1912 Fairbanks - Morse 15 HP Hit And Miss Engine And Two Stamp Mill Demonstration

[@wa9kzy326]

To think this was the high-tech of the day !!Crude maybe, but effective YES,The desire to do whatever is necessary with the materials at hand from the human race is astounding.Thank you everyone that had a hand in bringing this beautiful technology to us public.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

It is amazing to see what people have invented over time out of necessity. Each generation improves a little on the technology of the previous one. Think of the work an engine like this could do with a gallon of gas. As Ron pointed out you could belt this up to many things from a generator to a washing machine and everything in between. Thanks for the comment!

[@wa9kzy326]

Nice viewpoint You've just earned another subscriber.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks, we appreciate it!

[@dougscott8161]

It's probably more fuel efficient than most of the more modern engines, and also not too bad on emissions.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

It is fairly efficient, maybe something to do with it coasting part of the time. Thanks for commenting, Doug!

[@colvinator1611]

Pure genius of a bygone age! Storing the energy in those flywheels. When I first went to electronics college ( Army ) in the early 70's, the flywheel analogy was used when we were learning oscillator theory. Great credit to you all for keeping history alive. Best regards, Colin UK.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for the nice comment, Colin. Yes, once those flywheels get going they're not going to stop easily. Lots of kinetic energy.

[@glenmclaughlin5291]

Excellent Video ! Brings back little boy memories if a 60 HP Fairbanks-Morse Diesel on Parks Pond in Clifton,Maine.Sawing 1/2 million ft of logs every summer from about 1920 to 1958.She Banged her way into my heart @ about 300 RPM.Notice the interesting camera frame speed showing the flywheel spokes turning one way and the slower motion of the shaft turning the actual direction.That man knows his engines.The 60 hp Diesel blew the most beautiful huge smoke rings when she was first firing from that 6 inch exhaust ...those rings kept expanding to about 12-15 ft until they finally broke apart.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks so much for watching and for the great comment, Glen. It sounds like you have some great memories that have stuck with you all these years. Ron certainly knows his engines. I have another video of his engine shop that you might like.

[@pmae9010]

I really doubt that a modern 15 hp engine would do the same work, so cool, thanks guys.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Once those flywheels get moving, there is a lot of kinetic energy there. They won't stop in any hurry. Thanks for watching, Mick!👌😁

[@Haawser]

Oh they'll do it, after a fashion. Whether they'll be capable of still doing it 100 years from now (with the original parts) is another question entirely.

[@tomjeffersonwasright2288]

I had a friend in the Ozarks, who had one of those in his back yard…and a case steam tractor, and old sterling engines, and make and break engines, and several other kinds of engines, not to mention a couple of dozen of ancient tractors. He loved machines, and bought them as scrap during the Second World War metal drives. He kept the brass whistles and governors in his log cabin, but they broke down the floor. Old Sammy is gone now, but he had plans to will his beloved machines to the University of Missouri. It was 40 years ago, but I still remember how he fired that engine up, almost exactly like in this video. Your video brought back great memories of visiting with Sammy. He had no refrigerator, so I'd always bring ice cream and cold RC cola, and hot dogs, and we would eat desert first before it melted, then finish up with the hot dogs cooked on a wood burning stove, drinking RC cola and talking about machinery until 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. If there is any machinery in the next world, I suspect old Sammy is one of the engineers.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

What a great story you tell of your pal Sammy. He sounds like a great guy who loved his machines. I'm glad you still have your memories of him. Thanks for watching and commenting. P.S. you know you shouldn't eat desert first, but in this case it's a good thing. RIP Sammy.

[@dajoway]

Thankyou for running your hit and miss engine!

[@davidmussack4529]

This is amazing. I would stay there and talk and listen, for hours as well.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Glad that you enjoyed this, David. We went from this engine right over to Ron's engine shop and listened to him for another hour or so. Here is the link to that video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqq2qaymoK2Cgbs

[@lineshaftrestorations7903]

Nice to see a hit n miss engine running at its proper speed.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Ron has it running properly, thanks for watching.

[@skysurferuk]

To those who say the US of A has no real history, get a load of this wonderful machine! Great work keeping her alive. Best from the (not so) UK.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for the great comment, Skysurfer. Loads of history here in the US.

[@danielginther4879]

Thanks to all the volunteers, docents, curators and donors who keep mining, manufacturing, agriculture, forestry, fishing and military museums up and running for the rest of us to enjoy and reminisce.

[@heyimamaker]

Very cool, I love to see these old engines. Hearing him talk about it you can see how people were solving problems by thinking and trying new things.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Exactly, very fun to listen to someone like Ron who knows a good bit of history behind these engines. Thanks for watching!

[@jmarsh3347]

It's amazing how they had things all figured out so long ago. Genius at work.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

These are amazing pieces of equipment. Fun to watch and hear running. I have a small hit and miss engine at home that I'm trying to get running. I can't get the magneto to fire, otherwise it's good.

