RUST On A 2016 Acura?

[@rickdee67]

I spent 30+ years in collision repair and I’ve seen tons of videos of hacks “repairs” for rust , this cat knows what he’s doing! Nice work young man!

[@jonathanyates5198]

Kyle is freaking awesome

[@edfx]

Completery rust free on the inside, what the hell, never seen anything like this.

[@DaywordRacing]

You could see the paint peel on the inside of the panel. Almost makes a ripple effect.

[@jamespn]

Acura’s rust through warranty is 5 years with no mileage limit.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

Yeah and they will replace it with the same parts that caused the problem in the first place. Total junk.

[@jamespn]

@@bigmacdaddy1234 I had a 1987 Plymouth Horizon, engine replaced under warranty, and it had a 7 year 100,000 mile outer body rust through warranty where they replaced 2 of the 4 doors and rear hatch, no charge.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

@@jamespn I don't see any Plymouth Horizon's around today, so they all must have rusted away.

[@Innochamp]

A 4y old car rusted like hell - what an indictment!

[@derrickblagg2190]

You and I are the kings of the rocker panel repair. I do all the Ford f 150 crew cabs from 2009 to 2014. They all go too soon in the cab corner and rockers. The ones that go the fastest are the trucks that have the power sliding rear glass. The drain tubes on the glass both end up inside the cab corner and keep it wet in there . Job security for sure, but I hate taking the beds loose with those lousy torque bit before bolts. Takes a torch almost every time. Keep making these videos, people will see what it takes to be a body tech who isn’t afraid to work.

[@pvgtn1234]

Removing welding points sound like a dentist working on my teeth :')

[@seikoandora6485]

Teeth.

[@pvgtn1234]

@@seikoandora6485 corrected thx!

[@jimroger9461]

Bro No cap. Since I came across you on Snapchat, Motivated me to work on my car and man I’m learning a lot. Good Look 💯💯💯

[@BlueCollarKyle]

Thanks man I’m glad my content has been able to help!

[@Blue-moon12]

Amazing job. I admire people like you who can do this type of work

[@samg5543]

The parts are short because they are cut from a single stamping. There is material loss at the cut area.

[@rOUNDeGGROLL]

You can spot weld through e-coat just FYI. A lot of people dont know this but you dont have to grind the backside of the panels (where the 2 panels actually meet) to spot weld. It prevents you grinding too much of the e-coat away and causing pre-mature rusting in the future. You can still spray your weld thru primer but I'd suggest leaving the e-coat on the backsides of the panels to prevent future corrosion.

[@brarautorepairs]

I've watched a few body repair videos and they are grinding both sides to make the spot wield

[@rOUNDeGGROLL]

@@brarautorepairs You only need/should grind the 2 contact points on the spot welder tips. Any more than that and you can cause premature corrosion. Weld thru primer isnt corrosion protection because you need heat to activate it. If you grind a whole flange but only weld 1 spot every 4-6 inches, what about the rest of the bare metal? The weld thru primer will just wipe off if its not activated by the high heat temps of a welder. Its why major manufacturers are telling people not to use weld thru primer anymore.

[@brarautorepairs]

@@rOUNDeGGROLL awesome thanks for the tips. One other question for you. If I'm going to do rust repairs, lot of people just lap weld a new sheet on top of the bare metal. Shouldn't you apply a primer before applying bondo? What about the backside of the metal and wielding? Aren't those subject to rust again since you might not be able to coat everything with a rust primer? The alternative I see is not to do any body repair with metal but fiberglass or fiberglass reinforced bondo since you can grind off the rust, protect the bare metal and apply a new coat of primer and bondo

[@jonathanyates5198]

That's crazy on a 2016

[@afternoongarage]

Wow this was great. Love how you show everything. Hours of video in on 9 minute clip. Nicely done friend.

[@histriamagna1014]

This is incredible. A company like Honda cannot permit it.

[@brarautorepairs]

Honda love to rust. They are built with the cheapest material

[@histriamagna1014]

@@brarautorepairs Probably poor zinc coating. Who knows...

[@brarautorepairs]

@@histriamagna1014 the older Hondas used recycled steel which had higher levels of oxygen causing those cars to rust sooner.

[@bgee461]

Hondas don't rust more than any other car, just happens to be in an area that's more visible than other cars. Except older Volvo cars, those things are unbelievable.

[@brarautorepairs]

@@bgee461 Rear quarter rust outs and frames on Accords and Civics are so common. Meanwhile, I am driving a 2006 Mercedes E350 with no visible body rust in a snow belt. It has over 300k on it. I love my Hondas but they look ugly with that rust on them

[@lewism6485]

Flooded?

[@RideCamVids]

A great repair but why did you not put any primer onto the interior side of the new panels ?

