Russian Pobeda ( Победа ) Watch Restoration

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My Retro Watches

My Retro Watches

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@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
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@kurkkobain
@kurkkobain Жыл бұрын
after reaturation have a difference of 53 seconds a daY' ? If we change positions?
@leonardohunter1636
@leonardohunter1636 2 жыл бұрын
Thank for all, great video 👌
@acsiii110
@acsiii110 Жыл бұрын
I taught myself watchmaking on a couple of Soviet SLAVAS - a 2427 auto, and a 2428 manual. Very robust and tough design with twin springs, but elegant or pretty they are not. Both are NOS, and seem as though they were put together by people who wished they were anywhere else. Yep it's me - the guy who keeps posting SLAVAS in the fb group.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 3 жыл бұрын
Great job as always with the video! While it's been said before in the comments, the movement is the 15-jewel 2602 that was shared between Podeba (Victory) and ZIM (Maslennikov Plant, or Zavod Imeni Maslennikova). However, the 2602 also holds the distinction of being the longest-produced Soviet watch caliber. It was made continuously from 1950 to the mid 2000s in the millions. Pobeda abandoned the 2602 sometime in the 1990s whereas ZIM produced it until their dissolution on June 30th, 2006. I have on a mid-1970s ZIM 2602 dress watch as I type this, and I find that the ZIMs are better finished in general than their Pobeda stablemates. It has AU10 gold plating and the movement even has decorative milling, which is very rare for a Soviet watch. It would be interesting for you to compare a ZIM with the Pobeda, as they are no more expensive or scarce on the old Fleabay.
@garnetnewton-wade6254
@garnetnewton-wade6254 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing a 'real' watch repair. It's great watching the professionals but you are obviously more a keen hobbiest and I learned more watching this video than many others.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! your right I am just an obsessed hobbyist and film as I go mistakes an all. Glad you have learnt some tips.
@donbrough6386
@donbrough6386 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. This is my birthday weekend and I’m sitting back this evening with glass of wine, watching you sort this watch out. Brilliant.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Well happy birthday Don!
@DominikFerencik
@DominikFerencik 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on this small watch. I bought two 1954 Pobeda's for 30€ about a year ago, one in perfect condition, the other one was running quite fast. Took it to watchmaker for repair, he did it for another 20€. Both are in great condition, I polished acrylic crystals and use them now as daily beaters - literally. Construction works, electrics, woodworking... they are great daily watches as you wont even notice them on your wrist (32 and 33 mm cases.) I highly recommend anyone who wants to get into mechanical watches to start with something like that - they are cheap, at least in Central Europe you can get them repaired in every watch/jewelry store and you can later move on to something more expensive.
@dusan.djumic
@dusan.djumic 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Among the first watches I practiced on was this model. It was very difficult for me to put everything together as it was before. For now, I'm 15 Pobeda. Thank you, and keep recording another Russian watch.
@ccooper8785
@ccooper8785 Жыл бұрын
Every time you mentioned finding wet oil and gunk during disassembly I thought of the classic Timex solution of dropping the whole thing in some petrol 😱 Maybe I should give it a go; now where did I leave my hammer...🤔
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Жыл бұрын
Haha I did a video on servicing a basic timex
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 4 жыл бұрын
Its a Zim movement 2602, common between Zim and Pobeda. Soviet watch branding is very complex, Pobeda was Stalin's "pet" and like Vostok/Raketa is still original having survived the collapse. I would really recommend you get one from each brand just for comparison, the almost bulletproof Vostok to the complex twin mainspring Slava, the Poljot/Sekonda 3133 chronographs are incredibly cool and Sekonda was a brand invented for us British because we were not going to buy Zim or Slava any lifetime soon. Pulsar collaborated too with Belarusian Elektronika to produce the early red LED watches that we all remember, Elektronika were pretty big in the digital watch world and many were rebranded for the west. Sekonda, sounding bohemian a bit was born and there were British people who would swear Sekonda was British made. Cornavin was the American version of Sekonda although Poljot did some stuff for Jean Calcot with the blood red "fish eye" just about the most cool looking piece going.
@carloscarvalhido2424
@carloscarvalhido2424 4 жыл бұрын
I believe Poljot was also Cardinal in Canada :)
@AhuCJ
@AhuCJ 4 жыл бұрын
Wow nice comment
@maxprivus
@maxprivus 4 жыл бұрын
speak of the devil - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJu4cq2Mi82fiKs - nice to see the 3133 getting some recognition in its afterlife. If Mike is accepting recommendations, the 3017 is a worthy movement with lots of history. It would have to be in a Strela of course - then you could even do a comparison with the later 3133 Strela's to highlight the different chrono designs.
