Russell Westbrook Is Statistically The Greatest PG Ever!

[@wadingthru]

The most impressive thing is that Russ got the majority of his triple-doubles in a span of 5 years. 147 triple-doubles between 2016-2021

[@ThatsAHandle]

That’s literally what jokic is doing right now

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@ThatsAHandleBig Jokic is a big so you expect the points and rebounds but also the assists?

[@kjjr3270]

​@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m bro he was literally praising Jokic, not hating

[@Supreme36074]

@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mright, he’s gonna have a double double off back, the fact he can see over everyone & catches it at top makes the passing easier. No matter what, it’s more impressive when a smaller player does it .

[@BigShep_01]

Great take....

[@aYouTubeUsername205]

When Russ has a Triple Double, his team wins over 75% of the time.. he is no way padding his stats, he’s doing whatever he can to win.

[@dre27321]

That doesn’t real prove or disprove your point without extra details, since he could’ve gotten those stats while the team already had a significant lead most of the time.

[@joshualewis4991]

It was proven that he got help padding his stats..Steve Adam's gave him rebounds.

[@rjbeats4842]

@@joshualewis4991he averaged one without playing with adam’s maybe his pursuit of the ball

[@toddty11]

@@joshualewis4991just say you hate the man, you don’t have to beat around the bush. We know what’s going on here.

[@toddty11]

@@joshualewis4991you’re disrespecting not only Westbrook but Steven Adams as well. Bro came in boxed out 2 men so Westbrook can get that ball. You sound so dumb saying Adams just leaves the ball there and tells him “come get it” how come the opponent didn’t come get it lmao.

[@aYouTubeUsername205]

His MVP season.. Russ lead the league in PPG, 3rd in APG, top ten in both SPG and TRPG, led the league in 4th quarter PPG, led the league in Clutch Scoring PPG (also top ten in clutch scoring since he’s been in the league), top 5 in Clutch Percentage (was top ten in clutch percentage), and he led the league in player efficiency that year as well…. Averaged a triple double.. The disrespect is wild

[@tol5516]

And then he lost easy 4-1 vs Harden..I don't think he ever had a legendary playoff game, good regular season player tho

[@penkima4923]

@@tol5516 Good regular season player? Russ is statistically the worst regular season player, ever.

[@thomascrowniii1693]

And then they lost in the first round, which has only happened to two league MVP'S in 77 years. And the other MVP it happened to redeemed himself by leading his team to a title.

[@fdbmane4594]

​@@tol5516niggas don't watch basketball bro stop guessing and go watch games you lame af.

[@OldSchoolMinded]

​@penkima4923 you don't know ball at this point 😂

[@ifailatblackops1]

Russ in his prime was money from mid range people seem to forget that. Just adding the fact that he’s a 2x scoring champ and 3x assist leader as well as being a league MVP solidifies his spot as a top 5 pg of all time

[@penkima4923]

Russ has been sub 40 % from midrange throughout his career. That's far from being money.

[@ifailatblackops1]

@@penkima4923so was Kobe let’s not act like that’s isn’t enough to get you 2 scoring titles. Talking like you could do better ho

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@ifailatblackops1But Kobe was a shooting guard. Russ is a point guard so he shouldn’t be taking more shots than the shooting guard.

[@BrianToussaint1]

STOP DROP POP

[@seaniveroni5579]

Combo guard.. bro Russ was never a true point guard lol ​@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m

[@MelindaWeaver-f4p]

James White I watched McDonald's one in real time and thought, "Is this even real?" He was gliding through the air. You guys never cease to bring back official basketball legendary moments.

[@Fatta007]

NBA players say they don't watch other games while playing like that and I believe it hearing these dudes

[@cesarbarbosa8875]

yes!!

[@sonnyqsoul]

Problem is that in this day and age, people are judging him primarily on his ability to shoot the ball versus all of the other things that go into him being a great PG and a great player in general. He's well outta his prime right now, but anyone who doesn't at least have him as a top 5 PG of all time either simply doesn't like him as a player or doesn't really know basketball.

[@yenneferofvengerberg4936]

His Claim to fame is being such a ball hog he could t win with Durant and kd , lol

[@Kddatman]

Not his claim to fame

[@chasenickles260]

Yo Dogg, Westbrook was a terrible leader ......... dude is a high usage ball hog that gotta dominate the ball in order to be effective , which in turn ended up hurting his teamates, more than it helped his teammates... this is the reason why dude hasn't played or won a meaningful playoff series since he was with durant on okc... Westbrook was always a two guard who was masquerading as a point guard, he never learned how to play basketball the right way, hence the reason why his ball iq never developed over the years....... it's more to winning games in basketball than just , the physical aspect of it...... His most successful years was playing with durant and harden as a role player, and once harden left, Westbrook failed with, durant, than failed with Melo and paul george, than failed with Bradley beal, than failed with the new improve mvp Houston rockets james harden, than failed with lebron james and Anthony davis and he is now failing with jokic Lets be serious are you trying to win meaningful games and win a championship or are you just trying to pad your stats for your next big contract One thing I give Westbrook props for, is that he never cheats the game, he always play on 100, hardly ever injured and always play hard even though he necessarily doesn't play smart......... and I as a fan appreciate that more than anything especially seeing how soft and lazy these nba players are now a days.........