[@wtrdogg20]

If my car goes thru that process, because it is rusting after barely 5 years since purchased, I don't care whether the process is under warranty and all, I will simply get rid of it! Too many body parts and work done in a car that is not even 10 years and has't suffered any crash damage to be fixed. Good job done on the repair, and that is just what I need to be able to sell it ASAP.

[@bigrich439555]

The 11th gen Ford F-150’s are known for the rocker panels rusting because of the brake light on the top of the roof.🤔

[@desmomotodesmomoto2033]

Possible to glue the rocker to the body, using new body panel glue that are using for new cars, instead of welding? to save time and money if statics not important?

[@jamesgrabowski5782]

It could have been in Syracuse NY for just one winter and the next year have it rusted out. They get on average 120” of snow a year and they are constantly dumping rock salt on the roads from November to March.

[@brianlachapelle8757]

I wish he would shown the inside of the panel as to why the rust failure! The inside of the mating panel looks fine.

[@Bamsebrakar2011]

This shows the importance of undercoating. It was surprising to see that the structural chassis underneath appeared as new.

[@chads8720]

Wicked video brother ..I'm a mechanic from the east coast nova Scotia.....our stuff decenagrates in like 2 weeks from new lol...

[@sswankk0070]

Could you have gone about attaching the panel with panel bond instead of welding all around?

[@Bzapp725]

Does the spot welding blow holes in the outer panel if you don't sand off the factory coatings on the inside of the outer panel?

[@Michal-ps9jx]

Radioactive japanesse steel.

[@Woodie7]

What is more shocking than rust on 2016 car - someone doing the actual proper repair using spot-welder. This is close to factory quality. You have to respect that

[@mercedesmaintenance.6339]

So you're just using a 1/2 mini belt sander to break the spot welds? Which grit is that? Very effective and clean. Nice job.

[@itiskelpy]

I use a mini belt sander as well to break spot welds and I use 36 grit

[@thelegendaryblackbeastofar39]

In many videos, I see people drilling out the spot welds instead of using a belt sander. They then use a spot welding stick on the holes to join the panels. What are the pros & cons of the two methods?

[@EFFEZE]

Why section a b pillar right in the middle of 2 bolt holes. You had so much choice of a bit higher or lower but you picked through the holes?

[@nickcove7355]

How are you hanging your blanket to protect the interior ?

[@MrDanthemaniam]

A little more careful inspection mode of revealed that the rust was all on the outside. This was caused by contamination prior to painting. This repair was way more extensive than what was required and actually resulted in an as repaired condition which is more vulnerable to corrosion than a simple spot fix with proper cleaning, corrosion inhibitor, bondo and paint. It would have been faster less expensive and more reliable.

[@dewaynek8591]

The quarter to rocker section is short because they start out with a complete uniside and cut them into pieces the missing bit is material removed by either a big chop saw or a plasma cutter. For how much those parts cost you’d think they could at least sell a whole rocker. Hope the shop got paid for the 4th section you had to do.

[@kynkai]

I'd guess it was some sort of manufacturing defect... Like the sheet metal was already starting to rust on one spot when they installed it.

[@TheCalifornia051]

I have that same frame machine lol! And that daily myself ! Been doing it for 25 years ! Looks like fun but we all know the bondo part sucks at the weld seams after welding it all in lol! Takes the longest lol!

[@Burninwithcurran]

What’s the tool called that you use to pull out dents that just basically welds the tip to the body and twist to break off

[@ryannse]

Loads of different ones on the market. Miracle stud puller i use. Have used a flatliner and gys too.

[@TomB1988]

Nice. I know it wasn't rusted from the inside out, but why don't they use any cavity wax from factory, assuming it's too costly? I guess on a car like this no one plans to keep it forever anyway.

[@goodfodder]

shocking, my father’s 2002 Citroen has lived it’s whole life outdoors yet does not have any rust. Modern cars made to last 5 years

[@MussaKZN]

My 1989 Toyota Hilux doesn’t have any rust but it is garaged, but still 4years old car with peno rust that’s ridiculous !!!!!

[@MonguzTea]

My 2002 Citroen C5 is still rust free. My 1990 XM needs some work but its not as bad as this acura.

[@andrewv6118]

I didn't saw inner rust on that panel. The problem came from outside , a scratch left untreated for a year,two, or more. So I think user fault

[@d1zguy864]

yep thats why I always keep clear nail polish in the car to quickly dab any metal scratches, at least it seals it from air, and moisture

[@federicopena4418]

What type of spot welder is that? It’s really nice tool

[@سعيدالعجمي-ق4د]

Good job, brother have a nice day greetings, your followers from the Sultanate of Oman🇴🇲

[@garywinterbottom6073]

High carbon steel rust much quicker than older metal used once the paint or galvanized coating has been compromised.

