RV salesman reveals trade secrets

[@LizAmazing]

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[@armadilllo]

A friend of mine started selling RVs after he was laid off from his job, he lasted about a month, he couldn't believe how much they were ripping off the old people and the things he was told to do which were outright lies and tricks His conscience wouldn't let him.

[@LizAmazing]

Wow, thanks for sharing this.

[@rvguy7118]

What was the name of the dealership? Wont change till we call them out!

[@RantzBizGroup]

@@rvguy7118all dealerships are basically the same…

[@zarahofshiloh7537]

Praise be the Lord for such good men. We are suffering spiritual Babylon, where companies and sometimes individuals also are not held accountable to their own sins. They are encourage and protected (through arbitration clauses and a wicked judicial system) by the big bully wicked system (Corporate America) to get away with their wicked deeds that only amount to thievery. Obviously this friend had at least a few laws of God written on the tablet of his heart. I pray the Lord bless him for it.

[@petitchenil]

Everything he tells you is correct. I sold cars and other items - he knows his stuff.

[@LizAmazing]

Great! Thanks for backing him up, and for watching!

[@bobhobart3613]

He was excellent. Could feel his honesty!! Thanks Liz!!👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@chuckpotter1209]

I am a subscriber Liz. Love your channel. My wife and I have been searching for a specific fifthwheel. We found one at Rugby RV, Rugby, ND. We were told on the phone and in emails it was in "very good condition...prepped, winterized, and ready" for us to buy. We drove 1,800 miles (RT) to inspect it based upon what they told us. (No NRVIA inspectors in ND). We arrived only to find the plumbing frozen, water damage in the kitchen walls and ceiling, a hole in the roof, dead bugs and mice feces in the kitchen drawers and under the bed, severely bald tires, and torn slide-out seals. The salesman and sales manager didn't care at all we spent hundreds in hotels and fuel costs to drive that great distance to only to see a disaster they wanted to sell us and were dishonest of the condition. We asked to see their PDI checklist but the dealership declined. We will never trust an RV salesman again!!!!!

[@LizAmazing]

Oh my goodness, so sorry. Next time you see an RV you like and it's long distance (whether at a dealer or a private seller), ask them to FaceTime you and show you the whole coach inside and out, underneath and also send photos of the roof. I've done that a few times and it's saved me a trip!

[@anteem3055]

@@LizAmazingabsolutely-!!! Really??🤷‍♀️

[@jerryking5426]

That sums up the attitude of these scumbags tells you everything you should know

[@bobbypaluga4346]

I sold two Brooklyn Mattresses for you today. Some friends bought a class C which came with thin foam mattresses. They took a break-in trip and hated the beds, mentioned how great Brooklyn products were and they ordered them. Our guest is excellent he is a master of common sense.

[@LizAmazing]

Yay, I love my mattress and I'm sure they'll love theirs. Thanks for passing that info along. And, yes, today's guest was spot on, glad you enjoyed him! Thanks for watching.

[@Rocket_Man232]

🔔 LIZ @ 6:52: If that's the case, then a new element needs to be added to RV customer/dealer negotiations, namely a 'bedding buyback discount', whereby it becomes a standard thing that particular buyers don't accept the included mattresses but get rebates for them instead (hopefully equivalent to the price of a good replacement). This will highly incentivise the inclusion of better RV mattresses in the future!

[@LizAmazing]

Yes! After my mattress failed so soon, I complained to Grand Design. They sent me a $600 check to go towards a replacement. It was better than nothing! Thanks for watching.

[@judithwilliamshudson1744]

I got used travel trailer with a 7 year , no deductible extended and was glad I did... No trouble what so ever. When things started to come up it was covered before the 7years were up. Glad I got it. Still have my trailer and still no problems. That's a airstream for you.

[@LizAmazing]

This is so good to know. Thanks for sharing this, and for watching.

[@deborahgarrison4349]

Fascinating! Good advice. Thanks, Liz!

[@patpatpat999]

Like a fridge, if you want to cut your troubles by 80%, dont get an ice maker

[@ajfletcher8350]

Liz….thank you so much for tackling this extremely important issue. I am glad you are bringing this to light. Keep it up as you will make a huge difference in the RV industry .

