RWBY Volume 7 Episode 9 Reaction

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@LordAerono
@LordAerono 3 ай бұрын
So, I've seen the point made somewhere that the Schnee family (minus Jacques, obviously) depicts the four responses to trauma (Wiess is Fight, Winter is Flight, Willow is Freeze, and Whitley is Fawn), and I wanted to take a moment to comment on Whitley, specifically, since now I can say all of this without spoilers. Weiss stated that her home life fell apart on her eighth birthday, when Jacques admitted to Willow that he had never loved her. It's not clear how far apart the Schnee children are in age, but Whitley seems to be at least a couple of years younger than Weiss, meaning that he was probably 5-6 when things devolved, and possibly even younger. Worse, he was the only member of the family with no support against their father. Winter seems to have ducked out a quickly as possible, and she would have been the most mature anyway as the oldest. Weiss was enamored with her big sister, and probably used thoughts of following in Winter's footsteps to sustain herself, while Willow was falling apart and in no shape to help anyone. All that together means that from a young age, Whitley was trapped. He had no support, no help, no friends, while his father applied intense pressure on him to be perfect. So Whitley did what he was told. He became the perfect heir, the son his father wanted. And as long as he did, he had some semblance of affection. It was the affection given to a useful tool, but it was more than he was getting from anywhere else, so he likely latched on to it. Being the perfect son WAS his identity. A lot of people, understandably, didn't like Whitley due to his actions in volume 4, but look at it from his perspective. After so long being the perfect son, being what his father wanted, being who he needed to be to get rewarded, his runaway sister comes home and looks to supplant him, despite clearly not being what his father wanted. And if she takes his place, he will have NOTHING, not even an identity. Is it really any wonder that he tricked Weiss into exposing herself as an unsuitable heir? I don't think Whitley actually enjoys being the dutiful son, but it's a role he has adopted for his own mental health, and I think that his reaction to Jacques' arrest shows this pretty clearly. Note that for all Jacques' certainty that Whitley will get him out of this, Whitley is not shown to be outraged by his father's fate, or calmly assuming control of the company and taking action to save Jacques, but rather he's listless, nervous, uncertain who he is or what to do without the father who has defined him for so long.
@othergrimm6592
@othergrimm6592 3 ай бұрын
Tenth birthday, not eighth. But yeah, a lot of people don't have enough sympathy for Whitley. Weiss was pretty awful when the series started, and grew to become a better person thanks to being outside of her father's influence. Whitley hasn't had that chance yet.
@ivanteoh930
@ivanteoh930 3 ай бұрын
Yeah despite all that Weiss had no problem pointing her weapon at him
@Omegafire17
@Omegafire17 3 ай бұрын
@@ivanteoh930 That was simply her doing what she has to, to get him to move quickly since talking wasn't going to work and thus waste time that they don't have. Doesn't mean she doesn't still hold affection for him, as they're not always mutually exclusive - you can be angry with a parent/sibling over stuff while still loving them, after all We as human beings don't, and shouldn't, only feel one side of emotion toward people by default. That kind of outlook is flawed in-of-itself imho
@austin-1993
@austin-1993 3 ай бұрын
​@@Omegafire17 And continuing to care about someone that has wronged you time and time again is also a flawed concept
@austin-1993
@austin-1993 3 ай бұрын
I have never heard of anyone fawning over trauma. But then again it sounds so stupid it has to be real.
@lhhOriginalGrey
@lhhOriginalGrey 3 ай бұрын
I love the little "can I do that?" 🤣🤣
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that was perfect delivery 😂
@daysand123
@daysand123 3 ай бұрын
Shes probably been wanting a one way "fuck you go to jail" like that for a long time.
@WaveK89
@WaveK89 3 ай бұрын
I just noticed during this video that Weiss used her glyphs to keep everyone grounded in the airship. Got to love her quick thinking to immediately use that throughout the series.
@Hawk_of_Battle
@Hawk_of_Battle 3 ай бұрын
With how many vehicles this team has crashed, it pretty much should be second nature by now. They have the worst luck with airships and trains.
@BGTitanAvatar
@BGTitanAvatar 3 ай бұрын
What’s so good is that the Council Members bring up excellent points. James shouldn’t have two seats in the council, no one should. He has been running all over their procedures. There should have been more open communication, if not the whole truth, then at least something to help the rest of the council understand the severity. “What people intend and what they do aren’t always the same.” That really sums up James here in this volume. Oh, and look! There’s that giant hole in the wall that Ironwood could have let them fix before he took all the materials for Amity. But hey, who cares about Mantle, right? It’s just a few city blocks. And again, he didn’t have the code updated in Mantle, even knowing someone had hacked his drones back at Beacon, which gave Watts an in to some of their systems! Like, I know that Amity would be an ultimate good but holy shit dude fix your own place first.