[@CB-RADIO-UK]

Thanks Ron i really enjoyed learning.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for the comment, Fred. Hopefully Ron will see it.

[@busoldmanphil7293]

Most calmly paced, informative of all these engine videos. The Q & A kept everything slow enough to understand. Excellent camera work. No shaky jumping from one thing to the next.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks, Phil. We appreciate you watching and commenting.

[@williampollock1274]

This is pretty cool. It's amazing how smart a few people are in this world that give us all of our technology. We are all standing on the shoulders of giants!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

I agree, William. Some of the things that people have invented is pretty amazing. World changing ideas! Thanks for commenting. 👍👍

[@georgespangler1517]

That's cool,,she shows how far we have come in 100 years of building engines...

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

It definitely does and engine technology has obviously come a long way since this was built. It has even come a long way since the 60's/70's when I used to be on the side of the road regularly adjusting points, fiddling with carburetors, checking spark plugs and wires etc. just to keep my car running. Thanks for the comment, George!

[@georgespangler1517]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring sure has,, l have 8 classic cars projects, all pre 80,,,so I know Excaclly what your saying,,,,he'll tires don't even go flat anymore,,,lol

[@neildelaney5199]

A lovely old engine and what a knowledgeable chap Mr Morefield is,many thanks from dear old England

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for the nice comment, Neil. Ron certainly is a fun guy to spend some time with and he knows these engines inside and out.

[@ericl2969]

This was great. I've been fascinated with such engines for a long time and have seen them running at various machine shows, but have never had the chance to listen to a history lesson about them. Thanks a bunch.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That was exactly my feeling, Eric. It was really fun to listen to Ron, who obviously loves and knows about these engines, share his knowledge of history relating to this technology. You might enjoy my video of his engine shop where he talks about several smaller engines. The link is in the description of this video. Thanks for the great comment!

[@jessiehughes9432]

Very nice,I hope you can pass the love and knowledge to a young person to keep this treasure alive.👍🏼👍🏼

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That would be nice. Thanks, Jessie!

[@wallaceviviansadventures2095]

awesome, my father had a engine like that one he used it in his saw mill back in the early 60's. my brother has the wheels it on his lawn. i always wanted to see it working. thanks for the video.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Glad that you enjoyed the video and thanks for commenting, Wallace! They are pretty cool to see and hear running.

[@tonydeleo3642]

Ron, thank you for your service to our country!!

[@PidasianHippie]

It is so cool to see these old engines maintained and in use.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Pidasian Hippie We really enjoyed seeing the engine and mill, too. We spent at least two hours talking with Ron and checking out his engines. He has a shop next door to where this video was made that has a boat load of cool old engines and other equipment. Thanks for the comment!

[@fireball1322]

Years ago a friend of mine had the small hit & miss engine they used to use to irrigate fields. I could listen and watch it run all day......

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Have you seen the other video of Ron's engine shop? You might like it. The link is in the description of this video.

[@fireball1322]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring I'm getting ready to watch the other ones now ! Isn't it amazing that as far back in time as these engines were made, over 100 yrs later they stll run.

[@ihus9950]

Hit & Miss engines are awesome and can be used for a multitude of things! Great video 👍

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

They are cool engines. I have more on them in a video called 'Hit and miss engine shop with Ron Morefield'. Thanks for watching.

[@djlau1]

i think hit and miss also efcient in petroland use of the combustion incompare to 2 stroke and 4stroke?

[@twistedyogert]

@@djlau1 They were efficient for their time, nowhere near as efficient as a modern 4-stroke engine.

[@stephenmiller5023]

Every year for over 30 years now I try to make a family run up to the Vista California Steam Engine Museum and take my dad ( who is 94 years old now, he was my age when we first began going up & I’m now 63) to see in person all kinds of amazing machinery & old steam & gasoline & diesel powered equipment that is already on premises as part of working museum equipment or whatever people from all over the country decide to show up with & display . Lots & lots of these old hit & miss engines from all kinds of manufacturers show up every year & this usually takes place twice yearly, around the middle to end of June & the middle to end of October. Check it out sometime people , you will not be disappointed. History lessons in the flesh . Thanks for posting this one all those years ago now Tom, and I really enjoy your exploration videos with Julie . I’m a long time subscriber and really enjoy what you do & share with us all . C-ya 👍😆

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for the awesome comment, Stephen! The museum and equipment get together sounds great. Thanks for the information on that. We appreciate you following us for some time!👍😊

[@stephenmiller5023]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring You & Julie are very welcome Tom !! Also I just love the fact you guys take your old YJ Jeep to some pretty damn impressive high points in some of your videos, and it looks mostly STOCK 😳. Impressive driving there my friends. Stay safe out there & look forward to seeing you in future vids😎👍

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@stephenmiller5023 The YJ without track bars performs pretty well. Everything else is stock.

