Russia-China relations “turning sour” as Putin “embarrasses” Xi | Roger Boyes

“China doesn’t want Russia to lose this war.”
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[@tabithan2978]

People forget Russia is a small country population wise (only 144M) compared to China (1.2B) India (1.4B) the EU (450M) and US (330M). This threatening the world is not looking so smart.

[@Serbinator_Dominator]

EU is not a country you fool. Now do BRICS population…you see what I just did?

[@davefave4351]

I keep telling the trolls this - France and Germany alone have a combined population 10 million greater than russia...

[@alexkuvalja6770]

144 M people have 64000 nuclear warheads. Threat is automatic and unintentional

[@mrb.5610]

Smal GDP. That's what buys weapons thee days.

[@MartinLundström-l4v]

Yes, And that's why Russia is so "angry" that Europe "CHEAT" acting as one unit, thew consisting of several countries. Poor Russia...

[@captchaos6870]

Friends. Leaders like this don't indulge in friendships.

[@tarajoyce3598]

Which is a contributing factor to their insanity.

[@tomcarter9580]

The dynamic of power is shifting. And shaming will not bring it back.

[@kkiissssiikk]

Politicians don’t do friendships

[@mrobocop1666]

Putin and Xi are familiar with each other for 2 decades and met insane amount of times, including private non-state meetings and attended each others birthdays. So I guess them addressing to each other "my friend" isn't just a state necessity

[@sellsformoola]

Friends respect when negotiating with another leader of another country. You don’t get anywhere when you’re disrespectful. So when they say friends, they actually mean respect.

[@thomasherbig]

Sorry, but western weapons being used by Ukraine to destroy Russian bases on Russian territory is NOT an act of war. It is not a gesture of friendship, to be sure, but weapons deliveries to belligerents have never been considered an act of war. If so, then Switzerland would have been at war with Germany and the allies in WW II at the same time… And Russia is not in a virtual state of war with NATO. That would look VERY different. Very good otherwise

[@arau8310]

I agree with you, but russia has not, does not, and will not abide by international, conventional or traditional law or rules. That regime only does what benefits those in power (personally and "professionally"). If they say it's an act of special military operation, then it is as far as the russian people are concerned. I hear they're "not good" at politics and it seems that they put all of their faith and trust in putin and whatever decisions he makes for the country and them personally.

[@lukeempty3386]

Pretty sure the French were selling arms to Argentina during the Falklands war. Even gave them arming codes for the missiles they used to sink a British ship the same day

[@JaneSoole]

Well said.

[@russellspeed1693]

how silly

[@MrCatalhuyuk]

You are very much right and its difficult to understand his position. I hear that Sudan is sending troops to help Putin, so does that concern a declaration of war by Sudan.

[@IusedtohaveausernameIliked]

"Limitless friendship" means absolutely nothing when coming out of the mouth of an absolutist tyrant (nevermind two of them).

[@saeed7099]

No permanent friends only interests

[@simonmeszaros2770]

we been in this forever friendship with russia before. its over. we have new friends now, definitely more respectful.

[@Canoby]

@@saeed7099 That's really the case for all nations, though it seems tyrants love to pretend this isn't the case for propaganda sake

[@mattt3555]

Exactly. This is a "partnership" between two despots that want to both be in 100% control of decisions. Doomed to fail.

[@davefave4351]

Like 1984. Oceana. Eurasia. Eastasia. No russia though...

[@machdaddy6451]

I now doubt if Russia was ever as powerful as we thought.

[@multipl3]

Putin revealed the answer to the world bless 😂

[@randomescu]

It was until modern weaponry was developed. Their huge amount of tanks was an unstopable force until a few decades. Also, the lack of consideration and care for their own people.

[@machdaddy6451]

@@randomescu Their pathetic doctrine hasn't help them either.

[@JS-ip8xm]

@@randomescu Well, they have lost the tanks, but keep behaving the same way towards their own population, who seem to love to be treated that way.

[@MrAbklee]

Don't doubt

[@paulkieffer1189]

Nope they’re still friends absolutely- they’re aligned against the US

[@brianmead7556]

Russia is aware they need Chinese support to adequately supplement their ability to repel western expansionism and hegemony. China knows they need Russian soft power to bolster their outreach and Russian military might to concern Europe to keep western focus away from Asia-Pacific. Both of them know the western powers will fragment and carve them up again if they don’t keep a hard united front. Russia doesn’t want to relive the 90s and China doesn’t want to relive the entire century of humiliation.

[@scalawag6878]

Wrong!

[@NativeSan25]

Hard to say. Humans can't be trusted. Indeed.

[@Tastykule]

Not at all

[@kingswayoflife3948]

China has investments in US some will say even own parts of the US

[@Norwegian733]

Russia has never been an "unbeatable force".

[@simonpaine2347]

No country has ever been an unbeatable force.

[@NefetariMoonRay]

HAHAHA. EVEN WHEN THE MUJAHADINE DID NOT HAVE MUCH, THEY SENT THE RED BEAR WITH HIS TAIL BETWEEN HIS LEGS BACK OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY.

[@rc666]

@@simonpaine2347 Vatican city.

[@brand8590]

I had exactly that first response. We in the west have been sold this boogeyman for way too long.

[@MorningNapalm]

Russia was only unbeatable as long as they invaded their own eastern tribelands with a European style army.

[@PtolemyJones]

Putin was so deluded about his own strength, he didn't realize that trying to use it would show the world the truth.

