Russian Fishing 4 When To Repair Your Rod and Reels

In this episode we cover how to figure out when to repair your specific reel based on your reels Mech Weight and your line weight capacity.
Russian Fishing 4 is a fishing simulator with RPG elements. There is no story line and the whole process is based on the concept of an open, free to roam and free to play game.
Kiltedjocks spreadsheet:
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Russian Mech Weight Spreadsheet:
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Japanese RF4 page (mech weight table was taken down but it still has lots of great info):
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[@pizzafrenzyman]

Please do a video on fishing line. Features, benefits, and weaknesses of the different line types. How to match proper weight of line to the rod/reel, and how a larger or smaller thickness effects the catch. When to discard a used line. Benefits of different colors. etc. etc.

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

I hear ya, I'll see if I can try and put together something that may give everyone a good idea about lines! Gonna be a bit though, since I've got a few videos in the works.

[@pizzafrenzyman]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare slacker... hahaha

[@AzuosCentrall]

And another simpler question, if you could answer, please: watching your video, for example at 10:34 , where you show that the line used has a load capacity of 28.5kg and your rod has a load capacity of 29, 7, that is, the difference in the load capacity of the line in relation to the rod is less than 10% (around 4.1% less only). With that in mind, isn't this a risky setup for breaking the rod? Or is this not a set you use and was just shown for the video? Thank you in advance for your attention ;)... I'm learning a lot about RF4 with your videos!

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Good catch and your exactly right this is a risky setup. However I'm fairly careful when it comes down to fishing with this type of setup so I make sure not to redline my tension bar so I don't break anything. However I also know that your line and leader will wear faster than your reel or rod. So what I'm actually doing here is pushing the limits of my rod and as my line and leader get more worn eventually they will have enough wear where they will drop below 10% difference in weight capacity. At that point I don't have to be as careful.

[@AzuosCentrall]

Ahhhh perfect, wow, now it seems so obvious to me! And although I've already seen your video about leaders, I didn't do this analysis when I saw this set, perfect, thank you very much ;) In general, I have solid basic knowledge, but I still lack the experience to connect all the information at the same time... hehehe. Thank you very much for your attention. PS: I would also be grateful if you could see my other comment in this video about the wear of the mech reel not being linear with its loss of capacity, I'm really trying to understand more about the subject and since you have a lot of knowledge I'm curious to know your opinion. Thanks ;)@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

@@AzuosCentrall I'm not sure what other comment your talking about. I don't see any other comments on this video from you.

[@Sutty0151]

All this still relevant in 2024 ? What’s the max wear on line guides on the ocean queen an beluga c30 mech etc

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

For the most part yes. There is a little bit of a debate on if the line guide wear on a rod wears the line down faster, they may have changed that in new updates, but in the past the moderators said it does. Personally I don't repair my Ocean Queen till about 60% line guide wear. It's a little expensive and I've found that you don't see an increase in line wear going that high. As for the beluga c30 it depends on how you use the reel. If you fish for smaller fish or allow the fish to run and wear itself out then you can go upwards of 50% wear on the mech. However, if you're someone like me who likes to full lock or tentative lock the reel then having your mech weight as high as possible is huge and I would repair at around 15% - 20% wear. Just remember if you're using a casting reel, your bearing wear affects your casting distance. So if you're on Norway just dropping your line you can go 60%+ wear, but if you're spinning and casting you're going to want to repair at around 30%. As far as friction brake, again that depends on how you fish. Small fish 30%+ wear. Big fish 15% wear. Big fish short line 5% - 10% wear. The more wear the harder it is to get a fish to wear out and come in.

[@Sutty0151]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare ok thanks for all the juicy info pal I definitely need to start repairing something’s now before they break on me 👍

[@istvanleventemikle4151]

Just a little mistake. The bearing is not required for casting, so it does not affect the casting distance. The bearing plays a big role in the drill because then it is exposed to a load. If you know what I mean.