@lafaina79
@lafaina79 3 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting, so what would be the more "higher end" brand movement?
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 3 жыл бұрын
@@lafaina79 Poljot (meaning "flight") is often considered the absolute best marque the Soviet Union had to offer. The brand had its earliest beginnings in the First Moscow Watch Factory, created under the orders of Stalin in 1930 following the sale of the American and defunct Dueber-Hampden Watch Co. The "golden age" of Soviet watchmaking is generally considered to be the 1950s-1980s, so Poljot would feature heavily there.
@NomadicPhoton
@NomadicPhoton 3 жыл бұрын
I've recently started into the hobby of watchmaking/repair and a Raketa 2609 was my first repair, after that two Pobeda 2602s and now a Poljot 2614.2H. Lovely video, for the price on eBay, you really can't beat Russian watches for learning pieces. Some of them are quite lovely watches when they're given a little love.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
I agree as a place to start you get a lot for your money. One day I will bring a Sekonda Deluxe to the channel. The movement on those are amazing yet completely unloved.
@jeff1176
@jeff1176 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the Russian musical interludes at the cleaning portion and at the end. Keep up the great work.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Pleased a few of you noticed my Russian inspired music
@МихаилМарков-к9л
@МихаилМарков-к9л 2 жыл бұрын
С большим удовольствием смотрю канал. Успехов Вам! Волга, Самара, Михаил.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 жыл бұрын
thank you.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 4 жыл бұрын
I only have two Pobeda's in my collection, one a green tiger's eye UFO beastie, the other a rare 1950's national science award one on an exquisite tooled cuff band that someone won as first prize for coming top in a Soviet league of science students. The history just on that is quite amazing, watch works too albeit for 15 mins as the mainspring is gummed up but its so fragile I have just leather fed the strap, cleaned the exterior and put it away in a cool display box. I have attained well past my 100 in personal collection and have started work on the video showcasing them in batches e.g. Seiko's, Soviets, antiques etc etc
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 3 жыл бұрын
I got a red UFO coming. Hard to get a UFO that isn't worn back to bare brass on the back.
@gopalakrishnanramaswamy6562
@gopalakrishnanramaswamy6562 3 жыл бұрын
Mr.Mike ia a wonderful and the Greatest watchmaker.Any challenging watches will obey him.
@gartmorn
@gartmorn 4 жыл бұрын
Great little watch. I like the idea of a £5 watch. Nothing to lose and everything to gain on a practical everyday watch with reasonable looks! Must look out for one!
@JeffBreyer
@JeffBreyer 9 ай бұрын
Gotta say thats actually a beautiful timepiece.
@davidwebb3253
@davidwebb3253 4 жыл бұрын
Great video with something a bit different . As always the "warts & all" presentation is a winner, any mistakes not edited out & its good to feel that Michael is still learning ,along with the rest of us. Thanks again.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David
@ДмитрийМихнуто
@ДмитрийМихнуто 4 жыл бұрын
Хорошие часы времён СССР. Простые в применении и практичны. Вам удачи.
@jeffp565
@jeffp565 3 жыл бұрын
Translation for English speakers: "A good watch from the times of the USSR. Easy to use and practical. Good luck to you. "
@glenh4971
@glenh4971 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial video as far as I am concerned. Thank you very much for putting so much time into this video. Very helpful.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Apologies for some of the sound. I am trying a new Mic and its not always been good at sound capture.
@MirceaD28
@MirceaD28 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Back in the day when these watches where plenty in my country (Romania) they where very cheap. If you wanted a watch and did't have to much money this was the one. This is the base model in terms of the caliber. From this one there are 3 (i believe ) version: Raketa base Pobeda, Pobeda itself, and Slava based Pobeda. The Raketa version has a jewel on the 4th wheel in the bridge. There is one important thing you have to check on this one . Since there is no jewel on the 4th wheel you have to check for wear in the base plate and on the bridge. If there is, you can fix it using the special punch to reform the hole and use the reamer after. The same goes for the mainspring hub on the main plate and bridge. Please do a Slava 2427 movement repair
@theshadowman1398
@theshadowman1398 Жыл бұрын
I have my grand grand father watch witch is a zim with the same movement and case. Will be bringing it to my jeweler to have a full service of the movement and case refinishing to return it to an as new condition. Will look great in a watch ox with my Swiss pieces. Mine still runs when wound so that is a good thing.