[@MarkoToljaM]

Bro. You make no sense. It's in Chinese interest the Russia wins. Because of Taiwan. Future conflict with USA over Taiwan. Russia is during well on the battlefield. By de- militarized both NATO and Ukraine. USA can't produce enough shells and missiles for a proper convention war. USA has lost the industrial capacity. Usa can't win wars one on one. Against Russia or china. Even Iran. Nuclear weapons is not a sign of weakness. 50. Vs 1. Why not engage Russia one on one 😂😂😂😂. USA with their superior mentality 😂

[@mrboxheadd748]

THE SO CALLED "SUPERPOWER" USA AND IT'S NATO PUPPETS LOST TO MEN IN PJ'S AND SANDALS

[@KevP-z8i]

Good point..well made😂

[@raydunn2582]

It just goes to show you what can happen when you stand up to a bully. In this case it has largely become the basis for virtually all other conflicts and economic instability around the world. But, in and of itself, it has achieved only to show off Russian inferiority.

[@tabithan2978]

He’s a bad poker player I’m guessing.

[@johna5487]

It appears that certain opportunists are eyeing the entire eastern flank of Russia as the Russian military continues to be weakened to the point that they would have no significant infantry to defend itself. The Russians are now unable to defend their own airspace. Who would even come to Russia’s defense? Russia’s actions against Ukraine in the hopes of protecting its own territory supposedly from NATO has actually made its eastern portion of the country so much weaker. So strategically shortsighted!

[@tabithan2978]

Gee, who could have guessed? Xi and Putin’s limitless friendship has limits. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@fyrchmyrddin1937]

At some point the "limitless friendship" will include Premiere "Pooh" Xi snapping up the tasty bits of Eastern Russia claiming they're "ethnically Chinese"... 🤣

[@JosephJohn-fb9wx]

When you have two bullies in the schoolyard.eventually they will go after each other.

[@FeliceIzzo-y2k]

credo che insieme vi faranno sputare sangue, come dice anche la bibbia

[@alanstone1206]

Limitless friendship, fake as is every thing from China.

[@WillMellon]

Putin threatens one of China's biggest markets the E/U and alienates others like the U/S. Not good for commerce.

[@karlphillips8310]

In China it is all about face - The Chinese concept of “face” (aka 面子 or miànzi) refers to a cultural understanding of respect, honor and social standing. Russia has just destroyed its reputation amongst their peers, which puts Russia on the lower step, inferior and not worthy of time, effort and resources, except in certain areas where China is deficient - it is a cabal of convenience, and the more Russia tries, the further it is going to fall, and the less China is going to respect, honor and have dealings with them, especially if secondary sanctions are going to hit them hard.

[@AGENDA_1938]

well said! In that recognition, would it guide relationships, should be a lot of potential for a better future with China.

[@kynchan3332]

China is next after Russia. There is no way the US would ever allow China to become the dominant super power. Protectionism and sanctions have happened. China has been planning for it thus the strong expansion into Africa (political support and trade). When it comes down to survival or trade - survival will always be a stronger instinct. The US has already thrown down the gauntlet. China knows it will need to diversify away. Starting with the US chip ban China will need to make its own high end ones, there is no going back.

[@tikaanipippin]

China is waiting, like Ukraine and the West, for Putin to collapse in this ill-thought-out, and incompetently executed operation, sabotaged mainly by the corrupt elements in Putin's own inner circle that have destroyed the Russian Military by theft from within, and Putin's vanity and his chosen lack of counsel from people who could have dissuaded him from this path, if only he wasn't so paranoid and intent on securing his dictatorship for life. Putin's seconds are ticking away...

[@cyb_structure]

@karlphillips8310 - the cabal of convenience. Nailed it sir. 🎯

[@ZabZab-s3i]

​@@AGENDA_1938 Status and saving face. You can not have a fair relationship with a country run on these egotistical emotions. It's not business for them unless they are benefiting more.

[@ArchieWW]

A very interesting perspective by this knowledgeable speaker. I liked just listening to him without interruptions by hosts.

[@kaylidington]

"Friendship" with russia is expensive. Secondary sanctions hitting China's already structurally weak economy, loss of goodwill and standing, and a weak and needy neighbour with nothing to offer in markets or technology. Bad move, and the price is rising.

[@Nels921]

Without markets in europe and US, China have real big problems.

[@jamesgreen1116]

Do you actually believe that nonsense you said? 😂

[@mikeevans7381]

China's economy is having problems and Russia only has oil and natural gas to offer is that enough for the next 6 years?? 💯🇺🇸

[@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304]

The limitless friendship clearly doesn't extend to recognizing any of Putin's annexations

[@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304]

@@sebastianforbes1 That doesn't make sense. Putin decided to go to war. Not anyone else.

[@swisstroll3]

“Limitless” in an agreement between Russia and China means “we were looking for an impressive word.” After all, both China and Russia have complete control over their media. Since both sides can claim that “We didn’t say that” five minutes after they say something, they can say anything.

[@hokroeger]

USA: "We lied, we cheated, we stole" (Mike Pompeo) "We are "honest" (Trum,p and Biden)

[@cryptobex1452]

Sounds more like western politician.

[@swisstroll3]

@@cryptobex1452 A good Western politician can speak for hours without saying anything.

[@SvendSved-p1u]

The West - Europe and the EU - have complete control over their MSM We hear nothing but propaganda from our MSM

[@nomasker1360]

So, like the West then .

[@kujaneck]

1.75 speed. Great speech though

[@richardharris4162]

yes, he has trouble speaking, almost stuttering tooo uncertain of what he wants to say

[@carycoombe3380]

Fantastic idea. Thx

[@Follow.Jesus.Christ]

1.25 speed

[@Mr.Verethron]

1.5 for me but yeah thanks for reminding me, I was so bored I started reading comments while was talking

[@thundershield]

Eh, eh, eh ... ehm, eh...

[@j-dubb614]

Russia and China's "Limitless friendship" reminds me of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Its certainly not the first time a Russian tyrant has allied itself with another foreign dictator.

[@jamesb312]

And, look how wrong the pact went. There's no difference in the behaviour of Stalin and Vlad the failure. Russia, a so calles superpower, having to get help from Iran and even N. Korea and S. Africa...pathetic.