[@stephenmiller5023]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring I have a ‘91 Suzuki Samurai that I have extensively modified for off road exploration myself , and am running YJ springs over the topside of ‘83 Toyota Mini-truck axles with 33” Mickey Thompson tires . It’s powered by a Turbo charged & inter-cooled 1600cc Geo Tracker engine and has taken me to places few have dared go as well . I’ve mounted an 8500 lb pull winch up front that so far I have only used to pull others out of trouble with , and have my rig outfitted for all sorts of trail side repairs or recovery . Being prepared can also mean being safe ( in our minds anyway) so I always carry extra water & food & bedding & lights as well as a hand crank self contained weather radio for updates on conditions wherever I may roam. At 63 years old now my little rig has taken me all over here in California and parts of Arizona & I very much enjoy exploring new places like you two. Thanks for sharing again all that you post , and as I have commented on a previous video or two , maybe we will run into each other on a location somewhere, sometime. Stay safe you two👍👍

[@RENunez-sd6ov]

Every time I see this video, I learn something new. I dig the sound that it makes.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

It is a cool and rhythmic sound that this engine makes, Ren. Thanks for watching again.

[@williamwintemberg]

When I was 19 I went to work in a factory that was built in 1888. Although there was modern equipment there was also machinery from when the factory was built. The line shafts were never powered by hit and miss engines but we're powered by stationary steam engines. When electricity came in the steam engines were removed and replaced with an electric motor. When the place closed in 1982 there were still machine tools in the machine shop that were run by leather belts and line shafts. This included drill presses, lathes, one planer and one horizontal lathe all from 1888. Back in the day when the factory was built the first buildings constructed were the craft shops then the factory. The reason for that was most of the machinery for the factory was built in house because it couldn't be purchased. Engineers designed the equipment then carpenters made the patterns which were sent to a foundry. The castings would be machined in the machine shop and the machinery was built in place by millwrights. I learned to be a millwright while there and worked on all the old stuff right up to the modern equipment. Today it breaks my heart because I know all the equipment in the machine shop went to the scrapyard along with other machinery from 1888. Seeing the line shafts in this video brought some fond memories. Thanks!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Great story, William. Very interesting how the machinery was designed and then built in place. The Laws Museum is a very fun place to visit if you like old equipment and such. Plus, it's free admission. I have a few more videos that were taken at the museum that you might like. One of Ron Moorehouse's engine shop and one of the Twenty Mule Team Borax replica wagon train. There are a couple more, too. Thanks again for the great story, I will read it a couple more times.

[@williamwintemberg]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring Back then cameras were strictly forbidden and it was an instant firing offense. Now I wish I had taken the chance to get pictures. Over the years as new processes were installed the old machinery wouldn't be removed unless the room was needed so the old machinery would just sit there. The machinery was built to last for ever. There were a couple of Ingersoll Rand air compressors that were there from day one that were still running every day until the place shit down although the steam engines that powered them were long gone. There were wooden tanks and some cast iron tanks still in use from day one until the end. The factory covered a little more than 2 city blocks with brick buildings 12 stories tall. Back in it's day it drew much attention. A huge "Steam Powered Factory" it was called. The operators used pipe to communicate with each other. Just like old Navy ships. Some of the pipes were still there at the end. One would blow into it like a trumpet to get the attention of the next operator. Small steam whistles were also used for communication. They were used until the end. Steam power came before electricity. It wasn't long before this factory was built steam railroad engines had to uncouple their cars so horses could pull the cars to their destinations because steam was thought to be too dangerous to be close to highly populated areas. In some cases it was true because every once in a while a locomotive would blow up. Again, this video woke up a lot of wonderful memories. Thanks Again!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Too bad you didn't get any photos of the factory and the vintage machinery. I'm glad that you have the memories after least. That factory must have given you some intense experiences to have developed such deep memories of that time. You are a good writer, maybe a book in your futue? Thanks for another great comment, William!

[@williamwintemberg]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring Thanks for your more than kind words. There won't be a book. Just like the machinery that went to the scrapyard not many are interested in some old man's memories. I was just a kid when I started there. I was a sponge trying to learn everything I could and I wound up in a candy store so to speak. The old timers I worked with were more than happy to pass along a lifetime of information which included information that was passed along from previous generations of millwrights. They were a wonderful bunch that were children during the Great Depression. Most knew of a cold house in the winter and going to bed without a meal. They learned to share at a young age and did for their life. Their knowledge flowed to me like a river. You guys are busy and I really enjoy what you do. One day when not so busy you will most likely remember much of things in your past that you most likely thought you forgot.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@williamwintemberg You always seem to remember the important things. I really do like your writing skills and wouldn't uderestimate what you could do with those great memories that you seem to have. Stories and ways of life that were passed down to you are priceless.

[@LANDSEAAIRCANADA]

Now that is interesting, better still someone who understands this engine, once upon a time many Tugboats used Fairbanks - Morse for power Some Captains and crew called them Fairbanks Re-Morse... Great video Thanks for posting Tom.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

LAND SEA AIR CANADA Thank you for the nice comment. It really was fun to spend the time with Ron who really knows these engines well. He has a smaller shop next door to this one with five more hit and miss engines of various sizes. He started a smaller one that ran a drill press and saw. I'll post that video soon.