@tjwright
@tjwright 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see this in my recommended feed today... I have this same watch (but with a white face - same case and movement), and mine needs a service. I didn't even know what the movement was called because I didn't see any markings when I first opened the case. So glad I saw this today!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@hamishspencer
@hamishspencer 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not positive but I think that plexi is afflicted with what's called 'crazing'. Good vid. Thanks.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@maxprivus
@maxprivus 4 жыл бұрын
that's right, specifically 'stress crazing' - there's likely some bias in the case tension on the crystal that has imposed tensile strain across that region of the crystal. That can result in fine cracks perpendicular to the stress which accumulate over time - flexing from temperature and pressure changes are primary contributors
@SuperCookiemonser
@SuperCookiemonser 3 жыл бұрын
Pobedas are pretty solid, simple but solid. I've got one with the same movement and it keeps time quite well. Currently trying to get one with a central second running. Will use this video as a guide, since they are pretty similar. If I may recommend you something in the same flavour: Raketa watches. These are really good watches and are probably my favourite soviet brand.
@walther9161
@walther9161 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched again and still learned something!! Love the vids here in the U.S.
@Andrew-J316
@Andrew-J316 4 жыл бұрын
Nice watch for 5 pounds! Thanks for showing us this!
@dennisc.1189
@dennisc.1189 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the looks of this watch, it cleaned up nicely. 😊
@walther9161
@walther9161 2 жыл бұрын
Cool Watch and great explanation
@carloscarvalhido2424
@carloscarvalhido2424 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm a fan of soviet watches so I'm very glad you decided to service one. I hope it won't be the last... :)
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Not at all , I have a Sekonda movement and somewhere a Poljot so perhaps they might make the channel
@diadia-Vadia-75
@diadia-Vadia-75 11 ай бұрын
good work in relation to the clock
@flaviuvacanta1
@flaviuvacanta1 3 жыл бұрын
You helped me a lot. I have 6 of these, the case is aluminium, easy to polish. But I think they are older than yours, they are "Geneva finish" on the machine. All my colleagues when they where 14, received from parents a Pobeda. I hated Pobeda an wanted a OREX. To be 14 without a Pobeda, it was like today without a Iphone.
@ianforfun1
@ianforfun1 Жыл бұрын
I'm a new subscriber after watching My Mate Vince and although I'm ashamed to admit it, I have an eBay cheap £11 watch which is quartz and amazingly, it keeps time with the atomic clock on my wall . Now I'm hooked on wind-up watches. I just love the ingenuity of the mechanics and might give it a go! Great few videos I've seen so far and thank you! Ian
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Жыл бұрын
Any quartz watch no matter how cheap will keep amazing time. most will be more accurate than any mechanical watch despite the price. Read up on the "quartz crisis" when quartz watches came out it ruined the mechanical watch industry in Switzerland.
@jwoodyr1
@jwoodyr1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Loved your music selection during cleaning.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
jwoodyr1 yeay someone noticed my Russian inspired music! Thanks appreciate that
@kellypaws
@kellypaws 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches I love the music. What is it?
@kellypaws
@kellypaws 4 жыл бұрын
Russian Dance, by Joey Pecoraro. Found it.
@brianhawkins7278
@brianhawkins7278 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting.
@johnny6171
@johnny6171 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting job! Thank you so much!
@BilgemasterBill
@BilgemasterBill 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for letting us look over your shoulder. Folks may go on about the Omega Speedmaster being "The Iconic Spacewatch", but it was one of these humble Pobeda (pronounced "Puhb-YAY-dah") that was first in space, with Yuri Gagarin.
@tickingWATCH
@tickingWATCH 4 жыл бұрын
It's ZIM 2602 but there is another version with shock protection I think 2603, used also by Raketa and Vostok. Nice video :)
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Daryl357w
@Daryl357w 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect cleaning music.
@MirceaD28
@MirceaD28 4 жыл бұрын
Here a tip for you. When arranging the wheels in the jewels place the screws that holds the bridge in place but screw it just a little so that the bridge doesn't lift that much and doesn't moves sideways. Try this and you will see what I mean. Don't drop this watch because it doesn't have a anti sock system on the balance
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t really do that , done it before on Accutrons and if you are not careful you can break a pinion . Thank for the tip though
@skipstalforce
@skipstalforce 3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, I dropped mine and it stopped. Gave it a couple taps with my finger and lucky it started again.
