Can Reallusion Do It Better?! Cleaning Up AI Motion in iClone 8!

[@Kinos141]

Most go into mocap knowing they're going to have to clean up the raw animations later. No mocap animation is perfect without some clean up.

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah very true, always some manual adjustments!

[@mythmakertheanimator9912]

Dude, your depth shows, pure info, zero rambling, 101% what those who can truly appreciate iclone (intermediate-advance rigger/ animators) are looking for when they click on this video. Keep up the good work, look forward to similar theme videos of yours!

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks so much Mythmaker! I'm glad it helped! Yeah iClone can do some pretty amazing stuff!

[@SkyHandOneTen]

Bro this was extremely helpful, like the best video on iClone8 I've seen. You actually tackled the most needed editing features. Way to go and thanks.

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks man! I'm glad it helped! Hoping to do more detailed in-depth stuff soon!

[@JoshuaYoung2]

Wow. This guy is perfect. How many videos are un-chaptered, unscripted, take forever to get to the point, show mistakes the host makes.....Please keep it up. This channel will blow up with success in time! My only "but" is, I don't remember you mentioning that this is only for PC and Mac users can't use it, which is a huge, huge bummer for me.

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks Joshua! Oh gosh sorry about that, you're right, I didn't consider the Mac side of things, I'll try and remember to mention that at the start of my videos going forward!

[@WesleySales1]

I bought Iclone last month and didn't know about all these possibilities, thanks for the video! I'm going to use it in a project next month, exactly with Plask! 😀

[@RussellMidfield]

Nice! Yeah the Plask-iClone combo works really nicely! When you're done gimme a shout I'd love to see it!

[@BlenderArt]

A good video as always thank you Russell🙋‍

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks man! These were fun to make!

[@slick2024]

how much do you charge for a dance custom 3d video of me dancing in 3d animation? i messaged you on Instagram

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks for reaching out Tarrence! Oh gosh I'm not sure, I've never done something like that before! With some of the free mo-cap programs you could probably do it for free yourself!

[@tomcreektomoyaogawa4358]

dang, that was just amazing. animation clean up is such a pain process for me so Icone seems like a life saver haha. user-friendly and easy to use tools, fantastic. Loving the new Iclone contents man!

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks Tomoya! Yeah, the cleanup process is super easy and quick, it's awesome. I didn't think it would be as easy as it was. I thought the AI actually did a really good job, and it wasn't until we did the cleanup that I realized how much better it looked. Thanks man!

[@harlethan5748]

Wish we could see more videos from you! Your videos taught me blender from the ground up

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks harlethan! Yeah I really enjoy making videos but alas, life gets in the way sometimes haha. Maybe one day I'll get going again! Thanks again!

[@christhomas9177]

Is anyone else having this issue, I export my animation and character from Plask as fbx, I import into Iclone8, the animation runs fine etc.. but it will not allow me edit motion layers, it's blanked out ? have tried multiple options but still won't let me??

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh weird, I'll have to test that out and get back to you! Hopefully someone can chime in here.

[@christhomas9177]

@@RussellMidfield Thanks would really appreciate that, i tried messaging you on discord but I can't find you lol

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah no worries! Oh really haha, yeah you can just message here it's fine!

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah weird! Hopefully I can find something for you!

[@christhomas9177]

I got it sorted thx

[@Amelia_PC]

Awesome! But for those who don't have the means to purchase a Reallusion license (licenseS, a lot of them), Cascadeur (free) got a recent update with some cool tools to tidy up mocap, whether AI-powered or not, and even its own video-to-mocap system. Just saying. Sure, Reallusion licenses are worth it if you've got the cash to splash, but when money's tight and times are tough, it's nice to have legal alternatives to explore. I'd love to buy a ton of Reallusion licenses given the opportunity.

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh nice, Cascadeur sounds amazing! Great to see there are so many free options out there!

[@ingtkplus]

deepmotion is better and it is free

[@RussellMidfield]

It's true, Deepmotion is awesome

[@ingtkplus]

my creation with clay

[@baldblenderbud]

either the ai is bad but that squat posture will blowout your lower back

[@RussellMidfield]

It's true good point

[@TubebotGaming]

Full time job huh .... oh well I wish you luck bud! Its sux that the 9 part unity game character has been compromised but if you feel like completing it then ❤

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha thanks man! Haha yeah maybe one day!

[@carlosedubarreto]

ow, I didnt know that iclone was this powerful. thanks for the info

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha yeah it's got some oomph under the hood, it's great.