[@psykil9838]

There was a kid in school named Harry Rippentrop. When the teacher would take attendance, we would all say Harry "licks my crotch" or something similar. It evolved. He died in a car crash a few years later. All useless true facts.

[@snork44]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@jamesb312let’s be honest the Russians and the Chinese have aways hated each others guts ! This is a very strained marriage of convenience , the amount of times they’ve had border skirmishes and nearly had a full on war are too numerous to count. Plus the Chinese has acquired Russian military technology without paying any royalties is pretty damning and that has always rankled on Putins mind !

[@andreasferenczi7613]

@@snork44 What skirmishes, that are too numerous to count, are you talking about? Laughable...

[@matthewcummings9024]

That's what I was thinking

[@jeffreyokun2355]

This guy is saying what he wants to believe, which is a classic misunderstanding in the West, because we tend to project. Realistically this man is failing to believably describe a motivation for Beijing to enter into limitless partnership. He also fails to explore the support Moscow has been receiving from Beijing during the years of this war. It is pretty evident that a friendship and support is serving the geopolitical aspirations of Beijing and as such, regardless how the war ends up going, China stands to gain from it, whether in terms of weakened West, or a weakened Russia.

[@deannekliene2673]

Yes ...believe someone on KZbin rather than a pro...😏

[@cotystiehl7260]

Exactly... and they announced their "no limits" partnership well into the war.

[@miscbits6399]

"The West" isn't weakened in any way, with what's happened ensuring that relations are stronger than ever before. Russia, on the other hand has already destroyed its future. It no longer has enough young men to ensure the survival of the country in the long term China stands to benefit from encouraging Russia to exhaust itself in a fruitless conflict. I'll be surprised if anything east of the Urals remains part of "Russia" in 20 years' time

[@tonygold1661]

Ukrainian attacks within Russia are only "special military operations", not a declaration of war. What's the problem?

[@stephaniemurria5534]

Absolutely.

[@KarlFullerNZ]

Very good!

[@JoeMercer-g4s]

Your mind is the problem.

[@michaeljohnston980]

@@JoeMercer-g4s at least get a real KZbin name you Russian trolls don’t even try anymore do you?

[@indey-joe]

It is not even "special military operation". It is a friendly response to someone else's "special military operation")

[@aburakadabura2]

An army that ignores humanity has weak weapons and is at risk of rapid attrition, leading to the deaths of even the best soldiers. Looking at the current attrition of the Russian army in Ukraine, it is easy to see why this sentiment is so correct.

[@moestietabarnak]

You're right.. except you're describing Ukraine's Army.

[@aburakadabura2]

@@moestietabarnak I can see why Russia's civilization and political correctness is inferior to that of other countries when I look at you.

[@JohnWeems-y3e]

The dragon is getting,, HUNGRY .

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

Moscow horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated in the Cold War. 1996 defeated by Chechnya 2022 defeated by Ukraine WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :- a) Hungary 1956 b) Czechoslovakia 1968 c) Moldova 1992 d) Georgia 2008

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@shoebill181]

Not the same Russia now.

[@DanW-nk7sn]

@@shoebill181 Even more pathetic now

[@Brandon34098]

"1939 defeated by Finland" they did win that war but it was very painful for them and of course isnt the full record with wins mixed in but thats not the point of the comment

[@jefbezoss7638]

So why do we all need to increase nato spending ? To feed Stoltenberg and his military industrial complex bosses - nato is 100 x more powerful than Russia 🤷🏻 just saying 🔫🛢️💰

[@fv5855]

POWER Of SIBERIA Pipeline 2 This is the 2nd Time Putin has attempted the Pipeline Deal . The 1 st time , about 6 months ago , China Told Putin ..Yes , But Putin would have to Pay & Build it { 6 Years Time Frame } and China expected a 46 Percent Discount from Market Rates . : Everything according to Plan " 😀

[@Kaesemesser0815]

China knows that ruzzia is desperate and will use that to their advantage. Turns out that antagonizing the West is a losing game.

[@icu17siberia]

The problem here is that Russia has never built a pipeline with our western expertise. And China knows it has an advantage in terms of pricing. Another brilliant strategy by Vladimir

[@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304]

I suspect thats because pipelines supplying Russian gas have a habit of exploding whenever the kremlin decides to use energy supplies as a weapon to get its way. Just ask the Germans and Georgians.

[@cyb_structure]

@fv5855 - sounds like a great deal for Russia, from their good buddy, China. 😂

[@felipearbustopotd]

Without western help ​@@icu17siberia

[@hokroeger]

By seeing headlines like this, we notice how desperate Brits (US, UK, Australia) have become, over China's and Russia's success, and their own downfall.

[@MrXapheth]

Denial...maybe...keep positive...faith...who knows?!

[@Spudscumbersome]

lol ok putinbot. 3 days to Kyiv am I I right? 😂

[@hokroeger]

@@Spudscumbersome In fact, no Russian official ever said "3 days to Kiev". None of their officials. It was said by Western MSM. Putin, in fact said that the special operation would take years. "Demilitarisation, denazification, (and) ensuring the safety of people living in those regions that have already become Russian, protecting them from direct attacks and actually saving their lives," are the goals, according to Peskow (Reuters). Taking over Ukraine never was a Russian goal. The fact that Russia is gaining more and more territory, is merely a "byproduct".

[@Counterpart1234]

It’s not about friendship it’s all business. Remember russia has Manchuria and china want to take back its land. They have conflict before and they’ll be having conflict again after the war’ china just waiting for russia to weaken in the war of Ukraine

[@Apollonos]

@@sebastianforbes1 Nice try, Russian bot. It will be fun to watch China annex Siberia, and there won't be anything that Putin can do about it.

[@nathansmith622]

"It's all about business" and security, for the West it's all about COLONIALISM, OPPRESSION AND MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Be-Es---___]

A good friend will stop you from making huge mistakes .

[@lonpfrb]

Chairman xi has not authorised nuclear weapon use and knows that threats are the best option...

