@filipivan5125]

Man took "You can paint a turd gold and cover it in glitter but it’s still a turd" to the test 😂

[@BLLACKSTTAR]

Reminder that Lando Norris uses a G923 at home. Even with crayon, a person can create a masterpiece. It is about the skill of the user, not the tool being used.

[@xaiokii]

@@BLLACKSTTAR its bc hes sponsored by logitech, before he was, he used the fanatec ecosystem

[@BLLACKSTTAR]

@@xaiokii Okay, now explain to me then why he uses the G923 instead of the Logitech Pro direct drive wheel.

[@xaiokii]

@@BLLACKSTTAR hebdoesnt have a stand, so the g pro would make his desk instabile. plusz he doesnt really use his steering wheel at home, only for quadrant videos.

[@haijin7484]

It’s a turd sure but at the end of the driver it’s all about the driver. Been playing iRacing with a Simagic and I’ve met countless of people who get into podium with a G923.

[@one2tumble]

Your pouring this kind of money into an entry level wheel tells me that you drive a Volvo

[@Reeser17]

Thank you for this video. I have the logitech g923 setup. I made my own racing rig for PC. I have modded my logitech H shifter with G/K Mods. But this was exactly what I was looking for! I just bought the shifter V2 kit from the company and the handbrake off amazon. I play on PC so the hand brake won't be an issue. I'm still holding out for the truebrake pedal mod. I gotta space out my purchases cause of the wife! lololol. But I did invert my pedals a long time ago and upgraded the standard springs. I have them mounted at an angle to a piece of a shelf lol. Hey it works! I have also made my own custom button boxes. DIY modding is the way to go! If you wouldn't mind I would love to send you a pic of my racing setup. Yeah you always see the pros using all these fancy rigs costing who knows what. But being a working person with a fulltime job, family, etc, I love doing my custom stuff that works for me and my budget. Don't care how it looks, or that I'm using an office chair instead of a racing chair. I'm proud of it! Do what works for you! Plus I subscribed. Thanks bud.

[@rachetCD]

Fun fact The stock logitech pedals are adjustable If you take the 2 screws out of each one, there are 3 slots to adjust the position It helps alot

[@runthejoules]

That’s a great tip! Thanks

[@gman8230]

Really looking forward to seeing the next level up. Subscribed just to keep track of this journey!

[@overnightbull]

New sub. Cool video. Great to see available upgrades possible for Logitech. All the best on your pursuit of competitive rally racing.

[@HoboJR4]

have fun with that shifter shearing off and leaving the screw in the logitech shifter arm completely destroying your shifter

[@GiJoe94]

Tbh it's dirt cheap shifter

[@runthejoules]

I mean, that doesn't sound very fun at all...

[@JEWELS2424]

I've been run the jewels on Xbox since 2018. At least you got good taste in hip hop

[@sonyx5332]

I just don't get why there's always someone complaining about another person using a cheaper (less expensive) racing wheel, upgrading parts of it and suggesting a higher expensive racing wheel as if it would make you faster or a better racing driver. You don't need the higher expensive racing wheel to be good at racing online and winning. I think it is similar to someone suggesting an expensive car that is already fast and not upgrading a cheaper (less expensive) car to be as fast or faster. There's plenty of good top racers online with such racing wheel. Let them enjoy upgrading parts for it. I own the Logitech G29 and changed the stock steering wheel to a carbon fiber GT3 style steering wheel because it is lighter than the stock one, FFB feels much better and looks better too. I also upgraded the brake pedal with the TrueBrake kit and I brake better than before. Not long ago I also bought both GT DD Pro and Logitech G Pro racing wheels (with their Load-cell brakes included too) and wasn't that much impressed coming from the Logitech G29 which I still own for playing arcade style racing games on the older console (PS3). The trueforce feedback technology from the Logitech G Pro racing wheel impressed me more.

[@sly1024]

Complaining or blaming is bad. But I did have this though: se spent so much money on the mods, he could have bought a better setup instead. 😂

[@Reaper-cd8yj]

With all the mods he bought I’m 100% sure that it would have been cheaper to buy something 10 times better like a Mosa R5 starter pack or something from Fanatec, with Amazon or eBay shifter and hand break… it’s not a bout bashing him for doing something he wants to do, it’s to spread the information to people considering upgrading or even starting so they know what their options are.

