COACHING A BEGINNER LOGITECH G29 DRIVER! - Sim Racing

[@SuellioAlmeida]

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[@Softserveguy]

Thanks, I am going to check out the guide. I'm not very experienced, I have a g29 as well, and just tried iRacing for the first time. Maybe someday it will be me in one of these videos 🤣

[@DLDS14]

Please do more videos like this where you look at things from a beginner's point of view. The amount of us that are novice far outweigh the experienced drivers. You aren't just helping us shave seconds off of our lap time You're helping us shave months and years off of our rate of progression.

[@MrPlainPizzaGAMING]

Agreed

[@rachelripstra1839]

I'm excited because this is the car I enjoy driving and know this course well. The driver is within a half second of my best time, so we're in the ball park. Might not have the same issues, but I bet there's some overlap.

[@Ser_Nox]

Well said

[@Feeeeeeeelix]

1:45 1:48 1:49

[@kango4633]

Exactly what I thought. I don't need to chase for seconds when I don't understand how the car actually behaves. The exercises in this video are pure gold to learn. Thank you for sharing this session with us !

[@danielregan9010]

That explanation around 5:00-6:00 was excellent! The idea of slightly different turn-in timing equating to very different turning circles was super eye-opening for me

[@ibonitog]

yeah amazing! the circle comparison was a real eye-opener!

[@foxmilletmusic8295]

You are great at identifying the core issues and giving feedback in an inspiring way, but also, how amazing was your student! Very flexible and responsive, not being a slave to his habits, quick to grasp the concepts. Amazing job, both of you!

[@farcydebop]

I have watched thousands of videos here for beginners, and it is the first really useful one which describes clearly what is the problem when you start, and in a practical way.

[@ofnir123]

My respect goes to anyone who tries learning trail braking on the default Logitech pedals, it is NOT easy. Also, the student is one hell of a fast learner. Kudos!

[@OuterHeaven210]

U talking bout that brake pedal

[@donlimbargo5865]

Agree. Get so sick of everyone screaming the equipment dkesnt matter. Braking consistently with the logitech pedals is nearly impossible

[@lalin96]

I've been playing racing games for more than 15 years, just for fun, and never care to learn the concepts of racing. I just found your channel 5 days ago. You motivated me to actually try. Just bought a basic setup, omg. Love your lessons.

[@Manual_Cabbage]

I've been sim racing for 3 years now and this is one of the most helpful videos I've seen so far

[@RamStig]

many people can go fast but very little can "explain". You're the man! I played sim more than 10years, I just know how to "go fast" but each of your explanation kept opening my eyes for more knowledge! Thanks Suellio! your book surely enlighten me!

[@bobdonovan34]

I'm glad you pointed out this is a G29 wheel because I have a $1000 DD setup and I'm making the same mistakes. Things I thought better FF could fix, but I really have to fix them myself.

[@felixisme]

This is the same across all hobbies. It's very easy to want to climb the ladder to the "next" thing. Upgrade your camera to take better photos, upgrade wheel to become better driver, etc. What we often fail to realise is that the way to climb the ladder is not by buying new shoes. It's to use the legs you already have and focus on fundamentals. The strength comes from yourself, not the shoes.

[@tonaslopatak]

Expensive steering wheel and pedals will not make you a good driver. It will only help to improve you driving skill.

[@minisculex3]

pretty much the same thing with drawing art, you could buy a screen tablet that cost $1000, but u wont magically draw better, you still need to learn how to draw lol

[@griffin5734]

@@felixisme Sure but when you don't have any wheel its stupid to waste 260+ on a two decade old logitech wheel tech.

[@Symphoniics]

@@griffin5734I got mine on sale so I’ll be able to resell for the same amount when I’m ready to upgrade 👍

[@Maartwo]

For the newbies in G29s/G920s: it's a good enough wheel for you to be competitive. I recommend you do not remove the stop in the brakes and just calibrate them via game or through Windows. Get a pack of hall effect thingies for the pedals as it's easy to set up and you'll avoid headaches with the potentiometers. If you live in a first world country, you probably can get a load cell mod. When upgrading, if you can only upgrade one thing, get a cockpit or a load cell pedal set first and after that start thinking about upgrading the wheelbase. The key to being competitive is practice practice practice.