[@nathansmith622]

BASIC FACTS you will NEVER hear on Times Radio and majority of corporate and state Western media. - The Ukraine war started in 2014 when the US overthrew the democratically elected government in a so called "colour revolution" called the Maidan coup paraphrased as the "revolution of dignity" by the US because when Neo nationalist extremists and the US empire takes over your country that's apparently called "dignity" lol. - Straight after the illegal coup, the US/NATO started integrating themselves into the Ukrainian military and flooding the country with weapons and started mass shelling the majority ethnic Russian Donbass killing over 14,000 civilians after they overwhelmingly voted for independence in the 2014 Donbas status referendums. - 2014 Donbas status referendums were in protest to Neo-Nationalists burning alive over 30 ethnic Russian protesters protesting the coup in Odessa. - The term "Russians Orcs" now used widely by Ukrainians and Westerners was originally made up by NAZIS in WW2. GROSS!

[@BluegillGreg]

Russia's attacks on Ukraine's nuclear power plants demonstrate an irrational lack of concern over nuclear issues. Your arguments are rational. The rationale for starting this war and for attacking nuclear installations may in fact, though, be irrational.

[@nathansmith622]

Russia has never attacked any nuclear power plants. They liberated one. Western backed Ukrops have continually tried to bomb the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant and one or 2 in Russia a few times. You do know that pretty much everything Times Radio (owned by Rupert Murdoch) says is the opposite of the truth right? It's propaganda for US empire. The Ukraine war started in 2014 when the US overthrew the democratically elected government in a so called colour revolution called the Maidan coup paraphrased as the "revolution of dignity" by the US because when Neo nationalist and the US empire takes over your country that's apparently called "dignity" lol. Straight after the coup, the US/NATO started integrating themselves into the Ukrainian military and flooding the country with weapons and started mass shelling the majority ethnic Russian Donbass killing over 14,000 civilians after they overwhelmingly voted for independence in the 2014 Donbas status referendums. US foreign policy in Russia is for regime change and the balkanisation of Russia. Russia is literally fighting for their very SURVIVAL, is that IRRATIONAL IS IT?

[@kkiissssiikk]

It was not Russia. 🙄 At the time of the attack they actually were in possession of the plant.

[@johnkuncho7239]

Russia needs to lose and learn to be something other than a kleptocracy.

[@scalarnai]

Good try, yet another western anti-China anti-Russia misinformation/ propaganda that's so out of touch with reality. Boring, boring.

[@henrikpersson4371]

ur just a sheep

[@edgarkalonji7359]

Putin has no choice but to threaten the Western world even if this is highly risky. Same when you confront the Devil please do not ask for indulgence

[@ottomanstamper7609]

Spoken like a true idiot! "Needs to" is meaningless; reality is what matters and Ukraine is losing!

[@GowonHabibu]

Russia or putin Shameful war with Ukraine so Shameful.

[@Kenneth-p1b]

The trouble with those people is they believe their own b*******

[@timkelly5602]

@@Kenneth-p1b mirror, mirror...

[@tipupakoro5729]

Cry baby Cry. Glory to President Vladamir Putin

[@perrieargent9997]

@@tipupakoro5729 Mentally inane.

[@moestietabarnak]

What shameful if the irrational Russophobia in the west, fueled by the deep-state that want to destroy Russia and exploit its resources !

[@davidfoster2006]

The EU economy is 12 times larger than the Russian economy, Russia has natural resources but little else, Russia manufactures little of any quality that the rest of the World would want.

[@PerfidiousAlbion1815]

and when the West does not use oil anymore over the next 30 years they will have to compete with all the other oil producers scrambling for new markets

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

According to the World Bank Russia is the fourth biggest economy in the world, and has 5% growth in the first half of this year, no EU countries are in the top five.... You absolute ignoramus

[@MarkG-h2y]

@@sebastianforbes1 In your dreams - BRICS is a bunch of 3rd World wannabees who temporarily have economic winds at their backs.

[@scurra1163]

@@sebastianforbes1 China is most of BRICS' GDP, and they have a debt to GDP just below the EU average; and it's growing rapidly. India and Brazil are the next largest with debt-to GDP at or above the EU average. Russia is the only other relevant economy and they need to replace hundreds of billions worth of destroyed equipment and infrastructure. BRICS is making the EU look like amateurs how?

[@LRRPFco52]

​@@sebastianforbes1What currencies do Brazil, Russia, India, China, and SA use internationally? When Brazil buys Gripens from Sweden, what currency was the deal done in? Same for Brazil's fertilizer, or India's imports/exports, or China's imports/exports? When Chinese CCP agents wire millions into Hunter's bank accounts, is it in Yuan? See where I'm going with this?

[@netgeek3010]

Xi sounded like he gave a pinky finger swear while waiting for Russia to collapse.

[@Yohan-b8u]

✔️cannot trusted Chines blood

[@davidhalbleib2467]

What are the odds that China decides to turn it's military attention away from Taiwan and focus more to the north? China has an argument that much of the territory that Russia acquired in WW2 was theirs. Siberia is rich in raw materials, oil, and natural gas which China needs. With Russia depleted and fighting stagnant war in Ukraine I doubt it could hold off a advance from a large modern military like China on a second front.

[@sharonlavery7656]

I think Xi has got to be thinkihg about all that land with it's resources....

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

I agree . Taiwan is part of china

[@cnelsonlv99]

I happen to know those odds.... 0%! You obviously don't understand game theory!

[@cnelsonlv99]

@@sharonlavery7656 You're using the word "think" incorrectly.

[@joemamaisobama5788]

If we’ve thought about that hypothetical then the top brass of the ccp probably has too but who knows only time will tell, they’re unpredictable.

[@Terence.1]

China likes that Russian land to their North. Has their eyes on it

[@kayvee256]

That's continental great powers for you. Russia will feel exactly the same about territory to its south too. Both of them know it too.

