The future of humanity - McKenna, Abraham, Sheldrake

[@tribebuddha]

Much, much better than talks out of World Economic Forum. This is the real stuff, as they say.

[@shroomsopenminds3623]

Huh? He pretty much echos what the nwo/wef says....terence was either mislead or a complete fraud trickster.

[@haraldthorson9153]

The literally promote the same agenda as the WEF.

[@zap2747]

Indeed

[@MrTim297]

Indeed ​@@zap2747

[@LVXMagick]

This is so prophetically correct. Listening to this in 2021 is even more mind blowing than listening in the early 2000s...really grateful for this. Thank you so much.

[@grizzlywidow]

Still hits hard in 2024 🫡

[@bobsnittle3793]

metaphysics is the branch of philosophy which fine tunes premonition abilities. when you study the very base root of matter, objects, people, and the properties by which comprise those things, you can accurately predict how it would interact with other forms later on. hence the ability to prophesize. and people will think youre crazy when in reality you arent. you just thought about it. this shit isnt a secret anymore. we are spiritual creatures with an innate ability to know these things if we tried.

[@delco2035]

@@bobsnittle3793 here's a good one by Frank Herbert : is the seer looking into a pre-existing hole in the space-time continuum, or is he creating the hole just by his/her will to observe what is to come

[@Digital_Blondie]

Its fascinating listening to Terrence talk about the hope and promise of the internet and the "world wide web" as a tool to empower humanity....flash forward 20 years and the internet has simultaneosly devloped into our greatest tool for freedom and for our enslavvement.

[@learn2bstill412]

I'm here at the edge of the 2025 beginning waiting for the promised change with Trump in office.

[@delco2035]

​@@learn2bstill412imagine typing that in the comment section of a McKeena vid.

[@samirmohapatra8582]

Well said !

[@shane1067]

I am so terribly grateful this dialogue was recorded.

[@BrianPiccardo-c1y]

Yes

[@greenblue6935]

Terrence came across as a fool on this.

[@shane1067]

@@greenblue6935 I disagree, I just think they were speaking a little too esoteric even for him, so he tried to match it.

[@asemic]

:)

[@MrTim297]

What ​@@asemic

[@coastercritic287]

Even though this was posted in 2016, 3/4 of the comments on this video were posted in the past year. Quite exciting stuff

[@HansSchmidtUnfoldingStone]

These guys were smoking the really good stuff! We need more people like them!

[@junglie]

Well rupert didn't smoke at all......

[@sasank6400]

@@jungliehey, idk if you’ve heard about Rupert talking about smoking with Terrance to let thoughts flow easily

[@samwalker8200]

I discovered Terrence for myself at the age of 16 e years ago 2 days after a 9g mushroom trip and he so eloquently and in his mystical way of speaking walked me through my own experience I was flabbergasted amused and frankly blasted away by his personality and use of the english language he has been among my greatest heroes since and forever shall be

[@samwalker8200]

Pre-obsolescent durable goods-meant to fail and meant to last

[@samwalker8200]

"The shamanic flight in a technological mode"

[@BarronBros1822]

The dominator is a part of all of us. Extetnalising it is cleaving to victim conciousness. But these guys were way out on the cutting edge in thr late 80s. Its crazy how ahead.

[@deanmarquezjr9467]

This discussion is pure GOLD I love it! My mind is blown away and my brain is in ecstasy as I listen to the wisdom of these intelligent human beings.

[@mikejones9961]

too bad they're wrong about everything

[@qbox916]

Mike's more thicc dissonance 🍟

[@The_jenn_diagram]

What I wouldn't give to hear Terrence's take on the world today

[@malcolmmcmaster1184]

It's a real shame he passed away isn't it

[@marztar]

You are Terrence. Every human is every human. Except Elephant Man. He was trolling in God mode.

[@da-p6814]

Honestly, I feel like he covered where we are today at 43:32 to 49:00

[@kirstinstrand6292]

@@da-p6814 McKenna was a Visionary; he would only be understood by a few, today - hopefully by now, he would reach many more than knew of him in his day.