[@sonnyqsoul]

@chasenickles260 where do you get that narrative from that he's a terrible leader? The players on his team for all intents and purposes disagree with you, and THOSE are the guys who matter when it comes to talking about his leadership.

[@PennyDisciple]

Or they simply value winning and you don't, so he's in your top 5.

[@bigslimeto6061]

probably the most respectable thing rashad has said all season

[@zorotarded178]

What?

[@XC_STARPGOD]

Ong😂

[@donperez3000]

I swear to you

[@BrainSpillTV]

But he don’t talk stats tho smh

[@nbajay4828]

@@BrainSpillTVexactly that’s why I don’t take bro serious 🤣

[@toddty11]

Literally brings tears to my eyes to hear people talking good about Westbrook. I love that people are starting to recognize him.

[@deathofyear2020]

You trippin

[@lilblast7745]

Settle down 🍉 🍎 🍌 🍰

[@thomascrowniii1693]

Watching him play in the playoffs should have brought tears to your eyes.

[@BobbyJones-s7p]

Gay ash

[@toddty11]

@@BobbyJones-s7p lmao even if I was what is it to you? Internet troll my wife and 2 healthy baby boys disagree with you but whatever comforts you kid.

[@cantbecanceledpodcast]

This the best CONVERSATION they’ve had in a min

[@differentbreed4048]

Rashad rarely has opinions that I agree with.. but his triple double vs double double take made alotta sense

[@jimlil2424]

Exactly!

[@Supreme36074]

He wasn’t speaking from hate. When he does that he’s okay. As long as it’s not about Lebron, Kobe, Jordan he debates with sense. Not feelings.

[@RonaldTungol-j8d]

@@Supreme36074or rookies who are one and domes vs multi year college players

[@dummy999]

Nah its dumb. Dbl-dbl is the standard for a reason. Putting way too much weight in averaging 10 boards. Idc if the bigs let you snag 5 boards down the stretch.. You're not the best PG ever now because you average more rebounds

[@Supreme36074]

@ double doubles are only the standard because a triple double is less probable. He’s Top 5 though gotta have him there.

[@ryanwalsh1987]

Was not expecting a Jose Calderon name drop in this conversation that's for damn sure lmao

[@jrrivera4450]

That Puerto Rican can shoot tho lol

[@Trillest167]

Spain 🇪🇸 raptors OG

[@homesol6685]

Calderón played for 14 years in the league, holding a couple of records

[@evancaro7686]

4:53 the best part is Russ has never been a natural scorer… but then he averaged a 32 point triple double… and people still say it’s stat padding somehow…

[@matt21384]

Let’s talk about the original triple double king Oscar Robertson

[@majorgame2gain239]

Westbrook has more triple double then any player in history. We talking about what’s happening now and something that no one else has done

[@justinrichards6867]

James white McDonald’s one was so classic I watch it in real time like is this even real smh he was gliding in the air literally yall stay bringing back some official basketball classic moments

[@Ginga]

First time I saw him was the ‘05(?) NCAA dunk contest. Real-life sky-walker.

[@mastercrossoverreturns]

That boy was the skinny Lebron 😂 shoutout bro and that headband ⛹🏽‍♂️

[@daviddeguzman2242]

This is the first time that they're not shouting. Wow 😮

[@vashthestampede9269]

Just nice to hear people put Russ in the conversation.

[@penkima4923]

He is the worst athlete ever, so he is interesting.

[@vashthestampede9269]

@@penkima4923 lol okay

[@Riowe]

I stg it is I used to pray for times like this my nigga 🤣💯I be telling young Russ fans they don’t understand 2013/2023 we had to literally hear niggas hate on him for having 35/14/13 shii was crazy 🤣

[@BruvahSulaiman]

@penkima4923 Bronny James exists, so you are just trolling. But you don't need to. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Westbrook.

[@Rodsu]

Russ is a top 5 PG. full stop.

[@Arcanenix]

I’m taking Steph curry, Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson , Jason Kidd over him no problem. Probably Steve Nash too

[@thomascrowniii1693]

You need to just stop.

[@GHOST91141]

​@@Arcanenix🎯💯

[@youngcity4241]

Nahhhhh

[@ssj-rose4572]

Until it’s time to shoot a jumper

[@adazon]

I love this more calm style of reasoned conversation. y'all don't need to yell all the time

[@rdot980]

No yelling when everyone agrees.

[@seansimms6693]

I wonder if Gil knows missed lay ups was the 3 or 4 offensive option for Boston behind Hondo and Cousy and Sam Jones and still averaged about 15 points for his career.

[@kaelinjefferies9267]

He still missed layups; him being the 4th option doesn’t change that

[@noyce.]