[@SlyNine]

Frame the criticism how ever you want, at the end of the day it's still a low end 2.4nm gear driven base. That's what transfers the feel to your hands. Junk in junk out.

[@KeshenMac]

The Simagic tease at the end!

[@Jpilgrim30]

That Simagic alpha setup is going to blow that Logitech away. I have an Alpha U. It was great when I got it and it has just gotten better and better over time. The haptic pedals are awesome as well.

[@TerranceIzokawa]

Not to be rude, but “professional” rally racer would usually use handbreak to help slow down while helping to do big and wide turns

[@usvck69]

Since I got a H-Shifter (Thrustmaster TH8S), I've had 10x more fun in every game. Most influencal upgrade ever.

[@akimeril]

For the speed and performance on track with logitech wheelbase you need to make it light as possible because ffb motor in that unit is so weak. Every weight you ad in it makes ffb slower and sluggish and it won't make favor in that regard. Other mods looks really good. 👍

[@artem_sky]

My stage times were really improved when I switched from gear switch paddles on a wheel (yes, I played rally with gear switch paddles🤪) to proper sequential gear switch and changed rotation angle from 900 degrees to 540 degrees. Totally recommend it

[@NCLme]

I’m going to try to beat your best time using the old Sim setup…1:24.8 I believe is the track record - loved the upgrades have to try the pedal setup upgrade

[@jimbryant2157]

I too love racing on Laguna Seca, but I ALWAYS screw up the last corner which then obliterates my speed on the Start/Finish straight. I will give your pedal upgrades (I have a g29 for my PC) a good look because the overly sensitive brake pedal is driving me crazy too!

[@KyleHammerquist155]

Brake a the start of the curbing on the right or just past it

[@not4younot4you70]

Good luck on your journey!

[@runthejoules]

Thank you!

[@georqedubyakush6066]

Pro tip for those that have a shifter but no handbrake. I set both paddles as handbrake so no matter where the wheel is in its rotation i can grab a paddle in VR. I very rarely drive anything with a sequential or modern paddles so shifting is never a problem for me. Its so much better than trying to find a button with your finger

[@_snippy]

A helpful tip for the handbrake, there's an adjuster bolt on the back of it that you can use to basically have the sensor not come on.

[@LostFozz_OverLand]

Haha hell ya stoked to find you on here glad to have met you at the Rocky Mountain rally on Sunday!

[@runthejoules]

Good to meet you too! Hope to see you at the next one.

[@daniell4711]

Loam Ranger and sim racing... subbed!

[@TheCesWilliams]

Hi Ryan!! I've missed you on the MTB side of YT, so happy to find you here! We have 3 hobbies in common now mate. I am going to sub to the other channel as well. Best of luck mate

[@runthejoules]

Thanks! Ya if only I could focus on one thing at a time 😂

[@xlxOutlawxlx]

@@runthejoules You know, up I saw your name in the post-race results I was going 'Gods, this guy is so familiar it hurts. But this is a different channel..' Glad to see you here in another fun, money eating but worth it hobby! Good luck on the adventure!

[@roymurray8782]

Hold the phone, what no way! Bro just use some fox ranger gloves ! Aaaaaaaa this guy looks so familiar. There’s definitely a connection to MTB and sim racing. Enjoy man good luck

[@elitesennabubble]

When you switch to PC - get a direct drive wheelbase and Heusinkveld Sprints and make your setup more solid (either by purchasing or making an aluminium profile rig) or modifying your existing rig. You will want a proper racing seat and higher positioning of your wheel. The racing seat is underappreciated as it will help you be more consistent on the brake because you will feel the brake force through your leg and into your back which will push against the seat and you will be able to feel the exact amount of braking force you are using. As your chair has a flexible back you lose this

[@ggpandagod5422]

a tip for you, go into ur display settings in gt7 and turn on wobble type 2 cockpit view for a better feel of the car

[@runthejoules]

I’ll try that! Thanks

[@venturanava1396]

I had that same handbrake setup for my G29 for ps5. It was the only one that was compatible and I must say it worked like a charm!

[@yadielrivera8051]

Do you know if it works with a logitech g923?

[@venturanava1396]

Honestly I am not sure. But I don’t see why it wouldn’t g29 and g923 both have the same connections.

[@Manuel_B.]

hey I had a question. does the wheel plug into the handbrake and then to the PS5? how the handbrake is hooked up is kind of glossed over.