[@Fuzzmo147]

Also about image & the need for perfection

[@myriadplanes]

brilliant. I find myself that coming to the end of this discussion the agreed view between audience and the three is of a similar feeling - do your best to act out positive change within your small human lifespan (in the cosmic scale) and we are all going home (death and beyond) so really there is no need to worry. Love your life whilst you can and fight through the darkness for hope of a better day :)

[@deejannemeiurffnicht1791]

Each brick we dovotevour lives building into a better new operating system, whether through profession, community, volunteering, tree planting, feeding the poor, helping the future nomads make low impact shelters, care for the elderly, heal the sick, cheer up a neighbor, and BE the wealth that we truly are! We are THE JOY OF GOD! STEWARDS OF THE EARTH. Let's live like it!

[@kellyhopkins8430]

I would love to hear the thoughts of these great thinkers through the current lense of 2020.

[@ZackLondres]

I think they would just pack up their bags and say "well we tried to help"

[@da-p6814]

@@ZackLondres pretty much, I mean they were already warning us about current events even in this video, what else could they say now except "we told you so, folks"?

[@kirstinstrand6292]

2021...McKenna was the Visionary.

[@adamdavis3240]

This question has hit me so hard lately. I honestly think he would be dissapointed

[@StarDArashi]

Even more so in 2021

[@paulsenkans3401]

I like the phrase "slow apocalypse" from Terence.

[@lucasfoy1344]

Paul Senkans well said

[@greenblue6935]

Life is a slow suicide.

[@powerofmovies687]

Thank you,This is one of the most important videos I have ever seen

[@matoskrzyna3629]

Mom: how's the job search goin'? Me:

[@asemic]

don't feed the war machine

[@nosoloruns]

hehehehehe

[@Rockyzach88]

It's great seeing younger people discover Mckenna. Although I disagree with Mckenna about a lot of things nowadays, he was pivotal to my growing up in my late teens, early/mid 20s. He really allowed for a new route to express my thoughts as some random north texan white man.

[@enlightenedprophetss]

talks like this are worth more than any amount of money.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Fortuitous...

[@fs5775]

Thank god for camcorders back in the 90s, we can keep Terrence with us in perpetuity!

[@parabola8933]

I had my first mushroom trip in 92. A short time later my brother gave me the book, "The Archaic Revival". At 55 years old I still micro dose and talk to trees. Rudolph Steiner, Terrence McKenna and Clif High are how I fall asleep at night. Thank you Mckenna.

[@y04a]

Do you really talk to trees? Ive always had the sense that trees are family. But then again, that was out of necessity. I later became an arborist and have complicated feelings about that.

[@parabola8933]

@@y04a Yes you can talk to trees. I have an Avocado/Orange Orchard with many other fruit trees on it. It starts with thanking a tree for its fruit then choosing a friend tree. If you sit with your back leaning against a tree the branches above you will reach out and touch the heavens. The tree will act as a conduit to the Ether and you can come to understanding many things about yourself. Most of the sages of the past would find themselves sitting this way.

[@y04a]

@@parabola8933 Thank you. I am currently in a city, no longer cutting trees, but when I take a walk to a certain tree here, I always feel better. But it's in public and so I don't spend the amount of time I would like to. I know it grounds my energy and we share life. It means a lot to me to hear someone else genuinely experience this. PS I was born in 1992. I look forward to many more years enjoying friendship with trees and I hope the same for you.

[@johnumair]

Fascinating to hear ideas of Ultra Future in VHS tape with basic audio devices. Even though it is magic in that era but look archaic just 30 years later.

[@mikesoussan]

i cannot believe it has been 30 yrs but the issues discussed are as current as ever ... very little seems to have changed ...

[@Deepfriedchicken66]

Think Well Be Well with Silvia Siret, Oxfordshire 0 seconds ago It's about time that these kind of dialogues of GREAT people are being published and shared. Should have been pushed hard by mainstream journalism 20 years ago and even more so now.

[@Paracelsedor]

Nothing is growing alone. Life is a whole family of shapes, forms, energy being. Energy sharing trhought differents species , you live in a self. The universe of matter is the plan that is our family for a time. We need him and he needs us as many species needs other shapes and forms of energy to survive and evolve to know what the self is trhought the Infinite illusion of the form.We as human , are growing, evolute species in Time and Space and the wisdoms will come from this whole universe, our family.