[@wntu4]

F-M engines were also used on WW2 and after US submarines.

[@AllenOxendine]

Wow, things have surely changed since this machine was first run... Thanks for sharing guys...

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Allen Oxendine Yes they certainly have, Allen. This is a really good museum and I made a longer video of most of it. Thanks for watching!

[@johnwillis4706]

I have a saw mill that was my grand dad's. It is powered by a 15 hp Fairbanks Morse hit & miss. It was new in 1916 and been driving the mill ever since. This saw mill and this engine runs five days a week. We rebuilt it a year ago and that was the first time as far as I can tell.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Wow, that's amazing. I bet that is fun to see and hear running. That says something about the quality and simplicity of these engines. I get asked occasionally about fuel consumption of the engine. Can you give me an idea of how much fuel it uses? Thanks for the comment, John!

[@johnwillis4706]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring it burns on average 1.5-2.0 gals per hour under a load. That's down from 2.5-3.0 before the rebuild. A benefit of the rebuild. It now starts easier and runs smoother. It starts right up on karosine now which it wouldn't do before. It had to be warmed up on gasoline before switching the fuel supply. The old engine is a hoot. I've been using it now for ten years since we moved and re-sent the mill. It never ceases to amaze me. Grand dad would be happy his saw mill was still cutting wood.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@johnwillis4706 Thanks for that information on fuel consumption and type of fuel. I was wondering what fuel you ran it on. I agree that your grand dad would be happy and proud of what you're doing with the mill.

[@johnwillis4706]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring it's a lumber mill by the way. It will cut logs up to 6 feet in diameter. We don't see logs that big today, about 60 inches are the biggest we see now and those are rare, but it would cut them. We cut full dimension lumber. 2x4's are 2x4 inches 2x6's,2x8's, 2x10's, etc. It's the old ways but, people really like the full dimension lumber.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@johnwillis4706 Good to know what your mill can do. Feel free to put the mill name and location in a comment if you'd like.

[@stanmills4512]

Great explanation Ron of how it all works. A great engine also.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

He is pretty good around these engines.

[@losingmyfavoritegame8752]

11:00 I am told this is how I snore! LOL I really enjoyed watching the startup and cool down of this engineering gem! I love the sound and operating principal of hit & miss engines. Thanks for the upload!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

They do make some interesting sounds and are kind of relaxing in a rhythmic way. I've been accused of snoring like a chainsaw, moose and a couple other things but never like a hit and miss engine, so that's a rare talent you have. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching.

[@twistedyogert]

My cat sounded like that when she snored. She was a big girl, perhaps a little bit overweight (16 or 17lbs). She died in 2018, but she lived a pretty long time for a cat. She was about 10 or 11 years and we had her since she was a kitten.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That a big car. We have a 19 year old car traveling with us right now. She has always been very small about 6-7 pounds.

[@jinksonyou]

Now this is AWESOME! Thanks for sharing, cheers from Canada eh

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Glad you enjoyed it, Darren! Thanks for the comment.

[@Farmtractor]

Those hit and miss engines really are amazing. Maybe not a lot of power, but torque, YES!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Exactly. Thanks for the comment!

[@matthewpiper3288]

Love bishop beautiful place, awesome museum i have visited.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

We love the Laws Museum. Not many better museums around and it's free. Thanks for watching, Matthew!

[@3melendr592]

I saw some engines that look similar in the oil fields of New Mexico some decades ago! These machines never cease to amaze me! I look at all the antique machine displays at our county fairs in the area. They run them.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

They are fun to watch in action. It's also fun to imagine the mill pounding ore from a mine and all the work the miners did to dig and transport the ore. Visiting abandoned mines is one of our hobbies. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@chrism4008]

They definitely use old engines like this to power oil pump-jacks, sometimes smaller sometimes bigger. They've been largely replaced with electric motors now though

[@davidviktora]

A perfect engine for post-apocalypse world. Very easy to build and maintenance, low fuel consumption and powerful enough to run a little factory. As fuel can be used practically anything that flows and burns. I love this machinery.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Exactly. I asked Ron about fuel and he did say they will run on just about any type of combustible liquid. Thanks for the comment.

[@stevegould1730]

The first cylinder deactivation. Way ahead of its time!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Yes, very true. I'm starting to see the same on new engines for increasing fuel efficiency when under minimal load. Thanks for your comment, Steve!

[@adventurehawksancientharmony]

I have a 1923 Witte throttle governed log saw. Similar to a hit and miss. I learned a few things from this video. Thanks!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That sounds like a cool engine. Glad that you learned something from the video. I have a 1919 Sattley 1&1/2 HP hit and miss. I need to get the magneto working, and it will run. Here is another video you might enjoy😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqq2qaymoK2Cgbs

[@adventurehawksancientharmony]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring are you familiar with the Starbolt catalog?