[@rodames1089]

Congratulations... you make the most direct, quick, clear explanation tutorials on youtube... wish you the best!

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks Ro! I'm glad they help!

[@augustababeta]

I spent about 3 days trying to get the motion from deep motion and wonder studios into here and failed miserably!

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh darn that sucks! Yeah it can be tough!

[@revenger681]

Straight to the point, quick and exact. Thanks for this! I am a complete iclone noob on my 2nd, going on 3rd week. I've spent hours per day going through the official tutorials and looking at other sources. I like how you're quicker and more precise.

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks revenger! Yeah I try and get to the point quickly most of the time haha, I'm glad it helped!

[@b00y00]

awesome.... how do I open the Edit Motion Layer?

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks! Select the charactet and then click on Modify > Animation > Edit Motion Layer.

[@manmachinemusic]

Hats off to you for this excellent tutorial. Foot sliding and other various undesirable motion issues are a thing of the past for me now in ic8.🖥

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks manmachine! Yeah it's true, iC8's system makes it so easy to fix it, like two clicks and your done.

[@onlyvitalnetworks2994]

Yes!! .. Yes!! exactly what i need to learn!

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha nice! I hope it helped!

[@DanArt28]

How I missed your channel! You are very good at working with 3D graphics! Of course, we have been talking about this for a long time, but have you still not managed to make a video and a supercell make? I would really like to see him🥺🥺

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah maybe one day!

[@DanArt28]

@@RussellMidfield I'm really looking forward to this video🥺🥹

[@alperisler89]

maybe you can also do a comparison video of Cascadeur and iClone 8?

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh yeah that's a good idea, I'll look into that thanks!

[@augustababeta]

advice is welcome - I'd love to be able to use these tools!

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah there is a little bit of a learning curve for sure, I should probably make a more detailed video one day but it's so tough to find the time and energy!

[@brightsey7580]

deeemmm you are great. thanks a bunch nigga

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha yeah no worries Sey! I'm glad it helped!

[@geoffhecht]

Great video! If the Motion Correction feature is greyed out, do you know the reason? Can't find an answer online.

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks Geoff! Oh gosh I can't remember right now sorry, I'll have to take a peek sometime soon.

[@geoffhecht]

​@@RussellMidfield most appreciated! Only other thing I ran into following along was at first I couldn't figure out how to smooth out the motion capture data. By default iClone puts you on an animation layer, so I had to just click on the "Base Motion" layer. Seemed obvious once I figured that out, but was scratching my head for a while trying to figure out how you were able to smooth the data and I wasn't.

[@bookbook5117]

How to remove the watermark in iclone 8 ؟

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh I'm not sure sorry!

[@augustababeta]

Can you combine approach one and two?

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah for sure!

[@Sky-hl8iw]

solid essential tutorial 4 anims tq4this

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks Sky! I'm glad it helped!

[@idanvfx_studio]

great tutorial- thank you

[@RussellMidfield]

You're welcome idan! I'm glad if it helped!

[@taportnaya2136]

Why did you stop making videos? You are a perfect KZbinr?!I just found you and feel so bad you are not active any more

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha lol thanks Ta! Yeah it sucks, i work full time so it's hard to find the time and energy to make videos! Maybe one day!

[@taportnaya2136]

@@RussellMidfield 😄ok I subbed and will be waiting

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha lol oh no the pressure is on! 😅

[@infotoons212]

I was keyframing in blender. I was happy. I was content. Now I have to buy over $1,000 worth of software and it's all your fault! 😡(🤪)

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha 😄 ignorance is bliss as they say 🤣

[@KindTom1]

THIS IS THE BEST TUTORIAL. THANK YOU

[@RussellMidfield]

You're welcome KindTom! I'm glad if it helped!

[@philippeheritier9364]

It helped a lot many thanks

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah no worries Phillipe! I'm glad it did!

[@rickwhite1958]

WHOO !!! Two new uploads from Russell Midfield makes this an awesome week for me.

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha yeah I was a busy bee this week!

[@XanderDavis]

I’m testing out getting a Plask generated animation into iClone 8 to apply to a character I made in Character Creator earlier. So far, I can’t figure this out. The exported FBX from Plask imports as an animation clip instead of Motion layers. I tried exporting a Motion Clip and dragging that onto the CC character and it said it was incompatible. Any tips for how to get this to work? I want to do this so I can then apply facial mocap from iPhone in iClone to my CC character with the Plask body anim and finally retire my janky Rokoko suit once and for all.