@VelCroweBar
@VelCroweBar 8 күн бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately that didn't help much since one recently elected councilman (with one seat on the council) basically screwed them all by giving his credentials to Salem's forces, but I agree, bro should have just fixed the wall and Robyn wouldn't have been as much of a pain probably.
@wootcat
@wootcat 3 ай бұрын
I know our frame of reference is Ozpin, but realize that Ozpin is not the original. Ozma was. It's also pretty clear that Ozma's personality is different from Ozpin's. Don't look at it as Ozpin taking over, because, I would suspect that Ozpin was similar to who he was before merging with the previous host. Yes, Oscar won't be the same person he was, but he also won't be entirely gone.
@Hawk_of_Battle
@Hawk_of_Battle 3 ай бұрын
"Weiss best girl." Always has been.
@josefk3
@josefk3 3 ай бұрын
No one ever notices that at 11:00 Ironwood literally walks himself into a corner.
@TMAC_burninator
@TMAC_burninator 3 ай бұрын
It's not a takeover, it's a merging of Oz and Oscar's souls. Weiss is best girl. The knight she summoned is from her first trailer, which canonically, her father made her fight before allowing her to go to Beacon.
@beo3828
@beo3828 3 ай бұрын
I mean he's already been told that at some point he won't even notice the difference. Ozpin going "silent" was probably just the next step on the merge. We don't really have anything to compare if this time is different or not, maybe this is just how it always goes. The difference this time is that Oscar has a different environment, so the secretive tendencies of Ozpin are being countered.
@valathor95
@valathor95 3 ай бұрын
I don’t believe him going silent always happens, that was a deliberate choice he made.
@JJR93
@JJR93 3 ай бұрын
Neo used a similar disguise during the Vytal Festival as one of her team's combatants in the first round....she only revealed her heterochromia very briefly, when leering at an opponent before kicking him in the face.
@thetntraider
@thetntraider 3 ай бұрын
Happy birthday, Monty. I hope you can see your dream still lives on to entertain people.
@lorenzoteague8445
@lorenzoteague8445 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the reminder....... Happy birthday, Monty!! 🫡
@effortlessfury
@effortlessfury 3 ай бұрын
The "issue" with the blending is that we ARE our memories. I think it is this blending idea, but that's still a concern. Simply by having access to those memories, you are now the person with those memories. Oscar will become whoever the person is that has both his own memories and Ozpin's memories. It's a scary proposition, but I think that's why this process of eternal life is preferable to Salem's, in the long run. It ensures that a new, young person always has a chance to make decisions with the experience of the eternal being, rather than the eternal being becoming jaded alongside their old age.
@Osma777
@Osma777 3 ай бұрын
"No more surprises, ok? I'm not sure I could take it." That's not foreshadowing at all.
@areswilliams
@areswilliams 2 ай бұрын
The thing is Whitley is a kid and if willow and Jacque got divorced who do you think would have the most favor especially when it comes to custody? Jacque. He would get custody over her because she’s a known alcoholic and the entirety of the schnee dynasty is in Jacque’s control so willow would be walking away with nothing IF she could walk away. Her father basically bargained her to Jacque it was a business marriage that most likely had a contract involved so she can’t leave of her own volition. She’s basically a prisoner Weiss was too which is why she had to escape
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 2 ай бұрын
But she also could’ve…stopped drinking and done action a long time ago. Now it’s far too late. You’re right. And it’s easy to say just walk away, but when people are in an abusive relationship it’s hard for them to see until it’s too late. Or they are drawn to that relationship for various reasons or they just are part of an arranged marriage. Feel bad for her 😢
@seedfan8548
@seedfan8548 3 ай бұрын
Treason is a higher crime than accessory to murder.
@DigiCount
@DigiCount 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that was a bit wonky but it is what it is
@seedfan8548
@seedfan8548 3 ай бұрын
@@DigiCount Unfortunately, yes.