[@cosmicbackwoods]

spooky to watch in october 2020

[@Sundog1966-s4u]

The Trialogues are amazing, Watch all of them.

[@SebastianPenraeth]

Hi everyone... enabling comments for this video. Play nice!

[@crazyeyedme4685]

You posted this video?

[@SebastianPenraeth]

@@crazyeyedme4685 Yes, on Rupert's behalf.

[@johncennamo9084]

"Los Angeles or London... are sorry symbols of the cities of the heart that we would build if we could" Jeez, that whole soliloquy: Who can turn these thoughts into speech, off the cuff, so elegantly?

[@howardrobinson4938]

Wow. An example of high school stoner talks that progressed unabated into middle age. And with all of the expected concomitant complexification of ideas. Love it. Almost contagious.

[@SmileTribeNetwork]

You missed the point anon, try again.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

The masses will never dematerialize. Need to, but won't.

[@blackbird5634]

One of the defining characteristics of shamanism is transformation and in this way comedians who turn tragedy into comedy are shamans, so too are authors, musicians, artists, and actors. It is the failure to transform and to understand the process of transformation that stagnates ideas in the minds of the military and political among us. And I think it is necessary to explain that we (as humans) do not fully understand the cell's inability to regenerate over time, making each of us mortal and therefore limited. If you drop acid, take DMT or use other mind expanding drugs and/or techniques, you will come to the conclusion that while you are an all-knowing, all-powerful being, you do have to ''come back to earth'' and crawl along your own path like the ants you observe at your feet. Take heart, this is the way. *When Terrance says that society's breakdown is upon us, that we're suffering the apocalypse now, what does he expect? The universe is an un-simultaneously experienced phenomena, it's creating and destroying itself all the time. Whether or not we're paying attention to it.

[@seanivins]

amazing!!

[@AskALibbieist]

Definitely what we need to think about right now.

[@williammccullough5247]

Talking points straight from the Frankfort school and the Club of Rome.

[@jellyfishmachinist]

What said incthis talk evokes the club of rome and perhaps did they steal his words or is there evidence of earlier written or spoken dialogue from club of rime such as this? I know he spoke at esalen so there is a tavistock connection

[@thomasmacginnes100]

i see your point !

[@ofurlong]

At 39:28 Terence refers to a Vienna modeling report....does anyone know what report that is?

[@psoup.42]

Don't watch this before overdosing on dmt, learned this one from experience

[@supergolden.]

advanced visions thank you❤

[@IamValentina66]

Terence is always current.

[@lucasfoy1344]

Valentina McKinley well said

[@sefsufisefsufi5684]

10 years ago i heard his voice for the first time , just as Lucy was greeting me into wonderland and I had no idea this was from the 90's for a whole 3 days of binging on his lectures...

[@samwalker8200]

Terrence is always

[@thriftriffs7526]

so true 2021

[@MichaelOfRohan]

Common sense is always common to intelligent people, and commonality is timeless, so, yeah. I suppose the realization is worth something, though. 🍪

[@aash2009aash]

please can you upload subtitles for it ?

[@GT-vs2fm]

Terrance's ideas about virtual life showed his keen insight on the rise to society living a large portion of their conscious life on cell phones and the internet, perhaps this will be the trend of the future to society living more virtually. Also, his comments about the third world being in an apocalyptic state ring true, which will be played out even more with the future horrors of the climate crisis and their effect on the third world. So, it wasn't as soon as he expected but it will happen within the next two or three coming decades.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Yes, if not sooner, since now half of 2021 is gone.

[@AltonMoore]

He appears here to advocate for violent anarchist revolution and an escape from reality, along with plenty of free sex. These days he would be chastised; my kids spend all of their time on their computers and phones, and we know it's not the great thing that he says it is here. To his credit, this is an earlier appearance, and he seems to mellow somewhat over time if I'm not mistaken.

[@crazyeyedme4685]

@8:17...that was a great comparison.

[@StriclyFD]

2024!

[@williamwesner4268]

Abraham the Father, McKenna the Son, and Sheldrake the Holy Spirit are the archetypal manifestation of the Holy Trinity in the cyber age.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

McKenna understood the reality we are now experiencing. Also, Both Models are in play, currently!