[@hanananan443]

Good to know! Thanks for the info cos I'll be starting sim-racing with a G29 or a T150 cos that's all I can afford for now xd I'm pretty sure It'll be a decent step-up since I've been using a controller for quite a while now

[@floatingpeaks4584]

My fastest lap time in the canadian gp track was 1:12:065, with this tutorial I just set a time of 1:11:034. Thanks man.

[@terminusarms113]

Literally just got a G29 for Christmas and got into Assetto Corsa and BeamNG because of it, thank you for these super helpful beginner tips Suellio!

[@quagel6960]

As a beginner as well this video was insanely helpful. Glad i stumbled on your account. Awesome coaching keep up the great work.

[@diysai]

Even for a layman who has no interest in racing, this is extremely insightful.

[@vineh2030]

the explanation you do with the arcs are so simple but so correct at the same time, it amazes me

[@thexrockefeller]

Thank you so much for videos like this!!! I upgraded my sim pedals today and decided to go back to mx-5s to work myself back up to speed but was struggling massively spinning on entry to long sweeping corners. Knowing to induce understeer saved me!!!

[@thatdude2212]

That inducing over and understeer lesson is probably the best way I've seen someone explain how to corner in an MR car, amazing coaching man

[@ojay8699]

Loving all these videos, I'm sure 90% of what you teach translates to other sims but would be cool and helpful to see you do do a video for ACC if that's possible? Thank you and keep up the great content!

[@TTRJoyrider]

This must be the best training video I've seen, nice one 👌

[@clarencefernandez7093]

Before I watched this video, I couldn't really understand why a lot of F1 drivers wanted an oversteery setup. Sure I know that having some oversteer helps with rotation, but I didn't realize that this is HOW you use oversteer properly. This was an amazing video, thank you for this!

[@badkermit180]

I did the drills from the video and WOW did things click! I am having so much more fun now that I understand how to use the oversteer and understeer properly

[@nexus888]

Awesome teaching. Love your videos. Wish you all the best with your racing career :)

[@FirstPolor]

wow, impressive, i really appreciate the patience you show in letting someone mess up over and over until they catch on and push to learn something when confused until they understand. your teaching and processes for learning is just awesome. at some point as i learn and practice more, i absolutely want to do a lesson. i think i could learn so much from 1 or more sessions with you just awesome!!

[@BleedingOath]

quality coaching as usual!

[@mariosenhorini2753]

Mate, this is BY FAR the beast video i've seen about racing techinics. I was absolutely lost, wathcing tons of videos until i fannaly found your channel. Much appreciation!

[@whisperingwellness74]

You're a fantastic teacher! I'm really new too, and when you put the two circles on the corner it was so obvious but seeing it visually made it clear.

[@JKarle]

Wow, just showing the two arcs and the corresponding circle dimensions (~6:10) is such a powerful visual!

[@therealcmplx]

Never knew about that limiter. Now i need to check mine...this could be my issue.

[@one_slow_b0at]

Omg the correcting oversteer with throttle just solved most of my problems, I knew that more throttle puts weight over the rear tires and increases grip but thought once the slide starts any extra throttle will just bring you around more. I'm going to try this when I go for another stock car circuit race where it just wants to spin everywhere.

[@Jonsam1]

Will be watching this over and over again!!

[@85fastlane]

This was fantastic. I appreciate the beginner-friendly coaching. I feel like I have so many leaks to stop that I'm not ready for the more advanced tips until some basics get figured out and more consistent, so this was a great training and exercises to do.

[@jester3265]

This was amazing!!!! Absolutely Amazing!! Thank you and your student for passing on such an essential part of racing. I will definitely be watching this again and again whilst practicing. Thank you.

[@Delimon007]