[@bobx5400]

Hey Kyle, what’s the name/brand of the pneumatic hand help wire wheel tool you show in this video? Would like to get one.

[@dorsetengineering]

That's a monti or mbx 'bristle blaster'

[@Dabber422]

What part of the world is this? Road salt/winters? That was really rotted for the year.....

[@christianjohnson6907]

Just out of curiosity, you mention these procedures and what they recommend, how do you get your hands on these procedural guides?

[@GG-dt4sb]

From OEM I believe and you have to pay either for a 48 hour view, 30 day or year subscription,

[@ryantaube6546]

Why do you grind the back side of the new panels. ?

[@jumpinjojo]

Ryan Taube So the weld takes.

[@bluecardholder]

I have a 2016 Nissan and not a spot of rust on it, and we have salt on the road in the winter.

[@robj2704]

Really odd that the panel would rust out like that. Looks like it rusted out from the inside to the outside. The inner panels look perfectly fine.

[@LatersOnTheMenjay.]

AMAZING work dude!

[@reallynotbob6]

I used to work in sales (Chevy/GM/Buick) and they would have a 3 year 36k warranty on corrosion and 6 year 100k warranty for rust perforation (or rust-through, if it actually effects the structural integrity of the components). That was probably the deal why it's a warranty job. Not sure exactly what Honda/Acura does but it's probably similar.

[@jonathanyates5198]

My 08 Silverado is full of rust

[@pedronavaja223s]

This is crazy that job was quite difficult but well done for sure 💯 I did auto collision myself but I’m not that nice

[@vegitoblue7908]

Hi kyle. From. What company or supplier do you get those replacement panels?? Thanks in advance

[@OOpSjm]

Looks like something was trapped in the door seal area and started eating away at the panel.

[@bendude6748]

I was disappointed finding rust on the rockers of my 2008 VW, at least it’s not this bad lol

[@josepalma6316]

💪 bonito trabalho ferramentas de ponta, curti aqui do Brazil 🇧🇷

[@grndiesel]

Hard to see, but it looks like the original rust happened form the outside...did I see that right?

[@skliros9235]

That's odd rust. I wonder if the paint got a deep scratch and was never taken care of. Then rust creeps under the paint....

[@clunk54]

We got a quick view of the back of the old panel and couldn't see any rust on the inside

[@The781971]

Where are you located I have a pickup truck with a little rust no body shops around where I live work on rust repair?

[@1018VORTEX]

What's the reasoning behind sectioning the rear quarter and having to do more body work vs replacing the whole rear quarter panel?

[@drummer_zay9493]

A lot more prep work… r&i of trunk,interior floor, cutting and busting spot welds, r&i glass, plus having to blend the bumper and trunk.. ya rather section and do body work, bub

[@donegal2010able]

I see there's a bit of metal on your rust

[@jenkins1281]

When you marking your spot welder spots on the new panel, how do you know the correct spots to mark for your new welds? Are you going by tge All Data sheet? Just wondering.

[@stereophonicstuff]

I second this question.

[@samg5543]

The OEM specifies a number of welds or you can just copy what was there, although you aren't supposed to reweld on the host panel in the exact same spots the factory did.

[@BlueCollarKyle]

It depends on the manufacturer, most want the same number of welds but not over the original weld. Some want 30% more welds or something like that.

[@stereophonicstuff]

@@BlueCollarKyle When you are prepping the panel for welding by sanding spots for the spot welds, how do you know where to sand on the vehicle so it matches the bare metal spots on the replacement panel? Just eyeball it?

[@jenkins1281]

@@BlueCollarKyle thanks man. Appreciate it

[@garyjarvis4058]

Japanese tuna cans have really bad rust protection. Nice repair.

[@charlesschulz8416]

Iam surprised the inner box section looks rust free not even the internal primer paint is flaked off you would expect that on 35 40 yr old car

[@kevinbailey7758]

What’s the paint you spray on before the welds ?

[@jonathanyates5198]

Weld thru primer. Stay away from the dupli color brand, it splatters bad

[@1emt95]

Been watching your vids for a while, I k ow theres all kinds of stuff that goes on off camera so with that said do you recommend this as a career. Currently burnt out and your vids make me very interested in this. Keep up the good work!

[@jonathanyates5198]

Good money can be made in a body shop, but not the small ones. They will usually screw you, gotta get into one like Kyle, or a dealership

[@jorgecampos9659]

I just got a little bit of rust on my 2004 Mazda 3

[@kurtriedmuller8223]

Great job Kyle!! What grit is that mini belt sander and how often do you have to change a belt on a rocker job and also who makes it I'm going to do a rocker job on my pick up I think I can tackle it from watching your vids

[@sebastianmazurek4433]

Great and very professional work Dude!

[@SampleT3xT_]

Hello i have question about Pre-spray for welding Im am scard if im gonna weld rocker panel can it start rusing from the inside and dose the pre weld spray will prevent that ?