[@BingoPaletot]

It was actually Chinese until Russia stole it in the 19th century.

[@Nafogrl]

China already has started taking it back

[@TheEvertw]

Ever since Russia stole that land from China over a century ago.

[@CRAZYCR1T1C]

Part of Machun was taken from China a while ago by Russia. Let’s start with that.

[@cotystiehl7260]

This guy needs to know his facts. They announced their "no limits" partnership one year into the war when they met.😊

[@geofflepper3207]

When you find out that your best friend isn't your best friend at all and has just been using you to get cheap fuel.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

Awww taiwan is a part of China though Keep crying

[@zacksmith5963]

Taiwan is part of China though

[@lanarkcd]

The limitless friendship declaration found it had severe limits before the ink was dry.

[@user_satindra]

Hi! This is Satindra from Canada. I have been watching videos from this channel for quite some time. In connection with the present topic of how Russia China relations might turn sour I expected the speaker would touch upon one aspect of how China probably would rethink and reassess it's so called "limitless friendship" in view of what Chinese help to Russia is harming it's own interest in European market. The EU has pledged a massive assistance to Ukraine in it's war effort and the Chinese are helping Russians as we all know. China would find it more difficult to sell it's EV unless it stops helping it's so called limitless friend, Russia.

[@plschwartzx]

China is in no shape to antagonize Capitalist nations. Not militarily nor economic. Nor with active support for Putin.

[@travisbickle2004]

Xi gives Putin’s soldiers golf karts to ride into battle. Xi also buys ruzzian oil at such a cheap price that it’s barely a profit for Putin. What a truly great friend Xi is.

[@merkvandermeulen3978]

On the other hand, they've known each other for decades, so he should have known, but then again, when you live in a non-existing separate universe...

[@shannonbertram5513]

You have not one idea what you’re talking about lol it’s funny 😂😂

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

Source ? Proof ?

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@@travisbickle2004 them why are most killed indians ?

[@gordonho3828]

@@shannonbertram5513 how is OP’s statement wrong? Are Xi and Putler true limitless friends?

[@vc20029]

Wishful thinking.

[@earthtwits]

It should be noted that Eastern Ukraine is worth trillions in minerals, which would have benefited China.

[@ChuckyRed06]

Bruh really said trillions 😂😂😂🤷🤦

[@LRRPFco52]

The oil fields outside of Kharkiv and off the coast of Odessa would have been a threat to Russian's oil exports to Europe had Ukraine plugged those into the pipelines. That was a big deal that Putin wanted to prevent or control as an existential imperative for Russia.

[@jcover6938]

Am sure China will happily take over Siberia...Putin has not read his history...or current events..China needs the empty Siberia lands and minerals..oil..and leftover widows.

[@missano3856]

I know there's some lithium and a little uranium.​@francois1461

[@andreasferenczi7613]

@@ChuckyRed06 Those are pretty big deposits and trillions is well possible if you look at the entire deposit. The mineral deposits of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast alone are estimated to be worth 1 trillion.

[@richard169]

I like his calm and confident delivery of the complex relationship between Russia and China.

[@Rory20uk]

Such countries have interests, not allies. China gets cheap resources and a massive new market. Russia has frankly no other option.

[@lolasdm6959]

Russia cornered itself

[@donderstorm1845]

lol "such countries" it goes for every country.

[@yourcrazybear]

@@donderstorm1845 "lol "such countries" it goes for every country." Incorrect.

[@donderstorm1845]

@@yourcrazybear uh yeah it does. every country acts in their own interests. common sense.

[@yourcrazybear]

@@donderstorm1845 "@yourcrazybear uh yeah it does." Incorrect. There are many countries that have allies. "every country acts in their own interests. common sense." You know what is normally considered common sense? To actually read and comprehend the comments in a discussion before you reply to them. Perhaps you should try that out next time? The claim in this discussion was that a certain type of countries had interests and not allies. Then you go and make silly claims that every country lacks allies.

[@Zenon00007]

❤Ukrainian ❤

[@FeliceIzzo-y2k]

farete una brutta fine, avete scelto gli alleati sbagliati

[@Marco-xy7nd]

​@@FeliceIzzo-y2kSore loser.

[@ronnie5329]

Okay clownface​@@FeliceIzzo-y2k

[@goddesssalem4842]

Bot

[@Pippie5555]

Why does The Times Radio allow all the troIIs on this page? Most sites do not allow it.

[@nathansmith622]

Times Radio Murdoch press propaganda is garbage gossip media, and you're worried about "trolls" not the garbage lying disinformation trying to escalate a war.

[@JunkerOnDrums]

Slava Ukraini 💙💛

[@FeliceIzzo-y2k]

farete una brutta fine, la bibbia dice che ci sara' fuocoo e stridore di denti.......buona fortuna

[@benjaminjames8657]

🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿❤️

[@somjittookieguscott2079]

Putin -Xi-Kim they are solid like a "ROCK"

[@SWRural-fk2ub]

The ums did not detract from his lucid analysis if one remained patient,

[@martinpankhurst2683]

I played this at 1.5 speed and it was bearable !

[@gpg2694]

The err’s seemed equally abundant as the um’s. Played at 1.75 speed. Great insight though.

[@abuzozo2672]

So painful ...

[@donnievance1942]

Um, uh, umm, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. I agreed with most of what he said, but I just can't respect anybody who talks like that. It's one of the first things you're supposed to learn in grade school. If you can't think of the word you need for a moment, then you keep quiet for that moment. You don't say "um, ah, uh, uh, uh..." It drives people wild. They want to scream at you, "Spit it out, for god's sake!" It's rude and low class. People that do it lack respect for the people they're talking to.

[@timkelly5602]

@@gpg2694 mostly garbage actually, Roger is out of touch with reality, except the nonsense we are fed in the UK... like this video... he has no real clue at all...