George Mikan played for C? Think he corrected himself as he misremember Bill for Mikan

[@g5162]

Fun fact: During the 1988-89 NBA season, Michael Jordan averaged the following stats as the Chicago Bulls' starting point guard over 24 games: 30.4 points per game (PPG), 10.7 assists per game (APG), 9.2 rebounds per game (RPG), and 2.4 steals per game (SPG). During that time he had a streak of 10 tripple doubles in 11 games, and the game he didnt record a tripple double he put up 40 pts

[@landonwrld9994]

Not saying that’s not impressive but how does that compare at all to what Russ has done? These stats literally aren’t even as good as Russ mvp year?

[@HereeizBucketz]

Nah calling bill russell “missed lay ups” is crazy work lmaoo

[@coreythomas3633]

MISSED LAYUPS GOT 5MVPS AND 11 CHIPS..

[@keymusabe7207]

The casualness to what he said though was hilarious

[@livinginadarkworld2808]

@@coreythomas3633wilt betta

[@nbajay4828]

⁠@@coreythomas3633wouldn’t get 5mvps or 11 chips in this era or the 2000s

[@Supreme36074]

43% field goals at 6’9 is diabolical work 😂

[@n4cholas]

One of my favorite players. A locomotive, a metor crashing 1000 miles an hour. Amazing to watch and appreciate such immense energy. He still plays with such heart after 17 years!!!!!! He loves basketball more than I’ll ever understand. But I love it enough to always appreciate him

[@penkima4923]

He fails at everything he does, and because he has high energy, he's able to fail more than anybody in the history of the game.

[@All-Dae-Every-Dae]

Cheryl lowkey look like the Lion from The Wizard of Oz

[@GHOST91141]

🤣🤣

[@og4allen]

Bro cut the negativity out man a strong black woman respect it

[@Shaqashaqtastic]

@@og4allennah he’s not lying. It’s not a diss she legit look like the guy

[@TheColdest97]

Yo 😶 💭😂

[@jessewright8930]

You do know how old she is right? She actually look cute back in the day. She is on mother and grandmother status show some respect loser.

[@1isone]

Not only did he avg a triple double in his MVP year, he also led the league in scoring (while doing that) when Prime Lebron, Prime KD, Prime Steph, Prime Harden, Prime AD, Prime Paul George, Prime Kawhi, Prime Giannis, Prime Kyrie, Prime Wall, Prime Isiah Thomas, Prime Lillard was all in the league. He outscored all of them, while being second in assists where and 8th in rebounds as a 6’3 PG. Even if you call it statpadding, he’s doing it better than all those guys by simply working a little harder than these guys, and i’ve never heard of it being a negative thing to work harder than everybody else.

[@BruvahSulaiman]

@@1isone He led the league in scoring with the highest usage rate in NBA history. No player ever held onto the ball as much as he did. He led the league in shot attempts by +371 shots despite him being an inefficient shooter. He shot the ball excessively in pursuit of the scoring title. He had a 3pt shooter in Jeremy Grant but only gave Grant 1.5 3pt attempts per game.

[@JahlilHasty-b6j]

Fast break airball lay up 😂😂

[@rockhill_e9943]

THANK YOU. Bruh deserves this light.

[@muchlovegambine949]

The Russ disrespect is crazy. He been a scapegoat forever. When it was assured he was the guy when KD left he carried that team. Washington he willed them to a playoff spot. He get a bad rep for being a bad teammate but in my opinion with the exception of the kd debacle he seem like a great teammate. I think the only thing that redeems him in the eyes of the media is a championship and if he win finals mvp he’s in a whole nother league of his own

[@1ajgtwm]

Carrying a team to 1st round bounces isn't going to get glorified but TMac is a HoF player so maybe it is

[@muchlovegambine949]

@@1ajgtwm like he don’t have a finals appearances at 22 under his belt. He just ran across prime lebron 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@1ajgtwm]

@muchlovegambine949 thst was a team effort not a Russ as the dude effort. Let's not act like KD, Harden, and Ibaka weren't there to help get them there

[@shaunfulton1497]

Russell Westbrook Is the greatest point gaurd ever. Don't no one compare to him when he's on a roll.

[@xaviersanchez6224]

enuff said. Thanks for that Gil.

[@toritreadwell119]

Nobody brought up turnovers or offensive efficiency… very important factors when judging PGs

[@daniell5740]

No it isn't lol

[@BruvahSulaiman]

@toritreadwell119 He led the league in turnovers per 100 possessions his MVP year. Led in uncontested rebounds. He was way at the bottom of the league in contesting 3pt shots. D'Andre Jordan contested more. The only 2 players who contested fewer were Gobert and Whiteside. He was sacrificing perimeter defense to get back for the rebounds. Everyone saw this back when it was taking place. Ppl who only watch highlights and look at stats have been trying to make us forget the details of his stats ever since.

[@Cricketesj]

⁠@@daniell5740ya it is that’s why teams don’t want Russ and he’s on a low contract. Kd left him cause he’s a puller with no shot. Not a Russ hater top 10 athlete in the game ever.

[@cameronworsley3249]

These are facts but he also makes up for it in other ways other pgs can’t which is one of things that separates him and that made coaches feel comfortable enough to keep him in the forefront all those years

[@activatebpm]

1:47 Yes. He got an MVP award for it. Is that not credit enough?

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

If you got an MVP in the regular season, we expect you to show us why you were the MVP in the playoffs.