@rafaellondono259
@rafaellondono259 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos
@adrianbirkett594
@adrianbirkett594 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for advice Mike. 👍
@Inkreptile
@Inkreptile 4 жыл бұрын
Yes победа stands for victory Very interesting watch...
@ICHIBANDIPPER
@ICHIBANDIPPER 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, thank you. Happy New year. 🍻
@aaronwatch3214
@aaronwatch3214 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Seems like this particular movement is temperamental but you got it to within 1 min per day.
@Giant056
@Giant056 3 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy watching your watch videos, I like tinkering with them also, probably the most epic thing I've done to a watch was an old Seiko that someone had gotten into trying to calibrate it with a slip to bend the balance wheel spring, I actually successfully straightened it out and it's now still keeping exceptional time. I'm presently wearing a Vostok Amphibia I bought about 15+ years ago, I put a different band on it which I really like plus replaced another crystal on it 2 days ago, it's beautiful again only gaining about 5 seconds a day. I've recently been catching up watching your videos and another guy from Australia's videos as well.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for tuning in. this hobby is a good place to loose all your day to day stresses!
@fredscratchet1355
@fredscratchet1355 2 ай бұрын
I only stumbled across your channel recently so am working my way through your videos. I also own one of these with a beautiful deep red dial and it runs quite well. I may be wrong but yours looks like a typical Ebay bitsa watch that someone has probably built up from a pile of old movements. I used to collect Indian HMT watches and certain sellers were notorious for that. Luckily I had some contacts in India who could buy brand new watches from the factory.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. Nice to see people still watch these older videos. Enjoy my channel and thanks for all videos you might watch.
@skipstalforce
@skipstalforce 3 жыл бұрын
You must be seeing the same Ebay pages I do. I bought a pobeda for 22 dollars. Beautiful looking but cheap, dropped it out of the pack from the mail and broke the crystal! Surprise, it's actually sapphire.
@smitmachinale8281
@smitmachinale8281 4 жыл бұрын
I realy love the Smith timer you have by the cleaning machine!
@Orwic1
@Orwic1 4 жыл бұрын
Smit Machinale Seeing that timer reminded me of working in science labs many years ago - we used to use them for timing experiments / procedures. Solid, reliable, robust machines (and actually easier to use than the modern push button electronic timers used now).
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
I bought it at a watch fair a while ago. The owner actually recognised me from this channel. Had no idea what I’d use it for but just liked the look. It’s now a key piece to my cleaning regime
@smitmachinale8281
@smitmachinale8281 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches Mike, that is a great find.
@Orwic1
@Orwic1 4 жыл бұрын
My Retro Watches i still have an old Junghans timer, with luminous hands that goes up to one hour. Made for photography darkrooms. In a previous life I spent many hours in darkrooms with the sound of that loud ticking. Now reborn as an occasional kitchen timer!
@Neqael.
@Neqael. 3 жыл бұрын
Привет из России :). Hello from Russia, where you don't wind your watch, but your watch winds you :).
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
haha. thank you sir!
@machinistmikethetinkerer4827
@machinistmikethetinkerer4827 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Horotec levers. All I ever use.
@conzmoleman
@conzmoleman 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow I’m wearing this *exact* watch now only with a white dial and blued steel hands
@markwade1376
@markwade1376 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid I too enjoy working on soviet watches, makes a change from swiss/Japanese.
@fl106c
@fl106c 2 жыл бұрын
That really is a nice font.
@shushilnavsaria4515
@shushilnavsaria4515 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent job well done. Thank you. I just started this hobby. I'm too scared to remove all the parts. What if you remove the balance wheel, pallet fork, maybe the barrel harbor, clean the jewel holes from both sides. Make the train run again and put back the parts that u taken out.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
You do what you feel confident with . All small steps. Reality is the more you clean the better it will be. Good luck
@АндрейНикитенко-ф4с
@АндрейНикитенко-ф4с 4 жыл бұрын
You got far from the best model of Russian watches. It was a cheap mass watch. But you have dealt with it. I'm glad to like your video.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have done more work on it to make it run better. Now its to within +/- 10 seconds a day. Not bad for an old mass produced watch. Thanks for watching.