Let me take notes and see if I can find anything on the intro lap: 1. Can be much more aggressive on turn 2. Use the kurb and hold more speed. There is A LOT of time to be gained here. 2. Is there enough brake bias in the car? I feel like he braked too early in turn 3 which caused him to not hold enough speed. That straight is very, very long so you need to get a good exit here. There shouldn't really be any coasting either. It's brake, trail brake, throttle with only a moments worth of coasting if needed. 3. For the next section he needs to go further right and LOOK at the corner/kurb so he turns where he needs to. I noticed he is not using the kurbs. The kurbs are a part of the track, use them! You need to know the track limits so you can do so in practice to figure them out and abuse those limits every single time. Use all of the track and don't be afraid of the car. Sliding there is natural, you want to use that oversteer to your advantage which allows you to hold more speed on the corner. 4. I noticed on the very next corner that he again, clearly has a glaring issue with braking too early, then not holding enough speed on the corner. He also is still not using the kurbs. This is very bad, too much time wasted. If this was me racing, I would be pissed with my performance doing that lol! Hold more speed, and use the kurbs. 5. After he spun out, I went back and checked his acceleration inputs. This guy doesn't ease onto the throttle at all and normally just completely lifts. That's why he keeps spinning out. Most racers only brake then ease back onto the throttle. The problem is this guys racing style/habits are bad. They need to be reformed from the ground up and he needs to have the basics of racing theory pounded into his head. 1:21 Just look at how long he is off the throttle. These cars LOVE to oversteer when off throttle. You need to brake, apex, hold then hold the throttle. There should be close to zero time from braking to throttling which is why he's spinning. He also needs to be much lighter on the pedal and gradually increase the throttle. Okay so now lets see if I was right. Edit: Never trail braking too much which is the "he's braking too early and his action of braking into throttling has gaps where it shouldn't" part of what I said comes in. Saying that he's a victim of the balance of the car is a perfect way to describe his driving lol! You should understand your car, get comfortable with it, and control the car. Not letting the car control you instead. These are the main issues he is having. Fix the braking and the balance of the car will come with it. Fix the track use / throttling and the rest will follow. Looks like I was right on the money again with this one! Edit #2: Was right on the money again. I instantly noticed he wasn't using all of the track which was causing his problems. He needs to go further right and use ALL of the track. That in itself will help stabilize the car and is VERY important for both the corner and exit speeds of the following corner. Not surprised this is the solution to his problem for this corner :). I noticed pretty quickly that he was simply asking for more than the car needed to give which is a massive loss of time in the top splits. Also, not using the kurbs is killing his arc. Edit #3: What a brilliant way to fix his track usage problem! I just learned something new as a reference point for myself to be more consistent. Though I've never really had a problem with using all of the track since I'm been playing racing games since I was a toddler so well over 2 decades now :). Also, please tell him to use the kurbs, my OCD is acting up watching this 😂. Also yes, he needs to understand that in practice he should be crashing/spinning to find the cars absolute limit then dialing it back. Of course you wouldn't do this IRL, but this is a video game and one of the massive advantages of such, is that you can do so. Edit #4: Hey look, it's just like I said. "Where's the throttle?!?!?" 😂 Now he gets to learn how he shouldn't be coasting as much as he has been. It was clear as day to me that he did not understand that you shouldn't be coasting much in these cars or you will get too much oversteer. For now just fixing this issue should be enough but in reality he's still braking too early though. Edit #5: For his turning late issue, I don't think he realizes that he's not considering the kurb to be a part of the track. It is a part of the track and you should be looking at where you want to go. Doing that alone would solve most of his issue here. He could turn in a bit earlier by looking at the kurb (where he wants to go), hitting it, then exiting out using the next kurb so he doesn't turn too much. Edit #6: Looks like we didn't get to fix his braking issue but everything else was touched on. I think he will become a much, much faster driver now thanks to your help. But he still needs these braking issues to be fixed.

[@dukedegoot]

Came across this video after watching your iRacing beginner guide. Great videos man, thank you.

[@yashahluwalia4522]

Hi Suellio! Thank you for all of these videos that help so much! I am wondering on one thing however. In one of the videos you have made about trail braking, you said to brake slightly into the corner so that there is less understeer. However, in this video, you say to put a little bit throttle. Please clarify if possible.

[@SuellioAlmeida]

different stages of the corner

[@-JackK2412]

Just started sim racing and what you are saying and how you're explaining it, makes so much sense! Brilliant video dude, ya got a sub ❤.

[@SuellioAlmeida]

Welcome aboard!

[@yasserkasbaoui]

This was the most helpfull video i have ever seen ❤❤❤

[@pilkjaer]

This was shockingly useful. Thank you for sharing!

[@Bob-qr4yv]

that was very clear and helpfull

[@Devvodabos]

I have a Logitech g29 and I just got it this video helps thanks suellio

[@switch2086]

That oversteer to understeer just blew my mind. Time to practice.

[@ahmershamsi776]

Hey Suellio, exactly what i need. Thanks, man.