[@activatebpm]

@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 💯

[@shibaarmybrat5749]

Nope every year he averaged a triple double he should've won it

[@activatebpm]

@shibaarmybrat5749 that's not how the MVP award works. It does not always go to the best player, nor does it always go to the best statistical performance that year.

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

@@shibaarmybrat5749 So how did Embiid make his teammate better every year?

[@TheFilmSpace1]

Great conversation

[@colinnixon7739]

He's not because we never said that about Oscar. ..

[@Idkig25]

Thats not a reason clown

[@Supreme36074]

Big O was in the convo for GOAT before Jordan .. it was Wilt , Kareem or Big O for the old heads to be fair. I’m 49, coming up we would praise Mike & they would say Big O scored 30 while averaging a triple double , shit like that or mention Wilts 100 point game .

[@Supreme36074]

He’s gotta be Top 5, had he won a ring , there wouldn’t be a question .

[@lilgeneral218]

“Fastbreak airball layup” Gil you hell for that 😂😂😂😂

[@MICjordanTPR]

This might have been Rashad's best take ever so far on this show and you could tell everybody was rocking with him this time. It was cool to see

[@AndrewMartinez-f8z]

😂😂😂 had to do a double take , Swoopes looking like greg Odom in a wig lol

[@JDOEEE]

Bro just vibe😭

[@jameswyatt4443]

Efficiency is a stat. His shooting splits are shocking. He’s a chucker, there’s a reason certain players don’t win many games when they’re the first option, but they have great numbers.

[@andrewholland853]

I think why he was really the first to do it in such a long time, cause the era of the threes. So you have much more long rebounds, so theres more rebounds for guards in the game now then I would assume ever before. Plus with his hussle and speed he was gettin all them.

[@Supreme36074]

Would be a good take had he done it the past 5 years , weren’t that many 3’s being take as today when he was doing it.

[@BruvahSulaiman]

@andrewholland853 No. Go back and look at old videos breaking down Russ's stat padding. He was at the bottom of the league in contesting 3s because he let his match-up shoot so he could get the rebounds when they missed. He contested fewer 3s than DeAndre Jordan at one point. That makes no sense when a PG is supposed to be playing D on the perimeter. He chased triple doubles. It was proven over and over. Go look up when he blocked Jeremy Grant in game 5 vs. Houston. Grant was on his team. He did not run an offensive scheme. He dribbled the life out of the ball to make 1 pass for an assist. He did not move without the ball to get open or to set screens for other players. If it was time for the number 2 option to Iso, he would stand and wait. You could see him throw his hands up if he made a pass, and his teammate passed to someone else instead of shooting because he wanted the assists. This was all captured on film. At the end of games missing shots on purpose to get extra rebounds. As time moves forward, nobody makes videos about his stat padding anymore, and ppl who love him take advantage of this to reshape the narrative and only give you the stats without the context. No point guards averaged TDs for all these years and even now because allowing your PG to actively chase triple doubles is not a winning strategy. If it were, other teams would have started having their bigs box out for their PGs to get uncontested rebounds. Other teams would have told their PG, don't contest 3s, just get the rebounds. Russ logged the highest single season usage rate in NBA history. The closest player to him in shot attempts for his MVP year was 371 shots behind him. That was not because the team needed it. Most players on the team shot better % than him. He took those shots to chase the scoring title. If he gave 200 of those shots to better shooters, they would have likely won more than 4 playoff games with him as their leader in OKC. 3 years and only 4 playoff wins. The next year, after they replaced him with CP3, it took CP3 1 year to get 3 playoff wins with a worse OKC team.

[@TheFilmSpace1]

Magic and Alvin Robertson were the first scoring guards that were big. They were beast!

[@GGlizz27]

Russ definitely Top 5 PG of all time

[@thomascrowniii1693]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@treyruiz7934]

Hell no

[@colinnixon7739]

Not at all

[@IllMatic97]

You need to leave that dope alone

[@esyde106]

top 10

[@evancaro7686]

12:16 lol his MVP year he averaged 32 11 and 10… 53 pra per game. Yeah, Luka doesn’t sniff that at any point of his career.

[@jarry6849]

If he is statistically the best then he is the best based off of the fact that people say lebron is the goat, because of stats.

[@thomascrowniii1693]

Lebron has WON

[@Wisestomatoe]

Lebron has 4 rings and 4 finals mvps buddy

[@aduhm25]

😂

[@ThxttiesWorld]

Thats why McCants keep saying it that way, We got the sarcasm

[@coreythomas3633]

LEBRON HAD WON CHIPS

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

Magic was a pure point guard where 9 of his 12 years in the league he averaged double digit points and assists so what is Gil talking about?

[@Dillon-ml8if]

Averaging a triple double 3 years in a row is crazy and ppl act like it was normal

[@GA3S_]

Man he was stat padding like a MF 😂😂😂. Running around just taking shit and mugging his own teammates

[@dummy999]

Nah, ppl acting like they don't care you stole defensive rebounds from the bigs to push you over 10..