[@juniorchambers-e2u]

Putin needs a way out and he cannot find it! He doesn’t want to seem like he has lost! He doesn’t want to appear weak!

[@justauser]

He is already weak. 3 days turned into 2 years of embarrassment. His military is straight cringe and he's driven his country into poverty and shambles and has reunited the west. Congrats to him on his goals of ruining Russia

[@sharmana100]

Putin is fine Russias economy is stable They are winning slowly They destroy g Ukrainian Army and natos reputation

[@felixwang1737]

Maybe Trump can give some advises to Putin.

[@lonpfrb]

​@felixwang1737 kaputin is indicted for war crimes while #45 had 91 indictments of which 34 felonies are now proven convictions. So #45 has some validation of his criminal enterprise but nothing new for a career kleptocrat like kaputin.

[@dorothymoore1744]

He doesn't want to appear weak, stand him in his underpants and he is a small insipid puny little man who is nothing.

[@alcraig]

Hard to imagine Siberia still being Russian 10 years from now. "The Emperor has no clothes."

[@rawlotw]

Well, one thing is sure - it won't be english...

[@Frederiknshansen]

@@rawlotw True. Nobody wants it except China.

[@ChongRachmat]

😂 the russians are fing the whole Western military tech up in ukraine including "mercenarys" and ukranian nato trained troops. Meanwhile china and the bricks building a World without dollar. Right now i am in Kirgistan seeing how they develop. They threw the us troops out ate building New relations with China. Its astonashing how fast they develop. This dude here is coping Hard. And the comments here. Dude the us empire as we know it wont be in 5 years from now. If u guys still want to be relevant its time to wake up and stop to listening to Clowns like em.😅

[@Ziegfried82]

@@rawlotw indeed. The English lost all their empire and seem to be losing their own country now.

[@NativeSan25]

It will be chinese 😋

[@anglaiseurophoning8998]

Very clear and convincing analysis

[@stephaniemurria5534]

Absolutely 💯

[@timkelly5602]

Shame it's mostly poor conjecture with little reality within...

[@JohnJohnson-rp3jo]

This should have been a 9 minute interview. X2 speed all the way. Decent analysis tho 👍

[@B3ruk1]

I would like to know how the Chinese dictator felt after the mutual defense agreement between the Russian dictator and the North Korean dictator, yes because everyone has already realized that the biggest threat to Russia is not NATO, but China

[@deecee1522]

Shame on Putin

[@rebeccacrossley8733]

You mean shame on the US who have pushed putin into this..

[@derjaeger3321]

This was always a marriage of convenience. In the long run, there will be a great deal of friction. The people in the Kremlin who still believe in the old Russian Empire and the people in Red Square who still hold grudges for the wrongs the great imperial powers visited on China will have their own agendas. And since neither has a free society those feeling will be “jinned” up with no release valve. This may not end well.

[@pressureent3422]

Too all My people, my believers widows, people believe in freedom Equal rights and Equanity Stand fast

[@JayDeeChannel]

Call putins bluff at every stage.

[@pifflepockle]

I think it’s time he grew a moustache.

[@stephaniemurria5534]

Absolutely 💯

[@thedoctor1837]

Don't underestimate Putin, he can read the West like a book, they just like to pretend he's a joke and hope everyone will believe them.

[@richardharris4162]

if Putin is not bluffing, does he not know the nukes will coming back from US NATO, and a rapid escalation into WW3 against Russia, Game ON!

[@FOROW99]

Double down everything. ❤

[@TheEminemOwns]

This guy say "ehhh" so many times i can't focus or listen!

[@racebiketuner]

He makes a lot of good points, but would not pass the public speaking class at Mission College.

[@andreys379]

You created some illusion and started to believe in it.

[@davidfoster2006]

China is a huge economic World power, Russia is not, China also has a none first nuclear strike policy, and China would protect its biggest export market the West.

[@constantinvaldor3742]

China doesn't have much friends. No limit friends 🤗

[@teresas8173]

They do want Taiwan though and will have to deal with one of their biggest customers, the US, if they do. China and US relations are tricky at best.

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

According to the World Bank Russia is the fourth biggest economy in the world has 5%growth in the first half of this year, no EU countries are in the top five.... You absolute ignoramus

[@viliusr.8792]

China does not like Japan and US whooped Jappan during ww2

[@stephaniemurria5534]

Didn't think about it that way. They don't want those western markets shut down. Russia is useless to the rest of the world.

[@davidpaulmert800]

It would have been a great job to develop Russia the proper way with a great free democracy. What a true beast of a country it could have become. Unfortunately now it has climbed down an endless rabbit hole

[@spodge1233]

I was thinking that, they could've been a whole new type of superpower, not mired in this 19th century BS. A potential example to the world. They had carte blanche, and went for an empire. Missed opportunity, not only for Russia but for the world. If you have a country that is stable and welcoming and good to live in, you will never have a demographic issue, people will settle there. Very strange.

[@cnelsonlv99]

And is now the 4th largest economy on the planet... ahead of all Western countries other than the U.S.

[@Durnyful]

​@@cnelsonlv99Shhhh...they don't like facts here, just propaganda

[@solosolosiervodecristo1488]

​@@cnelsonlv99an economy based on cooked numbers..No nation can consider itself rich, if its citizens are very poor. Communist countries have their riches in the hands of a few . Dictator Putin stole and made himself king over Russia . He will not steo down.

[@moestietabarnak]

digged out by the US.

[@antoniovazquez-i6l]

China don't need Russian to clean up the shoes

[@kkiissssiikk]

But they need Russian energy and natural resources. Actually, Europe needs it too. And, others too.

[@railworker8058]

Limitless friendship has no limits until it reaches its limits.

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

Слава Украіне! Жыве Беларусь! Разам і назаўжды! !!