[@venturanava1396]

@@Manuel_B. correct 👍🏼. Wheel plugs into handbrake then into the ps5

[@Nekocha3359]

imagine saying "i turned abs and traction control off" and then forgetting you did all that in the frist corner

[@edjunker]

That Truebrake from AXC was good for like 2sec/ lap on average for me

[@runthejoules]

I believe it!

[@xeekro]

Just a little tip, have the finger you shift with on the pedals att all time för quicker shifts

[@buchnejf]

This was a high quality, informative video. Little long 😉

[@runthejoules]

Haha thanks. And this is the cut down version! 😬😂

[@gkdesigns696]

really well made video, excited to see your simagic experience!

[@jacobcash1563]

I’ve heard from an f1 interview that a good brake pedal should be focused stiff with muscle memory rather than a soft and floaty brake pedal. I guess the stiffer one will better your lap time too since there’s less travel

[@HikiZIMA]

As someone who switch to a Moza R12 3 days ago using g27 pedals and shifter atm. The pedal mod is worth it but for shifter, for a little bit higher price getting a SHH SHIFTER THORN seems to be a better option unless you are limited to console.

[@rabmccudden683]

Llaghaghhhrumpyquim (swears in Welsh) 😂

[@Cit9y]

Thank you for this video, I'm an xbox owner and have just started into the world of sim racing, I've bought the G920 set for a few reasons, first I'm not sure if I'm going to love racing and being on console my options are very limited, if I don't like it resale of my G920 will be pretty straight forward (according to Ebay) also it's relatively in expensive to get started, since buying the set I can say it's great fun, I've bought the truebrake mod and that is a truly game changing mod for the standard pedals, I've watched a few other videos where they swap the springs into the other pedals, Brake spring into throttle, throttle into clutch, discard clutch spring, I'm doing that tonight and will see if it feels better than stock. For me to go DD as a starting point would be far to expensive compared to my £250 investment into the hobby so far.

[@Rickk69er]

You can buy all the upgrades you want, but first, most important thing your seating arrangement. You look like you're sitting in a semi truck Your wheel needs to be in lined up with your chin. Simulate being in race car, or whatever car. There's websites. If you Google it, it will show the measurements of your legs, your body distance from your screen, all that.

[@enorym]

Just wanted to say I subbed and that I have the same handbrake “on my kids sim” that I built. I put some dielectric grease on all the moveable joints and didn’t have the sensor on/off issue after. It just needs to be able to slide back to off position freely. Also thanks I bought the pedal setup that your using it looks sick!🎉

[@airwayintact]

Thanks for the video. I ordered the truebrake kit based on your review.

[@charlie-ol5de]

you gotta push harder in the corners so the springs in the cae ompresses giving you more steering angel.

[@SkarTisu]

Imagine my shock stumbling into this video after having watched tons of Loam Ranger videos. I can’t wait to see how you like the Simagic stuff. I recently jumped from old Logitech stuff to Moza, and the difference is incredible. You’ll want (and really should have) an aluminum profile rig for your new stuff. Getting rid of flex will help with your consistency, and be more like driving a real race car.

[@runthejoules]

Haha surprise! Welcome to one of my 47 KZbin channels... And I definitely agree about the profile rig. It's on its way!

[@SkarTisu]

@@runthejoules your choice of channel name for this is brilliant, by the way!

[@jeremykoch2059]

I feel like it'll make a really big difference when you get a seat out of a salvage yard. I bought one out of a Toyota Celica GT. It came with no power options. So it was very affordable. I mean if you want to get one out of a Bentley with heated seats and electric lumbar etc etc. I'm sure it might cost some more but still that's my best advice and then build the rig. The more real you can get it to feel the better. It's going to be simply put

[@alexrisetter780]

"samir! What are you doing samir, youre braking the car"

[@alexrisetter780]

jkjk just found your channel. Great content!

[@WOTRetro]

funny how most race cars builds are fairly early switching to standing pedals until it is a super budget build, and sim racers switch to hanging pedals.

[@DEFBOY35]

Cheers from another sim racing mountain biker!!

[@catvideoenjoyer]

Hey man just wanted to say that in real life GT3 cars always use TC and ABS and are never driven without it, otherwise I really enjoyed this video as I was this close to buying the Acelith rim but decided against it and went for a entry lvl DD wheel from Fanatec.