[@BruvahSulaiman]

@dummy999 he literally blocked his own teammate in a playoff game for a rebound. Shannon Sharpe talked about it all those years ago. Bro was a stat padding hot mess.

[@dussa472]

WB is in my top 10 favorite player for sure but when you thinking of the best PG statistically assist turnover ratio and efficiency are important

[@GeeNoTv19]

We can’t act like the low lights didn’t get crazy lol we all love Russ for him being raw and real but he’s earned some of the criticism with his play especially in LA

[@Juju69654]

You didn't watch the games

[@penkima4923]

@@Juju69654 Russ was so bad, the Lakers made circus acts to get rid of him.

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

Now you have to blame that on Lebron and AD because they wanted Russ over there.

[@seaniveroni5579]

He didn't fit with cry baby ass LeBron James ​@@penkima4923

[@mical2great]

​@@penkima4923made western conference finals soon as russ left😂😂 but keep believing that

[@lilkeexoxo89]

People really down play Russ athleticism when comes to him getting these triple doubles because he’s not media friendly and it’s crazy

[@LukeFX1111]

They love to hate on Russ, mean while Russ has won 73.5 percent of the time in games he's had a triple-doubles in his career.

[@angelatanurdzic7508]

Great podcast, thanks. 👍

[@cruzboy2763]

Stat padding is cool

[@seaniveroni5579]

Bro it's no such thing ...this man was doing it in tight games not garbage time

[@shotarokaneda7525]

I think the one thing international sports have over American sports is that the eye test is taken a lot more seriously. Players like Xavi, Pirlo, Scholes, Iniesta, Zidane, Busquets did not score or assist as much as lampard or gerard but football fans understand that they are better midfielders. They played the role miles better and the teams played better and won far more because of it.

[@Jjmoore221121]

10 rebounds as a guard is actually insane when you think about it. Josh hart gets praised for averaging like 6.

[@mical2great]

Its not when youre goin for it. Most dudes dont

[@PurpleGengar822]

​@@mical2greatso when a guy "goes for" 50 it's not impressive because he went for it? When a guy goes for a record breaking 3 or a game winner it's not impressive because they were "going for it"?

[@dummy999]

@@PurpleGengar822 The bigs letting you grab defensive boards down the stretch so you can get 10 is not the same as a game winning 3, obviously.

[@Bagup34]

Don’t hate on Josh Hart.

[@Bagup34]

@@dummy999Steven Adams or Jokic can’t allow that for anybody else though…. That argument is not well thought out.

[@majorgame2gain239]

200 Triple Doubles is incredible. I knew Westbrook was special when they played Miami in the finals and he outplayed Durant. Glad to see Westbrook finally getting credit for his greatness. 🔥🔥

[@rstekcy7967]

When Gil said” missed layups would have been second” anyone else think Angle Reese ?

[@Antonio-vn5xc]

I'm pretty sure no one is watching this thinking about wnba lol go hate where your people at

[@marcusminter1986]

Nah I thought Caitlyn Clark

[@TheShock03]

They didn't even mention WNBA players. Ya reaching just stop it's annoying at this point

[@Fier07112]

😂😂😂😂

[@kjjr3270]

​@@TheShock03 fr these people be sitting at home and hating on people, cause they be miserable in their life

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

Magic had 138 career triple doubles. Magic had 408 career double doubles.

[@EmperorOctavian]

Russ is one of the greatest Forces ever but the turnovers an efficiency drops him it just does.. y'all can't tell me Russ is better than Rondo All-time..

[@Mister.Patterson]

He’s a better player for sure, but he’s not a better point guard than Rondo

[@elijahwilliams3728]

​@@Mister.Pattersonhe's not even a better player. Rondo had way more natural triple doubles and didn't force anything that needed to be force. Way higher iq

[@Mister.Patterson]

@ definitely higher IQ and MUCH more of a winning player. But Russ is an MVP and was a superstar for OKC. Rondo has never been on that level. That being said I’d definitely pick rondo if I was tryna build a championship contender

[@homebattleoffice5140]

Are you retarded?

[@ifailatblackops1]

Everyone with a brain has Russ higher all time than rondo

[@LegendWest2k]

And you can only really compare players from the same eras. Because while its still "NBA Basketball", the product changes significantly every decade or two. The rules are different, the strategys different, the calls are different. It isnt the same game.

[@bornaseki4195]

If stat padding was an Olympic sport Russ would get gold every time. I mean we have videos where he is stealing rebounds from his teammates and passing wide open shots and passing to a covered man just to try and get the assist. Either way he is still great.

[@wpdmir2155]

U clearly didn’t want him playing

[@jasonnelson6624]

He must be a bad stat padder. Considering all those years he was with kd that would have been easy assist to get but he wouldn't pass or make jump shots 🤣🤣🤣

[@bornaseki4195]

@@jasonnelson6624 That comment was so retarded there is no point in arguing about it

[@masculinitymatters9030]

That would be Bron. Russ was allowed to get the rebound so he could push the ball an put the defense on its heels.