[@kirstinstrand6292]

I'm not Christian.

[@joshbeierschmitt4820]

genius... love this post

[@BillionN5]

Such great expression !!! Me next ! Us next !!

[@sfacets]

12:26 images are not harmful in of themselves - they merely reflect what a person can't see in themselves - they light a fire. This fire separates the subtle from the gross, by allowing (and because media is ubiquitous in today's society) forcing people to look inwards - to face reality, to grow closer to self. It is this process that allows an escape from what would otherwise be stagnation and endless scapegoating. It is a flame that was lit a long time ago, a process we are each born into and undergo.

[@samirmohapatra8582]

Thank you so much Rupert for sharing this gem. Grateful ❤

[@777kokot]

Those words about virus really strikes me down in 2020 lol :D

[@mjhfrc]

is there a transcript out there of this talk

[@ellajones1239]

I don’t know how to reach you out, dear R. Sheldrake… but I literally know one shamanic woman, who consistently sees your morphogenic fields in her practices. I myself even witnessed a field once. Although my personal trips are extremely rare.

[@baTonkaTruck]

“For all the baubles and technology that has been foisted upon us, no real change has been tolerated.” Still true today, on the eve of 2025.

[@gnomelves]

FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE

[@gnomelves]

Timewave Zero 2022 : SINGULARITY

[@geraldpde]

2012 in my mind is the precipice for the end of reality consiousness.

[@thecelt4807]

2012 was the beginning of the awakening to the reality of what we see feel today in the world and the questions we are asking , corruption price rises homelessness etc etc

[@octavioavila6548]

2012 was Terence McKenna and the rest of the New Age being wrong.

[@joekidger]

nearly 30 years old

[@lucasabyayala1034]

@6:49 WTF is that coming up from his left shoulder?

[@qbox916]

Tribble

[@canyonhaverfield2201]

A fly on the wall..

[@blissbrain]

looks like a mirrored metal edge of the curtain. but what is the blood on sheldrakes head?

[@MichaelOfRohan]

Ignorant activism is no less cringy today than it was then... Best without question time, these trialogues.

[@doclime4792]

Surely the person who affects the activist label and the person turning around and saying it's all together useless can find some common ground. They're both counter-revolutonaries and thus they are both cringe 😂

[@dionzevi]

I look foward to the Apocalypse :) It will be poetic!

[@jaydee6017]

I recently got into McKenna’s lectures on KZbin. This vid here is by far the most underwhelming, and steeped in some questionable talking points that too often seem to align with the nefarious aspects of globalism at present. In other talks he is warmer, more generous of spirit, more open, and the ideas more cogent. Perhaps his trickster aspect was more activated when presenting with others, acting as a foil. Of course it’s still interesting to hear from Ralph and Rupert and generally have a record of such talks from this era, the early 90s. If this vid were my first time hearing Terence I likely would have not listened to him any further. I suggest looking elsewhere if this comment resonates with you. His work on alchemy provides food for thought, and I remain tremendously grateful that we have access to archives of his talks…

[@zazee6480]

Restores one’s faith in humanity

[@mindmesh7566]

The Three Wise Men!!!…✌️✌️✌️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😎🤘🙏🌎🌎🌎

[@robbartley3238]

The change happened in 2012, there are more westerners like that, than there was then.

[@limozy]

what is going on behind Terence's head between the curtain. Also happy birthday Terence!

[@RSEFX]

A different mindset might've imagined the impact of the digital technological realm upon all things, as well as how that realm's impact would speed all things up by semi-exponential degrees.

[@MadclintMusic]

well Alexnet was the catalyst for how AI is used today. Maybe it was sophisticated enough to have its own mind.

[@danielash1704]

Lovely and precise on the subject matter of the telluride of Talorical currents and a scientific research study suggests that the density of space is a good place to be in. The world has a potential to make the most important thing's that we've over looked for the world to understand that the densities of the sun created vacuum effects of the density of our world and the continental shelf with the splitting up of the continental shelf's in a way refactoring waves of energy

[@vikavikochka5150]

1:07:23 a vision. Thought about this reality scene

[@phoenixreborn21]

Just as relevant as 30years ago - now even more so

[@LVXMagick]

"Move the rave into the churches..." I think Mr. Crowley was ahead of you on this one Abraham lmao

[@EddyMakes]

Tuning in from 2037...