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh weird, I'll have to test it out and get back to you!

[@ashokt7947]

Hi Russel, Excellent video as always! Wanted to say a big thank you to you. Also, i have a query and would appreciate any help. 1. After we import an FBX from Plesk to CC4 or iClone 8, i observe that this animation works fine. 2. However, the issue is when we try to capture the motion using CollectClip. We save the motion using CollectClip and when we apply this motion on an Iclone Character, it does not work and gives the error : "Cannot apply motion: Invalid File or Character not compatible" 3. I have iClone 8 and not 7 and i saw that without 3dXchange, the above sequence is not possible. I dont want to use a cracked version of 3dXchange and dont know how to find an original copy. 4. Would you please advise if there is a way to solve the circuit from Plesk to iClone8. Thank you in advance.

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks Ashok! Oh gosh I haven't tried using CollectClip yet sorry, I'm not sure how the two interact properly, but I'll try and test it out soon and let you know if I find anything!

[@Mostach89]

Thanks for the video, very useful! Btw, everytime I put a video on a plane or BG as reference the program slows down a lot

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah no worries Mostach! I'm glad it helped!

[@kmahant]

Thanks for the Tutorial. I dont seem to get the option to do Edit Motion Layer after importing the animation. Did you do any conversions of the original animation, before importing to Iclone ?

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah no worries Karan! No if I remember correctly it's just the FBX!

[@tokunbooluwaseun5196]

Wow 😲😲 this is really amazing I have being using iclone 7 never realized what I have being missing. Thanks once again for this great tutorial.♥️♥️

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah no worries! I'm glad it helped! Yeah iClone is so powerful

[@IndianCitizen04]

Amazing Tutorial. Learnt so much from it. Expecting more so in Future. iClone 8 as a animation tool is superb.

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks man! Yeah I'm hoping to do some more in-depth videos on CC4 and iClone 8 soon

[@animaticmediaUSA]

Another great video and more insight into the Curve Editor! eagerly awaiting your comprehensive CE tutorial :) :)

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks AM! Yeah I hope to start doing some more detailed step by step videos on CC4 and iC8 sometime down the road.

[@GrisuXIII]

Amazing video. I learned something! Thank you!

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks Montz! I'm glad it helped!

[@ExspiravitMundi]

Bro, We Miss you

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha lol thanks man. I always think about the channel, I miss making videos! I should make one soon.

[@WILLIAMCAMACHOGARCIA]

Wow!!! Thanks for this INFO and to take the time to explain with this tutorial. Is hard sometimes to find the perfect animation for your project and with this tips now we can create or own animatios using this trick. Thanks so much 💪🏻

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks William! I'm glad it helped! I hope I can do some more detailed, in-depth videos on CC4 and iC8 soon to give even more information!

[@WILLIAMCAMACHOGARCIA]

@@RussellMidfield U welcome and yes please that be great. To see more videos for CC4 & Iclone 8 🙏

[@zulkhaltoy8080]

thankyou make the most direct, quick, clear explanation tutorials

[@RussellMidfield]

You're welcome Zulk! I'm glad they helped!

[@asetone]

Priceless video thank you ! Reallusion tools should be more known ! And yeah i got strong soul train vibes at the end 😘

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha yeah no worries! I'm glad it helped! Haha shoulda thrown some bell bottoms on!

[@roar4398]

Great tutorial. But goes a little too fast for an Iclone newbie, you should make a course on this I think there is alot of interest for it.

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks roar! Yeah a tad quick it's true sorry, yeah good idea!

[@jaym2267]

Hey! how exactly did you get the imported FBX from Plask to be a character? When I import a character from Plask, it only imports as a prop and doesn't allow me to adjust the motion layers etc.

[@RussellMidfield]

Hey Jay! Oh weird, so going File -> Import -> FBX imports it as a prop?!

[@jaym2267]

@@RussellMidfield I sent more information over via Discord with images!

[@michael_mc_donald]

Thanks for the awesome video Russell. Your dance moves are great! :D You've earned a new subscriber! I am an experienced 3D artist working in the industry, but a complete novice when it comes to animation. I am trying to reproduce your experiment but having some trouble. At time stamp 2:12, you begin. You take your Plask FBXs and you begin cleanup in iClone8. However when I try to reproduce these steps, I am confused. Are there some steps in between that didn't make it into your video? Basically, I have used Plask to record and create some FBXs, but when I import the FBXs to iClone8, the Edit Motion layer button does not exist for me. Is this down to the Plask skeleton differing from the iClone skeleton? Or something else entirely? I would love to know what I am overlooking here. Many thanks if you get the time to reply.