@splitscreenjc
@splitscreenjc 4 жыл бұрын
Superb. I have two vintage Pobeda Kama that I'm going to get into as an improver as I invest in more tools and kit. I have a couple of Vostok Amphibia too but they keep great time just now. I'd really love to see some of the off camera fiddling bits because i feel that's where I'd be too! Cheers and off to read some of your tool recommendations!
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv 3 жыл бұрын
I love your timer. What brand and model is it? Do a video of it. It is a very interesting piece. I have been collecting over 30 years.
@DanielBerroteran
@DanielBerroteran 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is despised ... the watchmaking industry may not have the sophistication of the Swiss and Japanese but they have managed through the years to achieve very acceptable watches with capabilities for day to day that are surprising for the technical solutions they have achieved over time ... a great example is that of the Vostok and Raqueta brand which are highly appreciated for their durability and robustness ... in addition to the price ... they offer robustness, simplicity and countless models. improved designs and their distribution within the reach of several markets ... even quartz models, here if I'm not clear what caliber they have and their quality.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 4 жыл бұрын
The strange clamp ring was indication that whichever watch factory likely Zim were short on screws and clamp pieces so would opt for the very cheap alternative which is a compression setup, when the caseback was screwed down it tensioned the movement firmly in place but being very mild steel the clamps lost their tension and you ended up with a clacky loose affair in there. You could read the various Soviet resource crisis in a Soviet watch, copper shortages meant all steel balances and pinions, the Soviets lacking chrome would have mild steel cases, even the lume's became white or coloured paint in times of shortage of phospor's but they were lavish with gold with a good AU10 plating as a general, there were times of AU5 microns and sometimes AU20 but those were rare and 10 microns is pretty good.
@JAY61ish
@JAY61ish 4 жыл бұрын
I thought they used brass a lot for its softness. Then chromed it.
@joncooke2450
@joncooke2450 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, as always, another great video😀 Just out of interest, is that some sort of varnish on your peg wood? Also, was it just me or did anyone else shout at the screen when you were trying to put the crown wheel on?! 😂
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Haha you mean you all knew I had the wheel on the wrong way?? Honestly I did not know at the time. My only excuse is i am sitting further away than without a camera so some jobs I just can’t really see what I’m doing . As for pegwood it’s covered in superglue! I needed something to put a drop on to fix one of my daughters toys. Ironically I now find the pegwood works better with the coating .
@joncooke2450
@joncooke2450 4 жыл бұрын
My Retro Watches thanks for the info on the pegwood, I have been considering something like that as I often find the doesn’t hold a point very long!😉 I have also been looking for the substitutes “plastic pegwood” but struggling to find some. As for the wheel, it was the fact that you put the retaining piece (disk) on first meant that the actual gear was never going to stay put!😜😂
@tedblack2415
@tedblack2415 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the timing clock for the cleaners,makes me laugh every time it goes off,oh & a worthy job as well.
@hiteck007
@hiteck007 2 жыл бұрын
Mate where did you score that timer clock for your parts washer?? I could use one of those & great job by the way. That Russian thing looked a bit tricky & it was interesting to see how much they did the same as everyone else but with their little own additions. keep working on those unusual ones, their the most interesting
@Mtlmshr
@Mtlmshr 3 ай бұрын
Good Looking dial
@fatheroffive2657
@fatheroffive2657 4 жыл бұрын
Great video I believe the lift angle should be 42 try resetting the perimeters on the timegrapher and see if some of the background noise cleans up
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a good tip. I will try that later . Thank you
@jeffreydheere4737
@jeffreydheere4737 9 ай бұрын
I bought one like that off of Ebay. It said Zim on the dial but the same font for the numerals. The listing said 'Working but in need of a service'. When I popped the back open - no balance assembly. But again, it was inexpensive, from Ukraine. I've been searching, but I haven't found any donor movements with a working balance or intact hairspring. The movement was a Zim Pobeda 2602. The only difference I see is that the crown wheel on mine has two small screws while this one has the single reverse threaded screw.