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

The bearing is not required for casting in spinning reels however it is required for casting reels, which is one of the reasons casting reels have a test. The lures weight is needed to backspin the spool. I assume the devs didn't take this into account and made it necessary for both reels. On the Japanese site I linked it seems they tested the reels when the bearings were damaged and found a significant difference in the casting distance.

[@AzuosCentrall]

I'm thinking that the other comment I'm referring to isn't being shown to you because it's a bit long, so I'll try to summarize it: On the "KpShamino" channel there is a video titled "Russian Fishing 4, How To Max Drag Your Setup", where the subject is "mech weight", but what I want to draw attention to is in the pinned comment of this video, where it talks that the loss of the mech's weight capacity is not linear in relation to its wear, which is actually a little less (if you read this pinned comment you will understand). And I found this relevant after on the same channel (KpShamino) I saw a video titled "Russian Fishing 4, Mechanism Reel, Rod Blank Strength Calculator" where it shows precisely a calculator in a russian excel file for this calculation of the percentage ratio of wear and loss of the mech's weight capacity. So, please, what do you think about this? Ty

[@charliesheen111]

Great video as always mystic, thanks for clearing it out to all the guys that say that HSV > Narga

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

LOL I don't know if I did all that. Hopefully they understand the benefits of the Narga a little more at least.

[@clivewinward6549]

Thanks great work, clivesoulboy here

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

No problem!

[@SkilfulDTS1]

love it .. cant disagree with anything you said.. nice vid good info for new and some older players .. ;)

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Thank you I appreciate it!

[@jamesdeanoo7]

hi just curious....ball bearings will come into play on a casting reel as the line spool revolves but on a spinning reel casting is with an open bail arm and nothing moves so how does ball bearing wear affect casting distance? secondly you say right at the beginning friction breaks cannot be repaired but are replaced,,,,you later talk about repairing it at less than 12% so you replace your friction brake at 12%? Not bbeing negative just trying to get a handle on this lol

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Ok so yes you are correct ball bearings for casting reels make sense but not spinning. All I know is the Japanese website I linked tested the bearing wear for both types of reels and that is what they came up with. So when I say repairing the friction brake it's just a slip of the tongue. Spool, bearings, grease, and friction brake are always replaced never repaired.

[@jamesdeanoo7]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare Ty love your vids...70 year plus here owned tackle shop, ran syndicated lakes , started a bait company etc and was lucky to have spent my life involved in fishing right at the beginning of carping and specimen hunting. Also very lucky to be used in tackle testing and designs of equipment and tackle along with opening up France, Spain to carping. Had to give up through age related hand tremours so discovering this game is great as my dissabilty does not prove to be a handicap. Slowly grinding out setups and love experimenting....look forward to seeing more of yours. Anything from carp history or European coarse angling I can help you with just holla.

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

@@jamesdeanoo7 I see we've got a true angler here. Seems like you've got quite a few years of great experience under your belt. Glad to have you along for the ride, welcome and good luck!

[@jamesdeanoo7]

ty keep up the great work @@midnightgamingmysticnightmare

[@davyj8428]

I have done a lot of research in the files and i found out that the devs deliberately have hidden the files where you can see the mech limits and all sorts of information because some people had changed the game files to not show water

[@davyj8428]

The spreadsheet they made where some of the limits are known is from a old version of the game when they used unity mono so it was possible to get into the files now they changed to unity il2cpp and have hidden the temp file so its impossible to get the file decompiled and see the scripts so the sheet wil probably never get updated

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

@@davyj8428 Yeah everyone always wondered how kiltedjock got his information, I guess that was how. I think the only way to get the info updated now is to actually purchase each reel and slowly try larger and larger kg lines until the reel breaks instead of the line. Which is going to be horrible to compile really.