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha thanks Michael! Oh yeah sorry this should have been perhaps slowed down, this is an abbreviated version that probably wouldn't be too helpful if you're trying to follow along. I'll try and see if I can find the time to put something detailed together!

[@billybobs1705]

@@RussellMidfield what about facial features? i abandoned iclone a long time ago because it did not have any useful stuff

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah CC4 has some pretty good facial animation features now!

[@lemmonsinmyeyes]

awesome refrence video, all detail, no fluf, excellent

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks lemmon! Im glad it helped!

[@fascinatingcreaturess]

That was super thanks ❤

[@RussellMidfield]

You're welcome Fascinating! Glad it helped!

[@fascinatingcreaturess]

@@RussellMidfield hey dude I have a queastion . I recorded motion data and converted in iclone 8 and I want to use mirror pose to reduce wasting time but when i select one side of body motion and try to apply mirror to another pose my mocap destroys . but when i create motion with rotoscope and apply mirror it works whats the problem

[@KindTom1]

Hi @Russel, I'm having issues with the curve editor. I don't see any of the animation data. From 5:10, I see you switched to having a 'Baked' animation clip. How did you bake the animation? and Howcome I cant see any animation data on the curve editor? It's like I have no way of seeing the skeleton animation data, so it's that much hard to clean up.

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh hmm, sorry I can't remember off the top of my head! I believe there is a bake animation menu item somewhere of I remember correctly, I'll get back to you soon.

[@KindTom1]

@@RussellMidfield , thanx. Looking forward to your response. I resolved the curve editor issue. I just needed to select the Base Animation layer in the Animation Layer panel. Just need to figure out how to bake the animation. There's no documentation that I found online. Looking forward to your response. Thank you for work, you have saved me .

[@KindTom1]

@@RussellMidfield , I just found the 'Bake' option. In the menu at the to, under 'Animation' drop down menu, 'Flatten All Motion With Constraint. That will bake the animation clip. So it's not intuitive to find because the flattened clip is renamed to 'Bake', is instead of 'Flattened'. Which is the same thing, but different when w=you have to google of answers.

[@RussellMidfield]

Ah nice! Yeah could maybe be better!

[@armondtanz]

Need to do a Rokoko one now. Ha !

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha yeah it's true! Maybe one day!

[@armondtanz]

@@RussellMidfield Ooooooor even better the Sony Mocopi , That look awesome !!!!

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh yeah I should check that one out too!

[@MarcV_IndieGameDev]

I do wish IClone did a free until, make over set amount approach. The package with all the bells and whistles cost £1000s. It puts me in a position where I can't learn it over the months or years and use it in my daily work to potentially hit success. It's a great piece of software where I've enjoyed the videos of what it can do. I just can't see myself using it due to this fact, and will have to wait for some talented person to make a poor mans version in blender. So... It's a great piece of software where it loses potential money cause it's no willing to help to little dude! Btw great video!

[@RussellMidfield]

Haha yeah I hear ya, it's definitely an investment. What kind of work do you do?

[@MarcV_IndieGameDev]

@@RussellMidfield I care for my disabled mum, and invest all my other time in learning Blender and Unity. Working wage is not in my hands at the moment. I understand it's not unreasonable price they are asking, I just prefer the method of, pay when you hit a threshold, It does make one have a sort of allegiance with the software/company + If you are able to create the income, as a solo developer or a tiny team, I feel there would be loyalty as towards said company. What are your thoughts, I know I can be wrong :D

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah that's a good point! I think that makes sense, maybe sometime down the road they'll go that way!

[@MarcV_IndieGameDev]

@@RussellMidfield I hope so, I'm really interested in the puppet tool they have and the webcam/phone to facial animation plug-in. Hopefully some smart person out there makes it for blender ^^

[@augustababeta]

Loved loved loved this. So helpful.

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks august! Glad it helped!

[@michalsankowski9465]

amazing, very useful

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks Mike! I'm glad it helped!