@Emerald-t7k
@Emerald-t7k Ай бұрын
multiple charges tend to get punished harsher than single ones
@Emerald-t7k
@Emerald-t7k Ай бұрын
multiple charges tend to get punished harsher than single ones
@WingManFang1
@WingManFang1 3 ай бұрын
I said from day one Weiss was best girl, well her and Blake, but Weiss especially, sure she had her racist arc and she learned from her mistakes and from the history and point of view of people on both sides of the conflict that was involved. Now she’s one of the strongest members of the team.❤
@ISAFMobius18
@ISAFMobius18 2 ай бұрын
Fun Facts Fact 1: The episode title refers to a phrase which means "to explain why and how the world works." Fact 2: Jaune almost vomiting on the airship is a callback to his debut in "Ruby Rose". Fact 3: The AK-200s that the Grimm were able to overwhelm in only a few seconds were meant to represent that Atlas wouldn't provide them with much defense against Grimm because they don't care enough. Fact 4: The Teryx's first appearance is a callback to Jurassic Park. Fact 5: It was difficult to keep shots in the dining room interesting. Fact 6: Every storyline was coming together in this episode, and it's tricky to make a setup episode like this not seem like filler. Fact 7: Throughout volume 7, they made sure to have an orange glow represent the heating in Mantle since the writers knew it would be turned off in Cordially Invited. Fact 8: Ruby and Oscar's awkward interaction came from them both 'riding the high' of the moment when it seems like they each have great plans that will go well. Fact 9: The writers struggled with where to put the reveal that the waitress was actually Neo.
@j.w.sraptorsquad982
@j.w.sraptorsquad982 3 ай бұрын
am I the only one who freaked out over the new Grimm in this volume? Granted, it might be due to my lifelong obsession with Dinosaurs, but my brain was not prepared for the concept of 'Sabretooth Grimm?!' in episode 1, then in this episode it was 'MAMMOTH GRIMM!!?' on repeat for a while after, though to my self-shame, I had to look up the flying creature I assumed was some kind of Dragon to realise it was a fusion of Therapod/carnivorous Dinosaur (specifically a kind of Dromaeosaur/raptor) with Pterosaur wings, so a little embarrassed about that, and I would assume the centipedes were based on the giant millipede from the Carboniferous Period, Arthropleura that little Sherlock quip could be considered ironic since, by my understanding, Arthur Watts was based on Holmes's partner, Dr John Watson, and his first name perhaps a nod to the author of the Sherlock Holmes books, Arthur Conan Doyle, who also wrote The Lost World (again, Dinosaurs) could it be considered a shade hypocritical of Ironwood to criticise Jacques of not considering what Watts would do with his clearance to Atlas's network, since, for all his fixation on keeping Atlas safe, he never bothered updating the code in Mantle, which gave Watts the opening to cause problems and avoid detection in the first place, as he did with the code in the city of Atlas? Just seems like a bit of an oversight to me
@nathanielreik6617
@nathanielreik6617 3 ай бұрын
Not disagreeing with what you've said but pointing out that they've seemingly consistently been focused on Atlas more than Mantle. Atlas has nice weather (it seems), has sunlight, is a lot safer from grimm, has more up to date technology; while Mantle doesn't really get the sun due to Atlas hovering over them, is reliant of heaters so they don't freeze, and has a wall that even disregarding the hole seems considerably weaker than needed. And let's not forget where the resources for Amity have been taken from. Not updating the system is just one thing in a list of ways where they have consistently prioritized Atlas and not worried much about Mantle.
@j.w.sraptorsquad982
@j.w.sraptorsquad982 3 ай бұрын
@@nathanielreik6617 exactly my thinking, just noting that it seems to be a particularly big slipup in Ironwood's paranoia against an enemy that easily hacked all his tech before, during the Fall of Beacon
@millieboon
@millieboon 3 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for the brother , Yh he’s a bit of a knob but just as willow said he was left alone he’s at the ages where he would want to impress and is very impressionable , both his older sisters left and his mum is non existent, he from what we had seen doesn’t have the semblance and he may feel left out and the only one he has is his dad so no wonder her has latched on to him and became resentful of his sisters
@valathor95
@valathor95 3 ай бұрын
“Can I do that?”
@nightdevil6085
@nightdevil6085 3 ай бұрын
Love you guys
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 3 ай бұрын
🤗
@AltimaMantoid
@AltimaMantoid 3 ай бұрын
I hope you didn't plan on getting off the Rollercoaster anytime soon, because from this point on, it's not going to stop. Strap in tight.
@lorenzoteague8445
@lorenzoteague8445 3 ай бұрын
I loved the reactions of Weiss finally taking down Clip-tie Daddy!!! 🤣🤣🤣 You can tell she likes a good mystery and got to live out a Sherlock Holmes moment. But, the damage that's been done.... Dr. Watts has gained the way to throw Mantle into total chaos!! And now, Cinder & Neo has popped up!! Well, crap...... Things are gonna get wild next chapter. See you then, Ken & Beth. 🫡🌹❄️🖤🔥
@Selisu1
@Selisu1 3 ай бұрын
Just a happy observation. Every time Penny comes on in the opening, Ken smiles. Because, well, it's Penny.