[@braveheart4603]

This is very helpful, I watch all your vids but I'm always especially looking out for the beginner lessons like this that helps me with the basic fundamentals as a beginner myself. Thanks bro.

[@seatslider]

An incredible video. The concept of making the car do something and then learn to correct it. I can now see how valuable your content and methods are. Just awesome! thankyou!

[@shaunster2]

11:00 needs to push that right wheel all the at to that white line. I have a g920 which is the same as this wheel he’s using and throttle control is kind of difficult, but once you get used to it becomes easy. Great session man love to see the Logitech still having great results.

[@MarkGottschoRacing]

Suellio, holy crap, this video was great to watch. I think I need to sign up with you for some 1:1 coaching. I've been plateaued for wayyyy too long. I'll try to finish your course first though :)

[@capgras-er687]

This is really well explained and includes the psychology of why people do this. I was watching the ‘ideal line’ of the first turn at Laguna S and this explains why I understand there.

[@marksutherlandjr.2121]

This is truelly brilliant stuff!! I can't wait to have my laps broke down and find out where I can most effectively practice and grow. ❤

[@airwayintact]

Subscribed and watching (and practicing) all your vids. Thanks for making your content available. Brilliant coaching and comprehensive format.

[@SuellioAlmeida]

Thank you!

[@Vrodis]

@@SuellioAlmeida what game is that?

[@andrereal9040]

I started Iraci g 2 years go with a Thrustnaster 458 spider 😅 I’m still playing with it and I had to learn everything by my self. If I had to start today for sure I’ll hire a couch! Really Great content !!

[@mazmona1]

Been watching so many videos and have learnt more from this than 100s before. Thank you.

[@yannis22666]

What a great video. I really like how you’re guiding and coaching the student. Awesome work.

[@shishidomingo]

21:00 was amazing -- you're a hell of a teacher

[@SimRacing1978]

I can't wait to try this I'm sure I'll need coaching!

[@Cj1985_GT]

I know on GT7, in the Gr.3 Ferrari 458 Italia, on Mount Panorama, in the sharp uphill left, as i ease off the brake, i find myself easing into the throttle before releasing the brake all the way, to control oversteer. And that is what youre teaching here. I HAD NO IDEA!! So i learned that i learned something advanced without being taught. Thats cool. And also on the downhill right left right left right section, i ease the throttle while releasing the brake to control oversteer in a downhill section. It controls the weight transfer SO MUCH BETTER that in online races in my group, I DOMINATE that track. And im no pro by any means.

[@edgarmendoza48]

I've just watched 8 minutes and it has helped me a lot, that's an amazing explanation!

[@AndrewFosterSheff69]

For me, thinking that the tyres only have a certain amount of "function" really helps (comes from track training days on my motorbike), so if you are demanding braking load, you will inevitably lose turning ability and vice versa, so if you are coming into a corner, you need to get "most" of the braking out of the way beforehand (the tyres can't do both at the same time) - regardless of how hard or soft/trailing that braking actually is, it needs to be done so you can then fully use turning function. So I think of it as a slider between the two variables < turning braking > If I need to turn, I need to NOT need to be braking and if I need to be braking, then I need to reduce how much I am turning. Obvs braking could be thought of as "traction generally" cos it's not just braking but also acceleration out of the corner as well, the prime example is how you roll on the throttle as the road opens back up (you are turning less and less so can now use the function for acceleration more and more). And then once all of that is "sorted" in my mind I then also think about settling the car/bike between extremes too ("don't surprise the tyres"), so I am aiming for even weight between front and rear during the actual turn (too much on the front results in understeer in the corner and then during acceleration results in oversteer for example). I am FAR from being a fast driver / rider, but I understand the physics at least. The thing I am struggling with atm is the state of the tyres (pressure and temp rise), I can't work out of it's setup or my aggressiveness or if the aliens do actually start off with way lower pressures and just don't admit it to us plebs.

[@AndrewFosterSheff69]

PS: This was a brill tutorial! Thank you so much! Plenty to go and practise on now :-D

[@AndrewFosterSheff69]

Back the next day and watched again. Great tutorial Suellio. I think I am in that category of doing the same bad thing again and again and it just getting to be a stronger habit!

[@LaurentLaborde]

i gained more than 1s on my favorite track immediatly after watching this video. no joke. "induced oversteer"... of course ! i didn't think of that. it works.