[@KeturahTori]

As an owner of all these plug ins from reallusion for 7 that are supposed to make 8 great. I can say am having an issue with those plugins specifically for 7 now that 8 has come along. And when I contacted support they only talked about 8 not fixing the problem. support was included in my purchase of the plugin(within the last 2 years). Because iclone didnt offer mixers etc I'd purchased them from daz a yr or so ago. The poser mixer, easy pose creation, pose architect , pose builder can be found in daz, under 30.00 ea. blender has pose picker price varies with number of users, spacing sculptor is like curve editor in blender for $15.00. animation layers 28 for the cc4 updates- a body mixer also under 30 in daz if you the pipelines for 7 & cc3. due to how much i've spent with reallusion in the last year or so; with no heads up of updates as a feature of customer service to have the best reallusion experience. I can say I'm not paying Again for things I already purchased. If they're doing this to existing customers I Know they look forward to squeezing new ones. Buyer be aware its only easy because of plug ins and You still have to learn the UI of both. Though reallusion does offer tutorials...they are Always lacking in totality. Blender and Daz have all these and more at a fraction of the price blenderCinepack + The Particle Library Bundle on sale and the mesh trailer is sweet. And blenders Grease pencil and all things Grease pencil ...check that out. My experience with Blender support of the particle hair plug in that is now obsolete if you have blender 3 and up. The creator is kind enough to help me ensure it keeps working in the older version of blender. They even made contact 1st when they didnt hear from me for a while. And you can still dload older versions of Blender for use with addons. Awesome customer service. This was an expensive lesson, for me. I was ignorant because NO one had really talked of them Truthfully in the comments or any video of how Reallusion operates. I was unable to learn from anyone else's experience with Reallusion. save you the trouble money and time by being truthful about Reallusion.

[@KeturahTori]

I wouldn't recommend Reallusion to a new user considering how they treat existing customers. As your needs advance with your project, reallusion is an expensive option that will probably still need a patch from daz or blender to get what you want. CLOTHING JEWELRY Vehicles Furniture buildings Mesh machine for hard surface modeling to customize and make your projects unique Other users have even said iclone used to have a pose mixer in the past and then they took it away now they're bringing it back so people may have already owned that plug in too and now they'd have to pay again as well Buyer Be Aware

[@RussellMidfield]

Sorry to hear you haven't had an awesome experience Keturah, doesn't sound fun!

[@KeturahTori]

@@RussellMidfield What I wrote is a Warning for all considering buying reallusion products Who wants to be mid project and have a plug in not work suddenly and there be no support for it because you will not pay again for what is to be included in your initial purchase Anyone who bought add ons and the pipeline should be upset right now. They were working on it for years they said so they knew the situation they were creating. Buyer be aware If reallusion Would have fixed the issue rather than tell me I need to upgrade clone 8 to use what I already paid for and was working fine with 7; my wording may have been a bit different

[@jnanashakthidigitals]

Nice tutorials

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks nanashak! Glad if they helped!

[@jnanashakthidigitals]

Yes it is... Within two days I will finish one animation with our Indian classical dance upload our youtube chanel... By the way I used tdpt window version software mocap which track finger movement also 👍❤😊

[@RussellMidfield]

That's awesome! Genius idea!

[@iliasiosifidis4532]

Gj! I use Iclone8 and it was useful to me. I almost never touch curve editor but now i have reason to do it

[@RussellMidfield]

Thanks ilias! Yeah the curve editor is pretty good, the smooth all is a nice easy feature to use without getting too into the weeds of all the graphs and curve handles haha

[@iliasiosifidis4532]

@@RussellMidfield btw how did you mix all animations into one? I did this randomly once and cannot replicate it..

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh how do you mean? What part of the video?

[@iliasiosifidis4532]

@@RussellMidfield on 5:08 there are 3 parts and later you merge them (if I understood that correctly)

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh yes, I see! To do that, go up to the Animation menu along the top, then select "Flatten All Motion With Constraint", then it will combine all of the separate parts into one.

[@FoxRenderfarm]

Hi

[@RussellMidfield]

Hello!

[@FoxRenderfarm]

@@RussellMidfield We are looking for KZbin partners. We are render farm that can help you render faster, and we wonder if you are interested.🥰

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh wow thanks for reaching out! That's awesome! Yeah we should talk soon!

[@FoxRenderfarm]

@@RussellMidfield Can we talk via email?🤩

[@RussellMidfield]

Yeah for sure, I messaged you guys on Instagram with my email!

[@sheema3483]

Can u talk about 2d designs of supercell maker ?

[@RussellMidfield]

Oh yeah good idea, I can do that!

[@sheema3483]

@@RussellMidfield thanks

[@sheema3483]

@@RussellMidfield Only 6 days left, can you speed up the video work? plz