[@89Ssik]

I'm playing this game for like 2 weeks and I had no idea this existed. Thanks : ] I was kinda in the dark and at other people mercy to share me right information so I don't break my reel, basically what I did was Rod>Reel>Line>Leader with each having lower than maximum supported. Played it on safe side with my Lacerti 2 4000s reel, Idk how much I'm missing out tho that my line is double less thick than it could be? Also Max Drag is not defined on sheet for my reel. I assume its around 6KG max. Edit, gonna watch your Line video :D

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Good deal, hope it helps!

[@89Ssik]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare Yes you told in line video that my reel is as declared Mech is 4kg :D so that means I should use like 3.9 line :3 I got bit confused what line to use though, watched whole thing but there is alot of info :D mainly I'm trying to grind breams for silvers

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

@@89Ssik 350m braided line at 3kg weight will be fine if you hook into a trophy ide or bream. you can also use that line later if it doesn't have a lot of wear to spin fish at winding or belaya river.

[@89Ssik]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare I've placed 100m 4.8kg MonoLine its strong as bull :d with breams, btw what is difference with stars? This one star line seems to be doing fine job with breams compared to my 3.5 stars line

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

@@89Ssik higher the stars the more durable it is. The more durable it is the longer it lasts and doesn't wear out.

[@johnnyo5060]

I know this is a year old. But i have a question I see different options in the repair menu for upgrades friction discs and grease etc is it worth upgrading?

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

You don't absolutely have to no. Grease isn't really that big of a deal, it just makes it so you don't burn the reel up as easily if a fish runs far and fast. Ball bearings allow you to cast a little farther for now. However I think with bearings you'll need to make them the salt water upgrades for more durability when the new ocean map comes out. As for friction brake upgrades they are amazing. Gives your reels higher drag weight. Just make sure your rod and other gear can take the increased drag weight.

[@johnnyo5060]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare Excellent thank you for the advice and the quick response...

[@valiantrose5694]

depends on reel and what fish you trying to fish.. im agreed with suggestion on forum .. generally 50%mech 50% ball bearing 30%fb 50% spool and 15% grease im not really folllow this suggestion but its just ok to follow . why? because when you are using venga , even 50% fb dont even bother me while im just fishing carp . that just an example ;)

[@tommyv711]

dont see any link for max weght

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Thanks for reminding me I'll put it up now.

[@Creepyblaziken]

Hey man. Thanks so much for the info, it really does help :)

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

No problem glad I could help.

[@thedemonicskull7748]

is this method of calculating when to repair up to date?

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Yes, the math on when to repair will always be up to date because it's just regular math that I used with the numbers the devs provided on the equipment. There's no trick to it, it's just regular math. The percentages on the mech weight is specifically what the math was for to keep the mech weight above the lines weight, so the reels' mech wont break instead of the line. However the other percentages of when to repair, like the line guides and friction brakes, are really up to the player and don't need math to figure out. If I were to go back and change any info on the video I'd say I'd suggest not repairing the line guides of the poles till about 50%. It's fine at around 15% - 30% for cheaper rods but later on when you've got super expensive rods it can be costly. on top of that people are starting to realize that line guides don't do hardly any damage whatsoever to the line.

[@2kbluedragon]

hey if using the 36kg line on the caliber like in your amber video when do u recommend repairing the mech ? its the slc not the hsv

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

I wouldn't use a 36kg line on the slc anymore. Recently kilted jocks webpage has posted that the slc mech weight is 37kg. A 36kg is too high of a line kg weight. The largest line weight for the slc now is 33.3 kgs. If you decide to use a line around that kg weight then you'd want to repair the mech at 10%. However I'd suggest using either a 28kg line or a 22kg line so you get more line on your spool. If you use a 28 kg line you can repair your mech at 15%. If you use a 22kg line (which I suggest) you can repair at 30%.

[@2kbluedragon]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare thanks for taking the time to answer man love your videos they have helped me a good bit

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

@@2kbluedragon No problem

[@pizzafrenzyman]

valuable info

[@tommyjoe2774]

Does it cost gold to repair the friction break on hsv everywhere?