[@jamesmoore3346]

There was a fellow in our town that had several old engines sitting around his place. I never got the chance to look at them up close, that was quite a few years back. He is no longer with us, would be interesting to know about the engines today. I remember seeing a couple of them from a distance, they were vertical, single cylinder engines. Back the I was mire interested in cars (lol) and never thought much about them except the fact they had to be extremely old, much like the units I see in these videos...... I'm now 62 and after a lifetime of being a mechanic of some form or another I wish I would of checked them out back then. Hind sight is 20/20, LOL......

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

If I remember correctly Ron had a vertical engine in his shop. Did you see my video of his engine shop? He has all sorts of engines there. The link to it is in the description of this video. Maybe you can get your hands on one of the engines the fellow in your town had or another somewhere else. I think it would make a great project for a person with mechanical ability. Thanks for the comment, James!

[@jamesmoore3346]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring It was many years back. I am going to check though, his son has the place now. His son and I are freinds, went to school together. The vertical ones I saw looked to be 3-4 foot tall. His fatherusedto buy scrap metal and aluminum cans, I don't think his son kept that business going but those engines may very well be in the barn, going to check it out. I was a mechanic of some form or another all my life. Started with lawnmowers and small engines, went to farm tractors and industrial equipment, (backhoes, excavators, bobcats, etc. Then spent 16years building and servicing High pressure, closed loop hydraulic systems and the machinery they powered for the offshore oil and gas industry. Really loved that job. Then 9/2/14 the doctor said lung cancer, said 'I give you about 90 days', I quit my job, entered chemo and radiation treatment at the same time. Massive doses but BEAT the cancer but didn't beat the side effects of the chemo and radiation. But I am alive and somewhat able to enjoy life with my wife and family. If I had to guess I'd say I'm about 65/70% of what I used to be. Got a little woodcraft shop in the backyard helps keep me doing something. I love to watch the videos of these old engines. Would like to get a chance to experiance breathing life back into one. Definatly an era long gone but the machinery is out there, and I have a good friend that's the best machinest you'll ever meet so nothing is impossible. Thank you for replying back, you got my mind thinking now. If I find them still there I'll drop you a message. Thanks again......

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@jamesmoore3346 Glad you are doing better now. Hope you find one of those engines, or another one somewhere else. Thanks for sharing your story.

[@markomalley2386]

this is good stuff.to the guy that made this video good job man you asked the right questions and the video was great

[@markattardo]

That's awesome to see running and learn about it.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Yes, fun to see and hear running. I have a much smaller hit and miss that was sold under the Montgomery Ward's label. So far I haven't been able to get a spark so it's not running.Thanks for the comment, Mark!

[@markattardo]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring Sounds like a fun project. Good luck!

[@wallyfirkins1664]

Fascinating! Thank you for the education.

[@chilrobberto1]

Thank you for sharing this. Definitely sparked my interest in Hit and Miss engines. Too bad I can't get my hands on one here in The Netherlands

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

They are not terribly hard to come by here in the States. I bought one for $100 that is not in running condition. I need to get the magneto working as there is no spark. Mine is a Sattley brand one and one half HP. I hope you can find one sometime. Thanks for the comment!

[@chilrobberto1]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring $100 seems like a steal!! Great project, have fun getting it running!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@chilrobberto1 Hopefully I will get it going this summer. I have two more video you might enjoy watching. 'Hit and miss engine shop with Ron Morefield' and Hit and miss engines with Ken'

[@XORBob]

Very cool video. I love the Laws Museum.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

We love it, too. We spent two days going through it last year. I have a video of the museum in general if you happen to be interested in that. The price of admission is right, too. Thanks for watching and commenting, Bob!

[@MrSouthwestplumber]

i was there and the guys there were great with my kids showed them so much

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Yes, they are all very knowledgeable and nice there. I have a video covering a good part of the museum on my channel if you are interested. Thanks for watching, Edward!

[@whorton4]

Back in the 60's and as late as the 70's if you lived in the country, you could often hear these things making their strange calamity of noise while driving pump jacks. . . Still amazing technology for the time.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Definitely a recognizable sound that they make and I'm sure nostalgic for someone like you that has heard them on the job. Thanks for the comment!

[@whorton4]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring Yes sir, most definitely! I remember thinking at that time, that it was strange to leave a piece of equipment running with no one around! (I was still pretty young and naive at the time.) I do lament the loss of such things of that era (and before) that have totally vanished from the landscape. Da#ned progress and electric motors! The lights and conveniences of today are still pretty hard to beat!

[@marcijunebug]

Fantastic video! Thanks for filming and sharing!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks, Marci! I'm glad that you enjoyed it. If you are ever near Bishop, California you should try and make a visit to the Laws Museum.

[@oldbaldwiseone]

I have seen one of these engines with fly wheel over twelve feet in diameter. That was in the 60's. I would have liked to take it home...

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That was a big one, Pat. You would need a small army and a big trailer to get that home. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@MichaudDaniel]

Maybe we'll need them again in the uncertain future. Who know? Thank you for that captivating video.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Maybe, they do see like they are bullet proof.