[@Leonard-f1p]

Outstanding speaker.....great information...this guy knows his shit......I have told my wife the last 2 new cars we bought....don't show excitement....well on last car we knew what we wanted ,he kept pushing something else we took it for a drive....he was so pushy ...we walked out....letting people know our feelings......went 15 miles away looked at a van....kinda liked the price ....but said we were going to look at a dodge van......and he said....what will make the sale.....I said life of the van ownership zebart rust proofing......some other extras and a 10 yr warranty with only a $100 deductible and.....no sales tax or prep fees and or title.....and paid sticker.....picked up next day....during covid......I learned yrs ago...from sales men....now I walk in with attitude and tell them....I don't like car sales men because they have to lie to do there job.....that there they don't know what to think....I have only emailed a sales person on a rig and he got to pushy.....so I forwarded the last letter to the higher up and I haven't heard from him since......great job...thank you fro these great videos...I have sent some of yours videos to other content makers of floor plans and I'm betting they are following you now

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you for sharing this, your comment is sure to help others!

[@stickbogart3657]

🔥🔥🔥. Thank you for your comment. I will be back again when Liz is ready for me to be on her videos and trust me I got some more juicy content ready to go for all of you RV’ers. Remember think twice and act once. I challenge anybody to go to an RV show and sale. Walk around for a couple of hours and see how fast you can get out of there before somebody approaches you and tries to squash you into a deal. Do yourself a favor and do a pressure test to see how much pressure they can put on you and you can walk away. Never be afraid to walk away because when you walk away, the money is still in your pocket. 🔥🔥🔥

[@stickbogart3657]

🔥 yes I’m a good speaker and I do Stand-up comedy sometimes I really enjoy that as well. I like to entertain people and protect people. Yes, my name is stick. 🔥

[@lafarms]

Wisdom from my grandfather- never deal on something you are not willing to walk away from. Never impulse buy.

[@BennyC-qg6rd]

At last, an honest (albeit former) rv salesman.

[@theodorependers1369]

No no glad that you are there to inform and protect all these nice people 🎉

[@skateorbri]

I'm an amateur writer and after watching your videos I started to write down a rough draft of a movie about all this insane RV information I've learned. Not sure if it would be a comedy or a Drama although yet. so much material to pool from.

[@johncronin5311]

This is a great channel, even though I have no intrest in an R V , there is a wealth of knowledge here

[@JP-mu3xl]

The good news is, as a customer we don’t have to explain our actions or ourselves, we’re simply there to purchase a product, or sometimes not

[@l.ls.8890]

From what I have seen from this and other RV videos, I will never buy a RV of any kind. Thanks for giving us this advice pre ownership.

[@lawman5511]

Cardboard is what the whole RV is made of today. Great video!

[@dave9351]

Yes, in fact the slide-out body on my last RV, a 2009 Thor Serrano, was made entirely from pressboard and the roof had developed a leak over this slide-out prior to my buying it and when I needed to get some repairs done, the repair shop in Medford, Oregon started to remove the slide-out and immediately stopped and called me with the bad news. Why would any RV builder use pressboard on such a critical component as a slide-out ? Save a few bucks on every build and to hell with the customer a couple years down the road ! These companies are down-right evil and deserve to be sued or go out of business !

[@drn13355]

Not the Oliver trailers. They are built like sailboat cabins. Not fancy. but built for the road. The way sailboats can handle the ocean, When it comes to trailers...look for a sailboat cabin.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

I always tell my family that you have to be careful as the rv is made out of paper .

[@cyrusdubash3097]

Well, there is some Styrofoam as well.

[@patrickrapps7089]

I immediately recognized Stick Bogart's name...I worked in the same car dealership as him, in the mid 90s. Good on him for being a consumer advocate.

[@Dibubba]

Wow. Thanks, Liz, for sharing this really “feel good” episode! It worked WONDERS in curing me of the inclination to dip my toes into this RV silliness!! More time in the basement, with my guitars and puppies, is hugely preferable to *this* shark pond! 😳

[@schizy]

A very good video! Spot on, particularly about 'extended warranties'. Good advice!

[@B.I.-EIO_macdonald9786]

I got rid of my rv mattress immediately. 😂

[@brightman2011]

Having owned several RV trailers for the past 30 years I agree with this post. Knowing what I know now I would not buy a new RV. Manufactures and dealers are not to be trusted.

[@andrewuriarte7581]

He was right about the pre delivery inspection and how dealerships rather have their technicians put band-aids over visible problems. (It was a brand new trailer - 2024) We went to a dealership, and the salesmen and sales manager said they do a pdi on every trailer. Walked through a trailer with the fridge on, brocken shower currton, pieces of trim on the floor, and bolt completely missing/snapped off the tongue jack.

[@LizAmazing]

Such a crazy way to do business. You'd think they'd want the happy customer to drive off the lot the moment he buys it. Instead he either drives off with problems to be fixed later, or has to make another trip. So frustrating. Thanks for watching.