[@runthejoules]

That’s exactly why I went for a GT3 car! I wanted the utilize the most difficult setup I could think of in order to properly expose the differences between the stock setup and the modded setup.

[@DavidLee-mx4bh]

Im having goosebump at : 31:15

[@Animate9323]

Hey Joules . Pro Tipp: Choose Cockpit view "TYPE 2" in Settings in GT7 - It makes the Camera attached to the Helmet, not the Car - So you get more movement, Feedback, and Immersion, try it please :)

[@runthejoules]

I don’t even have GT7! This is GT SPORT 🙈

[@basementbanter366]

looks like adding some reinforcement to the stand should be a priority

[@fataldragon69]

"Load Cell" Great in-depth video, it helped me to install mine easily.....Thanks !! On a slightly different note.....Where did you get your 'Sparco Shoes' ??

[@KyleHammerquist155]

One thing I’d suggest which I’m sure you have but watch somebody like tidgneys channel where he does very clear concise track guides on all the tracks in gran tourismo for daily races and time trials. But your be suprised once you know the tracks no matter what class of car the braking markers and acceleration points are usually quite similar . Also most pros run some amount of abs. I hope you have a quiet room too cause my wife always gives me a hard time when I’m up late racing because of the paddle shifter clicks lol

[@4fiHysteria]

I need to know what that AKG mic you're using on your rig setup is! Sounds fantastic, and really perfect for your voice.

[@runthejoules]

Thanks! That's just an old C1000S.

[@Alex-uu7sx]

Informative and very entertaining at the same time. Thanks for sharing . I'm thinking... I also have a G29...( I will get so much trouble from my wife...this would be such a cool project!... what should I do? 🙂) Best regards.

[@Spectre-ed6hr]

You only need a rubber band to turn the Logitech H pattern shifter into a sequential shifter & 2 longer screws to hold the rubber band

[@clmdeprav]

If I may give a tip : you should change your position/chair or raise your wheel, your arms and hands are too low which keeps your elbows too close to your chest, making it generally harder to steer precisely.

[@michaelbolton7477]

Race cars have ABS and Tranction control adjustable on the fly , but nice job 👍, very brave!

[@SebastianAndreiIordache94]

"if only i can get this guys" *Gets him* OOOOOO

[@dav1e479]

a lot of race cars have very good abs , it used to be a thing were in the 90s it wasnt great n abs kickin on would hinder breaking performance n good drivers were quicker than the abs systems , its not like that now abs is heavly used your at a disadvantage now if you dont use it IRL racing, so dont feel guilty use the assists until comfortable is my best advice , also ive got that handbrake but i fitted it to side of seat bent over like a regular car rather than like a modern rally car

[@das_murks]

Try to learn how to master the "scandinavian flick". its a technique to iniate a drift without using the handbrake. I once watched a rallye driver stating, that they don't use the handbrake as often as the viewers might think. How the scandinavian flick works like that: brake an turn the steering wheel a little to the opposite direction the next corner would take you. then release the brake, the weight of the car shifts and you turn the wheel to the corners direction. Done right you're also quicker than a handbrake turn.

[@mtmtb]

just randomly clicked on this, didn't expect it to be the loam ranger lol

[@MarcGaming86]

I use truebrake mod on my g29 great video

[@fradees8172]

Great video man really enjoyed it. One thing i feel you want to start doing is get some thicker socks and drive with those and lose the shoes that gives you so much more feeling with using your paddles. Its going to be so much smoother and you are going to be so much more confident. I really like the setup tho.

[@fate2022]

Great video, I don't even have a gaming system and I was very intrigued. Looks like an very nice setup. I apologize I have a question not related, but what type of Mic are you using at your desk? It looks like an AKG? It sounds amazing. Thanks.