[@abpccpba]

Thank for your dedication to our past. :- )))

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thank you on Ron's behalf, Paul.

[@gutsngorrrr]

These engines are just amazing and such a lovely thing to watch work.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

They certainly are, and fun to listen to as well. They have a nice rhythm to them. Thanks for the comment, Mark!

[@craneoperator4]

that is awesome...great to see it still works

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Yes, still working well. Thanks for watching!

[@Jason4Star]

Thank you for sharing this. This is really cool.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

You're welcome. The old engines are amazing to watch and hear. I have a small one I'm trying to get running now. Thanks for the comment, Jason!

[@Jason4Star]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring Thank you. The only time I get to see a hit and miss engine is at the county fair and/or the regional state fair. I am like the guy in the video in that I will stand there and watch for hours until I get dragged away.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That was a fun story that Ron told about that.

[@franciscobustamante546]

¡¡WOW!! THAT'S INTERESTING SHOW, LOVE IT!! VERY NIT!! ✅

[@alessandrovattolo592]

Excellent, great video. 👍

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for watching, Alessandro!

[@flyaccelerated]

The phrase "balls to the wall" originated with ww2 era aircraft which had balls on the throttle. push those to the firewall and you had "balls to the wall"! Love the video!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That is what I have come to understand about the balls to the wall phrase. The 'balls out' was a similar phrase originating from the ball type governor, both meaning the engine was running at full power. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@loganavery4951]

Also, pushing the envelope comes from the same thing. An Envelope in aviation is the term we use for the physical/structural limitations if an aircraft. It's the safe highs and lows of speed, altitude, engine power, and maneuverability. It has to do with test pilots pushing an aircraft to its limitations and trying to see how much further you can go.

[@CATech1138]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring balls out is when running at max rpm...the flying ball governor was designed to keep engine speed consistant while allowing engine load to vary

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@CATech1138 Thank you, Charles!

[@lowellmiller6663]

The previous version of "pedal to the metal".

[@twistedyogert]

I read somewhere that "balls to the wall" actually originated from aircraft controls. In some older aircraft the throttle control had a ball at the top of the stalk. When the throttle was on full, the balls would be close to or touching the instrument panel. "Balls out", originated with centrifugal governors.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

You are absolutely correct on both counts. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@OzziesOddities]

The foot cranking part scared me a little but it sure worked like a charm. These old things just want to keep running forever.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That's the only way you can turn the engine over to start it. They will definitely run for a long time. Thanks, Ozzie!

[@jimkaipanen6577]

I just came across your videos,too bad you don't have a hot tube igniting engine, I have a 15 hp. Bessemer hot tube easy start and I love it..Great video.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks, Jim. I think Ron mentions the hot tube ignition during our visit with him but I don't remember if that part made it into this video. I haven't watched it for a while. Thanks for the comment!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Yeah, he talks about hot tube ignition and slide valve ignition.

[@happydog4929]

Love it!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@happydog4929 Glad that you like the big engine. Thanks for the comment!👍😁

[@MrLaTEchno]

One of the World-wonders...in this world. 'Today's people don't see it's wonder anymore ....they see the now ....I want it all....not knowing the why and where it came from.....sad to see but the truth.It's not a shame to tell our kids the why....and specially the how it all came to be.All the Hero's [Bell,Tesla,...etc] are forgotten......think about it.Those hero's made our World. THNXS for this video it give me today a Big smile.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for your thoughtful comment and your appreciation of this video and what it represents. I agree that a lot of the great innovators are not remembered or appreciated by today's people. I'm happy that you got a smile out of this!

[@JerryDLTN]

14:40 I read in the minutes of my Masons lodge that in ~1922 or 1926, they created a committee to discuss whether or not to install electricity in the lodge.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for that.

[@almontepaolilli4909]

Love these engines.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Glad you like them, Almonte. Thanks for watching!

[@gotsteem]

Just wonderful. Edison, eat your heart out.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Glad that you like it and it was pretty good technology for the day. Thanks for watching!

[@be1121]

This is an Awesome video. I Have a John Deere 1.5 horse.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks, Brett. I have a 1.5 HP Sattler that was sold by Montgomery Wards. I can't seem to get the Wico magneto to work. I think it needs a new capacitor.

[@be1121]

I’m pretty green on working on them. This was my granddads and was passed down to me, he knew it inside and out. My plan is to power a corn grinder with it.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Me too. I haven't spent a lot of time on it yet.

[@jixxer6001983]

I work at Fairbanks. You should see the engines we build now!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That's great. Where are you located?

[@robquinton9835]

great vid....

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks, Rob. We appreciate it!

[@HikeCamp]

Fascinating ! 👍👍😀

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for watching, Max. We really enjoyed talking with Ron and seeing his engine run.

[@lowellmiller6663]

Awesome, now I understand "flat out".

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for watching and commenting, Lo.

[@richardburmeister5776]

Fascinating. Thank you.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Glad that you liked it, Richard. Thanks for the comment!