[@michellefitz4287]

Quite an insightful video! Please have him on as a regular guest contributor!

[@billkop3717]

Liz this is another master piece video, straight from the horses mouth, great insight, he's telling the truth, Liz hope you are having a great day stay safe out there Beautiful!

[@LizAmazing]

Aw, thanks Bill! Big hugs to you!!!

[@JacquelineMitchell-zf9le]

This was very informative!!! Thank you so much. I never plan to purchase any kind of rv but interesting to learn about. I cannot believe how many families live FT in an rv.

[@guspaca494]

Liz, excellent video yet again. Thank you for all of your helpful , accurate info that will probably help a lot of unsuspecting RV buyers. I wish I knew a lot of this when I first started my journey .

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for saying so, Gus!

[@ravenragnar]

Pro tip. RENT a CLASS A for two weeks and be DONE. Seriously RV's are not, "freedom".

[@LizAmazing]

It's not for everyone, but if it calls you I hope you give it a try. Thanks for watching

[@bounderchris]

Sorry I disagree with be done… maybe rent one once to see if you want to buy or if you are just going out once but if you place to travel renting them is a joke. They can say $199 for a night and by the time you’re done with all their bogus fees your at $500

[@f42un84u]

Some of us think of it as the total cost of renting vs owning for the period of use needed. Most infrequent use RVers may be better off renting. Most full time RVers maybe better off owning. As painful as it is potential RVers need to write a plan, factor personal circumstances and analyze costs vs benefits. Then make a smart beneficial decision.

[@Mike-te1xx]

Another Great Episode!

[@bryanwilson2585]

Awesome video and great advice! So many people don’t do their homework and end up with buyers remorse as a result. 10 out of 10 for all the points noted here!

[@ralphp3057]

Good video Liz . Many people need to hear this information! Stick is very knowledgeable! 👍

[@stickbogart3657]

Thank you very much for your your comment and support.

[@mrhypnomadic1104]

Thank you, Liz and Mr. Bogart, for sharing your experience and insights. A lot of people, like myself, look forward to your videos as you're providing such helpful and interesting content!

[@LizAmazing]

Yay! I am so glad you're here! Thank for saying this and feel free to share this video. Have a wonderful weekend.

[@tara6664]

I been a mechanic all my life and this guy is spot on . And anyone with half a brain should listen to what he says .

[@LizAmazing]

Great, thanks for taking the time to write this!!!

[@vanbrendle]

Great information. Keep in mind a dealer has 10 days to title a trade-in. If you have a payment draft from your bank account within 10 days on your old RV after the trade; you have been fleeced. A large deal in Ormond Beach FL does this routinely.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for sharing this! I don't know anything about that.

[@robertroth287]

Interesting perspective. Glad he saw the light and now works to help consumers. I do wonder if anyone sells RVs that don't require arbitration......hopefully someone can answer that.

[@LizAmazing]

I would love to know if any dealer will let you cross out the arbitration clause. Thanks for watching and stay tuned.

[@pammiedoodle8693]

Such great info and I hope it gets out to thousands of people BEFORE they make a purchase of any kind! Your videos are priceless, Liz!👍🏼😊 Blessings 🙏

[@stickbogart3657]

❤️Pam I am on a mission of helping consumers when they go to purchase an RV or even if they’re just thinking about buying an RV I want to give them the insight of what to think about before they sign any contract of their choice. We all earn our money I don’t want anybody to burn their money. Soon I will be talking about lawsuits in the RV industry. I will not mention any company names. I will not mention any lawyers names. I will not mention the location of any dealer. But I will mention is the situation that I’ve been involved in helping lawyers win these cases that they’ve hired me in the past to help them win Attorney hired me to go to another state and get in front of a judge and a jury as an expert witness I did not represent myself as legal counsel in any fashion. I made it known in front of the judge and the jury, and everyone else in the courtroom that I was an expert witness. In this particular situation, somebody lost their life. It was regarding a car crash. Something happened behind the consumers back, which brought the case to Life Stay tuned, you’ll get to listen to it Please share these videos that Liz produces with your friends. It doesn’t matter whether they plan to buy an RV or a car. I will always have good advice for everyone. I feel good about what I do and I feel really good when I’m done with a case because I’m gonna make the right decision about what I need to bring in front of a judge and the jury and the consumers. Stay tuned it’s coming in a couple of weeks or less. I will be in another video. It will be very informative. I guarantee it. I put the red heart on this. I believe you’ll probably love it. ❤

[@danrandall794]

What a delightful surprise this video is. I never sold a car commercially in my life but I played in that ballpark for decades. Stories? Oh yea. Thankfully the bad ones were outliers. People I would work for had values including integrity. Can't wait to see the video when he becomes an expert witness. Be VERY VERY VERY careful with any extended warranty. In my ballpark the manufactures had very good ones but the aftermarket ones were total trash. One of their tricks is to say defective part. Sure is tough when a part makes it 75,000 miles to say it was defective and of course those aftermarket extended warranties don't cover wear and tear. Same part goes bad on the manufacture extended warranty and it was covered. Same applies to home warranty. Be very careful. Rambled on and on again. Have a great week and hope you are having lots of fun.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you very much for these tips, Dan! Have a great week yourself!!!