[@thelegendaryblackbeastofar39]

I had the exact same question. How to prevent inside rusting. I know that many simply use a wax spray-can with a hose attachment and simply soak the insides with the stuff. It seems to hold up pretty well.

[@scrapbmxrider16]

Whats the spraypaint you are using on the inside of the panels

[@samg5543]

That's weld thru primer. I think Honda actually quit recommending it a few years ago so I'm not sure why he's using it on this job. Probably out of habit

[@ozthesoundguy]

You do amazing work!

[@BlueCollarKyle]

Thank you

[@rainman5438]

Brings back memories of honda rot from the 90s hondas..

[@fixinggrace]

Probably didn’t have any wax added to the inside

[@8teninini]

Nice work but how do you stop it from rusting from behind every time I welded a patch it rust there thx

[@nathanpetrohilos]

Weld through primer

[@timhancock6626]

That is how cars should be repaired. In the UK insurance companies write off lightly damaged cars that should be repaired all the time.

[@fonziebulldog5786]

How is that possible.

[@osvaldo8393]

That’s weird they let you use a backing plate lol I always get told no for everything lmao

[@EFFEZE]

Why not. Else you'd have a wide gap to weld with nothing to back it. You end up with a fat weld with no strength and that needs grinding back loads.

[@osvaldo8393]

@@EFFEZE uh no, if you’re I-Car certified they tell you not to because it’s going to harden the sectioning area, so your cut is supposed to be perfect that way you don’t need a backing. Hardening the sectioning are is going to make the sheet metal not collapse how it’s supposed to

[@EFFEZE]

@@osvaldo8393 a sill isn't a collaspable part of the crash structure per se. Obviously you section with accurate cuts but that's not always possible like in this case. So if you welded it without backing then the sill structure will be weaker than designed so will not act in the way it was designed in the first place. So it's always better to have a strong joint and weld than weak. Whoever has taught you otherwise needs sort their selves out.

[@osvaldo8393]

@@EFFEZE lol obviously , but body world is stupid af, you can’t have a backing on some flimsy quarter but yet I can section a lower inner pillar on an Audi, lol you need to straighten yourself out taking shit up the ass 😂

[@charliesgarageusa4986]

Where can i get that tool to cut factory welds off ?

[@AquariumAficionado]

Just a thin belt sander

[@AquariumAficionado]

Nd a wheel grinder

[@jonathanyates5198]

Harbor freight

[@Rwadan01]

Where are your safety gloves sir🤔

[@chancefitzgerald7740]

Beautiful job, you make it look easy. Thanks

[@tomsmk3]

Why so many layers of body filler???

[@hondaguyrr5132]

I REALLY LIKE HOW YOU FILM YOUR VIDEOS , NICE JOB !!!

[@chrisforker7487]

Love your videos, but the “music” is horrific!

[@skliros9235]

Agreed

[@niklasgroning5792]

Honda has always had rust problems!

[@geddonmeansome9834]

Must have been partially submerged in salt water , ive just sold a 23 year old BMW E36 with no rust and we get a lot of rain here in the UK .

[@AaronSmith-kr5yf]

Not a lot of road salt though, unless you're up somewhere in Scotland.

[@agl6183]

Acura has a 5 year unlimited mile rust warranty from the factory.

[@kylepetterson3453]

Suh dude. I’m a body man too. Cheers from Washington 😎🤙🏼

[@buckshot6481]

Made in USA Acura ? Strange 🤔

[@Kenneth-im2hw]

0:00 Me talking about my Astra LMAO

[@steven-vn9ui]

Wow, great skills. Subscibed.

[@SesjaZen]

Honda... Honda never changes :D Nissan owner i know what rust is :(

[@ericmann6714]

Why not just cut out the rusted area and fabricate new metal to butt weld into place? Saves you 1000$ in parts and is a lot quicker.

[@clint0699]

Rust on a 2016ér Car...?.....Throw it away!

[@robfassi3297]

Great work and video! My Honda is 10 years old and is stating to bubble up by the wheel well

[@AshlynUwU_Gamer]

They don't make cars like they used to anymore.

[@randyrasmussen8031]

U make this look soo dam simple

[@cobramike13bravo63]

Damn good work.

[@Mr.-Wint]

On a 2016 Acura, - is this a joke ? Maybe a bit overkill to remove the otherwise rustfree factory fresh rocker panel ?

[@rfreitas3298]

Men, the body has usually a 5 year warranty...

[@dzx1449]

I bet anything that car will get more rust , from the welding , no need of the big repair for small rust spot, insurance job, bodyshop squeezing every $$$$ out of the insurance company

[@agger838]

No insurance involved. Manufacturer pays

[@SandinMYpocketS]

You not bodyman

[@mechanicus8521]

Nice job