[@RENunez-sd6ov]

That was great!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks, Ren!

[@I8ITSK8N]

I'm in total awe watching this! I love these old gas and steam engines! Especially when they are still in use! In this case still in a factory running other machines. Just awesome!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

They are definitely fun to watch and hear. I'm glad that you enjoyed the video, Jerry. Thanks for watching!

[@234dilligaf]

Absolutely awesome!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Glad that you like it!

[@VivianaBunea]

Very nice video and the first like from me!!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks, Viviana!

[@dagger3k]

I work at a old power plant and we have a dla Fairbanks morse 10 cylinder and we have a log book that shows it ran for 368 days non stop old things can be much better than new

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That sounds like a tough engine. Have you ever seen it run? Thanks for the comment!

[@jiml4782]

i really enjoy watching these run ,i have to be drug away

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Yes, watching and listening to them run is fun.

[@pauljohansson7697]

I just subscribed to your channel and hello from New Hampshire.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thank you, Paul! Hello to you from central Oregon.

[@billhillyer334]

I have a three hp Fairbanks Morse water cooled engine so cool...

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Fun to have to play around with, as long as you don't have to lift it. Thanks for the comment, Bill.

[@kenneth6731]

How big of a generator head could you put on this? 5kW?

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That's a good question and one I don't know the answer to, Kenneth. If I see Ron this year I will ask him. Thanks for the comment.

[@jgren4048]

You could put a 10kw on it, but you would only get about 8kw max output

[@jgren4048]

You could put a 10kw on it, but you would only get about 8kw max output

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@jgren4048 Thanks, JG.

[@anythingoldmechanical]

That could do with a really nice restoration. She deserves it.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for watching and commenting!👍😊

[@melkiorwiseman5234]

The description of the "ignition tube" reminds me of an old story about even older times. It was one of the tales of "Billy Bunter" written by "Frank Richards" (one of several pen names used by the extremely prolific writer, Charles Hamilton). The basic story is about a walking holiday in which some boys from the same school hired an ancient motor-tricycle to haul around their camping equipment and supplies. They continually had trouble getting it running because of the primitive ignition tube system, and on top of that there was some shady character continually hanging around who seemed to have a strange interest in the motor-trike. Of course, as such adventure stories always turn out, the "twist" is eventually revealed to be that the ignition tube on the trike is made out of something which, at the time of manufacture, was just an unusually high-temperature tolerant metal... platinum. :) The attempted thief had figured it out and was trying to steal the ignition tube to sell. Of course once the boys find out, they return the trike and let the owner know that he's got something valuable, because they're Incurably Honest™ :)

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks for the interesting comment about what sounds like a good book and story. Who would have guessed that an ignition tube on an engine could be fodder for the plot twist of a book. Ron did say the ignition tubes were troublesome. Thanks, Melkior!

[@melkiorwiseman5234]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring Thanks. I'm not sure the story would be available anywhere now, since it was only ever published in one of two magazines intended for school-age boys, either the "Magnet" or the "Gem" which were both compilations of tales with some illustrations. The tales were highly "formulaic" with each character having a predictable set of responses to each situation, unless the plot demanded something different, in which case a halfway-plausible excuse would come up to explain the temporary change in personality. I think I still have many of the magazines stowed away in a wardrobe somewhere, if silverfish haven't devoured them by now.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@melkiorwiseman5234 Interesting. I haven't heard of the magazines you mentioned. Maybe I'll try and look them up sometime.

[@melkiorwiseman5234]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring I'm quite certain they're no longer published, but it's possible someone may have mentioned them in an online article. There's a TVTropes page for Billy Bunter and Frank Richards/Charles Hamilton but of neccessity, it's not very extensive and last I knew, it didn't mention the two magazines, only the so-called Billy Bunter Books. Happy hunting.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@melkiorwiseman5234 Thanks for the information!

[@scottrussell8139]

cool vid

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks, Scott! I appreciate it.

[@michaelschuler7397]

Does that make everlasting gob stoppers

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Yes, this is Willy Wonka's secret weapon.

[@こじまみのる]

5:30くらいのエンジンってクランク回転でMAX何rpmくらい回るのかな?100rpm回る? このエンジン１基でこの工場一棟動かしてたんだね。

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

I believe the maximum RPM for an engine this size is around 200. The smaller engines of this type would run at higher RPM up to 600. Thanks for the comment!