[@Hubjeep]

3:00 An easy out is saying... You're the first one I've spoken with, how can I make an educated decision without comparison?? I did that at a time-share spiel... They had no reply.

[@dave9351]

Excellent advice for anyone considering buying an RV or a car ! Thank you for sharing these valuable tips on dealing with "The Sharks" !

[@angiespencer3854]

Another great video with valuable information! I really appreciate this gentleman's candor and honesty. BTW Liz, that blue is gorgeous on you!

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, thanks Angie. And so glad you like this video. Feel free to share!

[@billhungerford5930]

Wow, this guy was gold! Hit a lot of key points that never crossed my mind.

[@Stephanie-vn6ir]

Holy crap Hola Liz. You really hit the jackpot with this guy, I love it! ❤

[@LizAmazing]

Glad you like him! Stay tuned for more, and thanks for watching Stephanie.

[@cherylpage7415]

Such good information! Thank you!

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you for being here, Cheryl!

[@williamleonardo8478]

You are so right I bought an extended warranty with my Dodge from a automotive company in as soon as it had a EGR problem they did not warranty at 9:00 paid $2,000 for it but Auto shield is actually a good warranty they warrantied my wife's Jeep to the cylinder head on it without a link

[@duchess0816]

Great video, hopefully people will listen and do their homework. Keep up the good work.

[@ahava3838]

This video is worth watching even if you don't own an RV. Good information for all vehicle owners. He is correct when he says most people don't read contracts. I used to be a mortgage broker and people very seldom read their loan agreements.

[@LizAmazing]

Yep. Thanks for watching. My spiritual center in Lexington is named Ahava, the Hebrew word for love.

[@zrated]

Wilderness RV Mattress is who I went with, soft pillowtop. Literally, when I go home and sleep, I miss my RV mattress!

[@LizAmazing]

Good to know, thank you!

[@woodworkerfromcanada4829]

You are doing an AWESOME job!! Love your channel.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks so much, I'm glad you are here!

[@EmilyAllan]

Great info. Thanks for the good edit job too.

[@sherrygreen3227]

Thank you for the reminders in this area. Great insight.

[@jeffsteele1295]

Great video Liz this Stick I don't know where you found him., but he really knows his stuff. I can't say enough about the information on this video, but people watch it 2 or 3 times . Take notes would be a good deal if you are going to purchase any motorized vehicle of any kind. I would even advice it if you were going to purchase a electric bike lol but true. Thank you and Stick so much.

[@jeffsteele1295]

Yea I bet just one clicking from your stove igniter would get you a free ticket to those Pearly Gates quickly ? lol but not funny@@stickbogart3657

[@jerryking5426]

Great presentation what ge said was absolutely true and this applies to car salesman as well always remember they don't even care if you can make the first payment they just want their commission

[@hectorvazquez7929]

I rent class B RVs for my getaways and have enjoyed it allot. I just turn it back in and don’t worry about anything

[@CCaudits]

I love watching your videos Liz. Have learned alot.

[@Coleen_West]

Great episode Liz! Must say that you have a natural presence on screen. You were meant for this and it will only get better.

[@LizAmazing]

Awww, you are so kind, Coleen!

[@dereksellars]

Hey, Liz you have really hit on something here. Thank you so much for sharing. I have had different RVs over the years. I haven't had one for around 8-10 years now but looking to get one before I retire in December. This has been so informative, and I commend you!! Thank You!!!

[@stickbogart3657]

Derek send your questions to Liz if she sends them to me, I’ll be more than happy to respond. I will give you positive positive information. That’s very constructive. That will help you save money when you go to buy your next RV. Just stay in touch with Liz.

[@kelley95425]

Very informative! Thank You!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks, Kelley!!!

[@gregdelong1539]

Sticks is amazing, glad our paths never crossed as I would be broke.

[@marksr8784]

We loved the floor plan so much the sales man had it easy 😊....