[@Bac4-qu6qg7sk4v]

Старшего брата - матюшку Соссию забыли? 💪🇷🇺💪

[@hybridarmyoffreeworld]

@@Bac4-qu6qg7sk4v There is a reason why in Finnish verb "Ryssiä" (Muscovy) , roughly meaning "to totally fail something".

[@endoflevelboss]

@@hybridarmyoffreeworld Putin is a coward hiding away from getting sniped

[@brocksalex]

THIS IS BS! The Relationship is Stronger than ever before

[@alexanderdantonio8999]

There is no common purpose amongst dictators other than power. But then who gets it all?

[@barriewilliams4526]

Putin is being played, and there is not a lot he can do about it.

[@aexetan2769]

Dictators typically consolidate power for themselves and their inner circle. While they might use ideologies or nationalist rhetoric to justify their rule, the ultimate goal is usually personal enrichment, maintaining control, and perpetuating their authority. They often amass wealth through corruption, control of resources, or exploiting state institutions for their benefit.

[@nsevv]

dictators always go to war with other dictators and democracies. Democracy almost never invade other democracy.

[@EvoraGT430]

The most powerful dictator.

[@farrier2708]

I think if you replaced the word "Dictators" with "Politicians", your comment would still be perfectly true. 😉

[@InfinityHS]

Putin to Xi : “Don’t worry… I’ll end it in a few days…. I’ll end it in 3 days…”

[@zealman79]

mumbles: "3 Venetian Days...or 1 year of a Pluto orbit"

[@stephaniemurria5534]

We all thought it would be a three day "picnic".

[@avoncornish7324]

@@zealman79 I absolutely love that level of ominous specificity. quotes like these should be used more often.

[@onerimeuse]

Their conversation definitely started like Rick telling Morty to come on a quick 20 minute adventure, and has gone about the same, except despite the tribulations, Rick and Morty actually succeeded. Russia so far on the other hand.... Yeah, not so much.

[@Bialy_1]

The plan was to take or surround 10 big cities in 10 days. They took only one big city... and they abandoned it a long time ago as they had no idea how to defend it against the Ukrainian counteroffensive...

[@johnnyk.2911]

Netanyahu used to go around saying, "this is a friendship made in heaven",...politicians.

[@barriewilliams4526]

The little man with a funny walk seems to have a bit of a problem......

[@Stigger1977]

Zelensky does alot of drugs so yes he does.

[@georgeallcorn6302]

I don't think that the idea of a " love affair " with the " Criminal of the Century " would be a good idea , your parents would not give their blessing . . .

[@stephaniemurria5534]

Absolutely not.

[@richardharris4162]

Well, for China and Russia, the enemy of my friend is MY enemy

[@geoffgardner2440]

Fascinating subject but so dreadfully told.

[@JimBanksy]

Limiting combat to specific borders or enemy territories is an ineffective strategy. The Taliban's survival in Afghanistan provides a telling example: they would retreat into Pakistan to evade bombings, rearm, and then launch attacks on American forces. Similarly, the U.S. strategy of not invading North Vietnam but focusing on defending the South ultimately failed. These tactics are flawed because if an enemy has a sanctuary, they can endure assaults and strike when vulnerabilities appear. Under international law, Ukraine has the right to defend itself both within and beyond its borders. If Russia did not want its territory targeted, it should not have initiated a cowardly, brutal, unprovoked, and illegal war of aggression aimed at the genocide of the Ukrainian people. Ukraine should not be constrained in its defense. Here's the reality: even if the West continues to prohibit Ukraine from using donated weapons to strike inside Russia, it's only a matter of time before Ukraine develops its own long-range capabilities. They have been working with enough donated systems to have a starting point by now. Sending solidarity from Scotland! Glory to Ukraine!

[@The-Droll-and-LazyJoker]

Ukraine was the builder of the systems for the Russian military, and they have shown their ability to adapt, that means... survival Viva, Ukraine!

[@D.D.-ud9zt]

Enjoy your new Muslim overlords, Scotty boy.

[@JimBanksy]

@@D.D.-ud9zt Vlad that garbage doesn't work here but I'd take a muslim over any Vladimir pootin anyday. Now go back and defend your failing country.

[@JimBanksy]

@@D.D.-ud9zt Better than your pootin.

[@JimBanksy]

@@D.D.-ud9zt I'd rather have Muslim brothers any day over pootins Russia.

[@tomalmow3814]

Neocons have nothing left to offer... Same lies😂😂😂

[@PaddyPatrone]

russia running short of ammunition isnt really true anymore. Seems like they filled that gap.

[@francineharris9473]

Also no one knows what Russia has behind the scenes because it's the largest country in the world with nature, so it may be hidden.

[@markhayward7400]

Who would have guessed? The limitless friendship has limits!

[@AnneDahl-rr6wd]

Thank You president Xi, understood right 😢

[@ivankurtz1909]

The desperation to create a fake narrative is satire at best!

[@leonelmartinez4135]

Exactly 💯

[@phillybulphillybul4319]

Snappletop facts

[@iberiano-ls2rv]

Boicot Chinese products.

[@pablobrad100]

Russias main defence was always its winters. Although its armed forces have always been traditionally brutal to civilians, its armed training regime has never really matched that of western nations.

[@luigiaqua2263]

Countries don’t have friends, they have matching interests. DeGaulle.

[@harryhungria1743]

Never foget that Russian weapons have been used in the past against American soldiers.

[@ejlapinski]

Another small aspect is he can't lie to his people anymore saying we're liberating Ukraine if he uses nuclear weapons. Think that would be too blatant.

[@nathansmith622]

If it's lies you want, just follow Times Radio Murdoch propaganda and made UP gossip press. The Chinese-Russian relationship has never been stronger, record trade, new deals being signed daily. This guy has NO IDEA what he's talking about like every guest on Times Radio.