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

No, the only places it costs gold for any reel part is areas that don't have parts for specific reels.

[@tommyjoe2774]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare ok because I only checked in mosquito lake and servesky donets, so maybe it out of stock in those maps

[@jinjiejiang5946]

Great content. I use a 39 line and 36 leader on my HSV,does that mean if i get spooled my reel will instantly broken instead of break leader.

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Yes

[@nuttelozeopvreter9359]

hi,i have a caliber hsv and i repared the mechanism on it at 51% but now its finished repairing it still has 9% wear.is this normal?or did i wait to long?when i repair it again will it never go lower or something im confused:)

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

If you repair every part of the reel it should go down to 0% wear. I'm assuming even though you repaired the mech you didn't repair some of the other parts of the reel which is why it still says it has 9% wear.

[@antan1414]

If anyone still watching this i have to say he has narga 8000 but now it costs more than caliber and its a lot so if u will buy some first carp sets buy Fortuna carp rod 39kg and caliber hsv 15.5 kg u can even upgrade it to 17.5 kg so its even better and cheaper

[@antan1414]

And i forgot to say thay narga repair costs a lot if u compare it to caliber

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

@@antan1414 But you also repair the Caliber 4 times more often than the Narga, which makes the Nargas mechanics cost less than the Calibers to repair over time. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJWalZyMn7R0edU

[@antan1414]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare that could be true but idk i repair its mechanism from 30 or more and friction brake from 10% it costs like 400 max or 5 idk but ye i still prefer caliber cuz narga costs a lot

[@johnjhon6901]

Overlord 87 so strong.I wanted to buy it but I didnt.Now is too late.Next Christmas..

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Yeah it was a nice one.

[@damirmusic7619]

Nice video. Keep it up! :)

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Thanks!

[@johnjhon6901]

Thanks for info.Links??

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Thanks for reminding me I'll put it up now.

[@roltol7539]

all good, but line also have the wear :) so its not 28kg :)

[@phuanhnguyen428]

How to milk a fishing rod when it's broken?

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

a broken rod means you have to buy a new rod. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaGYqYB6Yp14pqM

[@izzdanielaizad6200]

Its is worth repair old reel?

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

I you still use old reels to fish with then yes it's worth repairing old reels.

[@izzdanielaizad6200]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare buddy, im at level 18, should i save my money and repair old reel for get more money and level up skill? Its okay old reel in level 18 to reach level 20?

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

@@izzdanielaizad6200 I don't know what reel you are using and what lake you are fishing at.

[@izzdanielaizad6200]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare ussr vyatka at belaya river

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

@@izzdanielaizad6200 Save for sabre 60s or pulsar to troll Kuori Lake. Or save for Alfa 8000 and troll volkov river.

[@tamaaawyu]

rocket jet plz

[@grobbs3527]

🤔😕oof😅. I sorta understand. Mech

[@midnightgamingmysticnightmare]

Basically your mech weight is the weight limit of all of the gears in your reel. If you exceed that weight limit and max your tension bar, and your rod, line and leader are all higher weight limit then your mechanics, your mechanics will break completely and you'll have to repair them. However as you fish normally you will slowly wear down your mechanics. The higher the wear the lower the mech weight will be. So lets say you have a mech weight of 30kg on your reel. If you have 10% wear on your mechanics then your mech weight will no longer be 30kg it will be 27kg. You want to make sure your line or your leader or both are 10% lower than the mech weight on your reel. That way if you max your tension bar your line or your leader will break instead of your mechanics. Mech weight is also used to determine if you want to try to lock your reel on a fish so it can't run at all. However that's higher level stuff you don't even want to mess with until you start getting more advanced reels.

[@grobbs3527]

@@midnightgamingmysticnightmare thanks it's becoming clearer now. Your clever to be able to understand it all. Thanks for sharing it with us mng.