[@richardc861]

Whilst different men completely, Terence and Bill Gates have similar speaking styles, speed, tone and even the accent is somewhat similar.

[@wizardatmath]

Great point

[@Holy_hand-grenade]

Autism

[@tobyhewlett7588]

3 very enlightened human beings

[@DMTInfinity]

19:40

[@DMTInfinity]

*"Yeah, that's what I have."* *Points At Paper* *"What to do if the end of time is postponed:"* *#lolz*

[@detodounpoco37]

In minute 40:00 COVID-19

[@deejannemeiurffnicht1791]

Each brick we dovote our lives building into a better new operating system, each bwhetheritbof litter we pick up, each hand we shake, through profession, community, volunteering, tree planting, feeding the poor, helping the future nomads make low impact shelters instead of refugees, care for the elderly, heal the sick, cheer up a neighbor, and BE the wealth that we truly are! We are THE JOY OF GOD! STEWARDS OF THE EARTH. Let's live like it!

[@danielash1704]

I have seen old styles of vacuum tubes that Tesla a scientist in history had discovered that plasma was a wave in a domain all over the world and dances around us at fast rated sites and slower in others

[@papapetad]

I love Sheldrake's sense of humour. How he talks about "the discovery of Christopher Columbus by native Americans" and 20 minutes left to come up with a unifying theme for a revolutionary movement. That's hilarious. Humour aside, these trialogues are invaluable. This is the kind of dynamics that can materialize out of psychoactive substance use, a far cry from the establishment's portrayal of drug users. This is truly representative of the potential of the community when the energy is channelled constructively.

[@octavioavila6548]

The world is actually underpopulated. We need more children. Resources are infinite. They are made infinite by increases in efficiency thanks to innovation. We are good, we always have been, we always will be. Have a lot of children, buy a lot of stuff, consume, be happy, and enjoy the age of leisure

[@Devdevbruh]

Absolutely. If the world was really overpopulated then you wouldn't be able to find an empty field anywhere.

[@delco2035]

the world has 8 billion and 90% are as stupid as you cuz state and power likes them so. We don't need one more single individual. Do not buy anything, steal everything, boycott a lot, and do not reproduce until there's signs of change for humanity as a whole. Also try every drug and work against the current paradigm at all times, then and only then you may be both happy and conscious at the same time. Or you can keep being that self rightous ostrich you're larping so well.

[@crazyeyedme4685]

You know what you know, you know?

[@deejannemeiurffnicht1791]

Terrence scoring BINGO! when he arrives at the term "family values", since we now know the brutality and waste of the regime which keeps things thusly in place. Sane stuff.

[@TheSoulBlossom]

11:00 that's what's happening now

[@jellyfishmachinist]

Oversimplified terrence represents and speaks as thesis , abrams as antithesis and rupert as synthesis.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

You missed it.

[@junglie]

oh yeah clear as mud.....

[@dr.elizabethmartin7118]

Gee......Y2K didn't happen, 2012 "event" didn't happen............fun to look back on the absurdity of it all!! LOVE Rupert Sheldrake - THANK-YOU, Kind Sir! (and friends) cheers

[@qbox916]

Dumpfkopalypse now @@

[@blucantrell2]

@@qbox916 😅

[@josephsonoftheuniverse5541]

Blink of an eye , it happened we are all dead

[@haraldthorson9153]

These men certainly are part of a greater agenda.....

[@Amaleksspin]

He was so wise. Our culture morphed into a monster abomination of itself

[@BrianPiccardo-c1y]

What do they say today? Where is this language...

[@lynchburgva8118]

18:50

[@DMTInfinity]

*"Yeah, that's what I have."* *Points At Paper* *"What to do if the end of time is postponed:"* *#lolz*

[@wizardatmath]

One thing I really never liked about Terrance is his fetish for saying the word body as if it had three syllables.