[@nathansmith622]

BASIC FACTS you will NEVER hear on Times Radio and majority of corporate and state Western media. - The Ukraine war started in 2014 when the US overthrew the democratically elected government in a so called "colour revolution" called the Maidan coup paraphrased as the "revolution of dignity" by the US because when Neo nationalist extremists and the US empire takes over your country that's apparently called "dignity" lol. - Straight after the illegal coup, the US/NATO started integrating themselves into the Ukrainian military and flooding the country with weapons and started mass shelling the majority ethnic Russian Donbass killing over 14,000 civilians after they overwhelmingly voted for independence in the 2014 Donbas status referendums. - 2014 Donbas status referendums were in protest to Neo-Nationalists burning alive over 30 ethnic Russian protesters protesting the coup in Odessa. - The term "Russians Orcs" now used widely by Ukrainians and Westerners was originally made up by NAZIS in WW2. GROSS!

[@kshaad9526]

Ukraine is to big of a country for Russia to think they were going to just walk in and dominate.

[@johnvaleanbaily246]

Hmmmm, Ahhhhh, Errrrrr. I wish this guy would learn to talk.

[@guyron]

Watching this at 1.75 speed still feels slow at times. Good analysis though

[@vojkanpopovic3248]

👍👍👍👎👎👎Propaganda !!!!!!!

[@Greedygoblingames]

Any regime that is entwined with its leader's ego is inevitably fragile.

[@queenlip6152]

Trump

[@VIKING-SON]

Unfortunately I'm sure this gentleman professor or whatever his title is. I struggled listening to him his trying to tell us what's going on with Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin. I left halfway through, you should really get someone like Professor Michael Clark. Sorry time radio but your not getting it done with this guy...

[@WildWombats]

I agree, way too many "uh"'s and "um"'s - literally every other word. I don't think he could go a sentence without saying one or both of them. I don't mind an occasional one but this was like every other word.

[@adelferoz4168]

So you're saying that the use of two nuclear weapons in Japan by the US was a sign of weakness by the Americans. They justify it by saying it helped in ending the war and in Japan's surrender. Putin is probably taking a page from the American experience book and might do the same. The insanity on both sides has to end.

[@andrewpearson5504]

Who could have seen this coming? Well, just about anyone who understands China and Xi. What a fool Putin was.

[@user-dp48ry5]

I feel same way. I feel Jinping encouraged Putin to attack Ukraine and as a diversion, he would attack Taiwan. Trusting Jinping, Putin went into Ukraine and China baulked leaving Russia entangled in the mess.

[@TheRoswellCode]

Caesar and Pompey were better friends than these two.

[@OneShadow7]

Did TV tell you to think that ?

[@mikewilburn5884]

One might say that history shows that to be a fact.

[@frankmcquade992]

Caesar cried when he heard that Ptolemy executed Pompey....apparently.

[@hulakan]

I am very impressed with Mr. Boyes' psychic powers that give him clear knowledge of Chinese leaders' expectations, intentions, and attitudes toward their Russian counterparts.

[@kestutisbagusauskas8323]

I think Russia's power was greatly exaggerated by the west to keep a state of wariness in their people as well as being justified to keep their military budgets in tact.

[@Alblaka]

I feel like that is only half the story. Starting out, I fully believe the western intelligence and military agencies when they were befuddled by Russia failing to take Kyiv within a week. Even if they have overestimated or overstated the Russian capabilities, I'm certain they didn't expect *that* level of incompetence. On top of that, you had (and still have) a very active Russian propaganda machine that tries it's hardest to play up every aspect of the Russian military. From the Armata, to Hyper-Sonic-Missiles, to next-gen body armor with physically impossible specs. So, the biggest source of exaggerations has, is, and will always be Russia itself (since basically every military in the world would, towards outsiders, exaggerate their own capabilities, rather than the opposite). As to how much of that exaggeration was actually believed, and how much of it was merely propagated by non-Russian institutions... that it less clear. Though I'll also point out that the only western power with a relevant military budget was the US. Nobody else had plausible reason to exaggerate Russian capabilities to justify military budgets, because nobody else had a relevant military budget to begin with. Think Germany's joke of a budget prior to the Zeitenwende. So, Russia definitely exaggerated, the US maybe/plausily exaggerated, nobody else had a reason to exaggerate, and *everyone* overestimated.

[@captainhadd0ck]

Слава Україні! 💙💛

[@FeliceIzzo-y2k]

imbecilles

[@infjlion]

He cepu!

[@mattswisher8384]

Glory to Ukraine

[@kirstinevad347]

Glory to the Ukranian defenders! 💙💛

[@geomax3465]

I had to watch this in x1.75 speed to not fall sleep. 🥴

[@fernandoalegria4240]

Why would anyone care?

[@geomax3465]

@@fernandoalegria4240 You care 🤷🏻‍♂️... 😂

[@MrKhachik1991]

I care. Helped me to save 75% time as well )

[@HoopsKevinski.]

14:45 "It's never clear whether Putin's bluffing". 😶... 😄😆😅😂🤣

[@brianmarshall7214]

Why do so many of these 'experts' "um" "um" so much?

[@Nero-dz5gr]

to bridge the gap in finding the proper words and terms. Means its unscripted and not read off some prompter and reviewed 100 times.

[@danielmbirch]

Because they’re spewing 🤮 utter nonsense.

[@maxidaho]

Times Radio frequently puts people on camera who can barely speak. Expert? Perhaps, but what good is vast knowledge if you can't string a coherent sentence to together.

[@jojoleaf2112]

There are reports that Russia is coding territory in Siberia to China. Any truth to that? Siberia is rich in fossil fuels. And it's mostly empty. It'd be a good get for China.

[@denniskrust2137]

Xi isn't just eyeing Taiwan for expansion, he's looking at Outer Manchuria. Putin may lose his east coast because of his Ukraine obsession.

[@beauvanderputt4236]

🤭

[@lolasdm6959]

Restore Haishenwan Manchu Autonomous Region

[@GaryStark]

Good analysis but he needs to work on his presentation…drop the “eh”s.