[@justazombie2556]

for awhile when i didnt have a e brake i used the right paddle for the hand brake

[@dudeguy830]

Try doing about half throttle going in and around turns

[@ThatThrowAwayAccount-tz8ly]

Now I just gotta find myself a g29 on marketplace, these upgrades are sick

[@tkdmp5698]

thats the content i was waiting spot on,low end gear is bad when you see how much better proper gear is im waiting for simagic ,hope it comes soon

[@rabmccudden683]

I enjoyed that. Now I want to upgrade my pedals and get a hand brake 😎

[@SJW82]

FairPlay mate. Already loving this. I came into some money after Xmas, and I nearly dropped £1300 on a Moza racing set up…though I bailed on it and got a MTB Instead, as I need to stop being a hermit 😂🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️😂 You have New Subscriber, and looking to see how this rig goes 🙌🏻💪🏻

[@lacedchemist1295]

Cool video. Thanks for sharing

[@meeeeee575]

I got that exact same handbrake and the company sent it too me with a blank pcb. Only way it works now is to have a zip tie on the front, looped over the right thumb stick on an xbox controller

[@ericrapp3248]

I will watch your journey, this will be sick!

[@TheTrigafinga]

Logitech Vs Simagic. it's like comparing stage 1 to Final Boss.

[@thalliumrc3981]

Idk if its in the budget when you get a computer but give a vr headset a try with the racing game of your choice. You would be surprised how much of a difference depth perception can make when trying to hit an apex. Vr is a great training tool.

[@ddddur]

the production quality is actually amazing. pretty surprised you only have that much subs

[@runthejoules]

Thanks! For sub count, if you saw how many videos I put out per year, it would all make sense. 😬😂

[@Hello_human_]

Once you get that pc, try this in vr, you’ll never go back. (Obv vr can be expensive, a quest 2 is probably your best budget bet tho)

[@fr00tloops77]

You got the same wheel stand I had! I just sold mine, that thing was ol’ reliable, for a hunk of metal, it is actually really good. Hope you get as much fun and reliability with it as I did. 😄😁

[@JimmyKnottts]

Assetto Corsa! Assetto Corsa! Assetto Corsa! thats the best sim that will transfer what youve learned over to the real deal

[@AlexSchuerger]

Very Well done video I heavily enjoyed it!

[@redwolf_dane4672]

you can also upgrade the g29 with a bigger power supply and almost double the force feedback, although you might need to fan mod it then so it doesn't catch fire lol

[@jjpython]

Best upgrade you could do is a basic cockpit, I have a playseat evolution, it made a massive difference to my lap times

[@runthejoules]

Can't argue with you there. The crappy office chair on wheels definitely isn't cutting it anymore, especially with a stiffer brake pedal!

[@renzzo70]

@@runthejoules whats a good cheap cockpit

[@willekewk]

​@@renzzo70gt lite pro has a great seat and seating position for the price if you're a budget racer. If you wanna spent more then js commit to trackracer those cockpits are amazing and not too expensive

[@SoyDavidYT]

Of all those mods, the one that most affects how quick you can be is definitely the pedals, cuz you're gonna be more precise and consistent with the braking and acceleration control, which on competition cars that does not have any ABS or TC, is a pretty helpful aspect.

[@packospuds4100]

I feel like you could've bought the logitech pro wheels + the adapter need to use it with your wheel for the same cost. The pro wheel base is 11/10 tbh

[@runthejoules]

I've heard good things! If I wasn't producing this video, I likely only would have installed one or two of these mods at a time. This vid is to show people what's possible with their current setup and what might be worth spending a couple of extra dollars on.

[@willekewk]

Not even close when you can get the g29 for 100 dollars. 100 for acelith wheel, 10 for magnetic padels, 200 for pedal upgrades and then 100 for the shifter do it comes out to 510 dollars compared to 1150 just for the g pro wheel and another 60 for the shifter so around 1210.

[@packospuds4100]

@@willekewk if you would've actually read my comment I was talking about using the cash for pedal upgrade to buy pro pedals that are $350 not the wheel tha is $1000

[@Goodnuggz]

I haven't played my sim rig or GT7 in a while, but if I can suggest an Amazon buy. It's not much. They sell water shoe things that have rubber bottoms, I found the perfect difference between shoes or socks. And a pair of Troy Lee super thin dirt bike gloves. I'll see if I can put links for them in a reply to my comment.

[@oisivete]

Big expenditure of money and energy... I'm sure the gloves would have been enough ! 😅🤪

[@SuminRandom]

I cant lie I just see Ronald McDonald’s foot on the pedals every time you show it.😂 nice vid tho brotha im doin research lol.

[@rowduk]

pretty sick but fir the combined price of the g29 and all the upgrades, you can buy an entry dd wheel-

[@mikelvn5410]

I bought the acelith wheel and gloves also. Wheel was ok but grips were plastic