[@LizAmazing]

I bet!!! Thanks for watching.

[@ChronicKoff]

7:28 Well I didn't hear this is not a payed ad/promotion, i say make that side money girl. Just keep up the great content, I enjoyed the info this video gave.

[@davereynolds259]

Spot on advice !!! Could not be any better recommendation to 'any" RV buyers.

[@funnyside6]

I agree with everything he says. The two standouts are 1) be willing to walk away and 2) people are more willing to part with their money than make sure it's the right fit. These are true in so many parts of our lives. BTW, how do you pull the F150 with your motorhome? Mine owners manual states it shouldn't be towed (four down or on a dolly).

[@LizAmazing]

I have a 2018 F-150, which is four down towable. It's a 4x4. I had to buy it specifically as not all years are compatible.

[@bernardszirth9665]

Wow Liz, once again you bring such value to to the reality of owning or upgrading our homes on wheels. Words of wisdom! PS, love your KZbin plaque, well deserved :)

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks Bernard!!! Hope you are having a good weekend!

[@kengroves49]

Thanks for the video lizz

[@BigAl52]

Ive been lucky. I bought from a small dealer and they have taken good care of me when I needed them to. They have fixed items on my list right away and I havent had to wait as long as some people do. Plus one on the Brooklyn Bed. I bought one over a year ago and our bed in our 5th wheel is better than the one at home. We love ours and intend on buying another one for the house

[@LizAmazing]

Yes! Next time I talk about them I should mention you can get one for your home too. They are so very nice! And glad that you found a good dealer who will take care of you. Thanks for watching.

[@edwardranno7119]

I worked for new flyer bus company in Minnesota,they looked over everything,before that bus went out that door everything was checked and triple checked,the sales people were under a lot of pressure to get them out of the building

[@theodorependers1369]

so ritch and so true for information thanks a lot

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks Theo, so glad you are here!

[@markthompson2079]

Another fabulous video. Thanks Liz!!

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you, Mark!! Have a great weekend!

[@DonaldMcKay3768]

Great video, Liz, and your consultant, or whatever, shows both experience and good sense. While I never bought an RV from a dealer, I bought a number of new cars and I now have a better idea of the reasoning behind the dealers' always trying to sell me an extended warranty, accessories, or paint sealant (today) and in earlier times, rustproofing and undercoating. Those things are practically useless to the buyer short term, and subject to unknowns that could change in the future, but a credit to the dealer's cash flow immediately. Odds are the buyer won't buy again from the same dealer so there's no motive to cultivate buyer loyalty, while the additional cash is all gravy. Too bad it's like that but that's reality.

[@LizAmazing]

It’s very shortsighted of them! I hope the industry wakes up and does better. Thanks for watching. And glad you enjoyed the video.

[@tomschneider7555]

Thank you Liz, this is so helpful

[@renatapawelec8154]

I agree…just walk away!

[@LizAmazing]

Hindsight is 20/20 for sure. Thanks for watching and see you in my new video right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIurh3dpq61qodk

[@kathyline11]

Great info Liz, as usual, like the gentleman said, do your homework and be prepared to walk if you don't like something!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks Kathy! Have a great weekend and see you in the next one.

[@charlottelavalette8236]

Another great video!!! You rock Liz🐼

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you, Charlotte!! Have a great weekend.

[@drn13355]

Also..understand these things value drops like stone the second they are purchased. So make sure a person can take that kind of financial hit.

[@stevemurray2737]

Important Info here Liz. Thanks for Posting.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you for watching, Steve! Have a great weekend and see you in the next one.

[@bparkinson1234]

Excellent video! Thanks

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you for watching! Have a nice weekend.

[@cjbrown4905]

Great video, Keith.

[@LizAmazing]

He did good!!! Thanks for watching.

[@barbarapalmer268]

This video was great. Thank you.

[@Salsadepr40]

Wow! Liz, I’m glad that I always do my homework before I buy. That gentleman that is exposing the truth about the dealers way of selling to a customer is always been that way. I have purchased brand new Vehicle in 3 ocasión including my Van witch I currently live in with my wife, and they wanted me to buy the extended warranty. 😳 is exactly what they want! Sell you a warranty that you don’t need if your vehicle already have a manufacturer warranty. I learn a lot from these sales person and they are not there to be your friend. A++ on this video. 👍🏼

[@toddkiernan]

Thank you! As always, very informative.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks, Todd, you're the best!

[@Ima-hoot]

I did a lot of research before I went to the Tampa show. I had spreadsheets ! I ALWAYS walk away if a salesman or saleswoman is too pushy ! I bought a new RV at the Tampa 2020 show (pre-pandemic ). I bought it on my terms and paid less than the show advertised price !!