[@jimosborne2]

such a significant observation..so glad you shared your thoughts

[@RSEFX]

Were he alive today, Terrence might be suggesting a future guided by AI-human hybrid attractors weaned on psychedelics, (or possibly just as role models). To me, future dangers---the threats thereof---seem the be the primary motivation for "progress", rather than models of utopian, future "heavens". The rear view mirror approach can only go so far as a guide. A beautiful valley imagined just over the next hill seems a better motivator; a better guide.

[@random.9238]

the eye implant idea is good , but it would detriment your ability to imagine which is integral to the human experiennce.

[@derekf9017]

its the cell phone lad

[@Klara_Cluck]

Did he think that the world would disappear in 2012 ❓

[@Mavericks411991]

I wish McKenna didn't put so much into the 2012 thing..it rely discredits him which is sad.

[@adammurray9028]

Not sure though. Even tho it didn't go into its own wazoo,, (lol) I think something *(novel?!)LOL but subtle and evolutionary did happen,, I think we're just now picking up the pieces maybe? !

[@mungomidge1090]

David Pekkanen No man has a monopoly on wisdom and the truth so you have to make allowances for incredibly deep and creative thinkers like McKenna to sometimes go down the wrong road..

[@dervishosman9599]

One weird idea does not discredit the wealth of his contributions.

[@ruburtoe1]

Apocalypse is rooted in meaning the end and beginning of an epoch/way- of-life, and it's still approximately true

[@BohdanChreptak]

It's not in error if you consider a broader schedule and effect. His mention of "slow apocalypse" hints to this. He theorizes on a transformation, the duration of which is undetermined. As a fan of scale and the fractal, I'm tempted to use the analogy of being sick. Many illnesses are contracted and begin their process long before the body shows the effect.

[@thomasmacginnes100]

they still struggled with the lies in their upbringing, feeling qualified to forecast [our] Revision!

[@kirstinstrand6292]

How far off were they? More accurate than those I've recently heard. Perhaps they have earned the right of their projections from 29 years ago! 🤗☺🤩😁

[@johnscallon4901]

17:34 through 20:00 - this is so funny

[@DigitalSniper18]

@1:11:30 james Cameron’s avatar

[@zpwilde]

Could the 2012 prophecy be wrong and it was meant to be 2021 ??? Look up all the celestial activity happening this year.

[@freyadom8010]

You may be right. It was predicted: 21.12.2012. A more harmonious date would be: 12.02.2021. We’ll soon find out.

[@MrTartuVaim]

Nope

[@DigitalSniper18]

I took psilocybin for the 1st time in 2021. The mayans got the numbers mixed up. Mckenna, psychedelics, ended my world and began another

[@techloidtech2051]

Ik it's probably implied, but it seems weird that none of them suggested living like the Indians who used to use 1000x less resources, rather than cutting the population in half to account for our gluttony xD

[@SmileTribeNetwork]

Because we have to use 1000x more resources to sustain this population level

[@deejannemeiurffnicht1791]

Worth checking out the histories of the everyday people of the main Spanish revolution (CNT), and the Exodus Collective not Luton, England in the 90's, with Pollock Free State of Glasgow, Scotland, to see bright jewels of light.

[@deejannemeiurffnicht1791]

Not Luton? I meant "of Luton"

[@deejannemeiurffnicht1791]

Check out BBC'S Accidental Anarchist, a real life diplomatic guy getting sick of the realisation of the disturbing lies he was expected to tell, mixed what the picture of the world he was experiencing in his extensive world travels candvthe realisationsche came to. And examples of communities which give us direction and hope, tells his own story.

[@danielash1704]

I think we should go with the States of our world together with about everything that isn't going so well considering that there is politically in correctly done thanks for the fish coming to mind setting up the world of politics that fails to make a difference for all people who care about its grasping and reactions from the natural effects of the world.

[@danielash1704]

The sun creates a vacuum of the space that is around us and the densities of the outer limits is densities that is higher-ups in the production of the light of other sun's in a way refactoring the waves of the Talorical current in space has different application for densities to consider

[@robsmors]

Around 46min Terence predicts the future lol.

[@zaubergarden6900]

every word he speaks predicts the future If it has not become apparent it is yet to occur.

[@mannyflores445]

Around 38-40 speaks of virus

[@Young_Caesar101]

2045 is the new date for the Eschaton.

[@depnox]

29:256 Elon must have started listening at this point, as a young man.