[@ajhenderson41]

"Or they belong at the top of it" before Jordan, and besides Wilt & Kareem the only OTHER person I heard mentioned as the greatest before Kobe and LeBron really established themselves was Big O. Agree with Rashad

[@leandropacheco5393]

Russ it’s the definition that only longevity don’t made you the greatest

[@DannyDoGood]

What? He was averaging a triple double before his 10th season

[@VirgP24]

I Love Gil's Nick Van Excel Jersey

[@JavierLopez-mx6bm]

MJ and magic didn't want triple doubles they wanted to win. That's why they're champions and russ isn't. In OKC he had Steven Adam's purposely not grabbing rebounds so russ can literally stat pad. That's why russ is overrated. That's why russ has 200 triple doubles. That's why russ sees no post season success. He doesn't prioritize winning he prioritizes himself

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

I always wondered how Russ got 10+ rebounds then i started watching him play and realized he’s stealing rebounds from his teammates.

[@Supreme36074]

I think he’s trying to win but only wants the W to come his way, well back then anyway. Some of those series he actually shot KD out of the game ..

[@Lord_D3mi]

75% win percentage when he gets a triple double. Also was in the WCF every yr him and KD were both healthy. So what are you talking about 😂

[@JavierLopez-mx6bm]

@Lord_D3mi he wasn't averaging a triple doubles when he played with KD and those regular season winning percentages never did anything for them in the playoffs. He doesn't play winning basketball bro. Its okay.

[@cult75]

Nobody tried for triple doubles cuz its a bloated stat line. Wins is what mattered, not your teammates letting you get rebounds, and shooting immediately after receiving passes for assists. Its stat padding regardless if your name is Joker.

[@MikeBeltMikeBelt]

It's about HOW he got the triple doubles. High usage rate and stat padding like seeing the bigs let him get the rebound that is skewed. Plus, it did not equate to winning. Screw the regular season. His decision making the the final minutes is still horrible. His playoff history is horrible when the game slows down and defenses can limit his impact. Rubio clowned him in the playoffs. How many teams in how many years now? He's a loser.

[@boatedboat9191]

He clowned Kobe in the playoffs according to your logic he beat dirk tim cp3 yall love bringing up the random dudes who beat him curry got clowned by vanvleet? Jordan got clowned by it? Bron got clowned by Iggy?

[@daniell5740]

Your opinion is horrible lmao

[@cameronhunter7815]

Oscar is the best PG stat wise 25.7 pts 7.5 Reb 9.5 Asst

[@FatherAlexReacts]

Most of us for Westbrook's praise is really lore and not reality. People say he plays hard, only when he has the ball. He doesn't play hard when he doesn't have the ball or on defense. People said he can shoot the mid-range when in reality go look at his numbers, they were below average. He wasn't below average mid-range shooter. People say he was a great finisher when you look at the numbers he wasn't a great finisher. He was a below average finisher in his prime. Bro. This guy's fan base is filled with fantasy and not reality because of the flash and the highlights

[@jessewright8930]

Man this generation don’t care about reality. Look at the Tyson-Paul fight people rather say it’s fake them just saying Mike too old. Hell look at the elections they tried to make us believe Biden was able to run even though we saw him show huge signs of dementia and the Harris supporters just act like they didn’t just try to play in they face.

[@penkima4923]

"People say he plays hard, only when he has the ball." He also fights his teammates over rebounds extremely hard to pad his stats.

[@tone7142]

@@penkima4923so why every teammate loved playing with him? Yaw jus be talkin

[@tone7142]

You wrote a whole paragraph to hate but never did shit In yo own life think about that bro

[@robertlewid8528]

Well how does he get rebounds like he does if he don't play hard without the ball you dum* hating Azz MFER?

[@jameelharrigan6041]

Y'all need to put the amount of offensive rebounds into consideration. He does work har for his rebounds

[@davidlamar2806]

If lebron is the best cuz of stats. Why isnt Westbrook? I feel people pick and choose when to use the stats argument.

[@coreythomas3633]

LEBRON HAS 4 RINGS AND 4FMVPS THAT THE DIFFERENCE...

[@vroomvroom6325]

@@coreythomas3633all from superteams, meaningless accolades

[@PennyDisciple]

Lebron has won. And Westbrook played with two other league MVP's and still didn't win.

[@davidlamar2806]

@@coreythomas3633but players like Jordan, Kareem, bill and wilt. Have better stats and won more than lebron aren’t called the goat. That’s why I said people pick and choose when to use stats

[@coreythomas3633]

@davidlamar2806 Mj LOST GOT SWEPT IN 95 comimg back from retirement. He quit to baseball aka QUITER. MJ 1-9 without Scottie,below 500 without Scottie and phill. He not a better scorer than lebron. Kobe played 20 year's too. C'mon ya, MJ DEFENSE IS OVERRATED. Who did he guard that better than steph,klay,kd,KWAHI gainnis c'mon ya have no real argument. Mj DOESN'T HAVE THE MOST RINGS. KAREEM got 6 been to more finals. He better bill Russel has 11 rings. Lost when he hurt his ankle . so BILL RUSSEL 12 0 IN THE FINALS. Stop it ya. Lebron the GOAT it lame to bash and be feminine because you hate LEBRON. 😂..