[@carlbeaver7112]

#1 Rule a dealer will teach their sales force is, "If you don't have control over your customer, you have NOTHING!" If your salesman is ever swapped in the middle of getting you into a vehicle it's because the sales floor manager doesn't think your salesman has you under his thumb. I sold cars for a while. When I saw a senior salesman throw his customer's keys on the roof of the sales building (to keep them from leaving) I walked out. All the salesman wants to accomplish is to get you into the most expensive unit he can and get you to sign the "I will buy and drive, today, ###### unit for $$$$$$$$ money" and then send you into 'the box' where the finance manager will attempt to yank even more money away from you. Never, ever, EVER accept any reduction in your ability to employ a real lawyer! Arbitration is just another way of screwing yourself. (Apologies for the term but it is the most emphatic way to get my point across.) Arbitration will only go your way if you can find a way the arbitrator broke the law and good luck with that. I don't care if it is for a new or used car, RV, refrigerator or a job - just don't do it. Forced arbitration, or ANY arbitration, should be illegal as it only serves the person paying for their services. Consider it a sign that they are only going to do whatever they want to you because you just signed away your rights. Any company forcing an arbitration contract should be considered as shysters looking to bend you over. Period. Having been a pro mechanic for fifty years I can tell you there are some extended warranties that are better than others but many change their names or close up shop before their exposure level hurts their bottom line. If people knew what they were reading in the fine print they would have the skills to fix it themselves. "Hmm, says here they'll fix any lubricated part in the engine, that sounds great!" Uh, there are a ton of parts that are not lubricated and replacing them can incur a LOT of labor. Many of them don't repair/replace gaskets and/or seals. So that big puddle under the engine is going to cost you. I've seen some deny any part of a claim until you get past the non-covered part(s). "Oh, you need a new engine? Ok, we cover the lubricated parts but everything else you need isn't covered." Or any of the wiring which is so often the cause of electronic issues. And many shops won't repair a harness, they'll only replace it (I've seen some harnesses go for a few thousand dollars, plus labor.) Let me just say I've seen more claims denied vs. paid. Or enough of a claim denied that many people give up and sell the unit off at a lower price, hoping to pass their misery on to someone else. PLUS, the amount you pay a dealer for an extended warranty is usually 3-6 times more than it costs the dealer! and then they want to finance you so they can roll that in as well. PDI - 'Pre Delivery Inspection'... LOL. LOL. I don't know if any RV manufacturer actually pays a tech to inspect an RV once it has been delivered. Maybe they do. Auto manufacturers typically pay a couple hours for a tech or prep guy to yank the plastic off of the seats, remove any lock-out devices, check this and that (which almost 3/4 of the list always gets blown off by the tech) and, if you're lucky, gets a quickie wash. I sincerely doubt RVs get that much attention. Ditto on the domestic drivelines. Imagine breaking down in BFE, North Dakota, in your Mercedes Class B/C and finding a dealer. Or waiting for parts to come from offshore. Also, look for a VIN tag near the driver's seat, door jamb, etc. It will have a production date on it. Typically the older it is, the longer it has been sitting on someone's floor plan and the more willing they will be to deal. DO YOUR HOMEWORK! A few hours can save you thousands. How often do you make several thousands of dollars per hour?

[@RantzBizGroup]

This response should be pinned to the top of this post. This is EXACTLY correct!!’

[@rastersplatter]

Liz, I recently subscribed and happy that I did. When I visit your KZbin channel, I noticed that (almost) all are negative. And that serves a community to avoid problems, I get it. This is good. And given human nature, this will generate the most "clicks" or views. Again, I get it. What I really want today are videos from trusted sources, like you, that let me know who are the top tier vendors that I don't need to worry so much about. If I am a buyer for new drivable RV systems, who are the best?

[@LizAmazing]

Hi there! Welcome to the channel and thanks so much for this valuable feedback. I have done some positive videos (good dealers, good mfrs) but have been inundated by folks needing my help, as in today's case. That said, I still plan to make positive content showcasing good products. Stay tuned. And in case you missed them: Here’s one about a GREAT dealer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXuygHlngMqkn5I. And here’s one about an AWESOME mfr: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6apfYuXq7Gomac. Thanks for watching!