@johnmillward8326
@johnmillward8326 Жыл бұрын
The word for the acrylic cracking is crazed.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 4 жыл бұрын
You Sir, are a star :) I've now invested in a timegrapher so have the last tool I needed to actually start stripping and servicing movements and I have stacked tubs of movements just waiting for a chance to shine again :) I've been battling a terribly magnetised Poljot Mockba 80 from Israel, its taken several good zaps to get it to a point where its not adding an hour in half an hour, you would like Poljot movements as they were pretty well done. Did you catch my grail of grails find video? A brand new, never worn Sekonda branded 1970's "tank" super heavy automatic watch in original box... £14 I kid you not, then yesterday an Aeromatic full chrono with rotary slide rule dropped as well into my hands... the gods of ebay are being kind right now :D :D :D
@Inkreptile
@Inkreptile 4 жыл бұрын
A pro tip for fitting the train bridge... Already screw the bridge in till you feel the slightest resistance then turn the gear closest to the barrel and almost everytime the other pivots will find their way into the jewels... Also I use my bare eyes for most of a watch... I use a x15 loupe for HS manipulation...
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Ive never been a fan of placing the screws before the pinions are located. I have had first hand experience of breaking a wheel through thinking it was in place. You are lucky to use your eyes, as you know i only have one good one and that is failing now too. I am now using a loupe when i am not filming (filming I can only use a visor as the watch is almost at arms length away.) liking a loupe!
@Inkreptile
@Inkreptile 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches yeah I know you have eye problems 😢 It's really unfortunate and I'm really blessed to still have good eyes after all they've been trough... Staring at welding sticks mainly.............. Sparks from a short...
@daves6259
@daves6259 2 жыл бұрын
Great Entertainment keep it Coming
@jimbojet8728
@jimbojet8728 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very good, very enjoyable vid. It’s been good. You have a new sub. Thank you
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your subscription
@OriginalFinnish22
@OriginalFinnish22 4 жыл бұрын
Russian is very interesting always !!!
@Inkreptile
@Inkreptile 4 жыл бұрын
The Breguet HS isn't too hard to manipulate but be aware that the HS with the overcoil needs to stay concentric and with a Breguet overcoil this is a bit more difficult especially if the fatness of the HS was disturbed... I took me around a hour to bend a Breguet overcoil for an old omega pocketwatch 😁 Running great now
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
thanks. Hairspring does look nice and concentric so could be just something touching in dial up or the balance jewel that I have not looked at. Do have done those would have added another 30 mins on this already too long video.
@j_freeman3230
@j_freeman3230 2 жыл бұрын
6:14 this is why im here lol Thanks for the video!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I’ve helped.
@j_freeman3230
@j_freeman3230 2 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches one of the hands have fallen off my paboda, and i need to pull the stem before i can get the movement out. Ive played with old junk watches where the stem pulls right out, and ive found that some are secured, so i didnt want to make an old mistake(:
@AlexN-jn6gg
@AlexN-jn6gg 3 жыл бұрын
Great Russian Watch cleaning sound track! Who is it?
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
not sure to be honest I use the KZbin audio library for my music as in there its all royalty free.I just searched Russian and this one was the best sounding option to go with.
@jesper99
@jesper99 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I just wanted to let you know this is a 671356 Pobeda with the 2602 Zim movement in the 1987 catalogue.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jenilocke8255
@jenilocke8255 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed watching this. Lol was just typing ?ostrich band just as you said faux ostrich band, it suits the watch. Look forward to the next video.⌚👍
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeni. It’s a leather scrap masquerading as ostrich . You can get ostrich bands and they are nice but expensive. Same with stingray! They are gorgeous straps but £50 upwards
@PanzergrauModels
@PanzergrauModels 3 ай бұрын
I just finished servicing the same movement; same dissapointment in regard to the timegraph readind: the line is parallel and not scattered, but wobbly :( Let's see how it performs in real life now!
@visio-watch
@visio-watch 2 жыл бұрын
Интересное видео.
@JAY61ish
@JAY61ish 4 жыл бұрын
This watch is amazing.. that dial! ! Any chance of sorting out the case at some point Michael?
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
case would need replating. I have actually looked at some "home" kits so who knows I may revisit one day.
@JAY61ish
@JAY61ish 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches That would be brill..
@leboncanard1666
@leboncanard1666 3 жыл бұрын
New ones come up on EBay every now and then.
@chrisj2713
@chrisj2713 4 жыл бұрын
Neato. I do like to see you get out of your comfort zone
@adrianbirkett594
@adrianbirkett594 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, great video. Was the glass pop in or did you glue it?. Good job. 👍
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Friction fit, probably could do with a tension ring crystal if I am honest.