[@brooklynblack9015]

Kyrie is way better than Westbrook smh 🤦🏿‍♂️ 😂

[@lani7475]

Stop that.

[@lamabeanz1447]

Skill wise of course

[@HoopsRaccoon]

better at what? Scoring? It ends there fr

[@larryf9671]

Are we talking team ball or 1v1🤔

[@ayjeemusic4528]

@@HoopsRaccoondefinitely ball handling as well

[@stingabee123]

Russ proved that triple doubles are overrated. Efficiency matters more. Russ is no where near the greatest pg just because his stats are

[@teezy9790]

Russ isn’t a considered at top 5 pg of all time because we have eyes 😂😂😂. Everybody knows he’s a generational athlete with bozo tendencies. 1st half of his career it was all about scoring because he wanted to keep up with Kd . Once he discovered how easy the triple double was that’s all he cared about . He can’t be the best or even the 2nd best player on a championship team sorry but true

[@ClarenceBeeks64]

KD got 4 scoring titles with Westbrook as a teammate you're talking nonsense. 😂

[@Youvsyou206]

Not easy getting a triple double he just made it look easy

[@Normanwhatever-p2b]

KD said that it's hard to do even if you aim for it every game. You got eyes but your blind.

[@teezy9790]

@@ClarenceBeeks64 cmon bruh. Let’s not act like Russ and Kd . We’re like Stockton and Malone or Nash and stoudemire. They ran a your turn my turn offense down in okc. And you know it. People wanted harden to start and run the point when he was down in okc because Russ was terrible at running the show Plus it’s Kd we’re talking about He could play on the dream team and still find a way to get his 20 ppg 😂

[@teezy9790]

@@Normanwhatever-p2b there’s like 6 guys the could average trip doub if the wanted today. Giannis, luka, Jokic, hell even senior citizen lebron just coming off 4 in a row. But sure it’s not easy 😂

[@corbinmacklin185]

Wilt is my goat bc in any conversation about someone doing something historic statistically, you hear something ridiculous like "if they counted blocks he'd have had 700 quadruple doubles"

[@thomascrowniii1693]

The key word is STATISTICALLY. Because Westbrook is only a top 5 point guard if winning doesn't matter to you and you're able to explain away the FACT that every star player he's ever played with has been more successful playing with a point guard NOT named Westbrook.

[@ThxttiesWorld]

Cap Chris Paul James Harden Devin Booker. Bunch of top guards have not won a championship just like westbrook

[@Fier07112]

⁠@@ThxttiesWorldhe said point guards Brotha lol

[@sammyslam1]

Russ is one of the best pg's to ever play the game and he played during the same period as James Harden, Chris Paul, and Mike Conley. Sorry but i don't consider Steph a point guard. I have him more in the shooting guard vein because during his dynastic run, Draymond Green has been the player running and controlling The Warrior offense. I have Magic, Isiah, and Stockton as the top 3 point guards. A strong argument can be made for either J Kidd, CP3, Russ, and Harden as #4 Personally i like Russ at #4 but i am biased towards his overall game.

[@ThxttiesWorld]

@@Fier07112 Chris Paul James harden Devin Booker , are you high ? 🫠

[@PennyDisciple]

​@@ThxttiesWorldHe said point guards genius...

[@BruvahSulaiman]

Look up a video from 7 years ago. Westbrook blocks his own teamate to get rebound. Game 5 against the Rockets. The whole sequence shows why they lost the series 1-4. Russ shot 18 3s that game and made 27% of them. He could not bring himself to give Jeremy Grant more than 3 opportunities from 3. Then he blocks Grant's put back attempt, then he drives on 2 defenders while Grant is wide open under the basket and misses a layup. It was hilarious watching it live back then and it's hilarious watching it now.

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

Russell Westbrook is a great but he ain’t the best pg. He’s not better than these guys I’m gonna name curry Cp3 rondo Nash Kidd Magic Stockton Oscar Robertson Isaiah Thomas Zeke Kyrie Irving d rose

[@nuhnani2320]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dvonnlynch1607]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

@@nuhnani2320 okay

[@edwardkimakaballislifekim_578]

@@dvonnlynch1607 okay

[@yungwes20]

Rondo. Cp3. Oscar lol (who you never saw play) Zeke lol. Go take a nap. He also does more than Kyrie and zeke and he was overall better than rose. Again take a nap. Oscar Robertson lol. Have you seen his slow mo highlights. Nash Kidd 😂😂😂

[@Zulu-Lemon]

If he was the greatest he would’ve dominated with kd, Bron, AD, Beal and harden. No way you’re the GOAT and can’t win with multiple greats.

[@realtalkrelationshipmindse2402]

I get it, which will you prefer, a system pg or an athletic pg? same great players. for me it boils down to winning and championships because that's the ultimate goal. just my opinion.

[@eloquenceiskey]

When he is not smoking layups he is unstoppable

[@justinrichards6867]

McCants shirt fire when yall comin to the A…idk y yall not campaigning for the new inside on nba cuz yall bringing the best guest and saying best commentary

[@Fier07112]

I love Russ! But if we are STRICTLY doing a google search… on stats….. then YES he is top 5 PG all time! 200 Trip dubs is crazy work for sure! But it’s a lot of things (and PGs) that can be debated for top 5 PGs all time. Feels like a lot of ppl who didn’t have Russ top 5. Soon as he hit 200 now ppl like what? Nah Top 5 😂 Ppl be only interested in raw basketball reference stats lol!