@Cloaker455
@Cloaker455 3 ай бұрын
I’m eating pasta right now.
@Brobuscus101
@Brobuscus101 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Councilman Sleet is voiced by Chad James, who’s famous for voicing Boomstick from Death Battle
@gameslayer3
@gameslayer3 3 ай бұрын
Weiss’s dad’s voice actor does Beerus’s voice too.
@MinisterEvil
@MinisterEvil 3 ай бұрын
But doesn't Emerald have dark red eyes?
@DigiCount
@DigiCount 3 ай бұрын
I sure am enjoying going through Weiss Volume 7 with you guys
@WalterWhite-jz7ct
@WalterWhite-jz7ct 3 ай бұрын
9:07 arguably, the Moment everything fell appart... or he did at least. Can't wait for the next ep when shit hits the Fan ^^ Rens change already happened. He feels overwhelmed with the responsibility suddenly thrusted upon him, thinking they were not ready to be full Hunters and falling in line to the current highest Voice of Authority... Ironwood. This will come up in one of my favourite eps so im not saying more here ("Yeah... Ruby")
@JJR93
@JJR93 3 ай бұрын
Love the little #Rosegarden moment in this episode.....it's a cute ship
@morlock2012
@morlock2012 3 ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of Jacques comeuppance here. Deserved, of course, but given he spent an unknown amount of time positioning himself to take over the SDC, and then a decade or more at least maintaining it's position against competition, I was expecting a bit more here. Some prepared plausible denyability, at least an attempt to create cut-outs between Watts and himself, some indication that he wasn't so dumb as to hand over very high level, private access keys to a disgraced genius *claiming* to only want to attack Ironwood. That should have 'too good to be true' written all over it, and a half-decent manipulator would see that. But it is satisfying to see Weiss take him down, won't deny that.
@KitsyX
@KitsyX 3 ай бұрын
I mean, if he was friendly with Watts before, he might not expect any particularly bad results… He also doesn’t know Watts has teamed up with Salem, plus the lengths he was willing to go to for revenge… And as smart as Jacques is, he’s also greedy and arrogant… He didn’t have any clue that Willow had planted those hidden cameras either… He didn’t think he needed deniability because he didn’t think anyone else would know anything…
@liss_Th
@liss_Th 3 ай бұрын
nice character development is coming 🚬🗿
@madhavmandava
@madhavmandava 3 ай бұрын
do you think what Jauq got was instant Karma and Justice...but how do you think this will effect Whitely for now
@CampaignerSC
@CampaignerSC 3 ай бұрын
6:08 Reaction to the murderous male villains. 17:24 Reaction to the murderous female villains. 😂
@sparkierss3189
@sparkierss3189 3 ай бұрын
Difference is that cinders been getting g her ass handed to her consistently- watts on the other hand has been pretty successful
@CampaignerSC
@CampaignerSC 3 ай бұрын
@@sparkierss3189 She's literally a school shooter.
@KitsyX
@KitsyX 3 ай бұрын
@@sparkierss3189 To be fair though, he hasn’t been as directly involved yet… Cinder has had more chance to fail… And Cinder did pretty well until the end of volume 3… But yeah, recently Cinder has been taking a few Ls and Watts is doing really well right now.
@lorenzoteague8445
@lorenzoteague8445 3 ай бұрын
Add to the difference that Atlas is Dr. Watt's hometown..... He has all the advantages of that as opposed to Cinder in this volume. She's working at the ground level, having to try to redeem herself to Salem. Having Neo as a partner is her only advantage here.
@DraZoX19
@DraZoX19 3 ай бұрын
Please React to Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Launch Trailer
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 3 ай бұрын
We will 😅
@DraZoX19
@DraZoX19 3 ай бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 best trailer ever i love that 👌👌
@goddesssalem4842
@goddesssalem4842 3 ай бұрын
My queen Salem is about to rip them a new one hehehehe 😂. So much for hope
@ДавидДмитриев-ц4е
@ДавидДмитриев-ц4е 3 ай бұрын
Good reaction 🙂👍 Please, could you make a reaction to a cartoon like Angel's friends? (Cartoon about love if anything)
@millieboon
@millieboon 3 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for the brother , Yh he’s a bit of a knob but just as willow said he was left alone he’s at the ages where he would want to impress and is very impressionable , both his older sisters left and his mum is non existent, he from what we had seen doesn’t have the semblance and he may feel left out and the only one he has is his dad so no wonder her has latched on to him and became resentful of his sisters
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