[@jamiesuejeffery]

It has been a while ago now...my ex-wife and I flew to Las Vegas (it is funny, since I now live in Reno). We aren't gamblers. We love great food. I had some airline miles about to expire and we were in the off season for Las Vegas (yes, even sin city has an off season). So we flew down, was greeted by a pretty woman who wanted us to go see a timeshare presentation. Free lunch, free trip, and free tickets to a major show. We didn't have the cash to purchase a timeshare so we already knew that deal was off the table, and three hours plus lunch, ok. We'll play the game. Dang! The sales pitch was so intense! We spent three hours with a hungry salesman, free (but cheap and stale) food, but we only had to pay with our time to see an amazing magic show at the end of the night. Watch out for the sharks. (And for the record, I have owned three RV's in my life.)

[@martinhudson8515]

Great video Liz. Looking forward to seeing part 2

[@LizAmazing]

Yes! Thank you, Martin!

[@stickbogart3657]

🔥🔥 Martin you will get to see the next video. Trust me. I’m looking forward to doing it with her. Yes my name is stick Bogart and I love helping the attorneys that have lawsuits against RV dealerships lawsuits that are justified. Never be afraid of having your propane system tested for leaks one liquid gallon of propane in the tank will expand to 270 gallons of explosive vapor if there’s a leak in the system. Think about a 30 gallon tank that’s full of propane that’s 8100 gallons of explosive vapor. If there’s a leak in the system, God forbid the propane is leaking inside of your. 8100 gallons of explosive vapor will put your RV on another planet. 🔥🔥🔥

[@dsbruening]

I love Stick! Great to have on the channel!

[@LizAmazing]

So glad to hear this, Debbie! Stay tuned for more Stick!

[@esterdrass4964]

Good to know. I think people need to remember the long-term cost of an RV. Even if it's in mint condition, you still have to maintain it, register it, insure it and its every year. But yeah, the salesmen are sharks. I didn't know what they did at RV shows but I know the last time I went; I was gob smacked at the prices. I saw those A liner trailers selling from mid 20s to over 30g. This was in 2021, and everyone was buying what was on the floor because it was during the pandemic. I don't plan on buying one anytime soon, but if its good to know if and when I do and what to look out for.

[@carrief7342]

Thanks Liz, there is some really good advice in this video. 🥰

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks Carrie!!!

[@abtechgroup]

Ikea has great mattresses that fit RVs - and the pricing is great. Couldn't believe how bad the new mattress in my trailer was.

[@sandycrouse9846]

This was an amazing video, thanks Liz

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you, Sandy, glad you are here! See you in my newest video right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJOmmoyJqpd7aa8

[@TrishBenedict]

And it helps when you go shopping to have something in mind. When we went up to look at the Travato for the first time at La Mesa Sacramento, I was almost giddy. But I went up knowing what I wanted and what we were willing to pay. And I'd also done some research and knew what they could be gotten for. We paid the discounted price on the sign inside the RV, which was considerably less than sticker. I'd been following prices and it was a reasonable price. For us, there's a certain emotional cost to dickering; we don't find it pleasant.. But then lockdown happened 2 weeks later, the demand for RVs shot up overnight, and we were suddenly feeling very smug, Honestly, I find a certain amount of honesty to be useful. When they ask if you're going to finance it or not, I know why they want to know that, but I will say "I don't know". And then I say "I'm not trying to be coy, I just don't know . I can afford to pay for it right now with a check, but if you have a better deal for me through financing and it's a loan that I can pay off early, then let's talk about that." I think that puts you in a better position.

[@LizAmazing]

That's a great tip about the financing, Trish. And it's great to hear from you. I hope you are planning some great trips in the Travato for later this year!

[@TrishBenedict]

@@LizAmazing The Travato is out, the Solis Pocket is in. And it may be too small Jerry has been very game, but he's 6'2" and I think he just might be too tall for it. I can tell he's miserable. So we may be bouncing up to a Solis P. For reference to someone who doesn't follow the brand, the Travato was 21 feet, the wee Pocket is 17.5, and the Solis P is 19 - sort of the Goldilocks juuust right! It's a new trim line, the National Park and it has a lot of nice features. We'll see… It does seem crazy doesn't it to have three different RVs in one year?!

[@AlanSanderson-u4t]

Several years ago La Mesa was making very competitive deals on a toy hauler I was considering.

[@kimkrebs451]

Thanks for sharing Liz!!

[@LizAmazing]

Hey Kim! Thanks so much!!!

[@drecksaukerl]

Good commentary on extended warranties. At my wife's insistence, we bought one when we bought a used Jayco trailer. With all the exclusions, it wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

[@LizAmazing]

I've rarely heard good things about them. Thanks for your comment, and for watching.

[@brianpollard3500]

Good topic Liz. Thank you for this one. I know it will help alot of people.