[@TBI-Firefighter-451]

0:15 I worked for US Forest Service here in Oregon and I know where there is one just like this out in the Deep Woods of Oregon sitting all by it self that nobody knows about, we had a Forest Fire there last summer so the Babbitt Bearings are probably melted out but I bet she's still there, if T and J ever comes to Oregon I'd Draw them a Map for another Fun Exploring Video.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

We live south of Bend in Central Oregon during the summer. Too bad that the fire might have gotten it. I have a 1&1/2 HP Sattley hit and miss engine that I've been trying to get running. So far no luck getting spark out of the magneto. You can email us anytime if you have suggestions for mine explores, hikes or whatever else you'd like to talk about. [e-mail]

[@tylerfrankel5374]

I love these engines but does anyone know why they were used after the advent of multi-cylinder or even single cylinder engines with standard valve systems? The model Ts of the time were running with inline 4 flatheads which seem to be more power dense and efficient.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

That's a good question that I don’t really know the answer to. I'm guessing part of it is that the technology to make the hit and miss was already there, with many different manufacturers, so naturally it takes some time to switch over to more modern engines. I'm also guessing that there is a difference in performance for certain tasks, between the hit and miss and more modern engines, like the amount of torque that's necessary. I know once those big flywheels get moving it's hard to stop them. Heavy tasks like pumping water, generating electricity and cutting wood were popular uses for these engines. Maybe someone that knows more than me about this will chime in. Thanks, Tyler!

[@melchristian3638]

Happy new year

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Happy New Year, Mel!

[@raybruneau4726]

Thanks

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

You're welcome, Ray!

[@Mercmad]

I watch a lot of those vids about abandoned mines in the USA and i would imagine the miners would have used a small stamping mill like this to process their ore in the back country. If the stamper was actually stamping it would be deafening.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Yes, this one is just a partially working mill so no real stamping going on. I hope you will watch some of our mine exploration videos. If you click on my playlist tab you will find a mine exploration playlist of 30+. Thanks for watching!

[@jiml4782]

i would love to have one they should make them now ,how much fuel do they use

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

The amount of fuel the engine uses depends on the load put on them. They are probably not as fuel efficient as a modern engine because of the way the fuel mixer works. You can still find them for sale. I just bought a 1 1/2 HP hit and miss about a month ago. Thanks for watching and commenting, Jim.

[@jiml4782]

I really like the sound of them,We went to a big country fair ,I went to the sound, the kids wanted to go on rides after a while, I could have stayed, but thought I better go with them, DANG IT

[@epssty]

Iam looking for a 36 inch wheel

[@mietekmietek1112]

Dzień dobry Wspaniała maszyna. Piszę do Pana z Polski w Europie. Od kilku dni fascynują mnie stare silniki. U mnie jest prawie północ a ja oglądam twój film. Czy istniały podobne silniki diesel? Takie z gorącą gruszką z przodu? Niestety we wschodniej części Europy bardzo trudno spotkać podobne silniki. Życzę Ci dużo zdrowia.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Hello Mietek. Thanks for the comment all the way from Poland. These old engines will run on many different fuels including diesel. They are not technically diesel engines though. I'm sorry that you can't get a smaller engine like this where you live. I have a small one at my home, but I can't manage to get spark from the magneto to make it run. I wish you good health as well!

[@mietekmietek1112]

Bardzo dziękuję za odpowiedź. Widzę że odpowiadasz na wszystkie komentarze. Bardzo mi się to podoba. To musi zajmować dużo czasu. Powiedz proszę ile dolarów może kosztować w USA taki działający semidiesel O mocy około 10 koni mechanicznych. Chodzi mi o realną cenę, nie okazyjna oraz nie super wygórowana. Pozdrawiam serdecznie.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@mietekmietek1112 Around $630. www.amazon.com/TBvechi-Engine-Diesel-Cylinder-Machine/dp/B07Y4RR726/ref=asc_df_B07Y4RR726/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475858389483&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13743659472022674891&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033169&hvtargid=pla-1163753909705&psc=1

[@gsolha1265]

Great video Your video is interesting and brilliant I really enjoyed watching it Thanks so much for sharing Thumbs up 👍👍👍 Happy New week friendly greetings solha

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Thanks and Happy New week to you.

[@smolville]

Our newspaper runs news from 100 yrs ago and 125 yrs ago. They pointed out that there was a coal shortage which affected electricity production in neighboring communities 100 yrs ago. It stated that our community burned oil so it wasn't effected although the schools were still heated by coal.

[@sparkywatts3072]

fascinating!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

Glad that you like it, Sparky!

[@TECHNOP.V.A.]

Wow! Cool!

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

😃👍👍

[@rosewhite---]

I'd like ot know why these engines always have piston exposed at end of stroke! It's not just to save a little wight of iron?

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

I don't know but I assume there is a good reason. Maybe someone else here knows. Thanks for watching, Rose.

[@rosewhite---]

@@TomandJulieMineExploring Nearly sixty years ago I worked in textile mills and many still had various big gas engines but no-one could say why piston came out. I wondered if it was to ensure good oiling while starting?

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

@@rosewhite--- That very well could be, Rose. I do remember them inspecting the edge of the piston and they noticed a small spot that appeared dry(no oil) and they increased the oiler output a bit.

[@epssty]

I am looking for a 36 inch wheel

[@jimkaipanen6577]

Thank your reply, I know he mentioned hot tube station but I only said no hot tube in there display ,sorry for how I worded it.

[@TomandJulieMineExploring]

He might have one around his shop, I wouldn't be surprised.