[@alexmontano445]

All the beat McCain catches but he’s honestly very well spoken.

[@asongurichardson4228]

La native honoring and doing good.Newyork native giving props.

[@tonyochiha9798]

I'm a 90s and 2010s basketball era fan but this era is OVERLOADED with talent: So much so that a player like Russel Westbrook, who has 200 triple doubles and had multiple years with triple double full seasons, is trolled and look down upon as a scrub by a lot of fans in this era.

[@danas916x]

It's what Gil said... When he has a bad game it's usually REALLY BAD and that's what people hold on to. Nowadays the Internet puts together his Lowlight reels and they are hilarious. But the man deserves his respect for his contributions

[@DrugzMunny]

If the only statistic you're looking at is triple doubles, then sure. If you're looking at All-Defensive selections, MVP's, rings, Finals MVP's, All-NBA selections, etc... I'd say Magic, Curry, CP3, Stockton, Payton, Kidd, Robertson, Parker, Westbrook. Although, Parker is getting a lot of ring help from playing with some other greats, so he's gotta be worse than Westbrook.

[@queyoung6597]

My issue is with terminology. There's best and there's greatest. If you simply go by stats that doesn't determine who's the greatest, because greatness is determined by more than just stats. If you simply go by stats I think that better determines who's considered the best.

[@jamalwalker04]

If we went by just baseline stats then Wilt is the undisputed goat that's why advanced stats were created that's why can't go by just one measurement to determine a great seas

[@queyoung6597]

@ Agreed. And greatness is also determined by other things like chips, MVPs, and individual accolades.

[@mackmal2413]

Top 5 PG No Order 1. Russ 2. Magic 3. Kyrie 4. Curry 5. Isaiah

[@noyce.]

It's also "harder" to play in this media era (mentality), everything is scrutinized. You do 1 good thing, media gonna find 10 bad things to counter it for clicks. Negativity sells. A good % of nba fans probably sees Westbrook for his "Westbrick", his "Hero-Ball the team out of playoff" & his side backboard three, his miss wide open layups etc. Humans usually only remember the bad things, + him vs Harden with the trip dub war for MVP somehow made it "less impressive". Also because they both weren't winning chips with it so psychologically people deem it as empty stats. Are why Russ gets so many hate, and honestly I truly believe the major reason is WESTBROOK FANS. They go extremely crazy on every posts etc. Every season we get a "oh this is the best westbrook this year, finally a team that utilize him properly", literally EVERY season. Trio OKC -> Duo OKC -> Solo OKC -> Rockets -> Wiz -> Lakers -> Clips -> and now Denver Any NBA page will literally post anything if ANY player shot horribly, WB fans will go "OH WHY YOU GUYS ALWAYS HATING ON HIM" "WHY IS IT ALWAYS WESTBROOK" etc. where the same page could be posting like Tony Snell cardio games, Klay shooting etc. His fans always over glaze him, 12/14/10 on 41.7% and they'll be like he's the second coming of Jesus or something and immediately sh*t on all the previous teams not utilizing him. While not realizing just games before he's putting up 6pts 6pts 5pts Thank you for coming to my TedYapTalk

[@cosmicedi]

I don’t agree that people chalk Russ triple doubles as easy, because his elite engine and will are almost always referenced. The problem is that when most people think of Russ they think of so many inexplicably bad plays, especially in recent years. The bad plays and inefficiency overshadow his triple doubles.

[@wayneaiello]

The comments by the guy in the Laker’s jersey did not age well after Russell torched the Laker’s last night. Westbrook is killing it with the Nuggets.

[@jacobim94]

If the stats ever gets sophisticated enough to count how many points Steve makes from his gravity alone of people chasing him I think he would easily have generated the most points out of any NBA player ever

[@fivefour5514]

Exactly statistically he’s the greatest pg & that’s why we shouldn’t use stats in goat arguments

[@ElShermo]

This show is cool asf fr man!😅😅

[@Lord_D3mi]

People really forget when bringing up Russ playoff history that when him and KD were both healthy they always were in the WCF. And had Harden not disappeared in the finals they'd probably have a ring.

[@HotGritz910]

Chips will always be a top factor for me when determining the best...if it was all stats, then Wilt is the best ever, and it's not even close... wilt one game had. 53pt 25 rebs 14 blocks, 11 ast and 10 steals...

[@JonesWorld-f5n]

He's definitely up there for sure, can't take that away from him

[@emuss2760]

Russ is all-time: No.1 in triple doubles Top 10 in assists Top 25 in points and steals Statistically speaking…he’s the best PG of all time. No cap 🧢

[@kronixx_xx2502]

Russ had 20/20/20 in a game. Avg 4triple dubs in a row! Ya'll gotta respect the work he put in.

[@CoachE1919]

Shad got a point!!! Ive been saying the same thing for years. People sleepin on Russ' greatness.