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks for being here, Brian!

[@brianpollard3500]

👌​@@LizAmazing

[@NeedtoSpeak]

Wonderful information.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you, so glad you are here!

[@LarryLMelton]

Ahh … the tricks of the trade. Larry from Texas

[@LizAmazing]

Indeed! Thanks for watching, Larry.

[@xmavrick]

Things I would suggest to buyers would be know your budget, get your financing from a bank you do business with and not the RV dealer, never tell the sales person how you will be paying for the purchase so you will get the best price possible, when the dealership thinks they will get a loan commission, do your homework on extended warranty’s and never purchase them at the time of sale, never think the clown on the other side of the desk is on your side, they will do and say anything to get your money! The retired sales person in this video, said it all very nicely! Never buy with your emotions, but with your business Head!!!

[@thomburleson7661]

Apart from the cheap mattress, why would anyone spend $400K-$500K on an RV? I don’t get it.

[@handmadebyzionette4825]

Thank You Liz!

[@LizAmazing]

Thanks, glad you are here!

[@daviddesmond2143]

Liz is posting an advertisement for Brooklyn Bedding. They are probably paying her a commission.. Tip-if you bought an extended warranty through the dealership, contact the warranty company to make sure the dealer paid them for it. Some dealers pocket the money and you don't have a warranty. If you are local they will act like you do if you have a service problem but if you are on the road out of the area you may find you have no warranty. The biggest profit is selling RV's is arranging financing. If you cant pay for a RV in 5 years, you can't afford it.

[@jerrytalley802]

So what, she likes a product and her referrals probably get a nice discount? Why is everyone so against the free market system? Nobody forces anyone to buy anything

[@daviddesmond2143]

@@jerrytalley802 People who post on You Tube and have lots of subscribers make money and sometimes endorse products and services where they make more money. I sold RV's for 23 years and can tell you lots of RV's have problems and there are good and bad ways to work with dealers. I can never forget an owner of a medium sized dealership never to sell an RV to people who are argumentative and difficult as we found 10% of our customers gave us 75% of problems in the sales and especially the service department. Do not expect to get warranty service similar to car dealers. Car dealers make money on warranty service-that is why they will fix them at any dealers. The RV world pays the dealer very little and then they have to go after other manufacturers for other components like refrigerators, slide outs and stuff made by other manufacturers. Liz is promoting getting RV "experts" to go along with you which is OK as long as they are not a pain in the butt and cause problems like most of them do. I was employed by 4 different RV dealers who operated very differently from one that let me handle people from the start of showing them RV's, appraising their trades to writing them up and handling financing.. Others focused on hard sell and made people sit down and you had to find out if they were looking or buying, if they had a trade and how much did they owe on it, if they were a cash buyer or financing buyer and how much could they put down and how much a month could they pay. If you go to a RV dealer to just look, you should slip the poor salesperson who is under high stress to sell a $50 bill so he can buy his family some mac and cheese to feed his family after you went through 24 units you never intended to buy.

[@anthonyb2334]

Good points. I’ve never purchased a car or motorhome without walking away at least once. On my present coach I walked away three times over three weeks. I understand people feel pressured or are impulse buyers. That’s unfortunate. Know what you’re getting into, do your homework. There is ALWAYS another deal out there. If you walk away you will find another RV if that one’s gone. And if you’ve never owned one before, rent one or two before buying. As others have said , try before you buy. The lifestyle and headaches are not for everyone. And there are headaches. I agree with some of what he said on extended warranty. Don’t buy from the dealer and DONT buy if it’s a new RV. It’s covered for at least 12 months. Buy after the factory warranty ends. But there are decent extended service agreements that work. They don’t cover everything, but if you plan on keeping it for 5 or more years like I do, it covers at least 50 percent or more of major repairs. At least that has been my experience with good programs. Again, do your homework, don’t trust the dealer. Thank you for your video. Good luck to all.

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you very much for your comment, Anthony, and for sharing your experience. Have a great weekend!

[@tuvia4082]

Thanks Liz, always good content. 1st, I would never buy a new RV. 2nd, I would always have an inspection on a used RV. 3rd, I would always anticipate 10-15% of the purchase price to be what my cost per year would be, over and above any payment. These RV sales people are like funeral homes when it comes to playing on consumer emotion, just not excitement but sadness. After a career in marketing I am a cynical of these methods that a lot of sales people use. The guy is right, I'm happy he didn't continue on as an RV salesman. Stay safe out there.

[@billyjohnson9166]

He’s 100% correct

[@LizAmazing]

Thank you for saying so! And for watching. Have a great weekend.