@anair70
@anair70 4 жыл бұрын
I like Russian watches.. The movements are robust and it's only the cases which let the whole watch down. I think you can adjust the sensitivity of the mike by pushing the arrow button up/down as the timer is reading the signal... At least it does on mine.
@moskauuhrmacher6833
@moskauuhrmacher6833 4 жыл бұрын
You need to inspect balance staff jewels on cracks, find out is it some endshake in balance staff, inspect balance staff pivots and polish them on some 12.000+ grit oilstone (just a few passes should be enough). Also, try to inspect hairspring in all positions. It easily can touch balance wheel in "dial down" position.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I dont really have the confidence to polish the balance staff as that surely would mean removing it from the balance which I have not learnt to do yet. I might take a closer look at the hairspring to see if its touching on dial up. The video was long enough without any fault finding . Thank you for your advise.
@deceptor99
@deceptor99 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when the iron curtain fell. I got a russian watch that had Murmansk on the dial. I traded it but now, I wonder what it was.This was before i new anything about watches.
@andreylaube4670
@andreylaube4670 3 жыл бұрын
This is typical 2602 movement. This is Lip french movement. Early production named Pobeda was started on 1 Moscow watch factory(later Poljot) by arrangement Stalin after WWII. First years watches included Geneva waves and marks letters Pobeda at a movement. Watches were produced at 1 Moscow watch factory(later Poljot(Flight), 2 Moscow watch factory Slava(Glory), Petrodvorets factory (later Raketa (Rocket) near St. Peterburg(Leningrad), Chistopol factory (later Wostok), ZIM factory in Samara.
@anair70
@anair70 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love these cheap Russian watches, quite a few of them have Breguet hairsprings. The poor dial up tinegrapher trace will probably improve when you get around to cleaning and oiling the balance cock jewels.
@Antonioivse
@Antonioivse 2 жыл бұрын
That's not Russian watch. That's Soviet watch. You are lucky to have it.
@belgianmechanic3971
@belgianmechanic3971 4 жыл бұрын
Did you check the end-shake on the balance? To much could mean there is wear and friction on the parts, especially dial up...
@lotsatrains
@lotsatrains 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice job, I like the font on that a whole lot, did you end up replacing the crystal or did you polish it up somehow?
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Crystal was replaced. Fortunately I bought a big job lot of crystals and I just so happened to have this size.
@bottletree33
@bottletree33 4 жыл бұрын
I gave the exact same watch to my father in law. It had a black leather strap.
@remionthemoon
@remionthemoon 4 ай бұрын
Hey, How do you regulate it ?. I ordered this same watch on Etsy and plan to restore it as my first project.
@watchart9166
@watchart9166 4 жыл бұрын
Buy this someday
@spidiq8
@spidiq8 4 жыл бұрын
Nice colour dial. Don't fret overly about the readings. Many Russian watches have terrible positional variation even from new.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks pal . I’ve now read to try the lift angle on 42 as I’m way off at 52 . Should give me better readings
@spidiq8
@spidiq8 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches Yes that's another downside to Russian watches. Finding lift angle info online is virtually impossible.
@neilpiper9889
@neilpiper9889 4 жыл бұрын
The Raketa 2609ha 19 jewel movements are superior to the cheap Pobeda 15 jewel movement. Soviet dials are very interesting and different.
@karthiksampatharao7790
@karthiksampatharao7790 4 жыл бұрын
Hai sir Love from India 🐅🐅🐅
@НиколайАлексеев-п4щ
@НиколайАлексеев-п4щ 3 жыл бұрын
Soviet movements coded as following: first two digits is caliber diameter in mm, second two digits represents movement type - for instance 02 is a separate second hand w/o shock absorbtions for ballance, 09 is central second hand and shockproof ballance etc. But stuppied and crazy thing is that 2209 from Raketa is completely different from 2209 Wostok etc. So, number represents only the size and principe of caliber design. To differ movements you needs combine manufacture name and caliber numeric type.
@KrisHandsome
@KrisHandsome 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I have one of these Pobeda watches. Same case and numerals as this, but with a red dial and different hands. Seeing the tiny seconds hand moving faster than on a quartz watch was the most interesting thing in the world to me when I first got it.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 4 жыл бұрын
Red one. Bet that looks great. Thanks for watching
@DongHoDocLa
@DongHoDocLa 4 жыл бұрын
hello nice video like!
@davidhammond9336
@davidhammond9336 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, as always great video. Nice looking watch. What are the dimensions?
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