[@ilzee_vk]

A lot of your videos are helpful but out of all I watched this one felt extremely helpful. Ive been racing for a year, maybe year and a half, and the idea of inducing understeer to straighten the car is not something I've seen anyone mention, apart from some of your videos but not as in depth as this one. Unlearnig the countersteer though is going to take time!

[@isaacrista]

Man I feel your like the pieces to the puzzle, I was struggling rotating to much too early, but I didn't know how explain it to myself. It was like an eureka moment lol

[@GaragebuiltOriginal]

Turning down my ffb was the best advice i have gotten for sim racing that made perfect sense.

[@mathewreeve788]

I just got a g920 with the works. Suddenly I forget how to shift during important turns. When to down shift/ brake….. sooo difficult for me. More video like this is greatly helpful. Thank you 🙏

[@mathewreeve788]

@RoadRager2311 299 for the wheel. 49 for the shifter. But with price match from Amazon it was a little cheaper

[@DylanMartinRacing]

I legit raced NASCAR and I still learn stuff from your videos 😂👏🏻 Good job man! 10\10

[@tonyseroka_]

im an experienced driver on the thrustmaster tmx and ive got to B class and almost 3000 irating after 3 months so remember equipment doesnt matter too much, but the driver does.

[@mayonnaise-c4g]

One question, at 7:56 Suellio explains that you shouldn’t use the throttle to correct the slide. While at the end of the video ( 29:17 ) he says that you should catch the slide with the throttle. For me it seems like he changes opinion? Please explain to me if you understand the situation.

[@CaptainCrunch99]

Totally amazing coaching!

[@mattagaijined3448]

I have over 1000 hours combined on ac and acc, this video was still very useful

[@Tillhony]

Great teacher and G92/920 is a great wheel even for more than beginners. A lot of it has to do with the calibration and setup of the game you're playing. And yes it might be a little harder to tell where you are on the brake / throttle on this wheel and its inaccurate but I think you will be doing extremely small corrections when driving a car fast anyway even with a good rig.

[@michaczarnocki181]

from the beginning of thhe video i think the lines are solid overall i dont think he is a bad driver, but on the double left corner he accelerates during the time where he needs to turn. He needs to pupt a brake in 10/15% and turn, then accelerate when he aligns the car somewhat to his exit point

[@justinwelsh7317]

This was amazing. I think this is exactly what I'm struggling with. Thanks for sharing.

[@ppuriochannel]

Wow, you have opened my eyes to racing mechanics that I didn't know existed. I have watched hundreds of videos teaching the basics to beginners, but this is on whole another level. Let me ask you though, if you induce oversteer/understeer on every corner, wouldn't that wear out your tires much faster than just driving on a normal line with maximum grip? I assume that it will make you faster as you will be able to accelerate earlier/harder, but I feel like it wouldn't be feasible on longer races where tire wear matters a lot. Is that not the case?

[@DiecastSmarts]

So. Helpful. Just absolutely incredible how much I needed this

[@lukaszprzeszlowski6698]

You sir, are an excellent teacher!

[@TRiiGGuH]

Thank you! Valuable insight in becoming faster.

[@wolf-xf6hf]

I also play on a g29 and i notice a lot of the same habits of being far less commanding of the car and being far more a victim of the balance than I am when I’m racing irl whether its go karts or my actual car so this was a good video for me

[@joerarey8496]

Liked and subscribed. As a production note, I'd drop the background music. your narrative isnt bolstered by it, you're instruction is pure gold.

[@Pantera.111]

This is amazing! Thank you for this video and all the amazing content you bring. This was very helpful for me since some of these issues are also issues i was having. I like that you help me understand and not just tell me "work on your turns". 😎🙌🏻

[@AlexandruZaitev]

This translates so well to go-karts too👍👍👍

[@LITTLEBRAT775081]

the hardest point for me is the tuning . I could see other people do stuff I could not and thought it was my driving . then as I adjusted I could do the same thing others could .

[@Meerkat000]

Perfect! This is solid content! Just a small thing is your color choices for text notes. Red and purple is hard to read together.

[@nutsoloso]

Finally moving to DD this video drops 😭 As always thanks for everything regardless!! Still very helpful.

[@captaindatsun2659]

Wish I had better equipment rn but I’m still using my g29 from 2019😅 the braking is so annoying compared to friends fanatec that I get to use from time to time

[@VikramSudera]

What a fanatic video. Really enjoyed watching you and your student going through the process. Do you do online tuition to people in the UK i.e myself.

[@PinkiesBrain]

I probably learn more from you in 10 minutes than I would in half a year goin on my own. Especially these counterintutive things that you can only come up with when you understood the dynamics very well is insanely useful for beginners like me. I really tried to get oversteer right and especially to catch the oversteer but I was tryin it with countersteer. I mean sometimes it worked but Its hardly controllable for me. I`ll test tomorrow to try with even more steer and gas. Where could I get a private lesson? I guess I should do your course... Everytime I get a glimpse of the contents - I totally change my point of view...

[@thetechlead1761]

In GT7 I am able consistently to do quali times 1.5-1.8 seconds off the top times on given track using Logi G29. Difficult to progress beyond that, I think main issue are the pedals, and not the wheel itself. It seems very difficult to actually do a trail braking on this G29 brake pedal

[@elliotlake1882]

You are an impressive educator.

[@mislocos8]

Love these videos. It has helped me understand some of my issues. Now I just need to master some trail breaking to help fix my understeer in my f122 game lol

[@MrMiss-cp9bw]

So I'm no racer.. I do play PCARS2 every now again, but strictly time attacks (I enjoy the singleplayer element in it). I do enjoy watching people play iRacing, but I'd never dive into it. This video was an amazing watch! Not only because we got to see a driver improve, but also your feedback, approach and execution was magnificent. Having "trained" (more like baby-sitting) kids in CSGO I notice a fair amount of discrepancy between us. You are a trainer - I was merely there to unlock a door for kids to fool around with a PC for 2½ hours 😂

[@DennisMyersArt]

The misses just got a g29 for gt7 and some prescription lenses for psvr2 . I’m quite exited haven’t used a wheel since ps2 so I suspect it will feel great … other than a deal the support with PlayStation seem good .

[@Rip_Ghoul23]

why the pit crew dressed as spider man

[@leewalker101172]

Sounds so much like my friend GG. Hope he found your coaching helpful.

[@fabionunes5567]

There´s one thing that was missing during the last laps he did. Trailbraking. I use a g29 too, I know its not easy to do those 10, 5% braking, but they are worth mentioning. He coasted a lot during those last laps. The way I learnt the track temperature analysis was the complete inverse, up to a certain point. So the colder the slowest, the warmer the fastest, until the point that the track temperature would make the tyres too hot, but for that you would need to be racing at the middle of the afternoon at Summer, and in desert, like Bahrain, for example

[@zkwalban5288]

I have always heard that the coldest the faster like he mentioned (I guess there is still a minimum temperature needed), but I don't know why, I guess it's related to the engine being better in these conditions but I'm not sure.

[@TimurIskhodzhanov]

I'm skeptical that turning the steering wheel MORE when oversteering is a useful advice (at 20:50). It increases the risk of spinning if the driver panic lifts or if the front tire hits a bump. The only upside I can see is that it heats up the front tires, which makes the car less likely to oversteer in the next couple of corners. Other than the heat, I can't see any reason why it's better than counter-steering. Am I missing something?

[@SuellioAlmeida]

It's mostly an exercise so you can get the dynamics a bit better. I wouldn't try that in real life either!

[@whyilovethemoon]

I've heard that you should actually increase the force feedback towards maximum to prevent clipping on the lower spectrum where the small effects occur. Lowering force feedback on weak wheels will show more of the effects when the forces are high but you actually want to feel the small differences to increase controllability at the limit. What’s your opinion about that?

[@whyilovethemoon]

Source: KZbin: Sim Action Clips - How to Setup the Best Force Feedback Settings for your Steering Wheel in Gran Turismo 7 - Tutorial (04:22)

[@deesautohouse367]

This was amazing advice in one video.

[@b9bot148]

With a G29 it's like driving while your numb because the force feedback is horrible. I had one and spinning was always a thing. Then I got my R5 Moza and it was like night and day. Able to stay on the track most of the time instead of the opposite.

[@GKaag]

wow man I'm learning lot from this video. thanks

[@cocosloan3748]

You are good teacher - no doubt 👍❤

[@facundomanso]

This video is so helpful, thank you!